"If you are innocent, then you have nothing to fear." Orders the family to be executed ten seconds later. Damn, even by villain standards, that's vile.
@@stephj505 I think even villians like Gaston, Hans, Gothel, Jafar, and even Ratcliffe (spell check) would be taken back and disgusted by Frollo's ruthlessness
+Chimelu Ani In reality, a arrow from a longbow would easily penetrate plate armour. Plate-armour was only used to glance swords off of your body, not to actually defend it against a full sword blow and even if it did you would have broken bones.
A normal arrow from longbow could not penetrate a knights armor. And sword could definitley not, that is why they invented warhammer and mace, to defeat the plate armor. Because if it didnt penetrate the armor there would be serious damage to the body. You could hope to pierce the sword or arrow throu the unprotected parts of the armor, but straight up hitting the armor would only glance of.
Phoebus: _"With all due respect, sir, I was not trained to murder the innocent!"_ Frollo: _"But you _*_were_*_ trained to _*_follow orders!"_* Phoebus: Snuffs out the torch in utter defiance. Showing even as individuals, soldiers still have somewhat of a moral compass, and don't always blindly follow orders regardless of how morally or ethically ambiguous they are.
in the junior novel, the dialogue goes like this Phoebus: "With all due respect, sir, I was not trained to murder the innocent!" Frollo: "But you were trained to follow orders!" Phoebus "Not the orders from a madman!" (Extinguishes the torch in a rainbarrel). Frollo: "Insolent Coward!, i'll do it myself!"
The writers knew they were writing uphill to get the crowd to deal with the girl not falling in love with the protagonist. They had to make this guy likeable, and goddamn, they did it. Thumbs up.
How does Frollo not see the irony in gradually offering 30 pieces of silver as a bribe? Even the gypsies expressions show that they understood that reference....
LadyRuelleyn One of Jesus disciples Judas Iscariot betrayed him to his death for 30 pieces of silver. Given the cultural influence of the Catholic Church in Medieval France, even the gypsies would have heard the story and understood the reference.
Phoebus did a brave and noble thing. Not only jumping into danger to save that family, but also for standing up to Frollo by refusing to set the mill on fire. Many of the worst atrocities in history have happened because people just followed orders even when they knew they were wrong and never stood up against evil.
I mean who can really blame them for following those kind of orders. If they don't, the punishments they are given will be devastating. And might even harm their own families.
@@Skemati This is what distinguishes heroes from the others. Heroes will put saving someone above their own well being. This is not an easy thing to do when the time comes for one to do it. It can also be even more complicated when a heroic decision could also affect friends and family due to repercussions.
"Insolent coward!" Better a coward than a murderer, that's what I say EDIT: For the record, yes, I understand he's not really a coward, I just didn't use the right words, so enough pointing it out please.
The thing that makes Frollo so scary is that he’s not supernatural like many other villains. He is an ordinary man gone mad with power, and someone like him is very much possible in the real world. A person using religion as a scapegoat to justify their actions (that already exists) and placed in a position of high authority and power while wielding it arbitrarily against people they don’t like… A real-life Frollo isn’t a fairytale but a real possibility (if not already present but biding their time).
There was a much possible man like frollo in reality, Adolf Hitler only he was a politician. The leader of the Nazi party. He was an ordinary man gone mad with power too brought about by his hatred for jews blaming for Germany's problems.
♪ All the world is a stage, And everyone has their part. But how as I to know Which way the story'd go? How I was to know you'd break... You'd break my heart? ♫
@ Do you remember the Simpsons? There was a black cat that was called Snowball and also Snowball 2 so I guess Frollo's horse is named after the Simpson's family cat
Phoebus: "Are you feeling alright?" *Flashback* Frollo: "Like FIRE! HELLFIRE! This FIRE in my skin! This BURNING...desire, is turning me to SIN!" *End of Flashback* Frollo: "I had a little...trouble, with the fireplace"
I had already liked Captain Phoebus as a character in the beginning of the movie, but this scene officially made him my favorite HoND character. He knew saving the family was more than likely to end in his death and yet he did it anyway. And when he was about to be executed he was unafraid and at peace knowing he did what was morally right in a time of utter chaos and madness. 100% respect the character. I also loved this movie growing up for the plot and music. But as an adult, I love it even more solely because the messags and dark imagery used are both much bolder and intriguing than most Disney films today even dare to be.
I understand that this is a intense part of the movie and one of the greatest showings of Phoebus character. but can we just take a moment to talk about how Phoebus just suddenly lost all his armor underwater? 3:10
I just realized something. When Frollo is offering silver to the gypsies, he starts with 10 pieces, then raises it to 20. 10+20=30. As in the thirty pieces of silver offered to Judas to betray Christ. He's literally trying to find a Judas in the crowd.
As a Judge of the Church, Frollo had so much power that no one dared to stand up to him. He could do whatever he wanted and justify it with the excuse that he was doing the bidding of the Lord, and that anyone who defied him was a traitorous heretic who needed to be made example of.
0:55 - MOST IMPORTANT LINE IN THE MOVIE! "Frollo has gone mad, he has never harmed anyone" Either this reflects how good Frollo has been at lying, or it shows that he has actually been quite a decent, if stern, guy in the preceeding years, and limited himself to merely locking people up. Either way it reflects that Frollo was apparently seen in quite a positive light throughout Paris.
+DarkTider I don't think she's talking about Frollo; I think she's talking about the Miller. She says, "The poor miller, he's never harmed anyone", and then the man says "Frollo's gone mad".
+WitchVine Even if Frollo went mad after arresting every potential harbourer of gipsies, that would still mean he had a good public reputation amongst the Parisians.
In the book he was originally a devout and holy man. His mind is slowly warped and troubled by thinking that demons are twisting his thoughts due to lust. He's driven mad by the desire to be pure, pious and devout. Everything he does, be it evil to us, he thinks he is doing the right thing and acting in the name of God.
Frollo is implied to be the Minister of Justice for Paris, meaning he's the chief of police and head of Paris' military garrison which is made up of mercenaries and local militia, and given that Phebious mentions the Hundred Years War (I was summed from the wars to capture fortune tellers and palm readers) the time period the film takes place in is likely between 1337 and 1428 (when Joan of Arc rose to prominence) and he's been taking advantage of the instability of the French Monarchy, and the fact that many of major Noble Houses were fighting a civil war among themselves and a war against England, to expand his own power base, since the King was incapacitated and many Knights that made up the nobility had been killed in the wars
"With all due respect sir, I was never trained to murder the innocent." "But you WERE trained to follow orders." What Phoebus could have said there was this: "By not murdering the innocent, I am following God's own orders. Last I checked, He is above all of us. That includes you, sir."
I had a novelization of this movie (not the original by Victor Hugo, but a Disney Books version), and I remember it had Phoebus respond, "Not the orders of a madman" while putting the torch out.
"Insolent coward!" Meaning that Frollo spitefully mocked Phoebus' honor, mortal compass and unwillingess to take the innocent life... The first two of which he lacks completely and is capable to commit the third with 100%.
Stormbringer Me 2. Also, Maleficent is a fairy, not sorceress. Frollo hates witches (as shown by burning Esmeralda at stake). No one has said that he hates fairies. As Mistress of All Evil, Maleficent could easily team up with Frollo and both could go to Hades and ask for resurrection. With that, THoND/Sleeping Beauty/Hercules spin-off would begin. Do you guys think it’s a good idea?
Originally, after Frollo says "but you were trained to follow orders", Phoebus was going to reply with "I was not trained to follow the orders of a madman" and then douse the torch, however the filmmakers felt it would be much stronger to just have Phoebus douse the torch without saying anything.
This was truly a time of corruption. All someone had to do was claim they were acting under the authority of the church, and they could get away with anything. Despicable.
Lisa Plambeck Well most religious text was written in Latin and only the educated and higher-ups could read Latin, so yeah. They could just get away with saying anything because what does anyone else know?
I love it when the villagers say "poor miller he's never harmed anyone" "Frollo's gone mad" I also love Phoebus as he was told to burn the house but he put the torch in water instead and saved the miller and his family.
@@christinebugeja4447 And he is crazy. He didn't even care about inocent childeren and a baby when he burned down the house. God must be very angry at Frollo for do so much cruel sins and using his name at do evil actions.
He cheated on his fiancé with an underage girl (Esmeralda), and he also let her die by implying she bewitched him into being with her all because he didn’t want it let out that he cheated in the first place, the Disney adaptation is a WHOLE lot better 😅
This is actually one of my favorite songs on the album. Just the way at the very end as the fire is scattered throughout Paris, and the choir in the background truly is powerful! God, I love this movie ❤️
Phoebus is a really cool guy. A soldier who takes orders, but he knows that his duty is to defend the people of France, rather than blindly follow whatever instructions his superior gives him.
That moment when the choir erupts over the image of Paris burning will stay with me forever. One of the most beautifully haunting scenes I’ve seen in a Disney movie
I just LOVE how at 3:26 the bells are ringing in the background as the dialogue commences. Frollo is trying to think how Esmerelda could've possibly escaped, and then it hits him...
Captain Phoebus was nothing but kind and loyal to Frollo, and that is how Frollo treated him in the end, just shows you how messed up Frollo actually was.Doesn't the Bible say "Thou shall not kill", so Frollo was already going against his religion, so he should already be fearful of going to hellfire.
Joshua Lowe Yet when Phoebus says their innocent he tells him But you where train to follow orders meaning he knew they were innocent but still tried to kill them.
Joshua Lowe This wasn’t even about him killing what he thought was evil people anymore.. this was just about him wanting Esmeralda bc he had such a huge crush and an unhealthy attachment with her.
Cain Jones He would commit sin by doing so by cruelty, not by taking his life per se. Thou shall not kill is more complex than simply not killing anyone for any reason, you can kill someone with words too and is a sin doing so.
1:40 And he held the torch That cracked like the Gypsy's voice (Kyrie Eleison) And he knew this was the moment He must make a choice... God help the outcasts Or nobody will!
During Notre-Dame fire, when I saw the towers of the Cathedral getting red-coloured, I immediately remembered that they were that very same colour while Paris was burning in this movie
Dee Nagara This movie was 23 years ago. Things were different back then. But apparently the *Hell fire* scene did bother a lot of parents bc they obviously knew what that was about.
@@tributeandmusicvideocenter1758 the movie probably take place in the 100 years war ( phoebus do mention it ) it explain why the king isn't here contrary to the novel .
In the novel, Frollo twisted the truth to King Louis XI, who was in his deathbed, and granted Frollo permission. The church had complete control over politics at that time, so it’s very believable that Frollo would be 100% backed up by the royal family.
In the book the King was backing him. In the film, more like he's away leading the armies. France was fighting on all sides, against the English, the HRE, the Italian States, the Swiss and the Portuguese. An army of French knights even went east to take part in the wars against the Ottoman Turks.
I'm glad I watched this scene, I was in school and was friends with bad people and they told me to bash this other kid to earn their trust and I just thought of Phoebus in this scene and just couldn't do it. I was bullied by them after that and ruined my grade 5 years. Now looking back, it was my best honor.
Courier: You highness! Your highness! An urgent message from Paris. Louis XI: Ah, it must the weekly report. I left Minister Frollo in charge. One of the finest ones there is. If anyone keeps Paris in tight control it's him. Now, lets see... The Message: My dearest King! A gypsy got away and the gates of Hell opened into my fireplace. Fear not, immediate actions have been taken! Whole of Paris is now cleansed by holy fire. A new better world will soon rise! God Wills It! Yours truly, *Minister Claude Frollo* Louis: XI: .....da fuck?
In my opinion, the scene where we see all the fires in Paris is the scariest part of the entire movie. It shows how crazy and deluded that Frollo has become to the point where he literally burns down the city in order to get Esmerelda and the other gypsies.
One wonders what the King of France would've made of it all when he got back from campaign if Frollo hadn't taken his tumble. "So...Frollo. In my absence, you decided to go on a purge, attempted to execute the favourite I sent back to help enforce my peace, declared war on Holy Mother Church, and practically BURNT. THE CAPITAL. TO ASH. ALLLL because you wanted to bed a gypsy?!"
@@CrystalKingdomGeneral4942 Probably fighting in the war Phoebus was fighting. Not to mention how slow communication was back then so that could’ve been a factor.
@@TandaSandaBanda Nonetheless, Frollo was committing numerous illegal actions for OVER 20 YEARS. He would've been executed LONG before it got this bad.
@@CrystalKingdomGeneral4942 Must be a testament to how manipulative and deceitful he was. But yeah, arson alone in the Middle Ages was SUPER illegal. Not to mention the lack of a court. What, did he just expel the lot himself? Damn. Borderline dictatorial.
@@Jothomas214 but here's the thing: the fire that Frollo used to burn down the house and the city of Paris wasn't regular fire. It was HELLfire. Fire from HELL
Apparently there was a line cut. When Frollo says "But you were trained to follow orders", Phoebus was originally supposed to reply "Not the orders of a mad man!". Why that line was cut, I'll never know
Imagine going to the bathroom and missing out on this 4 minutes. You’d have missed so much plot points! It’s really incredible how much story they can fit into that timeframe. It’s a testament to the incredible writing editing. The story group was at the top of their game.
Hooray for Phoebus, he saved the miller’s family from the windmill blaze. 👏🏻 It isn’t funny when 👨🏻⚖️ Frollo burns down the windmill that the miller works at with his relatives. 👍🏻 if you seriously agree.
Nope. I think if Louis XI of France was such an important character in this adaption, he would order Frollo to stop his misconduct and demand what is going on. And if Louis XI had similar character traits the same as the Archdeacon of Notre Dame, he would be furious at his actions of turning the whole city upside down for something so petty in finding one Romani person.
Watching this film when I was 7 or 8 was just downright creepy and I couldn’t sleep for WEEKS. Watching it now I look at it as a phenomenal masterpiece that addresses real issues and tears ur heartstrings. Just me?
Frollo: You can kill literally everyone in Paris, but you will NOT lay a finger on my horse
And maybe all of France.
But not the king.
I mean as much as a prick frollo was, at least he did care about his horse.
Ya the horse should not be killed
"In a lifetime of evil, at least he didn't add animal cruelty to the list."- Sokka, Avatar: The Last Airbender.
This is hands down the darkest Disney movie I've ever seen.
IceSmash // ikr! I love it!!
After The Black Cauldron of course
If it wasn’t for the gargoyles, this would be even darker.
Nope, not much
Princess and the frog
Even though their freedom was on the line, they wouldn't sell Esmeralda out. :(
That apart of their code of honor. They rarely would betray their own people.
Artemis Beasty Whoa.
Or perhaps... They just REALLY didn't know where she was?
Ally 123 That could be it.
Artemis Beasty I'm a gypsy and no matter what we never betray each other
''I had a little trouble with the fireplace.'' Ahahahahaha!!!
+Conrad Marsh Had a little trouble with handling my wild feelings and
+Lara Tan uh I end up mas.... not what that doesn't matter find the dam gypsy girl
I see
Shadow DemonX54 lol
I had a little trouble with my wet dreams.
"If you are innocent, then you have nothing to fear."
Orders the family to be executed ten seconds later.
Damn, even by villain standards, that's vile.
Despite being Satan in a green witches body, I'm sure even Maleficent would be appalled by frollo to some extent.
@@stephj505
I think you did this comment on a lot of post didn't you ?
@@stephj505, or impressed.
That guy was just a real cruel & ruthless asshole.
@@stephj505 I think even villians like Gaston, Hans, Gothel, Jafar, and even Ratcliffe (spell check) would be taken back and disgusted by Frollo's ruthlessness
I love how the armor in all movies never does anything
+Chimelu Ani Same here LOL
+Chimelu Ani In reality, a arrow from a longbow would easily penetrate plate armour. Plate-armour was only used to glance swords off of your body, not to actually defend it against a full sword blow and even if it did you would have broken bones.
That's because movies work on Hollywood myths
A normal arrow from longbow could not penetrate a knights armor. And sword could definitley not, that is why they invented warhammer and mace, to defeat the plate armor. Because if it didnt penetrate the armor there would be serious damage to the body. You could hope to pierce the sword or arrow throu the unprotected parts of the armor, but straight up hitting the armor would only glance of.
unless it's plot armor.
Phoebus: _"With all due respect, sir, I was not trained to murder the innocent!"_
Frollo: _"But you _*_were_*_ trained to _*_follow orders!"_*
Phoebus: Snuffs out the torch in utter defiance.
Showing even as individuals, soldiers still have somewhat of a moral compass, and don't always blindly follow orders regardless of how morally or ethically ambiguous they are.
Boss Isaac this just came up while I was reading this comment nice timing eh?
+Aryll -nya
Pretty convenient, I'd say.
And you see, how this ends for them and;
One more senseless death...
in the junior novel, the dialogue goes like this
Phoebus: "With all due respect, sir, I was not trained to murder the innocent!"
Frollo: "But you were trained to follow orders!"
Phoebus "Not the orders from a madman!" (Extinguishes the torch in a rainbarrel).
Frollo: "Insolent Coward!, i'll do it myself!"
Don't follow orders your whole life when you know they're wrong...THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! That's what Phoebus knew here
537 years later, he did it again
He has done his revenge in Paris, better than the Germans did
lol
Too late dude, too late
Dino-MYT G A M I N G don’t you mean too soon?
It’s been so long since Norte Dame burned...
The writers knew they were writing uphill to get the crowd to deal with the girl not falling in love with the protagonist. They had to make this guy likeable, and goddamn, they did it. Thumbs up.
I do believe you misunderstand what the word 'protagonist' means.
The original Phoebus was a villain, while in the 1986 Australian one, he redeems himself in the end.
@@redoctober3777They were referring to Quasimodo.
I agree....this may not be my favorite disney movie to WATCH.... but it IS ranked as my top disney movie
@@redoctober3777It means “main character in a fictional context”.
How does Frollo not see the irony in gradually offering 30 pieces of silver as a bribe? Even the gypsies expressions show that they understood that reference....
Tafami I don't understand the reference. What is it? :0
LadyRuelleyn One of Jesus disciples Judas Iscariot betrayed him to his death for 30 pieces of silver. Given the cultural influence of the Catholic Church in Medieval France, even the gypsies would have heard the story and understood the reference.
And then in _Shrek_, Farquaad's captain of the guard offers 20 pieces of silver for a witch, so... is that a reference to this movie?
Whoah. That is freaking brilliant. Thanks for pointing it out!
Tafami I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.
Phoebus did a brave and noble thing. Not only jumping into danger to save that family, but also for standing up to Frollo by refusing to set the mill on fire. Many of the worst atrocities in history have happened because people just followed orders even when they knew they were wrong and never stood up against evil.
He had ethics.
I mean who can really blame them for following those kind of orders. If they don't, the punishments they are given will be devastating. And might even harm their own families.
@@Skemati This is what distinguishes heroes from the others. Heroes will put saving someone above their own well being. This is not an easy thing to do when the time comes for one to do it.
It can also be even more complicated when a heroic decision could also affect friends and family due to repercussions.
Or worse, they just follow orders that are evil, then a man becomes the evil he swore to oppress.
@@THOMASINTHE1980S and more importantly, balls.
"Insolent coward!"
Better a coward than a murderer, that's what I say
EDIT: For the record, yes, I understand he's not really a coward, I just didn't use the right words, so enough pointing it out please.
periodt!
Amen to that
yes exactly
Killing innocent people is the cowards way.
Frollo is the true insolent coward, wanting to kill innocent people and a certain race he hates(Gypsies)
Frollo: "I had a little trouble with the fireplace.."
Phoebus thought at 0:13: He was the one who was shouting in the middle of the night..!!!
Rotflmao!! 😂
I think they wanted to report about Esmeralda's escape at the morning, but changed their minds to get some sleep
Phoebus was a pretty cool guy.
wesleyfilms yeah because in the book he was a rapist.
pinkflower7783 °~°
Yeah I knew that the moment he first appeared in the movie
wesleyfilms 4 Real my dude
What does the book have to do with the film? Lmao. They are not telling the same story
The thing that makes Frollo so scary is that he’s not supernatural like many other villains. He is an ordinary man gone mad with power, and someone like him is very much possible in the real world.
A person using religion as a scapegoat to justify their actions (that already exists) and placed in a position of high authority and power while wielding it arbitrarily against people they don’t like…
A real-life Frollo isn’t a fairytale but a real possibility (if not already present but biding their time).
@Heaven I'm afraid he is. But only in his query mind
That's right - You could put him in Game of Thrones and he would still be scary.
@Heaven did you miss his entire personality ?
There was a much possible man like frollo in reality, Adolf Hitler only he was a politician. The leader of the Nazi party. He was an ordinary man gone mad with power too brought about by his hatred for jews blaming for Germany's problems.
he is not mad with power. he is mad with religious zealothry
No one wanted this to become reality. :(
♪ All the world is a stage,
And everyone has their part.
But how as I to know
Which way the story'd go?
How I was to know you'd break...
You'd break my heart? ♫
David Debono I never knew Frollo’s vengeful spirit would do it 537 years after he died in this video. The revenge of Frollo!
Frollo and Hitler would be best friends although Hitler was an Atheist.
Hitler and frollo are monsters
3:38 Frollo will burn the notre dame... it is down
2:40
"Get him, and don't get my horse!"
Those were some damn good archers. Delivered such a ridiculous request on a moment's notice.
don't get my hore... his horse have the name SNOWBALL hahah stuppid for a black horse
Well, at least he cares for animals, right?
Even Hitler cared for his dog.
@ Do you remember the Simpsons? There was a black cat that was called Snowball and also Snowball 2 so I guess Frollo's horse is named after the Simpson's family cat
"Your orders sir?"
"Find the gypsy girl."
*ramapges everywhere*
great way the start the morning eh?
BURN IT TO THE GROUND !!!!
I read somewhere here that Frollo's BLACK horse is called Snowball. That's just fucking hilarious.
@@NoirChat138 BURN THIS VILLAGE!!!
@@skorpionthunder sombody went too far, and now Notre Dame is on fire
Well, no more Harvesting Season for the miller
Phoebus: "Are you feeling alright?"
*Flashback*
Frollo: "Like FIRE! HELLFIRE! This FIRE in my skin! This BURNING...desire, is turning me to SIN!"
*End of Flashback*
Frollo: "I had a little...trouble, with the fireplace"
Yeah Frollo went MAD that night!
@@gibbs615Nah someone dropped some grass down the chimney and the prank went very wrong.
@@davidcarreira1453 Very funny
The scene of Paris burning with the chrous in the background gives me chills
Kyrie eleison
Seriously!! Same!
Frollo is a Traitor, he’s Evil to kill Esmeralda and all the innocent people about her and the Gypsies, because it was his revenge
@@joeycoburn.7335 these is when we're facing the coronavirus in 2020!!!
@@henzcarltupas328henzcarltu2 I know it’s crazy.
I had already liked Captain Phoebus as a character in the beginning of the movie, but this scene officially made him my favorite HoND character. He knew saving the family was more than likely to end in his death and yet he did it anyway. And when he was about to be executed he was unafraid and at peace knowing he did what was morally right in a time of utter chaos and madness. 100% respect the character. I also loved this movie growing up for the plot and music. But as an adult, I love it even more solely because the messags and dark imagery used are both much bolder and intriguing than most Disney films today even dare to be.
I understand that this is a intense part of the movie and one of the greatest showings of Phoebus character.
but can we just take a moment to talk about how Phoebus just suddenly lost all his armor underwater? 3:10
Chania Jordan he probably took it off to keep from drowning quicker in his unconscious state
Esmeralda did that
Chania Jordan weird
Chania Jordan // he probably tried to take it off so he wouldn’t drown
Wow, surprised that I never thought of that.
10 pieces of silver plus 20 equals to 30, the amount of money Judas was offered to betray Jesus. Those references...
Woah 😳 🤯
As well as Esmeralda using the sling & rock
DUDE!!
I never caught that reference!!!
Man the Disney team did a damn great job with the writing in this movie!
Lord Farquade voice: "Look look! The simp has fallen in love with the E Girl!"
0:10- Phoebus: Are you feeling alright?
Frollo: I had a little trouble with the fireplace....
Random Soldier: And a large stage number.
I just realized something. When Frollo is offering silver to the gypsies, he starts with 10 pieces, then raises it to 20. 10+20=30. As in the thirty pieces of silver offered to Judas to betray Christ. He's literally trying to find a Judas in the crowd.
Whoa... that is insane.
Maybe I'm just crazy, but this seems like a ridiculous amount of effort to go through just because your libido is aroused by one pretty girl, Frollo.
***** Oh, good.
Coral Roper It had more to do with the fact that Frollo believed his eternal salvation was on the line.
+JJdaPK and even more with that she openly ridiculed him in front of the whole town. That hurt his feelings!
As a Judge of the Church, Frollo had so much power that no one dared to stand up to him. He could do whatever he wanted and justify it with the excuse that he was doing the bidding of the Lord, and that anyone who defied him was a traitorous heretic who needed to be made example of.
Well, powerful kings and people, back in the dark ages and renaissance, were as twisted and evil as Frollo.
I love the clash between the two characters. The extremist Frollo, and the moral guided Phoebus.
Fun Fact: Phoebus was originally meant to say "Not the orders of a mad man." when he was going to douse the torch.
And I wouldn't blame him in the slightest for saying that.
Source: dude, trust me
I had a picture book adaptation of the movie back in the day, they had Phoebus say that line when he douses the flame.
@@stephj505Frollo’s not a “madman”.
0:55 - MOST IMPORTANT LINE IN THE MOVIE!
"Frollo has gone mad, he has never harmed anyone"
Either this reflects how good Frollo has been at lying, or it shows that he has actually been quite a decent, if stern, guy in the preceeding years, and limited himself to merely locking people up. Either way it reflects that Frollo was apparently seen in quite a positive light throughout Paris.
+DarkTider I don't think she's talking about Frollo; I think she's talking about the Miller. She says, "The poor miller, he's never harmed anyone", and then the man says "Frollo's gone mad".
+WitchVine Even if Frollo went mad after arresting every potential harbourer of gipsies, that would still mean he had a good public reputation amongst the Parisians.
In the book he was originally a devout and holy man. His mind is slowly warped and troubled by thinking that demons are twisting his thoughts due to lust. He's driven mad by the desire to be pure, pious and devout. Everything he does, be it evil to us, he thinks he is doing the right thing and acting in the name of God.
Frollo is implied to be the Minister of Justice for Paris, meaning he's the chief of police and head of Paris' military garrison which is made up of mercenaries and local militia, and given that Phebious mentions the Hundred Years War (I was summed from the wars to capture fortune tellers and palm readers) the time period the film takes place in is likely between 1337 and 1428 (when Joan of Arc rose to prominence) and he's been taking advantage of the instability of the French Monarchy, and the fact that many of major Noble Houses were fighting a civil war among themselves and a war against England, to expand his own power base, since the King was incapacitated and many Knights that made up the nobility had been killed in the wars
He was ALWAYS A MADMAN!!!
That music is amazing....
"With all due respect sir, I was never trained to murder the innocent."
"But you WERE trained to follow orders."
What Phoebus could have said there was this:
"By not murdering the innocent, I am following God's own orders. Last I checked, He is above all of us. That includes you, sir."
That is a huge clap back.
Oooh, I'm not sure Frollo would've responded well to that haha
I believe, in the novelization of the movie, Phoebus’s reply was “Not the orders of a madman!”
@@karen8624it is the junior novel.
I had a novelization of this movie (not the original by Victor Hugo, but a Disney Books version), and I remember it had Phoebus respond, "Not the orders of a madman" while putting the torch out.
Captain Phoebus is no coward. Frollo is
Phoebus is a rebel, not a coward. Just because he refused to burn the home does not mean he is cowardly. Rather, he is rebellious.
"Insolent coward!"
Meaning that Frollo spitefully mocked Phoebus' honor, mortal compass and unwillingess to take the innocent life... The first two of which he lacks completely and is capable to commit the third with 100%.
Phoebus is a hero. He saved a Miller & his family when frollo set their home ablaze.
@@paulmacartney8266 true
@@tuomaspolla3814 Oletko Suomesta? Tein videon ihanasta maastasi. Siinä on pikkukuva, joka näyttää linnoitulta.
3:14 That plan is both awesome and terrifying. Frollo is both an asshole and an awesome vilain.
I agree
Exactly
"If what you say is true and you're innocent you have nothing to fear"
3 seconds later
"Burn it"
Phoney. What!?
Sounds like real life
I’m hearing a lot of Sylvanas from the “Burn it!” line.
Even Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget would be disgusted.
Maleficent: "I am the mistress of Evil."
Frollo: "I am the Evil himself."
So Maleficent will be Frollo's mistress in hell ? I ship it .
Stormbringer Me 2. Also, Maleficent is a fairy, not sorceress. Frollo hates witches (as shown by burning Esmeralda at stake). No one has said that he hates fairies. As Mistress of All Evil, Maleficent could easily team up with Frollo and both could go to Hades and ask for resurrection. With that, THoND/Sleeping Beauty/Hercules spin-off would begin. Do you guys think it’s a good idea?
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Yes it is .
Chernabog: I'm the devil himself
Despite being Satan in a green witches body oh, I'm sure even Maleficent would be appalled by frollo to some extent.
I guess this comment section is empty because everyone is speechless about frollo’s actions (as of 8/14/2021 now its not)
Or TH-cam kids,
He came back from hell just to do it again, the absolute madman
Yeah. 537 years later!
So he tries to burn the whole city to catch one person!
He horny
@@Femboi210 He's disgusting-
Because he got horny.
@@theofficalsilentraven no he's not
@@Femboi210 TItan decide to destroy a city because he was rejected by his crush
You know what I just noticed? Frollo’s eyes are slightly reddened when he’s giving orders
Taylor Elliott are you suggesting that frollo was high on weed when he burned down paris XD
emberfrost Bewitched by the devil’s lettuce no doubt. 😂
Taylor Elliott I noticed that a few minutes ago. 0:16
Probably due to insomnia.. he had some, ehm... issues with the fireplace the previous night
Probably due to insomnia.. he had some, ehm, problems with the fireplace the night before
I love how he rubs his head in the beginning and says "I had trouble with the fire" GOLD 😂
He couldn't handle it
Originally, after Frollo says "but you were trained to follow orders", Phoebus was going to reply with "I was not trained to follow the orders of a madman" and then douse the torch, however the filmmakers felt it would be much stronger to just have Phoebus douse the torch without saying anything.
They said the original line of the junior novel.
This was truly a time of corruption. All someone had to do was claim they were acting under the authority of the church, and they could get away with anything. Despicable.
Lisa Plambeck Well most religious text was written in Latin and only the educated and higher-ups could read Latin, so yeah. They could just get away with saying anything because what does anyone else know?
What kind of shit are you talking? Anyone with a decent knowledge of history would understand that is not the case.
Lisa Plambeck Well people just need to claim offence now and they can do anything they want, so times are still corrupt as Hell.
Wtf ?
Text in Vulgar ?? Allegories in Miniatures, statues, stained glasses ? Even if people were illiterated they weren't dummy...
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Not the windmill. What did the windmill ever do to you, Frollo?
The sentence for arson.
DEATH!
That windmill had a wife and 2 kids
Jim Ross: BAH GAWD, FROLLO HAS SET FIRE TO THAT WINDMILL!!! THAT WINDMILL HAD A FAMILY, DAMNIT!!!!!!
Probably tried to seduce him.
Gave him cancer maybe
I love it when the villagers say "poor miller he's never harmed anyone" "Frollo's gone mad" I also love Phoebus as he was told to burn the house but he put the torch in water instead and saved the miller and his family.
Phoebus was truly a good guy hero man!
Fun fact: Phobeous originally say : Not the orders of a madman
@@queenarialya 1:39-1:42 not to mention they include the junior novel.
Frollo is the most evil villain in Disney movies!
The most nastiest Disney villain of all time
There's millennial kids who still think Hans from frozen is the evilest ahhaha
@@gatorcroc7212 Hans is not even close to be evil like Frollo.
I know right! Frollo is really so cruel!
@@christinebugeja4447 And he is crazy. He didn't even care about inocent childeren and a baby when he burned down the house. God must be very angry at Frollo for do so much cruel sins and using his name at do evil actions.
Phoebus is actually a decent human being in this adaptation unlike his book counter part🤣
It was a time when Disney could rewrite a classic and still make it good.
He cheated on his fiancé with an underage girl (Esmeralda), and he also let her die by implying she bewitched him into being with her all because he didn’t want it let out that he cheated in the first place, the Disney adaptation is a WHOLE lot better 😅
Phoebus is pure evil.
Wouldn't Christopher Lee have been a great Frollo for a live-action rendition of this movie!?!?!
Enigmatic Varan There's Charles Dance
Enigmatic Varan agreed :'( if only
Or Alan Rickman..if here were here☹️
+Belle 2904 Agree I always found Alan Rickman voice rivaled that of Tony Jay
If he was alive Alan Rickman would had been perfect. But I would also consider Patrick Stewart as well.
This is actually one of my favorite songs on the album. Just the way at the very end as the fire is scattered throughout Paris, and the choir in the background truly is powerful! God, I love this movie ❤️
Phoebus is a really cool guy. A soldier who takes orders, but he knows that his duty is to defend the people of France, rather than blindly follow whatever instructions his superior gives him.
He's a good guy first and a soldier second.
@@gibbs615He’s a villain, the only good guy around here is Frollo.
@@conrad5673 Be quiet🙄✋🏿
@@gibbs615 Well, I’m telling the truth.
@@conrad5673 Shut up fool🙄
Tony Jay made a great voice actor. May he Rest In Peace.
Tony Jay Was a great actor and a good singer too 1996 was a great year for him
Frollo: "Insolent coward!"
Surely a coward wouldn't enter a burning house to save a family.
Frollo: Poster Boy of Projection
That moment when the choir erupts over the image of Paris burning will stay with me forever. One of the most beautifully haunting scenes I’ve seen in a Disney movie
I just LOVE how at 3:26 the bells are ringing in the background as the dialogue commences. Frollo is trying to think how Esmerelda could've possibly escaped, and then it hits him...
Best Disney film, hands down. Nothing could ever beat the music, characters, and overall dark theme and tone from this movie.
Captain Phoebus was nothing but kind and loyal to Frollo, and that is how Frollo treated him in the end, just shows you how messed up Frollo actually was.Doesn't the Bible say "Thou shall not kill", so Frollo was already going against his religion, so he should already be fearful of going to hellfire.
Cain Jones Frollo Thought killing was ok because he believes he was killing "EVIL" people.
Joshua Lowe Yet when Phoebus says their innocent he tells him But you where train to follow orders meaning he knew they were innocent but still tried to kill them.
Red Drago He ACTUALLY believed those people were *GUILTY*. THAT'S why Frollo called them *TRAITORS*.
Joshua Lowe This wasn’t even about him killing what he thought was evil people anymore.. this was just about him wanting Esmeralda bc he had such a huge crush and an unhealthy attachment with her.
Cain Jones He would commit sin by doing so by cruelty, not by taking his life per se. Thou shall not kill is more complex than simply not killing anyone for any reason, you can kill someone with words too and is a sin doing so.
"And don't hit my horse!"
Old Frollo loves his animals. What a sweetheart.
Actually, horses were expensive those days.
3:22 for those who don't know, "kyrie eleison" (the singing in the background) is ancient greek for "have mercy on us"
Ancient latin
1:40
And he held the torch
That cracked like the Gypsy's voice
(Kyrie Eleison)
And he knew this was the moment
He must make a choice...
God help the outcasts
Or nobody will!
Tailikku1 ♡♡♡♡
FUCK YEAH
Are you disobeying a direct order, captain?
I don't believe it... She's bewitched you, too!
You'll throw away a promising career!
@@brannythefrenchie8847 Captain! Carry out the order!
Fool! Traitor! Gypsy's pawn! You're relieved of your patrol.
Still one of the greatest Disney movies made in the 90’s
I’m more of a Aladdin, Hercules and Mulan fan
Go Phoebus!!! YOU ROCK!!!!!!!
During Notre-Dame fire, when I saw the towers of the Cathedral getting red-coloured, I immediately remembered that they were that very same colour while Paris was burning in this movie
God, I can't look at that scene the same now without thinking about that 😔
At 3:15, reminds me of what happened today at Paris, the beautiful Notre Dame Cathedral especially! #foreshadowing
Dee Nagara predictive programming
Dee Nagara This movie was 23 years ago. Things were different back then. But apparently the *Hell fire* scene did bother a lot of parents bc they obviously knew what that was about.
It’s almost as if Disney knew and was trying to warn us that last week’s cathedral disaster was inevitable.
I find it absolutely astounding that the King of France wasn't informed of all the atrocities that Frollo had committed against Paris.
Son of Hecate eh. The King of France was not present in the movie. But in the novel, he is.
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the movie probably take place in the 100 years war ( phoebus do mention it ) it explain why the king isn't here contrary to the novel .
@@stormbringer2840 You have a good point.
In the novel, Frollo twisted the truth to King Louis XI, who was in his deathbed, and granted Frollo permission. The church had complete control over politics at that time, so it’s very believable that Frollo would be 100% backed up by the royal family.
In the book the King was backing him. In the film, more like he's away leading the armies. France was fighting on all sides, against the English, the HRE, the Italian States, the Swiss and the Portuguese. An army of French knights even went east to take part in the wars against the Ottoman Turks.
I'm glad I watched this scene, I was in school and was friends with bad people and they told me to bash this other kid to earn their trust and I just thought of Phoebus in this scene and just couldn't do it. I was bullied by them after that and ruined my grade 5 years.
Now looking back, it was my best honor.
Oh, I`m so sorry to hear about it. But at least you did the right thing. And kudos.
When Frollo thought he had Esmeralda trapped in the cathedral, you can hear the people screaming in the background.
Phoebus’ words: “Consider it my highest honor, sir.”
Translation: “I won’t be apologizing for this, sir.”
This makes Phoebus delusional, as he doesn’t see that what he was doing was wrong.
For…saving lives?
@@Squirrel36 He disobeyed Frollo’s order to burn the place, which makes him a lousy solider.
@@conrad5673 With people inside it?
@@Squirrel36 Doesn’t matter; he defied a direct order.
Courier: You highness! Your highness! An urgent message from Paris.
Louis XI: Ah, it must the weekly report. I left Minister Frollo in charge. One of the finest ones there is. If anyone keeps Paris in tight control it's him. Now, lets see...
The Message: My dearest King! A gypsy got away and the gates of Hell opened into my fireplace. Fear not, immediate actions have been taken! Whole of Paris is now cleansed by holy fire. A new better world will soon rise! God Wills It! Yours truly, *Minister Claude Frollo*
Louis: XI: .....da fuck?
No one tell Louis what's gonna happen in Paris in about... 300-ish years. If he doesn't like Frollo, he's gonna _hate_ Robespierre.
LOL
😆
those archers have amazing aim
I honestly think it was a lucky shot. I mean none of the arrows hit the horse yet one managed to hit Phoebus
Unlike the Storm Troopers....
@@jacobmonks3722 If those were Shan Yu's archers Phoebus would be fucked
@@jacobmonks3722 Well, they were also not trying to hit the horse, so it pretty much was a difficult task.
3:27 THE SOUND OF THE BELLS, MY GOOOOOD! It's beautiful and wonderful... 🔔🔔
I love how frolos a like don't kill my horse
"He's a rental, and I'll be damned if I have to drag its corpse back to Kayak!"
Kyle Shea lol
Get him and don’t hit my hoss! Lol
get him and don't hit my horse 😂
His accent made it sound like hoss
Frollo so evil. There's a baby in the house too.
Phoebus is so... 💕😍 He risk his life to save the lives of civilian. He's so underrated.
I love how Frollos like: “Get him! And don’t hit my horse!”
Because that would be my reaction if I was in that situation.
In my opinion, the scene where we see all the fires in Paris is the scariest part of the entire movie. It shows how crazy and deluded that Frollo has become to the point where he literally burns down the city in order to get Esmerelda and the other gypsies.
Frollo just went completely MAD near the fireplace that night!
Everyone can see Frollo's true nature because he's a threat and a monster, not letting different people be what they are.
Yeah true all that about Frollo, he was just cruel and ruthless.
“I had a little trouble with the fireplace.”
*No shit Sherlock*
😅
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Frollo adopts Quasimodo because he was afraid of God's judgement. Oh Frollo God going to punish you for your sins.
Car il y avait une possibilité qu'il lui serve. Et c'est ce qu'il a fait en le menant à la cour des miracles
He refused to burn a family alive knowing it would mean his own execution. That ain't cowardice bro
One wonders what the King of France would've made of it all when he got back from campaign if Frollo hadn't taken his tumble.
"So...Frollo. In my absence, you decided to go on a purge, attempted to execute the favourite I sent back to help enforce my peace, declared war on Holy Mother Church, and practically BURNT. THE CAPITAL. TO ASH. ALLLL because you wanted to bed a gypsy?!"
Yeah, that is a problem with this film. Where the HECK is the king of France, anyway?
@@CrystalKingdomGeneral4942 Probably fighting in the war Phoebus was fighting. Not to mention how slow communication was back then so that could’ve been a factor.
@@TandaSandaBanda Nonetheless, Frollo was committing numerous illegal actions for OVER 20 YEARS. He would've been executed LONG before it got this bad.
@@CrystalKingdomGeneral4942 Must be a testament to how manipulative and deceitful he was. But yeah, arson alone in the Middle Ages was SUPER illegal. Not to mention the lack of a court. What, did he just expel the lot himself? Damn. Borderline dictatorial.
Kids of today's future don't know how gripping and great this movie was, and Disney knows no boundaries when it comes to dark scenes like this.
I’m 31 and yet I prefer the more lighthearted side of Disney
None is gonna talk about how Frollo is searching desperately for Esmeralda and she is just few meters from him hanging out with Djali? 😂
1:49 have you noticed: when Frollo lit the fire to burn the house with the family inside, the sky & the environment turned darker.
Fire can be dangerous and very powerful
@@Jothomas214 but here's the thing: the fire that Frollo used to burn down the house and the city of Paris wasn't regular fire. It was HELLfire. Fire from HELL
Don't get me wrong I love this part,but that house caught fire waaaaay to fast.
FUZ e DICE The house was made of straw and wood-both of which are _extremely_ flammable!
+Nate Hausmann but even then it would take at least a minute to to burn completely.
Both of you guys are correct, its made of flamable material but also must need some time to heat up
Frollo clearly know a thing or two about Greek napalm
But Phoebus DID jump in and saved the family from burning!😊
Phoebus... I LOVE YOU!
Esmeralda:❣💘
Apparently there was a line cut. When Frollo says "But you were trained to follow orders", Phoebus was originally supposed to reply "Not the orders of a mad man!". Why that line was cut, I'll never know
Maybe because actions speak louder than words.
If that was a real line, then I'm glad that it was cut. Putting out the torch was more than enough.
So like is no one going to acknowledge how beautifully animated this movie is
Imagine going to the bathroom and missing out on this 4 minutes. You’d have missed so much plot points!
It’s really incredible how much story they can fit into that timeframe. It’s a testament to the incredible writing editing. The story group was at the top of their game.
PHOEBUS IS A GOOD HERO MAN!!!! That was a good thing too in THIS situation!
Frollo:Orders his men to burn houses and arrests every gypsie in Paris
Also Frollo: Don't hit my horse
Why would anyone kill their own property
"Dont hit my horse!"
I literally laughed out loud
AlphaIkaros At least Frollo cares about his horse. Fun fact: the name of Frollo’s horse is Snowball.
@@singalingalongaling Quite a ironic name for a black horse.
Can we take a moment to admire how absolutely BEAUTIFUL Frollo’s horse is?! Damn! I don’t remember it having such a long mane and tail.
I love the comments section on kids' movies
Hooray for Phoebus, he saved the miller’s family from the windmill blaze. 👏🏻 It isn’t funny when 👨🏻⚖️ Frollo burns down the windmill that the miller works at with his relatives. 👍🏻 if you seriously agree.
Wow it seems that King Louis XI must had a very good day to allow Frollo to burn down Paris just for one gypsi woman
I don't think so, maybe he just wasn't thier.
Nope. I think if Louis XI of France was such an important character in this adaption, he would order Frollo to stop his misconduct and demand what is going on. And if Louis XI had similar character traits the same as the Archdeacon of Notre Dame, he would be furious at his actions of turning the whole city upside down for something so petty in finding one Romani person.
@@kryptonianpowers will never know
@@kryptonianpowers That's one of two problems I have with this movie. The oher one are the Gargoyles
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In the movie, France was at war and the king was away during the duration of what we see
"Get him! And don't hit my horse!"
Well at least Frollo cares about his horse lol
J.G Productions I commented on that on someone else’s comment.
Fun fact: The name of Frollo’s horse is Snowball.
What ever happened to the horse?
Watching this film when I was 7 or 8 was just downright creepy and I couldn’t sleep for WEEKS. Watching it now I look at it as a phenomenal masterpiece that addresses real issues and tears ur heartstrings. Just me?
2:34 Lol I’ve never noticed this but the crowd is actually cheering for Phoebus to get away! Frollo is also a complete psycho.
2:32 That dizzying left hook!!
Why is no one talking about the sheer fluidity of every goshdarn action scene in this movie!?! IT'S SO SOLID