The ULTIMATE TRASH PILE! 716th Infanterie Preview- Steel Division 2 Tribute to Normandy 44
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2024
- 🕹️ In this video, we dive deep into the 716th Infanterie from the upcoming Normandy 44 DLC!. Whether you're a seasoned general or new to the front, there's something here for everyone!
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Should have went into more depth with the tank tab
Exactly. What about the Mice?? (Maus's) Steinbeck's book was called 'Of Mice AND Men'. AP forgot the Mouse half of it!! He's an anti mouse bigot, I tell you!!
Didn't give it the love it deserved.
I feel like he entirely ignored the tank tab.
Such a good division. What an intruging way to deal with enemy anti tank. This should counter guard armored big time.
Yeah I know I neglected it hahaha
The 716. static infantry "The Old and Infirm" returns! Aka. the OG Korück++ for when you want it to be WW1 again.
Sounds about right haha
716 Infanterie Division 🤡
715 Infanterie Division 🗿
too true! hahaha
Other way around 😎
It would be nice if they buffed the availability of police units, especially now with the disheartened getting nerfed with the fallback changes. They need to be close to the troops, so they die relatively easy, plus you need them in the support tab where it is usually hard to justify taking them with better and more mandatory choices (like supply, 2K support, commander etc.) present.
Having, say 6 or 8 of the KM military police here would be double what it is current, yes but let's not kid ourselves, this div can use whatever buff we may be able to throw its way given how near unplayable it is.
unless they are chunky or have a sniper rifle no one takes them. Its about the slot price which could be 3
The issue is simply the slot price, making your crappy infantry a little less crappy won't help that much generally speaking
Oh boy, i wonder why Attack Power even tries to play into C-Phase 😂
I think when someone wants to play this division in 1v1 you go Maverick and put everything into A and B. When you don't see yourself win at the end of B-Phase, you can just instantly resign 🎉😊
That might be the right way to play this, but truthfully the right way is probably dont play it haha
The Marder I H39 has a machine gun very prominently on the model but no machine gun in the stat card which is very funky. The HS129 is 20kph slower, but I don't know how much that would actually matter. I wonder if the 122mm A-19 (the long 122 that fires slower) has less dispersion. It feels like it should. Technically you do have two tanks! they just cost 120 points each and come with 4 rockets in the artillery tab. This feels like a division you play for the memes and not a lot else
The A-19 has a much tighter dispersion. I think they are actually the best standard Soviet towed artillery. They also function as decent (if expensive) AT and 2km support guns.
I put it in with the strike team to look into it!
Browning wz.1928 is essencially polish adaption of BAR, bought before WWII by Poland, then captured by Germans after invasion.
Thanks for the clarification!
Wow, when I saw it was entirely missing the tank tab, I was expecting to be blown away by the infantry tab or support tab or something.
But nothing. Every tab here is thoroughly meh at most!
It has decent arty, especially in the howitzer department, and the air tab is fine too. But you don't have amazing at options and your support is also not great.
Yeah its not a good divisions, nothing truly redeeming haha
I imagine you had to rerecord this from the videos sent to you. really appreciate the hard work and the quality, keep it up my dude
I appreciate it!
I will definitively buy this DLC. Fun ahead with these scrapped barrels germans
YEah I am really looking forward to this DLC!
I find the 250/9 recon halftrack runs out of 20mm ammo so quickly, the 30 points seems a bit steep. In some divisions with little armour they are a necessity but if I can avoid them, I do.
Oh it does, but its still a great unit
6:38 it's hillarious to me that you mention the MG08/15 is neither amazing nor the worst.
In Germany, to this day, we have a common saying that something is 08/15, meaning it's entirely average which comes from this mg.
Nailed it haha
Tbh the arty tab might be one of the best out there in terms of howitzers. The A19 is almost as accurate as an SK18 while being larger in caliber. The GPF 155mm is pretty much the best 155m outside of the long ton (which is just another league). And it has a lot of the GPF.
I do wish it had like a card of nebelwerfers as the rocket arty seems light but otherwise this division might honestly have the best arty tab of any axis division.
The nebels would be helpful for sure. I like SK18s more than the 122s because of the rpm
The arty is nowhere close to best. A19 is a bad artypiece, its not accurate especially not compared to SK18 and on top of that it has low firerate.
GPF is not a good 155mm. You mistake its ROF for the smoke rof. It only has 3RPM which is the worst category for guns its caliber. All while being about as accurate as other guns its caliber. The german 150 is better all while being much more abundant in the game. The french 100mm is a decent artypiece but this artytab is barely average at best.
@@CosmicLegion seems my past comment got removed due to it have a google link.
Regardless those arty pieces are way better then you might believe. On the main Eugen discord people have a google sheet that uses the actual values from in game and has a handy way to compare all the different artillery in their accuracy.
The A19 is slightly worse then the SK18 but sits as pretty much on of the most accurate arty prices especially at that caliber.
The GPF 155mm is also like that having far better accuracy then the SFH or pretty much any other 150mm piece. Only the long Tom is notably better but this is true for literally all howitzers.
The rats of fire for the guns are indeed lower but they make up for it by being much more accurate at long ranges which helps them excel at counter battery. The tab is much better than you might expect.
I thought not having tanks is not that much big of a deal, because as an axis division, surely you can use something from AT or support tab with decent armour.
I was so wrong. This division literally doesn’t have anything beyond 25mm armour.
Yeah its awful, dont try to fool yourself haha
5:26 - The letters aren't individual. They're supposed to be called "ost" (sort of "owst", as in "oh" but with a short o, just so it doesn't become "oust"). It's German for "east" (and Swedish for "cheese").
5:58 - Yes! Pronunciation is spot on! (as it almost always is) Freiwillige means "voluntary" (lit. "free-willingly").
Thank you for the confirmation!
Got a video idea for you, not a division tier list but explaining quickly what each division has that makes it unique. I bought all these discounted dlcs and spent like 20 hours not playing but just trying to understand what they even do. Like one Finnish division has those bt-2 converted artillery with 3k range and a flamethrower in its support tab, lots of semi hidden unique things.
Great idea thank you!
How come you definetly take the marder 1s but not the pak 40 on half track that is 15 points cheaper?
Good question. Accuracy, speed and mostly availability (6 vs 9) I guess?
In addition to what the other guy said, I'm pretty sure the Marder has tank health, which makes it far more survivable. It would require 2 penetrations to die vs 1 for the armored car.
APCR
Marder 1 has 10hp while the other one has 8hp. Hence the 307 will lose pretty much all 1 on 1 battles while the marder will win as long as it fires first. 307 is only ever good in conjunction with other tanks, something this div lacks.
The main reason is health. The half track pak 40 dies in one hit, the marder can take two. its a massive difference
Definitely not a competitive division but with so many divisions, it's okay to have a few just for recreating historical battles.
Yeah it will do that for sure haha
As in bad division or has old equipment ?
5 point bikes. Lets go. I probably wont be taking anymore machine guns in the support tab.
You forgot to talk about the tank tab
Why dont you like police units ? They are good help to your disheartening infantry
I dont like police units cause they take up precious support tabs and the infantry works fine without them, they aren't necessary
@@atkpwrgaming
even disharten infantry ?
it gives debuffs to the unit, removing it gives you a better unit for a cheap price.
@@dnaseb9214 they are still garbage even with the police haha also motorbikes are NOT a replacement for MGs just a heads up
OST is not pronounced individually.
It's just the word ost (east) capitalised cuz they are eastern, well, conscripts, at best.
Thanks!
fact: pips on that faithfull day 6th of june flew over the beaches of sword and commenced ground attacking in his fw 190 with his wing man. while elements of schnellkampfgeschwarder 10/ fast combat squadron 10 was also present in the fight hunting down of allied bombers. Not much info on these engagments espically from german perspective but pip wrote of his experience of d-day he had 107 kills by the end of ww2.
Kampfgeschwarder 54 "totenkopf" a luftwaffe bomber wing was alos present though they attacked the 7th. attacking british formations with cluster bombs and also bombing allied paratroopers the 10th.
Great info thanks!~
Looks like a division made for challenge scenarios in singleplayer.
I would agree
Cries in Nov with AT, support and Arty capabilities...
I think NOV is still better than this haha
@@atkpwrgaming u can't kill tanks with efficiently with the at selection and avaliblity and Arty is just present. Activation points in at, support and Arty are too expensive to fill the gaps and you are expected your planes to do all the work beside the infantry which again they mostly lacking at
Nov has tanks^^
I'd take at and field guns over French slow moving crap, which the activation points in at and support are too expensive and you get single cards of most stuff.
AtkPwr now that you are on strike team, can you ask them if the MG-34 modeled on the marder 1 H39 is meant to be usable and they are still working on adding it to the stat card, or is it just there for flair? Thank you!
Just brought it up thanks!
It looks like it could be okay for a defence game
maybe that, just that haha
Technically your only tank is the fucking wurflamen
Lol true haha
they have increased the detail on some of the units - the Marder has a lot more detail
Yeah its a really nice model!
6:39
-> “Not the worst light machine gun”
-> Literally the worst light machine gun :)
You could have 3 of them in this squad and you would have… Just a gren :)
LOL my bad haha
Not worst. One of the MGs that come in this patch thats taken from an airplane has 5% accuracy and not high RoF. Making it deal half the damage of this one.
@@CosmicLegion Mg-81? Dont trust the unit card, it supresses harder than mg-42/34, and has lethality similar to mg-34
As for Soviet 122mm, a-19 is more accurate than m-30
Good to know thanks!
Thanx
Thanks for watching!
Do you think some of these new battlegroups are designed more for 10v10 rather than 1v1?
Absolutely, but this is just designed for suffrage and flavor haha
I don't think the Ar 234 recon plane will be that usefull. It spots a unit for 2 seconds and is already gone.
It gained some speed if im not mistaken. 700km/h is actually pretty nice for 45 points on medium resilience.
@@PinguinoPochoSure but none of my units will be able to aim fast enough on the enemies that are spotted by the AR because the AR is already out of spotting range again.
@@steffent.6477 you use it for spotting arty and aa gun locations
@@steffent.6477 I see this more as knowing there is an at gun or an arty/aa piece that I can now smoke, bomb, or avoid.
I don't need my normal units firing at it.
Just having an idea of what unit the enemy has is very valuable, it doesn't have to constantly see things
Wew jet bomber
going Kamikaze
no bombs
Its fast!
Bad for 1v1. Good for 10v10 thanks to spam infantry + arty party.
The arty might be 10v10 worthy with the arty
This devision begs for being bullied like mad. Why they put work in it?
There's plenty of flavor divisions like this in game, its for the meme fest haha
I think it is good just for single player role playing. Some people might find it useful.
Of course chinese players will play this div to humiliate competetive players.
This is so accurate its hilarious haha
This division has literally zero good sides. In SD44 it was at least fun as you could produce a wall of MG34s, 7.5cm and 15cm infantry guns, Beute-B2s, Marders and PaK43s. Plus you could basically lock down the sky with huge availability of FlaK 88s. And the Osttruppen and Grenadiers weren't as weak as they are in SD2 (and Italians were actually strong), so infantry is way weaker there too - this division loses everything that made it playable
If they are so adamant on removing these things that were there in SD44 (idk maybe they really didn't have these things IRL) they should at least merge it with actual armor elements from 21. Panzer and veteran units from 352. Infanterie (which is also in very sorry state currently, to be honest)
They really didn't have any tanks and no 21st panzer tank units came to their aid.
@@mikaelantonkurki you literally have 21st Panzer units in this deck, just not in tank form
In a lot of in-game divisions with mixed assets there was no direct contact yet we have them mixed as they operated in same region
@@czwarty7878 But the thing is that it is somewhat stated in the steam post preview that the 21st panzer units in 716th infantry are from Kampfgruppe Rauch. Rauch had no Tank units.
716th had authority over Rauch's 200th Panzerjäger (Marders), 155th Armored artillery and the 192nd Pz.Grenadier units designated as 716th "counter-attack formations".
I think they really rolled back the division sharing and detachment units and are making it more about the core units of the division
The 716 was a static division and it did poorly. This will be a disaster in the game. I'd much rather have them revamp the 352 Infanterie.
We are looking over a lot of possibilities, dont worry!
Now NOV will have some competition for worst div in the game! Loser take all!!
Perfect haha
Thats like the worst division ever lol. It doesn't have any tanks on top of that only horrible infantry and doesn't even have any special units either. Whats the point?
Pure hilarious suffrage haha
This will be the new worst division in the game. For 1v1 that is.
I think I agree, NOV is even better than this haha
I love that there isn’t even a single redeeming thing about this division 😂 why even make a division like this and put it in the game. They need to let you bring more cards to even make this competitive.
I think its just meant to be flavorful and fun, not competitive haha
@@atkpwrgaming need to state doing league events but with only the worst rated divisions. The games would probably be a lot goofier tbh.
@@atkpwrgaming true also this has one of the better and more useable M.P. Units.
Looks to be the shittiest div in the game after nov
It may not be after NOV haha
Took all the shit units in the game and put them together in a division. Nice.
Thats about what this is haha