I'm sorry dude, but no way Dixie Kong & Slippy Toad would be DLC. These characters don't sell DLC. You forget that every Nintendo character in the DLC was promotional in some way.
@@kyled.parksesq7263 Every DLC Nintendo character in Smash Ultimate were not only there to promote Nintendo games, but to specifically do that. Byleth was a character specific to the then recent Fire Emblem: Three Houses, same with Min Min for Arms and Pyra/Mythra for Xenoblade 2. Dixie Kong and Slippy are not only characters who've been around for a while, but aren't big name main characters in any degree (the only exception is Dixie being the main protagonist for DKC3, but that was decades ago). Unless either of them were to get what I call the Pauline treatment, where she had a super grand return in Odyssey and since then has been everywhere, I simply don't see it happening. While both would be cool and fun to play as, they aren't big enough names for DLC, paid additional content. Maybe in a base game, but not DLC.
I think Rayman has a high chance of being in the next game. Nintendo currently has a very good relationship with Ubisoft as they are making games together (Mario and Rabbids).
tbh he’s lowkey accurate with the list besides shantae, paper mario, and spyro as much as id love them in the game. shantae isnt too recognizable, paper mario over other mario reps seems less likely, and spyro? i wish. everything else i completely agree with as it’d the the nail for “ultimate smash bros”
Depending on the negotiations made for the 3rd party characters, they may not have to make new contracts. In racing games when they negotiate for cars with real life likeness, they buy rights for a number of years. If Sakurai got enough years, the work could already be done. Or, some contracts are done for a singular title. A remaster/re-release style may not need new contracts. For example, the NFS Hot Pursuit remaster by Criterion had all the old copyrighted music because it was the same title. Basically, its not as unlikely as people think.
I think the idea to built on top of Ultimate is not as easy as porting Mario Kart. You have completely forgotten about the fact that you need to renegotiate with every third party developer, and there are 11 companies that you must negotiate with. If it was Brawl which had only 2 third party companies involved I could see it happening, Smash 4 more than doubled that number (it has 5 companies) but outside of Square Enix I don't see much trouble, but Ultimate is a different beast, it's extremely difficult to repeat it because if only one company refuses, it's over, and three companies (Square Enix, Atlus and Disney) are extremely over protective with their IPs, problematic.
Yeah I definitely see that being a potential issue for a couple characters like Sora or Steve. I think realistically the better option would be to cut the roster down and create a new game, but that would take longer to develop. A deluxe version would be easier to develop, but like you said it would be more complicated because you need permission from every company again
@@ImarTuba Back in 2018 before Ultimate released, Sakurai tried to guess and said that, given the scope of Ultimate, we wouldn't get another smash game until at least 10 years from that moment. Keep in mind, this was WAY before Switch's lifespan got extended so he had no idea about how successful the system was going to be. Now Smash is a console seller so 10 years is obviously too much wait, but provided that Switch keeps selling until 2026 (in other words, coexisting with the successor for a couple of years), people would still be able to play Ultimate which makes waiting for Smash 6 A LOT EASIER.
@@MarshtompGames Wait, what? Then how did Snake returned for Ultimate? I know that was the reason he was absent in Smash 4 but he somehow returned for Ultimate.
I’m still extremely surprised that they didn’t add monster hunter as a dlc with Rathalos being a boss/assist trophy and having it be perfect promotion for when rise came out as a switch exclusive. Looking back at the every new character added in ultimate, I never really had a fighter who I truely had a connection with, so yeah that’s all I really want
Both Sakurai and Capcom spokespeople have been _very_ open about how they want Monster Hunter to be represented by the monsters themselves, not the hunters. Similar to how Pikachu is added whenever Pokemon needs a rep for some crossover instead of Red or Cynthia or whatever.
@@robofistsrevenge3288 Speaking of Capcom We need these Capcom Characters to show up in the next Smash Game Phoenix Wright Jill Or Leon From Resident Evil Morrigan From Darkstalkers Viewtiful Joe Arthur From Ghost And Goblins Amaterasu From Okami Frank West From Dead Rising Captain Commando Ect.....................................................
@@novasZK He’s ironically the most likely character to get added out of all the other Capcom characters listed above due to having a Mii Costume (maybe alongside Jill or Leon since they had a whole Spirit Event for the Resident Evil characters)
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For me personally, I would like to add more retro characters like Billy and Jimmy Lee from the Double Dragon series, Bill and Lance from the Contra series. Maybe also add Lara Croft from the Tomb Raider series as well. It would be nice to have at least one character from Killer Instinct.
Uh, Sakurai has said in his TH-cam channel that they've reached the limit of game. If your point is true, the question should rather be why there are no new DLCs this year.
Isn't Donkey Kong Jr. removed from the current series canon? If you want him to return, you should ask Nintendo to make a new game that can properly re-introduce him in a new role first. At this point what matters is that the removed character isn't the most significant character through out the whole franchsie. Otherwise we can say the same thing to Wart and Stanley.
Speaking Of Donkey Kong Jr. Bring Back Diddy And K. Rool in Smash 6 That plus throw in these DK Reps DIxie Kong Cranky Kong Funky Kong The DK 64 Crew (Chunky, Lanky, Tiny) Lord Fredrik From Tropical Freeze Stanley The Bugman From The 80's DK Arcade Games Ect..........................................................................
@@dylansmith5206 already say, the regular games should be used to explain the canon, not crossover. Crossover are usually noncanon so it'd definitely cause confusion. Besides we also had Super Mario Movie, wasnt that also a neat chance to reintroduce characters?
this was a highly enjoyable watch, I think you're predictions are highly based. haha. I bet you get a good amount right too. would love to see the route 1 potential video...although if you're sane you want route 2! I think they should always take route 2, each time make it the new most epic videogame ever, and let the story mode be what gives each entry it's unique identity. they could even add less than 5 new characters to the base game each time, so long as we get dlc and a new bell and whistle here or there, along with that new story mode. new sub 🎉
Speaking of Zelda Please Give me some new Zelda characters in Smash 6 that aren't just more Link, Zelda, Or Captain Falcon Clones Plus please give me some Zelda Newcomers that aren't just more alternate versions of Link Or Zelda Give Me Skull Kid From Majora's Mask Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Impa From Hyrule Warriors Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha Ect.......................
Not really banned, it's just not sold over there due to all the restrictions on CERO's part. If NetherRealm really wanted to sell it they'd have to tone down the violence a lot all for an audience that would rather play SF or Tekken. So of course they don't even want to bother with that. But yeah, Scorpion is still a stupid request despite how cool it may be.
You guys forgot who the main character in mortal kombat has always been in every story mode. If a mortal Kombat character gets added, it will most likely be Liu Kang.
I don’t know much about licensing and or the character approval process for those that are owned by 3rd party companies. However, I would imagine having that same game like Ultimate and just expanding the roster (maybe Sakurai even making a few more 3rd pary deals), is the cheaper and better way to go here. We have to remember that for a long while a balance needs to be kept between Sakurai & and the demand of the fan base. A new game all together just simply isn’t in the cards right now
Sakurai has said in his TH-cam channel that they've reached the limit of game. So it's safe to say what they can do is start a new game with same size but different contents. And many people just need a new game to offer the chances for their dream characters and game series. Why do we have to keep the old game?
I would definitely love another Monster Hunter addition like an actual fighter and not a boss and map like you have the hunter who already has an expanded set of moves to use
This is what I would predict for a smash 6 : 10 new characters being Terrarian, Raymman, Waddle dee, Tails, Zoroark, King boo, Magolor, Cranky Kong, Dixie kong, and Crazy dave Wave 1 would be :Geno, Slippy, Spyro, Roblox Noob, and Undyne Wave 2 would be :Waluigi, Phoenix right, Chorus kids, Shadow, and Crash
What series is tails? Also I think Waluigi would just be in base game. Mario series already existed in Smash so we don't need more DLCs to expand it, which would offend Mario fans.
My personal pick for third party characters: 1-Crash dont need to explain 2-Rayman also no brainer 3-Doomslayer/doomguy father of fps 4-Masterchief x box mascot 5-gordon freeman or a tf2 merc( i would personaly chose demoman but heavy or scout could also work) to represent valve, indie games in general and multiplayer fps games as a whole if tf2 is the chosen one. 6-a playstation character because crash isnt sony property no more😂 probably astrobot 7- unrealistic but i want conker XD
I also really would love to see Impa, based on her Age of Calamity move set. She is a popular character in that game, and Zelda is LONG overdue for a newcomer and Impa is the only solid option.
The current Zelda reps themselves have a lot of problems, the links are just copy pasted with *slightly* different attributes, ganon is a slower captain falcon clone, sheik and Zelda are fine the way they are tho.
@@NetherKingVulcannus not disagreeing there. However, am pretty sure Ganondorf will be restyled after TOTK next Smash. There's no reason not to. I'd like Link to receive those two handed sword Smash attacks too, and agree with all other changes proposed to Young and Toon Link, however ngl I could do without them and Sheik, especially if it means room for newcomers. Impa being the front runner here. Zelda restyled after TOTK would be great too. In general, remix the Triforce duo and remix Sheik into Impa, then maybe consider semi clones as Young / Toon Link. Pig Ganon is also a cool idea.
Speaking Of Impa Give me these Zelda Character's in Smash 6 (That aren't Link, Zelda, Or Captain Falcon Rip Offs) Skull Kid From Majora's Mask Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha, Urbosa Ect.......................................
What I want for smash ultimate deluxe= - Buffs= King DDD - down special cancel before max KING K ROOL - sweet spot neutral special PIRAHNA PLANT - double input side special BOWSER - stronger blue fire at zero percent RIDLEY - super armor down special GANONDORF - charge up special range Lil Mac - side special resets after being hit Dr Mario - random poisoning pill (1/4) Yoshi - make side special shield break Donkey Kong - aerial side special spikes - Daisy - counter poison effect Dark Samus - 1.25 lighter/ 1.25 faster - Nerfs= Pikachu - up throw angle changed Kazuya - down special two try cancel Steve - minecart end lag animation 2x Joker - arsene drains faster after 100% Sonic - more up special end lag - Base Echo Birdo - Yoshi (melee: heavier less recovery) Dixie Kong - Diddy Kong (krool recovery) Octoling - Inkling (sprinkler down special) Dry Bowser - Bowser (lighter / >100 🔵🔥) Louie - Olimar (red rock pink white pikman) - Echo Pack Hector - Ike (.75 reach, 1.25 knock back ) Shadow - Sonic (joker neutral B) Ms PAC Man - PAC man (throws hydrant) Rex - Pyra & Mythra (shulk down special) Heroine - Hero (1/4th crit, 1.25% lighter ) - Base new characters Waluigi King Boo Rillaboom Bandana Dee Geno - DLC Pack Frogger (pre-purchase) Bentley Bear 2B Ray-Man Crash Bandicoot - DLC Pack 2 Dante Dr Robotonik Subzero Ryu Hayabusa Master Chief
Speaking of Link, Ganon, And Zelda Please give me these Zelda Newcomers Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Impa From Hyrule Warriors Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha Skull Kid From Majora's Mask Ect..................................
Speaking of Your Link Profile Profile Picture Speaking of Skull Kid Please give me these Zelda Newcomers Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Impa From Hyrule Warriors Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha Ect.................................. Also. Fuck Joker Coming Back! No one gave a Shit About Joker being in Smash before Ultimate was a thing (Since Joker is bland boring as shit character with Zero personality, wit, or charm)!! And no one was begging for Sakurai to add Joker in Smash Before Ultimate was a thing!
I don't agree with the idea that the next game would be a "Deluxe". The reason they did a lot of these was because of the commercial failure of the Wii U. They ported these games as "Deluxe" to the Switch so that those games could reach a wider audience with the success of the Switch. If they were going to do that for any game, it would have been Smash 4 being the Deluxe as it ports to the Switch. The Switch already has a lot of sales, and a lot of people owning Smash Ultimate, so there's no need. They typically build off of the previous Smash game when developing the next game anyways. Brawl was built of of Melee, Smash 4 was built off of Brawl, and Ultimate was built off of Smash 4.
Speaking of Smash 4 Please Oh Please Add in The Smash 4 for 3DS Single Player Mode that should have been included in Smash 4 For Wii U and Ultimate Please Give me Smash Run for the love of Cinder
I think they would also add cuphead since the creators wanted him in smash, but they had to wait for the creator to improve him as a fighter (I can’t believe that they gave him the mii treatment 😭)
Oh cool, nice to know the moment I've finally gotten a Nintendo Switch OLED, and am really getting interested in Smash Ultimate it might be replaced. Fun. Edit: I just hope that if they do make a Smash Ultimate Deluxe and put it on a new console that Smash Ultimate maintains a playerbase and/or competitive scene for people who don't want to buy a Switch Pro
Well assuming it actually is just a deluxe ver. Then It will pretty much just be the same game with dlc And if it's just a "Switch Pro"...that's also implying that it's just a more powerful version of the switch that's already available. So you honestly have nothing to worry about
I predict Geno, Rayman, Skull Kid, Armarouge with Ceruledge echo, Tails and Shadow (who is a Sonic echo), Isaac from Golden Sun and Akira from Astral Chain.
Speaking of Skull Kid Please give me these Zelda Newcomers Ghirahim From Skyward Sword Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess Zant From Twilight Princess Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset) Vaati Impa From Hyrule Warriors Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha Ect..................................
The Deluxe Wii U ports made sense on the Switch. Most gamers didn't have a Wii U and you couldn't fit a disc drive on the Switch so backwards compatibility wasn't an option. Why would they make Deluxe ports of Switch games on the successor? If it has backwards compatibility having a port would be redundant, and having a small card as the Switch's physical game size would be easy to put on the next device. Even if it doesn't have backwards compatibility (which wouldn't make much sense), the Switch is currently the 3rd best selling platform of all time and many people already played Smash Ultimate. With a system seller like the Smash Bros. franchise wouldn't they want to make a new game to entice a larger audience? Making a port would be a turn off for many people that already played it on the Switch even with a few new bells and whistles.
Ngl.. a lot of these choices feel..too safe. I do find it hilarious that out of all the times that Sakurai has said he was done, we didn’t believe him. Now that he kinda soft confirmed a game we suddenly believe him now? Weird. So if we’re going to believe Sakurai..wouldn’t make sense to have a smaller roster? He even said a number of times getting the rights to some of those characters would be hard and we SHOULD expect a smaller roster. Interesting choices for DLC but that base roster spot..needs help
Speaking Of Pit Please Oh Please Put in A Kid Icarus Character that isn't just another evil Satanic Demonic Pit Clone Give me Hades Medusa Viridi Phosphora Magnus Eggplant Wizard Ect......................................
My personal base roster going off of your criteria would be Bandana Dee, Kamek, Excitebiker, Meowscarada (even tho it would be great to have N) and Rayman, a character more closely associated with Nintendo and its style of games. Crash is such a massive pick, I'd save him for DLC.
Your dlc roster is nearly perfect. But I would change one thing. I don't see Scorpion or any MK character getting in, I'd remove him and put Master Chief in his spot. He's not big in Japan, and can't end it with him, but is an icon that I think needs to be in Smash. As for the final slot, because of the resent remake. The highly requested character Geno should be that final fighter.
With the success of elden ring and the fact bandai namco was involved (also it has a Japanese developmrnt team) so I reckon tarnished has a pretty good chance
I would actually love to see a much more trimmed down Smash, assuming we do get a future entry. 20-30 fighters, no third-party fighters, no echoes, a balance of fighters from each series, meaning not having half the roster be Fire Emblem. But, I think we do need to entertain the idea that we may never get another Smash game, and that would be fine. Ultimate is a great one to end on.
Full roster: 11 new characters (so it adds up to a perfect 100). Base game: 5 characters Waluigi Dixey kong (echo fighter) Bandan waddle dee Shadow (semi echo fighter) Crash DLC Pack (6 final characters): (New Nintendo franchise) Scorpion (New gen Pokemon rep) Kratos Chun Li or Akuma Master Chief. Perfect 100 character roster. Adding at least 2 echo fighters was necessary. As for some other requests,: Eggman becomes a boss like marx and Dracula. Tails would replace Shadow's assist trophy. Slippy and Peppy would become skins for fox and falco like intended. Spyro would become a spirit and nothing else. Screw baloon fighter. Shante's already represented as a spirit and a mii fighter. As for paper mario.............RIP . Idk maybe an assist trophy.
While I don't think the current game can be expanded, the problem is Smash Ultimate is already oversaturated with Mario characters so it cannot get more. A new Smash would rather be a better chance to insert new Mario additons like Waluigi and Birdo when the old ones are cut.
Look the reason why I think a new game is more likely in order for a deluxe game to make sense the next console can not be backwards compatible but people want backwards compatibility but If the next switch was backwards compatible then ultimate deluxe would be fighting against ultimate The different the deluxe games on the switch were in the wii u witch…you can’t play on the switch so unless you want Nintendo to make it so you can’t play any switch games on the switch 2 then…..I feel smash 6 is more likely then ultimate deluxe
I honestly dont think that Enix would allow for 4 of their characters to be on the free base roster without having atleast 2 of their characters in the each DLC pack
I can definitely see Cloud Sephiroth and Joker coming back Nintendo and Sakurai will probably have to go through the Disney stuff again to bring Sora back
Honestly I don’t even think we need another game. Just keep updating Ultimate, add new characters, and port the game for the inevitable new generation console.
The thing that i want sakurai to do the most is fully revamp zelda's moveset and use ToTK zelda because i saw a video of where this guy gave zelda a new moveset and outfit and everything and i want sakurai to take some inspiration from that and just make zelda better so she isnt always low on the tier list. Edit: The youtuber's name who changed zelda's moveset was Delzethin. All Zelda mains must watch that video
It was confirmed that the next console will have access to your switch library of games, so a deluxe would not make sense in any shape or form. the only reason all of these wii u deluxe versions exist is because of how disastrous the wii u was as a console for Nintendo. Why try to sell everyone a game they all have access to when you can just sell more dlc for said game, it's that simple. and if they do make a brand new smash for next gen then I feel the roster size would simply shrink back down to the size of smash 4's roster excluding new characters. That would be about 58+? 66 with new characters. This seems like a lot remaining, but it really isn't considering all the stages, music, and more that will most likely be cut out of the game. I feel the best thing for smash would be to shrink down each series to its core characters, so like the mario bros series would include: the bros - mario and luigi. who go to stop bowser to save princess peach. there, that is the mario series. of course yoshi and wario would stay too as they are classed as being apart of their own series. If you did this with every series you would have 45 character (not counting third party). plenty of wiggle room to throw back in characters like daisy, rosalina, and some others while having a lot of room to add new characters.
Bandana Dee, Crash, Dr. Eggman, Paper Mario and Waluigi are the safest and best picks here. Even if 2 Mario reps in a deluxe might be too much. Guilty Gear is probably going to be the fighting game rep instead of MK, more ties with Japan & Nintendo. Dixie Kong and Shantae are also good picks overall but here’s the thing. They both use hair attacks so if you include both, their movesets might clash. Balloon Fighter also clashes with the Villager so for the retro rep, I would include Takamaru or preferably Isaac. For Pokémon, they’re not doing another trainer but probably a starter like Meowscarada. Slippy is never happening. StarFox is on hiatus and he isn’t even the frontrunner if the series were to get another rep. Japan just doesn’t really care about Spyro’s games, and he’d be lucky to be an assist trophy. For Capcom, I would prefer to see a new franchise get in first. But if we see Street Fighter again, Chun Li shouldn’t be overlooked. And Master Chief? I wish.
For a new character, just look at the first 12 characters, they all have more than one characters representing their franchise now. Except ONE chatacter, and thats Captain Falcon. So I would add Black Shadow to the roster.
@@ddsjgvk Speaking of Spyro And Crash Give me these guys Rayman Lara Croft From Tomb Raider Jill Or Leon From Resident Evil Klonoa Abe From Oddworld The Pyramid Head From Silent Hill 2 Gex The Gecko That plus bring back Snake and Kazuya To where we can finally have a Proper version of Playstation All Stars
A lot of people would hate me on this but if they added Dixie I wanted her to be parted up with Kiddy like ice climbers. The move set is like already there. More so if it was just her by herself. Like sje could toss him around do the thing where shes rolls around on him like a ball. Them you have all the characters from DKC
@@felldoh9271 Uh, at this point we already know that different characters require different movesets, which means they factually use multiple amount of budgets, like Pokemon Trainer Team and Samus. Ice Climbers worked because Popo and Nana actually don't have difference. But in this case, Samus with and without armors are actually different. So the latter costs more budget.
Speaking of Dixie Please Give her a unique moveset instead of making her a worthless Diddy Clone That plus Bring Back Diddy And K. Rool in Smash 6 That plus throw in these DK Reps Cranky Kong Funky Kong The DK 64 Crew (Chunky, Lanky, Tiny) Lord Fredrik From Tropical Freeze Stanley The Bugman From The 80's DK Arcade Games Ect.........................................................................
Overall this seems fine, but I think Octoling as a second Splatoon rep is extremely likely. Splatoon has 3x the sales of Star Fox and that’s all within the past decade vs 30+ for Fox and crew. Even in the cut the roster in half scenario a Splatoon newcomer seems likely to appear just to represent its popularity. There’s also a lot of people who have just been playing as Octolings since October Expansion came out so having both choice represented would be welcome.
Bro, you know what I would want? Maybe some more stuff from the F-Zero series. I’ve just recently got into the GX Game (mostly interest in it rather than actually getting to play it), and I think some new characters from it would be pretty neat. Maybe if they redo Ganondorf’s entire moveset, they could give the old moveset to a more fitting character like Black Shadow, possibly the easiest way to create a new character through recycled assets that’d actually really fit. Although if we’re speaking actually new characters with original movesets, I think either Samurai Gorroh or even Pico would be cool choices, with Gorroh already being an assist trophy, meanwhile Pico could have a pretty interesting moveset due to him being an assassin if his manic murderous personality’s anything to go by. Although if not characters, then PLEEAAAAAASE at the very least give us the rest of the music tracks from GX, they’re so good and it’s outright criminal that they’re not included with the F-Zero stages so that the rest of the world can witness their artistry.
Personally my list would have said: Base Game: Bandana Dee, Waluigi, Bomberman, Zygarde, Crash Bandicoot DLC 1: Shantae, Scorpion/SubZero, Ratchet & Clank, Agumon, Master Chief DLC 2: Chun-Li, Kratos, Spyro, 2B, Doom Man And then update Ganondorf, Sonic and Inkling
Rayman, Chun Li, Geno, Mallow, Waluigi, Dixie Kong, Eggman, Shadow, Dracula, Nabbit, there are so many more great choices for some smash ultimate DLC or port.
If you mean Geno, Mallow, Waluigi are all from Mario, they'd probably have to fight for one slot in next Smash. Also if you still mean Smash 5, there are already quite many Mario characters. We need a new Smash 6 to cut down past fighters so that new Mario characters can have the chance. Also I don't think Geno and Mallow have joined the main cast? At least I don't remember seeing them in the movie.
@@anakinskywalker70 Did you reply to my point? Since the roster is limited, Mario character sure have to compete against each other and some of them have to lose. If you don't agree, you should just criticize the current Smash 5 roster. Also I remember Geno and Waluigi are not playable in Super Mario Wonder? What do you mean about "should make it"?
What’s crazy is that smash can still makes money to this day with just cosmetics alone! Look and Xenoverse 2, MK8 and Shinobi Strikers, those games are alive after around 6 plus years of support. Smash is undoubtedly one of the best fighting game around, but I also get why they won’t.
Next Smash DLC List(if there will be for the next game)- Wave 1: Blinky/Inky/Pinky/Clyde-Pacman (they can be like a double fighter like Duck Hunt or Ice Climbers except its 4) Geno And Mallow-Super Mario RPG(seperate fighters) Blaze the Cat:Sonic the Hedgehog Mephiles:Sonic the Hedgehog Rex:Xenoblade Chronicles Ms. Pac Man: Pac Man Wave 2: Mew:Pokemon Nightmare:Kirby Kamek: Yoshi New Characters for base game: Waluigi -S-Tier -What we wanted -Still needs a game Dixie Kong -A-Tier -One of the wanted Echo Fighters -Diddy's Partner in crime Skull Kid: -S-Tier -I haven't played Majoras Mask but he's cool -Very creepy HOOO👻 Meta-Ridley -B-Tier -Echo For Ridley -We have enough Samus' Blood Falcon -S-Tier -Just another Echo Fighter but for Cap. Falcon -Now someone will show their Moves Tails -S-Tier -I wanted him in. -Best friend for a hedgehog but not in real life Shadow- -S-Tier again -Echo for Sonic -Very Edgy -Sonic but 𝙂 𝙐 N Zeraora: -S-Tier -Favorite Pokemon of mine -I'M NOT A FURRY!
Hot take... there won't be a story mode, but there will be an expansion for World of Light with new spirits and bosses (like the return of Porky, Rayquaza, and Duon... and maybe a secret Tabuu fight? 👀). But there will be a Target Smash :0 just use one background and a set of assets that could be used for all Target stages. I could imagine DLC taking slightly longer because of it, but totally possible. Same time to develop a story mode for them.
I think it would be more fitting if he was the second to last because it would simultaneously acknowledge the suspense/excitement for the wait to put him in and also a funny slight against Waluigi which would low key be a nod to how Waluigi is never quite the star of the show.
@@felldoh9271 Then why not ask the regular games to give Waluigi more spotlights to actually solve the problem from the root? Smash bros is just a non canon crossover. It never means to help solve problems from each single series. You talk it like your parents don't like you so you force your teacher to raise you instead.
There are a few things that I think are more likely. Base roster: I think we're due for a new zelda character, so I would bring in Impa (or really any zelda character) so I would replace eggman. I think dixie would be base roster instead of crash. I think that a new pokemon from gen 10 would be the pokemon rep. DLC: I would have crash be at the end of the pass instead of dixie. I would say that a fire emblem character would probably get in before waluigi, so the new fire emblem protag would get in instead. DLC 2: For the SF rep, it would most certainly be chun li. I think Krystal would be the Star fox rep. I'd put waluigi in Paper Mario's spot. But, that's all just my opinion. A GAME OPINION. thanks for reading
I’d 1000% buy the game just for N. I think it would be cool if he himself fought and used his many Pokémon as moves, reflecting his nature as an unorthodox Pokémon trainer
The issue about her is the sexiness...But Smash made a great job with Pyra and specially with Mythra about safer outfits. I hope Square Enix considers her.
We wont get a Port version of Ultimate because how the Ultimate is a awesome job on the game and it sold like hotcakes so i dont see a port version of Smash Bros Ultimate to happen regardless.
They focused on a lot of RPG characters in ultimate, so I hope they focus on some more iconic characters this time around. Sans made it in as a costume so it would be a crime if not a single undertale character actually made it in. Theres so many options. I just hope every other character isn’t an “anime swordsman” as the community likes to call it
Every new smash game has a new fire emblem rep, so what about Alear? and maybe for a new pokemon character, they gotta do Gengar, hes almost the face ok pokemon atp
I definitely agree that a Smash Ultimate Deluxe makes the most sense, some way of packaging Smash Ultimate with new content that doesn't make negotiating character rights too difficult for another full title. Your character break down makes some sense, but I would definitely expect characters like Dixie and Waluigi in the base game with characters like Eggman in a DLC pass. Balloon Fighter is a good choice for a throwback/retro character, but I can also see Lip from Panel De Pon being considered. I could also Oatchi & Captain or a new Pikmin rep, Geno with the SMRPG remake happening, Zoroark over N, and definitely Rayman ahead of characters like Crash or Spyro.
Should be a deluxe honestly if they cut anything it’s jus not the same just add more too the game Yk add an actual story mode like subspace as he said and they should be good
It's pretty clear that this roster is literally just western pandering being pased as predictions. Most of the characters you listed are only really requested in the West instead of Japan, the country where Nintendo comes from. Where is the obvious Tales rep? Where is the imminent second Splatoon rep? Why MK a franchise that is LITERALLY NOT SOLD in Japan instead of you know, Soulcalibur or Guilty Gear? Why Shantae as the indie pick instead of Quote who literally started the indie boom or Reimu who has an entire convention dedicated to her franchise out of sheer popularity? Why two Activision reps when Nintendo would most likely not want to have anything to do with them due to all the drama? And why Master Chief a character who has never had a game on Nintendo and is also unheard of in Japan in such an important place as the final slot? Before you bring in the "but Microsoft and Nintendo are such buddy buddies!!" argument, let me remind you that they got Banjo and Steve from them as actual fighters (and all the Bethesda mii costumes since they were bought) and among them Chief was nowhere to be seen. If there's another rule besides being from a videogame, then having at least one actual appearance on Nintendo systems before being considered should be it (and no, Fortnite skins don't count). That said, I'm not a fan of the idea of porting the same game to the new console and have people pay $60 again for it + some new content. This is not a MK8 situation in which the console it was originally sold on was a failure and as such not a lot of people got to experience it, so they just ported it to save themselves the need of making another game and years later they feel the need to make DLC for it due to how good it was still selling. SSBU on the other hand sold over 30 million copies, and of those 30 million costumers I don't think a lot would be willing to pay again for the same game. I just want the series to go on a new direction for once, they already released their "ultimate" game so do what other FG franchises have done and reboot it all.
@@X2011racer Lmao nope. The first Touhou game was released in 1997, 5 years before Shantae. And while Shantae predates Cave Story by 2 years, you can argue that Cave Story left a bigger impact on the industry as a whole unlike Shantae who remained obscure for many years. Objectively speaking Shantae has left minimum impact on the industry compared to the aforementioned franchises, it's just that she has a way more vocal fanbase clamoring for her inclusion. Which is why I believe she should not be included before other more important indies.
MK is a good thought but I think due to violence of it they’d skip out on it and do a game like guilty gear to pull third party fighting characters form
I'm surprised that people sleep on 2B. She is popular choice in both east and west. Nier Automada is on Switch. Her design can be tweaked like Pyra and Mythra.
Im down with a deluxe version if they buff/nerf characters that need it. Redesign older character moves to make them more unique like Ganondorf/Captain Falcon. Add a proper story mode like Subspace Emmisary with CGI cutscenes. And add Skull Kid as a playable character hehehe
I'm sorry dude, but no way Dixie Kong & Slippy Toad would be DLC. These characters don't sell DLC. You forget that every Nintendo character in the DLC was promotional in some way.
Wdym
@@kyled.parksesq7263 Every DLC Nintendo character in Smash Ultimate were not only there to promote Nintendo games, but to specifically do that. Byleth was a character specific to the then recent Fire Emblem: Three Houses, same with Min Min for Arms and Pyra/Mythra for Xenoblade 2. Dixie Kong and Slippy are not only characters who've been around for a while, but aren't big name main characters in any degree (the only exception is Dixie being the main protagonist for DKC3, but that was decades ago). Unless either of them were to get what I call the Pauline treatment, where she had a super grand return in Odyssey and since then has been everywhere, I simply don't see it happening. While both would be cool and fun to play as, they aren't big enough names for DLC, paid additional content. Maybe in a base game, but not DLC.
For street fighter they would definitely add chun li
Put akcuma as an alternate skin like how you can have male and female for the fire emblem characters that kind of changed the name
She's kind of a bit similar
I feel like Akuma is more likely with the whole hero then villain Sakura is going for, yes that would mean Mbison but Akuma is a lot more iconic tbh
Naw it’s either Luke or bison
Nah akuma be better
Never let bro cook again
I agree, dude says “N” lol
I think Rayman has a high chance of being in the next game. Nintendo currently has a very good relationship with Ubisoft as they are making games together (Mario and Rabbids).
I almost put him on the list! I could definitely see him getting in too
tbh he’s lowkey accurate with the list besides shantae, paper mario, and spyro as much as id love them in the game.
shantae isnt too recognizable, paper mario over other mario reps seems less likely, and spyro? i wish.
everything else i completely agree with as it’d the the nail for “ultimate smash bros”
Also he's frozen in battlefield lol
Rayman is my most wanted character
I dont know bro. When the fake leak came out Japan was FURIOUS. They don’t like him
Depending on the negotiations made for the 3rd party characters, they may not have to make new contracts. In racing games when they negotiate for cars with real life likeness, they buy rights for a number of years. If Sakurai got enough years, the work could already be done. Or, some contracts are done for a singular title. A remaster/re-release style may not need new contracts. For example, the NFS Hot Pursuit remaster by Criterion had all the old copyrighted music because it was the same title.
Basically, its not as unlikely as people think.
I think the idea to built on top of Ultimate is not as easy as porting Mario Kart. You have completely forgotten about the fact that you need to renegotiate with every third party developer, and there are 11 companies that you must negotiate with. If it was Brawl which had only 2 third party companies involved I could see it happening, Smash 4 more than doubled that number (it has 5 companies) but outside of Square Enix I don't see much trouble, but Ultimate is a different beast, it's extremely difficult to repeat it because if only one company refuses, it's over, and three companies (Square Enix, Atlus and Disney) are extremely over protective with their IPs, problematic.
Yeah I definitely see that being a potential issue for a couple characters like Sora or Steve. I think realistically the better option would be to cut the roster down and create a new game, but that would take longer to develop. A deluxe version would be easier to develop, but like you said it would be more complicated because you need permission from every company again
@@ImarTuba
Back in 2018 before Ultimate released, Sakurai tried to guess and said that, given the scope of Ultimate, we wouldn't get another smash game until at least 10 years from that moment. Keep in mind, this was WAY before Switch's lifespan got extended so he had no idea about how successful the system was going to be. Now Smash is a console seller so 10 years is obviously too much wait, but provided that Switch keeps selling until 2026 (in other words, coexisting with the successor for a couple of years), people would still be able to play Ultimate which makes waiting for Smash 6 A LOT EASIER.
Konami meanwhile: You can't use any of Kojima's characters. So don't even try.
@@MarshtompGames
Wait, what? Then how did Snake returned for Ultimate? I know that was the reason he was absent in Smash 4 but he somehow returned for Ultimate.
@@lucaantinori4834 Sakurai had to go through a lot of hoops to get Snake in Ultimate.
I’m still extremely surprised that they didn’t add monster hunter as a dlc with Rathalos being a boss/assist trophy and having it be perfect promotion for when rise came out as a switch exclusive. Looking back at the every new character added in ultimate, I never really had a fighter who I truely had a connection with, so yeah that’s all I really want
Both Sakurai and Capcom spokespeople have been _very_ open about how they want Monster Hunter to be represented by the monsters themselves, not the hunters. Similar to how Pikachu is added whenever Pokemon needs a rep for some crossover instead of Red or Cynthia or whatever.
@@robofistsrevenge3288 Speaking of Capcom
We need these Capcom Characters to show up in the next Smash Game
Phoenix Wright
Jill Or Leon From Resident Evil
Morrigan From Darkstalkers
Viewtiful Joe
Arthur From Ghost And Goblins
Amaterasu From Okami
Frank West From Dead Rising
Captain Commando
Ect.....................................................
@@dylansmith5206 No Dante is a crime
@@novasZK He’s ironically the most likely character to get added out of all the other Capcom characters listed above due to having a Mii Costume (maybe alongside Jill or Leon since they had a whole Spirit Event for the Resident Evil characters)
I think if we know Nintendo enough, we’ll likely get Alear from Fire Emblem Engage
DON"T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS
WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE EVIL DEMONIC SATANIC SWORD FIGHTERS IN THE SATAN DAMNED GGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're at the point where we're making predictions for a possible port of smash ultimate
And the worst part is that we're watching it lol
For me personally, I would like to add more retro characters like Billy and Jimmy Lee from the Double Dragon series, Bill and Lance from the Contra series. Maybe also add Lara Croft from the Tomb Raider series as well. It would be nice to have at least one character from Killer Instinct.
I’d say that there would be 16 new fighters and 8 new stages in the base game, following by a DLC Booster Fighter Pass.
Unless they change or add new game mechanics I don't see why a whole new game is needed. They just need to keep adding more characters.
Uh, Sakurai has said in his TH-cam channel that they've reached the limit of game. If your point is true, the question should rather be why there are no new DLCs this year.
I think Donkey Kong Jr. would be a neat retro choice (he could represent the classic Donkey Kong Arcade games, DKJr Math, and maybe DK94
dixie kong would be the better choice
Isn't Donkey Kong Jr. removed from the current series canon? If you want him to return, you should ask Nintendo to make a new game that can properly re-introduce him in a new role first.
At this point what matters is that the removed character isn't the most significant character through out the whole franchsie. Otherwise we can say the same thing to Wart and Stanley.
Speaking Of Donkey Kong Jr.
Bring Back Diddy And K. Rool in Smash 6
That plus throw in these DK Reps
DIxie Kong
Cranky Kong
Funky Kong
The DK 64 Crew (Chunky, Lanky, Tiny)
Lord Fredrik From Tropical Freeze
Stanley The Bugman From The 80's DK Arcade Games
Ect..........................................................................
@@dylansmith5206
already say, the regular games should be used to explain the canon, not crossover. Crossover are usually noncanon so it'd definitely cause confusion.
Besides we also had Super Mario Movie, wasnt that also a neat chance to reintroduce characters?
Worrying about canon in Smash makes 0 sense. Young Link...
this was a highly enjoyable watch, I think you're predictions are highly based. haha. I bet you get a good amount right too. would love to see the route 1 potential video...although if you're sane you want route 2! I think they should always take route 2, each time make it the new most epic videogame ever, and let the story mode be what gives each entry it's unique identity. they could even add less than 5 new characters to the base game each time, so long as we get dlc and a new bell and whistle here or there, along with that new story mode. new sub 🎉
Ngl I think urbosa is likely
We will most likely get another zelda rep and she fits well
Also shantae is my pick for the most likely
Now those are reasonable choices. 👍🏻
Speaking of Zelda
Please Give me some new Zelda characters in Smash 6 that aren't just more Link, Zelda, Or Captain Falcon Clones
Plus please give me some Zelda Newcomers that aren't just more alternate versions of Link Or Zelda
Give Me Skull Kid From Majora's Mask
Ghirahim From Skyward Sword
Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess
Zant From Twilight Princess
Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset)
Vaati
Impa From Hyrule Warriors
Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds
The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha
Ect.......................
I believe Mortal Kombat is banned in Japan so that’s likely why it hasn’t even been considered
Correct
Not really banned, it's just not sold over there due to all the restrictions on CERO's part. If NetherRealm really wanted to sell it they'd have to tone down the violence a lot all for an audience that would rather play SF or Tekken. So of course they don't even want to bother with that.
But yeah, Scorpion is still a stupid request despite how cool it may be.
@@ThatSplatoonTouhouGuy and Sub-Zero could be a perfect echo, if they gave him different specials
You guys forgot who the main character in mortal kombat has always been in every story mode. If a mortal Kombat character gets added, it will most likely be Liu Kang.
@@makangwei oh yeah, maybe, but I think Scorpion is more iconic and probably has more to work with
I don’t know much about licensing and or the character approval process for those that are owned by 3rd party companies. However, I would imagine having that same game like Ultimate and just expanding the roster (maybe Sakurai even making a few more 3rd pary deals), is the cheaper and better way to go here. We have to remember that for a long while a balance needs to be kept between Sakurai & and the demand of the fan base. A new game all together just simply isn’t in the cards right now
Sakurai has said in his TH-cam channel that they've reached the limit of game. So it's safe to say what they can do is start a new game with same size but different contents.
And many people just need a new game to offer the chances for their dream characters and game series. Why do we have to keep the old game?
More than likely a few new first/second party characters. Doubtful there would be new guests unless they were DLC.
I would definitely love another Monster Hunter addition like an actual fighter and not a boss and map like you have the hunter who already has an expanded set of moves to use
YES!! I WOULD BE SO HAPPY!
This is what I would predict for a smash 6 : 10 new characters being Terrarian, Raymman, Waddle dee, Tails, Zoroark, King boo, Magolor, Cranky Kong, Dixie kong, and Crazy dave
Wave 1 would be :Geno, Slippy, Spyro, Roblox Noob, and Undyne
Wave 2 would be :Waluigi, Phoenix right, Chorus kids, Shadow, and Crash
What series is tails?
Also I think Waluigi would just be in base game. Mario series already existed in Smash so we don't need more DLCs to expand it, which would offend Mario fans.
@@Doracake sonic
@@DavidLuvsBread oh so you mean sonic swap a new rep?
@@Doracake wdym
@@Doracake also DLC has to be hype, no one will buy non hype dlc
Byleth, min min, hero, and kayuza in question :
My personal pick for third party characters:
1-Crash dont need to explain
2-Rayman also no brainer
3-Doomslayer/doomguy father of fps
4-Masterchief x box mascot
5-gordon freeman or a tf2 merc( i would personaly chose demoman but heavy or scout could also work) to represent valve, indie games in general and multiplayer fps games as a whole if tf2 is the chosen one.
6-a playstation character because crash isnt sony property no more😂 probably astrobot
7- unrealistic but i want conker XD
Ultimate is kind of already a deluxed version of wii u
not at all
I also really would love to see Impa, based on her Age of Calamity move set. She is a popular character in that game, and Zelda is LONG overdue for a newcomer and Impa is the only solid option.
The current Zelda reps themselves have a lot of problems, the links are just copy pasted with *slightly* different attributes, ganon is a slower captain falcon clone, sheik and Zelda are fine the way they are tho.
@@NetherKingVulcannus not disagreeing there. However, am pretty sure Ganondorf will be restyled after TOTK next Smash. There's no reason not to. I'd like Link to receive those two handed sword Smash attacks too, and agree with all other changes proposed to Young and Toon Link, however ngl I could do without them and Sheik, especially if it means room for newcomers. Impa being the front runner here. Zelda restyled after TOTK would be great too. In general, remix the Triforce duo and remix Sheik into Impa, then maybe consider semi clones as Young / Toon Link. Pig Ganon is also a cool idea.
Speaking Of Impa
Give me these Zelda Character's in Smash 6 (That aren't Link, Zelda, Or Captain Falcon Rip Offs)
Skull Kid From Majora's Mask
Ghirahim From Skyward Sword
Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess
Zant From Twilight Princess
Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset)
Vaati
Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds
The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha, Urbosa
Ect.......................................
What I want for smash ultimate deluxe=
- Buffs=
King DDD - down special cancel before max
KING K ROOL - sweet spot neutral special
PIRAHNA PLANT - double input side special
BOWSER - stronger blue fire at zero percent
RIDLEY - super armor down special
GANONDORF - charge up special range
Lil Mac - side special resets after being hit
Dr Mario - random poisoning pill (1/4)
Yoshi - make side special shield break
Donkey Kong - aerial side special spikes
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Daisy - counter poison effect
Dark Samus - 1.25 lighter/ 1.25 faster
- Nerfs=
Pikachu - up throw angle changed
Kazuya - down special two try cancel
Steve - minecart end lag animation 2x
Joker - arsene drains faster after 100%
Sonic - more up special end lag
- Base Echo
Birdo - Yoshi (melee: heavier less recovery)
Dixie Kong - Diddy Kong (krool recovery)
Octoling - Inkling (sprinkler down special)
Dry Bowser - Bowser (lighter / >100 🔵🔥)
Louie - Olimar (red rock pink white pikman)
- Echo Pack
Hector - Ike (.75 reach, 1.25 knock back )
Shadow - Sonic (joker neutral B)
Ms PAC Man - PAC man (throws hydrant)
Rex - Pyra & Mythra (shulk down special)
Heroine - Hero (1/4th crit, 1.25% lighter )
- Base new characters
Waluigi
King Boo
Rillaboom
Bandana Dee
Geno
- DLC Pack
Frogger (pre-purchase)
Bentley Bear
2B
Ray-Man
Crash Bandicoot
- DLC Pack 2
Dante
Dr Robotonik
Subzero
Ryu Hayabusa
Master Chief
It's gonna be 15 fire emblem characters
And it will be if the crazies don't stop harassing Sakurai-san for Geno, Waluigi or Bandana Waddle Dee. 😤
I wish you had expanded on what Pokémon N would use, and how it would play.
Tears of the kingdom link Ganon and Zelda would be crazy
Speaking of Link, Ganon, And Zelda
Please give me these Zelda Newcomers
Ghirahim From Skyward Sword
Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess
Zant From Twilight Princess
Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset)
Vaati
Impa From Hyrule Warriors
Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds
The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha
Skull Kid From Majora's Mask
Ect..................................
As long as Joker comes back I'll be happy, but I also would complain about the Persona 3 and 4 protagonist getting added.
Speaking of Your Link Profile Profile Picture
Speaking of Skull Kid
Please give me these Zelda Newcomers
Ghirahim From Skyward Sword
Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess
Zant From Twilight Princess
Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset)
Vaati
Impa From Hyrule Warriors
Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds
The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha
Ect..................................
Also. Fuck Joker Coming Back!
No one gave a Shit About Joker being in Smash before Ultimate was a thing (Since Joker is bland boring as shit character with Zero personality, wit, or charm)!!
And no one was begging for Sakurai to add Joker in Smash Before Ultimate was a thing!
I don't agree with the idea that the next game would be a "Deluxe". The reason they did a lot of these was because of the commercial failure of the Wii U. They ported these games as "Deluxe" to the Switch so that those games could reach a wider audience with the success of the Switch. If they were going to do that for any game, it would have been Smash 4 being the Deluxe as it ports to the Switch. The Switch already has a lot of sales, and a lot of people owning Smash Ultimate, so there's no need. They typically build off of the previous Smash game when developing the next game anyways. Brawl was built of of Melee, Smash 4 was built off of Brawl, and Ultimate was built off of Smash 4.
Speaking of Smash 4
Please Oh Please Add in The Smash 4 for 3DS Single Player Mode that should have been included in Smash 4 For Wii U and Ultimate
Please Give me Smash Run for the love of Cinder
15:19 If you ask any Star Fox fan, they're more likely to say "get this guy off me".
I think they would also add cuphead since the creators wanted him in smash, but they had to wait for the creator to improve him as a fighter (I can’t believe that they gave him the mii treatment 😭)
I like him but Nintendo has the freedom to invite a specific 3rd party guest or not.
time was the reason and the character he wanted is what we got
@@donkeykong6426 he wants? who?
@@Doracake Byleth
@@donkeykong6426 I ask who wants, in general it should be Nintendo CEOs.
Oh cool, nice to know the moment I've finally gotten a Nintendo Switch OLED, and am really getting interested in Smash Ultimate it might be replaced. Fun.
Edit: I just hope that if they do make a Smash Ultimate Deluxe and put it on a new console that Smash Ultimate maintains a playerbase and/or competitive scene for people who don't want to buy a Switch Pro
Well assuming it actually is just a deluxe ver. Then It will pretty much just be the same game with dlc
And if it's just a "Switch Pro"...that's also implying that it's just a more powerful version of the switch that's already available.
So you honestly have nothing to worry about
I predict Geno, Rayman, Skull Kid, Armarouge with Ceruledge echo, Tails and Shadow (who is a Sonic echo), Isaac from Golden Sun and Akira from Astral Chain.
predict? lmao those assumptions arent remotely accurate
who is tails?
Speaking of Skull Kid
Please give me these Zelda Newcomers
Ghirahim From Skyward Sword
Midna And Wolf Link From Twilight Princess
Zant From Twilight Princess
Tetra From Wind Waker (With Her having a unique moveset)
Vaati
Impa From Hyrule Warriors
Ravio And Yuga From A Link Between Worlds
The Champions From Breath Of The Wild - Revali, Daruk, Mipha
Ect..................................
The Deluxe Wii U ports made sense on the Switch. Most gamers didn't have a Wii U and you couldn't fit a disc drive on the Switch so backwards compatibility wasn't an option. Why would they make Deluxe ports of Switch games on the successor? If it has backwards compatibility having a port would be redundant, and having a small card as the Switch's physical game size would be easy to put on the next device. Even if it doesn't have backwards compatibility (which wouldn't make much sense), the Switch is currently the 3rd best selling platform of all time and many people already played Smash Ultimate. With a system seller like the Smash Bros. franchise wouldn't they want to make a new game to entice a larger audience? Making a port would be a turn off for many people that already played it on the Switch even with a few new bells and whistles.
Ngl.. a lot of these choices feel..too safe. I do find it hilarious that out of all the times that Sakurai has said he was done, we didn’t believe him. Now that he kinda soft confirmed a game we suddenly believe him now? Weird. So if we’re going to believe Sakurai..wouldn’t make sense to have a smaller roster? He even said a number of times getting the rights to some of those characters would be hard and we SHOULD expect a smaller roster. Interesting choices for DLC but that base roster spot..needs help
7:20 I wouldn't say dark pit is a villain considering
He isn't a villain
Speaking Of Pit
Please Oh Please Put in A Kid Icarus Character that isn't just another evil Satanic Demonic Pit Clone
Give me Hades
Medusa
Viridi
Phosphora
Magnus
Eggplant Wizard
Ect......................................
My personal base roster going off of your criteria would be Bandana Dee, Kamek, Excitebiker, Meowscarada (even tho it would be great to have N) and Rayman, a character more closely associated with Nintendo and its style of games. Crash is such a massive pick, I'd save him for DLC.
“Another nintendo character I’m suprised we haven’t got yet”
Oh it’s toad!
“Dixie!”
Your dlc roster is nearly perfect. But I would change one thing. I don't see Scorpion or any MK character getting in, I'd remove him and put Master Chief in his spot. He's not big in Japan, and can't end it with him, but is an icon that I think needs to be in Smash. As for the final slot, because of the resent remake. The highly requested character Geno should be that final fighter.
I love your editing style!
With the success of elden ring and the fact bandai namco was involved (also it has a Japanese developmrnt team) so I reckon tarnished has a pretty good chance
Am thinking the same thing.
I would actually love to see a much more trimmed down Smash, assuming we do get a future entry. 20-30 fighters, no third-party fighters, no echoes, a balance of fighters from each series, meaning not having half the roster be Fire Emblem. But, I think we do need to entertain the idea that we may never get another Smash game, and that would be fine. Ultimate is a great one to end on.
Come on with the Nintendo characters man we already have enough fire emblem and Nintendo characters and Pokemon too
It’s a lot easier for Nintendo to implement their own characters versus having to get the license to use another character
Remember when smash use to be a nintendo crossover party game
thus is the most goated list i’ve ever seen
Full roster: 11 new characters (so it adds up to a perfect 100).
Base game: 5 characters
Waluigi
Dixey kong (echo fighter)
Bandan waddle dee
Shadow (semi echo fighter)
Crash
DLC Pack (6 final characters):
(New Nintendo franchise)
Scorpion
(New gen Pokemon rep)
Kratos
Chun Li or Akuma
Master Chief.
Perfect 100 character roster. Adding at least 2 echo fighters was necessary. As for some other requests,:
Eggman becomes a boss like marx and Dracula.
Tails would replace Shadow's assist trophy.
Slippy and Peppy would become skins for fox and falco like intended.
Spyro would become a spirit and nothing else.
Screw baloon fighter.
Shante's already represented as a spirit and a mii fighter.
As for paper mario.............RIP . Idk maybe an assist trophy.
One dumpster fire, coming up...🔥
Chun Li or Akuma? Didn't their series already exist in the past games?
I'll prefer the ultimate deluxe because I didn't have any money to get the dlc content. This is a win for me.
Your roaster pick is pretty mid
My ideal Smash Ultimate Deluxe additions would be Geno, Waluigi, Shantae, Shovel Knight, Phosphora, Riku and Toon Zelda/Tetra.
Good idea, just dump Geno, Waluigi & Toon Zelda/Tetra. 🗑️
While I don't think the current game can be expanded, the problem is Smash Ultimate is already oversaturated with Mario characters so it cannot get more.
A new Smash would rather be a better chance to insert new Mario additons like Waluigi and Birdo when the old ones are cut.
Waluigi, Dr Eggman, Master Chief, Goku, and Shadow with guns.
Look the reason why I think a new game is more likely in order for a deluxe game to make sense the next console can not be backwards compatible but people want backwards compatibility but If the next switch was backwards compatible then ultimate deluxe would be fighting against ultimate
The different the deluxe games on the switch were in the wii u witch…you can’t play on the switch so unless you want Nintendo to make it so you can’t play any switch games on the switch 2 then…..I feel smash 6 is more likely then ultimate deluxe
Whatever direction they go, if they dont improve the 1v1 netcode, they can keep that mf'er.
8:58 That aged horribly
Also, given that Gen 9 would likely be at least in its late stage by 2025, I think a rep from it is possible.
Would you imagine if Geno is likely to be playable instead of Waluigi?
I honestly dont think that Enix would allow for 4 of their characters to be on the free base roster without having atleast 2 of their characters in the each DLC pack
Nintendo is doing a awesome job and hopefully Sora Cloud Sephiroth and Joker come back.
I can definitely see Cloud Sephiroth and Joker coming back Nintendo and Sakurai will probably have to go through the Disney stuff again to bring Sora back
I agree with you i really do hope they could work it out with disney
@@TamakiKurusu7422 I'm not really a Sora fan his moveset is kinda boring in my opinion
I understand i respect your opinion
@@TamakiKurusu7422 thanks
2B for Smash Bros Ultimate Deluxe!
Not happening. 🔞
Honestly I don’t even think we need another game. Just keep updating Ultimate, add new characters, and port the game for the inevitable new generation console.
If we're lucky we'll get a few echo fighters or something 💀
8:00 for retro fighter, I would actually prefer Dig Dug
The thing that i want sakurai to do the most is fully revamp zelda's moveset and use ToTK zelda because i saw a video of where this guy gave zelda a new moveset and outfit and everything and i want sakurai to take some inspiration from that and just make zelda better so she isnt always low on the tier list.
Edit: The youtuber's name who changed zelda's moveset was Delzethin. All Zelda mains must watch that video
It was confirmed that the next console will have access to your switch library of games, so a deluxe would not make sense in any shape or form. the only reason all of these wii u deluxe versions exist is because of how disastrous the wii u was as a console for Nintendo. Why try to sell everyone a game they all have access to when you can just sell more dlc for said game, it's that simple.
and if they do make a brand new smash for next gen then I feel the roster size would simply shrink back down to the size of smash 4's roster excluding new characters. That would be about 58+? 66 with new characters. This seems like a lot remaining, but it really isn't considering all the stages, music, and more that will most likely be cut out of the game.
I feel the best thing for smash would be to shrink down each series to its core characters, so like the mario bros series would include: the bros - mario and luigi. who go to stop bowser to save princess peach. there, that is the mario series. of course yoshi and wario would stay too as they are classed as being apart of their own series. If you did this with every series you would have 45 character (not counting third party). plenty of wiggle room to throw back in characters like daisy, rosalina, and some others while having a lot of room to add new characters.
I can see Noah from Xenoblade join as well as Ryu Hayabusa.
Bandana Dee, Crash, Dr. Eggman, Paper Mario and Waluigi are the safest and best picks here. Even if 2 Mario reps in a deluxe might be too much.
Guilty Gear is probably going to be the fighting game rep instead of MK, more ties with Japan & Nintendo.
Dixie Kong and Shantae are also good picks overall but here’s the thing. They both use hair attacks so if you include both, their movesets might clash.
Balloon Fighter also clashes with the Villager so for the retro rep, I would include Takamaru or preferably Isaac.
For Pokémon, they’re not doing another trainer but probably a starter like Meowscarada.
Slippy is never happening. StarFox is on hiatus and he isn’t even the frontrunner if the series were to get another rep. Japan just doesn’t really care about Spyro’s games, and he’d be lucky to be an assist trophy.
For Capcom, I would prefer to see a new franchise get in first. But if we see Street Fighter again, Chun Li shouldn’t be overlooked.
And Master Chief? I wish.
For a new character, just look at the first 12 characters, they all have more than one characters representing their franchise now. Except ONE chatacter, and thats Captain Falcon. So I would add Black Shadow to the roster.
What about the Rabbids? I think they’d be absolutely hilarious to add to the game
Not just rabbids but also RAYMAN!!!
I hope I see Crash and Masterchief on this list.
Edit: W list
Don't get your hopes up if he didn't in super smash bros ultimate he won't be in the next smash bros game
also needs spyro in that
@@ddsjgvk Speaking of Spyro And Crash
Give me these guys
Rayman
Lara Croft From Tomb Raider
Jill Or Leon From Resident Evil
Klonoa
Abe From Oddworld
The Pyramid Head From Silent Hill 2
Gex The Gecko
That plus bring back Snake and Kazuya
To where we can finally have a Proper version of Playstation All Stars
Takamuru
Ryu hayabusa
Bill from Contra
Conker
The Ashen One from Dark Souls
A lot of people would hate me on this but if they added Dixie I wanted her to be parted up with Kiddy like ice climbers. The move set is like already there. More so if it was just her by herself. Like sje could toss him around do the thing where shes rolls around on him like a ball. Them you have all the characters from DKC
That’s exactly what I am thinking; her and Diddy are perfect for a future Smash reboot afterwards. Her for Ultimate Deluxe would be a waste.
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Uh, at this point we already know that different characters require different movesets, which means they factually use multiple amount of budgets, like Pokemon Trainer Team and Samus.
Ice Climbers worked because Popo and Nana actually don't have difference. But in this case, Samus with and without armors are actually different. So the latter costs more budget.
Speaking of Dixie
Please Give her a unique moveset instead of making her a worthless Diddy Clone
That plus Bring Back Diddy And K. Rool in Smash 6
That plus throw in these DK Reps
Cranky Kong
Funky Kong
The DK 64 Crew (Chunky, Lanky, Tiny)
Lord Fredrik From Tropical Freeze
Stanley The Bugman From The 80's DK Arcade Games
Ect.........................................................................
Overall this seems fine, but I think Octoling as a second Splatoon rep is extremely likely. Splatoon has 3x the sales of Star Fox and that’s all within the past decade vs 30+ for Fox and crew. Even in the cut the roster in half scenario a Splatoon newcomer seems likely to appear just to represent its popularity. There’s also a lot of people who have just been playing as Octolings since October Expansion came out so having both choice represented would be welcome.
Bro, you know what I would want?
Maybe some more stuff from the F-Zero series. I’ve just recently got into the GX Game (mostly interest in it rather than actually getting to play it), and I think some new characters from it would be pretty neat. Maybe if they redo Ganondorf’s entire moveset, they could give the old moveset to a more fitting character like Black Shadow, possibly the easiest way to create a new character through recycled assets that’d actually really fit. Although if we’re speaking actually new characters with original movesets, I think either Samurai Gorroh or even Pico would be cool choices, with Gorroh already being an assist trophy, meanwhile Pico could have a pretty interesting moveset due to him being an assassin if his manic murderous personality’s anything to go by.
Although if not characters, then PLEEAAAAAASE at the very least give us the rest of the music tracks from GX, they’re so good and it’s outright criminal that they’re not included with the F-Zero stages so that the rest of the world can witness their artistry.
Personally my list would have said:
Base Game: Bandana Dee, Waluigi, Bomberman, Zygarde, Crash Bandicoot
DLC 1: Shantae, Scorpion/SubZero, Ratchet & Clank, Agumon, Master Chief
DLC 2: Chun-Li, Kratos, Spyro, 2B, Doom Man
And then update Ganondorf, Sonic and Inkling
Rayman, Chun Li, Geno, Mallow, Waluigi, Dixie Kong, Eggman, Shadow, Dracula, Nabbit, there are so many more great choices for some smash ultimate DLC or port.
If you mean Geno, Mallow, Waluigi are all from Mario, they'd probably have to fight for one slot in next Smash.
Also if you still mean Smash 5, there are already quite many Mario characters. We need a new Smash 6 to cut down past fighters so that new Mario characters can have the chance.
Also I don't think Geno and Mallow have joined the main cast? At least I don't remember seeing them in the movie.
@@Doracake geno and waluigi both can and should make it. Mallow probably shouldnt to your point.
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Did you reply to my point? Since the roster is limited, Mario character sure have to compete against each other and some of them have to lose. If you don't agree, you should just criticize the current Smash 5 roster.
Also I remember Geno and Waluigi are not playable in Super Mario Wonder? What do you mean about "should make it"?
Yes i will a ultimate Deluxe Version i will all Characters with More More More Characters
What’s crazy is that smash can still makes money to this day with just cosmetics alone! Look and Xenoverse 2, MK8 and Shinobi Strikers, those games are alive after around 6 plus years of support. Smash is undoubtedly one of the best fighting game around, but I also get why they won’t.
Next Smash DLC List(if there will be for the next game)-
Wave 1:
Blinky/Inky/Pinky/Clyde-Pacman (they can be like a double fighter like Duck Hunt or Ice Climbers except its 4)
Geno And Mallow-Super Mario RPG(seperate fighters)
Blaze the Cat:Sonic the Hedgehog
Mephiles:Sonic the Hedgehog
Rex:Xenoblade Chronicles
Ms. Pac Man: Pac Man
Wave 2:
Mew:Pokemon
Nightmare:Kirby
Kamek: Yoshi
New Characters for base game:
Waluigi
-S-Tier
-What we wanted
-Still needs a game
Dixie Kong
-A-Tier
-One of the wanted Echo Fighters
-Diddy's Partner in crime
Skull Kid:
-S-Tier
-I haven't played Majoras Mask but he's cool
-Very creepy HOOO👻
Meta-Ridley
-B-Tier
-Echo For Ridley
-We have enough Samus'
Blood Falcon
-S-Tier
-Just another Echo Fighter but for Cap. Falcon
-Now someone will show their Moves
Tails
-S-Tier
-I wanted him in.
-Best friend for a hedgehog but not in real life
Shadow-
-S-Tier again
-Echo for Sonic
-Very Edgy
-Sonic but 𝙂 𝙐 N
Zeraora:
-S-Tier
-Favorite Pokemon of mine
-I'M NOT A FURRY!
Waluigi, Shadow, and Dr Eggman please
Nemesis from Resident Evil.
Better than Chun-Li, Dr. Eggman or Freddy Fazbear. 😤
Hot take... there won't be a story mode, but there will be an expansion for World of Light with new spirits and bosses (like the return of Porky, Rayquaza, and Duon... and maybe a secret Tabuu fight? 👀). But there will be a Target Smash :0 just use one background and a set of assets that could be used for all Target stages. I could imagine DLC taking slightly longer because of it, but totally possible. Same time to develop a story mode for them.
I feel like they could probably make a new game with Ultimate's roster (and some newcomers of course)
I cried happily during the master chief part
Honestly i think the last character they should add is waluigi to truly give closure to "everyone is here"
I think it would be more fitting if he was the second to last because it would simultaneously acknowledge the suspense/excitement for the wait to put him in and also a funny slight against Waluigi which would low key be a nod to how Waluigi is never quite the star of the show.
No
Dutch angel dragons would be a better idea
@@felldoh9271no
We need Dutch angel dragons
What does Waluigi do with "everyone is here" thing? Any source? I think "everyone is here" means only all past Smash fighters.
@@felldoh9271
Then why not ask the regular games to give Waluigi more spotlights to actually solve the problem from the root? Smash bros is just a non canon crossover. It never means to help solve problems from each single series. You talk it like your parents don't like you so you force your teacher to raise you instead.
There are a few things that I think are more likely.
Base roster: I think we're due for a new zelda character, so I would bring in Impa (or really any zelda character) so I would replace eggman. I think dixie would be base roster instead of crash. I think that a new pokemon from gen 10 would be the pokemon rep.
DLC: I would have crash be at the end of the pass instead of dixie. I would say that a fire emblem character would probably get in before waluigi, so the new fire emblem protag would get in instead.
DLC 2: For the SF rep, it would most certainly be chun li. I think Krystal would be the Star fox rep. I'd put waluigi in Paper Mario's spot.
But, that's all just my opinion.
A GAME OPINION. thanks for reading
I see what you did there (“But, that’s just a theory. A FILM theory!”).
I’d 1000% buy the game just for N. I think it would be cool if he himself fought and used his many Pokémon as moves, reflecting his nature as an unorthodox Pokémon trainer
2B should also be added since the directer of Nier automata said he was upset that 2B didn’t make to smash ultimate
Agreed
Only if she wears the censorship tights....🔞
The issue about her is the sexiness...But Smash made a great job with Pyra and specially with Mythra about safer outfits. I hope Square Enix considers her.
@@hakirayleigh yeah, I can see that being an issue for her, but she was highly requested after all
We wont get a Port version of Ultimate because how the Ultimate is a awesome job on the game and it sold like hotcakes so i dont see a port version of Smash Bros Ultimate to happen regardless.
They focused on a lot of RPG characters in ultimate, so I hope they focus on some more iconic characters this time around. Sans made it in as a costume so it would be a crime if not a single undertale character actually made it in. Theres so many options. I just hope every other character isn’t an “anime swordsman” as the community likes to call it
Every new smash game has a new fire emblem rep, so what about Alear?
and maybe for a new pokemon character, they gotta do Gengar, hes almost the face ok pokemon atp
I definitely agree that a Smash Ultimate Deluxe makes the most sense, some way of packaging Smash Ultimate with new content that doesn't make negotiating character rights too difficult for another full title.
Your character break down makes some sense, but I would definitely expect characters like Dixie and Waluigi in the base game with characters like Eggman in a DLC pass. Balloon Fighter is a good choice for a throwback/retro character, but I can also see Lip from Panel De Pon being considered. I could also Oatchi & Captain or a new Pikmin rep, Geno with the SMRPG remake happening, Zoroark over N, and definitely Rayman ahead of characters like Crash or Spyro.
What series is eggman?
sonic@@Doracake
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isn't sonic in smash already
yea and?@@Doracake
@@likealaddertothesun
oh so you mean a new game.
Should be a deluxe honestly if they cut anything it’s jus not the same just add more too the game Yk add an actual story mode like subspace as he said and they should be good
It's pretty clear that this roster is literally just western pandering being pased as predictions. Most of the characters you listed are only really requested in the West instead of Japan, the country where Nintendo comes from. Where is the obvious Tales rep? Where is the imminent second Splatoon rep? Why MK a franchise that is LITERALLY NOT SOLD in Japan instead of you know, Soulcalibur or Guilty Gear? Why Shantae as the indie pick instead of Quote who literally started the indie boom or Reimu who has an entire convention dedicated to her franchise out of sheer popularity? Why two Activision reps when Nintendo would most likely not want to have anything to do with them due to all the drama? And why Master Chief a character who has never had a game on Nintendo and is also unheard of in Japan in such an important place as the final slot? Before you bring in the "but Microsoft and Nintendo are such buddy buddies!!" argument, let me remind you that they got Banjo and Steve from them as actual fighters (and all the Bethesda mii costumes since they were bought) and among them Chief was nowhere to be seen. If there's another rule besides being from a videogame, then having at least one actual appearance on Nintendo systems before being considered should be it (and no, Fortnite skins don't count).
That said, I'm not a fan of the idea of porting the same game to the new console and have people pay $60 again for it + some new content. This is not a MK8 situation in which the console it was originally sold on was a failure and as such not a lot of people got to experience it, so they just ported it to save themselves the need of making another game and years later they feel the need to make DLC for it due to how good it was still selling. SSBU on the other hand sold over 30 million copies, and of those 30 million costumers I don't think a lot would be willing to pay again for the same game. I just want the series to go on a new direction for once, they already released their "ultimate" game so do what other FG franchises have done and reboot it all.
Now THAT'S the most intelligent response to the subject in the Comments section for this video!
Well met! 🏆
Shantae existed before Quote or Reimu, so one could argue that she's the grandmother of all Indies.
@@X2011racer Lmao nope. The first Touhou game was released in 1997, 5 years before Shantae. And while Shantae predates Cave Story by 2 years, you can argue that Cave Story left a bigger impact on the industry as a whole unlike Shantae who remained obscure for many years.
Objectively speaking Shantae has left minimum impact on the industry compared to the aforementioned franchises, it's just that she has a way more vocal fanbase clamoring for her inclusion. Which is why I believe she should not be included before other more important indies.
I would like to see Jin Kazama in Smash with new music and spirits. If Sephiroth can get in with Cloud, so can Jin.
Dante and Doom Guy are weeping
There’s only one thing I request and that’s a Mandela effect Pikachu skin… and Giovanni…
One more thing I imagine classic sonic would be the new sonic character if there was one
Thay should add Henry stick man
MK is a good thought but I think due to violence of it they’d skip out on it and do a game like guilty gear to pull third party fighting characters form
I will say that, I think it feels a bit off to have the "future Pokemon Game Slot", but not one for Fire Emblem, I feel.
I hope Geno and mallow will be in deluxe
1 Geno and mallow
2 tails and eggman
3 Bandana dee
I think that characters that should be added are rayman, cuphead, and maybe doom guy
I'm surprised that people sleep on 2B. She is popular choice in both east and west. Nier Automada is on Switch. Her design can be tweaked like Pyra and Mythra.
Im down with a deluxe version if they buff/nerf characters that need it. Redesign older character moves to make them more unique like Ganondorf/Captain Falcon. Add a proper story mode like Subspace Emmisary with CGI cutscenes. And add Skull Kid as a playable character hehehe
I just want Celeste Madeline for the next game. I don’t really know what the move set wouldn’t be I just like Celeste.
And I just want nomad taisteal in super smash bros