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I have really bad problem question please help me❤️ ; What you between this all occult magic explaning in your channel also beeelive and using ? Also what you think between this magic system or occult really work??? I mean as getting money or luck or heal because I did a lot of this practice and none of them work for me I made money healing talisman spell in different occult like chaos magik golden dawn enochian magic witchcraft and none of them work instead I got bad luck
I just recently heard about Chaos magick and realized I have kind of developed a mentality similar to it before knowing what it was. I would love to learn more about it! I hope you make more vids on Chaos Magick
It seems to me that magick, in general, is everywhere and in everything. I belive that one can perform magick just by doing and not by thinking about it. In other words we all can perform wonders just by believing in yourself. Great channel. Thank you.
I've been studying witchcraft for a while now but the idea of chaos magick makes my inner child giggle in delight . I'm a leo . I love flamboyant, shocking elements. But on the other hand I simply love the idea that you have the freedom and space to not only learn everything there is and using it together or separate depending on how you feel. I have very clear authority figure issues. So, this concept is beautiful
SAME HEREEE!!! I am a Leo too!!! You know, I have felt very dense with chaos Magic mentality (which i just realized i poesses it a few min ago), but you sparkled my face. That's true, even though there is no "consistent thing" we are somehow pretty much free and I don't ever reject my moods, thoughts or emotions so having that mentality is so freeing!! Thank you so much🙏❤
I’m a hermetic magician, but I also do chaos magick in equal measure. My whole idea is to have daily rituals, but when I actually need something done, I’ll throw everything including the kitchen sink at the problem.
I do appreciate the academic approach you bring here. The debate channels are interesting, but it's good to see someone discussing the role that religion plays in culture from a sociological viewpoint.
I love this. You nailed Chaos Magick as I see it... although I haven't thought of it as the left-handed path. Another quote from Peter Carroll boils down Chaos Magick to it's main point: "Magick works in practice but not in theory". Awesome discussion. Thanks!
Super interesting considering In physics when you aren't looking at something it splinters into trillions upon trillions of possibilities and when you look back at it or "observe" it, it collapses into one possibility that happens to be the same for everybody. Why? My "explanation" of sorts is that we as humans are all (mostly) hardwired the same neurologically and as a byproduct psychically as well. This is why we have to enter an alternative state of consciousness to see behind the veil at all the possibilities and "select" the one we find most beneficial to us. This is at least how I rationalize it in my head since I believe there are actual explanations if you look for them but I tried not to talk about the chaos realm itself since it's a bit futile and ironically a waste of time for a human to grasp the understanding of infinity. great video I loved it and it made me think too.
It's funny that what Joe Dispenza is writig & teaching in his self help book 'Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself' is exactly what chaos magick is. He just wraps it differently and without sigils. Both work just fine.
Where have you been all my life?!! Seriously, anthropology, philosophy, psychology, magick and the gothic? We should be best friends... Anyway, love the video, and I would love to see more on Chaos Magick, that's one area I've never really delved into, and it sounds much better for me than any dogmatic religion; even though I do like iconography/iconoclasm , I know that the meanings of icons, idols, symbols, etc. can change and morph over time.
The embrace of paradox in particular is something I've sort of come to on my own over the years, so it's interesting to see if a little more formalized from someone else. For instance, objective reality can only ever be experienced subjectively; it is an inherently non-rational belief to choose to trust your sense, an act which logically (in the formal sense) undermines every other conclusion reached experientially. Likewise, the nature of power is such that on can only get stronger (in most cases) relative to something else, and that once overcome, it is significantly harder to improve without improving your opponent/opposition. This creates something akin to natural limits on the growth of individuals with respect to their group such that in order to progress as an individual it becomes necessary to train your peers to your level in order to advance oneself. Granted, that's not the most academically rigorous explanation, but it does enough to outline the foundational beliefs in may particular theism which recognizes a higher power that is infathomably more intelligent or creative than we could even imagine who has created an existence predicated on irreconcilable paradox such that no matter how long life persists, it can only get closer to resolution of those paradoxes without solving them. Thus the meaning of life is a constant, infinite struggle to get closer to a recognizably impossible goal, emphasizing the importance of the journey and improvement of technique over achieving enlightenment or any sort of definable endpoint.
Halfway through “Condensed Chaos” and then I see this vid, talk about synchronicities!! Thankyou for your thorough outlining, can’t wait for more content!! =*
I've seen some criticism of Nietzsche and the ability to choose one's own morals & values. Some suggested that it was rather revelation. I've also seen similar criticism of Chaos Magick and the ability to choose one's own beliefs. "Is this really possible?" Some suggested that only superficial manipulation was possible and that to change or train one's core beliefs was not possible.
I support nearly every form of magical practice, including Chaos Magick. I feel like some of the cultural content of a magical practice informs the performer and contains an element of unconscious energy, such as archetypes and ancestral spirits. Thanks for more great content, Angela! Keep it up!
Thanks for all your amazing vids, this is my first official year practicing Chaos Magick. For me it fits like a glove and had been knocking on my door the last couple of years. Its allowing me more freedom in crafting and casting. I find i am more passionate and effective that way. Yet I will continue to learn from other practices as well and not betray the practice - perfect. Last but not least, I love how you craft your words and release them as though they were art. Absolutely beautiful, I have to often rewatch since I get lost in your words. :)
Wow, so many of my personal beliefs line up with chaos magick and the left hand path. Definitely worth more exploration on my part. Thanks for the great video!
I will listen to you for a million years ANY DAY! lol... What a treat after a rather middle of the road program of religious studies for my degree... Getting great inspirations on so many levels...Thank you for your disciplined research, instruction, and affectionate approach... just brilliant.
I very much love the freedom part. I always felt out of the norm because my approach was to tear down systems and create something that actually works without the bloated rituals. Of course, some of them I like for the sheer meditation practice. It's a great playground, for as long as I don't take it too seriously. Thank you for sharing your extensive view.
Thank you for this explanation of Chaos Magic as a definite system. I was born in the early 1970’s and self-initiated in the 1980’s to what I called natural magic or shaman magic that I practice to this day. I see much similarity between my natural magic and Chao Magic. You have given me a new puzzle to unpack. Thank you Blessed be
I have no idea how i stumbled onto your channel but SOB, i'm in. Trying to understand Chaos magick has always left me in chaos but you helped to explain it well to me. i will be subscribing. Gracias.
And you will! So much more to come, as long as the channel grows I'll keep making academic videos on esoteric topics! Help me out by sharing my videos around, please. :-)
I am so glad i found you. Growing up in a religious household, I was always that child in search of "the truth". Little did I know i would end up at a point where the more I try to find it, the more elusive it becomes.
Boundaries exist for a reason, good or bad, and breaking them has consequences. When I came out, I spent 13 months (approximately) going through intense mood swings. Chaos magic tends (to my understanding, and I may be wrong) to break boundaries because they exist.
Thank You for a great video! This explains so much, and confirms my thoughts on my own forms of magick. I never would have thought chaos magick as a thing, let alone that I was in a sense practicing it. I've always believed that magick was a personal thing, what works for one might not for another, and I feel chaos magick perfectly embodies that.
jesus the coming christ is the way, the truth", and the life no man comes to the father but by I'm, your evil practices is an abomination unto heaven christ and his father elohim, you are well on your way to taking yourself to hell it's lake of fire, you do your father's will lucifer/satan and you teach your wickedness therefore the blood of many are on your hands, there will be no R.I.P for you nor those who follow you. biblical end of days bible prophecies in progress 2023, a watchman on the wall sounding the alarm bells before the return of the great roaring lion of judah yeshua ha mashiach. you have been warned".
Patron you dont want that you need someone to be your slave in the kingdom of darknest you are a demon directly from hell you are a curs until you give your life to God himself then you will be a bless i dont deal with magic , power i deal with vengence belong to me which is God himself therefore power belong to God also repent or prepare for the lake of fire eternal
Thank you very much for the concise, yet thorough, explanation of Chaos Magick. As a young man in the early 90s I discovered Peter Carroll and Phil Hine, and have practiced since then. It has been a wonderful journey of discovery, and remains so even in my 50s as I learn more about older initiatory paths and incorporate that into my practice. Compliments on your choice of t-shirt in the video; I'm still irritated that they cancelled their tour last year!
Great video as always. Chaos Magick was my introduction into the occult via comic book writer Grant Morrison. I'd love to see your take on his more occult-oriented works.
My Mum was a Wiccan. I am a punky lil Anarchist. This entire school definitely speaks to me, yet Mum's warning to "be careful with powers ya don't understand" stops me from running hog wild. But I also can't help but hear Chaos Magick as "someone let anarchists learn pagan ways"... And I absolutely love that image in my head 😍
I'm so glad I found your videos!!! I adore your accent as well. I'm currently reading about chaos magic and having your videos reiterate the ideas mark it so easy to learn! I'm also really happy you mix science and philosophy within the spiritual.
I really enjoyed this video. The whole thing was so good that it's too hard for me to pick a favorite part. In the future I would love to see more about the praxis of chaos magicians, especially on sigils and servitors. If you could cover the contributions of Rune Soup's Gordon White to Chaos Magick I would be forever grateful! Keep up the good work!
Chaos Magick was my introduction to Magick. Directly from the Spirit World, if you can believe it. Through the Gateway Process, I met Morgan le Fey, and she unlocked my Magical Circuits and put me on the path to learning Chaos Magick. I've since begun using it regularly, making three of my own Sigels and even invoking a deity of my own making. I may be biased, because it was my introduction, but this feels like what magick was _meant_ to be, in all honesty. For those curious, the deity I created and now mainly work with is called XenoFighter. She's _really_ easy to work with, and as I envision her to be directly associated with Source Energy she's _extremely_ powerful.
I must say Angela, I do believe I have learned more about myself as a left handed science and engineering oriented person from you here. A friend brought up Chaos Magick before... I shall look into it again.
So excited to have found your channel! Are you Italian? As an Italian woman living in the states I’m so delighted to hear from you about chaos magic and philosophy. Keep up the great work :)
I'm digging every thing that is truth that you are discussing but many earthlings will not listen to or even acknowledge that this is are history. Awesome keep up all the great things that you bring to your channel
This is a thing I love of this practice, that you don't have to confine on just one type of tradition, you can study them all and learn from it, in order to make it work, not only for my own benefit, but others also. At least this is my perspective and the way on doing things.
The emphasis is on creating your own rule(s) of magick. All schools of thought were once upon a time made up by occult masters and spiritual leaders etc... and those teachings were based on even older forms of language and older forms of magick practice. For as long as you are practicing under another persons rule, you are adhering to a set of boundaries and laws, and you aren’t ever in full control of your own will, as much as you or they might want you to believe it. ;) People have to understand that language and symbolism is one of the most basic and earliest forms magick that we all practice daily, whether we realise it or not! I know many of you on this channel may already understand this... but the very words I’m typing here are spells, spells I am entranced by and spells I’m currently entrancing you with. I’m controlling your mind and your will as I speak, albeit in a very none sinister way, but im still helping to control what you think about based on our cultural symbolism and interpretation... We all do it...and we are all capable of doing it...so lesson one, is it really is that simple. chaos is about separating yourself from all of the context and all of the conditioning you have ever experienced, socially, culturally, historically - even magically. because this is the natural order we have tried to put things in to, in order to make sense of life and in order to feel closer to ‘god’ - or closer to any true purpose for that matter. Here we go: Making up your own words and symbols in order to compel, communicate, and impose will IS the very act of chaos which occurred at the dawn of humankind, and which still influences and controls us today. Languages are spells, commercial brandings are sigils, (Mcdonals, Apple, Adidas) these are all cryptic and symbolic spells whether they realise it or not Our personal signatures are a sigil. yet we don’t realise it because we have handed over our own identity and control to our current spiritual and cultural (secret society or government) leaders. Listen. You are a magician when you create something new. Or you can be a witch whenever you use your will to impose change. Whatever, it’s up to you.... You compel people with the act of creation. This is why many schools of magick compel people with the intentional use of cryptic symbology, ritual, jargon, or made up words you won’t find in any dictionary. Because they are made up. with the very intention of confusing and controlling people. It’s what they all have in common actually: A Christian would tell you that of Islam, in Islam they would tell you that of Buddhism, in Buddhism they would tell you that of Scientology. A Scientologist would tell you that of satanism... and a magician knows it’s true of them all. That’s the trick. That’s it right there, but people don’t realise they are being compelled or confused or entranced because it’s more often than not done by something they just don’t understand... It’s all made up.... everything. All human languages were jargon until we gave it an objective cultural meaning. And the symbols we use to describe things are different all around the world. Therefore to understand any of what I’m talking about, you need to go to it’s birth, to whoever created it... whatever their true will and intention was at the time of creation was the very thing it became...whatever it means after that is only a contextual interpretation or a sentimental relationship which is based on a faith or belief system: conditioning by the original act of magick. This is what happened at the very dawn of our developing civilisations - with the birth of language and cultural symbolism, we created a way to communicate and compel each other to try and make sense of our purpose and of each other. Eventually as symbolism and languages developed - they were used to control and manipulate, based on our primal desires (and fears!) Some people made up words... then other ones... and so on and so on. Some people drew on walls... some people drew on rocks... some people drew on themselves. Some people drew symbols on themselves to make them appear as though they had more cultural importance...I could go on but I hope you get the picture... (pun intended) Therefore - we desperately need to separate ourselves from the context of our time and go way back to when there were a lot less rules. The best way to summarise this is if you were to read a language that wasn’t of your native speaking country, any language that you currently dont understand, even a made up one. In fact it helps if it’s a made up language! Then you need to imagine yourself as the VERY first person to create that language, at it’s very origin. YOU wrote the first letters of that alphabet. YOU uttered the first word that meant ‘hello’ . YOU drew the symbols to describe happiness and sadness. YOU invented each symbol of the numeric system... YOU developed gestured to greet and interact with people. YOU created small rituals that people copied and preacticed themselves.... (That Could be on how to cook, or on what to wear)... Then slowly, over time, People within your culture and society started to follow your rule. They started to believe in YOUR words. In YOUR symbols. In your rituals. And ultimately it stared to shape the very identity of your culture and of every person within it. Because you gave life a meaning, you gave life a purpose to these people. You influenced all of its meanings, you create all of the silly scribbles and lines that describe every individual notion, act or emotion. And those silly little lines and squiggles end up being interpreted by future generations and taught in the nursery schools as a language. You imposed your will. And you had true power and control. You are like any wizard... witch... I’ve ever heard.... just like any king, queen or dictator... You are like a god Do you understand yet This is exactly what happened at the birth of societies and cultures. We are compelled, influenced and entranced by all of its context, and we have absolutely no idea about any of it. Chaos is about recognising this in its fullest and taking back control of your identity... it’s endless.... Crowley knew it, and thats why so many of his books make absolutely no sense to anybody, but he was creating his own world. He was trying to take back the control. It takes years for many people to learn any of that stuff. Id be interested to see what people have to say below. Thanks
Hi angela just came across you today you have blown me out of the water not only was i unwittingly following the left hand path, i could never name how i felt about the world now i know chaos magic, thankyou or such an inciteful day.
I've been practicing "seriously" for a little over a year. I have found that chaos magick keeps popping up for me. I do not know for certain that this is my path but it's the only one that truly relates to this Virgo. I would appreciate any and all information you can share on this subject. I'm trying to find my way.
Hmmm.... Straight to what works? I wonder, have practitioners come to any consensus of what works, or does it break down to mainly individual experience and anecdotal evidence? I do like the idea of approaching magic scientifically, I'm just curious if that's something they've actually done, based on what you've seen through your research. And, yeah Bauhaus!
Consensus is for joiners... a bit opposite of chaos. The basics are the same though. There is a consensus that breathwork, visualization, emotion, grattitude...etc all work.
Good video, you summed it up nicely regarding the IOT, Both Phil and Pete are great guys to talk to, we had them visit our Birmingham Temple when I lived in UK. Baz our Magister made me the Temple Fool, great fun. Sometime I might mention how we rented the Church Hall by booking it under E.L.F.S..
I understand why you did a video on the left hand path before this one. Chaos magick would seem to involve a lot of wasted effort experimenting to find what works but as you explain it you have to know what the rules are to deliberately and knowingly break them. I am looking forward to the Patreon discussion on this one :)
Some of the premises sound good like: "Nothing is true and everything is permitted " and yet the realms of time and space beckon us to repetition and ease!
can you practice existentialism? Can you practice a non-practice that (in itself) believes that to have a practice is ridiculous? I'm not being sarcastic and I DO understand existentialism as a philosophy. If a person truly believes that everything is absurd and they must do whatever they want (as long as they are willing to deal with the consequences), how and why, could they commit to a practice? Doesn't the idea contradict the possibility of rules? Aren't rules required for a practice to exist? Isn't that why people realised "trying not to care" was impossible and gave-up on the idea 70 years ago?
@@Saffron-sugar Always contradicting rules is a rule. I think it's clear that that's up to the practicioner, the grid they're currently using, and the consequences they can see. My reasons for not partaking of the hot dog bun are my own, some jovial and some somber indeed.
I found out about chaos magick today and this is the first video of it I watch and this is what I practice. I am a student of Abraham Hicks and that is exactly what they teach. The world you experience is the world you believe in.
Strangely enough, I described the majority of Peter J Carroll's explanations to an Eastern Orthodox priest, and he agreed that they were correct -- the only thing he didn't like was the "nothing is true -- everything is permitted" axiom, though he agreed that it works as a syllogism. I am reasonably certain that PJC is correct in his assertion that a perennial understanding of magick underlies ancient religions, though I'd posit that Protestants have no idea how any of it works.
absolutely! please please make more videos. My fav part was how you highlighted the tendency for chaos magick to cast aside all religion, tradition, and dogma but then pointed to the existence of a perennial philosophy, an essential and underlying Truth. To me, this is the reality of Advaita Vedanta. I come from a more yogic background where Sanatana Dharma is known as the perennial philosophy. I haven't checked out the rest of your videos, yet, but, i hope you'd consider looking into Eastern spirituality and considering how it can tie back to some of the points you mention here. Specifically Shiva and what Shiva is, and tantric yoga. Glad to find your channel!
Awesome, as expected. What I liked the most was the mention of the Aristotelian non-contradiction principle as a chain. It'd be great to see more videos on this topic. I think an interesting variant to explore is Discordianism, which I find extremely similar, and the influence of Robert Anton Wilson's ideas on the latter as well as in Chaos Magick as such, especially the stance of generalized agnosticism, which is very similar to "nothing is true". Greetings, Angela!
Thanks, Juan Carlos. You're going to like tomorrow's video! Also, there's an interview planned on Discordianism which will be up on the channel soon. 🤓
I started just as Chaos Magic was developed. This all just seemed obvious to me. I started out with shamanism and spread out from there. Angela's right; it is a romanticized view of historical shamanism. The important part is that it works.
Thank you so much for shedding some light on this topic from a more academic perspective! I've been dabbling in Magick and Hermeticism in and out for a couple of years, and as far as I know the vast majority of materials easily available online or otherwise are either coming solely from a practitioner's pov or get clinically glossed over as a minor chapter in the History of Philosophy. I kinda knew there's been robust literature on this topic in recent years that I've meant to take a peek into but haven't actually got around to. So I always wanted an accessible content for general public that approaches Magic and the occult as a legitimate field of research on its own merit.
Thanks for sharing that. What you just mentioned is the reason as to why I opened this channel, to make public academic research on the topic and offer it to the community of practitioners. :-)
"nothing's true, everything is permitted". doc, sorry I clicked on an earlier video. back to the most recent long format... much love and respect to you. 😍
Thanks for this video! It's refreshing to see a skillful summary of chaos magic that doesn't wax on about how esoteric and complex it is! Throwing in my own two cents as a practicing chaos magician- on the two traits of iconoclasm and perrenialism: First- are they theoretically contradictory? Yup, that is the idea. Second, on the trans-shamanistic elements of it, my interpretation of the text is as follows: the ur-magical practices described in chaos magic isn't necessarily suggesting that all cunning folk in all cultures have the exact same practice, but rather that trans-culturally, the cunning folk share similar tendencies: first, cunning folk tend to be willing to lean into their own uncertainty where others might be deterred by the experience of cognitive dissonance. Second, cunning folk from all parts of the world usually develop a practice that is centered around the development of gnosis through trance or ecstasy. This can vary quite widely based on the tools available to them: intoxicants like alcohol and psychedelics are commonly used when available, but so are other things such as dance, drumming, trance, meditation, prayer, breathwork- anything that can induce an altered state of consciousness. Third, these traditions tend to focus on developing knowledge of uncertain (occult) phenomena with an eye to manipulate them. Most commonly this includes, health/sickness of an individual, community or landscape; weather patterns, interpersonal relationships, and what might be broadly called "spiritual development:" physical, intellectual, emotional and interpersonal training to act more effectively. Does this mean that all cunning folk employ the same means, or are derived from a single, primordial tradition? No, that would be pretty absurd. There are clear historical lineages for different practices and trying to big-tent all of them under one thing or another needlessly simplifies them into cartoon versions of themselves. What chaos magic's perrenialism is hinting at is that, in a human body, there is a limited phase space of possible techniques that can be used to induce gnosis. These techniques covergently developed in similar contexts, with a number of different theoretical explanation for why they work. Some of these theories are useful, while others can be needlessly constricting. A good chaos magician would be wise to draw from any and all traditions that seem to work for them, let go of the aspects of those traditions which contradict their own experiences and continually tests the waters to see if they can create something new. As with any creative endeavor, each practitioner must strike a balance between tradition and creativity, based on their own goals and abilities. As one's skills develop and needs change, this balance will change over time.
Back in the 2000's i used to participate in a chaos magick forum, wich was full of content. Discussions were intense, and there was people from all around the world and all ideologies. From there i came to know some things that helped me in my professional artistic work (since i am an artist) and in my own construction of an explanation of the universe. This has been very useful, and through time i've come to construct some personal rituals that help me deal with my own stuff in my everyday life. Thanks Angela for all the great content you are sharing. See ya! 👽
Yes chaos magic system have found one trick which really is one of the bace of all mystic and religious mystic things. There are many techniques like this in sanatan system. Some of them are super easy. But these tricks should be used properly else they may back fire.after e.g after chaos state of mind we should focus again on the desired object and then be positive and back to chaus state and forget. If one don't be positive or thoughts of mind is running like river then thoughts may steel the energy of the chaos state. Whole magic is depends on this.
In essence the special state is mind ego intellect is the creators power. If one knows it and do it. One don't even need any symbol sign etc. But here one tricky thing the the basic nature if energy. Electron proton neutron. About which west religions don't give much info. So the creations nature is that which this system yet havens decided completely. But it's already available in sanatan(hindu) system. These small techniques is tantra the system of nature. And this is a art which can be used for wrong purposes too That's why it was kept secret by sages. And advised to keep secret until one don't find worthy person But these days I This doesn't matter . But we should consider it too hoti some points in my opinion and understanding. Also the 3 qualities of nature should bee known and it's use and it's problems. Only the one can understand how our creation can be harmful too even if it's positive and good. But how when it's again a complicated subject. Which one can dig in to from sanatan.triguna system.
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I have really bad problem question please help me❤️ ;
What you between this all occult magic explaning in your channel also beeelive and using ?
Also what you think between this magic system or occult really work???
I mean as getting money or luck or heal because I did a lot of this practice and none of them work for me I made money healing talisman spell in different occult like chaos magik golden dawn enochian magic witchcraft and none of them work instead I got bad luck
This was very interesting and educational. Thank you!!
I practice a type of Chaos Magick every evening. I refer to it as "making dinner."
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I like the unstructured, no prerequisite approach of Chaos Magcik. It empowers by putting all the agency in the practitioner.
I just recently heard about Chaos magick and realized I have kind of developed a mentality similar to it before knowing what it was. I would love to learn more about it! I hope you make more vids on Chaos Magick
I will, Cory! Happy you look forward to them!
I am feeling the same way. What’s weird is that my whole life I created sigils without knowing what I was doing.
Same...same
It fits in so well in our post modern insane world
Yes I want more! I haven’t heard of it until recently, this may be what I was looking for. Should fit in our world we’re living in
It seems to me that magick, in general, is everywhere and in everything. I belive that one can perform magick just by doing and not by thinking about it. In other words we all can perform wonders just by believing in yourself. Great channel. Thank you.
Amazing explanation! I hope your doing amazing
I've been studying witchcraft for a while now but the idea of chaos magick makes my inner child giggle in delight . I'm a leo . I love flamboyant, shocking elements. But on the other hand I simply love the idea that you have the freedom and space to not only learn everything there is and using it together or separate depending on how you feel. I have very clear authority figure issues. So, this concept is beautiful
SAME HEREEE!!! I am a Leo too!!! You know, I have felt very dense with chaos Magic mentality (which i just realized i poesses it a few min ago), but you sparkled my face. That's true, even though there is no "consistent thing" we are somehow pretty much free and I don't ever reject my moods, thoughts or emotions so having that mentality is so freeing!! Thank you so much🙏❤
Leo checking in for the history lesson - as a Leo i feel it's important to understand our powers over people and use it for a decent result 👍
Team Leo 🥰
Oh leos,such beautiful people,of course I'm talking about myself too :D
All authority should be questioned,and if possible toppled down.
Leo rising here! 💗 love this comment!
I’m a hermetic magician, but I also do chaos magick in equal measure. My whole idea is to have daily rituals, but when I actually need something done, I’ll throw everything including the kitchen sink at the problem.
You had me at Bauhaus😁 🖤
hahaha Goth squad! 🖤
You guys should check out the new video from Powernan5000 called "Black Lipstick". Its a total nod to Bauhaus. I was pleasantly surprised to see it.
Bela Lugosi's dead!
I do appreciate the academic approach you bring here. The debate channels are interesting, but it's good to see someone discussing the role that religion plays in culture from a sociological viewpoint.
Thank you, Greg. Happy you like it.
Agreed
I love this. You nailed Chaos Magick as I see it... although I haven't thought of it as the left-handed path. Another quote from Peter Carroll boils down Chaos Magick to it's main point: "Magick works in practice but not in theory". Awesome discussion. Thanks!
Thank you. Glad to always find your comments!
Mtmk5, Liminal enteties I have found to be quite illuminating, although a price will be payed.
I think Chaos Magick is above all that which would make it middle path sort of imo
Yes she did. I've just sent this to 4 people that could never "get" my practice.
Super interesting considering In physics when you aren't looking at something it splinters into trillions upon trillions of possibilities and when you look back at it or "observe" it, it collapses into one possibility that happens to be the same for everybody. Why? My "explanation" of sorts is that we as humans are all (mostly) hardwired the same neurologically and as a byproduct psychically as well. This is why we have to enter an alternative state of consciousness to see behind the veil at all the possibilities and "select" the one we find most beneficial to us.
This is at least how I rationalize it in my head since I believe there are actual explanations if you look for them but I tried not to talk about the chaos realm itself since it's a bit futile and ironically a waste of time for a human to grasp the understanding of infinity. great video I loved it and it made me think too.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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I completely get what you’re saying and you are right .
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Welcome aboard!
It's funny that what Joe Dispenza is writig & teaching in his self help book 'Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself' is exactly what chaos magick is. He just wraps it differently and without sigils. Both work just fine.
Interesting
Yeah hahahaha You know You are right, making food, is Magic.
Where have you been all my life?!! Seriously, anthropology, philosophy, psychology, magick and the gothic? We should be best friends...
Anyway, love the video, and I would love to see more on Chaos Magick, that's one area I've never really delved into, and it sounds much better for me than any dogmatic religion; even though I do like iconography/iconoclasm , I know that the meanings of icons, idols, symbols, etc. can change and morph over time.
Aw, Moongirl. That's so lovely to hear! Thanks for letting me know your thoughts and please help me out by sharing my videos around!
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@@indegruv I will join that cult
@@indegruv I'm in!
@@indegruv by Sociological definition, a cult is merely a new religion in its beginning stages. Not the stereotype we see on TV.
“Bela Lugosi’s dead”...or is he? Can chaos magick render him...undead?! Find out next time on Angela’s Symposium! 🦇
undead undead undead 👻🧛♀️
My spirit teacher expressly forbode me from raising the dead 😁 I don't think he was worried by the morality of this, more about the energy cost ⚡😉
The embrace of paradox in particular is something I've sort of come to on my own over the years, so it's interesting to see if a little more formalized from someone else. For instance, objective reality can only ever be experienced subjectively; it is an inherently non-rational belief to choose to trust your sense, an act which logically (in the formal sense) undermines every other conclusion reached experientially. Likewise, the nature of power is such that on can only get stronger (in most cases) relative to something else, and that once overcome, it is significantly harder to improve without improving your opponent/opposition. This creates something akin to natural limits on the growth of individuals with respect to their group such that in order to progress as an individual it becomes necessary to train your peers to your level in order to advance oneself.
Granted, that's not the most academically rigorous explanation, but it does enough to outline the foundational beliefs in may particular theism which recognizes a higher power that is infathomably more intelligent or creative than we could even imagine who has created an existence predicated on irreconcilable paradox such that no matter how long life persists, it can only get closer to resolution of those paradoxes without solving them. Thus the meaning of life is a constant, infinite struggle to get closer to a recognizably impossible goal, emphasizing the importance of the journey and improvement of technique over achieving enlightenment or any sort of definable endpoint.
Intriguing insights! Thanks for sharing, Bercilak! 🙂
Halfway through “Condensed Chaos” and then I see this vid, talk about synchronicities!! Thankyou for your thorough outlining, can’t wait for more content!! =*
You are so welcome. Hope you're going to stick around!
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Its all about synchronicity.. 23
Looking forward to that Nietzsche/LHP video.
yay. It'll be fun!
@@jessxkirby38 I will
I've seen some criticism of Nietzsche and the ability to choose one's own morals & values. Some suggested that it was rather revelation.
I've also seen similar criticism of Chaos Magick and the ability to choose one's own beliefs. "Is this really possible?" Some suggested that only superficial manipulation was possible and that to change or train one's core beliefs was not possible.
I wonder also about Pragmatism and its role here.
I support nearly every form of magical practice, including Chaos Magick. I feel like some of the cultural content of a magical practice informs the performer and contains an element of unconscious energy, such as archetypes and ancestral spirits.
Thanks for more great content, Angela! Keep it up!
Great insight, John! Glad to read your thoughts!
You helped me understand what I do. Chaos magic. Building my own understanding of real magic without rituals and incantations.
Thank you for your work! I’m here from Esoterica I’m so glad I came to check this channel out!✨🌌✨
Thanks and welcome to the Symposium 😊
Thanks for all your amazing vids, this is my first official year practicing Chaos Magick. For me it fits like a glove and had been knocking on my door the last couple of years. Its allowing me more freedom in crafting and casting. I find i am more passionate and effective that way. Yet I will continue to learn from other practices as well and not betray the practice - perfect. Last but not least, I love how you craft your words and release them as though they were art. Absolutely beautiful, I have to often rewatch since I get lost in your words. :)
Thank you so much, Tony, what a lovely comment! Do let me know what you think of the other videos, too. :-)
Wow, so many of my personal beliefs line up with chaos magick and the left hand path. Definitely worth more exploration on my part. Thanks for the great video!
Thanks for sharing, Leanne! Glad it was helpful
Woah so much info in one short video! Gonna have to watch this a few times
I will listen to you for a million years ANY DAY! lol... What a treat after a rather middle of the road program of religious studies for my degree... Getting great inspirations on so many levels...Thank you for your disciplined research, instruction, and affectionate approach... just brilliant.
that's lovely, thank you!
I very much love the freedom part. I always felt out of the norm because my approach was to tear down systems and create something that actually works without the bloated rituals. Of course, some of them I like for the sheer meditation practice. It's a great playground, for as long as I don't take it too seriously. Thank you for sharing your extensive view.
glad you enjoyed it, Diana
Thank you for this explanation of Chaos Magic as a definite system. I was born in the early 1970’s and self-initiated in the 1980’s to what I called natural magic or shaman magic that I practice to this day. I see much similarity between my natural magic and Chao Magic. You have given me a new puzzle to unpack. Thank you
Blessed be
I have no idea how i stumbled onto your channel but SOB, i'm in. Trying to understand Chaos magick has always left me in chaos but you helped to explain it well to me. i will be subscribing. Gracias.
Welcome aboard!
If I believed in magic this is the type of magic I would practice, and I would choose Angela is my personal Bellissima Dea. ;-)
haha thank you, Pinche! Please, share my videos around. Your Dea would be pleased. 🤣😆😀
I´d love to see more on alchemy!
And you will! So much more to come, as long as the channel grows I'll keep making academic videos on esoteric topics! Help me out by sharing my videos around, please. :-)
@@drangelapuca I will ^_^
@@NOISEONOMICON thanks ^_^
I am so glad i found you. Growing up in a religious household, I was always that child in search of "the truth". Little did I know i would end up at a point where the more I try to find it, the more elusive it becomes.
Boundaries exist for a reason, good or bad, and breaking them has consequences. When I came out, I spent 13 months (approximately) going through intense mood swings. Chaos magic tends (to my understanding, and I may be wrong) to break boundaries because they exist.
he would say that boundaries are socially created to limit our experiences. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Thank You for a great video! This explains so much, and confirms my thoughts on my own forms of magick. I never would have thought chaos magick as a thing, let alone that I was in a sense practicing it. I've always believed that magick was a personal thing, what works for one might not for another, and I feel chaos magick perfectly embodies that.
You are so welcome!
Thank you for this accurate description of chaos magick. I have been a practitioner for many years.
Thanks for sharing, Cindy!
Ditto :)
I use Chaos Magick app to create powerful sigils, life is amazing ❤
Me too!!
Same here :D
I tought i was the only using that app
pleased by your enthusiasm
Lucky you. Magick has never worked for me, I've given up trying.
You pack so much information in a 10 minute video. Short, sweet and to the point. I am always Wowed. 😳
Wow, thanks!
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jesus the coming christ is the way, the truth", and the life no man comes to the father but by I'm, your evil practices is an abomination unto heaven christ and his father elohim, you are well on your way to taking yourself to hell it's lake of fire, you do your father's will lucifer/satan and you teach your wickedness therefore the blood of many are on your hands, there will be no R.I.P for you nor those who follow you. biblical end of days bible prophecies in progress 2023, a watchman on the wall sounding the alarm bells before the return of the great roaring lion of judah yeshua ha mashiach. you have been warned".
Patron you dont want that you need someone to be your slave in the kingdom of darknest you are a demon directly from hell you are a curs until you give your life to God himself then you will be a bless i dont deal with magic , power i deal with vengence belong to me which is God himself therefore power belong to God also repent or prepare for the lake of fire eternal
"Things are only true as long as the Chaos magician deems them useful or instrumental for the set purpose."
That pretty well says it all really.
thanks!
Fantastic job as always .
Thank you very much for the concise, yet thorough, explanation of Chaos Magick. As a young man in the early 90s I discovered Peter Carroll and Phil Hine, and have practiced since then. It has been a wonderful journey of discovery, and remains so even in my 50s as I learn more about older initiatory paths and incorporate that into my practice. Compliments on your choice of t-shirt in the video; I'm still irritated that they cancelled their tour last year!
Great video as always. Chaos Magick was my introduction into the occult via comic book writer Grant Morrison. I'd love to see your take on his more occult-oriented works.
Thanks, Dreamo, great suggestion!
My Mum was a Wiccan. I am a punky lil Anarchist. This entire school definitely speaks to me, yet Mum's warning to "be careful with powers ya don't understand" stops me from running hog wild. But I also can't help but hear Chaos Magick as "someone let anarchists learn pagan ways"... And I absolutely love that image in my head 😍
not too far from the truth. Look up Nathanial J Harris, he was that punky lil anarchist (and probably still is lol).
@@AlIguana oh thankya greatly, I know have a new rabbit hole to take an Alice like tumble down 😁
I could listen to you all day long
Thank you, Steve 😊
Yes!!! Please, more videos on Chaos Magick!
I will ^_^
I'm so glad I found your videos!!! I adore your accent as well. I'm currently reading about chaos magic and having your videos reiterate the ideas mark it so easy to learn! I'm also really happy you mix science and philosophy within the spiritual.
thanks and welcome to the Symposium!
So I've been practicing this most of my spiritual life and now I know what it is? Your video was very helpful! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful, Amby! How did you come across my video if you were not already familiar with Chaos Magick? I'm intrigued. ☺️
today I discovered that my style has a lot to do with chaos magick! and your video was very useful to get more familiar with it... thx!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you, you’re so great at explaining ❤❤
Glad you think so!
I would love to hear more about Chaos Magick. I’m currently reading “The Octavo (Roundworld Edition)” by Peter J. Carroll. It’s an amazing work.
And you will! Next video will be on Nietzsche and Left-Hand paths 🤓
I really enjoyed this video. The whole thing was so good that it's too hard for me to pick a favorite part. In the future I would love to see more about the praxis of chaos magicians, especially on sigils and servitors. If you could cover the contributions of Rune Soup's Gordon White to Chaos Magick I would be forever grateful! Keep up the good work!
Glad you enjoyed it, Russell! And thanks for the suggestions 🤗
Chaos Magick was my introduction to Magick. Directly from the Spirit World, if you can believe it. Through the Gateway Process, I met Morgan le Fey, and she unlocked my Magical Circuits and put me on the path to learning Chaos Magick. I've since begun using it regularly, making three of my own Sigels and even invoking a deity of my own making.
I may be biased, because it was my introduction, but this feels like what magick was _meant_ to be, in all honesty. For those curious, the deity I created and now mainly work with is called XenoFighter. She's _really_ easy to work with, and as I envision her to be directly associated with Source Energy she's _extremely_ powerful.
I must say Angela, I do believe I have learned more about myself as a left handed science and engineering oriented person from you here. A friend brought up Chaos Magick before... I shall look into it again.
So excited to have found your channel! Are you Italian? As an Italian woman living in the states I’m so delighted to hear from you about chaos magic and philosophy. Keep up the great work :)
Yes I am! thank you, Francesca
Definitely make more videos on this!! I would find them very helpful and you explained it so well!
Thank you, primal witch! I will 🤗
I'm digging every thing that is truth that you are discussing but many earthlings will not listen to or even acknowledge that this is are history. Awesome keep up all the great things that you bring to your channel
I appreciate that. Thanks for letting me know, Glynn
This is a thing I love of this practice, that you don't have to confine on just one type of tradition, you can study them all and learn from it, in order to make it work, not only for my own benefit, but others also. At least this is my perspective and the way on doing things.
Thank you! 🥳
thank you, i am just learning about this and really like all the points you mentioned. This definitely kept me interested to hear and learn more!
That's amazing, Nats! Thanks for letting me know 😊
Very interesting. This is the first time I hear about Chaos magic. I learn so much from your videos!
I'm so glad! Also happy to always find your thoughts in the comments, Elfarlaur. You've been here from the start and I thank you for that. ^_^
First philosophy that completly makes sense. Thanks
The emphasis is on creating your own rule(s) of magick. All schools of thought were once upon a time made up by occult masters and spiritual leaders etc... and those teachings were based on even older forms of language and older forms of magick practice.
For as long as you are practicing under another persons rule, you are adhering to a set of boundaries and laws, and you aren’t ever in full control of your own will, as much as you or they might want you to believe it. ;)
People have to understand that language and symbolism is one of the most basic and earliest forms magick that we all practice daily, whether we realise it or not! I know many of you on this channel may already understand this... but the very words I’m typing here are spells, spells I am entranced by and spells I’m currently entrancing you with. I’m controlling your mind and your will as I speak, albeit in a very none sinister way, but im still helping to control what you think about based on our cultural symbolism and interpretation... We all do it...and we are all capable of doing it...so lesson one, is it really is that simple.
chaos is about separating yourself from all of the context and all of the conditioning you have ever experienced, socially, culturally, historically - even magically. because this is the natural order we have tried to put things in to, in order to make sense of life and in order to feel closer to ‘god’ - or closer to any true purpose for that matter.
Here we go:
Making up your own words and symbols in order to compel, communicate, and impose will IS the very act of chaos which occurred at the dawn of humankind, and which still influences and controls us today.
Languages are spells, commercial brandings are sigils, (Mcdonals, Apple, Adidas) these are all cryptic and symbolic spells whether they realise it or not
Our personal signatures are a sigil. yet we don’t realise it because we have handed over our own identity and control to our current spiritual and cultural (secret society or government) leaders.
Listen. You are a magician when you create something new. Or you can be a witch whenever you use your will to impose change. Whatever, it’s up to you....
You compel people with the act of creation. This is why many schools of magick compel people with the intentional use of cryptic symbology, ritual, jargon, or made up words you won’t find in any dictionary. Because they are made up. with the very intention of confusing and controlling people. It’s what they all have in common actually: A Christian would tell you that of Islam, in Islam they would tell you that of Buddhism, in Buddhism they would tell you that of Scientology. A Scientologist would tell you that of satanism... and a magician knows it’s true of them all.
That’s the trick. That’s it right there, but people don’t realise they are being compelled or confused or entranced because it’s more often than not done by something they just don’t understand...
It’s all made up.... everything.
All human languages were jargon until we gave it an objective cultural meaning. And the symbols we use to describe things are different all around the world.
Therefore to understand any of what I’m talking about, you need to go to it’s birth, to whoever created it... whatever their true will and intention was at the time of creation was the very thing it became...whatever it means after that is only a contextual interpretation or a sentimental relationship which is based on a faith or belief system: conditioning by the original act of magick.
This is what happened at the very dawn of our developing civilisations - with the birth of language and cultural symbolism, we created a way to communicate and compel each other to try and make sense of our purpose and of each other. Eventually as symbolism and languages developed - they were used to control and manipulate, based on our primal desires (and fears!)
Some people made up words... then other ones... and so on and so on. Some people drew on walls... some people drew on rocks... some people drew on themselves. Some people drew symbols on themselves to make them appear as though they had more cultural importance...I could go on but I hope you get the picture... (pun intended)
Therefore - we desperately need to separate ourselves from the context of our time and go way back to when there were a lot less rules.
The best way to summarise this is if you were to read a language that wasn’t of your native speaking country, any language that you currently dont understand, even a made up one. In fact it helps if it’s a made up language! Then you need to imagine yourself as the VERY first person to create that language, at it’s very origin. YOU wrote the first letters of that alphabet. YOU uttered the first word that meant ‘hello’ . YOU drew the symbols to describe happiness and sadness. YOU invented each symbol of the numeric system... YOU developed gestured to greet and interact with people. YOU created small rituals that people copied and preacticed themselves.... (That Could be on how to cook, or on what to wear)...
Then slowly, over time, People within your culture and society started to follow your rule. They started to believe in YOUR words. In YOUR symbols. In your rituals. And ultimately it stared to shape the very identity of your culture and of every person within it. Because you gave life a meaning, you gave life a purpose to these people. You influenced all of its meanings, you create all of the silly scribbles and lines that describe every individual notion, act or emotion. And those silly little lines and squiggles end up being interpreted by future generations and taught in the nursery schools as a language.
You imposed your will. And you had true power and control. You are like any wizard... witch... I’ve ever heard.... just like any king, queen or dictator...
You are like a god
Do you understand yet
This is exactly what happened at the birth of societies and cultures. We are compelled, influenced and entranced by all of its context, and we have absolutely no idea about any of it. Chaos is about recognising this in its fullest and taking back control of your identity... it’s endless.... Crowley knew it, and thats why so many of his books make absolutely no sense to anybody, but he was creating his own world. He was trying to take back the control.
It takes years for many people to learn any of that stuff. Id be interested to see what people have to say below. Thanks
thanks for sharing
I know it's been commented a bunch I've been interested in this practice and knew I was in the right place when I saw the Bauhaus shirt lmao
glad you left a comment
I would be very interested in more videos on chaos magic.
Then, I shall make more. :-)
Hi angela just came across you today you have blown me out of the water not only was i unwittingly following the left hand path, i could never name how i felt about the world now i know chaos magic, thankyou or such an inciteful day.
thank you, Darren
Very good introductory explanation on Chaos Magick. Thanks a lot!
So happy you liked it, Rodrigo! 😊
I've been practicing "seriously" for a little over a year. I have found that chaos magick keeps popping up for me. I do not know for certain that this is my path but it's the only one that truly relates to this Virgo. I would appreciate any and all information you can share on this subject.
I'm trying to find my way.
Wonderful, Marica! I'm going to make more videos on the topic
Amazing as always 🙂. I liked how you made the correlation between chaos magic and quantum physics. Is chaos magic similar to The law of Attraction?
Thanks, goblyn! No, The law of Attraction falls more in the realm of New Age movements but I understand how you could draw that connection.
I'm in love with Angela. One of my favorite channels on TH-cam!
Thanks!
great video. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Can you do a video on what doing magic is like or how it's actually practiced?
of course, always from an academic point of view :-)
Hmmm.... Straight to what works? I wonder, have practitioners come to any consensus of what works, or does it break down to mainly individual experience and anecdotal evidence? I do like the idea of approaching magic scientifically, I'm just curious if that's something they've actually done, based on what you've seen through your research. And, yeah Bauhaus!
Yes, Matt, it's based on what works for the individual.
Consensus is for joiners... a bit opposite of chaos. The basics are the same though. There is a consensus that breathwork, visualization, emotion, grattitude...etc all work.
Good video, you summed it up nicely regarding the IOT, Both Phil and Pete are great guys to talk to, we had them visit our Birmingham Temple when I lived in UK. Baz our Magister made me the Temple Fool, great fun. Sometime I might mention how we rented the Church Hall by booking it under E.L.F.S..
I understand why you did a video on the left hand path before this one. Chaos magick would seem to involve a lot of wasted effort experimenting to find what works but as you explain it you have to know what the rules are to deliberately and knowingly break them. I am looking forward to the Patreon discussion on this one :)
thanks Andrew! Looking forward to further discuss it, too!
Breathing exercises, slowing down breathing, slowing down heart rate, entering into another state, leaving your body, floating in the other state
Thanks for sharing
I find it amazing that this entire video was done with a single breath.
Wow, that's the second of your videos where I learned that I have been doing that thing and just didn't know it has a name
I'd love to hear more about chaos magick
thanks for letting me know, Karl. More to come!
One of the best descriptions I've seen of the philosophy of chaos Magik!
Some of the premises sound good like: "Nothing is true and everything is permitted " and yet the realms of time and space beckon us to repetition and ease!
Great to see you citing the great work of my friend Justin Woodman!
Thank you. Very well put :)
You're very welcome!
as a practicing existentialist and stoic, i really relate to chaos magick concepts. thank you for this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
can you practice existentialism?
Can you practice a non-practice that (in itself) believes that to have a practice is ridiculous?
I'm not being sarcastic and I DO understand existentialism as a philosophy.
If a person truly believes that everything is absurd and they must do whatever they want (as long as they are willing to deal with the consequences), how and why, could they commit to a practice? Doesn't the idea contradict the possibility of rules? Aren't rules required for a practice to exist? Isn't that why people realised "trying not to care" was impossible and gave-up on the idea 70 years ago?
@@Saffron-sugar why not?
@@Saffron-sugar Always contradicting rules is a rule. I think it's clear that that's up to the practicioner, the grid they're currently using, and the consequences they can see. My reasons for not partaking of the hot dog bun are my own, some jovial and some somber indeed.
I found out about chaos magick today and this is the first video of it I watch and this is what I practice. I am a student of Abraham Hicks and that is exactly what they teach. The world you experience is the world you believe in.
glad you started this journey
Grateful for you sharing your knowledge!
Strangely enough, I described the majority of Peter J Carroll's explanations to an Eastern Orthodox priest, and he agreed that they were correct -- the only thing he didn't like was the "nothing is true -- everything is permitted" axiom, though he agreed that it works as a syllogism. I am reasonably certain that PJC is correct in his assertion that a perennial understanding of magick underlies ancient religions, though I'd posit that Protestants have no idea how any of it works.
More on Chaos Magick please🤘🦇🌑
Sounds like my kinda magic. I have 0 patience for elaborate rituals but also need something practical. I am sold on this.
Thank you very much for this video. I am new to Chaos Magick and want to learn more.
Happy to see chaotic TH-camr! Chaognosticism is extremely rare ❤🇷🇺
absolutely! please please make more videos. My fav part was how you highlighted the tendency for chaos magick to cast aside all religion, tradition, and dogma but then pointed to the existence of a perennial philosophy, an essential and underlying Truth. To me, this is the reality of Advaita Vedanta. I come from a more yogic background where Sanatana Dharma is known as the perennial philosophy. I haven't checked out the rest of your videos, yet, but, i hope you'd consider looking into Eastern spirituality and considering how it can tie back to some of the points you mention here. Specifically Shiva and what Shiva is, and tantric yoga. Glad to find your channel!
that's lovely, thank you Fujujulia!
Awesome, as expected. What I liked the most was the mention of the Aristotelian non-contradiction principle as a chain. It'd be great to see more videos on this topic. I think an interesting variant to explore is Discordianism, which I find extremely similar, and the influence of Robert Anton Wilson's ideas on the latter as well as in Chaos Magick as such, especially the stance of generalized agnosticism, which is very similar to "nothing is true". Greetings, Angela!
Thanks, Juan Carlos. You're going to like tomorrow's video! Also, there's an interview planned on Discordianism which will be up on the channel soon. 🤓
Nice t-shirt 👍 Chaos Magick reflects the changing nature of reality (superposition) - systems are too shortsighted and constricting.
thanks for sharing
I've been practicing chaos magik this whole time...without knowing.
Glad you enjoyed it
I started just as Chaos Magic was developed. This all just seemed obvious to me.
I started out with shamanism and spread out from there. Angela's right; it is a romanticized view of historical shamanism. The important part is that it works.
Thank you so much for shedding some light on this topic from a more academic perspective! I've been dabbling in Magick and Hermeticism in and out for a couple of years, and as far as I know the vast majority of materials easily available online or otherwise are either coming solely from a practitioner's pov or get clinically glossed over as a minor chapter in the History of Philosophy. I kinda knew there's been robust literature on this topic in recent years that I've meant to take a peek into but haven't actually got around to. So I always wanted an accessible content for general public that approaches Magic and the occult as a legitimate field of research on its own merit.
Thanks for sharing that. What you just mentioned is the reason as to why I opened this channel, to make public academic research on the topic and offer it to the community of practitioners. :-)
Love this.
Some of the points in this video were extremely insightful!!! Thank you very much!! 🥰🥰🥰
Thanks!
"nothing's true, everything is permitted". doc, sorry I clicked on an earlier video. back to the most recent long format...
much love and respect to you. 😍
Welcome back!
Thanks for this video! It's refreshing to see a skillful summary of chaos magic that doesn't wax on about how esoteric and complex it is!
Throwing in my own two cents as a practicing chaos magician- on the two traits of iconoclasm and perrenialism:
First- are they theoretically contradictory? Yup, that is the idea.
Second, on the trans-shamanistic elements of it, my interpretation of the text is as follows: the ur-magical practices described in chaos magic isn't necessarily suggesting that all cunning folk in all cultures have the exact same practice, but rather that trans-culturally, the cunning folk share similar tendencies: first, cunning folk tend to be willing to lean into their own uncertainty where others might be deterred by the experience of cognitive dissonance. Second, cunning folk from all parts of the world usually develop a practice that is centered around the development of gnosis through trance or ecstasy. This can vary quite widely based on the tools available to them: intoxicants like alcohol and psychedelics are commonly used when available, but so are other things such as dance, drumming, trance, meditation, prayer, breathwork- anything that can induce an altered state of consciousness. Third, these traditions tend to focus on developing knowledge of uncertain (occult) phenomena with an eye to manipulate them. Most commonly this includes, health/sickness of an individual, community or landscape; weather patterns, interpersonal relationships, and what might be broadly called "spiritual development:" physical, intellectual, emotional and interpersonal training to act more effectively. Does this mean that all cunning folk employ the same means, or are derived from a single, primordial tradition? No, that would be pretty absurd. There are clear historical lineages for different practices and trying to big-tent all of them under one thing or another needlessly simplifies them into cartoon versions of themselves.
What chaos magic's perrenialism is hinting at is that, in a human body, there is a limited phase space of possible techniques that can be used to induce gnosis. These techniques covergently developed in similar contexts, with a number of different theoretical explanation for why they work. Some of these theories are useful, while others can be needlessly constricting. A good chaos magician would be wise to draw from any and all traditions that seem to work for them, let go of the aspects of those traditions which contradict their own experiences and continually tests the waters to see if they can create something new. As with any creative endeavor, each practitioner must strike a balance between tradition and creativity, based on their own goals and abilities. As one's skills develop and needs change, this balance will change over time.
thanks fo sharing!
I like! Why focus on if you are doing a ritual right and tools? Shamanism has the right idea, trust the spirits and the spirits will protect you.
Glad you enjoyed it, Kyle!
Back in the 2000's i used to participate in a chaos magick forum, wich was full of content. Discussions were intense, and there was people from all around the world and all ideologies. From there i came to know some things that helped me in my professional artistic work (since i am an artist) and in my own construction of an explanation of the universe. This has been very useful, and through time i've come to construct some personal rituals that help me deal with my own stuff in my everyday life. Thanks Angela for all the great content you are sharing. See ya! 👽
Yes chaos magic system have found one trick which really is one of the bace of all mystic and religious mystic things.
There are many techniques like this in sanatan system. Some of them are super easy. But these tricks should be used properly else they may back fire.after e.g after chaos state of mind we should focus again on the desired object and then be positive and back to chaus state and forget.
If one don't be positive or thoughts of mind is running like river then thoughts may steel the energy of the chaos state.
Whole magic is depends on this.
interesting take, thanks.
In essence the special state is mind ego intellect is the creators power.
If one knows it and do it. One don't even need any symbol sign etc.
But here one tricky thing the the basic nature if energy. Electron proton neutron.
About which west religions don't give much info. So the creations nature is that which this system yet havens decided completely.
But it's already available in sanatan(hindu) system.
These small techniques is tantra the system of nature.
And this is a art which can be used for wrong purposes too
That's why it was kept secret by sages.
And advised to keep secret until one don't find worthy person
But these days I
This doesn't matter . But we should consider it too hoti some points in my opinion and understanding.
Also the 3 qualities of nature should bee known and it's use and it's problems.
Only the one can understand how our creation can be harmful too even if it's positive and good.
But how when it's again a complicated subject.
Which one can dig in to from sanatan.triguna system.