It makes since that during the multiversel war that kang's weapons got shot or dropped through space and time, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if most ancient weapons throughout history belonged to kang and the varients.
I think we are watching Kang's story in reverse, ala' Memento style story telling. First we see his death, now we are seeing how "The Conqueror" is becoming "He Who Remains" and it will continue through his various iterations back to the beginning of his story as Nathan.
I'm my opinion I don't think Kang died in Ant Man. He just got sucked into the probability storm. Remember how Marvel goes, " If you don't see a body..they're probably not dead". I.E. : Scarlet Witch in MoM.!
Willing to bet we’ll see Franklin Richards and he’ll be connected with the introduction of the mutants then we’ll see the start of Kang with the last f4 movie
There's a scene on the movie where kang surrounds himself with the energy of the blast that one of the living things on the quantum realm shoots at him in a very Shang chi way, he even creates this flow figure as shang creates with the rings whenever is about to attack
Néstor Martínez YES! I’m so glad I’m not the only one who noticed this!! Literally as soon as I watched that move it screamed Shang Chi using the rings
Yes, the "battery head" guy shoots this gold beam of energy at Kang, he controls if just like Shang Chi's mother caught the rings, the difference while she changed the rings from blue to gold, Kang changed their color from gold to blue.
I also have a theory... Kang mentions he was looking to reach Eternity. That's specific wording which has to tie to Love and Thunder. Because Love gets Eternity eyes when she's reborn, I think there's some Eternity in her. So that's how they're gonna tie that whole story in with Kang.
Since the Shang Chi sequel will reportedly be entitled "Shang Chi and the Wreckage of Time", I support this theory. Some Marvel Studios executive producers and screenwriters already said that Kang will be in some part of every up incoming project in some manner, so it's not unreasonable to assume that at least a version of him will appear in The Wreckage of Time which is supposed to come out before The Kang Dynasty (reportedly). I still think that the Fantastic Four will be the real key to restarting the multiverse at the end of Secret Wars after Franklin Richards (Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer) summons Galactus to eat the dying multiverse, but this theory works also.
I Agree FF is itegral to Kang's Defeat or lack thereof. I have a theory There will be alot more dramatic tension between the avengers and FF when they find out that the leader of FF is the ancestor to the dude who's whopping all they asses. That could be the point of the second civil war, whether or not it is ok to kill Reed Richards to prevent Kang but the Ace up Kangs sleeve is the knowledge of the coming of Galactus and the fact that ONLY Reed Richards can develop the tech needed to defeat Galactus (The Ultimate Nullifier) So if they defeat Kang they seal their fate with galactus. I think it would solve the MCU's villain problem and we can still have variants of Kang keep popping up in the MCU even after this saga is over.
I think that's a fairly solid theory. After all, both relics do show a mastery over time, the Ten Rings stopping time for its user, rending him immortal, and Kamala's Bangle being able to send her back in time, although linearly back in a loop and not on another branching timeline. We also know that Shang Chi's 2nd movie is already titled the wreckage of Time, and Kang being the emperor of time, it all checks out.
ok, so hear me out. What if Kang "The Conqueror" from Quantomania was just destroying universes that had started incursions, and he was doing this sort of how "He Who Remains" pruned all alternate timelines, except Kang the Conqueror did it more viscously so the counsel of Kangs exiled him. What if The Conqueror was trying to prevent what he who remains will eventually do, because if you watch in Quantomania when Kang is explaining to Janet what happens and shows her the multiverse projections, he holds up in his hand the Sacred time line and says, "I know how it ends" meaning that he knows what he who remains is going to do, which is destroy all other time lines except the sacred time line, and what if the Conqueror is only trying to prevent that from happening, and none of the other Kangs see what he's talking about.
That was because he’s a variant of Kang and was the conqueror before he became He who remains they all just end up back in the in the same spot in time and be he who remains again
If that was Kangs dead arm they found the Bengle on then the arm wouldn't be blue it would be the color of Nathaniel Richards skin. Only his armor when activated makes his face blue. I'm under the impression that was a Kree arm.
You know, since Shang Chi gains the power to create doubles of himself in the comics, he may gain the power to generate and manipulate a probability storm that the Ten Rings can create to allow him to create variants of himself that can aid him in battle in Kang Dynasty.
I noticed when Kang redirected the energy blast from the laser headed creature, it looked similar to when Shang Chi did the same to his father. Also the arm being found could be why Rama Tut has no arms currently. He had his arms sliced off and drama ensues.
If you look at Kangs forarms when he uses the powers of his suit there are 5 rings on each forarm. Just wanted to add on more confirmation of your theory
I noticed how you mentioned the spinning of his chair and rings to move through time. Maybe this is due to the rings( and how time is a "circle) constantly passing each other which creates jump points to move about as each ring is partitions of the timeline. I wonder if this means Shang-Chi may also have the ability with ten rings, and this is why the rumored title for his sequel deals with time as well.
I have two theories a wanna share with you. 1. I think the way to defeat Kang is by having a "Sacred Timeline" that only focus on getting rid of all Kang variants instead of keeping just one alive. He Who Remains said it himself, the TVA works. He himself was getting rid of the other variants that way and seems to be the plan of the Kang variant we saw in Quantumania. We just need our heroes to figure that out. Everyone has a bit of the puzzle. They just don't know it yet. 2. I think the 10 rings and the bracers are actually Kang's armor left in the main 616 universe and the signal the rings are sending is actually the same that Cassie was sending in Quantumania. Now, IF that Kang variant really did survive at the end of the movie, it means that he is in a Schrodinger's box which means that every possibility of that Kang variant exists. Which also means there is one who gets out. Then he'll just pick up the signal, get his armor back and wreck the house.
@@milesvstheworld Now, this isn't relevant as much anymore because Majors was fired and it seems like Kang Dynasty is over but....I agree so much with this theory. The Kang we saw in Quantumania was more than likely He Who Remains. Think about it. Why else wouldn't Kang actually kill the Langs and Van Dynes? We know he isn't benevolent like that. He wants them to survive for a variety of reasons. First, they exist in the Sacred Timeline, which he actually wants to protect (He even told Janet he will not destroy her universe but he probably never planned to). Cassie could be the inventor of the Quantum Beacon, which he will use one day since he was born 1000 years later. Let's not forget that he also lets Scott know that he's killed countless Avengers, put down tons of rebellions and more. He Who Remains literally does just that by destroying so many timelines. And if in fact another Multiversal War was brewing then naturally HWR would be weary of the birth of the Scarlet Witch in Wandavision. Since she is a Nexus Being, she could very well be key to the destruction of the TVA and all Kang Variants. Phase 4 was definitely a mess, but I think more was coming together than we realize.
What if "he who remains" is the one variant of Kang that doesn't want to conquer, but save everyone, which is why he set himself apart and earth 616. Then he used his ability to set things in motion eons before and that's why the TVA is important to make sure there is no chance that his universe incurs with other universes that would ultimately doom everyone.
Bro , hwr already conquer the univers this is why he control the sacred timeline , he already finish his purpose , he is not good just better than his variant
@@notmephisto1375 Exactly, my theory is that the rings are able to harness the probability storm allowing Shang-Chi to create multiple versions of himself, like he can in the comics.
The Ten Rings do seem neurokinetic, in that they do the will of the one wielding them. And the temporal energy would have been able to keep Wenwu alive for centuries.
Having Kang get trapped in a probability storm that forces him to make peace with himself and find a way to return as this universes version of He Who Remains would be very on brand for Disney/Marvel
And then a Variant of Kang played by The Rock emerged and started working out while shouting about "Kangin' and Bangin'" all while CM Punk looks on disinterested.
It my mind, the rings, the bangle, and Wanda's powers are the things that scare Kang if his variants get to them. So he's been orchestrating making sure nobody touches any of those objects if their name is Nathaniel Richards. It would be interesting if Kang is also a reason why 616 hasn't had a Fantastic 4 up to this point in time, too, because Kang knows if they come in contact with any of the objects or Wanda, he's screwed.
Theory - when He Who Remains says - “Threshold” - I think that was exact moment when Sylvie stabbed HWR, Wanda becoming SW and Dr. Strange/Peter’s spell. It all happened at same or similar times.
My theory is Phase 5 and 6 is going to be awesome. Thankfully I possess the open mind and the curiosity to enjoy where the MCU story is going. Even more thankful for channels like these to help navigate that path with exposition
Nonone has yet mentioned Kang’s fighting style where he blows that robots head off using the same technique that Shang Chi uses to turn the blue rings to yellow.
Could the Kang from AM3 actually be He Who Remains?? There is a slight pause when HWR explains his many names in Loki when he says "...conquerer" . When AM3 Kang hits the Quantum Core, it sends him to the end of time where he becomes HWR ?? Thoughts ?
i like it. why else would they include the loki S2 credit scene at the end of AM3? I think they're confirming Kang in Quantumania has a direct link to He Who Remains that we met in Loki. And that's why Quantumania and Loki are releasing in 2023, the first year of Phase 5.
He who remains doesn't want to restart the cycle he wanted to break the cycle that's why he offered Sylvie the chair after passing the threshold. It could be that he sent that tech back in an attempt to unmoor the cycle of the multiverse
Fantastic one, this to me is much better than other theories. Simply because it's understandable for a non-comic fan. Someone who just enjoys the movies.
Amazingly solid theory. I absolutely believe "the one who remains" planned somewhat of a contingency plan. He intentionally died in hopes of his future vision coming to fruition
Honestly I get the impression that he who remains and the Kang from Antman are the same variant from different points of his life. In Antman Kang says his variants are playing with time like children and he’s going to shut them out of time completely. In Loki he says he successfully ended the multiversal war and saved the universe from an infinite amount of himself. He also says he discovered alioth and weaponized him. In the comics alioth is a creature cremated by energy from whenever time travel and dimension hopping happens. It’s possible that at the end of Antman Kang was sent to the domain of Alioth.
it would make sense to combine the rings and the bangle... Disney knows all 3 of these properties aren't their most popular... having them combine into a super important story moving forward would make sense (when reviewing from outside the MCU) and could have a nice re-watch novelty after the fact
that would be genius movie business skills to be honest. if your theory is correct, Mickey Mouse is a marketing genius and an unstoppable monopolist force lmao.
i totally agree, just measure the bangle, the 3 gaps, totally can fit the 10 rings. The assemble item probably below to Kang, and when he got beat, his wrist device probably split up and went to different part of earth. i think the plot now would be. once the council of kang arrive and attack. Avengers try to defeat the council by assembying the rings to the bangle. The assembly instead it brought bacK Kang who then defeat the council with the help of the new avengers. then they have a tense stand off as to what to do next.
At the end, ant man seems to be in a time loop. He even passes the same couple twice within seconds of each other. Lots of green and purple in every scene. Somebody is playing with his mind.
If you rewatch the final trailer. The shot of all scot langs building that ant structure of himself to get closer to the ship battery, if you look closely, the shadow created from the energy source makes CLEARLY the shape of the sanctums window symbol. I've posted this on every trailer recap video I've found and never saw anyone mention it. It's clearly in the shot, but there's so much going on you miss it. I only saw it dead asleep watching in complete darkness. I was like, AYO?!?! NO ONE SAW THAT?! Go check it out. Kang also has a line in the movie that I am very certain was capitalized in the script. He mentions Erernity proceeded by an adjective. So I'm assuming he was talking about eternity itself. I think that destroyed statue in Eternities chamber place we saw in Love and Thunder is actually a statue of Kang.
@@anthonyzullo I wondered the same thing when he mentioned Eternity. He could easily mean all of time ofc but it might not be coincidental that we meet Eternity before Quantumania was released.
*I have a theory: the Bengals and the 10 rings are pinging to the Kang variant that created them. An example would be Pharaoh Rama Tut creating the 10 rings and leaving them for an avengers team to find, once found, he swoops in on the team takes them to battle world in which he will fight that avengers team that found the 10 rings against his Dark Avenger's team...all other Kang variants follow suit*
Everyone talking about how his rings look like the Ten Rings, but not enough people talking about how his chair looks like a giant Eye of Agamoto, and he sits where the Time Stone would sit.
I like the distinction between "dimension" and "universe." Each universe in the multiverse could have many different dimensions attached. I always thought Asgard was in a different dimension, anyway. 🤔
I think MCU Asgard is just an alien planet, but Greek and Egyptian gods definitely live in different dimensions. They just MEET in Omnipotence City, but they don't LIVE there. They have multiple dimensions, like the Duat or the goddess Bast's Ancestral Plane, that's mentioned both in Black Panther and Moon Knight. We also saw Bast in Omnipotence City. Note that Greek and Egyptian gods are immortal beings billions of years old, while Asgardians have a lifespan of 5000 years and can actually die in battle. Asgardians are mortal aliens who somehow got godly powers, not "actual" gods. That's why they don't matter that much in Omnipotence City.
These rings are all totally related. It’s also why Kang needed to get out to enhance his powers. I think we will learn as we go along phase 5, the rings are way more powerful outside of the Realm. Even though, they’re still strong in the Realm.
not sure if it’s mentioned but the fact that the ten rings give the user immortality and can live along LONG time and kang has immortality as does he who remains, a possible connection?
I think the rings are from Kang. And the beacon could be a call to come join the counsel. Once I saw the Egyptian Kang had robot arms I did think it could have been his arm. But the color is wrong. But there was a blue Kang so maybe it’s a different Kang variant.
@leonardotabora5413 Marval likes simple plot lines. And Kang just threating Earth 616 just for the heck of it is repedtivite. Unlike stoping him from getting his full arsenal. Since he will have to either kill or completely defeat Shang Chi, Miss. Marval and other tech we don't know about could be used by other heroes. It gives those weapons a human element.
The Rings are the second bangle, split into pieces, so 1) not to alert Kang of the location of his missing weapons, and 2) so their full, quantum, old-timey-wimey powers can't be used, because no one knows how to put it back together.
This theory tracks very well! Too many aesthetic coincidences on a large scale for it to be minor.. I don't think individually Shang-Chi and Kamala are "saviors" but definitely integral components to the multi-verse.
I believe each phase 4 show is individually set in different multiverses, and they will all join forces to fight Kang in secret wars. It will explain why celestials exist in one place and not another. The fracture and splitting of multiverses began only after Loki went to the TVA, and hence their histories are all very similar, and only their branches differ. This is the only explanation why we didn't see all the heroes during endgame.
I was confused a little in antman. It made kang to be a mega bad guy but then implied he was working to stop the other kangs from fighting. But then the end credit scene implied he was right, that the council of Kangs were the real threat. Quantum kang obviously was evil in crushing the quantum inhabitants but maybe he was misunderstood?
Great video! While watching it and thinking that the Bengal has time traveling powers I started to wonder if the Bengal sent Kamala forward in time so far that she traveled past a restart of the sacred timeline and all the way to 1947 of a restarted timeline ( sort of as if she completed one big lap of a sacred timeline circle) This would explain how she arrived to help her grandma while not remembering or knowing she was the one who guided her back to her family. It may also help explain how her time travel didn’t create a branching reality, thank you for the content that is created at screencrush.
My question to that whole scene at the end of Loki with "He Who Remains" is, What causes the threshold and the timelines to split. It couldn't really have been Silvy killing "He Who Remains", since he mentions the threshold BEFORE she stabs him.
@@DanieleFisichella But that's just one theory. The scene from No Way Home when Dr. Strange's spell gets messed up by Peter has also been talked about being a reason for it... So, at this point, it could really be anything.
Post credit scene, Kang (Rama-Tut) has a mechanical looking arm. Would this not have been his arm found with the bangle? Also the photo from the comics of Rama-Tut used in this video seems to show brackets or bangle. Little details everywhere!
Plus, Scott Lang and Shang Chi are both from San Francisco. That beacon could be the message that the three superior Kang's sent to other Kang's and while they were doing that the beacon caught that signal. Or, that beacon could be the signal Cassie sent to the Quantum realm and the beacon just happened to be an earthly reflection or representation of it.
what i was thinking is that shang chi rings was sending message was actually from kang himself because he was sucked into ,and he is not dead yet (maybe) but the shang chi post credit scene might have happened after antman quantum mania
I think The Ancient One, Wenwu, and Aisha are somehow directly related to Kang. The Sanctum Sanctorum's origin was quite the same as that in the Quantum Kingdom of Kang, as well as the Case of the Eye of Agamotto and how it holds the time stone kinda relates to it. Wenwu's rings have already been explained as well as Aisha's bangles. I think the ten rings' extreme capabilities have not yet been discovered. BUT, the thing that makes it all connect is not just that they are all dead, but that they have lived FOR A LONG TIME, that probably they may have met Kang in a moment or worst case, probably knew each other. But Marvel has not yet explained the connection of their movies: Shang Chi, Doctor Strange, as well as the Marvels or Ms. Marvel in particular. Any thoughts?
I know Ryan you have said it and Kevin @HeavySpoilers has said it I believe - but this all seems to be leading up to Kang going to the Beyondverse where he will become The Beyonder and maybe he will become He Who Remains and loop back into everything dealing with the Loki series.
Maybe the rings could emit cosmic microwave background radiation (like what was found in WandaVision) and are actually very ancient. Perhaps Kang traveled back through time and discovered them in the past.
The blue in Ms Marvel is supposed to be Kree who created the inhumans. I suspect that'll connect her closer to Captain Marvel in the origin of their power.
very good point since Captain is so involved in her story… I think this is all just a big mess 😭 and if none of it’s connected then it’s just ugly for no reason, I’m becoming such a post-Endgame hater
Connections are undeniable. Phase 4 was a really good setup phase for 5 and 6 and everything we'll see in the future. Even standalone series such as Moon Knight and Knoshu will make sense when we see them in the Kang Dynasty. Anyways, If we collect all those breadcrumbs piece by piece from movies and series, we might have seen the Skrull version of Kang (from the council of Kangs). He probably came to Earth thousands of years ago and started a cult around him (as much as always he does, like Rama-tut did in ancient Egypt or the Conqurer did in Quantum Realm). So, the people who obeyed this Skrull Kang named the cult "Ten Rings" which was perfect sense because people knew those rings were powerful objects. Then Someone or something attacked the cult and killed everyone with Kang and the cult has been forgotten for a long time until Shang Chi's father Wenvu found the ten rings and saw the flag. Started his own cult. And Clandestines found the bangle then realized that they were able to travel outside their dimensions to another one and vice versa.
Honestly when I saw how the movie ended with Ant-Man in Kang my first thought when he got sucked into the portal and the explosion and whatnot was how it resembled almost exactly how Darren cross "died" in the first Ant-Man, when every found out in this movie Donnelly did not die he was just sent to the quantum realm which again has always been explained as its own individual round outside of time and space below the existing Realms in multiverses. So I immediately said to my wife as we're walking out of the movie is that is how the Dynasty and Secret Wars is going to start because not only did that not kill Kang, all it did was , along with his some of his tech, sent him " down" to and ultimately created a brand new realm basically like the Quantum realm but somehow, and possibly because of the earth Portal being open or having the coordinates to earth 616 saved from Cassie's machine he's been able to connect to and influence how that Multiverse AND timeline has been progressing and also having seen first-hand what Ant-Man as well as this version of The Avengers had done knew they would be his best shot and also a great way to distract the council of kangs, and then also because America Ferrera is the only person in the Multiverse as explained in the last Doctor Strange movie that can travel between the multiverses without causing incursions because she is the only version of yourself there are no other versions of her that exist also why she can't have dreams. So instead of pruning all the timelines like he's been doing, more efficiently by also using the avengers as his "weapons" to destroy the council of Kangs, then once they are all destroyed he could then freely without causing any incursions travel between and CONQUER every remaining timline or just create his one true timeline.
Some people have been claiming there's been no set up for the next avengers. But as you've just shown us, every movie and show has gave us nuggets towards it and its all starting to come together. Marvels too good. Dc could only dream of having such a intertwined cohesive universe
Unlike the gauntlet maybe the rings can be used in any universe. The Infinity gauntlet and the Stones can only be used in the universe it came from. That's my guess
@@cruzinthruspace this would make sense if these devices are powered by quantum energy as it seems the quantum realm in the MCU appears foundational to the multiverse where as the infinity stones are formed within the individual universes.
Ummm, the bengals don’t create Kamala’s powers. She’s a mutant, the bengals just activated her own powers. Also, Kang’s not blue in the MCU… his blue is associated with his tech/armor. It’s gotta be a Cree hand. Maybe both artifacts have to do with Kang, but these points are just incorrect 😞
Garrett Limon Kang wasn’t even blue in the comics either lol. It’s ALWAYS just been his face shield that makes him look blue. Idk what he was talking about there lol
@@rileyribble6733 I think the most disappointing part is that Ryan knows these things as he’s acknowledged them in past videos, so why he’s stating incorrect points to justify his theory that’s otherwise definitely possible is strange
In Simple words- Kangs time machine rings = Shangchi's rings and also the beacon inside it is from the kang variant trapped in it. Kangs Time machine's Core = Kamalas bangle bcz the bangles lets the wearer travel through time.
Avengers assembled to protect Maccguffins (Shang-Chi's ten rings & Kamala's bengal) They embrace incursion, multiversal war, chaos everywhere...they once again do the time travel to defeat Kang's Dark Triad On the Past Rama Tut vs Captain America, Moon Knight, the Defenders, Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man On the Present Immortus vs Thor, Doctor Strange, mages, gods, interdimensional beings, and supernatural beings On the Future Kang who looks like High Evolutionary, Iron Lad, or Scarlet Centurion vs Iron-man & Young Avengers On the Kang's realm Council of Kang vs Ant-man family, the Eternals, Captain Marvel, GotG, other intergalactic beings On Earth 616 Other anti-heroes like Thunderbolts become search and rescue team. They will rise like false messiah. Avengers will fall in Kang Dynasty but will comeback&rise again in Secret War lead by Fantastic Four
I can see Kang wanting to use the Ten Rings, Bangle, and Man-Thing to rule the Multiverse and of course Shang-Chi, Ms. Marvel, Jack, and Elsa won’t allow that to happen!
My theory is that the Kang that we saw on Quantumania (if his motivation is to create the sacred timeline) will be revealed as He Who Remains after Secret Wars. Since the MCU is on a time loop, then most probably some Kang that we saw on the movie would end up being the one on the citadel.
I think Shang Chi’s post credit scene links to Qauntamania’s post credit scene… There was a beacon call for the rings… and immortus called for all Kangs across the multiverse to come in to the council meeting… 🤷🏽♂️
I think the core taps and draws power directly from the quantum realm. A more efficient version of Luis' van. The core's also connected to Kang's mind and thoughts so he may be able to travel where ever he imagines. The 10 rings in his possession are probably far more than we know now. Another built in fail safe is they prolong the life of the person that has them. They may also seem older because they were made outside of time and space. Being from beyond, they and the wearer are not affected by time and space. Maybe they allow for direct manipulation of time and space when also linked to the chair and orb. In all his travels and conquering there's probably no doubt Kang came across an Eternal or Celestial yet to be birthed and studied their tech. What it's made from and what powers it.
Love these videos helping explain stuff about this multiverse/timeline travel. Me not too smart. Me preferred simpler story like Infinity Saga. But with the help of these videos, me understand better now. Thanks. 😁
The World engine orb is the soul of the celestials. Go back to Loki last episode look at all the models and you'll see when he shows how two variance were making a world engine, you'll see a globe of the world where India is scooped out So basically these two variants figured out that if you use the heart or the soul of celestials you can travel through the multiverse. It's right there plain as day when he's explaining it to Sylvie and Loki. And isn't it weird that the world engine orb and housing looks like the baby gamora in the gondola scene of Infinity War where it reflected in the pool. So basically there's a soul in the center of the machine and it's the celestials.
🔴 Wait, at 8:45 Ryan says that the sacred timeline didn't consist of different universes, but just the 616 and the different dimensions in it, doesn't that contradict what he said in another video? Which was that the sacred timeline was made of all the universes that don't have a Kang variant?
Just missed the eternals connection since it's obvious the writting in the rings is the same from their ship, so it means its connected to the celestials, beings from the beginning of the universe and most likely the last from the previous one
What do you think of our theory?
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Yes 👍...it makes sense
I really don't know what to think anymore 🤯
It makes since that during the multiversel war that kang's weapons got shot or dropped through space and time, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if most ancient weapons throughout history belonged to kang and the varients.
Kang’s chair is still in the QR?…
I think we are watching Kang's story in reverse, ala' Memento style story telling. First we see his death, now we are seeing how "The Conqueror" is becoming "He Who Remains" and it will continue through his various iterations back to the beginning of his story as Nathan.
that's f-in' awesome
I'm my opinion I don't think Kang died in Ant Man. He just got sucked into the probability storm. Remember how Marvel goes, " If you don't see a body..they're probably not dead". I.E. : Scarlet Witch in MoM.!
Talk about anti-climax
Maybe he’s fulfilling a purpose
Willing to bet we’ll see Franklin Richards and he’ll be connected with the introduction of the mutants then we’ll see the start of Kang with the last f4 movie
There's a scene on the movie where kang surrounds himself with the energy of the blast that one of the living things on the quantum realm shoots at him in a very Shang chi way, he even creates this flow figure as shang creates with the rings whenever is about to attack
Néstor Martínez YES! I’m so glad I’m not the only one who noticed this!! Literally as soon as I watched that move it screamed Shang Chi using the rings
Finally someone noticed
YES! and if i remember correctly the energy was yellow and when he rerouted it changed to blue
@@miatulloch3303 yesss that's the one!
Yes, the "battery head" guy shoots this gold beam of energy at Kang, he controls if just like Shang Chi's mother caught the rings, the difference while she changed the rings from blue to gold, Kang changed their color from gold to blue.
There’s a line in the movie where kang says “protect the rings” talking about his new time ship but that’s the only mention of rings
I also have a theory... Kang mentions he was looking to reach Eternity. That's specific wording which has to tie to Love and Thunder. Because Love gets Eternity eyes when she's reborn, I think there's some Eternity in her. So that's how they're gonna tie that whole story in with Kang.
🤔 hadn't thought of that but could be !
Since the Shang Chi sequel will reportedly be entitled "Shang Chi and the Wreckage of Time", I support this theory. Some Marvel Studios executive producers and screenwriters already said that Kang will be in some part of every up incoming project in some manner, so it's not unreasonable to assume that at least a version of him will appear in The Wreckage of Time which is supposed to come out before The Kang Dynasty (reportedly). I still think that the Fantastic Four will be the real key to restarting the multiverse at the end of Secret Wars after Franklin Richards (Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer) summons Galactus to eat the dying multiverse, but this theory works also.
I Agree FF is itegral to Kang's Defeat or lack thereof. I have a theory There will be alot more dramatic tension between the avengers and FF when they find out that the leader of FF is the ancestor to the dude who's whopping all they asses. That could be the point of the second civil war, whether or not it is ok to kill Reed Richards to prevent Kang but the Ace up Kangs sleeve is the knowledge of the coming of Galactus and the fact that ONLY Reed Richards can develop the tech needed to defeat Galactus (The Ultimate Nullifier) So if they defeat Kang they seal their fate with galactus. I think it would solve the MCU's villain problem and we can still have variants of Kang keep popping up in the MCU even after this saga is over.
Guaranteed that title, IF correct, will change before it is released. Hell, so will the story. Lol
@@usakrana8871 might be a plot point for Secret Wars Battleworld. And a Kang Variant will be in Shang Chi 2
Except they already told us the rings are older than mankind. Highly doubt he created them.
@@usakrana8871 so the Quantumania kang is like an anti-hero?
I think that's a fairly solid theory.
After all, both relics do show a mastery over time, the Ten Rings stopping time for its user, rending him immortal, and Kamala's Bangle being able to send her back in time, although linearly back in a loop and not on another branching timeline. We also know that Shang Chi's 2nd movie is already titled the wreckage of Time, and Kang being the emperor of time, it all checks out.
Kamala might also be immortal or have longetivity
@@souventudubanned kamala bangle is quantum bands
ok, so hear me out. What if Kang "The Conqueror" from Quantomania was just destroying universes that had started incursions, and he was doing this sort of how "He Who Remains" pruned all alternate timelines, except Kang the Conqueror did it more viscously so the counsel of Kangs exiled him. What if The Conqueror was trying to prevent what he who remains will eventually do, because if you watch in Quantomania when Kang is explaining to Janet what happens and shows her the multiverse projections, he holds up in his hand the Sacred time line and says, "I know how it ends" meaning that he knows what he who remains is going to do, which is destroy all other time lines except the sacred time line, and what if the Conqueror is only trying to prevent that from happening, and none of the other Kangs see what he's talking about.
What if quantumania kang is he who remains? He who remains did say he was called conqueror before
Hear me out... what if you got a job and moved out from your mom's basement.
That was because he’s a variant of Kang and was the conqueror before he became He who remains they all just end up back in the in the same spot in time and be he who remains again
You right, this is definitely starting to feel like Destiny War.
@@y.s.o8757 yes but one of these kangs WILL become he who remains. It's a looped timeline
If that was Kangs dead arm they found the Bengle on then the arm wouldn't be blue it would be the color of Nathaniel Richards skin. Only his armor when activated makes his face blue. I'm under the impression that was a Kree arm.
Agreed! When he said that the hand maybe Kang's, that part confused me!
Ramu tut is missing both of his arms 🤯
@@2GUHitSquadacts, he looks like he's been prosthetically modified
You could make the argument that the tech is so advanced it was biologically bind to him
There are a crazy number of Kangs and within the army of kangs the was 1 in this clip that look naturally blue.
You know, since Shang Chi gains the power to create doubles of himself in the comics, he may gain the power to generate and manipulate a probability storm that the Ten Rings can create to allow him to create variants of himself that can aid him in battle in Kang Dynasty.
That's KageBunshin no jutsu
That’s genius
On some shadow clone jutsu shit 😮😂
Yoooooo
I noticed when Kang redirected the energy blast from the laser headed creature, it looked similar to when Shang Chi did the same to his father. Also the arm being found could be why Rama Tut has no arms currently. He had his arms sliced off and drama ensues.
If you look at Kangs forarms when he uses the powers of his suit there are 5 rings on each forarm. Just wanted to add on more confirmation of your theory
I noticed how you mentioned the spinning of his chair and rings to move through time. Maybe this is due to the rings( and how time is a "circle) constantly passing each other which creates jump points to move about as each ring is partitions of the timeline. I wonder if this means Shang-Chi may also have the ability with ten rings, and this is why the rumored title for his sequel deals with time as well.
I have two theories a wanna share with you.
1. I think the way to defeat Kang is by having a "Sacred Timeline" that only focus on getting rid of all Kang variants instead of keeping just one alive. He Who Remains said it himself, the TVA works. He himself was getting rid of the other variants that way and seems to be the plan of the Kang variant we saw in Quantumania. We just need our heroes to figure that out. Everyone has a bit of the puzzle. They just don't know it yet.
2. I think the 10 rings and the bracers are actually Kang's armor left in the main 616 universe and the signal the rings are sending is actually the same that Cassie was sending in Quantumania. Now, IF that Kang variant really did survive at the end of the movie, it means that he is in a Schrodinger's box which means that every possibility of that Kang variant exists. Which also means there is one who gets out. Then he'll just pick up the signal, get his armor back and wreck the house.
GENIUS, CALL FEIGE!
i also think reed will be a key figure in helping the heroes and us (the audience) understand your first theory.
And that kang will become the beyonder
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Now, this isn't relevant as much anymore because Majors was fired and it seems like Kang Dynasty is over but....I agree so much with this theory. The Kang we saw in Quantumania was more than likely He Who Remains.
Think about it. Why else wouldn't Kang actually kill the Langs and Van Dynes? We know he isn't benevolent like that. He wants them to survive for a variety of reasons. First, they exist in the Sacred Timeline, which he actually wants to protect (He even told Janet he will not destroy her universe but he probably never planned to). Cassie could be the inventor of the Quantum Beacon, which he will use one day since he was born 1000 years later. Let's not forget that he also lets Scott know that he's killed countless Avengers, put down tons of rebellions and more. He Who Remains literally does just that by destroying so many timelines. And if in fact another Multiversal War was brewing then naturally HWR would be weary of the birth of the Scarlet Witch in Wandavision. Since she is a Nexus Being, she could very well be key to the destruction of the TVA and all Kang Variants.
Phase 4 was definitely a mess, but I think more was coming together than we realize.
What if "he who remains" is the one variant of Kang that doesn't want to conquer, but save everyone, which is why he set himself apart and earth 616. Then he used his ability to set things in motion eons before and that's why the TVA is important to make sure there is no chance that his universe incurs with other universes that would ultimately doom everyone.
that's what he tells 10 minutes to loki bro lol
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No he's the most evil and also the good one
Bro , hwr already conquer the univers this is why he control the sacred timeline , he already finish his purpose , he is not good just better than his variant
The "probability storm" that's generated is totally how we're going to get multiple Shang-Chi's fighting multiple Kang variants at the same time.
oh shit... i was thinking about Shang-Chi teaching spiderman some art forms but i didn't even think about him pulling off his multiplicity. dope.
I wanna see Shang and MCU 616 proper iron fist in a scene together soon
So they will fight in another Kang energy source that has grown in size (like the movie)?
Interesting, because in the comics Shang has been able to use that duplication power.
@@notmephisto1375 Exactly, my theory is that the rings are able to harness the probability storm allowing Shang-Chi to create multiple versions of himself, like he can in the comics.
I believe most things in phase 4 that have to deal with “magic” and items is all going to connect to Kang Dynasty
Magic is just science we can't explain 😳
Sometimes magic is just an explanation for plot holes.
*phase 5
The Ten Rings do seem neurokinetic, in that they do the will of the one wielding them. And the temporal energy would have been able to keep Wenwu alive for centuries.
Having Kang get trapped in a probability storm that forces him to make peace with himself and find a way to return as this universes version of He Who Remains would be very on brand for Disney/Marvel
My Favorite part of the movie was when Kang said "Its Kanging time" and then he Kanged all over Antman like a KangBang.
He Kanged Hard in the End.
Literally lol’d
And then a Variant of Kang played by The Rock emerged and started working out while shouting about "Kangin' and Bangin'" all while CM Punk looks on disinterested.
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It my mind, the rings, the bangle, and Wanda's powers are the things that scare Kang if his variants get to them. So he's been orchestrating making sure nobody touches any of those objects if their name is Nathaniel Richards. It would be interesting if Kang is also a reason why 616 hasn't had a Fantastic 4 up to this point in time, too, because Kang knows if they come in contact with any of the objects or Wanda, he's screwed.
Theory - when He Who Remains says - “Threshold” - I think that was exact moment when Sylvie stabbed HWR, Wanda becoming SW and Dr. Strange/Peter’s spell. It all happened at same or similar times.
My theory is Phase 5 and 6 is going to be awesome. Thankfully I possess the open mind and the curiosity to enjoy where the MCU story is going. Even more thankful for channels like these to help navigate that path with exposition
Hello Kevin Feige, nice feint lol
Phase 4 was so garbage
Current MCU is garbage.
@@pat_diesel moon knight was one of the highlights tho? Falcon and Eternals were bad
It’s like a new fad with teenagers to shit on marvel, and it carries on into adults who never grew up.
Nonone has yet mentioned Kang’s fighting style where he blows that robots head off using the same technique that Shang Chi uses to turn the blue rings to yellow.
Could the Kang from AM3 actually be He Who Remains?? There is a slight pause when HWR explains his many names in Loki when he says "...conquerer" . When AM3 Kang hits the Quantum Core, it sends him to the end of time where he becomes HWR ?? Thoughts ?
i like it. why else would they include the loki S2 credit scene at the end of AM3? I think they're confirming Kang in Quantumania has a direct link to He Who Remains that we met in Loki. And that's why Quantumania and Loki are releasing in 2023, the first year of Phase 5.
I love the idea that Kang uses the rings to control time and the universe, meanwhile the primitive avengers can only use them as weapons.
He who remains doesn't want to restart the cycle he wanted to break the cycle that's why he offered Sylvie the chair after passing the threshold. It could be that he sent that tech back in an attempt to unmoor the cycle of the multiverse
Fantastic one, this to me is much better than other theories. Simply because it's understandable for a non-comic fan. Someone who just enjoys the movies.
Amazingly solid theory. I absolutely believe "the one who remains" planned somewhat of a contingency plan. He intentionally died in hopes of his future vision coming to fruition
Honestly I get the impression that he who remains and the Kang from Antman are the same variant from different points of his life.
In Antman Kang says his variants are playing with time like children and he’s going to shut them out of time completely. In Loki he says he successfully ended the multiversal war and saved the universe from an infinite amount of himself.
He also says he discovered alioth and weaponized him. In the comics alioth is a creature cremated by energy from whenever time travel and dimension hopping happens. It’s possible that at the end of Antman Kang was sent to the domain of Alioth.
wait, deos that mean He who remains was the future of Kang from quantumania?!?!
@@meraki664 maybe
@@meraki664 I don't think he is. He who remains doesn't have a scar on his face.
@@zalstudio8227 oh i forgot abt that
@@zalstudio8227 sure he doesn’t have the scars, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t use his future tech to get rid of the scars.
it would make sense to combine the rings and the bangle... Disney knows all 3 of these properties aren't their most popular... having them combine into a super important story moving forward would make sense (when reviewing from outside the MCU) and could have a nice re-watch novelty after the fact
that would be genius movie business skills to be honest. if your theory is correct, Mickey Mouse is a marketing genius and an unstoppable monopolist force lmao.
i totally agree, just measure the bangle, the 3 gaps, totally can fit the 10 rings. The assemble item probably below to Kang, and when he got beat, his wrist device probably split up and went to different part of earth. i think the plot now would be. once the council of kang arrive and attack. Avengers try to defeat the council by assembying the rings to the bangle. The assembly instead it brought bacK Kang who then defeat the council with the help of the new avengers. then they have a tense stand off as to what to do next.
I think its important to say that its not just that Kang is smart relative to us, but he is from the distant future and is a genius of that time
HELL YES
I'm still trying to figure out how Ant Man defeated Kang.
He didn't. He let Kang escape the QR.
That's the neat part, he didn't! Even in the epilog he's questioning himself
He wasn't defeated, it was just a temporary hiccup. He'll escape from that orb thing yet.
Pushed him into a multiversal engine core with help*
At the end, ant man seems to be in a time loop. He even passes the same couple twice within seconds of each other. Lots of green and purple in every scene. Somebody is playing with his mind.
If everything you mentioned here fired indeed interconnect the plot of each upcoming project then I’m very excited for this next phase of mcu!!🤩
I've been saying this.
Kang clearly says "don't let Atman touch the rings"
Isn't Kang's sphere a 2D version of the window in the Sanctum Sanctorum?
You've transposed the 2d and sphere dimensions Should be the window int the sanctum is a 2D version of his sphere
If you rewatch the final trailer. The shot of all scot langs building that ant structure of himself to get closer to the ship battery, if you look closely, the shadow created from the energy source makes CLEARLY the shape of the sanctums window symbol. I've posted this on every trailer recap video I've found and never saw anyone mention it. It's clearly in the shot, but there's so much going on you miss it. I only saw it dead asleep watching in complete darkness. I was like, AYO?!?! NO ONE SAW THAT?! Go check it out. Kang also has a line in the movie that I am very certain was capitalized in the script. He mentions Erernity proceeded by an adjective. So I'm assuming he was talking about eternity itself. I think that destroyed statue in Eternities chamber place we saw in Love and Thunder is actually a statue of Kang.
@@anthonyzullo I sat there in cinema whispering to my friend: Was that the thing from the thing 😳🤯
Good job on spreading the notion 👍
@@anthonyzullo I wondered the same thing when he mentioned Eternity. He could easily mean all of time ofc but it might not be coincidental that we meet Eternity before Quantumania was released.
*I have a theory: the Bengals and the 10 rings are pinging to the Kang variant that created them. An example would be Pharaoh Rama Tut creating the 10 rings and leaving them for an avengers team to find, once found, he swoops in on the team takes them to battle world in which he will fight that avengers team that found the 10 rings against his Dark Avenger's team...all other Kang variants follow suit*
Plus in the climax Kang said Dont Let Them Get To The Rings so they have to be connected to him
shang-chi meanwhile-dancing with wong
We all say stuff we don't mean during a climax
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I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but kang wrist was sparking and looked like it was damaged before he got sucked in to the power source
Whaaaaaat oh shit
Interesting
Everyone talking about how his rings look like the Ten Rings, but not enough people talking about how his chair looks like a giant Eye of Agamoto, and he sits where the Time Stone would sit.
😯
I like the distinction between "dimension" and "universe." Each universe in the multiverse could have many different dimensions attached. I always thought Asgard was in a different dimension, anyway. 🤔
I think MCU Asgard is just an alien planet, but Greek and Egyptian gods definitely live in different dimensions. They just MEET in Omnipotence City, but they don't LIVE there. They have multiple dimensions, like the Duat or the goddess Bast's Ancestral Plane, that's mentioned both in Black Panther and Moon Knight. We also saw Bast in Omnipotence City. Note that Greek and Egyptian gods are immortal beings billions of years old, while Asgardians have a lifespan of 5000 years and can actually die in battle. Asgardians are mortal aliens who somehow got godly powers, not "actual" gods. That's why they don't matter that much in Omnipotence City.
These rings are all totally related. It’s also why Kang needed to get out to enhance his powers. I think we will learn as we go along phase 5, the rings are way more powerful outside of the Realm. Even though, they’re still strong in the Realm.
so glad we're talking about this!
not sure if it’s mentioned but the fact that the ten rings give the user immortality and can live along LONG time and kang has immortality as does he who remains, a possible connection?
wow… this is actually the strongest connection made, I had heavy doubts until I read your comment
Well... i wanna rewatch Shang-Chi now. It's criminally underrated.
If you look closely, it looks like Rama-Tut has robotic arms. The blue arm that had the bangle could have been Rama-Tut's severed arm
I think the rings are from Kang. And the beacon could be a call to come join the counsel.
Once I saw the Egyptian Kang had robot arms I did think it could have been his arm. But the color is wrong. But there was a blue Kang so maybe it’s a different Kang variant.
I could see the Kang Dynasty be about stopping Kang getting his main weapons.
Kinda like how infinity war was about stopping Thanos from getting the infinity stones
@leonardotabora5413 Marval likes simple plot lines. And Kang just threating Earth 616 just for the heck of it is repedtivite. Unlike stoping him from getting his full arsenal. Since he will have to either kill or completely defeat Shang Chi, Miss. Marval and other tech we don't know about could be used by other heroes. It gives those weapons a human element.
The Rings are the second bangle, split into pieces, so 1) not to alert Kang of the location of his missing weapons, and 2) so their full, quantum, old-timey-wimey powers can't be used, because no one knows how to put it back together.
This theory tracks very well! Too many aesthetic coincidences on a large scale for it to be minor.. I don't think individually Shang-Chi and Kamala are "saviors" but definitely integral components to the multi-verse.
I believe each phase 4 show is individually set in different multiverses, and they will all join forces to fight Kang in secret wars. It will explain why celestials exist in one place and not another.
The fracture and splitting of multiverses began only after Loki went to the TVA, and hence their histories are all very similar, and only their branches differ.
This is the only explanation why we didn't see all the heroes during endgame.
I was confused a little in antman. It made kang to be a mega bad guy but then implied he was working to stop the other kangs from fighting. But then the end credit scene implied he was right, that the council of Kangs were the real threat.
Quantum kang obviously was evil in crushing the quantum inhabitants but maybe he was misunderstood?
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Great video! While watching it and thinking that the Bengal has time traveling powers I started to wonder if the Bengal sent Kamala forward in time so far that she traveled past a restart of the sacred timeline and all the way to 1947 of a restarted timeline ( sort of as if she completed one big lap of a sacred timeline circle) This would explain how she arrived to help her grandma while not remembering or knowing she was the one who guided her back to her family. It may also help explain how her time travel didn’t create a branching reality, thank you for the content that is created at screencrush.
My question to that whole scene at the end of Loki with "He Who Remains" is, What causes the threshold and the timelines to split. It couldn't really have been Silvy killing "He Who Remains", since he mentions the threshold BEFORE she stabs him.
The passing of the threshold is related to Wanda's last spell in WandaWision and Dr Strange's spell in No Way Home. They all sync perfectly.
@@DanieleFisichella But that's just one theory. The scene from No Way Home when Dr. Strange's spell gets messed up by Peter has also been talked about being a reason for it... So, at this point, it could really be anything.
Post credit scene, Kang (Rama-Tut) has a mechanical looking arm. Would this not have been his arm found with the bangle? Also the photo from the comics of Rama-Tut used in this video seems to show brackets or bangle. Little details everywhere!
Plus, Scott Lang and Shang Chi are both from San Francisco. That beacon could be the message that the three superior Kang's sent to other Kang's and while they were doing that the beacon caught that signal. Or, that beacon could be the signal Cassie sent to the Quantum realm and the beacon just happened to be an earthly reflection or representation of it.
Then that would mean that am3 and Shang chi take place at the same time
@@Bruce-my7wk idk maybe antman3 happened during all phase 4 event (i think they've been in quantum realm for a long time and they didnt realize it)
what i was thinking is that shang chi rings was sending message was actually from kang himself because he was sucked into ,and he is not dead yet (maybe) but the shang chi post credit scene might have happened after antman quantum mania
I think the blue hand is kree. Kang's skin isn't blue, just the glass interface over his face
I think The Ancient One, Wenwu, and Aisha are somehow directly related to Kang. The Sanctum Sanctorum's origin was quite the same as that in the Quantum Kingdom of Kang, as well as the Case of the Eye of Agamotto and how it holds the time stone kinda relates to it. Wenwu's rings have already been explained as well as Aisha's bangles. I think the ten rings' extreme capabilities have not yet been discovered. BUT, the thing that makes it all connect is not just that they are all dead, but that they have lived FOR A LONG TIME, that probably they may have met Kang in a moment or worst case, probably knew each other. But Marvel has not yet explained the connection of their movies: Shang Chi, Doctor Strange, as well as the Marvels or Ms. Marvel in particular. Any thoughts?
Interesting theory. Especially when The Ancient One is the person who describes timeline branches to Bruce.
I know Ryan you have said it and Kevin @HeavySpoilers has said it I believe - but this all seems to be leading up to Kang going to the Beyondverse where he will become The Beyonder and maybe he will become He Who Remains and loop back into everything dealing with the Loki series.
Maybe the rings could emit cosmic microwave background radiation (like what was found in WandaVision) and are actually very ancient. Perhaps Kang traveled back through time and discovered them in the past.
It’s just so cool to think that the MCU is on a time-loop (if they continue to stay true to the comics).
I feel like Shang chi will play a major role in kang dynasty
People seem to underestimate how important HE WHO REMAINS is to the MCU
The blue in Ms Marvel is supposed to be Kree who created the inhumans. I suspect that'll connect her closer to Captain Marvel in the origin of their power.
Came here to say this very thing.
I agree with you. I got lost when he said Kang is blue.
very good point since Captain is so involved in her story… I think this is all just a big mess 😭 and if none of it’s connected then it’s just ugly for no reason, I’m becoming such a post-Endgame hater
Man, you are blowing my mind with these Kang videos lately.
Perhaps the Ten Rings are the other Bangle just separated into separate pieces.
Connections are undeniable. Phase 4 was a really good setup phase for 5 and 6 and everything we'll see in the future. Even standalone series such as Moon Knight and Knoshu will make sense when we see them in the Kang Dynasty. Anyways, If we collect all those breadcrumbs piece by piece from movies and series, we might have seen the Skrull version of Kang (from the council of Kangs). He probably came to Earth thousands of years ago and started a cult around him (as much as always he does, like Rama-tut did in ancient Egypt or the Conqurer did in Quantum Realm). So, the people who obeyed this Skrull Kang named the cult "Ten Rings" which was perfect sense because people knew those rings were powerful objects. Then Someone or something attacked the cult and killed everyone with Kang and the cult has been forgotten for a long time until Shang Chi's father Wenvu found the ten rings and saw the flag. Started his own cult. And Clandestines found the bangle then realized that they were able to travel outside their dimensions to another one and vice versa.
Honestly when I saw how the movie ended with Ant-Man in Kang my first thought when he got sucked into the portal and the explosion and whatnot was how it resembled almost exactly how Darren cross "died" in the first Ant-Man, when every found out in this movie Donnelly did not die he was just sent to the quantum realm which again has always been explained as its own individual round outside of time and space below the existing Realms in multiverses. So I immediately said to my wife as we're walking out of the movie is that is how the Dynasty and Secret Wars is going to start because not only did that not kill Kang, all it did was , along with his some of his tech, sent him " down" to and ultimately created a brand new realm basically like the Quantum realm but somehow, and possibly because of the earth Portal being open or having the coordinates to earth 616 saved from Cassie's machine he's been able to connect to and influence how that Multiverse AND timeline has been progressing and also having seen first-hand what Ant-Man as well as this version of The Avengers had done knew they would be his best shot and also a great way to distract the council of kangs, and then also because America Ferrera is the only person in the Multiverse as explained in the last Doctor Strange movie that can travel between the multiverses without causing incursions because she is the only version of yourself there are no other versions of her that exist also why she can't have dreams. So instead of pruning all the timelines like he's been doing, more efficiently by also using the avengers as his "weapons" to destroy the council of Kangs, then once they are all destroyed he could then freely without causing any incursions travel between and CONQUER every remaining timline or just create his one true timeline.
Some people have been claiming there's been no set up for the next avengers. But as you've just shown us, every movie and show has gave us nuggets towards it and its all starting to come together. Marvels too good. Dc could only dream of having such a intertwined cohesive universe
Yup they build up great stories even on not so well received films that’s still pretty decent fun movies.
@@Davefromdabend5 exactly. I personally love everything except she hulk and love and thunder and even they did things like Introduce daredevil
I’m always excited for new videos about MCU from SC
If any artifacts could be sent from one timeline to another, wouldn't it be 'infinity' stones? What makes the rings/bangle that powerful?
Unlike the gauntlet maybe the rings can be used in any universe.
The Infinity gauntlet and the Stones can only be used in the universe it came from.
That's my guess
plot rings trump anything
@@cruzinthruspace this would make sense if these devices are powered by quantum energy as it seems the quantum realm in the MCU appears foundational to the multiverse where as the infinity stones are formed within the individual universes.
I hope they make this clearer in the future so it can make sense all these circles! And maybe add a few more rings so it’s not just 2!
Ummm, the bengals don’t create Kamala’s powers. She’s a mutant, the bengals just activated her own powers. Also, Kang’s not blue in the MCU… his blue is associated with his tech/armor. It’s gotta be a Cree hand. Maybe both artifacts have to do with Kang, but these points are just incorrect 😞
Garrett Limon Kang wasn’t even blue in the comics either lol. It’s ALWAYS just been his face shield that makes him look blue. Idk what he was talking about there lol
@@rileyribble6733 I think the most disappointing part is that Ryan knows these things as he’s acknowledged them in past videos, so why he’s stating incorrect points to justify his theory that’s otherwise definitely possible is strange
These artifacts are from collectors collection he who remain planted them
This seems like a very solid theory. No matter what, this saga is going to be trippy with all of these Kangs.
I think your theory is great!! I've been wondering if there is going to be an upcoming conflict between Kang/Celestials
Wow,
Really amazing theory and prediction, good job
Best theory video since End Game!
This is why I think the Conquerer and He who remains are actually the same Kang
It's a very good theory. Relics from a time, space and universal war scattered from the fallout is very self aware
You are so on point with this Theory. Next to Erik Voss you are my Theory hero
In Simple words-
Kangs time machine rings = Shangchi's rings and also the beacon inside it is from the kang variant trapped in it.
Kangs Time machine's Core = Kamalas bangle bcz the bangles lets the wearer travel through time.
Avengers assembled to protect Maccguffins (Shang-Chi's ten rings & Kamala's bengal)
They embrace incursion, multiversal war, chaos everywhere...they once again do the time travel to defeat Kang's Dark Triad
On the Past
Rama Tut vs Captain America, Moon Knight, the Defenders, Friendly Neighborhood Spider-man
On the Present
Immortus vs Thor, Doctor Strange, mages, gods, interdimensional beings, and supernatural beings
On the Future
Kang who looks like High Evolutionary, Iron Lad, or Scarlet Centurion vs Iron-man & Young Avengers
On the Kang's realm
Council of Kang vs Ant-man family, the Eternals, Captain Marvel, GotG, other intergalactic beings
On Earth 616
Other anti-heroes like Thunderbolts become search and rescue team. They will rise like false messiah.
Avengers will fall in Kang Dynasty but will comeback&rise again in Secret War lead by Fantastic Four
I can see Kang wanting to use the Ten Rings, Bangle, and Man-Thing to rule the Multiverse and of course Shang-Chi, Ms. Marvel, Jack, and Elsa won’t allow that to happen!
My theory is that the Kang that we saw on Quantumania (if his motivation is to create the sacred timeline) will be revealed as He Who Remains after Secret Wars. Since the MCU is on a time loop, then most probably some Kang that we saw on the movie would end up being the one on the citadel.
I think Shang Chi’s post credit scene links to Qauntamania’s post credit scene…
There was a beacon call for the rings… and immortus called for all Kangs across the multiverse to come in to the council meeting… 🤷🏽♂️
The moment he made that movement to warp and return xolem's beam I realized how similar it was to shang's movement when taking the rings
You forgot the Emperor cutscene. “Somehow he survived” in your Kang’s return theory.
I greatly enjoy your videos and your editing skills
I think the core taps and draws power directly from the quantum realm. A more efficient version of Luis' van. The core's also connected to Kang's mind and thoughts so he may be able to travel where ever he imagines. The 10 rings in his possession are probably far more than we know now. Another built in fail safe is they prolong the life of the person that has them. They may also seem older because they were made outside of time and space. Being from beyond, they and the wearer are not affected by time and space. Maybe they allow for direct manipulation of time and space when also linked to the chair and orb. In all his travels and conquering there's probably no doubt Kang came across an Eternal or Celestial yet to be birthed and studied their tech. What it's made from and what powers it.
Love these videos helping explain stuff about this multiverse/timeline travel. Me not too smart. Me preferred simpler story like Infinity Saga. But with the help of these videos, me understand better now. Thanks. 😁
Not the Captain Planet shoutout lol! Love these connections!
Ryan ! You are an absolute Genius! And if your wrong .. Marvel should hire you NOW !
The World engine orb is the soul of the celestials. Go back to Loki last episode look at all the models and you'll see when he shows how two variance were making a world engine, you'll see a globe of the world where India is scooped out
So basically these two variants figured out that if you use the heart or the soul of celestials you can travel through the multiverse. It's right there plain as day when he's explaining it to Sylvie and Loki.
And isn't it weird that the world engine orb and housing looks like the baby gamora in the gondola scene of Infinity War where it reflected in the pool. So basically there's a soul in the center of the machine and it's the celestials.
Good stuff
the ten rings and the bengal. Can't wait for other maccguffins to be revealed!
Love the channel and theories
🔴 Wait, at 8:45 Ryan says that the sacred timeline didn't consist of different universes, but just the 616 and the different dimensions in it, doesn't that contradict what he said in another video? Which was that the sacred timeline was made of all the universes that don't have a Kang variant?
That's how you know Kang liked it.
Rings on everything.
That threshold was reached when Strange cast his spell for Peter, and Wanda became Scarlet Witch..
Just missed the eternals connection since it's obvious the writting in the rings is the same from their ship, so it means its connected to the celestials, beings from the beginning of the universe and most likely the last from the previous one