ARRMA Kraton 6S V5 REVIEW | My Thoughts, Best Upgrades, Kraton v. E-Revo 2.0?

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  • @willabytes
    @willabytes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You're the most unbiased reviewer I've ever seen. No fanboyism to be seen at all. Keep it up!

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I try to be as fair as I can. More reviews are on the way. 😄👍

    • @willabytes
      @willabytes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVC_RC Nice!

    • @3.0colorado21
      @3.0colorado21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, thanks for the legit review. Especially when you’re looking in this price range for a hobby. I wouldn’t be too thrilled dropping $1000 and then having to spend another $500 to upgrade everything.

  • @bobc3144L
    @bobc3144L 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great, to the point, covers all important topics/issues, no BS video. Thank you.

  • @surfside75
    @surfside75 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bought the 4s v2.5 over the 6s as recommended by so many😊. Bought so many aftermarket parts to make it right. Will certainly be buying the 6s at some point❤

  • @DrunkinPunch
    @DrunkinPunch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kraton fan here and still running the v3
    Looks like a v5👌🏻
    Good honest review 👍

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love to hear it! That’s awesome. 👏😎 Thanks.

    • @alemanivan3
      @alemanivan3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How fast have you make it go?

  • @bullitmaget8193
    @bullitmaget8193 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    took my kraton 6s out the other day took an absolute woopin and it wanted more ....love it bought my bro inlaw a notorious 6s and he loves his

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to hear it! Solid trucks. 🤘

  • @elvisvelez6609
    @elvisvelez6609 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video, I have to say that my Kraton 6 wheelies all day out of the box

    • @bobboberton1841
      @bobboberton1841 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I was surprised when it was mentioned it was hard to wheelie as I have a hard time keeping the front wheels on the ground. However this was a great video. My biggest concern is the motor gets very hot. I thought about adding a heatsink/fan but hate to spend the money if there is no need.

  • @mikereese657
    @mikereese657 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got my kraton 6s outta the garbage no transmitter got a new radio and boom been bashing since no clue why or how it ended up in the trash but one mans trash is now my treasure 😅😊

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! What a deal. 😅

  • @AussieRCPlayground
    @AussieRCPlayground 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice review, well done. 😎
    Never had an issue with any of my Kraton diffs, but I have blown out a diff recently on my EXB Kraton due to doing some standing backflips. Not saying shimming them doesn't help, just saying I've never felt that it was necessary. 🤷🏼‍♂️
    Ironically, the old red servos performed better than the current Spektrum ones. Pretty much every ARRMA we sell ends up having the stock servo die within the first couple of runs. Rumor has it that the BEC is set at 7.4v and the servos are only rated to 6v. Which would explain why they die so quickly and so often.
    Anyway, it's good to see a well balanced reviews on these cars. So often I see one sided reviews on socials, so really cool to see a well edited and presented review. 👍

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much Vas! Standing backflips are definitely brutal on diffs. 😅 I completely agree, those ADS-15M servos seemed to be much more reliable. The high BEC setting would definitely make sense, that’s very interesting. I really appreciate it, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! 👊

    • @EXTREMERC416
      @EXTREMERC416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The best thing to do they one if you dont want to mess with diffs ever is to get the hot racing gearbox for the rear diff. Didnt break any diffs yet after a year on my kraton exb and in my notorious who is a few months old(it was converted to exb since day 1 but only the chassis remains stock) the RTR diffs are cheese if you bash hard

  • @dirtbike9003
    @dirtbike9003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the Kraton! Just got the exb for a crazy deal. Max 6 ordered on Black Friday. Gonna be epic!

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That EXB sale has me tempted. Enjoy yours!! 🤘😎

    • @jake4194
      @jake4194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What did you pay for your EXB?

  • @JFK3-1
    @JFK3-1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought one, my first true RC car like this. Mine wheelies like crazy. Especially once I calibrated the throttle. I also calibrated the servo end points.

    • @JFK3-1
      @JFK3-1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought some belted Duratrax tires and it spins hard on pavement. No more wheelies but some drifts now. The Copperhead tires it came with had a nice soft compound but ballooned at high speed. I'm torn.

  • @creekcreeperrc7972
    @creekcreeperrc7972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder why they include a motor fan on the 3s blx models but dropped it for the 6s?? Seems like a no brainer and it’s not like it would cost arrma much.

  • @andytse1005
    @andytse1005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d suggest to tape the inside holes of the tires, if not water gets in, wet foam spins fast will rupture the tire, if taped, all good

    • @Aware_of_myshelf
      @Aware_of_myshelf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All good.

    • @psiturbo
      @psiturbo ปีที่แล้ว

      no, the proper way is to make two to three holes on the outside center of the tires and then block the holes with epoxy, tape will come off eventually when bashing.

  • @mrtambourineman6107
    @mrtambourineman6107 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ideal video for me today, for tommorow i should hopefully receive my Kraton 6s v5

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Congrats, have fun with it! 👏

  • @kaosr.c
    @kaosr.c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love kratons , i have the v4 and exb and they have never let me down . Good video mate .

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching! The Kraton is a great platform. 😎

    • @kaosr.c
      @kaosr.c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVC_RC they take a good beating !

  • @RedwolfTalk
    @RedwolfTalk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reasons I just pair the vehicles I run the most to my DX5 Rugged. Have had issues with stock radios in the past.

  • @yonicozac
    @yonicozac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great edit! loved this review!

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much, happy to hear that you loved it! 👊😎

  • @timvanasen6711
    @timvanasen6711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My wife & l love our 2 6s blx exb rollers I put the hobbywing max8 esc and 2200kv motors, incredibly tough and fast rigs great informative video thank's Garrett 😉👍

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice setup Tim! 👏 I was thinking about trying the EXB version since it’s on sale right now, looks like a beast. 😄

    • @timvanasen6711
      @timvanasen6711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVC_RC it's a real beast eventually I'll upgrade the foams still the same as V5 😉👍

  • @leviperrine
    @leviperrine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anyone know of a battery tray upgrade that does NOT use straps? I hate the straps. Thinking about 3-D printing some kind of adjustable brace or enclosure. Is there something already out there?

  • @LawrenceTimme
    @LawrenceTimme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. Covered everything I needed to know

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to hear it! Thanks so much. 👊

  • @aggos1
    @aggos1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video ! Getting my first Kraton in few days ! Going to quite the distance to get it also since it's no hobby store that sells it in my country !
    New to the hobby and I have been soaking up your video's to get more integrated. And actually this was the video that "sold" me the Kraton.
    Also love your Snow videos ! And since I live in Iceland they have come in quite handy !
    Look forward to learn more from you as I grow into the hobby ! Thx !!!

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Congrats! Have fun with your Kraton, it’s a great vehicle. Glad to hear that you’ve been enjoying the videos! 👊😄

    • @aggos1
      @aggos1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVC_RC Thx ! Any thoughts on to run the Kraton on two 3s or 6s ?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aggos1 I’d recommend a single 6s pack. They are easier to work with from my experience. 😄

    • @aggos1
      @aggos1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVC_RC ok ! Thx again !!

  • @mrtambourineman6107
    @mrtambourineman6107 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im a self confessed Arrma fan boy - but i also admit the Arrma Kraton is by far the better vehicle, on 6s, or on 4s as i run mine for safety issues etc

  • @scottiesguitarimprovs3729
    @scottiesguitarimprovs3729 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my kraton was shimmed perfectly...i couldnt put another shim in them..i'll check again after a few packs have been run threw it.

  • @bentravis99
    @bentravis99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thank you!

  • @alfiek8092
    @alfiek8092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Concreted my decision. Cheers bud

  • @bobbywingate711
    @bobbywingate711 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a kraton V5 and I enjoy it

  • @LVC_RC
    @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Any Kraton fans out there?
    Grab an ARRMA Kraton here! (affiliate link) ▷ bit.ly/35KpgFT

    • @rccrew4932
      @rccrew4932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll stay quiet 🙃😜.
      Anyways very honest review 🙌🏼.

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rccrew4932 😂😜 Thanks!

    • @norcalrc
      @norcalrc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell yeah bro. Love the Kraton, 1st RC that begged me to bash it

    • @nitinjadhav4175
      @nitinjadhav4175 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeap! We are here 😎

    • @Anton-gz1go
      @Anton-gz1go 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesss! I got an exb last week

  • @paulrakis
    @paulrakis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    def invest to a RPM bumper and fans are a must if your running her hard like myself

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! 🤘😎

  • @CoachD386
    @CoachD386 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    💪🏾💯🔥 Yessssir let’s get it

  • @mr.davidson3314
    @mr.davidson3314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t understand why people have a hard time to make their kraton wheely all my kraton does is want to wheely and it’s stock I do have trenchers on but it will actually do a backflip from a stAnd still.

    • @darrenjames1026
      @darrenjames1026 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most people use a sponge or ear buds on there diffs so then it don't wheelie , they think it's good for them lol you just lose power doing it

  • @rovidbouski4022
    @rovidbouski4022 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have no idea what you were talking About because my kraton 6s Is a wheelie monster

  • @travisruff7132
    @travisruff7132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, i luv mine 👍🏾

  • @EXTREMERC416
    @EXTREMERC416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get rid of the safe D pinion. Makes ur truck sounds like a lawnmower. Idk why just replace it with a robinson racing one.

  • @bryanspanjer3213
    @bryanspanjer3213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video quality and content

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Bryan! 👊

  • @zerrickdracing6784
    @zerrickdracing6784 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tires don't break down as fast when you vent the tires

  • @justinturner4327
    @justinturner4327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @LVC RC Great review and just subscribed! Looking at getting an RC Truggy/Buggy to take on woodland walks with me ( won't be going to any skateboard parks and sending into space ) and have been looking at the Kraton, but also the Talion and the Typhon. Which would say would be the best for this ? Only 1 point to make is I have very little experience at maintaining RC cars but have seen a lot of useful vids on TH-cam to help me on the way if needed. Any advice would be much appreciated 👍✌

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I appreciate you subscribing. The Kraton, Talion, and Typhon should all work well for what you’re looking to do. I prefer the Kraton because it has larger tires and does better off road, but it’s all personal preference since they’re pretty similar vehicles. 😄👍

  • @Hungrybird474
    @Hungrybird474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got the 4s batteries for this today and she rips . Is there much a difference with 6s ? My receiver held good today and also impressed me as I’ve had others cut out and it’s annoying . All I did was drive around the infield and outfield running the bases and some full throttle . She got hot as expected with a 4s . The grass wasn’t super high . These should come with a fan or two for the motor imho . They all should at least come with one .

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice! Yes, there is a noticeable difference with 6S vs 4S. 👍

  • @johngantner9314
    @johngantner9314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so if i had the money would i buy the Losi DB Pro of the V5 6s Kraton?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Losi DB Pro will handle better on flat ground, but the Kraton will be better at flips and getting over rough terrain. I prefer monster trucks like the Kraton, but it is ultimately up to you. 😄👍

  • @TheflyingkiwiRC
    @TheflyingkiwiRC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First 💪 Love the review bro and 🔥😎

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ayyy 🎉🎊 Thank you! 👊😎

  • @strhhswgter
    @strhhswgter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im gonna get a Kraton but I cant decide which one. Should I get the base 6S or the EXB?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unless you plan to drive the truck super hard, you should be able to get by with the regular 6S version. I’ve had mine for years and haven’t felt the need to upgrade. 👍 Either way, have fun with it! The Kraton is an excellent truck.

  • @dylanwhite6539
    @dylanwhite6539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or, Wild idea, actually make the diffs a appropriate size so they don’t need shims

    • @user-rl7lt7jy2o
      @user-rl7lt7jy2o 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What happens when you don’t shim them?

  • @Tinyfoxfluff
    @Tinyfoxfluff 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:29 change the punch

  • @OneWayKick
    @OneWayKick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Other than adding shims, do you recommend any other out of box differential adjustables. I have seen people talk about topping and changing the fluid.

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It definitely never hurts to check and top off the diff fluids. 😄 The rest is typically personal preference. I added thicker fluid in the center diff of mine to make wheelies easier. 👍

  • @tittentei7331
    @tittentei7331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey. I bought this for a week ago. But when i drive, after 2-3 min the tire will not turn sometimes. So i am afraid to drive fast becouse sudently it will not turn to the side i want. I most use the throotle again and then i can turn again. I have a dx3 transmitter. will it help to bind that transmitter to the car? Or is it the receiver that is broken somehow? Sorry my english.

    • @tittentei7331
      @tittentei7331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nobody that can help me?

    • @jake4194
      @jake4194 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe the servo is going bad?

    • @tittentei7331
      @tittentei7331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jake4194 Hey.Yes i think that too. or maybe losse wired? It was like this when i got it. I have used it about 30-40 min. It can happen when it stand still too 20 sec after i turn the car on. But then again i can drive 5 min without have any issue?? haha.. i had a similar thing with my granite. And that was becouse of as loose wire, So i hop it is that now to.But i think i send it back on rep!

  • @t3floz
    @t3floz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello man! How has it been holding up durability wise now 2 years later?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@t3floz Hey! It’s been holding up well. I’ve upgraded to the EXB front bumper and a Pro-Line Racing Bash Armor body, but besides that I’ve kept it about the same as it was in this video. 👍

    • @t3floz
      @t3floz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LVC_RC ah okay! I can get it for about 550 dollars here rn and it’s cheap in comparison to other trucks. Just worried about the chassi breaking and the diffs because they are expensive here

  • @rodger5245
    @rodger5245 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I’m new to RC cars had a few in the 90s but nothing as good and powerful as my new kraton 6s v5 first run out of the box tapped 1 kerbstone and the rear hub exploded I have watched loads of videos on here and you guys give them hell do you upgrade the hubs out of the box or did I just have bad luck with my car changed my hubs for metal ones now just waiting to see what breaks next

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry to hear that. I haven't seen many people having issues with the hubs exploding, so I'm thinking it might've just been bad luck hopefully.

  • @pondering4fishscale462
    @pondering4fishscale462 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I blew my center diff doing wheelies the 2nd day I had it 😔running it on 100

  • @robertb.4202
    @robertb.4202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this worth buying over the EXB?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve been running this RTR version hard and haven’t felt the need to upgrade to an EXB. The EXB's upgrades are definitely nice for added reassurance, but they aren't required for what most people are doing with these vehicles in my opinion. 👍 I would say the RTR is the better buy.

  • @itsmeericbrc4453
    @itsmeericbrc4453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! 👏 What wt diff oil do you recommend for the center diff? 500k or 1mil or higher? What about the front and rear diffs? They are 10k out of the box, so would 20 or 30k hurt?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! 😄 I run 500K in the center to make wheelies a little easier. I haven’t felt the need to go thicker in the front or rear, but switching to 20K-30K definitely wouldn’t hurt. 👍

    • @itsmeericbrc4453
      @itsmeericbrc4453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVC_RC awesome thanks! Would you do heavier in the front over the rear?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@itsmeericbrc4453 Yep! Heavier in front and lighter in the rear.

    • @itsmeericbrc4453
      @itsmeericbrc4453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVC_RC thanks again!

  • @Hungrybird474
    @Hungrybird474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you get the exb bumper or wheelie bar

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The only EXB part I upgraded to was the front bumper.

  • @calebgrefe8922
    @calebgrefe8922 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does a truck of this style compare to something like a udr?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  ปีที่แล้ว

      The UDR is designed more for scale driving and small jumps while the Kraton is able to handle harder bashing.

  • @mmig2116
    @mmig2116 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the kraton but rite out of the box my servo started to make noise an had to replace it ! Shame for the money they cost !

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry to hear that. Hopefully we see the servo reliability improve in future versions.

    • @ryanbetancourt583
      @ryanbetancourt583 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what servo did you replace it with im new to the rc world and i already dont like the sterring .

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryanbetancourt583
      Any decent Spektrum servo is a drop-in replacement. Anything with over 300 oz/in of torque will be sufficient, but also look for something with a speed of .15s/60deg or lower. Other brands will work but you'll need to get the appropriate servo horn to match the servo, as different brands have different splines.

  • @stever8595
    @stever8595 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the motor or esc get hot on 6s?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The motor gets hot during the summer. I usually have to stop once or twice during a run for a couple of minutes for it to cool down.

  • @codyviera92
    @codyviera92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kraton or notorious?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I prefer the Notorious because I enjoy stunts. 👍 The Kraton is a great all-around basher though.

  • @villalba3420
    @villalba3420 ปีที่แล้ว

    This or Typhon?

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on what you plan to do with it. The Kraton is more capable when it comes to stunts and driving offroad, but the Typhon handles better. I prefer the Kraton, but they're both great vehicles.

    • @villalba3420
      @villalba3420 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVC_RC thanks

  • @carstoniu
    @carstoniu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    woah your chassis is so blue...

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite a bit of wear. 😅

  • @kazpa58
    @kazpa58 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is 400 dollars a good deal for one 🤔

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s hard to say without seeing it, but if it’s fully functional and you feel the condition is good, $400 seems like a pretty solid deal.

  • @willabytes
    @willabytes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you change your name? :)

    • @LVC_RC
      @LVC_RC  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn’t have common law trademark rights to the old name and the website domain was already taken. In order to continue growing, I had to rebrand. 👍

    • @willabytes
      @willabytes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LVC_RC Ah gotcha. Thanks for explaining!

  • @dylanwhite6539
    @dylanwhite6539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really want to like arrma but I know the way I drive, I’ll taco a 6s or the diffs will shred. Erevo really puts the kraton driveline to shame, and honestly I haven’t noticed much durability wise. I did break one of the pushrods but that’s been it. No limit straps, no extra droop prevention, no super expensive anything. Even still using the plastic rear brace as it seems to hold up better than the aluminum one. Seems like my next move is the sledge.

  • @tinaokeeffe8337
    @tinaokeeffe8337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did u just call them dog bones they are obviously wishbones bruhhhh

  • @doktordrift948
    @doktordrift948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is bullshit! Wtf?? I crash my V4 6S into a soft, wet, round garden bed at a very moderate speed and i rip half the front end off (brand.new.Kraton :(....) yet these guys can flip it up a ramp 3 metres into the air @ 30mph, land it on the back corner (ON CONCRETE!!) and drive away.....

    • @MLZDesigns
      @MLZDesigns 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Skill issue 😂

    • @doktordrift948
      @doktordrift948 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MLZDesigns lol fuck me this was a minute ago now but it's all coming back to me! Yah there was a skill issue - i didn't slow down enough and turn away from the inanimate object whoops haha, but damn, i still don't understand it from an engineering POV. It was so slow and soft and just fucking RIPPED the shockie mounts off, bent the swingarm and it's pin. Must have just been the way it caught 1 front wheel only and put all the pressure on the 2 or 3 points. I rebuilt it back then, did some nice upgrades and drove it once since lol. Rest assured, she'll get bashed eventually. Still as new atm.