Every guide mentions swapping out glyph of HS for Cleave but don't mention WHEN we are supposed to do this? Do you mean like from instance to instance? Or is this more min-maxing for specific bosses? So if there are mobs to cleave down for a boss I would run glyph a cleaving? And then when I get to a single target boss I would swap it for the Heroic strike? Are you switching to cleave after every boss just for trash? etc
thanks for the video, i just ran simulations, and it shows that +8 str +8 crit gems would be better than +16 gems.. would love to know what u think about that? is the sim bad or would u confirm?
Is IT still good to buy the 8500g Ring? Or is IT only nice for prebis? Im Not the richest guy and dont want to buy gold.. :D I mean I got 12k gold but dont want to "waste" IT.. :D
Anyone know if in my rotation I run out of melee range to charge on cooldown? Also do I swap to berserker stance for recklessness? How is that optimally done if so?
Id dissagree with how much u value 4set in ST fights. If u manage rage well u wont use it. For pure ST id get agi arp exper chest and hit hands. It frees rings aswell, esp as A, so you can get much closer to the arp soft cap. Also as arms u dont want 26 expertise, i try to be around ~21 and works wonders
@@Rugsz Fury will top the meters in naxx, just like it did in tbc, Who cares what ur private servers dps is. fury sucked on tbc private servers too. U will see buddy
dont you think you can get phase 1 armor pen cap? with the titansteel destoryer and mace spec + battle stance is 25% armor pen from the get go+ if u get grim toll and executioner enchant u can get to soft cap no?
Mmmm im not full conviced about losing AP for more crit rating in a spec with natural crit rating or either a 2H axe with a lot agility, in lk the Warr can convert agility in AP too?
not sure if u mentioned but i heard a lot of rumbling about going tailoring/JC as warr since engi kinda lackluster. Benchwarmer til icc class tho sooo xd
@@Snxgur ye in fight club disc they were discussing how trash the haste glove ench is etc. when compared to a proc like tailoring or versatility of gemming with jc. ive only memed on warr a few times tho and they kinda worthless imo so no idea
Most rogue will go assassination early phases while warriors will go arms then probably swap to fury combat around the same time when they’re got enough gear
@@johnbear9978 combat still does more dmg than arms in p1, might as well bring a combat rogue with tricks than a arms war with uh well nothing, they do nothing lol
@@SergioSanchez-ig4uj increased bleed dmg commanding shout sunders good aoe for trash and offtank abilities for patchwerk as example. i think thats decent value (also demo shout if dk is mt on certain bosses)
@@zayikgaming604 I am talking about the pre-raid Glyphs, not about the talents. And still, Glyph of Mortal Strike increases the dmg done by said ability by 10%...
@@zayikgaming604 I would still go for 3/3 Improved MS even after getting the Tier 7 set bonus. Weapon Mastery is neglectable, especially when Arms can easily reach the expertise cap with 2/2 Strength of Arms talent, which increases the stat by 4.
Ure saying armor pen is not rly good on p1 but u put grim tol as a bis ? And the blue one with armor pen is trash u said ? I don’t rly get it
Every guide mentions swapping out glyph of HS for Cleave but don't mention WHEN we are supposed to do this?
Do you mean like from instance to instance? Or is this more min-maxing for specific bosses? So if there are mobs to cleave down for a boss I would run glyph a cleaving? And then when I get to a single target boss I would swap it for the Heroic strike?
Are you switching to cleave after every boss just for trash?
etc
If you get chestguard of the recluse...would you swap the tier chest out, and use the tier gloves to keep the 4p?
Thanks for the info dude, wotlk kebab sounds wild.
Ret paladin next, please.
thanks for the video, i just ran simulations, and it shows that +8 str +8 crit gems would be better than +16 gems.. would love to know what u think about that? is the sim bad or would u confirm?
Is IT still good to buy the 8500g Ring? Or is IT only nice for prebis? Im Not the richest guy and dont want to buy gold.. :D I mean I got 12k gold but dont want to "waste" IT.. :D
Dont cap exper, and gundark ring is better anyways. Aim for 21 exper unless in icc where u get 19 in full bis
@@eldengard23 thanks
isnt Heroes' Dreadnaught Battleplate bought with the token from nax????
You should be able to buy that token spending 80 emblems of heroism
Anyone know if in my rotation I run out of melee range to charge on cooldown? Also do I swap to berserker stance for recklessness? How is that optimally done if so?
Id dissagree with how much u value 4set in ST fights. If u manage rage well u wont use it.
For pure ST id get agi arp exper chest and hit hands. It frees rings aswell, esp as A, so you can get much closer to the arp soft cap.
Also as arms u dont want 26 expertise, i try to be around ~21 and works wonders
For how long is DMC Greatness BiS? Is there any other alternative?
I know leveling prot in dung is the play as warrior. But if i lack some tank gear, which would be better going fury or arms 70-80 dung spam?
i wanna know this too, which is better for dungeon cleaving?
@@appo8557 arms always better for cleaving than fury while leveling, fury needs gear
whats warrior optimal expertise/hit %/rating?
Do you think Warriors or Feral will do more dps phase 1 and 2
Feral
Can't decide between UH dk and fury Warr to main for wotlk, which do you think would have a funner rotation?
frost dk
Unholy DK has a funner rotation, warrior is one of the easiest and therefore kind of boring in comparison
@@stevesmith686 brother in what world you living in, unholy dk is one of the most boring "rotations" in the game, apply dots and jerk..
@@stevesmith686 Yeah no lmao. Unholy has one of the most standardized rotations ever made. Warriors at least get a little more randomized priority.
When's the spellhance bis list coming out
how do I make this list
t6 set bonus not worth it?
I want to play war but it seems trash until t9 😞
Just play it homie ❤️
nah don't play it. it's trash
@@Rugsz u said this at the start of TBC too, just stop trashing on warriors
@@Snxgur what
@@Rugsz Fury will top the meters in naxx, just like it did in tbc, Who cares what ur private servers dps is. fury sucked on tbc private servers too. U will see buddy
dont you think you can get phase 1 armor pen cap? with the titansteel destoryer and mace spec + battle stance is 25% armor pen from the get go+ if u get grim toll and executioner enchant u can get to soft cap no?
Its not worth it, crit is where its at till bis uld. Tested even as human for extra exper
you sacrifice alot for being soft capped that its not even worth in T7
do i still go axe even as human
Yeah, axe is far superior to sword/mace.
Mmmm im not full conviced about losing AP for more crit rating in a spec with natural crit rating or either a 2H axe with a lot agility, in lk the Warr can convert agility in AP too?
In other hand this gimme an idea to start
if u don't crit as arms you do no dmg so you do want to sacrifice some ap
Thanks for the video. Appreciate it man. What is the name of app or site you are using to make these lists?
Rugs. I fucking love you man. Signed your number one fan, Bossbabyy.
relaxxxxx bossbaby haha
@@Rugsz Forgive me king! Got me too hyped for wrath with all this new content hahah
^where fury madge
any reason you go haste on cloak and not agi?
if you want you can do tailoring which is bis for pvp too. otherwise you will have usually engineering and with that engi cloak enchant.
@@dobiusla8281u want bs jc on war, u need it to softcap arp in uld bis, so being engi in naxx not rly worth it
Kebab Wotlk you say...
love those videos ur pumping out
not sure if u mentioned but i heard a lot of rumbling about going tailoring/JC as warr since engi kinda lackluster. Benchwarmer til icc class tho sooo xd
Engi lackluster! Lmao what
wtf r u saying, LOL
@@Snxgur ye in fight club disc they were discussing how trash the haste glove ench is etc. when compared to a proc like tailoring or versatility of gemming with jc. ive only memed on warr a few times tho and they kinda worthless imo so no idea
@@NLGwotlkclassic engi enchant is bis
@@NLGwotlkclassic they say stupid shit that’s incorrect so sheeps copy it and go around saying it looking like idiots lol
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no point having an arms warrior since combat rogue brings the buff now and does more dmg in raids
Most rogue will go assassination early phases while warriors will go arms then probably swap to fury combat around the same time when they’re got enough gear
El famoso combat rogue without any arpen during naxx yes
?
@@johnbear9978 combat still does more dmg than arms in p1, might as well bring a combat rogue with tricks than a arms war with uh well nothing, they do nothing lol
@@SergioSanchez-ig4uj increased bleed dmg commanding shout sunders good aoe for trash and offtank abilities for patchwerk as example. i think thats decent value (also demo shout if dk is mt on certain bosses)
Hey Rugs! any BiS Lists for other tanks later? Like and Sub bro great content!
yea would like to see prot warrior bis
No Glyph of Mortal Strike? Are you kidding me?
From what I've heard the 2 set increases slam damage by 10% which makes slam a better ability to press than mortal strike. Unless you're moving.
@@zayikgaming604 I am talking about the pre-raid Glyphs, not about the talents. And still, Glyph of Mortal Strike increases the dmg done by said ability by 10%...
@@barneypanofsky1957 Yeah I have no idea. I would think too you'd wanna go 3/3 improved mortal strike + mortal strike glyph until you get 2 set right?
@@zayikgaming604 I would still go for 3/3 Improved MS even after getting the Tier 7 set bonus. Weapon Mastery is neglectable, especially when Arms can easily reach the expertise cap with 2/2 Strength of Arms talent, which increases the stat by 4.
@@barneypanofsky1957 Good point
Ive been watching all these Pre Bis guides and they are literally all wrong and mis leading ppl on what they should get and build.