The EPA Doesn't Want You to Know the MPG of the 2024 Chevy Silverado HD Duramax - Let's Find Out!
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Have we not reached the summit yet? Can manufacturers finally stop worrying about having the highest, most obscene power numbers and instead focus on reliability? If you’re going to charge me 90k for a truck, can it at least last the majority of my lifetime?
Unfortunately 75 percent of the buyers of these 80k plus trucks will trade them in for the next model in 3 years. So the big three have no real reason to increase reliability.
"Planned obsolescence" 😅
The Big Three Automakers are more worried about the quarterly profits & stock prices. They could change course and get to Toyota & Honda levels of quality & Reliability if they really wanted to.
@@bluesfan6862 this has been going on for so many years unfortunately. Though… maybe owners of newer trucks wouldn’t be trading in so often if the major components weren’t already failing when under warranty
This is why GM isn't concerned with over 1000lb-ft. Gale banks already proved you can never get peak torque with these 10 speed autos and the torque converter flashing. They will never see 1200-1500 while towing
2004 GMC Sierra 2500HD, Duramax LB7, Allison Series 1000 5 speed, no EGR, no DEF, no regen. 522,000 miles, 19 MPG daily driver. Mine. What else can I say? Oh, it runs like a dream.
I love that you guys team up every Saturday here lately!
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I will stick with my diesel, 2003 F250 7.3 powerstroke19 years, 335,000 miles and counting with no end in sight. No engine failures or major issues, gas just doesn't get there.
You got the dream truck. I love my obs 95 7.3. 420,000+ still chugging and has had a hard last 180,000 with a tuner.
Great info. With more miles on the truck, fuel mileage should get better. My 2017 Ram Dually mega cab 4x4 diesel just crossed 50,000 miles. Recent trip towing 20' trailer , tractor with Backhoe attachment and loader, box blade and Brush hog (11,000 lbs @) I averaged 14.5 mpg running 65 mpg max. Roads ranged from flat to very hilly. 350-mile trip.
I’m getting around 12 on a 2019 5500 4x4 single cab with a 9 ft utility bed that is not very loaded down. Currently has 23k on the clock, be interested to see if it gets better. Driving mostly on Northern California mountain roads with some flat highways scattered in there.
That's pretty much spot on what my '99 Cummins with 185k on it used to get pulling the same weight throught the Appalachians.
It's not that "the EPA doesn't want you to know" the mpg, it's that heavy duty trucks are exempt from having to report it. Big difference.
because the EPA does not oblige them to report consumption
These aren't heavy duty trucks. Trucks that are 3/4 and 1 ton rating are still "light duty" trucks. Many trucks with 22.5 tires are considered "medium duty" like my 26k Freightliner M2.
@Mark
OK Mr know-it-all.....call them what you'd like, but trucks 8500> GVWR are exempt from CAFE ratings.
Yeah, definitely a misleading title
That is correct, it even says it on the window sticker of a new truck.
You also need to do this identical test with the gasoline versions as well. This would showcase the difference in fuel economy between the gas and diesel options in these trucks.
no need. 6 to 7.
@@mikeh4053 what you mean no need? the new gas just got the 10 speed and its way more affordable over the diesel. they do this so we can actually compare the 2 and not just guess. Typical internet monkey...
@@gamingbandit2138 it's a 10k add for diesel. You get the 10k back when you sell plus the savings of fuel for as long as you own it. No tranny is bringing gas close to diesel performance and economy. Interweb truth.
@@mikeh4053plus the benefit of not being a parade starter only going 30mph climbing a grade on interstate under load.
I hauled a 10k of hay and the trailer with a 2020 6.6 gas and got 11 mpg as well
Great report and video! Very good to see real life numbers versus showroom salesmanship!
Always great with Mr. Truck and his protege
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I bought the 2022 Duramax AT4 3500. Let's just say the first thing that I did was drop the 36-gallon tank and installed the Titan 54 gallon tank. To be fair, I pull a 42 foot fifth wheel.
Hows it do with that trailer? 7-8?
@Automatic inquiries already did this run and the Silverado did a good job. He went over 160 miles and showed real world numbers over the IKE.
Mr Truck the gooseneck ball just behind the rear axle gives a better ride and leaves more room for a bigger tool box or aux fuel tank in the bed. I know at least one ford 350 guy that moved the hitch back just behind the axle for towing his 5th wheel camper and it helped the ride. Good to see you guys doing these again. Always enjoy Mr. Truck and Andre testing trucks I no longer have a need for but I am still interested in. Hope you guys stay safe and healthy.
Mr Truck and Andre make the best videos. 👍🏻👍🏻
Ya Those GaunLet✔️s.
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Mr. Truck it's always great to see you and get your comments on these new trucks so keep it up and TFL keep having Mr. Truck on you channel as a special quest !
Show us the 2024 6.6 gas version of 100 miler, and the Ike in a 2024 GM gasser. I would also like to see a practical tow test, you always max out the ratings. Most of us (in the west) buy trucks with the trailer in mind, and try to stay at 70-85% of the tow rating. Compare half tons with the typical camping load (7-9000), and 3/4 tons with 10000-13000.
I would love to see an MPG loop of a 'similar' diesel pickup from the 90's or 2000's before the EPA slapped all the emissions junk on them. Maybe something like a 2000's LLY or LBZ.
It would get the results you expect. Those low power output engines get significantly better MPG than the modern ones, not because of the diesel emmisons equipment but due to not demanding 1000lb-ft of torque any time your in the throttle. Early 6.6L duramax with 4x4 could easily get 24mpg hwy. The new one is around 18mpg.
Without emissions junk you would be smelling that junk only
@@troyg3439 not to mention the new trucks are bigger in every way and heavier.
Get a programmer andnturn that one down to 205 hp and 440 lb-ft torque and it would likely beat the early 90s trucks. No one would buy them. Well, likely a few but you wouldn't want to be caught behind them in a hilly area without passing lanes.
Don’t choose the LLY, it will overheat.
Banks, as in Banks turbo, have a great video where they dismantled a 2023 & 2024 6.6 DuraMax and compared them. You want the 2024 vs prior models. Especially if you are looking at a brand new 23 vs brand new 24 truck. There’s a lot of High Country (2500s especially) sitting on the lots so if you are in the market for a High Country, you have great choices. I would get a 2024!!
I much prefer the 1 ton or 3500 HD trucks so this should be a great video and baseline.
And it would get an extra 2mpg towing and 4mpg unladen and last 6-800k miles with some weight loss and tuning
These Saturday morning videos are making a LOT of people happy! What a great way to start the day.
Great Job Andre and Mr Truck ..... HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE ✌️
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Probably not new, but I have been out of the loop for a while - A clean cut Mr Truck; I didn’t recognize him until he spoke.
Now He Needs Sum⭐ BambooZLE SungLasses, Lol.
I'm in love
It would be cool for you guys to use that trailer and route for any truck that can tow 11,000 pounds. Would be cool to see how some of the half tons do.
The 6.2 GM does that around 6mpg
the 3.5 Ford does it around 5.2
And the ecodiesel ram is ~ 8.2
Source: data from my fleet.
Forget fuel mileage. Look at mantniece cost and repair. Love my 2008 cclb duramax. But would not buy a new diesel of any truck now as to much expensive junk and unreliable . Pick a truck you need not what you like . And don't jack them 😂
What a team … Andre & Mr. Truck 👌👍😉
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I think your new loop around Denver was a great idea!❤
This is a great data point. I agree with other comments where a longer loop is warranted. Also, make sure regenerations cycles are the same for all (included in the towing loop or not). Nice mileage!
But I LOVE where they put the 5th wheel..... because now I can pull my gooseneck with the short bed and not hit the cab of my truck! Come on Mr truck.... That was brilliant, not bad...... It tows great. At least on my 5th wheel which is 14,500. Course I'm using the gas truck too which pulls amazing. No more diesel for me.... Thanks EPA
I personally don’t think the gooseneck placement is in the wrong spot . Actually I find it perfect because us blue collar workers carry big tool boxes in our trucks . The extra spacing between the cab and gooseneck makes a huge difference when needing to tow our 5th wheels across the nation with our tool boxes . In my case it’s a good difference .
I feel the same about it. But I've got the geny goose box installed on my camper.
Agreed. They even tested how much weight having the ball farther back takes off the front end and at gross tongue weight it only took off about 100lbs. That extra space in the front of the bed is well worth the minor unloading of the front end. Especially on the short beds.
@@TheHwig nice, the Westin HD grill guard I added weights about 100lbs lol
If you are really particular about where the gooseneck hitch is in bed and must have drop in tool chest in front still. Wouldn’t a long bed configuration be ideal in 3500 or 2500
The extra room is nice but you can definitely feel a difference while towing. Our short bed Ram was more stable with the 5th wheel (I run a Goosebox on a 35' 5er).
No manufacturer wants you to know their HD fuel mileage! That’s why they don’t post it! But I’m happy with my Chevy HD mileage!
It’s a durajunk! I bought one new in 2005 and wad on a roll back at 1200 miles and this continued for 3 years every couple of months till I traded it in on a dodge w a Cummings 6.7
300 k and never been on a roll back dodge
They have come a long way since then
First, I understand time is always an issue but it would be much better to do a longer loop to get a better average consumption. 2 or 300 miles would be much more accurate. Second, it would be interesting to see comparisons of say half ton vs 3/4 ton for the 10,000 lb towing range. That's at the upper end for a half ton but with some now advertising 14K well within reach. Myself I wouldn't advise buying a half ton truck to tow that much weight very often but it would be interesting to see an actual comparison of how the two would stack up in comfort handling the load, ride comfort, and especially economy. The bigger truck should start off lower but take less of a hit with only a partial load vs the smaller truck working at maximum capacity.
Any variation on a 2 or 3x loop would be exclusively due to traffic and changes in wind/weather.
I can’t wait for you guys to test the new high output power stroke
Same been waiting on it forever
You can’t idle them for long. Has an auto shut off after like 20 minutes or so. No way to bypass from what I’ve heard.
They are regening every 300 miles. Still have a CP4, and have upper oil pan leaks new from the factory
My 2006 LBZ Duramax gets 12.5 towing 10,000. Y’all have fun spending $90,000 for fancy buttons and screens. The trucks aren’t all that much more capable than 17 years ago. It’s just a bunch of flash.
While I would venture to guess most people here agree with you, finding a 2006 with less than 250k miles can be a feat, and many people here work so much out of these trucks and put so many miles on them that in the 17 years they have owned 2 or 3 or maybe even 4 trucks like this and out 300k to 500k miles on each. Although they certainly don't make things like they used to, we get what we get these days.
Mr. TRUCK you are looking good sir! New haircut and squared away!
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My 01 duramax when paired with a bullydog got 17 pulling 17k. Loved that thing, rode like a car too
That's what I get out of my old 12 valve Cummins with ~ 300 hp pulling a 21,500 lbs. trailer!
People comment on the expense of these trucks. You either need one or you don’t. If you do, then the cost shouldn’t be a deterrent - if it is, whatever you are doing that you need a HD truck for , you aren’t charging enough. If you can’t write the check for it then it probably isn’t for you. It’s a business expense , and if it’s used as so , your business should be generating enough cash to use the write off and make the purchase. If not , stick with a old beater , or take a job working for a company where you can drive a Toyota to work
I used to get 12.5 towing a fifth wheel camper trailer @ 12.5klbs it is was pretty tall at 11ft. Loved that 06LBZ
11:23 you also missed GM gives 3500 the 12 inch rear axle with NO torque limiting. 2500HD gets 11.5 WITH torque limiting. GM is the only one that does this.
Still waiting for the 6.6 gas ike test
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When is the gas 6.6 with 10 speed Allison testing?
Always a pleasure to see you guys. Very knowledgeable
I read several places that the 10 speed is not actually made by allison, instead it was co-developed with ford, and shares lots of the same parts. they are also built inhouse at gm and not at allison factory. the allison name comes from the fact that allison put it thou inhouse testing and then licensed the name allison for use on the 2500/3500s. the 4500/5500 actually have an allison built trans.
Not the case for the HD trucks.
The 10 speed “Allison” is not built by Allison period it was developed and built by GMC period. Do a simple google search.
I am also more curious on the gas HD test everyone knows that the diesels are going to be able to do the work
I think it would get worse mileage. Depends on terrain. And obviously if driven the same as diesel version
You guys couldn’t be more wrong. The EPA doesn’t give a damn whether you know the mpg or not. Since it’s not required, the manufacturers don’t want you to know.
Ford and Chevy collaborated on the 10 speed & things went south at some point but when both units are disassembled side by side and it’s obvious the design is 95% identical but nothing is interchangeable between them ….. i was extremely disappointed when the mechanic pointed out all the ways the fords version was much more robust almost every step of the way & all those differences in the chevy was all the most common fail points! hopefully GM can get their act together and deliver a product worth the 60-90K sticker price
The collaboration was the light duty 10 speed (car and 1/2 ton trucks). The HD trans are different (10R and 10L).
Fun. My 17 year old truck brought 13mpg to the table from San Jose to Eugene, over all those passes, diving hard, wth a GCWR of 24,400 pounds on the state scale 3 years ago.
Nice video I really enjoy these and feel they are unbiased and honest. I have a 2500 22 ram with a close set up only 8k mini x. Thought about trading for a durmax. Really wish toyota would just build a 3/4 ton.
Been a awhile since I’ve been on TFL truck, but Mr. Truck I’m digging the new look, you probably gotta chase the ladies off.
Kent and Andre. My two favorites. Hope you two have your own show soon.
Sweet vehicle, I have a duramax lml and the 6.6 is nice. People should realize that you are never more than a $75 sensor away from the truck going into limp mode because of EPA regulations for diesels. In addition, all repairs are measured in increments of $1000. For example, a cheap repair like a new thermostat is only $1500.
I just had my sensor in front of the catalytic converter replaced and the converter manually cleaned. $76.00 for the sensor and the remaining cost of the $560.00 bill was for labor. I changed out my own thermostats a couple years ago for the cost of the thermostats from Rock Auto and the Walmart antifreeze. I've had an Edge Programmer for years. If I get a check engine light I can see what the code is and reset it while driving or parked. The programmer is about $500.00, but no limp mode ever. Plus, I can tune for mileage or power. 92K miles and counting.
Brother just learn to work on them your self. Thermostat is 45 min job
@@mattcaesar5781 you are right, lesson learned. I actually have replaced thermostats but it was January and I didn’t want to freeze.
We got our '24 AT4 (3500) about a month ago and took the 5th wheel (12,500lbs as measured on a CAT scale) out for the first time last weekend. The trip was short at just under 100 miles each direction and we averaged roughly 10.1mpg on the dash. The route is fairly flat and we maintained roughly 72mph (typically around 1700rpm). I never noticed the trans break 146 degrees. We have the short bed and I gotta say, it doesn't tow as composed as our Ram MegaCab short bed did; there is a little lateral wiggle that feels more like a travel trailer than a 5th which I figure is due to the pin placement in the GM but the tires could be part of the equation as well (I've never towed on Goodyears). Ride quality was very nice over road imperfections (we ran 28psi in the airbags to sit level) and cabin noise was quite low. Overall very happy with the truck but I wish they wouldn't have moved the pin back.
Have you noticed dead pedal in the 24 Duramax? I just did a test drive on a 24 LTZ. From a dead stop if you hit the throttle quick at least 1/4 or 1/3 down, it had dead pedal for almost 3 seconds. I mean i hardly responded then hit real hard. Also driving around the diesel just didn't seen responsive till it spooled up. I found it rather annoying. Seemed like a lot of turbo lag. What's your experience? Did the truck learn and improve?
@@CS-rb9jk It is very lazy until it hits about 1700rpm off idle. It doesn't matter how much throttle you give it, that just happens. I've considered a pedal monster but the more I drive it, the more I get used to it. Nowhere near 3 seconds but it's certainly noticeable. We only have 1300 miles on it but it hasn't changed at all.
@@madweazl The new 2024 has a new turbo actuator that is supposed to be very responsive and the engine upgrades are suppose to give it quicker and more low end but it doesn't seem like it.
@@CS-rb9jk I've never had another Duramax so I don't know what previous models were like. I've owned a 6.0 PSD (much the same with lag off idle) and a 6.7 PSD that was very responsive (more like a gas engine). I know the controller is supposed to be quicker and the torque is supposed to be available lower in the power band but that doesn't necessarily mean it would be more responsive. It bothered me initially but I hate less now that I'm getting used to it lol.
@@CS-rb9jk - try putting it in tow haul mode if it has that. Also, when it takes a crap when you push the throttle down, quickly let up and hit it again hard. If that doesn't work, get a Ram. It has a dead pedal too, but using the tricks I gave it at least wakes up. Drive by wire is sh!+. When I push down on the throttle, I want it to respond. All this effing money for these things, and they are like bulls with their nuts cut off. Don't work all that well.
Only 820 miles on the odometer. My experience with the trucks I've owned is a about a 15% improvement once that diesel breaks in. There are so many parts and friction points that after 5k on the odometer, things will loosen up and MPG will improve.
Believe it or not. I do have to say even the new modern trucks, they do have engines break in mileage or time. Very interesting.
I don't understand. We had 454 gas engines in 1 ton dually pickups with 220 hp, and 350 TQ back in the 90s, hauling 12,000 lbs. With a 4.11 rear axle. Getting 7-8 mpg hwy. Fast forward 30 years of technology. 6 more speeds of transmission, direct fuel injection, computers totally running the engine, a lower rear axle ratio, lower RPM, With higher torque, trailer, exhaust, braking systems and we gained a whole 3 mpg. And charge an additional $50,000 for this.! Come on.! But 14 camera angles. Makes up for it right.?! What a farce. We used to make fun of a high dollar pickup with lots of options, calling it a "Cowboy Cadillac ". Now it seams to be a nesscessity to have as many bells and whistles as you can get, just to tow a trailer.! How did we manage back in the 60s and 70's.
I still use my 82 with a 454 to tow like that and it works for me
Sad that they are so choked down, my 20 year old truck gets 13-15 mpg doing about the same load and 19-21 empty cruising. And doesn't cost almost as much as a house
So what
I live in Clio, Michigan but am from East Tennessee, we go back a few times a year I usually take my Wife’s 2019 GMC 2500 Crew Denali can drive from Home to Knoxville Tennessee on 3/4 of a Tank of Fuel, The Truck has a 36 gallon tank like the. Other Three we own and I have say we don’t let much grow under our feet. We make a (9) Nine hour Drive depending on Traffic in (7) Seven Hours.
these new hd chevys and gmc are mean looking and the interior is nice!
When are guys going to give an update on automotive inc video take down? When are you guys going to run the Ike with the gas 6.6 10 speed?
love to see the same test with the 6.6
Can’t wait to see these guys that actually time it correctly and don’t use cruise.
One of the benefits of GM listing the max trailer weight for a configuration is when you get pulled into a weigh station. If it was the actual max weight for your configuration you can get an overweight ticket, and perhaps required to unload some weight before they let you leave. So having a few hundred extra pounds on the sticker might save you an expensive ticket.
this is the way to start the morning is to watch the Fastlane truck.
My '05 Ram 5.9 Cummings will beat that, the worst I ever gotten was 13 mpg and I personally believe the head wind cost me a couple mpgs''. I don't want any of these new trucks that cost more and more and the materials are cheaper and will not hope up to the test of time.
I would like to see a 2024 Chevy 3500 gas with the new 10 spd Allison Transmission put through this same test. Thank you
I hope to see you testing a 2023 ford f350 with high output powerstroke diesel engine too
That's INSANE! I love that the newer powerplant gives you better mileage and more power... WOW!
So I like watching you guys, especially Andre and Mr Truck doing towing test. But you all really need to clarify this towing sticker.
It’s always been configuration specific so this very truck being a crew cab 4wd diesel 3500 SRW with 18” or 20” tires has a GCWR of 30,000. The GVWR is 12,100. The trucks payload was 3760 pounds meaning the truck weighs as shipped from the factory 8340 pounds. So 30,000-8,340= 21,660.
Now the sticker says 21,600 for gooseneck and 20,000 for conventional. So of course you have to allow for your weight as a driver but this is always the case for determining a tow rating. It can’t be VIN specific because everyone has a different body weight not to mention any stuff people carry along.
The GM sticker is the best in the business because it tells you your trucks configuration and then it’s up to the end user to determine at a scale, if their trailer and setup fits that. I just can’t understand the complaint here. If that truck had 17” wheels those numbers would be different. If it was 2WD those numbers would be different. If it was a long bed those numbers would be different. And with the tow sticker you don’t have to look at the owners manual or an online configurator to determine your ratings.
Would like to see the same test with a heavy duty gas truck.
@17:11 (towing ~11k lb. trailer): $41.02 for 9.768 gal. = $4.199/gal
The only difference vs the 2500/3500 is the 2 overload springs on top of the main spring pack and the overload chairs on the frame (for the springs to rest on)
Bigger ring gear on the 3500.
@@garysarratt1 where would I find that information at? I have always understood they have the same axle.
@@AveryExcavating yeah they have a bigger ring gear .
@@AveryExcavating I don’t know where, but I understand it’s a 12” vs a 11.5”, or somesuch.
@@garysarratt1I’m probably wrong, but I thought the dually was 12” and srw was 11.5”
My 2021 GMC Crew 2500 gets 26 mpg. It was 22 mpg. Strait out of the Gate. I have a 19 same body truck gets just about same. My 2014. 3500 Single Wheel gets 21 to 23 depending.
It’d be great if you could test a custom L8T vs L5P
Down 225ft lbs torque to the HO PowerStroke, thats a significant difference.
90% of consumers don't need the power that the duramax makes lol
I think this 100 plus mile loop is the minimum for a good mileage run because it should allow for a regeneration cycle.
100 miles barely makes a dent in my soot accumulation when towing. 500-600 is pretty normal, sometimes longer
I think it would just be a coincidence if they caught a regen during the video. I would hope soot control is at least as efficient as my 6 year Ram. My older ram (2017) would only regen about every 24 engine hours, which worked out to about every 1,000 miles for my type of driving. My 2011 ram would regen around every 200 miles or so. The ‘22 F350 I drive at work goes at least 500 miles between regens (too much idle time).
@@aussiek2000 my thoughts exactly. I can go through entire tank of fuel in my 2500 and it only regens once if I let it get up to 70% SL
Depending on what this truck SL % was at when they started test would determine that. Which ultimately would drastically change test results
Forget about how much noise the engine makes does that exhaust brake work or not ???
It's effective in the lower gears (can certainly feel a difference). I've never owned another GM so I can't say how it compares to previous iterations but you can definitely tell it's working when you have a trailer behind you.
You neeed to include axle gearing on these test
Keep in mind that per the owners manual, it’s recommended to only use the tow mode if the GVWR is over 75% as fuel mileage may be as good if you do. That means around 14-15,000 lbs for the trailer weight…roughly. At least that’s what it is for my 2500.
75% of the truck gvw, not 75% of gcvw
@@rizaptor7005 sorry but you’re wrong. I’d did incorrectly sat GVRW but See the manual on page 292 posted on the GMC website. It clearly states GCWR.
@robertjf9900 well that's probably something new for the "Allison" in badge only. The actual Allison transmissions were always 75% and over of truck gvwr. And it also doesn't hurt anything to use it
@@rizaptor7005 maybe. I tow a ~8;500lb trailer and it revs out a bit much. Seems to tow better with it off.
@robertjf9900 your truck, make it work how you want. Best of luck and enjoy
Duramax has never been known for fuel mileage. The redesign on the engine sure helped it appears
I got 12.5 towing my 20ft open deck with 4000lb car on rural back roads (160mi round trip), 9.5mpg towing 9000lb enclosed on highway (200mi). 2022 dually duramax
Where you driving fast? Towed a hair over 13k(2011 RR Ghost, 2021 Chevrolet bolt EV, 3400 lb open center trailer) 149 mi at 16.2 mpg 65 mph with a 3.0 diesel. Been wanted to upgrade but based on what ive been reading id get worse mpg.. trip started at 62' elevation, ended at 302' elevation with a few peaks at 1,014' ele.
That is about the same mpg as my 30,000 lb Rv with a 454 TBI. I did put a banks power pack on it.
Damn, Mr. Truck has lost a lot of weight! I remember when he started his weight loss journey a couple years ago. Great work!
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Looks like Mr truck has been working out!!!
Thanks, I walk 2 miles a day now. Going to be a Sexy Beast
Nothing special with that result. My old 2000 F250 with 7.3 power stroke did that hauling my skid steer. Not much improvement with the new stuff. Curios to see the others. Good video guys. I had a 96’ Dodge V-10 before my power stroke. It got 12 mpg empty and 10 mpg hauling
It’s all that emissions crap.
This truck has emissions, weighs more than your f250 & has nearly double hp/tq. Your f250 would’ve also been over its tow rating with this trailer/skid steer configuration. I’m not saying it couldn’t do it & hasn’t been done plenty of times, just pointing out that a lot has changed in truck capabilities in 23 years. Plus, for whatever reason, mpg’s seem to be about the equivalent to fish stories for most people. I see some where people tow a trailer 30 miles on a tank & call that their “towing mileage” or other obviously outlandish claims.
10mpg towing with the V10? Bahahaha! Put the glass pipe down because unless you were going downhill or pulling in space, it never got 10mpg with a trailer behind it.
@@madweazl the best I ever got out of my v10 excursion was 11 mpg on the freeway without a trailer.
The only thing I liked about the whole video is the Sinclair fuel station; I thought they were extinct; Nice to see Dino still around. As far as the truck very nice all around, But $ 83,000 get real! No thank you.& that's coming from a Chevrolet guy that owns 7 of them, & 2 of them are trucks; 03 1500, & a 99 C/3500 dually; With a dump bed on it. Both are gasoline; A 5.3, & a 5.7.
I had a 1988 chevy truck 3/4 ton once and a friend had a 1988 1/2 ton and the only difference I could see between the two was my truck had higher ply tires on it
10K lbs 100 miles, I like it. Thanks guys.
How much DEF did the Duramax use? Really need to factor that into the fuel stats since it is a key element of the driving costs per mile. I wonder how the L8T gasser would compare - no DEF and no regen cycles and has a 10-speed as well now.
Ours has 1301 miles on it and has 6 of 8 "blips" left on the DEF gauge. Best guess, each "blip" is roughly 12.5% so we have used 25% at this point. That equals roughly 5200 miles per tank of DEF. Capacity seems to be 6-7g on previous models but I'm not positive on the '24. If 7, it adds roughly $45 to your 5200 miles (roughly 11 tanks of fuel depending on use). Fuel (at $3.49/g which is typical here) would run about $1225 for those 11 tanks or $1275 with DEF added (less than 4% increase in total cost with DEF added).
@@madweazl That's just it - I can't compare my 3.0 duramax DEF consumption with the big boys but the cost of DEF is minimal. I typically see about 5000 miles per tank with just over 30K on it now ('22 4x4 Silverado). 2.5 gallons of DEF is less than $10 at walmart anywhere in the country. I find most people complaining about the cost of DEF, or other added costs (fuel filter, etc) have never actually owned one.
DEF cost is nothing get real even with towing heavy a couple boxes last 3000 miles and if you’re not carrying an extra chromosome you can find it to $10-12/box. Thats $0.008/mile
Time to get rid of DEF, the side effects is that it kills bumble bees. I know I know, some little buzzer who cares. Then slowly their goes ALL of our needed plants. Please don’t tell B.Gates this or he’ll pay off some bureaucrat to have DEF in gas cars.
My favorite TFL team!
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Would love to see the trailer cameras on the different trucks.
I think André nailed it with his efficiency versus power output comment. My Duramax gets 3 mpg less than my 2022 F350 SRW did. This is an average over the last 12,000 miles. Love the Chev!
3mpg less, love the Chev?
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do you mean 3 mpg better?
@@CS-rb9jk Chevy is worse
Please test the new 2024 Silverado/Denali 1500 3.0L Duramax with the same load on the same route... I'm interested in that! My expectation is to see close to 20 mpg. The 10K load is the typical load I'm at.
Great video gentlemen! Thanks! Its good to see. 😅
Mr truck and Mr truck jr you better not split these two up TFL😂
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My ol 92 f250 has 34 gallon rear Tank front tank 19 gallon tank don't pull over for fuel much. Thanks Ford❤❤❤❤
Enjoy all your videos but you all need to apologize to automatic inquiries for unwarranted business decisions. There are better ways to approach things you feel infringe.
the reason gmc’s trailer brake is lower is so you can rest your arm while you brake. Unlike the chevy where you float your arm
I get 16 fully loaded 26 to 28 no trailer no load. 2006 cummins.
2:36 That watch is very cool.
My new 3/4 ton 1200 miles barely pulling 11-12 unladen 9-10 pulling 35’ 5th wheel
Hi, you’re towing 10k with a new truck with barely 800 miles. What about the brake in process?
I have come to a point that if i have to pay a house mortgage for a vehicle and have the damn emissions fail and leave me stranded out of state ( which has happened to me) then i am just going to lease the damn thing. The idea of buying an older truck and having a mechanic completely restore the truck for 40k seams much more appealing to me
2500HD's do not have aux/overload springs. That is the difference as far as I know.
That's just a bit better than my 2500 RAM with the 6.4 Hemi. I get 10.5 mpg hauling a 10,000lb 5th wheel.