Bands listed: Von Demoncy Judas Iscariot Havohej Grand Belial's Key Absu Black Witchery Wind of the Black Mountains Weakling Nachtmystium Leviathan Fog Xasthur Wolves in the Throne Room Inquisition Von Goat Arizmenda Ash Borer Ancestral Shadows Our Place of Worship is Silence Volahn Blue Hummingbird on the Left Torture Chain Obsequiae Uada Sinira Hulder Panopticon Pan-Amerikan Native Front Mare Cognitum
Thanks for making this video. I listen to a fair amount of black metal, but a lot of these are new to me… I love that there is always new music to discover!
The fact he had the balls to mention bands like GBK and Inquisition made me pay my respects. Hate it when posers pretend certain BM bands dont exist and puzzyfoot their way out.
To me, Leviathan's magnum opus will always be Massive Conspiracy Against All Life. I don't think I've ever heard an album like that by any other artist, or even from Wrest himself, it feels compeletely unprecedented. But Scar Sighted was another kind of masterpiece and I love it to this day.
I know Marz (Hulder). Her first band, the Fly Traps, used to play at my bar in Long Beach when she was 16. She is from Belgium, lived in OC, and then moved to Oregon. I love seeing my friend get some recognition.
I'm 42. My first contact with Extreme Metal was back in '98. I stared with Therion, then moved to American Death Metal bands like Monstrosity, Morbid Angel, Deicide, and others. But then I started listening to some melodic Death like Dark Tranquility and then came across Satyricon's Mother North. I instantly found my favorite Metal style. Gorgoroth, Darkthrone, Emperor, Mayhem are among my favorite bands. Now, more than 20 years later and thanks to this vid, I get to know what the USA has to offer. So, thanks for that! I'll be adding some of these bands to my Playlist. 🤟
I guess I progressed pretty fast, I was already way into the more obscure underground bands by that time. I began with the mortal Kombat soundtrack which led me to napalm death and a year from then I was already starting down the path to black metal. Yeah my first cd purchase was extreme metal, my second was Morbid Angel, Deicide and Suffocation. I didn't even know who they were at the time I just saw the covers and knew that it was going to be killer metal. I had the Metallica and Pantera stage too it just happened simultaneously with the others.
I really appreciate the effort you put into this video. It was very well presented. As a one-man USBM band myself, it’s awesome to see my region getting an in-depth representation, and I learned about several new bands that I’m eager to explore further. Thank you! Vide from Louisiana is a breathtaking, one-man, bayou-atmosphere-laden black metal project that I consider to be one of the most original, modern black metal artists in America today. I strongly recommend checking it out.
Great video! Early releases were blown through so fast, so I threw together a list of awesome American black metal CDs that fucking kill: Abazagorath - Tenebrarum Cadent Exsurgemus Abazagorath - Channeling the Ethereal Moons Absu - Tara Absu - The Sun of Tiphareth Absu - Barathrum: V.I.T.R.I.O.L. Ancient Gods/Infinitum Obscure - split CD Black Funeral - Empire of Blood Cryptic Winds - Storms of the Black Millennium Cultus Profano - Sacramentum Obscurus Darkmoon - Vengeance for Withered Hearts Darkmoon - Seas of Unrest December Wolves - 'Til Ten Years Demoncy - Joined in Darkness Demonic Christ - Punishment for Ignorance Draconis - Overlords of the Greying Dawn Epoch of Unlight - What Will Be Has Been Epoch of Unlight - Black & Crimson Glory Epoch of Unlight - Within the Night EP Fog - Through the Eyes of Night... Winged They Come Goatlord - Reflections of the Solstice Harvist - A Gleam in the Night Havohej - Dethrone the son of god I.C.E. - Apocalyptic in White I.C.E. - Imperial Crystalline Entombment Judas Iscariot - Distant in Solitary Night Judas Iscariot - To Embrace the Corpses Bleeding Judas Iscariot - Heaven in Flames Judas Iscariot - Dethroned, Conquered and Forgotten Judas Iscariot - Thy Dying Light Judas Iscariot - The Cold Earth Slept Below... Lucifer's Hammer - Ghosts of Fall Lucifer's Hammer - The Mists of Time Manticore - bowels of the holy anoint us in evil Manticore - Ritual Cleansing of the Whore Midnight Mass - Beneath a Pale Lit Sky Mysteriarch - Mournful Embrace of Aeons Mysteriarch - The Majestic Fall Namtaru - The Plagues of Namtar Noctuary - For Salvation... Noctuary - Where All Agony Prevails Nokturne - Embracer of Dark Ages Of The Fallen - 1998 Wild Rags Of The Fallen - Sign the Spell Resuscitator - Iniciation Ritual - Soldiers Under Satan's Command Ritual - Demonic Winter Metal Ritual - The Summoning Sarcophagus - Dead Noise cassette Sarcophagus - Requiem to the Death of Passion Sarcophagus - Sarcophagus/Dead Noise/Ubermensch Sarcophagus - For We... Who Are Consumed by the Darkness Serberus - In Eternity Thy Infernal - Warlords of Hell Thy Infernal - Satan's Wrath Wind of the Black Mountains - Black Sun Shall Rise Wind of the Black Mountains - Sing Thou Unholy Servants
Great video, very happy to see Sinara mentioned here. The underground USBM scene consisting of bands like Till, Forest of Jinn, Vampirska, and Henbane Chariot is so exciting and I'm happy that my band gets lumped in with them.
The first band Von came to mind prior to the start, glad they didn't get left out, Leviathan is fkn great, also Xasthur really has his own sound I like. Great video.
Fun watch. Some of my favorite USBM bands not mentioned are Velvet Cacoon, Crimson Moon, Nightbringer, Falls Of Rauros, Lamp Of Murmuur, and Ebony Pendant.
Great video, very comprehensive for anyone wishing to dip their toes into the world of USBM. Always going to be bands that are missed but the comments section will correct that. Good job!
I had the pleasure of briefly befriending Tregenda of Black Witchery (Steve Childers of Public Assassin) in Springfield MO before his death. Awesome guy!
One of my favourites not mentioned is Krohm, amazing atmospheric and depressive one man bm with only two albums, their first A World Through Dead Eyes I’ve loved since it came out, but A Haunting Presence, their second and to this day last album, is a flat out masterpiece and one of my all time favourites in USBM
Weakling, Lurker Of Chalice/Leviathan, VON, ASH(U.S. Pennsylvania), Xasthur, Judas Iscariot, Nachtmystium, GBK, Ceremonial Castings... There's so much good, unique shit here in the U.S.!
Before watching this video my favorite bands were hozier and imagine dragons. Now I’m cool and listen to rock and roll groups like skip knot and the other hard rocks you mentioned in the video! Great video 2 devil horns up (instead of thumbs)!
My man this is an amazing video and props for showing the controversial bands too because i believe they have been very important to the scene and deserve mentions
Kudlaakh, Valac, Vide are some stellar current US projects making music for anyone interested. For some slightly older US bands I also would like to recommend Cursed for Eternity, and Appalachian Winter from WV. Awesome video btw
I always forget that I got to open for Absu years ago. Sadly it wasn’t a good show and a bunch of people didn’t go because of a massive storm that hit my city that night. But that was a very cool legacy band to open for
@@ulver1187 Unfortunately, a lotta people, brother. In 2013, my band played a fest with Forteresse in Montreal (along with Tsjuder, Taake, Throne of Katharsis, Baptism, Behexen, Horna, and others) and it was my 1st experience of their music. They were absolutely fantastic! I try to turn people onto them as often as possible and believe they should be listened to by a much larger segment of black metallers. (That was a sick fest, btw. It was killer playing with 2 of my all time faves: Taake & Tsjuder. It was the second of our 1st 2 shows we had ever played in Canada and we partied nonstop with the members of AMSG who were there to take in the fest. The metallers in Montreal are some of the best in the world, I think. The crowd was savage! A very memorable experience and many new allies from that gig. cheers!)
Nuclearhammer, Adversarial, Antediluvian, Mitochondrion, Radioactive Vomit, Necroholocaust, Death Worship... Along with the ancient legions of Australian Satanic soldiers, I believe Canuker warmetal is the very best. Ross Bay Cult Eternal indeed, guy.
Allthough BF weren't on the list, they were spotted in the mentions of all the other bands that exist. You could clearly see Black Funeral's logo in there. And Crimson Moon & Averse Sefira should def have been on the list, along with Nightbringer, Akhlys, Krohm & Abazagorath.
I am rather shocked that Thornspawn or Averse Sefira wasn't mentioned in the foundational bands. Texas offered a LOT to USBM, shockingly enough. Here in New England we have a pretty solid USBM scene with the likes of One Master, Profanatica (Paul Ledney is from CT), Obsidian Tongue, Dzo-Nga, Feral, Haxen, Witch King, Bog of the infidel. So many to mention. All in all this was a great video!
@@RequiemDead Reaper was my dude. Rest in Power, Chris... you were a maniac's maniac. And I believe Terry is no longer with them, but that cat is LEGEND!!
@@alugificator No word. I haven’t seen the father for quite sometime. Maybe a year. I own a restaurant and that’s how I met the old man. His dad is a great guy. Even met his mother. They were both supportive. At the time I remember them saying he was still at it.
Andy is a cool mofo... wish he come back into this cult of ours. I knew he was in Germany for a bit. I lived there for 6 years from 04-10 and seems I had just missed him.
Really happy to see sinira in this. Ths guy behind the project is a damn mastermind. The song "the everlorn" has one of the best mellodic and atmospheric passages i have ever heard
Nice to see someone arizmenda. Ive liked them a lot for a while but rarely does anyone, even among USBM fans, know who they are. I still think of Within the Vacuum of Infinity, as one of my favorite USBM albums. It's just so good from start to finish. And i always appreciate a band that has a sound pretty unique to them
No doubt! A band that kept the US scene going during a stagnant period, I think. Xaphan deserves a good deal of credit for promoting awareness of US based extreme music in general with his record label. In 2014 he released the album our band had produced just before I joined them in 2013 on his Arctic Music Group label. I'm pictured and listed in the liner notes on bass but didn't actually perform on that record.
I really enjoy your video style, the entire video is consistently interesting and just overall comfy and easy to watch if that makes sense, you definitely deserve more subs
Some people were fascinated by 90's Norwegian black metal because of the murders and church burnings, but in the 90's the shit that American black metal bands did and their crimes would make Norwegian black metal look like wimps compared to the American black metal bands and their crimes like, killing their girlfriends in satanic rituals, killing one neighbor's family, killing someone on stage, killing ones own mother, double homicide, and all this was done way before Euronymous was killed!!! Its just that the media never covered any of it because America is a big country and things like this happen everyday, and Norway is a small country and because of that it became big news!!!
So many people here talking shit about US black metal, and to a degree you may be right, but I'm almost positive most of you have never listened to "Dead as Dreams" by Weakling. That should be the album that literally puts many of your "all USBM sucks" arguments to rest. Even Fenriz himself called it a masterpiece.
Fenriz says alot of things. Given how he’s trying to win brownie with the stoner doom hipsters I wouldn’t put much stock in what he says. He’s pretty much an absolute joke at this point.
@@infernicide666 As much as you may be right, I gotta say, he wasn't wrong about "Dead as Dreams," at least to me anyways. I think many arguments can be made about US black metal not being as original as black metal from other nations, but Weakling really honed in on something that most black metal bands could only ever dream of doing. I think even some of the biggest black metal purists could agree that this record is an exception for US black metal.
Yeah, Germany is another country with plenty of sick bands. I've been listening to a good bit of Odal and Sarkrista lately. Nagelfar is probably my favorite German band. I haven't listened to Horn. I'll check them out :)
@@LukeHellwalker Absolutely interested. I'm always down to check out new bands, and others posting their recommendations was something I hoped for in putting out these videos.
@@eddymetal Alright then. Permafrost, Nyktalgia, Aaskereia, Stahlfront, Totenburg, Blutrache, Leichenzug, Knochenfell, Waffenträger Luzifers, Vargsang, Hexengrab, Daemonheim, Silberbach, Thromos, Halphas, Schrat, Drudensang, Blackshore, Unlight, Krater... Just to give you a quick start on some that might be a little less known outside of Germany
I completely agree with you. LEVIA⸸HAN It is without a doubt one of the best USBM projects that I have heard in my life. The media and the journalistic press that classified it as of "DSBM" has simply been nonsense. I'm already finishing some tracks from his whole discography (and I still have to explore his work on Twilight). I have learned a lot from their music and have been quite fascinated.Although of course, not everything in the discography is perfect and some few things did not end up convincing me, I can say that Mr. Wrest he put everything into his music release from 1998 to part of 2008 with a hiatus and return in 2011 onwards. I admire the hateful, thunderous, fast and chaotic sound full of his anger that he managed to capture through concepts and themes such as human depravity, homicide, rape, mental corruption, self-destruction and self-extermination, loneliness, melancholy, and endless.
This is a really solid list and I personally enjoy USBM even more than their European counterparts. I do wish you would include a good starting point for each band (maybe a pivotal song or album), but this is a minor complaint. Also, I highly recommend "Northern Blood" by Appalachian Winter and "Eyes of Noctum" by Eyes of Noctum
I'm from Indiana and I've never heard of fog I'll have to check them out. I started my black metal project Death Impala Back in 19 It has one full LP and a EP. nachtmystium was the main reason for it I really owe blake alot of thanks for helping me start that project. Alot people want nothing to do with him for understandble reasons. But i would not be here today if not for him.
Really good video. Ritual from Los Angeles needs a mention. Their album the Summoning from 1995 is a must listen. I also would have liked Ludicra to be mentioned.
This was a cool video, great work. I dont want to get into whose missing here and all, but along with Von, Profanatica are among the first. You did add Havohej though! I would have included Black Funeral over Wind of the Black Mountains, but again, not looking to criticize!
Black Funeral was the biggest omission imo, so I actually kind of agree with you. By the time I realized I didn't dedicate a full segment to them the video was almost completely finished. I knew if I added them, I'd add another, then another, and it would be hard to stop. Didn't want to get stuck in that vortex and risk never releasing the video. Your collection vids are sick! Thanks for the comment
Great video! Thanks for adding the Akhlys nod at the end. Mare Cognitum is one of my favorites as well... but I didn't know it was pronounced "Mair-E" Cognitum? I've cherished black metal and it's subgenres for years, but with age, I favor USBM more than ever ❤️ Please upload more videos! I would be an loyal and replay subscriber 🤘
That's how I've always heard it pronounced in the context of lunar mare. I haven't heard Jake himself pronounce the band name, so perhaps it has a unique pronunciation like Acheron? Not sure. I'm known to mess up band pronunciations from time to time (I guess I really butchered Obsequiae). Thanks for affirmation! I've been working on one for a while. I'd expect late June, early July, but can't make any concrete promises yet.
@@eddymetal awesome, I will keep an eye out. I know it's a lot of work so I appreciate a long and well designed video. Maybe I'll ask Jacob and see what he says... He'll probably say yes to both Lol
Well I think there are a couple of early American black metal bands during the first wave. Possessed’s first album was intentionally black Metal, Funeral Nation was black thrash which I still consider as a first wave
this video hopped in my recommendations and im very glad, was shocked to see how low the sub count is for your channel, consider me a new one! hope this keeps blowing up, videos on all the various black metal genres would be dope
Hey you didn't mention my band! I'll have you know we have released one demo AND a split and we are very influential (among certain people in my friend group).
Top-notch video, content- and productionwise. The 2 bands I personally miss are Aklyhs and Minenwerfer. Since I am from Germany where religion kinda died 40 years ago, I am more into nihilistic and depressive themes and aesthetics. Corpse paint and satanic lyrics are a downgrade for me personally.
grand belial's key is my absolute favourite black metal band of all black metal bands will you do videos like this of other metal subgenres like death metal or sludge or thrash
Judas Iscariot is my favo American Blackmetal Band around 90es..Havohej too..even their logo is inspiring my own blackmetal logo btw🖤🖤🖤 Hail American BM!!!
Thanks very interesting and informative video. Somehow I like USBM. One of the first bands from USA I started to listen was Absu and later Abazagorath.
So this was good, some aspects wrong but I won't be a dick about it. So I will focus on the "Cascadian" thing. I grew up in that, and now produce a few projects in the PNW. The rise of our scene is much older than the 2000's, and I will admit was shrouded in some controversy. Notably, murders that are listed in the okay, but informative book Lords of chaos. The biggest band that I feel is looked over in this video is Thy Infernal. Which members later were Winter of Apocolypse and Weregoat. The term Cascadian was actually more a vernacular that we just took on as time went on, but the only band I can recall openly stating that was their style was Skagos. WITTR has got the big eye of the world on em, but they are very much not the progenitors and they will even tell you that. Agalloch, Thy Infernal, and Blasphemy were our bigger idols for the Oregon scene. Going into the early 2000's there was no money, venues albeit a bar or two in Portland and Seattle that would openly allow the acts to be themselves. So we had to organize everything out of pocket. If you're in Oregon and Washington you owe a great debt to Jake in Uada. Most see his work now, but back in the days of 04-05 I met him through booking some charity festivals. He ran, produced, managed, and booked his own label dark forest productions. Which signed a lot of local talents. He also out of pocket organized many festivals to make sure the scene stayed alive during that time. The biggest I feel was the Northwestern Black Circle Festivals. Which gave us young bucks the ability to see some of our idols, and hell even play with them. My band's drummer for example his 2nd show ever was opening for Rotting christ at a dive bar. Let that sink in. Yet, that's how it was at the time. Jake was able to gather some of the biggest names he could to play our hick state. I got to see 1349, Marduk, and Rotting christ in a crowd less than 50. Hard to think that would ever happen again. In the early 2000s there was also Fall of the Bastards, Oakhelm, L'Acéphale, Leech, and Skagos who were pioneering which later became the "Cascadian" sound. Now as many want to say or touting they know, it's really simple folk music. The PNW has a ton of it, and a lot of it is from Scandinavian mixed with Appalachian styles. There is a vibrant folk scene here, and many BM members are a part of it. I myself am an Oregon native of Scandinavian heritage(which is super common and really not special at all) grew up going to Scandi festivals, and folk shows that are F'ing everywhere. That has a big impact on the styles we write. The coastline has a ton of Scandi settled towns, for example, Poulsbo in Washington. So, that is really it when it comes to the Cascadian style. It's the mix of all of us forest kids growing up listing to and playing folk music, and liking the same Black metal bands. Solid video and I hope I shined some light on the PNW's side of the history of American Black Metal. -Hails.
Black metal history is always interesting to read about. Thank you for sharing! These stories are important as time goes on and fans forget/new fans find the scene.
@@Davidbrompton58 Don't know if its my mental issues, so I can't tell if this is a compliment or thinking it's BS. My drummers' name is Jesse, and the band he founded is Tormentium. The show was in 06-07 and was at the Satyricon in Portland Oregon with Rotten Sound. -Cheers.
Grew up a hardcore kid but lately trying to learn about BM. I appreciate this video so much l. So many other YT won’t mention nzi or discuss the type of issues they write about or hyper emphasize THEY DO NOT AGREE W THE BAND THEY ARE JUST EXPLAINING WHO THEY ARE it’s like they make a BM video but too afraid to just explain certain genres of it I’m literally just trying to understand the bands and genres and it’s like hyper taboo anyone even explain it. So thank you
@NJP-Supremacist China has a Nationalized instance of the Internet and it's not better. Governments don't really have anything to gain by giving their citizens more free speech.
Got to mention HELLHOUSE 'Burn For Peace' ep from 1986 (very early and underrated US black metal from NY...it is seriously one of the most extreme metal releases of the 1980s!!) Look it up if not familiar. Demoncy is definitely my favorite US black metal band (they could easily be a dark death metal band if they had growled vocal style). Also Deteriorate 'The Senectuous Entrance' 1996 mcd was pretty impressive. Leviathan 'The Tenth Sublevel of Suicide' is another fav (sounds great on vinyl too!!). -Devon (Somnolence)
Bands listed:
Von
Demoncy
Judas Iscariot
Havohej
Grand Belial's Key
Absu
Black Witchery
Wind of the Black Mountains
Weakling
Nachtmystium
Leviathan
Fog
Xasthur
Wolves in the Throne Room
Inquisition
Von Goat
Arizmenda
Ash Borer
Ancestral Shadows
Our Place of Worship is Silence
Volahn
Blue Hummingbird on the Left
Torture Chain
Obsequiae
Uada
Sinira
Hulder
Panopticon
Pan-Amerikan Native Front
Mare Cognitum
We dont need it to become trendy.
thanks. didnt catch much names from the video
@@retrogrind Fuckin poser
@@blasphemylord6663 lmao
They should've placed masochist or summon instead of Winds of the Black Mountain
Wow, never would have guessed the first American Black Metal band was from Hawaii!
Bruh Hawaii is GRIMAF
Ohana means Satan 😄
N.M.E. is from Washington, not Hawaii.
@@SpergerKing he means VON
@@huskerdevil24 I'm aware of that. I'm positing NME as the first USBM band.
Thanks for making this video. I listen to a fair amount of black metal, but a lot of these are new to me… I love that there is always new music to discover!
Excellent job with this documentary, you really hit the nail on the head with your extensive, and inclusive research 🤌🤌
The fact he had the balls to mention bands like GBK and Inquisition made me pay my respects. Hate it when posers pretend certain BM bands dont exist and puzzyfoot their way out.
To me, Leviathan's magnum opus will always be Massive Conspiracy Against All Life. I don't think I've ever heard an album like that by any other artist, or even from Wrest himself, it feels compeletely unprecedented. But Scar Sighted was another kind of masterpiece and I love it to this day.
Massive Conspiracy is absolutely essential listening.
@@JokerLokison What are your favorite songs by Leviathan?
Top 10 or 15 if you don't mind
Grand Belials key is the best USBM band in my opinion, they have the most creative style and the best riffs. Volahn is my #2 best USBM band
I know Marz (Hulder). Her first band, the Fly Traps, used to play at my bar in Long Beach when she was 16. She is from Belgium, lived in OC, and then moved to Oregon. I love seeing my friend get some recognition.
@@RavenMacGowan I got to see Hulder last year and will see them again this November! 💀⚔️ HAILS!
Really cool to see Fog featured here. I gotta give you some praise. This was well done. Your selections are all a fair representation of your topic.
Thanks for the kind words!
Dude..good job. Straight up and solid BM video ...
I love the passion and time put into this video. You brought light to so many good bands like and Ancestral Shadows.
I'm 42. My first contact with Extreme Metal was back in '98. I stared with Therion, then moved to American Death Metal bands like Monstrosity, Morbid Angel, Deicide, and others. But then I started listening to some melodic Death like Dark Tranquility and then came across Satyricon's Mother North. I instantly found my favorite Metal style. Gorgoroth, Darkthrone, Emperor, Mayhem are among my favorite bands.
Now, more than 20 years later and thanks to this vid, I get to know what the USA has to offer. So, thanks for that!
I'll be adding some of these bands to my Playlist. 🤟
I guess I progressed pretty fast, I was already way into the more obscure underground bands by that time. I began with the mortal Kombat soundtrack which led me to napalm death and a year from then I was already starting down the path to black metal. Yeah my first cd purchase was extreme metal, my second was Morbid Angel, Deicide and Suffocation. I didn't even know who they were at the time I just saw the covers and knew that it was going to be killer metal. I had the Metallica and Pantera stage too it just happened simultaneously with the others.
I really appreciate the effort you put into this video. It was very well presented. As a one-man USBM band myself, it’s awesome to see my region getting an in-depth representation, and I learned about several new bands that I’m eager to explore further. Thank you!
Vide from Louisiana is a breathtaking, one-man, bayou-atmosphere-laden black metal project that I consider to be one of the most original, modern black metal artists in America today. I strongly recommend checking it out.
Any album to start with?
Great video! Early releases were blown through so fast, so I threw together a list of awesome American black metal CDs that fucking kill:
Abazagorath - Tenebrarum Cadent Exsurgemus
Abazagorath - Channeling the Ethereal Moons
Absu - Tara
Absu - The Sun of Tiphareth
Absu - Barathrum: V.I.T.R.I.O.L.
Ancient Gods/Infinitum Obscure - split CD
Black Funeral - Empire of Blood
Cryptic Winds - Storms of the Black Millennium
Cultus Profano - Sacramentum Obscurus
Darkmoon - Vengeance for Withered Hearts
Darkmoon - Seas of Unrest
December Wolves - 'Til Ten Years
Demoncy - Joined in Darkness
Demonic Christ - Punishment for Ignorance
Draconis - Overlords of the Greying Dawn
Epoch of Unlight - What Will Be Has Been
Epoch of Unlight - Black & Crimson Glory
Epoch of Unlight - Within the Night EP
Fog - Through the Eyes of Night... Winged They Come
Goatlord - Reflections of the Solstice
Harvist - A Gleam in the Night
Havohej - Dethrone the son of god
I.C.E. - Apocalyptic in White
I.C.E. - Imperial Crystalline Entombment
Judas Iscariot - Distant in Solitary Night
Judas Iscariot - To Embrace the Corpses Bleeding
Judas Iscariot - Heaven in Flames
Judas Iscariot - Dethroned, Conquered and Forgotten
Judas Iscariot - Thy Dying Light
Judas Iscariot - The Cold Earth Slept Below...
Lucifer's Hammer - Ghosts of Fall
Lucifer's Hammer - The Mists of Time
Manticore - bowels of the holy anoint us in evil
Manticore - Ritual Cleansing of the Whore
Midnight Mass - Beneath a Pale Lit Sky
Mysteriarch - Mournful Embrace of Aeons
Mysteriarch - The Majestic Fall
Namtaru - The Plagues of Namtar
Noctuary - For Salvation...
Noctuary - Where All Agony Prevails
Nokturne - Embracer of Dark Ages
Of The Fallen - 1998 Wild Rags
Of The Fallen - Sign the Spell
Resuscitator - Iniciation
Ritual - Soldiers Under Satan's Command
Ritual - Demonic Winter Metal
Ritual - The Summoning
Sarcophagus - Dead Noise cassette
Sarcophagus - Requiem to the Death of Passion
Sarcophagus - Sarcophagus/Dead Noise/Ubermensch
Sarcophagus - For We... Who Are Consumed by the Darkness
Serberus - In Eternity
Thy Infernal - Warlords of Hell
Thy Infernal - Satan's Wrath
Wind of the Black Mountains - Black Sun Shall Rise
Wind of the Black Mountains - Sing Thou Unholy Servants
You never ask about your favorite black metal bands beliefs, criminal record, or political affiliation.
Yes. Lol. I had to stop listening to a buncha shit because I made that mistake. Cannot support any fucking Nazi shit.
Amen or hail satan
@@jragrobot NEMA
It's like Prison
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Kudos for mentioning Winds of the Black Mountains. Criminally overlooked band.
Great video, very happy to see Sinara mentioned here. The underground USBM scene consisting of bands like Till, Forest of Jinn, Vampirska, and Henbane Chariot is so exciting and I'm happy that my band gets lumped in with them.
Getting “lumped in” with a bunch of other bands is always a great sign that you will also get lumped out with them.
Awesome video. I have known most of these but you managed to give me some additional recommendations anyway. Thank you brother and hails from Germany!
The first band Von came to mind prior to the start, glad they didn't get left out, Leviathan is fkn great, also Xasthur really has his own sound I like. Great video.
Fun watch. Some of my favorite USBM bands not mentioned are Velvet Cacoon, Crimson Moon, Nightbringer, Falls Of Rauros, Lamp Of Murmuur, and Ebony Pendant.
GRAND BELIAL’S KEY, DEMONCY, BLACK WITCHERY… kudos on mentioning them. Supreme bands!! Total Classics of Black Metal period
Grand Belials Key is most certainly a "supreme" band .. 😂
@Ridem CowBoi yeah no lol
@Ridem CowBoi cuz I don't support Nazi metal? Lol you gonna get stomped if you talk like that offline boy
@Ridem CowBoi you know what? Imma give you that one
@Ridem CowBoi it's not karate! It's ninjitsu!!!
Absu is absolutely legendary. Unique sound and atmosphere
Finally someone talked about VON, geez, for me: Krieg, Judas Iscariot, Thornspawn, Havohej (Paul Ledney is completely insane)
THORNSPAWN!!! No doubt! Hail HOD!
Great video, very comprehensive for anyone wishing to dip their toes into the world of USBM. Always going to be bands that are missed but the comments section will correct that. Good job!
This comment section also taught me that a whole lotta people have apparently "fucked my mom"...
For US Black metal,I like Xasthur, Leviathan,Judas Iscariot,Krieg, Ashdautas, Demoncy,Absu,Nachtmystium
What are your favorite songs of Leviathan?
Top 10 or 15 if you don't mind
I had the pleasure of briefly befriending Tregenda of Black Witchery (Steve Childers of Public Assassin) in Springfield MO before his death. Awesome guy!
One of my favourites not mentioned is Krohm, amazing atmospheric and depressive one man bm with only two albums, their first A World Through Dead Eyes I’ve loved since it came out, but A Haunting Presence, their second and to this day last album, is a flat out masterpiece and one of my all time favourites in USBM
Krohm, Nøne, Akhlys, Thy Infernal are also some fun ones
Weakling, Lurker Of Chalice/Leviathan, VON, ASH(U.S. Pennsylvania), Xasthur, Judas Iscariot, Nachtmystium, GBK, Ceremonial Castings... There's so much good, unique shit here in the U.S.!
What are your favorite songs by Leviathan?
Top 10 or 15 if you don't mind
One-man is best for Black Metal. No compromise or committee thinking.
Wrong. Thanks for your opinion tho
@@beetleborg4171 So his opinion is wrong but your opinion of him being wrong is right?
looking on TH-cam at WHO REALLY INVENTED SATANIC METAL?
@@blackpagan100 please have a look on TH-cam at WHO REALLY INVENTED SATANIC METAL?
@@nicholaswolf3822 I did… and your point is?
Great video, you should do more like this for other genres. Would love video essays on specific bands, scenes, or something to
Before watching this video my favorite bands were hozier and imagine dragons. Now I’m cool and listen to rock and roll groups like skip knot and the other hard rocks you mentioned in the video! Great video 2 devil horns up (instead of thumbs)!
this has to be ironic
@@tales-of-fossegrim legit aye this can't be real ahah
you should check out korn and neckelbeard
What?
Good shit, glad to see Black Twilight getting some love. Yellow Eyes and Vanum are putting out some of my favorite black metal these days
Panopticon, Lamp of Murmuur, Leviathan, Abazagorath, Trha, Bloody Keep !
LoM!!!
I love Lamp
My man this is an amazing video and props for showing the controversial bands too because i believe they have been very important to the scene and deserve mentions
No Black Funeral? Something is wrong with this video.
Grand Belial's Key is a top teir black metal band. Might be the only US black metal band I'd put in my top 5.
Kudlaakh, Valac, Vide are some stellar current US projects making music for anyone interested. For some slightly older US bands I also would like to recommend Cursed for Eternity, and Appalachian Winter from WV. Awesome video btw
Vide is definitely incredible. Among the best USBM, in my opinion.
FIN, Kult of Azazel, Athame and ZUD are a few of my fav USBM bands.
I always forget that I got to open for Absu years ago. Sadly it wasn’t a good show and a bunch of people didn’t go because of a massive storm that hit my city that night. But that was a very cool legacy band to open for
LOTS OF HIGH QUALITY BLACK METAL HERE! The Canadian scene is also criminally underrated.
Blasphemy, Necronomicon, Megiddo, Sorcier Des Glaces....!!!!
@@MarcusMaximillianAugustus Conquerer, Revenge, Akitsa as well!
Quebec bm isn't underrated at all, everyone knows it's one of the best regions to produce bm. Who doesn't know Forteresse or Monarque
@@ulver1187 Unfortunately, a lotta people, brother. In 2013, my band played a fest with Forteresse in Montreal (along with Tsjuder, Taake, Throne of Katharsis, Baptism, Behexen, Horna, and others) and it was my 1st experience of their music. They were absolutely fantastic! I try to turn people onto them as often as possible and believe they should be listened to by a much larger segment of black metallers. (That was a sick fest, btw. It was killer playing with 2 of my all time faves: Taake & Tsjuder. It was the second of our 1st 2 shows we had ever played in Canada and we partied nonstop with the members of AMSG who were there to take in the fest. The metallers in Montreal are some of the best in the world, I think. The crowd was savage! A very memorable experience and many new allies from that gig. cheers!)
Nuclearhammer, Adversarial, Antediluvian, Mitochondrion, Radioactive Vomit, Necroholocaust, Death Worship... Along with the ancient legions of Australian Satanic soldiers, I believe Canuker warmetal is the very best. Ross Bay Cult Eternal indeed, guy.
What about Black Funeral, Blood Storm, Crimson Moon, Averse Sefira, Darkness Enshroud
Allthough BF weren't on the list, they were spotted in the mentions of all the other bands that exist. You could clearly see Black Funeral's logo in there. And Crimson Moon & Averse Sefira should def have been on the list, along with Nightbringer, Akhlys, Krohm & Abazagorath.
USBM is awesome! Comming from a norwegian citizen🤘
Underrated channel
Really enjoyed the video
Great stuff, keep it up
black funeral is the pure essence of raw black metal
Hmmm interesting. I'm newer to the extreme metal scene so it's always nice to have new bands to look into.
I am rather shocked that Thornspawn or Averse Sefira wasn't mentioned in the foundational bands. Texas offered a LOT to USBM, shockingly enough. Here in New England we have a pretty solid USBM scene with the likes of One Master, Profanatica (Paul Ledney is from CT), Obsidian Tongue, Dzo-Nga, Feral, Haxen, Witch King, Bog of the infidel. So many to mention. All in all this was a great video!
Martyrvore!!!!
@@JokerLokison local fellas!
@@RequiemDead Reaper was my dude. Rest in Power, Chris... you were a maniac's maniac. And I believe Terry is no longer with them, but that cat is LEGEND!!
I know Judas Iscariot’s father. He was a big time Chicago/Cook County judge. He was oddly very supportive of his son considering he was a judge.
Any word of what happened to Andrew? Seems to have abandoned music altogether.
@@alugificator No word. I haven’t seen the father for quite sometime. Maybe a year. I own a restaurant and that’s how I met the old man. His dad is a great guy. Even met his mother. They were both supportive. At the time I remember them saying he was still at it.
@@alugificator he lives in canada now. Last I heard Andy is a college professor.
Andy is a cool mofo... wish he come back into this cult of ours. I knew he was in Germany for a bit. I lived there for 6 years from 04-10 and seems I had just missed him.
Really happy to see sinira in this. Ths guy behind the project is a damn mastermind. The song "the everlorn" has one of the best mellodic and atmospheric passages i have ever heard
Dude what a video, you earned a new subscriber.
Oh and I'd love to see a video on French black metal, especially the "Les Legions Noires" collective
Arkhon Infaustus is THE WAY.
Nice to see someone arizmenda. Ive liked them a lot for a while but rarely does anyone, even among USBM fans, know who they are.
I still think of Within the Vacuum of Infinity, as one of my favorite USBM albums. It's just so good from start to finish. And i always appreciate a band that has a sound pretty unique to them
Another great band not mentioned in the video is Kult Ov Azazel hailing from Florida formed in 1999.
No doubt! A band that kept the US scene going during a stagnant period, I think. Xaphan deserves a good deal of credit for promoting awareness of US based extreme music in general with his record label. In 2014 he released the album our band had produced just before I joined them in 2013 on his Arctic Music Group label. I'm pictured and listed in the liner notes on bass but didn't actually perform on that record.
This was great....Got some things to go look for now!!!
Sik af for the mention of the black twilight circle!⛓🇲🇽🤘🏽
Do a part two for the new wave bands, forgot devil master aye!
I really enjoy your video style, the entire video is consistently interesting and just overall comfy and easy to watch if that makes sense, you definitely deserve more subs
Thank you for the kind words!
Great video. I really enjoy some USBM bands. My favorite is WITTR.
Some people were fascinated by 90's Norwegian black metal because of the murders and church burnings, but in the 90's the shit that American black metal bands did and their crimes would make Norwegian black metal look like wimps compared to the American black metal bands and their crimes like, killing their girlfriends in satanic rituals, killing one neighbor's family, killing someone on stage, killing ones own mother, double homicide, and all this was done way before Euronymous was killed!!! Its just that the media never covered any of it because America is a big country and things like this happen everyday, and Norway is a small country and because of that it became big news!!!
Cause the main point is not criminal act. If the band sucks ass no criminal record will help it.
What are all these individual examples you're citing?? Who what where moidad his moida??
norway is a small country🤣😂
I dont know burning historic churches is a bigger lose to history than the loss of a life.
Any proof?
So many people here talking shit about US black metal, and to a degree you may be right, but I'm almost positive most of you have never listened to "Dead as Dreams" by Weakling. That should be the album that literally puts many of your "all USBM sucks" arguments to rest. Even Fenriz himself called it a masterpiece.
Fenriz says alot of things. Given how he’s trying to win brownie with the stoner doom hipsters I wouldn’t put much stock in what he says. He’s pretty much an absolute joke at this point.
@@infernicide666 As much as you may be right, I gotta say, he wasn't wrong about "Dead as Dreams," at least to me anyways. I think many arguments can be made about US black metal not being as original as black metal from other nations, but Weakling really honed in on something that most black metal bands could only ever dream of doing. I think even some of the biggest black metal purists could agree that this record is an exception for US black metal.
Solid video. Glad I was able to find some of these newer bands from this video.
Another really cool BM scene is the german one, with bands like Horn making some sick music.
Yeah, Germany is another country with plenty of sick bands. I've been listening to a good bit of Odal and Sarkrista lately. Nagelfar is probably my favorite German band. I haven't listened to Horn. I'll check them out :)
@@eddymetal I am german myself, I can give you a shitload of bands to check out if you're interested.
@@LukeHellwalker Absolutely interested. I'm always down to check out new bands, and others posting their recommendations was something I hoped for in putting out these videos.
@@eddymetal Alright then.
Permafrost, Nyktalgia, Aaskereia, Stahlfront, Totenburg, Blutrache, Leichenzug, Knochenfell, Waffenträger Luzifers, Vargsang, Hexengrab, Daemonheim, Silberbach, Thromos, Halphas, Schrat, Drudensang, Blackshore, Unlight, Krater...
Just to give you a quick start on some that might be a little less known outside of Germany
@@eddymetal Mavorim, Eisenkult, Hohenstein, Totenwache and Meuchelmord are also very popular in the german scene.
Leviathan is the coolest sounding black metal band I've ever heard. The king of USBM in my opinion
I completely agree with you. LEVIA⸸HAN It is without a doubt one of the best USBM projects that I have heard in my life. The media and the journalistic press that classified it as of "DSBM" has simply been nonsense.
I'm already finishing some tracks from his whole discography (and I still have to explore his work on Twilight). I have learned a lot from their music and have been quite fascinated.Although of course, not everything in the discography is perfect and some few things did not end up convincing me, I can say that Mr. Wrest he put everything into his music release from 1998 to part of 2008 with a hiatus and return in 2011 onwards.
I admire the hateful, thunderous, fast and chaotic sound full of his anger that he managed to capture through concepts and themes such as human depravity, homicide, rape, mental corruption, self-destruction and self-extermination, loneliness, melancholy, and endless.
This is a really solid list and I personally enjoy USBM even more than their European counterparts. I do wish you would include a good starting point for each band (maybe a pivotal song or album), but this is a minor complaint.
Also, I highly recommend "Northern Blood" by Appalachian Winter and "Eyes of Noctum" by Eyes of Noctum
@@metalheadnick555 I very much appreciate the critique. Thanks!
Wind of the Black Mountains
R.I.P Tchort
Believe it or not Alabama has had Black Metal acts such as Blood Stained Dusk, Wormreich, Witch of 1692, and Dauði.
Quinta Essentia!!!
I'm from Indiana and I've never heard of fog I'll have to check them out. I started my black metal project Death Impala Back in 19 It has one full LP and a EP. nachtmystium was the main reason for it I really owe blake alot of thanks for helping me start that project. Alot people want nothing to do with him for understandble reasons. But i would not be here today if not for him.
Fantastic list, although I was truly hoping to see Black Funeral in here. Good work nonetheless.
I wish I could like this video 109 times 👍🏼
Really good video. Ritual from Los Angeles needs a mention. Their album the Summoning from 1995 is a must listen. I also would have liked Ludicra to be mentioned.
It's wild that out of 1300 comments, you are the only one in the know. Ritual pre dates 90% of the bands mentioned, so thank you!
@@mikeonisand fvcking Draconis! Another great LA-based black metal band. And also Noctuary.
French black metal next would be awesome!
Blut Aus Nord!
@@thephoenixcycle8854 Seth.
This was a cool video, great work. I dont want to get into whose missing here and all, but along with Von, Profanatica are among the first. You did add Havohej though! I would have included Black Funeral over Wind of the Black Mountains, but again, not looking to criticize!
Black Funeral was the biggest omission imo, so I actually kind of agree with you. By the time I realized I didn't dedicate a full segment to them the video was almost completely finished. I knew if I added them, I'd add another, then another, and it would be hard to stop. Didn't want to get stuck in that vortex and risk never releasing the video. Your collection vids are sick! Thanks for the comment
@@eddymetal Thanks man! And yeah, with a video like this, you cant please everyone haha.
Cool vid....I knew maybe ten bands on that vid....and will be watching again and finding bands releases you showed...thank you 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I expected you to skip GBK due to the controversy. Props.
Andre Harris’ (Judas Iscariot) dad was a politician if I remember correctly. Last I remember, he left the states to go live in Germany.
Great list, shout out to Wayfarer even though they weren’t included.
Great video! Thanks for adding the Akhlys nod at the end. Mare Cognitum is one of my favorites as well... but I didn't know it was pronounced "Mair-E" Cognitum? I've cherished black metal and it's subgenres for years, but with age, I favor USBM more than ever ❤️
Please upload more videos! I would be an loyal and replay subscriber 🤘
That's how I've always heard it pronounced in the context of lunar mare. I haven't heard Jake himself pronounce the band name, so perhaps it has a unique pronunciation like Acheron? Not sure. I'm known to mess up band pronunciations from time to time (I guess I really butchered Obsequiae).
Thanks for affirmation! I've been working on one for a while. I'd expect late June, early July, but can't make any concrete promises yet.
@@eddymetal awesome, I will keep an eye out. I know it's a lot of work so I appreciate a long and well designed video. Maybe I'll ask Jacob and see what he says... He'll probably say yes to both Lol
No idea one of the Incantation members made black metal. Love Incantation, so this is awesome to find out
Well I think there are a couple of early American black metal bands during the first wave. Possessed’s first album was intentionally black Metal, Funeral Nation was black thrash which I still consider as a first wave
🕺 And I'm proud to be an American 🕺 (not really but love that we have some sick bands)
this video hopped in my recommendations and im very glad,
was shocked to see how low the sub count is for your channel, consider me a new one!
hope this keeps blowing up, videos on all the various black metal genres would be dope
Hey you didn't mention my band! I'll have you know we have released one demo AND a split and we are very influential (among certain people in my friend group).
Top-notch video, content- and productionwise. The 2 bands I personally miss are Aklyhs and Minenwerfer. Since I am from Germany where religion kinda died 40 years ago, I am more into nihilistic and depressive themes and aesthetics. Corpse paint and satanic lyrics are a downgrade for me personally.
WTF !!?? You forgot one of the most important Michael Ford BLACK FUNERAL !!!!!!!!🤘
Great stuff dude! Another phenomenal band "An Isolated Mind" is one for the list.
Absu from texas was sick.
Yes.
Proscriptor is releasing something new in a couple days!
I liked the idea of the Appalachian black metal band from Kentucky.
I. BUY the MUSIC...
II. SUPPORT THE ARTIST(S) & the SCENE...
grand belial's key is my absolute favourite black metal band of all black metal bands will you do videos like this of other metal subgenres like death metal or sludge or thrash
I definitely plan to do videos on other subgenres. I'm working on some death metal stuff at the moment.
@@eddymetal nice sweet as
@@eddymetal off topic but have you heard of acid bath and what do you think of them
@@jackko21 They're sick. Don't have much to say about them beyond that, but I do enjoy them quite a bit.
you should listen to more black metal then. they are ok but pretty average.
Dude youre videos are soooo good. Please keep these going!
The album Eschaton Mémoire by Chaos Moon is an underappreciated masterpiece, a perfect equilibrium between atmosphere and power...
Judas Iscariot is my favo American Blackmetal Band around 90es..Havohej too..even their logo is inspiring my own blackmetal logo btw🖤🖤🖤
Hail American BM!!!
Killer video/list dude. You mentioned a few new ones for me. Thanks.
-nyogthaeblisz
-sanguis imperum
-nocturnal blood
Leviathan, Judas Iscariot, Wolves in thron room
What are your favorite songs by Leviathan?
Top 10 or 15 if you don't mind
forgot Averse Sefira, from Texas... Great band of the 90's usbm
they fucking suck and those guys are probably the most cringe dickheads ive seen talk in an interview
Tetragrammatical Astygmata is excellent.
Thanks very interesting and informative video. Somehow I like USBM. One of the first bands from USA I started to listen was Absu and later Abazagorath.
So this was good, some aspects wrong but I won't be a dick about it. So I will focus on the "Cascadian" thing.
I grew up in that, and now produce a few projects in the PNW. The rise of our scene is much older than the 2000's, and I will admit was shrouded in some controversy. Notably, murders that are listed in the okay, but informative book Lords of chaos. The biggest band that I feel is looked over in this video is Thy Infernal. Which members later were Winter of Apocolypse and Weregoat. The term Cascadian was actually more a vernacular that we just took on as time went on, but the only band I can recall openly stating that was their style was Skagos. WITTR has got the big eye of the world on em, but they are very much not the progenitors and they will even tell you that.
Agalloch, Thy Infernal, and Blasphemy were our bigger idols for the Oregon scene. Going into the early 2000's there was no money, venues albeit a bar or two in Portland and Seattle that would openly allow the acts to be themselves. So we had to organize everything out of pocket. If you're in Oregon and Washington you owe a great debt to Jake in Uada. Most see his work now, but back in the days of 04-05 I met him through booking some charity festivals. He ran, produced, managed, and booked his own label dark forest productions. Which signed a lot of local talents. He also out of pocket organized many festivals to make sure the scene stayed alive during that time. The biggest I feel was the Northwestern Black Circle Festivals. Which gave us young bucks the ability to see some of our idols, and hell even play with them. My band's drummer for example his 2nd show ever was opening for Rotting christ at a dive bar. Let that sink in. Yet, that's how it was at the time. Jake was able to gather some of the biggest names he could to play our hick state. I got to see 1349, Marduk, and Rotting christ in a crowd less than 50. Hard to think that would ever happen again.
In the early 2000s there was also Fall of the Bastards, Oakhelm, L'Acéphale, Leech, and Skagos who were pioneering which later became the "Cascadian" sound. Now as many want to say or touting they know, it's really simple folk music. The PNW has a ton of it, and a lot of it is from Scandinavian mixed with Appalachian styles. There is a vibrant folk scene here, and many BM members are a part of it. I myself am an Oregon native of Scandinavian heritage(which is super common and really not special at all) grew up going to Scandi festivals, and folk shows that are F'ing everywhere. That has a big impact on the styles we write. The coastline has a ton of Scandi settled towns, for example, Poulsbo in Washington.
So, that is really it when it comes to the Cascadian style. It's the mix of all of us forest kids growing up listing to and playing folk music, and liking the same Black metal bands.
Solid video and I hope I shined some light on the PNW's side of the history of American Black Metal.
-Hails.
Cool story wanker..."let that sink in!"
Black metal history is always interesting to read about. Thank you for sharing! These stories are important as time goes on and fans forget/new fans find the scene.
@@Davidbrompton58 Don't know if its my mental issues, so I can't tell if this is a compliment or thinking it's BS. My drummers' name is Jesse, and the band he founded is Tormentium. The show was in 06-07 and was at the Satyricon in Portland Oregon with Rotten Sound.
-Cheers.
@@tjhope6653 nah, it was just a long winded, boastful borefest.
Weakling is my favorite usbm band
Totally, whether you like them or not is irrelevant, they definitely deserve some props for that album, one of the first USBM albums I ever heard
How is Akhlys not on this list?
Grew up a hardcore kid but lately trying to learn about BM. I appreciate this video so much l. So many other YT won’t mention nzi or discuss the type of issues they write about or hyper emphasize THEY DO NOT AGREE W THE BAND THEY ARE JUST EXPLAINING WHO THEY ARE it’s like they make a BM video but too afraid to just explain certain genres of it I’m literally just trying to understand the bands and genres and it’s like hyper taboo anyone even explain it. So thank you
Generally the rule is to never mention Nazi bands UNLESS they're seminal 2nd wave bands.
In which case "You have to look past the artist to the art".
@NJP-Supremacist I agree with you.
That's just not the Internet we have.
@NJP-Supremacist China has a Nationalized instance of the Internet and it's not better.
Governments don't really have anything to gain by giving their citizens more free speech.
Do a video on Czech Black Metal. I am a big Master's Hammer fan.
Got to mention HELLHOUSE 'Burn For Peace' ep from 1986 (very early and underrated US black metal from NY...it is seriously one of the most extreme metal releases of the 1980s!!) Look it up if not familiar.
Demoncy is definitely my favorite US black metal band (they could easily be a dark death metal band if they had growled vocal style). Also Deteriorate 'The Senectuous Entrance' 1996 mcd was pretty impressive. Leviathan 'The Tenth Sublevel of Suicide' is another fav (sounds great on vinyl too!!). -Devon (Somnolence)