@@OrbitalAnnihilatorRagnarok Compared to the older games, no, but compared to the rest of the trash in this game, yes. Rest of them can barely even down a party member.
Weird, I never released that if you defend with Sveta in beast mode that she would actually defend the whole party. Wish I would of known that playing through the game.
whenever i fight chaos chimera, he uses retribution almost every turn, and every time he uses it, at least one of my members gets downed immediately. he was a pain in the ass because of that
Doom Dragon was harder but you got so lucky in the beginning of the fight, every time I fight him he uses retribution and drains my entire party's souls
My team for easily beating this battle using base classes. Matthew with Sol Blade and all the crit gear you can muster by this point, with all lucky pepper used on him. 800+ damage most turns. Karis / Rief for healing. Karis heals a little less but has acces to the Kite-djinn (double-turn on Matthew or Sveta) in her base class, and is faster. Sveta for super-powered Beastform-attacks. Himi for using Weapon Grace on Matthew and Sveta, or reviving if something goes wrong.
@DJ4Miggy I'm currently at the apollo sanctum, I'm not going to go into the final battle until all my characters reach max level, 99, and idc how long it will take me, my party of 8 will learn all the powerful psynergy, like Grand Gaia, Pyroclasm, Megacool, spark plasma and so on.
@turtwig077 Did u also know that using the A.R is risky? I tried it on my dragon quest ix DS game cause I was having trouble with a certain boss, so I used it to give my character the abilities I needed to use to defeat him, so I did defeat that boss and eventually made it to the final boss. Then I try to turn on my DS one day to beat the final boss, it didn't work, I realized the A.R had corrupted my game file by changing it's code. So I had delete that adventure log and start fresh, it sucked!
I can´t help picturing in my head, how would a golden sun would look on an HD console... a remake, perhaps... along with a sequel to this one... :D happy thoughts, indeed
Oh my god, I hate Retribution so much. I've had moments where my entire party gets one-shotted by it. The reason Dark Dawn is easy is because it's a lot more forgiving than the previous two games. There is a difficulty spike when the eclipse begins, but it can still be easy, or hard-- depending on how good the player is at the game. I have the game because my friend didn't bother searching for any Djinn-- he got stuck on the Mountain Roc, so he gave the game to me for my birthday. I was able to get past the Mountain Roc first try because I actually searched for Djinn and got some. I didn't get all of them, but I did basically complete the game on my second playthrough, except for this one summon I missed on accident.
@Swordmaster1993 Well it might have to do with how old it is, or how long you've had it. Cuz I used it on mine, and it worked fine. Although there were some minor errors, like falling off cliffs, and such, or whatever. What do you mean by changing its code? Do u mean the game code, or the code for your game cheats? Some of them work for a limited time, and might just disappear. It happened to me, when I put in a code, and then the next day ALL of the codes were missing. So yeah it MIGHT be risky
@CyberMaroon but only targets2-3 person. shadow clast is more like nerved cruel ruin based on damage and animations. what make this boss crazy that it could uses shadow clast/ chaos upheaval twice if he wants.
I believe my strategy for this fight was mainly the beast girl; she can easily dish out upwards of 3k with one attack while in beast mode, get out the dragon girl and use her strengthen on beast girl. Forgive me as ive forgotten thier names because its been so long since I played, but I straight just beat the wolves face in with her and it was pretty simple. Didnt have to summon all too much and had chasm ready on my dragon chick. Made the fight altogether easy to deal with.
my party was mid 60s to early 70s and it alsoo helps to have collected the most djinn possible because if u have enough u can use all your strong summons heck just use all the summons i start with the weaker side of my party (karis, tyrell, rief, and himi) use all the summons and when u run out of djinn fuel just keep attacking with your strongest attacks, psynergy, etc. and dont switch out keeping attacking till' they're all dead and use all your summons again on your strong set of the party.
I was really underlevelled at like an average of 45 and the boss used retribution(and took the life of seveta) shadow clash and then chaos upheaval and practically killed those four. The others somehow defeated it but I just spammed the summons :p
@Swordmaster1993 Um, you learn Grand Gaia at level 54, pyroclasm at level 48 or 50, megacool at about 50, and spark plasma at 50. Do u really need to be that high of a level? Once u reach to about level 48 then u will need 100,000 exp, so that is why the ar is useful. There is a cheat that multiplies the experience you have gotten from an enemy by 128!! When I fought Blados & Chalis in the tower, I gained over 2,000,000 exp! :)
okay... I have all my characters (Main Character, Sveta, Karis, and Rief up to 53-57) but not matter what I do I cannot beat him... I've tried 7 times and I cannot beat him. What am I doing wrong?
tips: try to had two sages on the game (mercury adept: 6 jupiter, 2 water, jupiter: vice versa) on amiti and karis since because of the pure wish. it's vital for countering his chaos upheaval (which is multitarget formina sage/fulmious edge on the game). and had those sages lv 46 because that's when they learn pure wish. i see no problem after that.
Chaos Chimera appeared Kari's casts tempest Chaos Chimera took 194 damage Matthew casts Odyssey Chaos Chimera took 269 damage Sveta casts beastform Eoleo's Hercules' Axe unleashed its Olympus Rage
First time playthrough: wow, the music is different...must be an "epic boss" or something... [beat the boss, Ending sequence] and them i was: WHAT!? That was the final boss O_O!? This guy doesn't look like a final boss at all!! he is kinda hard but...comparing to other games final bosses, this one is the most normal looking ...
@Arthion Chaos Chimera for example could have been a very nice final boss, if it would just stop wasting turns using Blados and Chalis feckin items or shielding.
You know, I'm curious. To those who have played Lost Age, you're well aware of where to get Sol Blade. So riddle me this...if Felix/Isaac was the last to have it, how did it get to the Apollo Sanctum?
If you want an optimal setup, run the 2/7 djinn set for everyone (optimizes their classes) although you can mix and match. Personally I ran a Sveta heavy setup where I had 2 buffers increase Sveta's stats while she used her beast form. Having her as a gladiator is crucial because her ramped up stats are godlike. Using her skills (Psynergy can't be evaded), she can easily output 1000+ damage a turn with Matthew pulling his weight with the Sol Blade.
I think the biggest reason for deaths on this boss is simply because you just don't expect it, I know I didn't. I was way overpowered for every other boss, the game was a cakewalk for me, then all of a sudden, this boss comes out and starts wiping my people out before I realize what's going on. lol
Haven't played Dark Dawn... but seriously... they gave you the chance of healing yourself before the final battle ?... Dear lord.. I think someone got soft with time...
@SirenNecko1 Do what I do.... Don't change Djinni... Let them be their own Elemental Masters.... Matthew, for Earth, Karis for WInd, Rief for Water, and Tyrell for Fire. You need to think strategically on what the guy will use. Try and use all support once every round (Def first, then Resist, then power) And so on. Heal if necessary. Then start summoning, and use the psynerny accordingly. You don't wanna be stuck on fighting with no PP :p
I don't understand how did you guys beat this boss easily. I just can't. Summon rush? Dosen't work, even if I make like 1500 damages and combined summons (like the yellow dragon who shoot electric lasers, I forgot his name ) he dosen't give a sh*t. Retribution... Kill automaticly one of the party member... Seriously? He used like 2 times in this video but when I fight him, it's his favourite attack! And what is the level of your party members to dodges his attacks?! He just have to use, Retribution, Shadow Clash and Chaos Upheaval and my whole party is gone! How?! Just how can you beat a boss like that?! And I'll don't talk about his HP, maybe a billion.
+Y-Power Try using the djinni Shell and Void. Use Matthew to attack, heal and revive. use Sveta to attack and use Karis and Tyrrel for Void and Shell. Void absorbs nearly all damage and shell helps alot too.
I know I’m 3 years late to the party, but just want to introduce my favorite team to every boss. Basically just ramp up Matthew and Sveta’s base attack as much as possible with Djinn stat boosts, gear. Take in Himi for Weapon Grace and use it (twice for full attack boost) everytime either Matthew or Sveta’s attack goes back to normal. For Matt, keep using the Sol Blade for Megiddo, and Sveta’s Beastform. Revive with Matt and Himi when needed. For the third party member, choose a healer, any will do. Make sure to have reviving, shielding, healing, djinn-restoring and stunning Djinn equipped on these characters as well. Just keep attacking like this with your priorities being Revive, Heal, Djinn recovery, Attack Boost, Attack (Matt with normal, Sveta with Beast), Shield, Stun, Summon in that order and you’ll be able to take it down in no time. It’s all about making use of each character’s strengths and utility in a well rounded team instead of just going all out attack and focusing on summons. Using Megiddo and Beastform continuously outshines the damage output of using Djinn for a strong summon.
@Abysia well I playedt he original golden sun. but I was young and couldn't reached end cause I got lost after the great dessert. it ruined the whole experience for me so I skipped the second one.
@mifdsam oh ok, but I come across either 2 or 3 tua warriors giving me 27k or 41k exp, making my level up very fast, right now my party is in the 50s with leveling.
@Swordmaster1993 Doesn't take very long to reach max level in Dark Dawn, lol Only need about 8M exp for level 99, and considering tua warriors give about 18k exp each when djinn killed, yeah Only took me about 3 hours to grind to 99
It's called Summon Rushing. If you use a particular summon that is attached to the same element, you get extra damage of that. Kinda similar with Pokemon when a pokemon used a attack move that is the same type(s) of the Pokemon itself.
this boss was annoying but wouldnt say hard the first time i fought him was the time i beat him this was a long time ago so i thought id play it again for the lols. i beat him again in one go XD. i just used bark,shell,chasm,gears,vine,breath,surge,brick,dewdrop,fleet,torrent,pewter,garland,tear drop,glow,buckle,tinder,foam,granite,sizzle and kite. having all those defences and revival djinns for back up really helped and the extra agility buffs and debuffs just made it so i could take him down really fast.
@Link64 that is so true. doom dragon just kept frustrating me everytime i fought it cause it was my favorite boss to fight. ^_^ now i wish my golden sun TLA game never got ruined. it was a day that i morned its death.
I know this is an old video, but needless to say I struggled with this final boss. Took several weeks to beat at like level 80. Some say this was easy but I guess I must be bad at this type of stuff huh.
@@Miggy So I booted up my game after several years and I don't think my gear was bad, I was just extremely stupid. Welp, I guess I'll try my luck with Dullahan, the last boss that I have to beat.
Nice. The gear that I had equipped on this video was bad, which is why I struggled so much, lol. Fix that and I cleaned house with all the optional bosses left in the game.
YUJI NAKA MADE THE FINAL BOSS SO FUCKING HARD I CAN'T EVEN BEAT CHAOS CHIMERA EVEN ON LEVEL 60 HE HAS WAY TOO MANY HEALTH I USED SUMMONS ON THIS GUY HOPING HIS HEALTH WOULD DEPLETE BUT HE HAS MORE THAN I THOUGHT. HOW MANY HEALTH DID YUJI NAKA GIVE HIM WHEN HE CREATED THIS GAME 99889 BILLION?
Reasons this boss was crap compared to the other games' final bosses: 1: You could get yourself ready for it; the first two games after the fight with the main antagonists, their final form followed right after! There was no "Are you ready, or do you need to heal everyone and set your djinn and heal all psyenergy first?" bull that this game has. 2: The boss's basic attacks can be AVOIDED!? Oh and the other, HE USES MOSTLY THE BASIC ATTACK!!! Seriously, why would the final boss of this game just attack for one whole turn without doing something life threatening? The music was honestly the best part. 3: The only somewhat annoying attacks (Besides Djinn Blast/Storm) that were in this battle were Retribution (The Death Scythe of this game) and Chaos Upheaval. Shadow Clash had nothing on Cruel Ruin or even Outer Space. 4: All basic summons did WAY more damage then they should have. Boreas was pulling nearly 1500 a summon! 1500!!! The RNG Goddess could hate you and you'd still win. 5. Sheva, despite how much I love her, is too overpowered. In beast mode she can deal nearly 1000 a normal attack on this guy, which is absurd. I love this game dearly and this comes from someone who really wants GS4 made for people other than 10 year olds. Please Camelot, bring back the Golden Sun your old fan base would still buy if it looked even remotely challenging.
+thunderstones1 1) Lost Age didn't have consecutive battles for final fight. 2) It actually has less junk attack than either Fusion Dragon or Doom Dragon. Fusion Dragon also uses normal attacks, and three or four rather weak status spells. Doom Dragon has a LOT of junk spells in first two forms, and even the last one likes to waste turns doing things like Earth Force, Nettle or Stone Spire. This thing's only junk skills are its regular attack and Wicked Howl. It also gets three turns unlike Fusion Dragon or Doom Dragon third phase. 3) Shadow Clash is actually just a bit weaker than Cruel Ruin (70+40%maxHP instead of 200+40%maxHP). It's still a really hard hitting attack. The thing though is that it has two attacks like this (Chaos Upheaval is the other one) and it can use them twice, or maybe all three times out of its three turns. (And forget Fusion Dragon; its "summon" attacks don't even scale to characters' max HP so it's way weaker.) 4) Summons' base power is proportional to the enemy's HP so it only does more damage when the enemy has more HP. Summons are overpowered in general but that applies to the entire franchise, not just this game. 5) Beastform is overpowered for a good reason; it's essentially an alternative to summon so it has to match up to that at least. In any case there's clearly at least some attempt to balance it out; its attacks are overwhelmingly Venus aligned which a lot of late game bosses are heavily resistant to. As far as I can tell, this game isn't much easier than its previous installments. It's easier to GRIND to a higher level but pound for pound the last boss and optional bosses are not any easier. Some midgame bosses in this game are ridicluously weak, but then again no one exactly remembers, say, Kraken or Moapa for frequently giving Game Overs or something either.
Speak for yourself moron this boss is hard as shit it can kill me in three hits even after ive tried so many times exchanging djinni. Idk if your supposed to be past level 50 but christ this thing isn't easy in the slightest
No, this boss is amazing, really challenging and too broken. And no matter what you said DD is way better than the first ones Golden Sun. Saying that the game is a joke because it lets you prepare for the final fight is so stupid.
In the first 2 games I have to constantly use Djinn and Summons and Revive to win the final boss. In Dark Dawn all it took was normal attacks and heal. This boss is WAY easier than the previous ones!
Just like the Doom Dragon, just keep 1 or 2 healers in there :p and I am sure you will get there, unless u get spammed with Djinn Storm xD He was pretty hard, but not impossible =] I liked the battle though :p
@HatoburekaSutajio I'm glad someone liked it. I honestly thought it was the worst in the series and generally very bad game :( Besides all the things you said (like the abysmal plot), I didn't personally like the graphics and hated how swords have more than one unleash (an unnecessary gimmick, only slowed you down), and I'll never forgive the fact that you can miss Djinn. If that's not all, they added only 1 new summon, and I dunno, felt very recycled to me. Hope they do better with the sequel.
i beat this guy at lvl 99 all characters and best weapons and armor and stuff and the best class set up here are the best class set up Paladin for matthew and susa's daughter(which i forget her name) and Ronin for Tyrell and Eleo and pure mage for karis and rief
I went to crossbone isle and fought a bunch of dragons there plus I got some rare material to forge some pretty powerful weapons and armor so I'm over lvl 80 and with every powerful weapon and armor equipped to my teams and fighting him wasn't that hard
Yes , and she gain extra Health/damage/armor , but each turn , use one Djinni and lose Health/Damage (Lose rank) This Boss is really strong , you need a strong heal , a his Retribution is really , REALLY hard to counter dat insta-kill of the team And when i fight him , when i use so many time for prepare a powerful summon : *Doom Dragon use Shadow shield* Make me mad =_=
no way doom dragon was harder than this...wait was that the dragon in lost age or in the first golden sun? if it was the one in lost age i might agree but the golden sun was easy, this boss was ridiculously hard
This guy was a pain in the ass, maybe because I didnt summon rush him. The boss difficulty in this game is pretty silly, all these easy pushovers then you get to this. IMO, Doom Dragon was more of a challenge.
@HatoburekaSutajio I get you. The graphics seemed too cartoony and bland for me (especially since GS 1 & 2 had amazing detail) and having more than one unleash makes it IMHO less special and clumsy. But yeah, I didn't finish the game, got fed up shortly after meeting Briggs. Pretty much the worst JRPG I've played, which hurts because GSTLA is my fave.
just put 8 of each djinn on standby and use two rounds of ultimate summoning on his ass. after that you only need to hit him once with megiddo or sveta and hes as good as dead. i did that in the low 50s
I hate that they let you "prepare" for this battle...I liked Dark Dawn but it is a far cry from the epicness of GS1 and Lost Age...where you summon rushing the final boss nearly guaranteed your death >:)
![Golden Sun: Dark Dawn - All Summons Collection [HD 720p]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/9VwT8qhVFLQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Sadly the only boss in the game (besides Dullahan) that actually packs a punch.
this boss doesnt pack a punch at all...
@@OrbitalAnnihilatorRagnarok Compared to the older games, no, but compared to the rest of the trash in this game, yes. Rest of them can barely even down a party member.
@@Arthion an enemy in this game can down a party member? OMG WHO???
This 12 years ago help me in 4-4-2023
I remember doing the strongest summon over & over, finishing the fight in a few turns as a kid.
yes
Doom Dragon uses Djinn Storm!
Doom Dragon uses Cruel Ruin!
Me: FUUUUUUUUUU-
I always hated that combo >:V
Weird, I never released that if you defend with Sveta in beast mode that she would actually defend the whole party. Wish I would of known that playing through the game.
Sveta's Beast form takes one Djinni for each turn she is in that form. So, the more Djinn you have on set, the longer she stays that way.
Fr?
Yes
I never knew this ever playing through the game. That explained why her dijnn were always gone
4:42 i dont know why ie that funny to me
Thats funny to me too pal
It disappoints me that the fight doesn't begin with the screen shattering like glass, like with the final bosses of the previous 2 games.
it disapoints me that you cant loose in this game
@@OrbitalAnnihilatorRagnarokthen why the hell can I never beat this boss? It’s been years and I never could beat it lmao
@@Cursedsoul01 its easy to beat him solo with matthew only and no summons. this game is a joke.
whenever i fight chaos chimera, he uses retribution almost every turn, and every time he uses it, at least one of my members gets downed immediately. he was a pain in the ass because of that
Ebon Flare ALWAYS, Its so so annoying!!
+Ebon Flare EXACTLY THE SAME FOR ME!!!!
agreed
Doom Dragon was harder but you got so lucky in the beginning of the fight, every time I fight him he uses retribution and drains my entire party's souls
My team for easily beating this battle using base classes.
Matthew with Sol Blade and all the crit gear you can muster by this point, with all lucky pepper used on him. 800+ damage most turns.
Karis / Rief for healing. Karis heals a little less but has acces to the Kite-djinn (double-turn on Matthew or Sveta) in her base class, and is faster.
Sveta for super-powered Beastform-attacks.
Himi for using Weapon Grace on Matthew and Sveta, or reviving if something goes wrong.
I'm glad we used the same party :)
Amiti was so fun, with his masamune :D
Amiti is too good, yoo
@DJ4Miggy I'm currently at the apollo sanctum, I'm not going to go into the final battle until all my characters reach max level, 99, and idc how long it will take me, my party of 8 will learn all the powerful psynergy, like Grand Gaia, Pyroclasm, Megacool, spark plasma and so on.
I miss this game i played so much of it as a kid
I had to do that too D: and it kept doing to same thing,DYING!
@turtwig077 Did u also know that using the A.R is risky? I tried it on my dragon quest ix DS game cause I was having trouble with a certain boss, so I used it to give my character the abilities I needed to use to defeat him, so I did defeat that boss and eventually made it to the final boss. Then I try to turn on my DS one day to beat the final boss, it didn't work, I realized the A.R had corrupted my game file by changing it's code. So I had delete that adventure log and start fresh, it sucked!
15:01 we are the last ones standing.
I can´t help picturing in my head, how would a golden sun would look on an HD console... a remake, perhaps... along with a sequel to this one... :D happy thoughts, indeed
2020 might be the year they finally announce something
Golden sun hd collection with a fourth ending game :)
I wonder if there will be another Golden Sun game
It’s been 11 years since this one. Looking kinda grim.
Oh my god, I hate Retribution so much. I've had moments where my entire party gets one-shotted by it.
The reason Dark Dawn is easy is because it's a lot more forgiving than the previous two games. There is a difficulty spike when the eclipse begins, but it can still be easy, or hard-- depending on how good the player is at the game.
I have the game because my friend didn't bother searching for any Djinn-- he got stuck on the Mountain Roc, so he gave the game to me for my birthday. I was able to get past the Mountain Roc first try because I actually searched for Djinn and got some. I didn't get all of them, but I did basically complete the game on my second playthrough, except for this one summon I missed on accident.
@Swordmaster1993 Well it might have to do with how old it is, or how long you've had it. Cuz I used it on mine, and it worked fine. Although there were some minor errors, like falling off cliffs, and such, or whatever. What do you mean by changing its code? Do u mean the game code, or the code for your game cheats? Some of them work for a limited time, and might just disappear. It happened to me, when I put in a code, and then the next day ALL of the codes were missing. So yeah it MIGHT be risky
this thing is a freak of nature
@CyberMaroon
but only targets2-3 person. shadow clast is more like nerved cruel ruin based on damage and animations. what make this boss crazy that it could uses shadow clast/ chaos upheaval twice if he wants.
I believe my strategy for this fight was mainly the beast girl; she can easily dish out upwards of 3k with one attack while in beast mode, get out the dragon girl and use her strengthen on beast girl. Forgive me as ive forgotten thier names because its been so long since I played, but I straight just beat the wolves face in with her and it was pretty simple. Didnt have to summon all too much and had chasm ready on my dragon chick. Made the fight altogether easy to deal with.
@Swordmaster1993 well, they give 14k when killed normally, but 18k if you kill them with a djinn unleash
This boss is actually pretty cool
my party was mid 60s to early 70s and it alsoo helps to have collected the most djinn possible because if u have enough u can use all your strong summons heck just use all the summons i start with the weaker side of my party (karis, tyrell, rief, and himi) use all the summons and when u run out of djinn fuel just keep attacking with your strongest attacks, psynergy, etc. and dont switch out keeping attacking till' they're all dead and use all your summons again on your strong set of the party.
doom dragon is a nightmare at first with that cruel ruin in every round
What's the point of uploading a Golden Sun fight when you skip all the summons?
@DJ4Miggy took me and hour couldnt win or die so i just gave up. so should i grind more?
I was really underlevelled at like an average of 45 and the boss used retribution(and took the life of seveta) shadow clash and then chaos upheaval and practically killed those four. The others somehow defeated it but I just spammed the summons :p
@Swordmaster1993 Um, you learn Grand Gaia at level 54, pyroclasm at level 48 or 50, megacool at about 50, and spark plasma at 50. Do u really need to be that high of a level? Once u reach to about level 48 then u will need 100,000 exp, so that is why the ar is useful. There is a cheat that multiplies the experience you have gotten from an enemy by 128!! When I fought Blados & Chalis in the tower, I gained over 2,000,000 exp! :)
okay... I have all my characters (Main Character, Sveta, Karis, and Rief up to 53-57) but not matter what I do I cannot beat him... I've tried 7 times and I cannot beat him. What am I doing wrong?
tips: try to had two sages on the game (mercury adept: 6 jupiter, 2 water, jupiter: vice versa) on amiti and karis since because of the pure wish. it's vital for countering his chaos upheaval (which is multitarget formina sage/fulmious edge on the game). and had those sages lv 46 because that's when they learn pure wish. i see no problem after that.
i have a lv. 31 team. is it possible to win?
Chaos Chimera appeared
Kari's casts tempest
Chaos Chimera took 194 damage
Matthew casts Odyssey
Chaos Chimera took 269 damage
Sveta casts beastform
Eoleo's Hercules' Axe unleashed its Olympus Rage
I beat Chaos Chimera at level 50 without any summons and i had Rief kept healing the party members like crazy until i beat him.
Tsss beat that guy at Level 55 just summoning Djinn Combos like a noob but it worked perfectly well for me
@DJ4Miggy ooh love that tech
First time playthrough: wow, the music is different...must be an "epic boss" or something...
[beat the boss, Ending sequence]
and them i was: WHAT!? That was the final boss O_O!?
This guy doesn't look like a final boss at all!! he is kinda hard but...comparing to other games final bosses, this one is the most normal looking ...
@Arthion Chaos Chimera for example could have been a very nice final boss, if it would just stop wasting turns using Blados and Chalis feckin items or shielding.
Oh how I love Pack Defense.
You know, I'm curious. To those who have played Lost Age, you're well aware of where to get Sol Blade. So riddle me this...if Felix/Isaac was the last to have it, how did it get to the Apollo Sanctum?
dunno ask th3 developers
how come u never used crystallux(what ever its called) or any of the dual-elemental djinn summons???
If you want an optimal setup, run the 2/7 djinn set for everyone (optimizes their classes) although you can mix and match.
Personally I ran a Sveta heavy setup where I had 2 buffers increase Sveta's stats while she used her beast form. Having her as a gladiator is crucial because her ramped up stats are godlike. Using her skills (Psynergy can't be evaded), she can easily output 1000+ damage a turn with Matthew pulling his weight with the Sol Blade.
I think the biggest reason for deaths on this boss is simply because you just don't expect it, I know I didn't. I was way overpowered for every other boss, the game was a cakewalk for me, then all of a sudden, this boss comes out and starts wiping my people out before I realize what's going on. lol
Haven't played Dark Dawn... but seriously... they gave you the chance of healing yourself before the final battle ?... Dear lord.. I think someone got soft with time...
@SirenNecko1 Do what I do.... Don't change Djinni... Let them be their own Elemental Masters.... Matthew, for Earth, Karis for WInd, Rief for Water, and Tyrell for Fire.
You need to think strategically on what the guy will use. Try and use all support once every round (Def first, then Resist, then power) And so on.
Heal if necessary.
Then start summoning, and use the psynerny accordingly. You don't wanna be stuck on fighting with no PP :p
I don't understand how did you guys beat this boss easily.
I just can't. Summon rush? Dosen't work, even if I make like 1500 damages and combined summons (like the yellow dragon who shoot electric lasers, I forgot his name ) he dosen't give a sh*t.
Retribution... Kill automaticly one of the party member... Seriously? He used like 2 times in this video but when I fight him, it's his favourite attack!
And what is the level of your party members to dodges his attacks?!
He just have to use, Retribution, Shadow Clash and Chaos Upheaval and my whole party is gone!
How?! Just how can you beat a boss like that?!
And I'll don't talk about his HP, maybe a billion.
+Y-Power Try using the djinni Shell and Void. Use Matthew to attack, heal and revive. use Sveta to attack and use Karis and Tyrrel for Void and Shell. Void absorbs nearly all damage and shell helps alot too.
Wow, never fought that someone would anwser this but thanks. Luckily, I have those djinns. I'll try. :D
+Y-Power SAME!!! THIS BOSS IS IMPOSSIBLE
I know I’m 3 years late to the party, but just want to introduce my favorite team to every boss. Basically just ramp up Matthew and Sveta’s base attack as much as possible with Djinn stat boosts, gear. Take in Himi for Weapon Grace and use it (twice for full attack boost) everytime either Matthew or Sveta’s attack goes back to normal. For Matt, keep using the Sol Blade for Megiddo, and Sveta’s Beastform. Revive with Matt and Himi when needed. For the third party member, choose a healer, any will do. Make sure to have reviving, shielding, healing, djinn-restoring and stunning Djinn equipped on these characters as well. Just keep attacking like this with your priorities being Revive, Heal, Djinn recovery, Attack Boost, Attack (Matt with normal, Sveta with Beast), Shield, Stun, Summon in that order and you’ll be able to take it down in no time. It’s all about making use of each character’s strengths and utility in a well rounded team instead of just going all out attack and focusing on summons. Using Megiddo and Beastform continuously outshines the damage output of using Djinn for a strong summon.
So if all else fails, have Karis spam Healing Gust And Summon Rush him?
So karis is the new Ivan huh
Like father like daughter.
Miggy always dying
But Karis is better than Ivan the dead, she isn't useless
@Abysia well I playedt he original golden sun. but I was young and couldn't reached end cause I got lost after the great dessert. it ruined the whole experience for me so I skipped the second one.
What sword is matthew using? I dont remember seeing it before.
@mifdsam oh ok, but I come across either 2 or 3 tua warriors giving me 27k or 41k exp, making my level up very fast, right now my party is in the 50s with leveling.
I have to say I was a little disappointed that the last boss wasn't a multi-headed dragon of some sort :P
took him out at around level 40's now I'm at level 70's.
I was level 49 ish and I lost but forgot to save... Then lost my game cartridge
i like the graphics of this games
@Swordmaster1993 Doesn't take very long to reach max level in Dark Dawn, lol
Only need about 8M exp for level 99, and considering tua warriors give about 18k exp each when djinn killed, yeah
Only took me about 3 hours to grind to 99
omg 60 and higher and u couldn't win?? is that game really that hard?? and how long did it take u to get up 2 that level??
Like how do u beat him in general? And how did that dijinn do 1k+ damage?
It's called Summon Rushing. If you use a particular summon that is attached to the same element, you get extra damage of that. Kinda similar with Pokemon when a pokemon used a attack move that is the same type(s) of the Pokemon itself.
I just went all out on that thing, Daedulus summon was all it took. But really good vid
this boss was annoying but wouldnt say hard the first time i fought him was the time i beat him this was a long time ago so i thought id play it again for the lols. i beat him again in one go XD. i just used bark,shell,chasm,gears,vine,breath,surge,brick,dewdrop,fleet,torrent,pewter,garland,tear drop,glow,buckle,tinder,foam,granite,sizzle and kite.
having all those defences and revival djinns for back up really helped and the extra agility buffs and debuffs just made it so i could take him down really fast.
also i was like level 50 and had a lot of the good summons which were really helpful
@flyingtoast11 Hahaha. xD Yeah, I think we'll just call it 'magic' and leave it at that.
this is the newest one right
@Link64
that is so true. doom dragon just kept frustrating me everytime i fought it cause it was my favorite boss to fight. ^_^
now i wish my golden sun TLA game never got ruined. it was a day that i morned its death.
How old is Kraden!!!!
Very old!
thank god i was spamming hard nut and apple on my party for all of them defence to be over 500 and attack to be over 900
What Level do you suggest my guys start with? Also What Summons Should I do? My Strongest one Is Eclipse
Sveta beast form. For a couple of turns and annihilate him.
I know this is an old video, but needless to say I struggled with this final boss. Took several weeks to beat at like level 80. Some say this was easy but I guess I must be bad at this type of stuff huh.
If it took you several weeks to beat this boss, I presume your gear that you have currently on your characters must of been pretty bad.
@@Miggy So I booted up my game after several years and I don't think my gear was bad, I was just extremely stupid. Welp, I guess I'll try my luck with Dullahan, the last boss that I have to beat.
Nice. The gear that I had equipped on this video was bad, which is why I struggled so much, lol. Fix that and I cleaned house with all the optional bosses left in the game.
Lol just put all your djinn on standby and summon a shitload of people
@@lonleylink507 If you do that, then all of your stats decrease Im pretty sure
Doom Dragons much harder imo.
Managed to take him down fairly easily with a Ecipse/Crystallux summon rush ^^
are you on emulator?
Finally, no Cruel Ruin!
@omega197 Chaos Upheaval is more like Cruel Ruin v2 :P
YUJI NAKA MADE THE FINAL BOSS SO FUCKING HARD I CAN'T EVEN BEAT CHAOS CHIMERA EVEN ON LEVEL 60 HE HAS WAY TOO MANY HEALTH I USED SUMMONS ON THIS GUY HOPING HIS HEALTH WOULD DEPLETE BUT HE HAS MORE THAN I THOUGHT. HOW MANY HEALTH DID YUJI NAKA GIVE HIM WHEN HE CREATED THIS GAME 99889 BILLION?
+Sunkist Veno I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY FUCKING ONE!!! THIS BOSS IS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reasons this boss was crap compared to the other games' final bosses:
1: You could get yourself ready for it; the first two games after the fight with the main antagonists, their final form followed right after! There was no "Are you ready, or do you need to heal everyone and set your djinn and heal all psyenergy first?" bull that this game has.
2: The boss's basic attacks can be AVOIDED!? Oh and the other, HE USES MOSTLY THE BASIC ATTACK!!! Seriously, why would the final boss of this game just attack for one whole turn without doing something life threatening? The music was honestly the best part.
3: The only somewhat annoying attacks (Besides Djinn Blast/Storm) that were in this battle were Retribution (The Death Scythe of this game) and Chaos Upheaval. Shadow Clash had nothing on Cruel Ruin or even Outer Space.
4: All basic summons did WAY more damage then they should have. Boreas was pulling nearly 1500 a summon! 1500!!! The RNG Goddess could hate you and you'd still win.
5. Sheva, despite how much I love her, is too overpowered. In beast mode she can deal nearly 1000 a normal attack on this guy, which is absurd.
I love this game dearly and this comes from someone who really wants GS4 made for people other than 10 year olds. Please Camelot, bring back the Golden Sun your old fan base would still buy if it looked even remotely challenging.
thunderstones1 reason number 6, its not a dragonXD
+thunderstones1 1) Lost Age didn't have consecutive battles for final fight.
2) It actually has less junk attack than either Fusion Dragon or Doom Dragon. Fusion Dragon also uses normal attacks, and three or four rather weak status spells. Doom Dragon has a LOT of junk spells in first two forms, and even the last one likes to waste turns doing things like Earth Force, Nettle or Stone Spire. This thing's only junk skills are its regular attack and Wicked Howl. It also gets three turns unlike Fusion Dragon or Doom Dragon third phase.
3) Shadow Clash is actually just a bit weaker than Cruel Ruin (70+40%maxHP instead of 200+40%maxHP). It's still a really hard hitting attack. The thing though is that it has two attacks like this (Chaos Upheaval is the other one) and it can use them twice, or maybe all three times out of its three turns. (And forget Fusion Dragon; its "summon" attacks don't even scale to characters' max HP so it's way weaker.)
4) Summons' base power is proportional to the enemy's HP so it only does more damage when the enemy has more HP. Summons are overpowered in general but that applies to the entire franchise, not just this game.
5) Beastform is overpowered for a good reason; it's essentially an alternative to summon so it has to match up to that at least. In any case there's clearly at least some attempt to balance it out; its attacks are overwhelmingly Venus aligned which a lot of late game bosses are heavily resistant to.
As far as I can tell, this game isn't much easier than its previous installments. It's easier to GRIND to a higher level but pound for pound the last boss and optional bosses are not any easier. Some midgame bosses in this game are ridicluously weak, but then again no one exactly remembers, say, Kraken or Moapa for frequently giving Game Overs or something either.
Speak for yourself moron this boss is hard as shit it can kill me in three hits even after ive tried so many times exchanging djinni. Idk if your supposed to be past level 50 but christ this thing isn't easy in the slightest
No, this boss is amazing, really challenging and too broken.
And no matter what you said DD is way better than the first ones Golden Sun.
Saying that the game is a joke because it lets you prepare for the final fight is so stupid.
I know this will sound weird but, am I the only one that thinks that even as a beast, Sveta is still cute? o.O
ARGh i needed this,i gto PWNED 31 times IN A ROW!
In the first 2 games I have to constantly use Djinn and Summons and Revive to win the final boss.
In Dark Dawn all it took was normal attacks and heal.
This boss is WAY easier than the previous ones!
Why were battles so blurry though. The rest of the games isn't like that.
ugh all my characters have lvl50+ and this fight is nearly impossible i cant beat the chais chimera
i decided hell with this boss ima destroy him with pure summons and omg he died like in a minute only using summons
i just trained till i was like lvl 65 and all others were 64 or 54 so i wrest him like 5 times its just to bad he don't give and xp
lol nice
dude, your equipment is shit
what did you do?
i grabbed the cleric ring and just used the darkside or whatever (for matthew)
Wow I never knew how fighting the tua warriors level you up like that! I was always running like a little bitch lol!
Also dispel him when he uses his shadow shield next time or you legitimately will do nothing to him.
My team were Eoleo, Amithi, Beast girl and Me
Just like the Doom Dragon, just keep 1 or 2 healers in there :p and I am sure you will get there, unless u get spammed with Djinn Storm xD
He was pretty hard, but not impossible =]
I liked the battle though :p
its a strategy not a summon
@HatoburekaSutajio I'm glad someone liked it. I honestly thought it was the worst in the series and generally very bad game :( Besides all the things you said (like the abysmal plot), I didn't personally like the graphics and hated how swords have more than one unleash (an unnecessary gimmick, only slowed you down), and I'll never forgive the fact that you can miss Djinn. If that's not all, they added only 1 new summon, and I dunno, felt very recycled to me. Hope they do better with the sequel.
Wasn't really a Hard Boss the only thing I hated was It's move Retribution ._.
This guy wasen't too bad, thought Doom Dragon was slight harder.
i beat this guy at lvl 99 all characters and best weapons and armor and stuff and the best class set up here are the best class set up Paladin for matthew and susa's daughter(which i forget her name) and Ronin for Tyrell and Eleo and pure mage for karis and rief
I went to crossbone isle and fought a bunch of dragons there plus I got some rare material to forge some pretty powerful weapons and armor so I'm over lvl 80 and with every powerful weapon and armor equipped to my teams and fighting him wasn't that hard
Yes , and she gain extra Health/damage/armor , but each turn , use one Djinni and lose Health/Damage (Lose rank)
This Boss is really strong , you need a strong heal , a his Retribution is really , REALLY hard to counter dat insta-kill of the team
And when i fight him , when i use so many time for prepare a powerful summon : *Doom Dragon use Shadow shield*
Make me mad =_=
no way doom dragon was harder than this...wait was that the dragon in lost age or in the first golden sun? if it was the one in lost age i might agree but the golden sun was easy, this boss was ridiculously hard
This guy was a pain in the ass, maybe because I didnt summon rush him. The boss difficulty in this game is pretty silly, all these easy pushovers then you get to this.
IMO, Doom Dragon was more of a challenge.
i dont know but if i compare the soundtrack of the final battle of GS2 With this soundtrack I prefer the previous because was more epic in my opinion
Same, Sand Prince's theme is better than this
@HatoburekaSutajio I get you. The graphics seemed too cartoony and bland for me (especially since GS 1 & 2 had amazing detail) and having more than one unleash makes it IMHO less special and clumsy. But yeah, I didn't finish the game, got fed up shortly after meeting Briggs. Pretty much the worst JRPG I've played, which hurts because GSTLA is my fave.
just put 8 of each djinn on standby and use two rounds of ultimate summoning on his ass. after that you only need to hit him once with megiddo or sveta and hes as good as dead. i did that in the low 50s
I was at level 52
That spark plasma is really disappointing :/
SapphirePhxxx searing beam is great
I hate that they let you "prepare" for this battle...I liked Dark Dawn but it is a far cry from the epicness of GS1 and Lost Age...where you summon rushing the final boss nearly guaranteed your death >:)