@@GHSTSTRSCRM Except this looks far better executed than either. DeX has been the standard, but there are silly limitations that are purely Samsung being Samsung, such as limiting output resolution (DeX can't do 4K out under any circumstances because Samsung restricted it - it can be done if you are rooted). Huawei's desktop mode is pretty sub par.
@@charlescdt6509 The developer options desktop mode is not intended to be a standalone desktop mode (that's why it's buried). It's a framework for third parties to build on, exactly as Motorla has done here. Some individual developers have also attempted to make desktop launchers based on the framework, although I don't believe any actually made it to something resembling a final product given the work involved.
@@nickthaskater There is reasons Samsung has limited such. And looks like motorola is learning off Samsung's Dex due to they have understood the tactics used. One being that a fan helps cool the device and limiting apps to only 5 unless you use their Station/Pad (which have built in cooling fans) allows it to unlock this and bring more apps up on the display. Probably a thing motorola will be doing with their stand that has a fan built in to.
Preach! DeX desperately needs competition. There are so many silly shortcomings with DeX that should be easily corrected, but Samsung has no incentive to do so. Complaints and issues go long ignored, and features are now actually getting worse in some cases (the taskbar/notification area in One UI 2.5 and later are horrible).
@@sanyam7722 its not on all phone, i m a Samsung user.. A series doesn't have, the fact that, Motorola's cheap phones have flagship feature its impressive
I just got a Motorola Stylus 5G and Desktop Mode is included on the Developers Options. I love this mode since I keep using my cell for work on Python programming on Pydroid3.
Do you have the 2022 version of g stylus with snapdragon 695 cpu? I dont have that setting in developers mode. I have setting that says force desktop mode. But it is not doing anything when i connect the phone over type c to hdmi dongle
So glad to see some legitimate competition to Samsung DeX. This looks much more "professional" than DeX. You mentioned that it's connected to a 4K monitor - is the desktop mode running in 4K?
@NickB As I couldn't find any information on this, I asked the Motorola Customer service and they gave me this reply about the available resolutions: 4K @ 60 Hz 1440p @ 90 Hz 1080p @ 90 Hz The included "Ready for" Type-C-to-HDMI converter however only supports 4K @ 30Hz. So you will have to use a cable the supports 4K @ 60 Hz. Hope this info helps
Motorola has done an excellent job with this. It puts similar features from LG to shame. I am not sure how it compares feature for feature with DeX, but I really respect what they have done here.
Looks better than DeX in a few key areas, thankfully. Definitely blows away what LG brought to the table, although I welcome all efforts toward developing desktop modes on mobile!
But then again, it was LG who put serious focus on Android Desktop Mode outside of Samsung and Huawei circle. Heck, LG Desktop Mode can also be used on Android 10.
@@FAT8893 I completely agree that LG does deserve credit for what they did. In general, I love LG's way of giving the user as much value as possible, whatever they can get the hardware to do, regardless of whether it is a midrange or flaghip device. The Velvet was a remarkable device! Truly a flagship experience, plus headphone jack, desktop mode, stylus support, durability rated, waterproof, etc.
Yeah that'll be nice. But for now it's only for G100/Edge-S and Edge+ Though hopefully motorola will expand more with more flagships or powerful mid-range systems for this feature.
This reminds me of when motorola had the "lapdock" You just plugged your phone into the cable, and bam you had a laptop. It looks kinda like samsung dex.
Very much the same idea, only no special adapters required and the functionality is much improved. The hardware these days is actually powerful enough to make a compelling case as a PC replacement, too, which was not at all the case back in the day.
@@nickthaskater I so agree with you. When I see videos about the NexDock Touch, I can easily forget a completely standard laptop if I don't do PC gaming.
Motorola was a pioneer in mobile casting. Samsung perfected it with DeX. Add in mobile apps for VDI experience and the power of premium phones, mobile productivity is the way of the future!! Grab a lapdock while you can. I use both Nexdock Touch and HP lapdocks with a Bluetooth mouse. Super experience without having to have a VPN for my mobile data plan, all my storage/files in one place, access to cloud storage/VDi, and when I upgrade my phone...one stop shop.
How well does it work with NexDock or Uperfect X? My LG V60 desktop mode is pretty nice on my 24" monitor and I have a Uperfect X on the way for mobility.
I got myself the Moto Edge + just for this purpose. It came with Android 10 and it took a lot of updates to get to Android 11. Ready for PC was working very well with my ultrawide 2k monitor. But after some updates later, it no longer can use the full resolution of the monitor. Now, it only projects 1080p image to the monitor. This is not good. I want native resolution support on my monitor. It was so good before and I was thinking it's going to be my desktop 90% of the time. Now I'm not sure anymore due to the limit on the resolution.
What kind of adapter did you use to connect to your monitor? I have a USB C to multiport adapter with HDMI and it did NOT work for my on my Edge 2022 (not the +). Yes, the non-plus version does have Ready For as it works wirelessly(somewhat) to my PC with the Ready For application for Windows installed. Not sure why they made that since I'm on my PC anyways so have no use for a mobile desktop. Only got it to work once wirelessly on my Roku Streambar and it has never successfully connected again.
I hear this type of thing happens a lot with non-pixel phones after initial software and subsequent updates, although it is happening with pixels more and more now after a few updates. How did things end up going may i ask? TY!
@@chengthao7558 sorry to hear that about Samsung/Dex being no better - they generally provide more updates and security packs than motorola, even compared to pixels on samsungs own flagships, but i wish google had a good desktop for phones to compete in the mix..
Just an FYI, I had a Tisofu USB C Hub MacBook HDMI Adapter - 7in1 Docking Station USB C Dongle Dock USB C Hub MultiPort Adapter and it did NOT work. Ready For did not automatically turn on. It would be nice to know the exact requirements to make this work. I'm going to buy a straight USB C to HDMI cable so I hope it works. I just purchased the Motorola Edge 2022 (not the +) and so far I've only been able to go into Desktop Mode connecting wirelessly to my PC and having to use the downloaded Ready For application for Windows. Not everything works as you expect when connected that way. Also, I was only able to connect wirelessly ONE time to my Roku Streambar using Ready For.
@@J4ckCr0w output resolution without the need for a DeX Station or DeX Pad, which Samsung stopped producing years ago. No gimmicky "futuristic" UI that comes at the expense of usability and practicality. Likely less arbitrary restrictions on the software given Motorola seems to be more open minded than Samsung (see previous comment about the output resolution restriction which is nothing more than a hardware ID check that Samsung implemented). The video conference "focus" feature is also very cool and speaks to the intent of this feature and the thought that has gone into it. Samsung has no such thing.
@@nickthaskater Dude, since Note 8 you don't need a dock. You clearly don't know what you're talking about nor have ever used a Samsung flagship phone.
@@J4ckCr0w I didn't say you need a dock for DeX, I said you need a dock for high-resolution output (specifically, I said "output resolution"). 1440p requires the DeX Station or Dex Pad, or an adapter which otherwise passes Samsung's hardware ID check. The exceptions to this are the Fold and Tab devices which can output 1440p regardless. This is 100% accurate. Guaranteed.
Any chance that you own a Nexdock Touch? I own one, so I'm really interested in how well they work together. And this will be great for Stadia on the go!
I want to know this as well. I use a Huawei P30 Pro with my touch and that's great. However my OnePlus 7T is hacky, it works but not just with the USB C cable. I'm hoping that the Motorola desktop mode works like Huawei and Samsung - nobody knows though.
This reminds me of the Motorola Photon on Sprint from a couple of years back...!!! I recall pairing my Motorola Xoom tablet bluetooth wireless keyboard to my Photon bringing back memories... Question will this work on the regular Motorola Edge, which I have with 5G on T-Mobile? Great video...!!! 👍👍👍
They won't. But i might later in the future since i just nabbed the G100 for 440$. It's a fairly great system compared with dex. The only thing i have as a gripe is bluetooth keyboards with auto standby/shutdown tend to make the background flicker when turning on/off or likely exiting out of movie apps. Plus the annoying fact that the on display keyboard pops up and overlays over any app window you're looking at. But besides that. It's pretty great. It doesn't have the bugs like Dex does with Chrome/Edge browsers. Or Eve Echoes having a invisiable navagation bar on the top that if you click something to close ingame on the right. It'll X out of the game because of that stupid invisiable bar when the game is in windowed mode. + the annoyance of the game's screen text and graphics flicker when moving the mouse around.
Great vid! However qn: what if we were to play games that do not support gamepad.. basically require touch on the phone itself.. are we able to play those games while having it displayed on the large tv? Pretty worried it would not be able to since the phone display seems to be deactivated.
No. You'd need to use phone for games requiring touchscreen or download a app to force enable gamepad mode to use on touch control display functions. Phone display isn't fully deactivated. You can still use it while desktop mode is enabled. Say for instance you're watching a movie or youtube video, and you are wanting to play a game on the phone itself. You can do so. Or swipe around etc. Though Dex and LG have it where the audio is limited to 1 video playback, so it might not pause the movie. but it might have game audio play over it. But some games that do only use touch display, Like say Eve Echoes for instance that can't use gamepad. It can use the mouse as a 'touch input' as if the mouse was your pointer finger (in desktop mode). And second galaxy for instance (though this might differ. LG on SS doesn't work well. But Dex does.). And keyboard will respond for chats but not for standard inputs.
@@KillerRaptorr i hope motorola would consider to update at least for the gamemode to have the choice to display over to the hdmi but also to be able to see the game on the phone itself as to utilize the touch controls instead of black screen. This will definitely be a hot utility for us, mobile game streamers.
@@NakProjek You haven't heard of screen mirroring? Most phones that support video out from the usb-C port all have this function. It mirrors what is playing on the phone, to a bigger display. So you can still use touch that way but also see on the bigger screen. Gamemode is mainly putting a single game of Desktop mode into a fullscreen system. So whatever games do support a game controller will work on this mode. But for games requiring purely touchscreens you'll likely need to do screen sharing aka mirroring mode.
@@KillerRaptorr yes im aware of screen mirroring but in the video demo, the screen blackened.. thus my question. So are you saying motorola current phones can do wired screen mirroring via hdmi out from its usb c? Without this "ready for" software update? Once again as WIRED, not screen mirroring via wireless
@@NakProjek Yes Screen mirroring should work wired or wireless modes without the ready-for update due to it's built into android itself normally. Long as the phone supports video output from the USB-C port. It'll screen mirror. But Motorola doesn't have support for most of their phones unless you have a Edge+ or Edge-S/G100 or Razr phones. Other ones don't have video output from the wired mode. and most don't support miracast screen sharing.
It will be interesting to see if overall this becomes better than samsung Dex, however even if it is it probably won't be enough to sell the phone over another phone.
Can I double the USB port to connect on monitor and use my focusrite scarlet to use a proper professional microphone to record while using the advance video zoom option?
Superb!!! This feature will come to the moto g100 , SD 870 , flagship killer phone! Chromebook, and console plus powerful android, all in one device for a nice low price!
When using phone as trackpad, does it go to sleep? That was one thing that really annoys me with Dex. The phone keeps going to sleep and you have to double tap and use face unlock to unlock the phone before you can get back to use the phone/trackpad. Samsung never replied to my support request for it
My main question is battery. Will the battery *properly* stop charging at 100% and plugged in? IE: When someone comes to work and docks it all day every day for a year, how will the battery hold up?
As if it was new. Almost all phones now adays are like laptops, So when you leave a device plugged in. It barely trickle charges the battery to keep it topped, But sents all the incoming charging power straight to the motherboard. Which is known as Pass-through or by-pass charging tech. Meaning there will be less heat due to no charging/discharging of the battery, And doesn't effect the battery life since it's not being charged/discharged. It's only when you unplug it that it'll run off battery mode.
@@KillerRaptorr ah I wasn't sure if there was a proper bypass. But even still it's the trickle charge at 100% that really kills batteries. I never charged my P20 past 85% (I bought I launch day) and the batter was 100% solid up until I got my Moto Edge+
@@Dia1Up Most chargers will only trickle charge when the battery drops a % internally (you'll never see this.). Even then, That would take days really for that kind of effect to happen. Most batteries can go almost years and only drop roughly half their battery life when their not in use (unplugged and left on a shelf,etc). So a day or two on a dock will not have any effect. To keep it topped. But 99% of the time. The power will be sent to the phone and not to the battery, Because the charging cabling is sent to the Motherboard, Both wired and wireless before their sent to the battery. Plus keeping the phone plugged in, is better because it's not doing 'FAST/SUPER/Hyper/Turbo/etc' charging which is where some companies can get their phones full charge in less then a hour, Normally a slow 12watt 5volts charging is around 2-3hours. and 5watts (slow charge) is around twice that. Heat and fast charging/discharging is the massive killer to batteries. So keeping it plugged in keeps it's peak performance and increases it's cycle life, Because you're not using the battery as hard as you do normally when unplugged.
Hello can you please make a video in English and focus on the TV function of the ready for app. Nobody has been doing it. The idea is to see the performance of the remote mode on the phone and see if it could simulate Android TV box experience. Can you add apps like Netflix, TH-cam and other VOD application you can have, maybe even a tv app if you have.This way we can see how the apps display in full screen and see how the remote is responsive with the interface.
@@jerryrivera6328 I doubt, although when Google disabled wireless display casting from their nexus 9 and possibly also nexus 6, a simple magisk module could reactivate this basic android feature. Most AOSP ROMs also had this feature , since it was only a software limitation. Now I'm not sure if it's really hardware or just low level software that could be changed by drivers in the kernel ... That's way beyond me. A similar example is when Nintendo disabled HDMI out from the switch lite to make it unable to "switch" (output video to hdmi), they physically removed a tiny chip that would otherwise allow the usb on the switch lite to communicate with HDMI. The switch lite was perfectly capable of doing that since it shares the exact same internals with the normal switch
I think this looks way cleaner than Dex. I wish Apple would do something like this. I hate plugging the iPad Pro in and getting thick black bars on each side. Wish they had an alternate OS setup when plugging into a monitor.
With Macs now running ARM chips like the iPad and iPhone, there's no reason Apple couldn't simply have iPad run Mac OS, or have a "dual boot" setup for iPhone where Mac OS is triggered when external display is connected.
feel like being able to connect a phone to screen and peripherals could be a really big deal, i don't think or somewhat hope that phones never turn into a full sized monitor. would rather do browsing and paying stuff through my computer at the moment even though my phone would be quite capable of doing similar things. but apple who makes both iphones and desktops or laptops would probably be quite capable of getting a nice desktop mode for phones if it seemed necessary.
Apple never wants to do this, everyone of their limited range of devices is carefully shoeboxed not to cut the other devices grass so they can shaft their loyal users instead of offering the most functional user experience. Years later iPhones still don't have this, can't even multitask on screen and the most expensive Mac's don't even touch screen 🤷♂️
Is there a follow up on this. Need advice. Upgrading my phone but need a phone the has a desktop mode. I really don't want to buy a Samsung if I can avoid it. Currently using a honor v20 and it has a desktop mode too.
There is wired Ready For support for Motorola Moto G100 and Edge 20 Pro. There is also Ready For PC support for Edge 20 Lite and Edge 20. Edge 20 and also Edge 20 Pro has the extra benefit of Ready For Wireless casting support.
I have a edge+ and it will connect to my tv but only let me look at pictures in my phone memory. The edge plus home page you keep showing won't come up. can you help me out?
I'm only waiting for keyboard and mouse support for android games.... Hope they (developers) add this feature.... It will be awesome to play codm, pubgm, dead trigger 2, dead effect 2, etc on big tv with keyboard and mouse
I remember having a Motorola droid razr maxx xt912, there used to be a dock to transfer data from the razr to a monitor via hdmi or pc via usb, almost 10 years ago! oh! and a device to turn the razr into a laptop, and so, and so... i think somehow motorola is always innovating. Amazing experience with the Edge +! im very very impressed!! Hey which is that think keyboard you have there Tim??? how/where can i get that keyboard?
Motorola did something like that with Motorola Atrix (looong time ago). Question: microsoft office apps opens using their mobile version or their full version?
@@savnet_sinnI'm talking about functionality and usability. Perhaps a mobile version with a different layout, simar to what we see at the desktop version
@@savnet_sinn Samsung DeX runs the mobile interface for Office on the phone, but runs the desktop-like tablet interface when running the DeX desktop mode. You can also use the web version of Office through the browser by loading the desktop version of the site which gives you a very similar experience to the full desktop application.
Use wired. Wireless controllers will differ on cheaper controller systems. The phone has Bluetooth 5 so if your controller isn't such or above 4.1 then it'll have problems.
Any cable of USB-C to HDMI. There are ones also with a side port on the HDMI side that can keep the phone charged. Motorola also gives this with the G100.
Yes. But Prime right now has a weird glitch that always causes the phone screen to active whenever playing a video. (gotta force turn it off after it plays.). Does it on Samsung Dex to. So hopefully Amazon will fix this in the future.
nice video, I wanted to ask, but only to me the function transmit wifi screen so without hdmi cable it does not work? if instead I go to the youtube app and look for the tv it finds it otherwise if I want to divide the whole smartphobe it does not find the tv
G100/200 Wired till Android 12 update then Wireless also .Edge+2020-Edge+ 2022 can do wireless and wired Ready-For. But Edge 2021 can only do wireless due to that it's usb port is only 2.0 vs 3.1 video output. All other motorola phones do not support full wireless function. Which means it doesn't allow to standard Smart TV's that function on Microsoft's Miracast function. So you are only able to 'Screen cast' to Chrome enabled TV's via Screen-Sharing (No ready for desktop modes).
IS NEED ANY APPLICATION TO INSTALL THE PARING DEVICE, BECAUSE I HAVE MOTO G84 5G , ITS ASKING APPLICATION AND SCREEN SIZE 720P ONLY I CANT ABLE TO INCRESE
If you have a USB-C monitor like this, it charges the device at the same time through the Type C connection. Also, this is an entirely different experience from scrcpy.
When using external monitor, it can be a bit of a problem. But if you are using a universal lapdock such as NexDock Touch and U PERFECT X True Portable Monitor, you definitely have no problem to charge the phone while using the phone's Desktop Mode.
I don't believe so. Unless you mean the new Edge 2021. but the older edge 2020 i don't think so. This Ready-For was only really for Verizon's Edge+ before the newer G100/200 and Edge 20's/30's came around. If you want. The US version of the G100 and Edge 2021's do have Ready-For. But Edge 2021 has no support for Wired Ready-For/Video out. Only G100. But G100 has gotten update to Android 12 and has wireless Ready-For also. + it packs more power since the G100 uses a SD 870 vs the edge 2021 that only uses a SD 778G.
There are problems for me with two things in this ready for platform while connected to 85inch Samsung 4k tv. 1. Tried over 10 USB c dongles with gigabit internet and it appears that it detects some and then it appears to crash and does detect lan connection until reboot and seems to crash after an hour or so. Second, it doesn't play nicely with an app called Fubotv it flickers on that app which causes the live stream to stop working. It works without being connected to the TV. I will try it with mirror option and see if it does the same. Does anyone know how to revert back to Android 11 as I heard that lan connection used to work effectively on that version?
The G100 gets shipped with a USB-C to HDMI. But what is unique to it's cable. Is it's got a USB-C port on the HDMI side that you can plug your charging cable into and it'll passthru the charging power back to the phone to keep it charged. I believe there's some similar versions being sold on amazon now.
No, you don't have to. Ready For is a feature baked in Motorola's Android OS software. That said, the current Edge 20 series allows you to use Ready For on a Windows PC.
No. The desktop framework that's baked into Android 10/11 is just that, a framework. This Motorola desktop mode is a completely different experience from an end-user perspective, but is likely built on top of the framework.
@@YounesLayachi how is it the default desktop mode when it's a Motorola-specific interface? Just because it's built on a common framework doesn't mean it's at all like the framework itself.
I bet Samsung is waiting for competition before letting the refresh rate raise above 60 just to use it as a sales tactic. if they just did it now they'd be ahead of the curve because I'm shopping around for a phone desktop that does more than 60 hz, they kind of upset me when they let me have 120 hz then took it away saying it was a bug
Awesome! Finally someone to compete with samsung dex. EVERY smartphone should have a desktop mode. good to see more OEMs adopting it
This is pretty neat stuff from Motorola.
This video calling functionality and face tracking feature - WOW!!! Love it
It's not magic you know. I'm pretty sure the tracking requires an Ultrawide camera.
This feature is lit 🔥🔥🔥🔥. This should be available for all phones.
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@@GHSTSTRSCRM Except this looks far better executed than either. DeX has been the standard, but there are silly limitations that are purely Samsung being Samsung, such as limiting output resolution (DeX can't do 4K out under any circumstances because Samsung restricted it - it can be done if you are rooted). Huawei's desktop mode is pretty sub par.
Moto skined Android Desktop mode. Its buried in developer options and Google (being Google) hasnt made it widely known or as useful as Moto has.
@@charlescdt6509 The developer options desktop mode is not intended to be a standalone desktop mode (that's why it's buried). It's a framework for third parties to build on, exactly as Motorla has done here. Some individual developers have also attempted to make desktop launchers based on the framework, although I don't believe any actually made it to something resembling a final product given the work involved.
@@nickthaskater There is reasons Samsung has limited such. And looks like motorola is learning off Samsung's Dex due to they have understood the tactics used.
One being that a fan helps cool the device and limiting apps to only 5 unless you use their Station/Pad (which have built in cooling fans) allows it to unlock this and bring more apps up on the display. Probably a thing motorola will be doing with their stand that has a fan built in to.
Been doing this on Samsung Galaxy S10 and Tab S6 for a while now I hope this creates competion and makes Samsung make things even better
Preach! DeX desperately needs competition. There are so many silly shortcomings with DeX that should be easily corrected, but Samsung has no incentive to do so. Complaints and issues go long ignored, and features are now actually getting worse in some cases (the taskbar/notification area in One UI 2.5 and later are horrible).
This looks like a better version of Samsung Dex.
Dex is Still Better
@@sanyam7722 its not on all phone,
i m a Samsung user.. A series doesn't have, the fact that, Motorola's cheap phones have flagship feature
its impressive
Looks laggy! I was suppose to buy a 20 edge pro for this feature. I am having second thoughts looking at this
@@AlanJojy A90 equipped with DEX
@@mikejaques4702 discontinued
You know that's an old presentation when it has Google+ in it.
This is actually amazing. Looks so much better than the Huawei version.
I was already incredibly satisfied with my edge plus and NOW THIS?
I just got a Motorola Stylus 5G and Desktop Mode is included on the Developers Options. I love this mode since I keep using my cell for work on Python programming on Pydroid3.
Do you have the 2022 version of g stylus with snapdragon 695 cpu? I dont have that setting in developers mode. I have setting that says force desktop mode. But it is not doing anything when i connect the phone over type c to hdmi dongle
So glad to see some legitimate competition to Samsung DeX. This looks much more "professional" than DeX.
You mentioned that it's connected to a 4K monitor - is the desktop mode running in 4K?
I doubt it. 1080p
@@ps3301 based on what, exactly?
@NickB As I couldn't find any information on this, I asked the Motorola Customer service and they gave me this reply about the available resolutions:
4K @ 60 Hz
1440p @ 90 Hz
1080p @ 90 Hz
The included "Ready for" Type-C-to-HDMI converter however only supports 4K @ 30Hz. So you will have to use a cable the supports 4K @ 60 Hz.
Hope this info helps
@@Peter-ub5sv awesome info! Thanks 😊
I run it at 3440x1440 60hz on my ultrawide. I'm sure it can do 4k@60
Motorola has done an excellent job with this. It puts similar features from LG to shame. I am not sure how it compares feature for feature with DeX, but I really respect what they have done here.
Looks better than DeX in a few key areas, thankfully. Definitely blows away what LG brought to the table, although I welcome all efforts toward developing desktop modes on mobile!
But then again, it was LG who put serious focus on Android Desktop Mode outside of Samsung and Huawei circle. Heck, LG Desktop Mode can also be used on Android 10.
@@FAT8893 I completely agree that LG does deserve credit for what they did. In general, I love LG's way of giving the user as much value as possible, whatever they can get the hardware to do, regardless of whether it is a midrange or flaghip device. The Velvet was a remarkable device! Truly a flagship experience, plus headphone jack, desktop mode, stylus support, durability rated, waterproof, etc.
@@matthewsjardine True that. It is rather crazy to see a smartphone with an upper midrange chipset like the Velvet 5G can easily handle Desktop Mode.
This reminds me to my Moto Atrix with the Laptop years ago. I Hope Moto will give Ready for a longer lifetime.
I remembered that. At least now we have a lapdock like the NexDock and also the U PERFECT X UDock to play with.
I'm so happy more devs are doing this android is fantastic for emulation and most work
This makes me so happy, I can't wait til it's on every phone!
Yeah that'll be nice. But for now it's only for G100/Edge-S and Edge+ Though hopefully motorola will expand more with more flagships or powerful mid-range systems for this feature.
You can also go for Samsung, Huawei, and LG. They have similar iteration of this feature.
This reminds me of when motorola had the "lapdock" You just plugged your phone into the cable, and bam you had a laptop. It looks kinda like samsung dex.
Very much the same idea, only no special adapters required and the functionality is much improved. The hardware these days is actually powerful enough to make a compelling case as a PC replacement, too, which was not at all the case back in the day.
@@nickthaskater I so agree with you. When I see videos about the NexDock Touch, I can easily forget a completely standard laptop if I don't do PC gaming.
@@FAT8893 even gaming isn't a big deal anymore with game streaming.
@@nickthaskater Sorry, but I'm not buying into game streaming. I prefer to buy and own a game instead of having to do a monthly subscription.
@@FAT8893 fair enough, just saying that AAA gaming is possible with a phone-based setup like this.
I want to see Edge+ Android 11 review.
Your Moto EDGE will become a cool Mousepad+Cromebook.
This is quality content, exclusive sneak peak, Tim. Thanks for sharing
Motorola was a pioneer in mobile casting. Samsung perfected it with DeX. Add in mobile apps for VDI experience and the power of premium phones, mobile productivity is the way of the future!!
Grab a lapdock while you can. I use both Nexdock Touch and HP lapdocks with a Bluetooth mouse. Super experience without having to have a VPN for my mobile data plan, all my storage/files in one place, access to cloud storage/VDi, and when I upgrade my phone...one stop shop.
VDI is not for everyone since you need stable internet connection in the first place and not all places have that.
How well does it work with NexDock or Uperfect X? My LG V60 desktop mode is pretty nice on my 24" monitor and I have a Uperfect X on the way for mobility.
I definitely would love to see that as well. It's just a matter of time before we can see that.
@@FAT8893 Once the unit arrives I will be doing an unbox and demo/review. Should be here mid April.
@@redragn72 Where your video? It's already May 2021.
I got myself the Moto Edge + just for this purpose. It came with Android 10 and it took a lot of updates to get to Android 11. Ready for PC was working very well with my ultrawide 2k monitor. But after some updates later, it no longer can use the full resolution of the monitor. Now, it only projects 1080p image to the monitor. This is not good. I want native resolution support on my monitor. It was so good before and I was thinking it's going to be my desktop 90% of the time. Now I'm not sure anymore due to the limit on the resolution.
OMG. That must be a huge disapointment. :(
What kind of adapter did you use to connect to your monitor? I have a USB C to multiport adapter with HDMI and it did NOT work for my on my Edge 2022 (not the +).
Yes, the non-plus version does have Ready For as it works wirelessly(somewhat) to my PC with the Ready For application for Windows installed. Not sure why they made that since I'm on my PC anyways so have no use for a mobile desktop. Only got it to work once wirelessly on my Roku Streambar and it has never successfully connected again.
I hear this type of thing happens a lot with non-pixel phones after initial software and subsequent updates, although it is happening with pixels more and more now after a few updates. How did things end up going may i ask? TY!
@@Li-yt7zh I haven't touched my Moto Edge phone since. Maybe I will try in the future. Samsung is no better.
@@chengthao7558 sorry to hear that about Samsung/Dex being no better - they generally provide more updates and security packs than motorola, even compared to pixels on samsungs own flagships, but i wish google had a good desktop for phones to compete in the mix..
Just an FYI, I had a Tisofu USB C Hub MacBook HDMI Adapter - 7in1 Docking Station USB C Dongle Dock USB C Hub MultiPort Adapter and it did NOT work. Ready For did not automatically turn on. It would be nice to know the exact requirements to make this work. I'm going to buy a straight USB C to HDMI cable so I hope it works.
I just purchased the Motorola Edge 2022 (not the +) and so far I've only been able to go into Desktop Mode connecting wirelessly to my PC and having to use the downloaded Ready For application for Windows. Not everything works as you expect when connected that way. Also, I was only able to connect wirelessly ONE time to my Roku Streambar using Ready For.
Love the gaming mode actually 😊😊
This is FABULOUS !
Much Better than what Samsung offers.
Saving to my, "Smartphones" Playlist.
Thanks Tim 😊,
JaneLee 🕊️ - in Suburban Philadelphia
How is it better, be specific?
@@J4ckCr0w output resolution without the need for a DeX Station or DeX Pad, which Samsung stopped producing years ago. No gimmicky "futuristic" UI that comes at the expense of usability and practicality. Likely less arbitrary restrictions on the software given Motorola seems to be more open minded than Samsung (see previous comment about the output resolution restriction which is nothing more than a hardware ID check that Samsung implemented).
The video conference "focus" feature is also very cool and speaks to the intent of this feature and the thought that has gone into it. Samsung has no such thing.
@@nickthaskater Dude, since Note 8 you don't need a dock. You clearly don't know what you're talking about nor have ever used a Samsung flagship phone.
@@J4ckCr0w I didn't say you need a dock for DeX, I said you need a dock for high-resolution output (specifically, I said "output resolution"). 1440p requires the DeX Station or Dex Pad, or an adapter which otherwise passes Samsung's hardware ID check. The exceptions to this are the Fold and Tab devices which can output 1440p regardless.
This is 100% accurate. Guaranteed.
Amazing video! I'm super excited for desktop modes and this one is awesome!!
Any chance that you own a Nexdock Touch? I own one, so I'm really interested in how well they work together.
And this will be great for Stadia on the go!
I want to know this as well. I use a Huawei P30 Pro with my touch and that's great. However my OnePlus 7T is hacky, it works but not just with the USB C cable. I'm hoping that the Motorola desktop mode works like Huawei and Samsung - nobody knows though.
Terrible name for it but it looks insanely useful! This definitely puts Motorola back on the map for me.
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Can you please compare this to dex?
Is the update just for the US or is it available worldwide?
It's world wide. Edge+ on Verizon and the New Edge-S/G100 both have it.
How does the mouse connect, and can you connect a keyboard and mouse simultaneously in ready for mode ?
I forgot motorola was bringing this to there phone thanks motorola
Not sure why are manufacturers are still yet to put "USB C" ports on TVs.
Same goes for DisplayPort.
This reminds me of the Motorola Photon on Sprint from a couple of years back...!!! I recall pairing my Motorola Xoom tablet bluetooth wireless keyboard to my Photon bringing back memories... Question will this work on the regular Motorola Edge, which I have with 5G on T-Mobile? Great video...!!! 👍👍👍
Did it work for regular Edge 2021 ? Thanks
I would like to see links for the mouse, keyboard, and monitor shown in the video.
Can you make a detailed comparison between samsung dex and motorola ready?
They won't. But i might later in the future since i just nabbed the G100 for 440$. It's a fairly great system compared with dex. The only thing i have as a gripe is bluetooth keyboards with auto standby/shutdown tend to make the background flicker when turning on/off or likely exiting out of movie apps.
Plus the annoying fact that the on display keyboard pops up and overlays over any app window you're looking at. But besides that. It's pretty great.
It doesn't have the bugs like Dex does with Chrome/Edge browsers. Or Eve Echoes having a invisiable navagation bar on the top that if you click something to close ingame on the right. It'll X out of the game because of that stupid invisiable bar when the game is in windowed mode. + the annoyance of the game's screen text and graphics flicker when moving the mouse around.
Great vid! However qn: what if we were to play games that do not support gamepad.. basically require touch on the phone itself.. are we able to play those games while having it displayed on the large tv?
Pretty worried it would not be able to since the phone display seems to be deactivated.
No. You'd need to use phone for games requiring touchscreen or download a app to force enable gamepad mode to use on touch control display functions.
Phone display isn't fully deactivated. You can still use it while desktop mode is enabled. Say for instance you're watching a movie or youtube video, and you are wanting to play a game on the phone itself. You can do so. Or swipe around etc. Though Dex and LG have it where the audio is limited to 1 video playback, so it might not pause the movie. but it might have game audio play over it.
But some games that do only use touch display, Like say Eve Echoes for instance that can't use gamepad. It can use the mouse as a 'touch input' as if the mouse was your pointer finger (in desktop mode). And second galaxy for instance (though this might differ. LG on SS doesn't work well. But Dex does.). And keyboard will respond for chats but not for standard inputs.
@@KillerRaptorr i hope motorola would consider to update at least for the gamemode to have the choice to display over to the hdmi but also to be able to see the game on the phone itself as to utilize the touch controls instead of black screen. This will definitely be a hot utility for us, mobile game streamers.
@@NakProjek You haven't heard of screen mirroring? Most phones that support video out from the usb-C port all have this function.
It mirrors what is playing on the phone, to a bigger display. So you can still use touch that way but also see on the bigger screen.
Gamemode is mainly putting a single game of Desktop mode into a fullscreen system. So whatever games do support a game controller will work on this mode. But for games requiring purely touchscreens you'll likely need to do screen sharing aka mirroring mode.
@@KillerRaptorr yes im aware of screen mirroring but in the video demo, the screen blackened.. thus my question. So are you saying motorola current phones can do wired screen mirroring via hdmi out from its usb c? Without this "ready for" software update? Once again as WIRED, not screen mirroring via wireless
@@NakProjek Yes Screen mirroring should work wired or wireless modes without the ready-for update due to it's built into android itself normally. Long as the phone supports video output from the USB-C port. It'll screen mirror. But Motorola doesn't have support for most of their phones unless you have a Edge+ or Edge-S/G100 or Razr phones. Other ones don't have video output from the wired mode. and most don't support miracast screen sharing.
It will be interesting to see if overall this becomes better than samsung Dex, however even if it is it probably won't be enough to sell the phone over another phone.
It already looks better than DeX from my perspective (I use DeX on a daily basis).
How well does this work with GeForce Now?
Awesome implementation. But what's with this weird naming "Ready For"? Could've named it better I have to believe.
Can I double the USB port to connect on monitor and use my focusrite scarlet to use a proper professional microphone to record while using the advance video zoom option?
Superb!!! This feature will come to the moto g100 , SD 870 , flagship killer phone!
Chromebook, and console plus powerful android, all in one device for a nice low price!
Hi can you charge while connected to the television? Annoying to keep checking your battery life while working, seeing a movie, playing a game, ...
Do they have this for Mac OS as well? I will be getting a Macbook air sometime soon. So was wondering. Thks.
No, there isn't one.
When using phone as trackpad, does it go to sleep? That was one thing that really annoys me with Dex. The phone keeps going to sleep and you have to double tap and use face unlock to unlock the phone before you can get back to use the phone/trackpad. Samsung never replied to my support request for it
what is the resolution of the external monitor? is it a 4k monitor downsizing to 1080 signal?
My main question is battery. Will the battery *properly* stop charging at 100% and plugged in? IE: When someone comes to work and docks it all day every day for a year, how will the battery hold up?
As if it was new. Almost all phones now adays are like laptops, So when you leave a device plugged in. It barely trickle charges the battery to keep it topped, But sents all the incoming charging power straight to the motherboard. Which is known as Pass-through or by-pass charging tech. Meaning there will be less heat due to no charging/discharging of the battery, And doesn't effect the battery life since it's not being charged/discharged. It's only when you unplug it that it'll run off battery mode.
@@KillerRaptorr ah I wasn't sure if there was a proper bypass. But even still it's the trickle charge at 100% that really kills batteries. I never charged my P20 past 85% (I bought I launch day) and the batter was 100% solid up until I got my Moto Edge+
@@Dia1Up Most chargers will only trickle charge when the battery drops a % internally (you'll never see this.). Even then, That would take days really for that kind of effect to happen. Most batteries can go almost years and only drop roughly half their battery life when their not in use (unplugged and left on a shelf,etc). So a day or two on a dock will not have any effect. To keep it topped. But 99% of the time. The power will be sent to the phone and not to the battery, Because the charging cabling is sent to the Motherboard, Both wired and wireless before their sent to the battery.
Plus keeping the phone plugged in, is better because it's not doing 'FAST/SUPER/Hyper/Turbo/etc' charging which is where some companies can get their phones full charge in less then a hour, Normally a slow 12watt 5volts charging is around 2-3hours. and 5watts (slow charge) is around twice that.
Heat and fast charging/discharging is the massive killer to batteries. So keeping it plugged in keeps it's peak performance and increases it's cycle life, Because you're not using the battery as hard as you do normally when unplugged.
Hello can you please make a video in English and focus on the TV function of the ready for app. Nobody has been doing it. The idea is to see the performance of the remote mode on the phone and see if it could simulate Android TV box experience. Can you add apps like Netflix, TH-cam and other VOD application you can have, maybe even a tv app if you have.This way we can see how the apps display in full screen and see how the remote is responsive with the interface.
Can you install programs from the web and if so will the programs be able to run?
Could I charge during Ready For cable connection ?
Thanks
Thank you for this information.
Question: Is the phone charging when connected to the monitor?
Wish pixel phones could do this!
They could, it's a feature of android 11, but Google decided to disable the hardware USB C to HDMI output
@@YounesLayachi will it be possible for someone to figure out how to enable it?
@@jerryrivera6328 I doubt, although when Google disabled wireless display casting from their nexus 9 and possibly also nexus 6, a simple magisk module could reactivate this basic android feature. Most AOSP ROMs also had this feature , since it was only a software limitation.
Now I'm not sure if it's really hardware or just low level software that could be changed by drivers in the kernel ... That's way beyond me.
A similar example is when Nintendo disabled HDMI out from the switch lite to make it unable to "switch" (output video to hdmi), they physically removed a tiny chip that would otherwise allow the usb on the switch lite to communicate with HDMI.
The switch lite was perfectly capable of doing that since it shares the exact same internals with the normal switch
I think this looks way cleaner than Dex. I wish Apple would do something like this. I hate plugging the iPad Pro in and getting thick black bars on each side. Wish they had an alternate OS setup when plugging into a monitor.
With Macs now running ARM chips like the iPad and iPhone, there's no reason Apple couldn't simply have iPad run Mac OS, or have a "dual boot" setup for iPhone where Mac OS is triggered when external display is connected.
feel like being able to connect a phone to screen and peripherals could be a really big deal, i don't think or somewhat hope that phones never turn into a full sized monitor.
would rather do browsing and paying stuff through my computer at the moment even though my phone would be quite capable of doing similar things.
but apple who makes both iphones and desktops or laptops would probably be quite capable of getting a nice desktop mode for phones if it seemed necessary.
Apple never wants to do this, everyone of their limited range of devices is carefully shoeboxed not to cut the other devices grass so they can shaft their loyal users instead of offering the most functional user experience. Years later iPhones still don't have this, can't even multitask on screen and the most expensive Mac's don't even touch screen 🤷♂️
Is there a follow up on this. Need advice. Upgrading my phone but need a phone the has a desktop mode. I really don't want to buy a Samsung if I can avoid it.
Currently using a honor v20 and it has a desktop mode too.
There is wired Ready For support for Motorola Moto G100 and Edge 20 Pro. There is also Ready For PC support for Edge 20 Lite and Edge 20. Edge 20 and also Edge 20 Pro has the extra benefit of Ready For Wireless casting support.
I wonder if this feature will be available for RAZR 5G since that phone also has USB-C 3.1 port like the Edge+.
Can you review samsung dex
Interface is clean
Is the Motorola edge+ Plus 2020 version able to output 4k video on a 4k tv or is it limited like the Dex system?
MAN How hard Motorola told you not to mention Samsung DeX once in the full video.
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This is super neat!
Motorola edge 20 works with cable ?
Is this going to be available for the moto one 5g?
Dies the Xbox Gamepass Work in ready for, Just Like on Samsung Dex ?
I have a edge+ and it will connect to my tv but only let me look at pictures in my phone memory. The edge plus home page you keep showing won't come up. can you help me out?
Nevermind the phone, I love that standalone ThinkPad keyboard
Hello, could you confirm if the pixel 4a has video out over type c. I could not find this information anywhere. It would be very helpful.
I'm only waiting for keyboard and mouse support for android games.... Hope they (developers) add this feature.... It will be awesome to play codm, pubgm, dead trigger 2, dead effect 2, etc on big tv with keyboard and mouse
This is for the edge as well I'm assuming not only the edge plus?
Only for the Edge+ sadly.
I remember having a Motorola droid razr maxx xt912, there used to be a dock to transfer data from the razr to a monitor via hdmi or pc via usb, almost 10 years ago! oh! and a device to turn the razr into a laptop, and so, and so... i think somehow motorola is always innovating.
Amazing experience with the Edge +! im very very impressed!!
Hey which is that think keyboard you have there Tim??? how/where can i get that keyboard?
Motorola did something like that with Motorola Atrix (looong time ago).
Question: microsoft office apps opens using their mobile version or their full version?
How would the full versions open if they're not installed on the phone?
@@savnet_sinnI'm talking about functionality and usability. Perhaps a mobile version with a different layout, simar to what we see at the desktop version
@@savnet_sinn Samsung DeX runs the mobile interface for Office on the phone, but runs the desktop-like tablet interface when running the DeX desktop mode.
You can also use the web version of Office through the browser by loading the desktop version of the site which gives you a very similar experience to the full desktop application.
Well if it's similar to Samsung DeX (I think probably is) the better option is fo open the corresponding webapps via browser.
Haha oh man that atrix, I can't believe they sold that garbage. It was a cool proof of concept, but way before it's time.
Can play two players and two pads? MAybe in xbox game pass games like fifa?
Did you notice any lag with your controller? I tried to do this wish Fortnite but was met with extreme lag
Use wired. Wireless controllers will differ on cheaper controller systems. The phone has Bluetooth 5 so if your controller isn't such or above 4.1 then it'll have problems.
hello please tell me what type of HDMI cable you used for the connection to the TV .. I have a moto g200 but I don't have the cable .. Thanks
Any cable of USB-C to HDMI. There are ones also with a side port on the HDMI side that can keep the phone charged. Motorola also gives this with the G100.
What mouse is that I wish you had a link for the mouse
Does it support Prime Video/Netflix on monitor by any mode-?
Yes. But Prime right now has a weird glitch that always causes the phone screen to active whenever playing a video. (gotta force turn it off after it plays.). Does it on Samsung Dex to. So hopefully Amazon will fix this in the future.
Is this phone in the UK?
How do i charge my phone while using "ready for?"
How to do on Mac this same thing from Android. there is no app for that
nice video, I wanted to ask, but only to me the function transmit wifi screen so without hdmi cable it does not work? if instead I go to the youtube app and look for the tv it finds it otherwise if I want to divide the whole smartphobe it does not find the tv
G100/200 Wired till Android 12 update then Wireless also .Edge+2020-Edge+ 2022 can do wireless and wired Ready-For. But Edge 2021 can only do wireless due to that it's usb port is only 2.0 vs 3.1 video output.
All other motorola phones do not support full wireless function. Which means it doesn't allow to standard Smart TV's that function on Microsoft's Miracast function. So you are only able to 'Screen cast' to Chrome enabled TV's via Screen-Sharing (No ready for desktop modes).
This is great!
The could fix the name though
Whether it also charge the phone?
If the dock you use has ability to charge. If not, Then no unless you use a wireless platform.
Motorola g9 play will have this too?
IS NEED ANY APPLICATION TO INSTALL THE PARING DEVICE, BECAUSE I HAVE MOTO G84 5G , ITS ASKING APPLICATION AND SCREEN SIZE 720P ONLY I CANT ABLE TO INCRESE
When dose the update come up?
It would be tricky to charge the phone while also outputting wired display.
Wireless Scrcpy is a better way to do it
If you have a USB-C monitor like this, it charges the device at the same time through the Type C connection. Also, this is an entirely different experience from scrcpy.
When using external monitor, it can be a bit of a problem. But if you are using a universal lapdock such as NexDock Touch and U PERFECT X True Portable Monitor, you definitely have no problem to charge the phone while using the phone's Desktop Mode.
will this work on the basic Motorola Edge phone also ?
I don't believe so. Unless you mean the new Edge 2021. but the older edge 2020 i don't think so. This Ready-For was only really for Verizon's Edge+ before the newer G100/200 and Edge 20's/30's came around.
If you want. The US version of the G100 and Edge 2021's do have Ready-For. But Edge 2021 has no support for Wired Ready-For/Video out. Only G100. But G100 has gotten update to Android 12 and has wireless Ready-For also. + it packs more power since the G100 uses a SD 870 vs the edge 2021 that only uses a SD 778G.
i would like to asked if it is compatible also with the motorola edge (non plus version) thanks
Unfortunately, no. There is no Ready For support for the vanilla Edge.
Is this available in motorola edge 20 fusion
Yeyyyy new vid!
Is It necessary an original cable for plugging moto desktop into a monitor?
Original cable is just USB C to such. You'd need a USB C to HDMI or USB C to USB C (if the Monitor/TV has USB C/display input port).
How to use HDMI cable and Bluetooth keyboard at the same time
Which resolutions and Hz can it support??
I believe up to 4k and 60hz
There are problems for me with two things in this ready for platform while connected to 85inch Samsung 4k tv.
1. Tried over 10 USB c dongles with gigabit internet and it appears that it detects some and then it appears to crash and does detect lan connection until reboot and seems to crash after an hour or so.
Second, it doesn't play nicely with an app called Fubotv it flickers on that app which causes the live stream to stop working. It works without being connected to the TV. I will try it with mirror option and see if it does the same.
Does anyone know how to revert back to Android 11 as I heard that lan connection used to work effectively on that version?
Can you charge the phone while connect to your desktop experience?
If you use a lapdock, you can. You can't do that if you connect to an external monitor or a TV though.
The G100 gets shipped with a USB-C to HDMI. But what is unique to it's cable. Is it's got a USB-C port on the HDMI side that you can plug your charging cable into and it'll passthru the charging power back to the phone to keep it charged. I believe there's some similar versions being sold on amazon now.
Do you need to have it run through windows 10?
No, you don't have to. Ready For is a feature baked in Motorola's Android OS software. That said, the current Edge 20 series allows you to use Ready For on a Windows PC.
It's pretty cool
Is this just the default desktop mode of android 11 ? I can't tell the difference
Android doesn't have a desktop mode by default
No. The desktop framework that's baked into Android 10/11 is just that, a framework. This Motorola desktop mode is a completely different experience from an end-user perspective, but is likely built on top of the framework.
@@nickthaskater sounds like a yes to me
@@YounesLayachi how is it the default desktop mode when it's a Motorola-specific interface? Just because it's built on a common framework doesn't mean it's at all like the framework itself.
@@nickthaskater well it's like android with a different launcher app :D
I bet Samsung is waiting for competition before letting the refresh rate raise above 60 just to use it as a sales tactic. if they just did it now they'd be ahead of the curve because I'm shopping around for a phone desktop that does more than 60 hz, they kind of upset me when they let me have 120 hz then took it away saying it was a bug
Can anyone share Ready For Assistant Software Link aur Drive link? Cause from Microsoft store is not found.