The investigation into this will be called Ocean-Gate-Gate. Much bigger than Watergate it's an entire Oceangate. In all seriousness RIP to all 5 souls lost on board. A company charging a quarter million dollars per passenger is going to only draw VIP's and every safety precautions should have been made with redundancies. I hope the company has a lot of money because this is clear cut manslaughter negligence. The CEO died with the other victims so who knows if any others are liable?
I think they sign any right to compensation away, and that includes accepting the sub is prototype design and could fail resulting in death. They basically, did this under the same terms as climbing on their roof to get a ball.
Sub brief did a good breakdown of the vessel. TLDR, there are some major design problems and most likely it either shattered before it got to the floor or the glue that holds the metal pieces to the carbon fiber failed in the temperature and pressure. Basically everyone inside of the vessel was dead before they knew it. A preventable tragedy unfortunately.
The saddest part is they warned by multiple professionals that the sub would not hold up for along time..And it made alot of dives to those depths but eventually wear and tear took control.
In any new exploration there are risks. But I have to say that for $250,000 I would want more than a game controller you buy at Walmart. People keep talking about O2 but CO2 poisoning, dehydration and hypothermia can kill you too. When I did my advanced diving course we had to do math counting backward from 100 by 3's and writing it on a slate to show us how the CO2 started effected us. Well, the electrical engineer started having issues in the 50's. I got down to the end but couldn't remember why I was doing it.
@@masterkent1 I'm sure OceanGate has catalogued the data: It takes 23 heating cooling and pressure cycles for 5" carbon fiber to catastrophically fail at 6000 psi...onto the next experiment, any volunteers? (Read today that their first hull prototype imploded in the lab at Washington University)
@@dgbebb1Under what pressure did it implode? Not being disrespectful, just wondering why people think that the sub was not safe. These men had a lot of dives between them. How many flights into space occured without incident? Every frontier requires risk
Great video! Your channel is awesome,very informative and I love the detail and the way you narrate. Keep up the great work! So glad I found your channel!
@@justinhorn2864 Tickets were a quarter of a million per passenger. WTF does diversity have to do with it? They were all rich billionaires. Brain worms have infected so many people it's disgusting.
The rescue team is insane. I’m glad everyone was willing to help, it’s sad they were never found or even possible that their remains will not be found. This underwater journey was doomed from the start. I also just learned that if they had made it successfully, they would see the titanic on a monitor inside. Not worth it at all.
The amount of support; domestic and international brought a tear to my eye. It’s truly incredible the technology we’ve come to have nowadays and seeing the efforts between countries gave me so much hope. Sure it’s probably because they’re rich people but still…
If I was that kid I’d be so mad at the pilot I’d choke him out for not mitigating risks make me sign a disclaimer but my disclaimer is punishment by death 😂 you had 1 job !
I think it very likely imploded, but I think if they search long enough they may find it. The issue is long enough could be a few months and I’m not certain they’ll bother with that cause it costs millions per day
Ya the proprietary tech for real time hull detection... I want to know about that too! Since the ceo clearly had 100% faith in his 4 system ballast and the hull monitoring system to keep him alive
This is NOT the same arrangement as Apollo 1. Apollo one had a 3 piece hatch that used ratcheting latches and WAS able to be opened from the inside. The reason the couldn’t get it opened in time was because it was a plug hatch meaning it opened inward (another huge difference) so until the pressure equalized, it was impossible. Also the fire heated it up so much, the pad crew were burning their hands trying to handle it.
People are paying $250k per seat on this thing and they decide that the best way to control the sub was with a wireless off-brand controller worth $30. Like they couldn't be bothered to spend the money on backup controls or even another $20 for a more reliable controller.
Although the controller was a cheap way to go about it its not why they are all dead. It's because they made the hull of carbon fiber that would shatter into a million peices after a certain amount of pressure
UPDATE: So turns out there were no banging sounds. US Navy found the wreckage on day one. They just needed to manage the news cycle because of Hnuter Bidet.
More proof that that in today's world, wealth has little to do with intelligence and hard work. These people paid 250k each to dive extreme depths in a largely untested experimental submarine. They will then take turns looking out of a 12 inch window, in murky waters, to see a wrecked boat at a distance. While I have sympathy for their families, This was dangerous idiocy on so many levels. Nothing more than bragging rights at the rich boy's billionaire club. With so many people homeless and hungry, I would be ashamed to tell people I wasted 250k to take turns looking at a wrecked boat through a small window. These wealthy people would brag. Vanity to the extreme.
It is their money to do with as they please. Have you ever spent your own money on something that you are interested in instead of donating it to charity?
@@williamegler8771 while that's a very good point, it is their money after all... I have to add some points. 1: Let's not act like taxation laws aren't an absolutely atrocious mess that allow some to become extremely wealthy on the backs of their employees and tax payer funded infrastructure and expenditure. Without taxes from regular people, those billionaires would never be able to make their fortune and most people give a significant percentage of their income to tax, whereas billionaires rarely (or never) pay anything close to that same percentage despite their immense income. 2: Most regular people do not have excess money to make a difference with. Sure instead of dinner and movies a couple times a month, a regular person could donate $200 to a charity but we both know a billionaire still eats and lives like a king even if they spent $250,000 on recreation. I'm not saying they should give money away instead of spending it on their interests (like you said it is their money), just that the dynamics involved are completely different when you're comparing a billionaire and a regular person donating money. As an example of the true magnitude of that kind of wealth, here is an example. If you were given $1,000 every single day since Jesus was born until the present day... you still wouldn't be a billionaire and yet after 10 years of saving that much money you could live a lifetime in luxury without ever working. My point mainly being that a billion dollars is a simply staggeringly mind boggling amount of money for an individual to possess and it's very existence necessitates that others will go without and yet that individual has the power to improve the lives of endless numbers of people. In basic terms, hoarding that much wealth is fundamentally selfish and immoral simply because of its size.
We would love to hold on to hope but with only about 7 hrs of air left and knowing it would take at least a couple hrs to resurface from the ocean's floor I think we all need to start praying for those 5 souls & their families sad days ahead.
Thank you for your timely and unbiased information. After the fact,all we can do is strive to learn from previous mistakes. The sorrow the surviving family members have is felt.
Sad to say, unless a submersible asset with the capability of Titanic's depth was mobilized the instant they knew there was a problem, there is no chance of retrieving the crew alive.
What good would that do? They could not open the hatch, could not give them air. If they could help to hook a towline up that may be the ticket but no getting crew out without bringing this one to the surface. Oh you are thinking they could have found them. They would have a better chance certainly. I wonder how many subs are in the area.
@@nbrown5907 Any submersible they send down would have to have manipulator arms to even attempt a rescue. And they would have to have already started the attempt to have any chance of succeeding given how long it takes to go down to that depth and come back up. And given that we have no idea to their current state, there just isn't enough time to MacGyver a solution if the problem is anything more than a dead battery.
The explorers club sounds like the super adventure club from south park, the super adventure club was rich people going around the world molesting kids, there is alot of truth in that episode. These rich people are sick and twisted the ceo is a typical woke, asshole who hated white people. Imagine if the ceo wasnt on the sub, wow he would be in some deep shit, o wait
This is so sad, no matter everyones opinion on how stupid or preventable, its still tragic and i cant imagine how that dad must feel/felt with his son there with him.
The word "tragedy" is often misused. A tornado, earthquake or plane crash is called a tragedy. No - it's just a lot of people getting killed by random fate - wrong place, wrong time. The deaths of these five people, and make no mistake if they're not dead already they are as good as dead, absolutely fits the classical definition of tragedy, in which someone comes to grief due to their fatal flaw(s). I see two things at play: hubris and avarice. Hubris is thinking that the extremes that nature, in particular the sea and especially the sea at great depths, doesn't want to kill you all the time, particularly the moment you get arrogant and compacent about its power. Hubris is about building a deep sea submersible with a pressure hull of carbon fibre (it's new and sexy) and firing the engineer who raises substantial doubts about its safety at such depths. Hubris is making an experimental and uncertified vessel into a pleasure jaunt to the deeps for the uber rich, which leads us to: Avarice. C'mon, kids, we can make a deep sea submersible in my dad's garage and sell trips to people with more money than sense. And who buys these $250,000 per seat trips? People with avarice! Who cares how many people they exploit around the world to get their millions or billions, they're our people and can well afford to throw a tiny bit of their fortunes at us for status and bragging rights. Avaricious people saying, sign me up! Go ahead and flame me, but this situation is truly "tragic" in the classical sense of the word. I wish the five no ill, in fact I hope the damned contraption has imploded - an instant death. But if they remain alive at this time with oxygen running out and perhaps in near freezing temperatures, I wonder if they'll think to reflect on how their fatal flaws brought them to such an end.
There is always hope. If they find it and it is tangled, they will try to dislodge it. It will only take 20 minutes to get to the surface - if they find it in time and intact.
Ya why not a beacon which could be activated by a manual switch/pulley/lever from inside which would activate and release the beacon which would float to the surface?
You’d think they’d send down a bunch of tethered communication equipment below each thermocline zone to act like communication satellites for that zone.
Amazing episode Tim! I’ve been glued to the news about this story and the same few facts are just regurgitated. You have come up with the most interesting background stories and spectacular images. Now my theory- at 6:54 of your video, that looks like a heck of a long span between tiny bolts to seal that door. Oring failure ala space shuttle Columbia! Oh, I also heard someone saying that there are actually 18 bolts but one of them was hard to reach so they only tighten 17 of them? Weird.
The early bird catches the worm. Great video. It is my theory that the Titan suffered some kind of malfunction, sunk below 13,100 feet, and was crushed like a tin can. (Yeah, the crush depth of the Titan is only approximately 13,100 feet, even though it goes down to 12,500 for a living. That is just scary.)
The early bird may get the worm BUT the second mouse gets the cheese. I have the feeling that this rescue operation is going to be a recovery operation. Scary situation to be in.
Let me get this straight; They have a sub which was tested to 3000 meters then sent to a depth of almost 1000 meter deeper. The crew was literally "BOLTED" in. The interior controls were a video game hand controller. There were no interior emergency rebreathers. Nobody knows how CO2 buildup is scrubbed. They would not hire any actual submariners because they didn't want "White 50 year old's". And the list goes on. Well, shucks, I can't see anything which could go wrong.
That's how misinformation works....take random statements out of context and imply something horrible...like "he didn't want to hire white people" which he did...or "he didn't want to hire vets" and all the people with absolutely no knowledge of submersibles suddenly think they are experts "helping the investigation" by endlessly posting negative nonsense they have absolutely no idea of the accuracy of. Yall make me sick to be human.
The ceo was an idiot oh and explorers club sounds alot like the super adventure club on south park where rich people went around the world molesting kids, hmm some truth in that i think
The best recap I've seen on youtube, what angers me is that Rush didn't listen to experts and minimized the risk just to get people in the craft that had money. He claimed that he was told carbon fiber can't be done and that he did it---did what? He did use carbon fiber and it imploded....the hull monitors I heard don't measure wear over time, just if there's a change from it's current condition so there could be weakening and not know. The gaming remote was the least of the red flags to me.
Excellent video but I'm going to refrain from adding my 3 cents other than to say we owe our safety to the people that died in horrible ways before us that gave us regulations like the Titan ic did. Happy Summer Soltice.
If I understand correctly, they used radio for communications? Why they don't use an acoustic digital telecom. device? Basically, something, like a good-old land-line modem, but with ultra-sonic carrier frequency? I believe, something like this is used on a military submarines since 1930-s (not digital, off course, back then).
I served on a Los Angeles-class attack submarine long ago. This has been very hard for me. I remember ascending in the water tower in Groton Connecticut wearing my Steinke hood. Death by implosion is it terrifying thought.
@@stimproid No, they almost certainly already died in an implosion. It is almost impossible for them to be suffocating somewhere. The chances that this thing made it to the bottom intact are almost nil.
@@stimproid the complete loss of signal typically denotes loss of power. The thing has multiple systems built into immediately returned it to the surface in that case. It is far more likely that it suffered a catastrophic casualty rather than simply lost power and drifted to the bottom. I could certainly be wrong, but I don't think so.
Update: The 96 hour window has passed, but all reascue teams are still searching as fast as possible to recover the vessel and its occupants. We can only hope that if they did pass, it was peaceful.
Às long as there is something to see - even if it is just a big rust stain and bronze propellers - people will want to see it. I wonder how long and how many lives before we start hearing about "The Curse of the Titanic".
Great presentation, I've got a feeling this is gonna rocket your channel to where it belongs, the top, the CEO is a con man, and I would not be surprised if they knew this was doomed from the get go hence the disclaimer, BRAVO!
When reports came out that the Titian were missing, I saw some brief video of it's construction. As a retired manufacturing engineer, I saw problems right away. Long before it was reported to have failed. I guess if you convince yourself enough that you know more than exerts, some failures will crop up. Unfortunately, some failures you can't recover from.
What a shame people are going down there and messing with the site. It's the grave site of 1400 people. It's about as disrespectful as you can get in my opinion. It's one thing to send a robot down there and get some video and pictures and maybe a 3D scan of the wreck. That's as far as we should go though. Maybe not even that far.
people should learn from this, I mean if it is expected to lost signal being in an experimental submersible at those depths is something unthinkable for me, there have to be some signal amplifiers or something along the descent
The ship was poorly designed... Titanium hemispheres front and back, cylinder in between. The physics of the cylinder could allow it to be crushed like a beer can. Most disturbing was the dove shaped housing at the back end that appeared to be for cosmetic appearance that concealed access to the super structure where rescue lines or flotation devices might be attached.
a correction: this _has_ done a bunch of dives to the titanic, like 10 or 20? hard to tell exact numbers, but this is the third season this 'thing' has been in use, so they've been pretty lucky! but i mean, how long could it last?
there's interviews with a guy who went down with his son as well, and I just can't imagine lmao. they were sued a bunch of times by previous employees and clients for how jank it all is.
It's difficult to find definitive information on how many times this thing actually made it down to the depth of the Titanic. It appears some dives were aborted early and if it did make it down it was only two or three times. There are only 10 submarines in the world capable of reaching that depth. Nine of them have been certified by the Marine Technology Society. Guess which one wasn't. Even though the carbon fiber hull was designed to withstand the pressure at 4000 meters the integrity of the hull degrades with each dive. It's possible there were undetected stress fractures and the hull just shattered from the pressure.
The controller had nothing to do with why they died. It was because they decided to make the hull out of carbon fiber. Something that would shatter into a million peices under pressure
That’s not what happened on the Apollo accident at all. The issue was that they couldn’t get the door open because of the pressure difference between the interior and exterior. The environment was 100% oxygen. It’s doubtful they would have been able to survive even if that was not a problem.
Many docs I have watched have only mentioned the fact the bolts were on the outside was the reason they died. No documentary I watched mentioned the pressure difference. Even if there was one, by the time all the bolts were undone they would of all unfortunately, been dead anyway
I have a problem with a tourist industry diving on the Titanic graveyard. Sad for the people in that mini sub but they shouldn’t have been diving on it.
Well researched, written, and presented. The best recap and update on this topic.
Agreed. Great video - looking forward to more from this channel.
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The investigation into this will be called Ocean-Gate-Gate. Much bigger than Watergate it's an entire Oceangate.
In all seriousness RIP to all 5 souls lost on board. A company charging a quarter million dollars per passenger is going to only draw VIP's and every safety precautions should have been made with redundancies. I hope the company has a lot of money because this is clear cut manslaughter negligence. The CEO died with the other victims so who knows if any others are liable?
HahahaHAHA. Real knee slapper there, bud.
I think they sign any right to compensation away, and that includes accepting the sub is prototype design and could fail resulting in death. They basically, did this under the same terms as climbing on their roof to get a ball.
@@Iazzaboyce These waivers are often not the complete release of liability that people think they are.
Sub brief did a good breakdown of the vessel. TLDR, there are some major design problems and most likely it either shattered before it got to the floor or the glue that holds the metal pieces to the carbon fiber failed in the temperature and pressure. Basically everyone inside of the vessel was dead before they knew it. A preventable tragedy unfortunately.
The wreck they were exploring was a preventable tragedy.
I hope they were dead before they knew it. All of the alternatives are worse.
The saddest part is they warned by multiple professionals that the sub would not hold up for along time..And it made alot of dives to those depths but eventually wear and tear took control.
From my reading. The experts told them there was no data on a hull of carbon fibers endurance. Aka how long it would last. Now we have data
In any new exploration there are risks.
But I have to say that for $250,000 I would want more than a game controller you buy at Walmart.
People keep talking about O2 but CO2 poisoning, dehydration and hypothermia can kill you too.
When I did my advanced diving course we had to do math counting backward from 100 by 3's and writing it on a slate to show us how the CO2 started effected us. Well, the electrical engineer started having issues in the 50's. I got down to the end but couldn't remember why I was doing it.
4th programme watched today from the library. loved em all. thank you.,
Held together with zip ties and duct tape, this thing was a death trap and everybody in the industry knew it!
MacGyver would approve….
Yup!
Carbon fiber on a submersible meant to go 2 miles deep is a terrible idea
@@masterkent1 I'm sure OceanGate has catalogued the data: It takes 23 heating cooling and pressure cycles for 5" carbon fiber to catastrophically fail at 6000 psi...onto the next experiment, any volunteers? (Read today that their first hull prototype imploded in the lab at Washington University)
@@dgbebb1Under what pressure did it implode?
Not being disrespectful, just wondering why people think that the sub was not safe. These men had a lot of dives between them.
How many flights into space occured without incident?
Every frontier requires risk
Great video! Your channel is awesome,very informative and I love the detail and the way you narrate. Keep up the great work! So glad I found your channel!
A marvelously researched and narrated survey is this about the beleaguered Titan. Godspeed to those passengers and crew.
The media didn't cover that 55 people murdered on Juneteenth that's the black Fourth of July or hundreds that were hospitalized from gunfire
Better than the news. Thank you.
Great reporting
These 5 people will go down in history as one of the most bizarre, needless and horrific deaths at sea.
All for diversity
Yes, a heavy pricetag for having no common sense whatsoever and stupidity
@@justinhorn2864lmao what does that even mean?
They got what they ordered.
@@justinhorn2864 Tickets were a quarter of a million per passenger. WTF does diversity have to do with it? They were all rich billionaires. Brain worms have infected so many people it's disgusting.
The rescue team is insane. I’m glad everyone was willing to help, it’s sad they were never found or even possible that their remains will not be found. This underwater journey was doomed from the start. I also just learned that if they had made it successfully, they would see the titanic on a monitor inside. Not worth it at all.
Thank goodness there was one survivor
? One Survivor who would that be?
The amount of support; domestic and international brought a tear to my eye. It’s truly incredible the technology we’ve come to have nowadays and seeing the efforts between countries gave me so much hope. Sure it’s probably because they’re rich people but still…
this new youtube feature of recommending new channels is probably the first GOOOOOD thing youtube did in his life.
Hasnt recommendations been around for ever
I hope for a last min miracle but most likely they are not only dead but will never be found
If they are bobbing like a cork they will eventually wash up on a beach
If I was that kid I’d be so mad at the pilot I’d choke him out for not mitigating risks make me sign a disclaimer but my disclaimer is punishment by death 😂 you had 1 job !
I think it very likely imploded, but I think if they search long enough they may find it. The issue is long enough could be a few months and I’m not certain they’ll bother with that cause it costs millions per day
Thank you. This was really informative.
I am surprised that such experienced men would go on this submersible.
they do all kinds of stuff no one else does ,
We're gonna need a few more billionaires to go down and look for these guys
Wtf?
Concise and informative. Thank you
Excellent analysis of the situation so far.
nice work again, great vid, way more interesting and concise than these news reports withexcess waffle
Those 17 bolts as the only way out would be my first and last red flag i needed to not get inside that thing.
I would be interested in finding out how the pressure sensor designed for the hull that used sound actually was supposed to work.
Ya the proprietary tech for real time hull detection... I want to know about that too! Since the ceo clearly had 100% faith in his 4 system ballast and the hull monitoring system to keep him alive
Very informative thank you for this coverage sir
Omg……not to take away from what happened, but damn …… this narrator is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 . The voice, the look….I’m getting a Russel Crow vibe 😉☺️💪
why didn't they use a teather or have a buoy they could release
love the videos i hope you keep up the good work
I didn't get a notice this episode came out. Glad I saw it now. You do a great job! keep it up.
The cost of this operation is insane. This is all going to be taxpayer money.
as if billionaries dont have enough of our money already...
This is NOT the same arrangement as Apollo 1. Apollo one had a 3 piece hatch that used ratcheting latches and WAS able to be opened from the inside. The reason the couldn’t get it opened in time was because it was a plug hatch meaning it opened inward (another huge difference) so until the pressure equalized, it was impossible. Also the fire heated it up so much, the pad crew were burning their hands trying to handle it.
People are paying $250k per seat on this thing and they decide that the best way to control the sub was with a wireless off-brand controller worth $30. Like they couldn't be bothered to spend the money on backup controls or even another $20 for a more reliable controller.
i saw another video where they stated they have backup controllers. but yeah wouldnt trust that anyway.
Although the controller was a cheap way to go about it its not why they are all dead. It's because they made the hull of carbon fiber that would shatter into a million peices after a certain amount of pressure
Great video about the situation with background on it and the people on it, probably the most detailed video out about this
Thanks for your efforts and honesty brother, straight talking no bs
Very informative, thank you.
I believe for the exorbitant prices they paid they got their moneys worth
*The full Titanic experience*
Damn man brutal, but true.
UPDATE: So turns out there were no banging sounds. US Navy found the wreckage on day one. They just needed to manage the news cycle because of Hnuter Bidet.
More proof that that in today's world, wealth has little to do with intelligence and hard work. These people paid 250k each to dive extreme depths in a largely untested experimental submarine. They will then take turns looking out of a 12 inch window, in murky waters, to see a wrecked boat at a distance. While I have sympathy for their families, This was dangerous idiocy on so many levels. Nothing more than bragging rights at the rich boy's billionaire club. With so many people homeless and hungry, I would be ashamed to tell people I wasted 250k to take turns looking at a wrecked boat through a small window. These wealthy people would brag. Vanity to the extreme.
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It is their money to do with as they please.
Have you ever spent your own money on something that you are interested in instead of donating it to charity?
They didn't even get a window view, they had to observe through a monitor.
@@williamegler8771 while that's a very good point, it is their money after all... I have to add some points.
1: Let's not act like taxation laws aren't an absolutely atrocious mess that allow some to become extremely wealthy on the backs of their employees and tax payer funded infrastructure and expenditure.
Without taxes from regular people, those billionaires would never be able to make their fortune and most people give a significant percentage of their income to tax, whereas billionaires rarely (or never) pay anything close to that same percentage despite their immense income.
2: Most regular people do not have excess money to make a difference with.
Sure instead of dinner and movies a couple times a month, a regular person could donate $200 to a charity but we both know a billionaire still eats and lives like a king even if they spent $250,000 on recreation.
I'm not saying they should give money away instead of spending it on their interests (like you said it is their money), just that the dynamics involved are completely different when you're comparing a billionaire and a regular person donating money.
As an example of the true magnitude of that kind of wealth, here is an example.
If you were given $1,000 every single day since Jesus was born until the present day... you still wouldn't be a billionaire and yet after 10 years of saving that much money you could live a lifetime in luxury without ever working.
My point mainly being that a billion dollars is a simply staggeringly mind boggling amount of money for an individual to possess and it's very existence necessitates that others will go without and yet that individual has the power to improve the lives of endless numbers of people.
In basic terms, hoarding that much wealth is fundamentally selfish and immoral simply because of its size.
I love your stuff, Tim, but this, this video has to be one of the best you've ever done. Absolutely TOP NOTCH.
I am so glad that I came across your channel! You have a new subscriber!
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We would love to hold on to hope but with only about 7 hrs of air left and knowing it would take at least a couple hrs to resurface from the ocean's floor I think we all need to start praying for those 5 souls & their families sad days ahead.
Media needs to admit they are dead
This may not be history yet, but what a great episode .
Thanks... again
I just cannot believe there was no independent homing beacon on board. I'm no expert, but no one has even mentioned such a thing.
Thank you for your timely and unbiased information. After the fact,all we can do is strive to learn from previous mistakes. The sorrow the surviving family members have is felt.
Sad to say, unless a submersible asset with the capability of Titanic's depth was mobilized the instant they knew there was a problem, there is no chance of retrieving the crew alive.
Given how much air they had in the sub, they were likely already dead before this video posted.
What good would that do? They could not open the hatch, could not give them air. If they could help to hook a towline up that may be the ticket but no getting crew out without bringing this one to the surface. Oh you are thinking they could have found them. They would have a better chance certainly. I wonder how many subs are in the area.
@@nbrown5907 Any submersible they send down would have to have manipulator arms to even attempt a rescue. And they would have to have already started the attempt to have any chance of succeeding given how long it takes to go down to that depth and come back up. And given that we have no idea to their current state, there just isn't enough time to MacGyver a solution if the problem is anything more than a dead battery.
And this is assuming there wasn't a catastrophic hull implosion during descent, meaning they were already dead before we even knew this was happening.
The explorers club sounds like the super adventure club from south park, the super adventure club was rich people going around the world molesting kids, there is alot of truth in that episode. These rich people are sick and twisted the ceo is a typical woke, asshole who hated white people. Imagine if the ceo wasnt on the sub, wow he would be in some deep shit, o wait
This is so sad, no matter everyones opinion on how stupid or preventable, its still tragic and i cant imagine how that dad must feel/felt with his son there with him.
If by yourself you are resigned to the fate but, having your son looking into your eyes, questioning, is horrendous!
agreed
It's not tragic when people willingly take unnecessary and obvious risks and end up dying from it.
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it's tragic for the kid
Imagine paying $250K to relive the Titanic tragedy......
Though we now know what happened, you did an amazing job presenting the details. thank you. Hubris leaves a cloudy wake at best.
Cool video. Can you make one about the migrant vessel that was sunk off the coast of Greece a few days ago as well?
Another great video Tim!!!!!
Well done! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Thank you. 🙏🏼
The word "tragedy" is often misused. A tornado, earthquake or plane crash is called a tragedy. No - it's just a lot of people getting killed by random fate - wrong place, wrong time. The deaths of these five people, and make no mistake if they're not dead already they are as good as dead, absolutely fits the classical definition of tragedy, in which someone comes to grief due to their fatal flaw(s). I see two things at play: hubris and avarice.
Hubris is thinking that the extremes that nature, in particular the sea and especially the sea at great depths, doesn't want to kill you all the time, particularly the moment you get arrogant and compacent about its power. Hubris is about building a deep sea submersible with a pressure hull of carbon fibre (it's new and sexy) and firing the engineer who raises substantial doubts about its safety at such depths. Hubris is making an experimental and uncertified vessel into a pleasure jaunt to the deeps for the uber rich, which leads us to:
Avarice. C'mon, kids, we can make a deep sea submersible in my dad's garage and sell trips to people with more money than sense. And who buys these $250,000 per seat trips? People with avarice! Who cares how many people they exploit around the world to get their millions or billions, they're our people and can well afford to throw a tiny bit of their fortunes at us for status and bragging rights. Avaricious people saying, sign me up!
Go ahead and flame me, but this situation is truly "tragic" in the classical sense of the word. I wish the five no ill, in fact I hope the damned contraption has imploded - an instant death. But if they remain alive at this time with oxygen running out and perhaps in near freezing temperatures, I wonder if they'll think to reflect on how their fatal flaws brought them to such an end.
There is always hope. If they find it and it is tangled, they will try to dislodge it. It will only take 20 minutes to get to the surface - if they find it in time and intact.
Great,informative video.👍
Thanks for the info
If you think hiring a professional is expensive JUST WAIT till you hire an amatuer !
I cannot believe that the titan didnt a atleast a beacon to find it,
Water will muffle any beacon.
They can't that deep. BUT, they could have a beacon for when they surface
@@chapter4444 Hopefully they do surface, if the hull failed down there they won't.
Ya why not a beacon which could be activated by a manual switch/pulley/lever from inside which would activate and release the beacon which would float to the surface?
@@NoahJohnson7452 Well then a wireless release mechanism would work. It should be able to pass thru the hull.
You’d think they’d send down a bunch of tethered communication equipment below each thermocline zone to act like communication satellites for that zone.
Hmm...Titan and Titanic....tempting fate just a little too hard?
Amazing episode Tim! I’ve been glued to the news about this story and the same few facts are just regurgitated. You have come up with the most interesting background stories and spectacular images. Now my theory- at 6:54 of your video, that looks like a heck of a long span between tiny bolts to seal that door. Oring failure ala space shuttle Columbia! Oh, I also heard someone saying that there are actually 18 bolts but one of them was hard to reach so they only tighten 17 of them? Weird.
amazing how many people show up when there's a few billionaire's lives on the line... nonetheless, GREAT JOB!
I like your narration
Great videos new sub
The early bird catches the worm. Great video.
It is my theory that the Titan suffered some kind of malfunction, sunk below 13,100 feet, and was crushed like a tin can. (Yeah, the crush depth of the Titan is only approximately 13,100 feet, even though it goes down to 12,500 for a living. That is just scary.)
The early bird may get the worm BUT the second mouse gets the cheese. I have the feeling that this rescue operation is going to be a recovery operation. Scary situation to be in.
I thought the bottom was supposed to be 12,500 feet in this area? I'm amazed that they put a window that really doesn't look very reinforced.
@@SuperRedrum123 It is 12,500 feet at the Titanic, but in the area, it can be over 13,000 feet. Just enough to crush the Titan.
This channel has the most in depth data thus far on this story. Thank you for the details. New sub here brother.
Let me get this straight;
They have a sub which was tested to 3000 meters then sent to a depth of almost 1000 meter deeper.
The crew was literally "BOLTED" in.
The interior controls were a video game hand controller.
There were no interior emergency rebreathers.
Nobody knows how CO2 buildup is scrubbed.
They would not hire any actual submariners because they didn't want "White 50 year old's".
And the list goes on.
Well, shucks, I can't see anything which could go wrong.
That's how misinformation works....take random statements out of context and imply something horrible...like "he didn't want to hire white people" which he did...or "he didn't want to hire vets" and all the people with absolutely no knowledge of submersibles suddenly think they are experts "helping the investigation" by endlessly posting negative nonsense they have absolutely no idea of the accuracy of. Yall make me sick to be human.
Even was a wireless controller 🤡
The ceo was an idiot oh and explorers club sounds alot like the super adventure club on south park where rich people went around the world molesting kids, hmm some truth in that i think
Well done on the video.
The best recap I've seen on youtube, what angers me is that Rush didn't listen to experts and minimized the risk just to get people in the craft that had money. He claimed that he was told carbon fiber can't be done and that he did it---did what? He did use carbon fiber and it imploded....the hull monitors I heard don't measure wear over time, just if there's a change from it's current condition so there could be weakening and not know. The gaming remote was the least of the red flags to me.
Excellent video but I'm going to refrain from adding my 3 cents other than to say we owe our safety to the people that died in horrible ways before us that gave us regulations like the Titan ic did. Happy Summer Soltice.
it's sad to want to travel to the depths of tragedy, they have slept peacefully, do not disturb
Hello! I found your interesting channel yesterday! Would you be able to do some videos on some of the famous ship wrecks of the great lakes?
Tim, I miss you singing the introduction. Go back to your roots. You were pretty good! Jam and slam!
If I understand correctly, they used radio for communications? Why they don't use an acoustic digital telecom. device? Basically, something, like a good-old land-line modem, but with ultra-sonic carrier frequency? I believe, something like this is used on a military submarines since 1930-s (not digital, off course, back then).
No, they have (had) usbl acoustic system for short messages and position feedback when submerged.
I served on a Los Angeles-class attack submarine long ago. This has been very hard for me. I remember ascending in the water tower in Groton Connecticut wearing my Steinke hood. Death by implosion is it terrifying thought.
Sadly they will likely suffocate. At least implosion is quick.
@@stimproid No, they almost certainly already died in an implosion. It is almost impossible for them to be suffocating somewhere. The chances that this thing made it to the bottom intact are almost nil.
@@Rambam1776 It went to the Titanic 3 times previously and came back. What are you basing your implosion theory on?
@@stimproid the complete loss of signal typically denotes loss of power. The thing has multiple systems built into immediately returned it to the surface in that case. It is far more likely that it suffered a catastrophic casualty rather than simply lost power and drifted to the bottom. I could certainly be wrong, but I don't think so.
@@Rambam1776Also, it’s been reported that at the time of Titan’s last signal there was a sound of implosion recorded.
Update: The 96 hour window has passed, but all reascue teams are still searching as fast as possible to recover the vessel and its occupants. We can only hope that if they did pass, it was peaceful.
The sub imploded. It was a rapid event, allegedly.
One survivor thank goodness
Update. All important players knew it imploded 4ish hours after launch. So around noon on Sunday. This entire story is fake
@@NoahJohnson7452 Honestly, that's one of the most glowie/ internet troll names I've ever seen, so I'm not suprised it posted misinformation.
It’s time to let The Titanic rest in peace for eternity.
That is never gonna happen
never happen certain rich people will fuck it up for their own selfish ends
@@OR56 You may be right because there is greed and a whole lot of money to be made.
Às long as there is something to see - even if it is just a big rust stain and bronze propellers - people will want to see it.
I wonder how long and how many lives before we start hearing about "The Curse of the Titanic".
Great presentation, I've got a feeling this is gonna rocket your channel to where it belongs, the top, the CEO is a con man, and I would not be surprised if they knew this was doomed from the get go hence the disclaimer, BRAVO!
I'd agree with that, except he was on it. Unless this was his way of committing suicide, that theory doesn't hold up.
When reports came out that the Titian were missing, I saw some brief video of it's construction. As a retired manufacturing engineer, I saw problems right away. Long before it was reported to have failed. I guess if you convince yourself enough that you know more than exerts, some failures will crop up. Unfortunately, some failures you can't recover from.
We shall leave them as they deserve to be left, Marooned for all eternity at the bottom of a dead ocean...
Buried alive... Buried alive!
Don’t send a half cocked sub and crew down there. Least they join these 5 in going missing
What a shame people are going down there and messing with the site. It's the grave site of 1400 people. It's about as disrespectful as you can get in my opinion. It's one thing to send a robot down there and get some video and pictures and maybe a 3D scan of the wreck. That's as far as we should go though. Maybe not even that far.
people should learn from this, I mean if it is expected to lost signal being in an experimental submersible at those depths is something unthinkable for me, there have to be some signal amplifiers or something along the descent
The ship was poorly designed... Titanium hemispheres front and back, cylinder in between. The physics of the cylinder could allow it to be crushed like a beer can.
Most disturbing was the dove shaped housing at the back end that appeared to be for cosmetic appearance that concealed access to the super structure where rescue lines or flotation devices might be attached.
a correction: this _has_ done a bunch of dives to the titanic, like 10 or 20? hard to tell exact numbers, but this is the third season this 'thing' has been in use, so they've been pretty lucky! but i mean, how long could it last?
there's interviews with a guy who went down with his son as well, and I just can't imagine lmao. they were sued a bunch of times by previous employees and clients for how jank it all is.
Not many dives at all! I think only like 3 only 1 w passengers
How long could it last? Well, right up to the point it suffered an electrical casualty and had no way of resurfacing it seems.
It's difficult to find definitive information on how many times this thing actually made it down to the depth of the Titanic. It appears some dives were aborted early and if it did make it down it was only two or three times. There are only 10 submarines in the world capable of reaching that depth. Nine of them have been certified by the Marine Technology Society. Guess which one wasn't. Even though the carbon fiber hull was designed to withstand the pressure at 4000 meters the integrity of the hull degrades with each dive. It's possible there were undetected stress fractures and the hull just shattered from the pressure.
This was dive lucky number 4. They had other submersibles.
Is this like the Bermuda triangle mystery
Great coverage. Just a note that Titan has been down to Titanic around 20 times over the last 3 seasons, I believe.
Nope. This was the 4th dive. It has only been operating since 2018ish.
Hiring kids straight out of college, can pay them less than an experienced person.
The controller is a $30 Logitech controller. That is known for problems with connections great choice.
what does the controller have to do with communications?
@aya-lq9on They are using text messages. That's a computer. The controller is for controlling the sub.
The controller had nothing to do with why they died. It was because they decided to make the hull out of carbon fiber. Something that would shatter into a million peices under pressure
Rip sea wild life too, all those sonars gonna kill
This is absolutely terrifying!
The Apolo had its door opening inwards to simplify construction, and pure oxygen was used for breathing.
OceanGate... sounds suspiciously similar the "HeavensGate", and the end results are also similar...
That’s not what happened on the Apollo accident at all. The issue was that they couldn’t get the door open because of the pressure difference between the interior and exterior. The environment was 100% oxygen. It’s doubtful they would have been able to survive even if that was not a problem.
Yea he was a little off on that one.
Many docs I have watched have only mentioned the fact the bolts were on the outside was the reason they died. No documentary I watched mentioned the pressure difference. Even if there was one, by the time all the bolts were undone they would of all unfortunately, been dead anyway
The Coast Guards has not confirmed the banging yet. Why?
7 backup to drop it weights automatically nothing. Why?
Why No EPIRB found?
It was a logitech clone of a playstation controller
Carbon fiber is very weak under compression only strong under tension. Makes no sense not to use a titanium sphere.
I have a problem with a tourist industry diving on the Titanic graveyard. Sad for the people in that mini sub but they shouldn’t have been diving on it.
I didnt realize how recently the Titanic was found!
At least the Titanic got her revenge on the grave robber.
Hi know PH, been in contact with him lately hes a beautiful man!
This sub had done about 20 trips downt to Titanic before this one.