Kinda annoys me when people say "OHh! AddErAL is jUst OnE mOlECUle aWaY fRoM MeThAmPheTaMine." Like yeah okay... also, hydrogen peroxide is one molecule away from being water. You thirsty?
Except it’s practically the same in terms of pharmacology and effects as well. So yes, while what you say is true… it is also true that it’s nearly the same thing as methamphetamine and methamphetamine itself is also used to treat ADHD under the name Desoxyn. There is no shame in saying that you take methamphetamine-like substances. Pretending that they’re oh so different is only going to breed more skepticism when people look into the data for themselves. Anyone who’s taken both Adderall and Desoxyn orally can tell you that you can hardly even tell the difference. Now, smoking large amounts versus taking controlled doses orally is a different story entirely. But even still, amphetamine is sold on the street in the UK in the form of speed and used exactly the same way Americans use Methamphetamine via pipe. Again, it’s something to consider and realize how powerful these drugs truly are and part of me wishes I was never put on these drugs as a child. It created major hypersexuality and other typical “meth-like” effects as a child. And I know this was due to the medication due to being off for a number of years and having the same elect side effects resume after taking it as an adult. Downplaying what these substances are is equally as bad as fear-mongering, and in fact fear-mongering is what you’re doing when you make Meth out to be so much worse of a chemical
It dosnt even make sense. Methamphetamine is the molecule. As amphetamine is the molecule. I think they mean its one atom away, which again would be wrong.
I just want to make a note that for people with ADHD/ADD who experience severe anxiety prior to any treatment, the use of stimulants can actually reduce, and in some cases, entirely treat the anxiety along with the ADHD/ADD.
im not prescribed with adhd (yet) neither anxiety but im using focalin ir currently and the effects are great, i feel euphoric, focused, talkative, and happy… for like 3 hours. then i feel like a paranoid schitzo for the next 5 hours. I NEED to get a adhd script so i can take the proper drug for me
Vyvanse was a godsend for me, made me feel like a better me, tried adderall once and cause my blood pressure and heart rate to go way up, felt robotic and super anxious
Love the way you explain things I'm on the autism spectrum aspergers and have an interlectual Disability and love learning about medications it is purely a hobby and interest and you have spoken well and I understood you very well 😊
I remember there was a stimulate medication I tried once that gave me strong urges to pull my eye lashes. Got off of that one real quick once my mom realized. I’m now a vyvanse user and it’s great. I can tell if I’ve forgotten to take it. It makes such a difference, a good one for the record.
I will do this soon since you asked! I made this one back when I didn't have a lot of views, so I lost motivation to do it. but!! now I have a goal for my next video 😊
@@alanberkeley7282 Do you even know what ADHD is and the meds do? Does your brain give you dopamine? Do you not suffer from the condition? Yes? Good for you. Then mind your business and not that of others who actually do have issues and need medication like diabetics and people who need glasses :/
Vyvanse is now available in generic as Lisdexamphetamine. I stand by Concerta. It works the best for me. But I take the generic version, methylphenidate 54mg. I wouldn't mind trying focalin at some point.
Good video. Just for anyone reading this, the IR Adderall also comes in 30 mg. Mine is generic, so maybe that's a consideration, as compared to name brand doses. It's an orange round double scored pill.
Something I wanna say that I know I’ve found to be useful is to get genetic testing done to see what’s more likely to work, which more likely to result in side effects, how long it’ll last/how fast you’ll metabolize it, etc. I had one done once and it’s proved to be super useful for me and any doctors I go to. It helps show them what’s most likely to help you the most so you don’t have to jump from medicine to medicine trying to see what’ll work and/or what the best fit is. Of course this isn’t some fool proof thing. It shows what’s MOST LIKELY to happen, n’ such. Those results do NOT mean that’s just how it is and there’s nothing you can do. Just because the results say there may be a 60% chance you’ll experience side effects doesn’t mean you will experience them. It just means there’s a high probability. There’s still a 40% chance that you’ll be fine. It may seem obvious but sometimes it seems that people skim over these things and/or notice it but don’t process it and what it means. I’ve done that before too with other things in my life and, from I know, other’s do too. So I just wanted to call attention to it so that’ll it process. Sorry if it comes/came across as rude. Not intended.
Even Dexamphetamine and Vyvanse? And yup, that sucks (mor ethan that, tbh) :( Maybe Wellbutrin/Bupropion could help a bit :o I for my part hope I can get a prescription of Vyvanse/Elvanse here in Germany and don't have to pay for it or I'd be screwed.
@@Chizuru94 vyvanse is only available in one exclusive hospital for an oil company workers, a friend of mine is on it and likes it very much. I hope you get the prescription because living with unmedicated ADHD is tough
Thank you so much, I was hyper active in my childhood till aboutl 7 yrs , I used to jump from heights , attacking cats hen, attacking my kindergarten friend , but my hyperactivity came down after 7 yrs , (approximate), then It come a stage of less activity , I still suffering from attention deficit even now , I can't study more than 10 min , After that I need rest, and I feel sleepy all the time when iam doing studying or some stuff like that, is it adhd , and I have socialphobia also ,
Good to know others became like this also after they got older and are the HI type. My impulsivity (aside from some coping I learned due to countless issues and trauma) is also still high. Sucks x-x But my social anxiety keeps me from doing most things. I miss the old me, but gosh, was it also tough and did I get into trouble a lot (I'm a woman, if that makes any difference, btw, since most women are diagnosed as inattentive).
It's funny how in Italy only methylphenidate is legal, and it seems to be the one with most side effects, lol. I wish at least lisdexamfetamine was legal but nope.
What state or kinda insurance are u using? I live in Missouri on Medicare/Medicaid and here Vvanse is pretty expensive, the Focalin XR I'm prescribed costs $3.
actualy? im not prescribed yet but i cannot focus for shit at school so i started using dexmethalphenidate that he didnt use so he gave me 59 pills of 10mg IR pills for free. i asume dexmeth is cheaper than focalin but still. how much do these cost?
Thank you… I tried adderall, liked it but didn’t last as long and I’m a RN so I work 12 1/2 hours… I tried Ritalin/ concerta… max dose Extended with a afternoon boost did absolutely nothing…: now on Focalin and I like it but it makes my heart race so bad and makes me anxious… which is so weird cause adderall didn’t do that it actually calmed me!! My doctor wanted to do vyvance but my insurance has all these requirements.. like failing therapy? Trying SSRIs which I did years prior and did nothing and I hated being on them from weight gain and sleeping a lot… I kinda don’t know what to do now. :/ I feel vyvance will be much smoother for me.. but the freaking insurance..
Great video!! Thanks so much. What does of Adderall do you take? Is it Ir or Xr? I also take adderall for my Adhd and it works great!! I do take a low dose and breaks. Do you take weekends off? Thank You 😊
Information for Methylphenidate (Ritalin and Concerta) mechanism of action: psychopharmacologyinstitute.com/publication/methylphenidate-for-adhd-mechanism-of-action-and-formulations-2194#:~:text=Methylphenidate%20is%20a%20CNS%20stimulant,explain%20its%20efficacy%20in%20ADHD.
The difference between Adderall and Ritalin: scholarspace.jccc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1021&context=honors_journal#:~:text=In%20reducing%20ADHD%20symptoms%2C%20the,the%20synaptic%20space%20%5B15%5D.
A publication giving information on the mechanism of action for amphetamine (Adderall) and how it relates to dopamine: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3753078/
The difference between methylphenidate (Concerta and Ritalin) and Dexmethylphenidate (Focalin): www.nami.org/About-Mental-Illness/Treatments/Mental-Health-Medications/Types-of-Medication/Methylphenidate-or-Dexmethylphenidate-(Concerta-R
I'm on methylphenidate right now for about a month and I'm still very much so fidgeting. I'm generally ADD with the exception of fidgeting. Also my motivation is low, would Adderall be a better option, especially if not bothered my the fidgeting?
im not prescribed with adhd but im experianced with dexmethylphenidate (focalin) and also adderall. in my experience adderall seems like a way cleaner effective drug with less to no side effects. but with focalin they feel generally very similar but focalin has very very shit sideaffects. everyones different but adderall is godsend for me
with dexmethylphenidate all doses kinda feel the same, ive taken up to 125mg xr and 100mg ir and feels pretty identical to a normal 10-25mg dose shits weird
In Australia they recently put Vyvanse on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, so we only need to pay around $8 whereas the full price is/was $98 or so.
Methamphetamine and amphetamine aren’t exactly the same thing, BUT their effects are quite similar. Meth is just as Illegal as amphetamine and cocaine, and is also prescribed for ADHD, I have even known someone who was prescribed it for ADHD, and it is about as effective. I understand if you want to actually explain how they’re different, but it’s quite incorrect to just emphasize them as totally different, referring to meth as an illegal street drug and amphetamine as medicine, when they’re both extremely similar street drugs and medicine with the exact same legal status.
Here in Thailand Methamphetamine is an illegal street drug. Produced in jungle labs located in Myanmar (Burma) border area “Golden Triangle” where opium poppies once were cultivated.
I'm on vyvanse lost 7 kg within 3 months on it even though I had knee surgery and was not moving. I was trying to lose weight for so long😮 this is the only thing that helped. I lost interest in snaking and binge eating. I eat mostly ounce a day for dinner. I'm used to doing intermittent fasting but i did struggle with cravings. Where as the first week of starting elvanse I started shedding the weight simply by not feeling hungry like before 🎉🎉 the other benefit I saw was I was able to sleep better at night with out going 6 times to the 🚻. As for my adhd it did not kick in whatsoever 😢after starting with 30mg I'm on 100 and still not helping my adhd nore. Do i feel any improvement in focusing and getting tasks done. Also, my anxiety is still very bad😢 Towards the evening, I feel the crash and my anxiety getting worse😢 I really don't know if I should switch to something else since I'm not responding to it. But on the other hand I'm really happy about the suppressed appetite and the 7kg I lost . Any tipps??
I was on 10mg adderall xr for about 5 years and just a few months ago was told there is an adderall shortage so they have to change my prescription to 10mg focalin xr. I've been on it for a couple months and found it to feel very similar to the adderall but it doesn't affect my appetite as much and I have alot better control of my impulses. I like it better.
adderall from my experiance is way cleaner with less side affects. they feel the same with effectiveness but focalin always gives me awful sideaffects, that could be because i abuse the shit n take way to much but even when i take it properly i end up still feeling like shit, seems like the dose doesnt really matter because i end up getting the same hangover that i get from 10mg all the way up to 120mg
Kinda annoys me when people say "OHh! AddErAL is jUst OnE mOlECUle aWaY fRoM MeThAmPheTaMine." Like yeah okay... also, hydrogen peroxide is one molecule away from being water. You thirsty?
Lol
NaCl is different from NaCN by one letter (and I know I’m being facetious ;-)) yet I need one of them to live and one of them will kill me…
Except it’s practically the same in terms of pharmacology and effects as well. So yes, while what you say is true… it is also true that it’s nearly the same thing as methamphetamine and methamphetamine itself is also used to treat ADHD under the name Desoxyn. There is no shame in saying that you take methamphetamine-like substances. Pretending that they’re oh so different is only going to breed more skepticism when people look into the data for themselves. Anyone who’s taken both Adderall and Desoxyn orally can tell you that you can hardly even tell the difference. Now, smoking large amounts versus taking controlled doses orally is a different story entirely. But even still, amphetamine is sold on the street in the UK in the form of speed and used exactly the same way Americans use Methamphetamine via pipe. Again, it’s something to consider and realize how powerful these drugs truly are and part of me wishes I was never put on these drugs as a child. It created major hypersexuality and other typical “meth-like” effects as a child. And I know this was due to the medication due to being off for a number of years and having the same elect side effects resume after taking it as an adult. Downplaying what these substances are is equally as bad as fear-mongering, and in fact fear-mongering is what you’re doing when you make Meth out to be so much worse of a chemical
It dosnt even make sense. Methamphetamine is the molecule. As amphetamine is the molecule. I think they mean its one atom away, which again would be wrong.
You annoy me .
I just want to make a note that for people with ADHD/ADD who experience severe anxiety prior to any treatment, the use of stimulants can actually reduce, and in some cases, entirely treat the anxiety along with the ADHD/ADD.
Me :')
Yes.
Yeah, I feel calmer and way less frustration.
im not prescribed with adhd (yet) neither anxiety but im using focalin ir currently and the effects are great, i feel euphoric, focused, talkative, and happy… for like 3 hours. then i feel like a paranoid schitzo for the next 5 hours. I NEED to get a adhd script so i can take the proper drug for me
Vyvanse was a godsend for me, made me feel like a better me, tried adderall once and cause my blood pressure and heart rate to go way up, felt robotic and super anxious
This is useful! I needed such a simple video since I’ve just started my medication journey.
Love the way you explain things I'm on the autism spectrum aspergers and have an interlectual Disability and love learning about medications it is purely a hobby and interest and you have spoken well and I understood you very well 😊
Extremely informative 👏👏👏 A rare thing on TH-cam.
I remember there was a stimulate medication I tried once that gave me strong urges to pull my eye lashes. Got off of that one real quick once my mom realized. I’m now a vyvanse user and it’s great. I can tell if I’ve forgotten to take it. It makes such a difference, a good one for the record.
Adderall will does that to me.
Lol
I do have urges to pull my eye lashes it's been for more than 10years now and I'm not on any stimulant medication
Great content, thank you for sharing this! Where can I find part 2 for the non-stimulants?
I have a new video on my channel! Just posted it last week and it covers all of the meds
@@WhatintheADHD thank you, I will check it out! 💕
Hi! When are you going to do a video on the non stimulants? That would be great!
I will do this soon since you asked! I made this one back when I didn't have a lot of views, so I lost motivation to do it. but!! now I have a goal for my next video 😊
@@WhatintheADHD you did such a thorough job I thought you were a pharmacist giving information on the medication.
@@WhatintheADHD Do you take money from big pharma?
@@WhatintheADHD PLEASEEE DO THE VIDEO, THey are really well put together, and not plain and boring,especially the visuals! also much help thank you!
@@alanberkeley7282 Do you even know what ADHD is and the meds do? Does your brain give you dopamine? Do you not suffer from the condition? Yes? Good for you. Then mind your business and not that of others who actually do have issues and need medication like diabetics and people who need glasses :/
Stimulants helped me for like 10 days then I just was getting more scatterbrained
Great video. Still valuable today.
Thank you!
Vyvanse is now available in generic as Lisdexamphetamine. I stand by Concerta. It works the best for me. But I take the generic version, methylphenidate 54mg. I wouldn't mind trying focalin at some point.
Focalin is amazing!
amphetamines had a problem with building tolerance and became dependent with bad withdrawal and crash, focalin was better for me
Good video.
Just for anyone reading this, the IR Adderall also comes in 30 mg. Mine is generic, so maybe that's a consideration, as compared to name brand doses. It's an orange round double scored pill.
Your videos are extremely helpful. Thank you for the super clear info
Something I wanna say that I know I’ve found to be useful is to get genetic testing done to see what’s more likely to work, which more likely to result in side effects, how long it’ll last/how fast you’ll metabolize it, etc. I had one done once and it’s proved to be super useful for me and any doctors I go to. It helps show them what’s most likely to help you the most so you don’t have to jump from medicine to medicine trying to see what’ll work and/or what the best fit is. Of course this isn’t some fool proof thing. It shows what’s MOST LIKELY to happen, n’ such. Those results do NOT mean that’s just how it is and there’s nothing you can do. Just because the results say there may be a 60% chance you’ll experience side effects doesn’t mean you will experience them. It just means there’s a high probability. There’s still a 40% chance that you’ll be fine. It may seem obvious but sometimes it seems that people skim over these things and/or notice it but don’t process it and what it means. I’ve done that before too with other things in my life and, from I know, other’s do too. So I just wanted to call attention to it so that’ll it process. Sorry if it comes/came across as rude. Not intended.
Did I miss the part 2 nonstimulants ?
Aggh! No I must've gotten distracted and forgot about it 😅
@@WhatintheADHD oh man 😂
Concerta kicks in differently I think? Like 22% is intermediate and the rest is metabolized in the liver? Not sure about the SR and LR
Americans are lucky with the number of meds available. My country FDA keeps refusing anything other than ritalin and concerta
Even Dexamphetamine and Vyvanse? And yup, that sucks (mor ethan that, tbh) :( Maybe Wellbutrin/Bupropion could help a bit :o I for my part hope I can get a prescription of Vyvanse/Elvanse here in Germany and don't have to pay for it or I'd be screwed.
@@Chizuru94 vyvanse is only available in one exclusive hospital for an oil company workers, a friend of mine is on it and likes it very much. I hope you get the prescription because living with unmedicated ADHD is tough
Have you tried straight dextro before (dexedrine) or only adderall? Also adderall is a mixture of levo and dextro not just dextroamphetamine....
Vyvanse is also just dextroamphetamine, after it gets converted by your liver
Thank you so much, I was hyper active in my childhood till aboutl 7 yrs , I used to jump from heights , attacking cats hen, attacking my kindergarten friend , but my hyperactivity came down after 7 yrs , (approximate), then It come a stage of less activity , I still suffering from attention deficit even now , I can't study more than 10 min , After that I need rest, and I feel sleepy all the time when iam doing studying or some stuff like that, is it adhd , and I have socialphobia also ,
Good to know others became like this also after they got older and are the HI type. My impulsivity (aside from some coping I learned due to countless issues and trauma) is also still high. Sucks x-x But my social anxiety keeps me from doing most things. I miss the old me, but gosh, was it also tough and did I get into trouble a lot (I'm a woman, if that makes any difference, btw, since most women are diagnosed as inattentive).
It's funny how in Italy only methylphenidate is legal, and it seems to be the one with most side effects, lol. I wish at least lisdexamfetamine was legal but nope.
Focalin is 2x as expensive as Vyvanse. That was a shock.
What state or kinda insurance are u using? I live in Missouri on Medicare/Medicaid and here Vvanse is pretty expensive, the Focalin XR I'm prescribed costs $3.
actualy? im not prescribed yet but i cannot focus for shit at school so i started using dexmethalphenidate that he didnt use so he gave me 59 pills of 10mg IR pills for free. i asume dexmeth is cheaper than focalin but still. how much do these cost?
That Elvanse did not work but Adderal did work for u is valuable information, thank u. :)
Thank you… I tried adderall, liked it but didn’t last as long and I’m a RN so I work 12 1/2 hours… I tried Ritalin/ concerta… max dose Extended with a afternoon boost did absolutely nothing…: now on Focalin and I like it but it makes my heart race so bad and makes me anxious… which is so weird cause adderall didn’t do that it actually calmed me!! My doctor wanted to do vyvance but my insurance has all these requirements.. like failing therapy? Trying SSRIs which I did years prior and did nothing and I hated being on them from weight gain and sleeping a lot… I kinda don’t know what to do now. :/ I feel vyvance will be much smoother for me.. but the freaking insurance..
why is Dexmephylphenidate stronger than methylphenidate?
and mofafinil?
Adderall is a mix of amphibians
70 30 mix.
Amphibians 🐸
@@WhalesLoveSmash🤣🤣🤣🦎
Very helpful. Thanks
what does it mean that it inhibits reuptake??? Thanks.
It means that the good stuff stays floating around in your brain, instead of it going away quickly, keeping you feeling better for longer
I cannot find your part 2 of Non-Stimulants??
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Great video!! Thanks so much. What does of Adderall do you take? Is it Ir or Xr? I also take adderall for my Adhd and it works great!! I do take a low dose and breaks. Do you take weekends off? Thank You 😊
Where is the Part 2?
th-cam.com/video/IdPL2w4kolU/w-d-xo.html
I am so blessed to be in the UK and not have to pay for ADHD medication that barley works
Information for Methylphenidate (Ritalin and Concerta) mechanism of action: psychopharmacologyinstitute.com/publication/methylphenidate-for-adhd-mechanism-of-action-and-formulations-2194#:~:text=Methylphenidate%20is%20a%20CNS%20stimulant,explain%20its%20efficacy%20in%20ADHD.
A publication giving general information on lisdexamfetamine (Vyvanse): www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2873712/
The difference between Adderall and Ritalin: scholarspace.jccc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1021&context=honors_journal#:~:text=In%20reducing%20ADHD%20symptoms%2C%20the,the%20synaptic%20space%20%5B15%5D.
A publication giving information on the mechanism of action for amphetamine (Adderall) and how it relates to dopamine: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3753078/
The difference between methylphenidate (Concerta and Ritalin) and Dexmethylphenidate (Focalin): www.nami.org/About-Mental-Illness/Treatments/Mental-Health-Medications/Types-of-Medication/Methylphenidate-or-Dexmethylphenidate-(Concerta-R
General information on stimulant medication used for treating ADHD: www.webmd.com/add-adhd/adhd-stimulant-therapy
I'm on methylphenidate right now for about a month and I'm still very much so fidgeting. I'm generally ADD with the exception of fidgeting. Also my motivation is low, would Adderall be a better option, especially if not bothered my the fidgeting?
I'm feeling the same way
im not prescribed with adhd but im experianced with dexmethylphenidate (focalin) and also adderall. in my experience adderall seems like a way cleaner effective drug with less to no side effects. but with focalin they feel generally very similar but focalin has very very shit sideaffects. everyones different but adderall is godsend for me
Dosage can go as high as 60mg
with dexmethylphenidate all doses kinda feel the same, ive taken up to 125mg xr and 100mg ir and feels pretty identical to a normal 10-25mg dose shits weird
Thank you
In Australia they recently put Vyvanse on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, so we only need to pay around $8 whereas the full price is/was $98 or so.
I like Aussie Shiraz ABV 14%
@@apexxxx10 say what?
Methamphetamine and amphetamine aren’t exactly the same thing, BUT their effects are quite similar. Meth is just as Illegal as amphetamine and cocaine, and is also prescribed for ADHD, I have even known someone who was prescribed it for ADHD, and it is about as effective. I understand if you want to actually explain how they’re different, but it’s quite incorrect to just emphasize them as totally different, referring to meth as an illegal street drug and amphetamine as medicine, when they’re both extremely similar street drugs and medicine with the exact same legal status.
Here in Thailand Methamphetamine is an illegal street drug. Produced in jungle labs located in Myanmar (Burma) border area “Golden Triangle” where opium poppies once were cultivated.
Vyvanse is definitely monopolized and their patents do not have a shelf life
Vyvanse is for the country club kids
Level up
I'm on vyvanse lost 7 kg within 3 months on it even though I had knee surgery and was not moving. I was trying to lose weight for so long😮 this is the only thing that helped. I lost interest in snaking and binge eating. I eat mostly ounce a day for dinner. I'm used to doing intermittent fasting but i did struggle with cravings. Where as the first week of starting elvanse I started shedding the weight simply by not feeling hungry like before 🎉🎉 the other benefit I saw was I was able to sleep better at night with out going 6 times to the 🚻. As for my adhd it did not kick in whatsoever 😢after starting with 30mg I'm on 100 and still not helping my adhd nore. Do i feel any improvement in focusing and getting tasks done. Also, my anxiety is still very bad😢 Towards the evening, I feel the crash and my anxiety getting worse😢 I really don't know if I should switch to something else since I'm not responding to it. But on the other hand I'm really happy about the suppressed appetite and the 7kg I lost . Any tipps??
Ahh focalin
so many mistakes in one little video..
I was on 10mg adderall xr for about 5 years and just a few months ago was told there is an adderall shortage so they have to change my prescription to 10mg focalin xr. I've been on it for a couple months and found it to feel very similar to the adderall but it doesn't affect my appetite as much and I have alot better control of my impulses. I like it better.
adderall from my experiance is way cleaner with less side affects. they feel the same with effectiveness but focalin always gives me awful sideaffects, that could be because i abuse the shit n take way to much but even when i take it properly i end up still feeling like shit, seems like the dose doesnt really matter because i end up getting the same hangover that i get from 10mg all the way up to 120mg