Winter Driving the 2023 Type R on 18" Wheels & Tires
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- Wheels: BRAID Fullrace FF. 18x9.5 5x120 +50mm offset, 64.1mm Center Bore braidusa.com/
Tires: 265/40R18 Continental DWS 06 Plus
315 horsepower @ 6500 rpm, 310 lb-ft of torque from 2600 to 4000 rpm
6-Speed Manual Transmission
Curb weight: 3188 lbs
MPG: 22 City / 28 Highway
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Nice to see FL5 CTR owners actually experiencing the stock suspension before they actually want to modify it. So many new owners off the bat lowering them with aggressive tires thinking they can do better than Honda engineers 😂
Bravo to Topher and Tedward for real world usage. And finally someone actually talking about -gasp SCRUB RADIUS!
I felt the same with my Si, why mess with what Honda engineers came up with. Just a nice set of tires is all you need
this build and color is so sick topher. great video.
wheels are not a build
Those Braids look so dang good on the CTR! I completely agree on the improved NVH with the Conti DWS 06 +. I downsized to 18s on my Elantra N with them and I immediately recognized the improvement in ride quality and road noise. They really are an amazing tire!
I got DWS06+'s on my Elantra N, but kept the 19 inch wheels. There was a huge difference between the PS4s and the Contis.
@@jakep519 good to know!
Such a perfect car for what it is. You're brave to slide around with traction control off !
Very nice. Dailied my 2018 Si on DWS06+’s. Really an amazing tire for an all-season. Handled snow surprisingly well going through Colorado this past November.
Really insane grip on plain wet roads too.
Hey so I’m looking at getting an Si but I drive to the ski resorts here pretty often. How does it handle with those tires?
Krown is a must in the rust belt. Do it yearly and you should be good. Had a 2004 Pilot that was Krowned every year since new. No rust 15 years later when it was sold.
That’s what I love to hear!
I can vouch for yearly Krown as well. Not even a spec of rust on my 1997 4Runner.
I'm driving on 225/40R18 DWS06+ as well on an Impreza Sport, my biggest praise is how well they hold up to potholes.
That thing looks gorgeous, i'm glad you are enjoying it as well as the BRZ.
I just realized that the entire civic lineup has different color needles for the instrument cluster. Regular civics have white, Si has red, and Type R gets yellow
Yes, it's always been that way since the 90s.
@@musguelha14 I know that, I’m just saying it’s neat that they continued it with the digital clusters
@@glgarcia0713 you never said that lol. You literally said "I just realized"
Meaning you weren't aware of this in the past. It's ok to be wrong.
@@porfiriato84 my guy, I meant for this generation civic. I know the previous ones were like that
Fn2 still had red needle hmm
This wheel reminds me 98 Spec Integra Type R wheels, what a fabulous car!
Always awesome videos Topher!! I am a fan of the fl5!! I just traded my 2019 Sonic Gray Pearl fk8 and got a black fl5 last Friday! I was fortunate enough to get mine at msrp!! I have been lovin it and am excited to make it past break in!! Keep up the amazing work and have a great remainder of your weekend!🚙😀♥️
That's the best color for any car tbh, it reflects sunlight, and scratches don't show as much. Nice pick!
I missed having a white car after my 2010 GTI, so visible at night too!
Hey! I just wanted to say I love your channel! I have to wait 4 more years for a car which I'm happy to wait out, and in the mean time I like watching your content with the civic! Thanks for being there for me.
I'm sure it's inevitable, but a comparison between this and an FK8 would be awesome. I'm particularly interested in how the adaptive suspension compares between the two. The ability to change between different modes with the suspension seems almost pointless if the car just changes the settings itself regardless.
DSWS 06+ are awesome for all seasons on the dry, they are however OK in the snow, nothing to write home about! They are predictable and easy at least.
I was waiting for The Topher to buy the new type R. I could tell in previous videos that he loved the new civic type R, so I'm really happy to see I'm glad he actually owns this car.
9:04 I agree, like in those bumps if it stiffened up that doesn't increase grip, it reduces it
I didn’t seem to have the same overwhelming performance that many others have been experiencing. The car liked to hydroplane at anything over 70mph in a couple inches of water. Tread depth was still around 6-7/32” remaining when I experienced the hydroplaning. I liked the Michelin Premier A/S better, which was almost as good in the dry, much better in the wet, and 10% better in fuel consumption rate.
Awesome content , never stop doing these !
How ironic, finding that a sports car bought for its manual transmission, has an automatic suspension!
I'm a Kalamazoo native, wintering in Tucson, and your driving conditions make me homesick! Safe travels.
always love your content! keep it up!
-love from Japan
Love that you’re not afraid of using it no matter the weather haha.
Those wheels must be so much nicer going over Michigan pot holes compared to the stock ones.
Definitely a nice difference in ride vs. the 19s!
those 18s will make the car quiet and improve comfort much better, I went from 19s to 18s on my 2013 Hyundai Genesis sedan 5.0...totally love the car now, it doesnt drive like a Civic anymore.
Love every minute of this video 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Topher having a lil fun in the snow
I’ve commented this before, but I have the same 18” tire setup on my 2020 FK8, and it was very nice in snow. They aren’t winter tires, but were more than stable enough for confident commutes in heavy (for the Midwest) snow. Comfort mode and those big old brakes are your friend.
Also, FYI, make sure you disable traction control fully in +R - on the FK8 you have to hold the button down until it yells at you.
This might sound dumb especially because this video is 9 months old. But I noticed your front wheel gap is much larger than your rear wheel gap. I run a similar tire/wheel set-up, and I noticed the same thing on my type R. I found out that the dealership had left the transportation suspension blocks on. You might want to check and let me know! Either way, I love the set up!
U guys back already??? awwww wanted to see more of that canyon driving
Lots more CA videos still in the pipeline!
liking the 18’s. still waiting to see a FL5 de-winged with holes filled. the FK8 had a wonky rear tailgate setup, so a wing delete never quite looked right.
I want a swift sprung, de-winged with holes filled at a body shop, 18” Gloss Silver Regamaster, Red or Blue R.
Nice POV! I’m also interested in that mountain bike setup 👀
7:58 *That one Civic at 3:00 AM*
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functionally, these are a better combo than the factory wheel/tire. Even in the dry.
1st love the new Type R
Just picked up a set of these continentals for my 2017 Ford Fusion sport. 235/40r/19 😎
I have 245/40/18 dw06’s on my 13 accord coupe v6 on stock rims vs the factory 235/45/18. Car feels good and I love the continental’s exceptional tire wear good all year round amazing grip
Oh man this is so awesome, happy for you bro
Finally, oh my! Snow suits the civic.
love the wheels and that's why I'm watching. Braid gets very little attention in the Subaru community. it's usual Enkei, Rays, Avid1, or ESR. the slightly extra sidewall doesn't look horrible. 265/35 is a popular Subaru size and curious how the 40 aspect ratio compares in price to the 35 aspect ratio (in 265 width). hopefully you'll have less vibrations w/your DWS06 than I did w/mine (235/45/17)....
The 40 sidewalls are actually less $, surprisingly - $225 vs $233 for the 35s.
Sidewall looks way better than the rubber bands everything comes with nowadays.
Can't hate on Topher and all the other Car TH-cam influencers who got fair deals on the Type R, but I wish the average buyer got that chance too.
Got the dws-06 to replace my pilot sport 4s and on street driving they feel so similar to the 4s. Plenty of grip even on 40 degree days
not in my experience with low profile tires (215/45/18) I went through 5 of these tires (and 4 bent wheels) but luckily I had wheel and tire insurance
I don't blame the tires and would still recommend them because most likely it would be the same situation with different tires on potholes with this size tire
I have the same tires on my STI, they're great. Haven't gotten much of a chance to test them in the snow this year though.
Love seeing a FL5 getting some action in the winter, I don't know though it's just I can't bear to put a Type R in those conditions (if I happen to own one in the future). I'm just beyond terrified that it would shorten it's lifespan by weathering and rust.
It’s a type r brotha, it’s meant to be driven plus life is short.. enjoy your ride while you have it
Blixzaks on the stock rims works just fine for snow my s4s went on the forged type r rims. BTW I'm in chicago you don't need to reduce rim size.
Looks great. The speedo being off would bug me but that's just my OCD lol
LOVE these tires on my M2C
Looks like so much fun. I wish the price tag wasn’t so unreasonable.
Nice!
Nice to see one of these cars being used in the real world... You know 99% of them will sit in garages and almost never get driven...
Hopefully you're enjoying it
The road salt though 😱
Some of us can't take 30% of the year off work due to salt being present on the road
Nokian WRG4s are really good all weather tires that are snow rated that I am using for my winter tires on my FWD 2013 Accord Coupe 6MT. They still perform great in the dry/rain and in the snow when it's really cold and slushy. They are marketed as a UHP winter tire for sport cars in Europe and all weather tires here in the states. I would be curious to see your thought's on how they perform and others as well. I love them
nice wheels! I just did a similar winter setup...I had to get black alloys though, they only had grey in 32mm and it felt too far away from stock
went with 18x8 +42mm Enkei Raijin and 235/40/18 Michelin Pilot Alpin 5, if anybody is researching winter setups for FL5
this is too cool! good job topher!!!!
Bloody carpeting are going to age well.
Hi Topher! What made you switch off of these tires? After seeing this video i was considering a very similar setup (same tires, same wheel / tire specs). I thought it would be perfect for daily driver duty but it seems like you’re running a different setup now. Any regrets with the 40 profile or tires? I have an FL5 so I’m curious about your experiences.
Well civics are good for the snow. Tiny budget friendly fwd car. No problems
You’re a good a** driver!
Just gone back to fwd after years of gt86 & brz and come to the conclusion you just can't beat a rwd car.. 🤣
I drive my DC2 Integra with 14” wheels and extra sidewall for these Detroit war ravaged roads
Wheel + tire combo is killer! How bout that fat bike tho?!
wheels look good, what's the summer setup gonna be 🤔
What would you recommend for an all season set up for a Acura type-s? Would 18 in wheels fit the Acura also?
Wish you would have gotten your hands on a 2022 wrx now that you have snow in your area.
I think we have one on all seasons in a couple weeks, doubt we’ll have any snow to play in unfortunately
@@TheTopher you gotta hit that 180 again man 😂
So are those snow tires or no?
They are not. He's using Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 Plus I believe. They are rated as Ultra High performance All Season tires.
I was this or an RCF don’t know if I should wait till once I’m making money with engineering degree though
did you drive with summer tires
Is this Honda Type R better as the 2023 Golf GTI Clupsport?
Im thinking of getting 18s on my Accord Sport just because the ride is so bumpy and uncomfortable.
More than one reviewer buying this kinda confirms the last gen was too rice 😂
We want to see some donuts lol
how is it in deep Michigan snow?
my shop wouldn't ppf the black accents on the front... saying some stuff about the primer doing something to the plastic? is that a thing
There are templates for the black. My guy recommended it as it gets chipped and weathered too if unprotected.
How do you deal with the TPMS sensors on the winter wheel/tire setup? Is there a way to disable it so it does not beep?
No TPMS on the Type R! Just wheel speed sensors
Yes sorry, that is what i meant. So, i guess, if the R does not detect sensors, it does not bother you?
TPMS is useless anyway. Most people should be looking at their tires routinely@@pantag2
@thetopher Idk if you will see this but I am also getting a FL5 in a few weeks and will be getting rust coat and such protection with it. Could you recommend or give me a link to some Minnesota winter tires? As always love your videos! Always listen to you while working. ❤
One could add a turbo kit to the Subaru RS hatch and have more fun than in the Civic Type R for almost half the price of the dealer inflated Type R. It would have more headroom, an automatic transmission, and all wheel drive!!!!! An Alfa Tonale Veloce PHEV has as much sportiness, equal torque and adjustable suspension, more room in the back, all wheel drive, muuuch better looks, interior, visibility, more quiet interior and much much better gas mileage. Plus, the resale on the Alfa will be garbage next year and a steal!!!!!!! Honda can screw themselves with the dealer markups. Will stick with my used Volvo V50.
You can’t pay me enough to live in Michigan 💀 that terrible weather would ruin my beautiful cars
I keep noticing those PS4 tires make so much noise on this car. So strange because on my car, they are pretty much the most quiet tyres I ever had, and they're
F 265/30/20
R 275/30/20
Who can explain this. Maybe it's the weight factor. I drive a G30 5 Series
I dont understand why they have you do a pedal dance to actually turn off everything. In the VN you just press an easily accessible button three seconds and you're good to go, why cant every manufacturers just do that ? Especially on a freaking Type R.
That said I'd expect it to handle snow quite similarly to the VN, still FWD but good traction and quite nice rotation on sweeping corners. VN has a handbrake tho :P
Agree, it should be as easy as this.
Am I understanding DWS tires correctly that once the 'S' in the tread block wears off they become 3-season tires, and once the 'W' wears off they are summer-only? Are they only good for the first winter as all-seasons?
Yep, that's the idea!
Saludos 🖖🏻
This man has a BRZ and a Type R…I’m happy for him but sad for me
Detroit resident here- where do you get your PPF done?
Clear Auto Bra Michigan - Larry in Plymouth does an awesome job
Which floor mats do you have in the car? Honda, weathertech, or something else?
I decided to try out the Husky mats, fit seems to be a bit better than what I've experienced with weathertech, still not amazing. Should protect all the red carpet though, which is the goal!
Thanks!! Hopefully getting a my own Type R in a couple months from my local dealer. Any value in getting an engine block heater for a Midwest winter climate?
does 17 inch fit for this car?
Nope, front Brembos are too big
@@wdnalo smaller and more narrow is better for winter
do you think honda will make another type r or will everything be hybrids soon?
A Type-R hybrid would be awesome!
They say they'll keep making future generation Type Rs, what kind of hybrid/electric drivetrains they'll have going forward is up for debate. We'll find out eventually, but it's pretty safe to say that this is the last completely internal combustion Civic Type R.
Do 2023 accord please😢
Coming Tuesday!
Is there an increase in torque steer with the smaller wheels?
It’s hard to tell, maybe a very slight increase but I kinda like it.
ngl, those adaptive dampers seem like they'd get annoying real fast.
They are :/
Safari Type R???
Hahah tempting but no
The car looked really bouncy when he was talking about comfort mode adaptive suspension. It almost seems like FK8 had better suspension but I haven’t drove FL5 yet. Any insights on this thought?
Definitely preferred the fk8 suspension. Comfort mode was tuned way better and +R wasn’t so unnecessarily bouncy. I’ll see how this setup handles once it gets warmer but very tempted to switch to coilovers once an updated adaptive damper bypass gets released (want to retain drive modes).
@@TheTopher Thanks for the reply. Your reviews are the best! Overall, do you think comfort mode is ok for daily driving? I’m just looking for a fun daily but want comfort. I won’t be tracking the car. Thanks.
I don't think Krown rust control is needed on any modern vehicle, because they all have good rustproof steel. Also, they drill holes into the chassis, and fill it with oil, which then drips all over the place. Not a big fan of it.
You clearly don't live in the rustbelt.
New cars definitely hold off rusting for a few more years but eventually everything exposed to salt and the chemicals they use out here will rust (usually from the inside out where you can’t see it). It only takes about a year or two for steel suspension components to start rusting and seizing. The only thing I’ve seen that prevents it is krown or other thin oil based coatings. It’s the difference between zero rust and holes in the chassis after a decade (or less) of winter driving.
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RIP HONDA CIVIC
I don't wanna be that guy, but : first 🌝
When I lived in the northeast we took are nice cars off the road thanksgiving time and back on road April 1st. Why in the world would you ever drive that car year round in the snow? Buy a winter beater..
Tried the winter beater thing plenty of times and I’ve found it just costs more time and money in maintenance than I’m willing to spend. Also didn’t like driving an older/cheaper car that’s not as safe.
It’s not rusting with the Krown treatment and I’d rather do that along with a few other things to prevent damage instead of dealing with a car that I don’t enjoy driving as much anyway. Life is short, drive your fun cars.
@@TheTopher Other than the Krown rust proofing, PPF, and ceramic coating, what would you recommend to prevent damange from Michigan winters & salt. Fellow Michigander asking because I'm considering an Si or Type R in the next year or two.
Bro if you doing mtb get a hitch or roof rack - putting greasy muddy bikes inside is not the move.
It’ll be fine - bought seat back protectors and a trunk mat.
They ruined the type r
What did you pay for it? 60k?
amazing vid as always, topher 🫡