@@PartyintheAM no. The X01 is designed to sit more inboard, have more chain wrap around and a shorter titanium cage for more ground clearance and durability. It is designed to be protected against crashes. The trade off of these crash-proof features is noisier drive train and slightly tougher shifting in higher gears.
Just bought the GX model for my ebike, wow what a complete difference to riding ! It’s a total no brainer, if you have £ $ € go for it you won’t regret it folks ……..
I have both the GX and the X01 AXS. I can confirm that the X01 AXS is noticeably more noisy and rougher shifting than the GX. The X01 AXS has a shorter cage and more chain wrap around the cassette. This causes more friction on the cassette, resulting in more noise and more resistance shifting. I upgraded from the GX to X01 for the weight advantage. But after the installation and countless hours fine tuning the X01, I realize that X01 is noisier and rougher to shift. I did a little more digging and found that the X01 has more chain wrap and shorter cage, resulting in more friction. It is also more inboard than the GX, meaning that it is very tight in the higher gears, causing it to run a little rougher. If I could do this again, I would get the XX1. The X01 is targeted at enduro riders who don’t care about noise and refinement.
Have all 3, XX1, X01 and since Monday GX. They work the same, tested the GX on 5 days ride with total of 7500 m of vertical climbing, its fantastic like the other AXS
Owned GX for a year. Bought XX1 today. Weight difference is negligible. The motor sounds different on the upshifts to easy gear. The fit and finish are clearly nicer on the XX1. Hopefully the carbon outer cage will hold up against flying debris. Swapped out the XX1 controller’s silver mounting piece for the GX’s all black. Selling GX soon. Oh yeah, replaced titanium hardware with oil slick Better Bolts. Bike was full GX drivetrain a year ago. Slowly upgraded to full XX1 today. However chainring is Absolute Black. I ride XC.
Exactly. You might notice it if you are holding both in your hand at the same time, but when pedaling I don't think anyone is going to say "my bike feels 100g heavier today after I swapped out my RD." Good video though. Short and to the point.
Hi team, nice video, quick snappy and to the point, I've been shopping around here in New Zealand... and so far I got the most info out of your video, Cheers
My LBS upgraded my SX derailleur for a GX. The SX was crap. It had maybe 50 miles on it, but it was never right to begin with. I’ve had Walmart bikes that shifted better. The derailleur got caught in the spokes or dropped the chain off both ends of the cassette. It did it 4 times while I was at the bike shop while they were trying to figure it out. There was a lot of slop in the cage when the chain was removed.
3 years ago I was that dude saying I don't need more batteries in my life, since then I had 2 twelve speed bike, XT & TRP Tr12, geez those aren't low end components yet I spent too much time adjusting and changing cables... Im ready 😂🎉
I would run XX1. I have XX1 cable setup on my Evil Wreckoning and have had no issues with durability and have no concerns. So if you can afford the extra difference in $$$, just go XX1! Although to be fair the GX is an excellent option for value! And let’s be honest, most of us won’t notice them grams even though we chase it 😂 I want XX1 also because of the aesthetics, and I like carbon, and I like Ti 😉
you're gonna be waiting a while for shimano to release an 'affordable' wireless groupset, there's only been talk of them releasing an XT version and even that has been extremely hush hush.
I love these shimano replies as if they'll 1) have a wireless setup out soon and 2) it'll be cheap. Look how long it took AXS to go from over $2k down to $600, and you're going to sit around how long for Shimano to release an unknown wireless groupset? And then sit around how much longer for it to be affordable? Right...
GX AXS install next week. If the servo motor is driving the shifting, how would the GX be less snappy? And over what time interval? I don't see it. 🤷♂️
@@Andy-co6pn But is it going to make it less "Snappy." Not saying Mike is wrong. Just asking for the logic of how and if there will be a material difference.
amazing and nice tech.. but for some reasons i think i will stay on mech. all you have to do is use it anytime without worries for low battery or forget to charge before the ride..
Is the XX1 really less durable than the X01? I got a good deal on the XX1 and went for it, although I mainly ride enduro ... Should I have gone for the X01?
Theoretically, yes. XX1 has a carbon cage (like XTR). X01 has alloy stuff I believe (like Deore XT). I'd say you should be just fine, just depends if you would rather have a bent or possibly broken derailleur cage if you have a rock strike (carbon is less likely to have problems, but if it does, it's worse). I'd say don't worry about it. If/when you need a new derailleur get what you want. X01 would be my vote tho. Btw Brandon Semenuk used an XX1 derailleur for Rampage.
so the xx1 axs uses better pulley wheel hardware, bearings, bushings, & pivots. was wonder if could swap these hardware pieces from my xx1 mechanical derailleur to a GX axs? any thoughts?
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My friend runs that setup, XTR cassette and axs shifter/derailleur. Works like a dream. The only thing is he can’t downshift 3 gears at a time like you can on a mechanical shifter but, he’s still happy.
Hey great video, but can you tell me why the gx axs kits seem to ship with the white bgap tool and the xo1 and up axs kits seem to ship with the blue bgap tool? There seems to be confusion as to which tool to use. I was under the impression that the white tool works on all eagle cassettes regardless of which eagle gear you have (50-52) since you clip it onto the 42t gear, but my LBS says you have to use the blue tool for axs.
I'm not the kind of rider who can justify paying hundreds to save 80 grams. My GX 1x with a 10-50 cassette and 40t Rival crank is being installed right now, can't wait to try it out.
No I´m not a Dentist, but I go with XX1. Because its so much lighter to spend the money to save 100grams at the rear derailleur, then saving 100grams on my body 😂
Solid video TY. Question, I have the GX version right now and am considering picking up an XO1 as a BU in case I happen to destroy the GX. On my last outing I banged the derailleur and the part that has the Sram logo "GX" on it seems to be made of plastic and am concerned about durability. Does the XO1 also have a plastic shell or is it made out of metal like the regular analog GX option? If not, I'll just get a BU GX and save the bucks. Thanks!
My dad made a bike with devel super Lexi with fox 32 and an xx1 rd he joined a triathlon with it and got it correct I don’t know if he intended to make a xc the fact he made just so my mom could use her bike I used her bike before his devel came in
That depends which cassette you currently have! These derailleurs work great with SRAM and Shimano wide range 12 speed cassettes, which most modern bikes have these days! -Tor 😎
for aggressive mtb/enduro, only M7000 SLX/M8000 XT. I've removed SRAM 12s from 2 of my bikes, in favour of Shimano 11s - way smaller, durable, without stupid price and I don't hit rocks or stumps on my rides anymore.
Oof. I was liking the sounds of the X01, but not at that price point! Heck, not even at half that price point! It would have to be under $300 for me to even be remotely interested.
I wouldn't run it. I actually just ordered a full xt 11-speed drivetrain, because it's cheaper and lighter than my old eagle. Don't really need more gears tbh
Which would you run? The more affordable GX, the X01 for a lil' weight savings or the bling blam XX1?
You could send me all three to find out
Hello, is it good for a 34 fox to increase it up to 160? (27.5) On the fox site it says it's possible, but is it tough enough?
Allready got my Gx. Simply fantastic
X01 I reckon. I'd feel a bit dirty having a battery on my bike but electronics is where it seems to be heading. Embrace the change.
I would go with the XO1 because of the weight and durability. I am not a very aggressive rider to get the XX1.
Derailer is #1 thing I break on bike, I want xo1, but I should probably go for gx.
gx should be stronger since its heavier, maybe?
@@PartyintheAM no. The X01 is designed to sit more inboard, have more chain wrap around and a shorter titanium cage for more ground clearance and durability. It is designed to be protected against crashes. The trade off of these crash-proof features is noisier drive train and slightly tougher shifting in higher gears.
@@hammertimee777 thought the cage was aluminum?
@@adamneulander It Is
Just bought the GX model for my ebike, wow what a complete difference to riding ! It’s a total no brainer, if you have £ $ € go for it you won’t regret it folks ……..
I have both the GX and the X01 AXS. I can confirm that the X01 AXS is noticeably more noisy and rougher shifting than the GX. The X01 AXS has a shorter cage and more chain wrap around the cassette. This causes more friction on the cassette, resulting in more noise and more resistance shifting. I upgraded from the GX to X01 for the weight advantage. But after the installation and countless hours fine tuning the X01, I realize that X01 is noisier and rougher to shift. I did a little more digging and found that the X01 has more chain wrap and shorter cage, resulting in more friction. It is also more inboard than the GX, meaning that it is very tight in the higher gears, causing it to run a little rougher. If I could do this again, I would get the XX1. The X01 is targeted at enduro riders who don’t care about noise and refinement.
Thanks for the nice description. I really asked myself if i should buy X01 or GX and that’s the answer. Im gonna go with GX and save a few bucks.
I ordered X01 if that is true I wouldn't be happy.
@@beafmilk any updates? I am between the GX1 and X01
Just got a Kona Remote 160 DL, weight is not a problem, i will defenitly go for the GX when my actual GX and NX shifter wear out!
I think that’s a good idea, I will never get any of them but he is best deal for everyday riders
The one I want is definitely the XX1,
the one I actually need is my current cable X01
Have all 3, XX1, X01 and since Monday GX. They work the same, tested the GX on 5 days ride with total of 7500 m of vertical climbing, its fantastic like the other AXS
are you a dentist?
@@saiーツ no, but was selling my teeth for it 😅😅
that's a smart investment!
Feel free to send me one anytime.
Just got the GX. So far i am thrilled.
Owned GX for a year. Bought XX1 today. Weight difference is negligible. The motor sounds different on the upshifts to easy gear. The fit and finish are clearly nicer on the XX1. Hopefully the carbon outer cage will hold up against flying debris. Swapped out the XX1 controller’s silver mounting piece for the GX’s all black. Selling GX soon. Oh yeah, replaced titanium hardware with oil slick Better Bolts.
Bike was full GX drivetrain a year ago. Slowly upgraded to full XX1 today. However chainring is Absolute Black. I ride XC.
Definitely eyeballin' that GX set. I gotta wear out what I have first, though.
Sick stache, Mike
Love the video, but had to chuckle about the 100g difference being called the "one difference you will notice right away"
Exactly. You might notice it if you are holding both in your hand at the same time, but when pedaling I don't think anyone is going to say "my bike feels 100g heavier today after I swapped out my RD." Good video though. Short and to the point.
Hi team, nice video, quick snappy and to the point, I've been shopping around here in New Zealand... and so far I got the most info out of your video, Cheers
My LBS upgraded my SX derailleur for a GX. The SX was crap. It had maybe 50 miles on it, but it was never right to begin with. I’ve had Walmart bikes that shifted better. The derailleur got caught in the spokes or dropped the chain off both ends of the cassette. It did it 4 times while I was at the bike shop while they were trying to figure it out. There was a lot of slop in the cage when the chain was removed.
Great comparison.. Thanks for the video only being 4 minute long. Quick and too the point👍
No sense in tossing in a bunch of jargon if the comparison is truly a simple one.
3 years ago I was that dude saying I don't need more batteries in my life, since then I had 2 twelve speed bike, XT & TRP Tr12, geez those aren't low end components yet I spent too much time adjusting and changing cables...
Im ready 😂🎉
I would run XX1. I have XX1 cable setup on my Evil Wreckoning and have had no issues with durability and have no concerns. So if you can afford the extra difference in $$$, just go XX1!
Although to be fair the GX is an excellent option for value! And let’s be honest, most of us won’t notice them grams even though we chase it 😂
I want XX1 also because of the aesthetics, and I like carbon, and I like Ti 😉
Thanks for the simple, clear video!
Glad we could clear everything up for you! -Tor
Loving my GX AXS
I’ll buy whichever one ever comes in stock. Been trying to buy axs again for 3 months.
Putting GX on my levo as soon as my cassette shows up!! Can't wait.
Get rid of those damn cables!! The future is NOW! -Tor
im waiting for the Shimano version to come out which will be more affordable and durable
I don't know about " durable" though!
@@raheemgahelable yeah, the Shimano one will be cheaper, but idk about more durable. I haven’t had great luck with shimano
you're gonna be waiting a while for shimano to release an 'affordable' wireless groupset, there's only been talk of them releasing an XT version and even that has been extremely hush hush.
wut like their ultegra cranks?
I love these shimano replies as if they'll 1) have a wireless setup out soon and 2) it'll be cheap.
Look how long it took AXS to go from over $2k down to $600, and you're going to sit around how long for Shimano to release an unknown wireless groupset? And then sit around how much longer for it to be affordable?
Right...
My GXAXS kit comes in Tuesday, hopefully it will last a good while.
GX AXS install next week. If the servo motor is driving the shifting, how would the GX be less snappy? And over what time interval? I don't see it. 🤷♂️
Guide pulley bearing quality I guess ??
@@Andy-co6pn But is it going to make it less "Snappy." Not saying Mike is wrong. Just asking for the logic of how and if there will be a material difference.
Same with pivot material and such , will the gx wear faster ? I think they are trying to say that the xo/xx1 will continue to work well.for longer
Got mine absolutely brilliant 😊
amazing and nice tech.. but for some reasons i think i will stay on mech. all you have to do is use it anytime without worries for low battery or forget to charge before the ride..
peace of mind. cheers!
XO1 for XC and Trail and GX for ebike and enduro.
I like the way u explain things Sir. keep it up!
Even the GX model will cost me couple of months of my salary but still I'll go with GX
after hours of studies and thinking, I will pick the X01 for my XC bike
got my XX1 kit with crank, cassette, chain.
Is the XX1 really less durable than the X01? I got a good deal on the XX1 and went for it, although I mainly ride enduro ... Should I have gone for the X01?
Theoretically, yes.
XX1 has a carbon cage (like XTR). X01 has alloy stuff I believe (like Deore XT). I'd say you should be just fine, just depends if you would rather have a bent or possibly broken derailleur cage if you have a rock strike (carbon is less likely to have problems, but if it does, it's worse).
I'd say don't worry about it. If/when you need a new derailleur get what you want. X01 would be my vote tho.
Btw Brandon Semenuk used an XX1 derailleur for Rampage.
@@louiefriesen titanium pulleys? Did you even watch the video, all of the differences are explained.
Gx and use those 400 bucks for higher budget wheels!
hahah thats right!
so the xx1 axs uses better pulley wheel hardware, bearings, bushings, & pivots.
was wonder if could swap these hardware pieces from my xx1 mechanical derailleur to a GX axs?
any thoughts?
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Informative and to the point, nice!
This works converting shimano slx 12 speed. Confirmed
My friend runs that setup, XTR cassette and axs shifter/derailleur. Works like a dream. The only thing is he can’t downshift 3 gears at a time like you can on a mechanical shifter but, he’s still happy.
Watching this video bec I got a great deal on an X01 for 400usd new. Taken out from a new bike. Upgrading from GX lunar 10-52
Hey great video, but can you tell me why the gx axs kits seem to ship with the white bgap tool and the xo1 and up axs kits seem to ship with the blue bgap tool? There seems to be confusion as to which tool to use. I was under the impression that the white tool works on all eagle cassettes regardless of which eagle gear you have (50-52) since you clip it onto the 42t gear, but my LBS says you have to use the blue tool for axs.
I'm not the kind of rider who can justify paying hundreds to save 80 grams. My GX 1x with a 10-50 cassette and 40t Rival crank is being installed right now, can't wait to try it out.
At the end of the day, as long as you are getting out riding your bike, that's what matters!
Why are the cages around the lower jockey wheel different on them?
How does nicer finish quality equate to tighter tolerances?
It doesn't. He's wrong.
@@gebhardt2 Unless you know for fact, don't say it as fact.
How much is the weight of the cable version to the non cable? What is lighter of the same group ?
Are the axs derailers lighter than the regular
No I´m not a Dentist, but I go with XX1. Because its so much lighter to spend the money to save 100grams at the rear derailleur, then saving 100grams on my body 😂
Solid video TY. Question, I have the GX version right now and am considering picking up an XO1 as a BU in case I happen to destroy the GX. On my last outing I banged the derailleur and the part that has the Sram logo "GX" on it seems to be made of plastic and am concerned about durability. Does the XO1 also have a plastic shell or is it made out of metal like the regular analog GX option? If not, I'll just get a BU GX and save the bucks. Thanks!
Hello!!! Can i use not tubless tiers for a tubless setup???? ???????
Can you use a Shimano cassette with this set?
My dad made a bike with devel super Lexi with fox 32 and an xx1 rd he joined a triathlon with it and got it correct I don’t know if he intended to make a xc the fact he made just so my mom could use her bike I used her bike before his devel came in
does the AXS GX shift better than a Cable XO?
is the sram axs gx model compatible with shimano xt drive train?
Do I also need to change the cassette to fit the sram derailleur on can I keep what I currently have? Thanks!
That depends which cassette you currently have! These derailleurs work great with SRAM and Shimano wide range 12 speed cassettes, which most modern bikes have these days!
-Tor 😎
I would run gx more affordable and don’t see a lot of problems
I just bought the X01.
You will be STOKED! Enjoy!!
Does the gx controller work with the x01 derailleur and vice versa?
Yes they’re all interchangeable
tighter tolerances? Where is that written :S?
what about the tuneability in the app?, are they all the same?
Yes they are the same
XX1
The XX1 mech is a tank.
Nice
for aggressive mtb/enduro, only M7000 SLX/M8000 XT.
I've removed SRAM 12s from 2 of my bikes, in favour of Shimano 11s - way smaller, durable, without stupid price and I don't hit rocks or stumps on my rides anymore.
Oof. I was liking the sounds of the X01, but not at that price point! Heck, not even at half that price point! It would have to be under $300 for me to even be remotely interested.
Anybody know if these are hackable for 11 or 10 speed drivetrains?
At least the new GX doesn't look like. But depending on your current gear, it might be possible to simply switch from an 11 gear to 12 gear cassette.
I wouldn't run it. I actually just ordered a full xt 11-speed drivetrain, because it's cheaper and lighter than my old eagle. Don't really need more gears tbh
Any hacks to use this on 11 speed yet?
Love the vid!!!?
xx1🎉🎉🎉
Shimano Deore shifts better than the most expensive SRAM drivetrain.
Meanwhile my derailleur is bent, as well as hanger and my bike shifts like garbage
Iam waiting for sx axs
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GX is good enough.
Perhaps the prices will drop in future even further. Personally don't see the upgrade worth for the cost.
100% price will come down, then they’ll reengineer something to bump it back up again!
Wireless is overrated. The tactile feel of a cable, not ever needing to charge something and saving a ton of cash makes mechanical make more sense.
Can I install this on my rigid single speed
Yeah ideal for tensioning the chain if you have vertical droputs 🤣
Idk where but I definitely have seen a pic of someone who built a $10k+ SS who did legit use an X01 AXS rear mech to tension the chain
wireless is not needed for 1x drivetrains... its easier to set up, so what, how often do you change mechs
GX
Is there a weight savings or penalty from going xx1 cable shifting to XX1 AXS ?
They need to lower the price, these are insanely overpriced! I could not believe looking at a drivetrain for almost $3000 😮
I don't trust wireless bike shifters. Maybe in my next life I will try this but cool review video nonetheless
Доброго времени суток. Пришлите мне в Россию такой как на видео очень нужен, у нас не купить
Yay, more cool stuff you can't buy for your bike.
I will run NONE of those.
either sell a kidney or keep xtr

either sell a kidney or keep xtr

either sell a kidney or keep xtr

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