No offense to Tarantino, but yes without this "RE" wouldn't have been born. Pity about the pretty/cute female jewellery assistant though. 😢 However Chow Yun Fat acted his socks off in this movie - and his reaction to his friend's mugshot coming to life - amazing...
@@wisco9er536 that’s subjective. Infernal Affairs may not be the same as The Departed because of the names tied to it, but the former is as tight as movies can get.
@@wisco9er536 It's more than just exact copies, there's a reason why there was a brief period in which some Hong Kong directors made Hollywood films. In some films you could also see a John Woo influence, although I think that's for the better since I find his type of gunfights to be the superior type of cinetmatic action. Compare a shootout from a John Woo film from 1984-1992 to the Matrix lobby shootout and the shootout in Django Unchained's candyland.
Quentin borrowed the atmosphere and the realism (the characters getting shot). But I wouldn’t say he “stole” it. But if we are really going by concepts that have never been used before in cinema, then yeah. Sure. Good luck coming up with something totally new that hasn’t already been done in modern cinema.
How so? We see the ending of the fate of the criminals in reservoir dogs we don't, we see the robbery in dogs we don't, we see Mr pink running in dogs not this one, he only borrowed elements from this
I’ve seen both And i will tell you this City on fire is definitely better than the remake or rip off Resevoir dogs (at this point it doesn’t matter what y’all want to call reservoir dogs anymore)
Yup same actor mr Chow yun fat himself. Also Fu the guy that said don't say "surrender" to him (Mr Danny lee) also starred in the killer, Another movie where Mr chow yun fat is in it.
I don't know what is up with this insane idea that Reservoir Dogs is some rip off of this movie, at least from this scene alone. What, cause they both have a botched jewelry robbery? This clip is a huge, over-the-top spectacle of carnage. A prolonged shootout with the police in street. RD is a cat-and-mouse thriller driven by dialogue, character clashes, and being based around who has what information. Those are totally different tones and priorities.
You're right. Except for the whole central plot of both movies being the same (an undercover cop infiltrates a gang of thieves only to have second thoughts about his assignment when he befriends one of them), the moment at 2:30 where one of the robbers goes psycho and executes a woman is exactly identical to the way Mr. White described Mr. Blonde's rampage during the robbery (bang, bang, bang, bang), the shot at 5:03 basically copied exactly in Reservoir Dogs when Mr. White shoots up the cop car with two guns during the escape. And the climax of the two films is more or less identical with a few minor deviations. Don't play dumb. It's fine if you like Reservoir Dogs but at least call the movie what it is, a ripoff.Tarantino stole the whole concept of this movie, shot most of it in a warehouse because he was too cheap to actually depict the robbery (maybe he should have spent more of the budget on actually shooting the film instead of on licensing crappy old songs from the 70's for the soundtrack) and threw in tons of stupid pop culture references and pointless gore to make up for the weaknesses in his own script. That's been his formula ever since and to his credit he's used it very successfully, but he's one of the least original filmmakers who ever lived and is ultimately more concerned with appealing to his own adolescent jerk-off fantasies of violence than actually making a movie with substance. Even Inglourious Basterds, which was a very solid film for the most part and a welcome departure from his usual shlock, descends into silly, ridiculous carnage by the end. There are a lot more talented filmmakers than him out there but since he had that fat pig Weinstein pushing his movies and making moves for him for so many years he became one of Hollywood's golden boys. How convenient that he plans to retire now that his sugar daddy has been exposed as a degenerate and locked up.
@silversnail1413 it's fine if you don't like Tarantino, but to act like his movies aren't uniquely stylish or quality is delusional, just like if I called Tom Brady a hack quarterback. Tarantino's success and popularity speaks for itself. Also, your breakdown of the formula? Totally avoids the point I made about them taking a similar idea and going about it in wildly different directions. To say that because this one movie had a jewel robbery gone wrong no movie for the rest of time can have that premise is not a very intelligent take. Closed-minded and limits artistic expression. Even if two movies have a loose cannon character and a scene with double pistols. Kind of missing the big picture. Also, don't know if you watch movies, but the other element of "inside man has a change of heart," which Mr. Orange didn't, you nimrod; he died a cop who gave his life to take these criminals down, is an extremely common theme. Dances with Wolves, the Last Samurai, Avatar, District 9, etc.
Funny you should mention that. Tarantino said he liked the Indian movie "Kaante" better than his own Reservoir Dogs and that movie is basically a combo of City On Fire/Reservoir Dogs. Usual Suspects, and Heat. And because it's Bollywood there ought to be plenty of song numbers including one at least 10 out of the 13 that are about love. xD
He did rip it off. Or at least some elements. But it's the only one he is adamant about denying the whole thing. Probably because he still might get sued for it. The whole black suits thing is so from HK flicks like City on Fire and John Woo films which is so obvious. Him admitting he was heavily inspired wouldn't detract from Reservoir Dogs one bit.
In such a shitty situation when you know the only armed forces to save your bacon can be at least _5 minutes away,_ yeah, she was really stupid in pressing the alarm. 2:04 _Even more stupid of the alarm company to have a loud system instead of a silent one._ She got offed trying to protect the company's bottom line, as if they would care about her. *Relatable in today's world.*
@California Dreaming compare Tarantino's Hollywood publicity power with independant foreign distribution, the hollywoodian will alwayz 'win', that does not mean he is the good one. Also quality in the artistic domain has nothing to see with people's approval. It is not a competitive contest like sport or election, and very often those who commercially succeed are forgotten once they are dead, leaving room for great ambitious and difficult works to be those granted fame beyond extinction.
Some concepts may be the same, but Tarantino created a masterpiece with reservoir dogs, shot far more closely to resemble a classic play setting. City on fire is a pretty mediocre film by HK standards, the tension buildup, cinematography and most importantly the dialogue is far far below that of Resevoir dogs. Just listen to silly Christmas music overlay
peter studios the dialogue in reservoir dogs is far superior to that of city on fire as is the cinematography. I am a proud Hong Konger in my 30s, I grew up amidst the John Woo fever that captured the town’s spirit. Plot wise the two films does share some similarity but it’s so different in many other ways. I think you guys are just over critical of Tarantino and somehow see yourselves as having superior taste by liking a “foreign” film more.
I think both is pretty great in their own way. Reservoir Dogs was great for their dialouge and screenplay, and City on Fire was great for the drama and the action setpiece. and I love both of em :)
@@silentrevolver4600 I still prefer City on Fire more than Reservoir Dogs. It shows the realm, dark and gritty face of the battle between police and criminal, good vs evil, inside these battle there's "silent" hero who has no boundaries of what they are. They must be the gang, but they are not allowed to forget who they are, however they must face-up with threats of being caught by their team mates in the Police or being captured and tortured by their "fellows" gang member.
Chow Yun Fat and Danny Lee's on screen relationship is pretty awesome. 🤟👌👍 Between "The Killer" and this.
They were also in rich and famous and tragic hero which are also sequel
the real "reservoir dogs"
lol thats why i'm here
No offense to Tarantino, but yes without this "RE" wouldn't have been born. Pity about the pretty/cute female jewellery assistant though. 😢
However Chow Yun Fat acted his socks off in this movie - and his reaction to his friend's mugshot coming to life - amazing...
i don't see anything reservoiry or tarantiny in this scene
@@VitaliyMilonov i know. its great
@@htf5555 why?
Damn... even better than Hong Kong films nowadays.
80s Hong Kong cinema was one of the best in the world
Hong Kong cinema died in 94 - sadly.
@@dyniaz65and 90s which I think is better than 80s
@@Grandmastergav86nope. 97s to be exact but hk was still pumping out lot of masterpiece in the 2000s
@@Hkamerica2732000s, don't forget about Internal Affairs...
And after that, I don't know anymore....
Much better than RESERVOIR DOGS
At least they showed the Robbery😀😀😀
I guess QT was trying to avoid cliché.
@@HiVizCamo
By ultimately being the biggest kind
The Departed got made from Infernal Affairs another great hong kong movie. Thats how thz west makes grest movies
lol only two films... and the Americans made it way better
@@wisco9er536 that’s subjective. Infernal Affairs may not be the same as The Departed because of the names tied to it, but the former is as tight as movies can get.
Let's not forget Old Boy, A Korean movie was remade by Hollywood .
@@wisco9er536 It's more than just exact copies, there's a reason why there was a brief period in which some Hong Kong directors made Hollywood films. In some films you could also see a John Woo influence, although I think that's for the better since I find his type of gunfights to be the superior type of cinetmatic action. Compare a shootout from a John Woo film from 1984-1992 to the Matrix lobby shootout and the shootout in Django Unchained's candyland.
@@wisco9er536 I think Russia or soviet films are far superior to anything ever made
Quentin borrowed the atmosphere and the realism (the characters getting shot). But I wouldn’t say he “stole” it. But if we are really going by concepts that have never been used before in cinema, then yeah. Sure. Good luck coming up with something totally new that hasn’t already been done in modern cinema.
5:03 was ripped and put in Reservoir Dogs as the scene with Mr White taking out cops
Wow. Tarantino DID steal a lot of this!
How so? We see the ending of the fate of the criminals in reservoir dogs we don't, we see the robbery in dogs we don't, we see Mr pink running in dogs not this one, he only borrowed elements from this
@@evolvetrooper Borrowed heavily.
@evolvetrooper why are you trying so hard to cope for the fact 😂
@@timmccarthy5353 Nah he basically ripped the entire movie off and only cut the robbery scene.
If u wanna see the remake. ...watch reservoir dogs.
it's not a remake, more like a soft ripoff
If you wanna se the best remake, watch "Kaante"
@@justanormalguy9744 this is just like Lala land coping that one French film
Nah, don't bother.
I’ve seen both
And i will tell you this
City on fire is definitely better than the remake or rip off Resevoir dogs (at this point it doesn’t matter what y’all want to call reservoir dogs anymore)
The car engine sounds are like the same ones from Steve McQueen’s Bullitt.
Even assault on precinct 13 used the same car sounds
wait is that the guy that shot up the tea house in hard boiled 👀
Yup same actor mr Chow yun fat himself. Also Fu the guy that said don't say "surrender" to him (Mr Danny lee) also starred in the killer, Another movie where Mr chow yun fat is in it.
How do you crash the car so cleanly, and get out so quickly without being phased?
The original reservoir dogs movie
River Pandas
I don't know what is up with this insane idea that Reservoir Dogs is some rip off of this movie, at least from this scene alone. What, cause they both have a botched jewelry robbery?
This clip is a huge, over-the-top spectacle of carnage. A prolonged shootout with the police in street.
RD is a cat-and-mouse thriller driven by dialogue, character clashes, and being based around who has what information.
Those are totally different tones and priorities.
You're right. Except for the whole central plot of both movies being the same (an undercover cop infiltrates a gang of thieves only to have second thoughts about his assignment when he befriends one of them), the moment at 2:30 where one of the robbers goes psycho and executes a woman is exactly identical to the way Mr. White described Mr. Blonde's rampage during the robbery (bang, bang, bang, bang), the shot at 5:03 basically copied exactly in Reservoir Dogs when Mr. White shoots up the cop car with two guns during the escape. And the climax of the two films is more or less identical with a few minor deviations.
Don't play dumb. It's fine if you like Reservoir Dogs but at least call the movie what it is, a ripoff.Tarantino stole the whole concept of this movie, shot most of it in a warehouse because he was too cheap to actually depict the robbery (maybe he should have spent more of the budget on actually shooting the film instead of on licensing crappy old songs from the 70's for the soundtrack) and threw in tons of stupid pop culture references and pointless gore to make up for the weaknesses in his own script. That's been his formula ever since and to his credit he's used it very successfully, but he's one of the least original filmmakers who ever lived and is ultimately more concerned with appealing to his own adolescent jerk-off fantasies of violence than actually making a movie with substance. Even Inglourious Basterds, which was a very solid film for the most part and a welcome departure from his usual shlock, descends into silly, ridiculous carnage by the end. There are a lot more talented filmmakers than him out there but since he had that fat pig Weinstein pushing his movies and making moves for him for so many years he became one of Hollywood's golden boys. How convenient that he plans to retire now that his sugar daddy has been exposed as a degenerate and locked up.
@silversnail1413 it's fine if you don't like Tarantino, but to act like his movies aren't uniquely stylish or quality is delusional, just like if I called Tom Brady a hack quarterback. Tarantino's success and popularity speaks for itself.
Also, your breakdown of the formula? Totally avoids the point I made about them taking a similar idea and going about it in wildly different directions. To say that because this one movie had a jewel robbery gone wrong no movie for the rest of time can have that premise is not a very intelligent take. Closed-minded and limits artistic expression. Even if two movies have a loose cannon character and a scene with double pistols. Kind of missing the big picture.
Also, don't know if you watch movies, but the other element of "inside man has a change of heart," which Mr. Orange didn't, you nimrod; he died a cop who gave his life to take these criminals down, is an extremely common theme. Dances with Wolves, the Last Samurai, Avatar, District 9, etc.
@silversnail1413 Buuahh buuahh his movie has blood, I'm just so sensitive muuuuahh
Wonder if Tarantino got to seeing this film after being accused of ripping it off for his debut, "Reservoir Dogs", as he promised in a interview. 🤔
Ha.
Funny you should mention that. Tarantino said he liked the Indian movie "Kaante" better than his own Reservoir Dogs and that movie is basically a combo of City On Fire/Reservoir Dogs. Usual Suspects, and Heat. And because it's Bollywood there ought to be plenty of song numbers including one at least 10 out of the 13 that are about love. xD
He did rip it off. Or at least some elements. But it's the only one he is adamant about denying the whole thing. Probably because he still might get sued for it. The whole black suits thing is so from HK flicks like City on Fire and John Woo films which is so obvious. Him admitting he was heavily inspired wouldn't detract from Reservoir Dogs one bit.
@@chrichtonsworld1 and they ripped the suits from the Blues brothers
@@PottersBluffReviews no, he ripped the suit from John Woo's A Better Tomorrow 2
Had that woman not touch the rings the alarms wouldnt have gone off and the shooting start. They would have gotten away scott free but shit happens.
But did he really have to shoot her down like that
This film is impossible to find
Which dvd edition is this one?
That bird got it worse than anyone else
In such a shitty situation when you know the only armed forces to save your bacon can be at least _5 minutes away,_ yeah, she was really stupid in pressing the alarm. 2:04
_Even more stupid of the alarm company to have a loud system instead of a silent one._ She got offed trying to protect the company's bottom line, as if they would care about her.
*Relatable in today's world.*
1987.
tarantino stole from hong kong cinema
@California Dreaming Man that COVID-19 is getting to your brain I see.
“Great artist steals”
Yeah, he can’t come up with his own ideas. Even ripped off John Carpenters The Thing and called it, The Hateful Eight.
@@Williameagleblanket How is The Hateful 8 the same as The Thing?
Eric Steele
You’re right
Not just Hong Kong 🇭🇰
But also Chinese cinema 🇨🇳 and Japanese cinema 🇯🇵
it's not 'inspiration' Tarantino grasped into this film: he copied-pasted everything.
I know right! I'm a huge fan of Tarantino but this is shameful
Even though he copy of the city on fire, he proved himself in pulp fiction he can write original
kirk_lean skywalker what about True Romance? I don’t think that’s ripping off anything
@California Dreaming compare Tarantino's Hollywood publicity power with independant foreign distribution, the hollywoodian will alwayz 'win', that does not mean he is the good one. Also quality in the artistic domain has nothing to see with people's approval. It is not a competitive contest like sport or election, and very often those who commercially succeed are forgotten once they are dead, leaving room for great ambitious and difficult works to be those granted fame beyond extinction.
What exactly did he copy?
The subtitles don't do it justice "or ill kill you" should have been "or ill cripple you", which is way cooler!
Rindu film laga asia..seperti pemain2 nya chow yun fat jet lee jacky chan sekarang gk ada sih..adanya drakor
🔫🎬
Some concepts may be the same, but Tarantino created a masterpiece with reservoir dogs, shot far more closely to resemble a classic play setting. City on fire is a pretty mediocre film by HK standards, the tension buildup, cinematography and most importantly the dialogue is far far below that of Resevoir dogs. Just listen to silly Christmas music overlay
peter studios the dialogue in reservoir dogs is far superior to that of city on fire as is the cinematography. I am a proud Hong Konger in my 30s, I grew up amidst the John Woo fever that captured the town’s spirit. Plot wise the two films does share some similarity but it’s so different in many other ways. I think you guys are just over critical of Tarantino and somehow see yourselves as having superior taste by liking a “foreign” film more.
I think both is pretty great in their own way. Reservoir Dogs was great for their dialouge and screenplay, and City on Fire was great for the drama and the action setpiece. and I love both of em :)
Most of this scene was ripped off in RD. Even if what you're saying is true, they should have given credit to City on Fire.
You got it twisted, Reservoir Dogs is mediocre, City On Fire is a classic (RIP Ringo Lam). Do you speak Cantonese? I do, the dialogue is great.
@@silentrevolver4600 I still prefer City on Fire more than Reservoir Dogs. It shows the realm, dark and gritty face of the battle between police and criminal, good vs evil, inside these battle there's "silent" hero who has no boundaries of what they are. They must be the gang, but they are not allowed to forget who they are, however they must face-up with threats of being caught by their team mates in the Police or being captured and tortured by their "fellows" gang member.
Tarantino Slapped the shit out you guys then made millions.