I never understood why the Ecoboost got so much hate. $30k for a 300+ hp & torque car brand new is a great deal in today’s market. Sure, the GT is more powerful and sounds amazing but not everyone wants to spend 50k+ on a depreciating muscle car. For me, I’ll be going with the GT just because it might be the last V8 generation but I also understand the appeal of the Ecoboost. Especially for younger buyers who are getting their first sports car.
I used to own a 2016 2.3L with the 6sp, and it was a great car. Quick enough to be fun, got 22mpg if I drove it hard, and got 32mpg on the HWY. And around town, it actually feels quicker than the V8 because of the torque coming in at a low RPM. The 2.3 also handles better due to being lighter up front. And yes, I have driven both to compare them. And with it being over $10K more for the GT over the 2.3, its a valid option. EDIT: Just saw the 2.3 is auto only. Which makes it a non-option :(
@@macbook802 I have owned V8s, including a 65. Is because the coyote has to be rev'ed out to get torque. The 2.3 has peak torque at low RPM. The coyote is certainly faster in pretty much every other scenario.
I Set the temperature for each front seat passenger and use automatic. I've never had an issue including my heated and cooled seats. I like the modern style with less knobs. It sounds like you own a newer vehicle with on screen settings. I'm curious what issues you're having
@@DWH300 Honestly I hate the way they did the interior, and these modern oem infotainments that aren't designed to be removed are so dumb. Makes it a PITA if you want put in a new system in your car. Just my .02, but sports should keep it simple, classy, and analog like the new BRZ/86 interior is perfect. Keep all the fancy stuff to luxury cars that give you the best of the best anyway.
No they didn't. There are a ton of people who buy mustangs, Camaros, and challengers for the looks, and nothing else. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Many of these people, the overwhelming majority, go with the auto. The manual really only appeals to diehard enthusiasts. Surprise surprise, most diehard enthusiasts go with the v8 anyway. The decision to offer fewer options and reduce manufacturing complexity by ditching Ecoboost manuals almost certainly saved Ford millions of dollars. Decisions like that are what allows Ford to still offer a 330 hp rwd sports car for a starting price comparable to a family sedan. As car enthusiasts, we want everything in the world for virtually no money, but that's just not how the industry works. We need to realize all car companies make difficult decisions, but at the end of the day, are trying to give us the best products they can.
@@themidnighttavern6784No additional cost bud. Your argument makes no sense. Manufacturers have turned despotic, attempting to control the customer versus being supple and controlled by the public. Well this will backfire as usual.
@@jamesmedina2062 Not to be rude, but you don't seem to know about the product development. The cost to engineer and design this new mustang was about $500 million. It literally costs millions of dollars to make a single metal press for a front left fender good sir. Car development is insanely expensive. It may seem simple to just bolt an existing transmission onto an engine, but it's not that straightforward. You have to develop, tweak, test, tweak again, certify, and tweak again to do something that small. So yes, it would have added millions of dollars of extra cost to the program to do that.
A local Ford dealer was gracious enough and allowed me to drive the GT Premium for 24 hours and the Ecoboost Premium HPP for 24 hours. I kept the Ecoboost. The HPP add-on made the Ecoboost feel more planted than the GT. Also, the brakes on the Ecoboost felt better. The GT sure sounds great and it has good power, but the GT needs to be driven hard in order to feel the power. The Ecoboost is lighter and turbo so it was rather zippy. The deciding factor was MPGs. The GT was gave me an average of 17 MPGs, while the Ecbooost gave me an average of 25 MPGs. I already have a STI that makes 600+ whp so I don’t need another gas guzzler. Last, I like the more subtle look of the Ecoboost than the “hey look at me” approach of the GT. The Ecoboost I got was priced at $41k while the GT $51k.
@@neuspeed79since the HPP has the 3.55 rear gears does the low end torque feel substantial? I heard as low as 4.5sec(0-60) what’s your experience been?
@@sammyjammy6647 The ecoboost is definitely impressive! It has a good amount of torque too! The car is more responsive when driven in either track or drag mode.
Went back to this video after my girlfriend decided that the v8 was just too much motor for her (and it is, for her)... but she ended up purchasing the Ecoboost Premium with the Performance Package. I am actually shocked by how good this car really is. Yes, I get it, the v8 is faster (by a large margin thru the 1/4 mile), but the Ecoboost with the Performance Package will flat out shame many 'performance' cars 0-60 from the not too distant past. On a road course (vs a drag strip) where pure acceleration is only part of the equation, it has the potential to be really quick... and the minimum 10g's that you save pays for a lot of sticky tire and maybe some track time, not to mention the lower insurance cost and crazy gas mileage (was seeing over 35 mpg at 65 mph). So while personally, I love the idea of having a $70k loaded Dark Horse with 500 HP, the $41k Ecoboost Premium with the Performance Package ticks a lot of boxes for almost 1/2 the price. Actually drive one and see why this might be the best bargain in the lineup. Tommy is often wrong, but Ford knocked it out of the park with the Ecoboost Premium Performance Package Mustang.
Insurance is a major concern. Mine increased by 50% last year. Most others have had the same experience it would seem. As for handling, turbo 4 is much better! The V8 is a nose diving pig.
@@jamesballard6564 You couldn't be more wrong I went from a 2022 dodge charger RT to a 2024 mustang GT and my insurance was twenty bucks cheaper and the four-cylinder handling better is straight nonsense have you drove either? Nose diving pig these cars at most are a hundred pounds heavier and they absolutely do not nosedive it is the best handling car I've ever drove also I had a 2015 mustang GT and they are night and day different.
Yeah , I d go for the V8 , just sounds sooo much better. I still think there is less wear on the v8 than the 2.3 turbo. It’s not a Big v8 right 5.0 maybe which is the old 302 great engine.
@@jamesmedina2062don’t try to argue with these v8 guys they don’t hear you 😂 the sound of the car matters more to them than any one go the other specs. A quiet car run circles around a v8 and they would still choose the v8 because it makes loud noises
Great review and perspective on the 4 cyl Mustang Tommy. I agree that its more budget friendly and it opens options for having a second vehicle. One thing I notice in this video that looks super cheap is the center dedicate buttons next to the stop start button. That whole panel moves and I can only imagine the contact points behind it will fail. Terrible design. Ford also seems to be the leader in ugly engine bays with harness, hoses, and wires running all over the place. They could learn something from Dodge for sure. I agree they missed offering up a manual. It would cool to see them to a "SVO" version tribute special edition. I would like a Dark Horse but not willing to blow 65-70K on it, there are so many other better choices for that money.
I have a 24 GT Coyote with a manual transmission. All the right packages and 3.73 gears. In just one month of ownership, I already can’t get another race. Even from other Mustangs. Word gets around fast. That’s called RESPECT! By the way, I am Digger Dan, King of the 1/4 Mile.
Really? I mean, really? 486 bhp and 3800 lbs? Don't get me wrong, I like the car. I'm actually thinking about getting the 2025 with performance pack instead pof springing for a C8 Corvette, but it's not that fast without forced induction.
Yes they should make an ultralight one with advanced hybrid 4. But alas this is Ford dragging their feet, not advancing. Typical short-sighted US leadership.
Torque is not really that fun in a performance car, in your daily driver appliance it is great. Torque is what you feel when you leave a stop light, horsepower is what you feel when you wind it out. The current trend of tons of torque at 3000rpm and running out of steam around 5500rpm just isn’t satisfying like a surge of power at 5000rpm that doesn’t give up until 7500rpm plus.
Most people buy these cars because they want go fast in a straight line. Torque is what these cars are all about. Most are really ever gonna get the chance to wind it out a Coyote outside of the occasional highway pull. You would be better of getting a MX-5 or a 86 if you want be winding out a engine more on the streets.
@@DragonKnightX12 if you want to go fast in a strait line get an EV, turbos and automatics are watering down the only thing that makes internal combustion relevant.
@@spcneary Might as well. The Mustang is now more of a boat than the Model 3 Performance. The GT is over 4000lbs. EVa are basically just the new muscle cars. I would disagree. Turbos have allowed small engines to make more power than what V8s did just 10 years ago. The combo of turbos and good autos like DCTs allow combustion cars like the Audi RS3, C8 Corvette, or Porsche 911 Turbo S too keep up with EV acceleration, and still be glide through corners.
Good review. In 2020 I decided time for a new Mustang and went looking for a GT but in the end bought an Eco Premium, well-optioned, $27K out the door with aged inventory incentive and a few other discounts. I still prefer the V-8, but it as little as I drive, mostly around town, the four bang Pony suits my needs just fine. It has the active exhaust so helps a bit with the sound, but of course there is no comparison. My real concern is how that little engine will age, so I do what I can to care for it.
@@Tegridynews Yep, the Fox bodies were light! I kinda wish they would make smaller, lighter cars again. A modern ecoboost engine in a fox body would be interesting.
I like the cleaner look of the ecoboost! The v8 sounds amazing but the ecoboost handles better. Less weight on the front end means lighter on its feet!
At this point in time the 4-cylinder is like putting a trolling motor on a yacht. continually putting in a 4-cylinder regardless of its four five six seven thousand pounds there's no cut-off limit to a 4 cylinder is pointless. If you are trying to actual save gas you would lighten the load
Well the reason they haven’t put the eco v6 in is because it would out perform the stock v8. They have to stick with the 4 to keep cost down and meet emissions.
People have been saying he has transformed over night to be just like his dad. That would explain the nonsense that was brought up here. The against the logical argument of which is better for the money. Totally opposite of what his dad would choose that is for sure! Makes no sense. When it is time to be practical, his dad is off his rocker and Tommy has got it figured out. But this is not about being practical. Ford has other products for putting around quietly and being boring. lol
@@Dirtay427 no dealer mark up on GT's i just ordered mine 2 weeks ago... if a dealer trys to mark up a gt leave... my build date is september 25th ill probably be driving it in october... now a dark horse yeah your hosed they are going to mark it up every dealer only got 2 allocations good luck getting one of those...
RECARO really should spec seats with adjustable side bolsters to allow for more torso sizes....A lot more people would option them if that were available. LOVE the Drift Mode!!!
I have found good lumbar to be universal but the thigh support and lower side bolsters could use some adjustment. It would not even cost that much to create a screw that alters the angle of the side bolsters. The problem is the nervous pencil pusher managers. The engineering being least of concerns.
@@jamesmedina2062the Recaro seats are for track use keeping you in place. Otherwise you slide left and right. Unfortunately they don't fit everyone. I found The new S650 Recaro seats better fitting that the previous ones in the S550. Personally. I like the premium sport buckets that are heated, Cooled, powered and do a good job keeping you in place, plus more comfortable than Recaro seats.
@@ericrodriguez1835 LoL the Recaro has a very neutral size. The OP can buy either an SUV or a grandtourer and it wouldn’t make any difference seatwise.
I own a 1966 and 2016 Mustang, powered with V8's and I like driving both as they are so different. I think Ford have lost the 'Mustang touch' by altering the dash board away from the iconic double hip. That is quite unique and going to the modern look as they are calling it has taken the focus off the Mustang look. That's my view anyway. Cheers Ian - New Zealand.
They should have brought back a V6 and ditched the 4 banger....but such is life...they could have at least kept the manual transmission......it is a joke that they gor rid of it. I would never buy a vehicle without a manual transmission.
As an aspiring designer, I can safely say, the two cars really look nothing alike. Literally the only area that looks even remotely similar is the quarter panel. But that's just because the mustang and Camaro are both calling back to their original 60s designs that both had those flared out rear fenders. Flared fenders generally look pretty similar, not much you can do about it.
I love people shitting on the 2.3 Mustang but I live in shitty Italy where if I get the V8 I have to pay €5000 ($5424) per year just for owning it plus 2€/liter of fuel. So it's either this or a Golf GTI. Guess wich one I'm gonna pick...
The v8 is the soul of the mustang. Even though the emissions tuning has seriously neutered the throttle blip snort sound. It sounds like both the turbo 4 and the v8 get throttle delay initial step in and throttle hang on lift off. I also think the double hump dash is part of the soul of the mustang, but the fad right now is giant wide flat screen dash boards. The sweep curve of the front fender lines on the new mustang is just wrong. It looks frumpy sedan instead of sleek sports/performance car.
Going to a different dash layout on the new mustang is a negative. The average Mustang driver wants the look of the old analog gauges . No one wants to be in the driver seat and feel like your at your desktop computer screen!
I can’t believe it will be the last V8 Mustang. Probably a marketing ploy. They already lowered the price of the F150 Lightning, the 4cyl sounds like crap I rather just get a japanese car if I’m getting a 4cyl.
A few observations regarding your comments. First the S550 interior was getting blasted for it's dated interior which was part of the reason for the drop in S550 sales. You mentioned the manual transmission missing in the EcoBoost. Maybe you should have ask Jim Owens the number of orders placed for the manual transmission in the S650. If I can remember the number correctly. The manual transmission was around 20% of orders placed versus the 10 speed automatic which included the Dark Horse. Think about your question regarding the Foxbody gauges. The Foxbody Mustangs is becoming very popular with a big jump in their pricing plus it's the 1st 5.0 performance GT that started the return of the muscle cars after the late 60s when the gas shortage ended the muscle cars. By the way. You set a record for the shortest interview with the very informative Jim Owens. Maybe it has something to do with the type of questions you were asking like "Why the Fox Body gauges". You have the head of the Mustang program and you ask that question instead of asking him about the new Gen 4 Coyote and EcoBoost. Then your reasoning for buying an EcoBoost versus a GT. That's why Ford is offering the EcoBoost, GT and Dark Horse. So you have a choice that fits your budget. My issue is I like performance and the amazing sound of the new Gen 4 Coyote S650 GT and Dark Horse.
I'd would've rather Ford put in a inline 6 than a inline 4 in a mustang . The 2.3 is a great performing motor in its own right. But if that inline 6 was on par with like the new Hurricanes from Dodge it might cannibalize sales from the coyote. And I'm more of a inline 6 fan than a v6.
Because they can still sell a V8, supercharged Coyote would wreck the big Hurricane. The Hurricanes are made too replace the Hemis, which Ford already has the HO 3.5L twin-turbo V6 from the F-150 Raptor and GT if they need to drop the V8. I'm surprised Ford didn't bump up too their 2.7L turbo V6 instead of the 4-cyl, or at least make it a option. But I guess that would be steeping on the Coyote's toes too.
I’m a V8 guy but I do have to give Ford props for adding the 2.3L when they did. It’s a great throwback displacement from the SVO Mustang. I would rock on SVO Mustang with the current 2.3L. My wife’s Explorer has the 2.3L and I’m very impressed with the power and economy of that engine in her SUV.
@@txvet7738 the problem with the older 2.3s was blowing up and spitting out the head gaskets. They also have a problem with carbon build up in the engine because of direct injection. Hopefully yours lasts forever!
23 GT owner here, as many others are saying you probably won't be able to get a V8 anymore before too long. My GT is not my daily driver and after 8 months I've only put 1600 miles on it (I'm a homebody) and I say all this to emphasize the fact that I do NOT regret buying my horse at all. I'm smiling the entire time I drive it, every time I drive it. Unfortunately I live in an extremely heavy traffic area so it's a pain in the ass having to constantly shift gears, but going out for a bit of a countryside drive is absolutely beautiful. My civic sounds angrier than these ecoboosts. If it's all you are able to afford and you simply must have a mustang, more power to you and I wish you the best. If you're in the market for it and can manage a bigger purchase in the GT, I fully recommend it. I did not like the '24 and factory ordered my '23. I'm certain there will be plenty around on the lots if you feel the same. Good luck friends!
Yea, I want a 4 cylinder that has to have tons of engine wearing boost to make horsepower, all while sounding like an angry bee. Or, I could just get a proper tried and true V8 and smile all day listening to that wonderful V8 sound.
I eagerly anticipated the 2024 Mustang and wanted very much to like it. But sadly I just can’t like it. I’m disappointed with the folded paper exterior styling and the chunky front end. The 2023 is much better looking. But I’m really disheartened with what they did to the dashboard-it looks like a Kia with stretched out iPads tacked onto the dash instead of a proper and nicely sporty instrument binnacle. This is a car for the adolescent video gamer generation. Infotainment systems are ruining car interiors. And then to make it all worse they discontinued the manual transmission on the Ecoboost. What a massive disappointment.
Man. That v8 sounds awesome. No way I could buy a 4 banger over that….can’t even believe you’d suggest that…..might have to pull your man card for that!
I tell you what, the interior is not mustang at all, its all just this day and age's "ipad glued to the dash" and going away from the double hump design was a stupid bullcrap way out, dont get me wrong on the outside its starting to grow on me, i do think its a bit over styled and sharp and the tail lights need work but otherwise its pretty good, on the interior they need to put more hours into it, it doesnt even have a sun shield over the dashboard Ipad, and i need my buttons, i like my physical buttons i can push, it may not be a nessesity but yk what, they dont have me sold, until they fix the little things ill stick with my 2020
No eco boost for me 5.0 aka a real mustang all the whining about the fox body cluster 1 the people who owned or own a fox body now have the cash to buy the s650 2 the fox body was a great bang for the buck back in the day 3 millennials will never get it
The rule is: there is no replacement for displacement, period. The V8 will be worth far more in the future. Give me a 4.6 V8 or the 4.0 V6. Simple good horsepower and very tunable. The EGR makes a more reliable motor? No thanks!
"And why you may want to skip the mighty 5L GT, and opt for the 2.3L Turbocharged 4-cylinder Ecoboost instead." As Steve once said: No, I don't think I will.
Beautiful new design for the ‘stang! This turbo is interesting but the 5.0 is the one to get hands down. Extremely excited for Ford’s return to GT3 next year!!
I test drove a new '20 Ecoboost and it was fairly quick. My plan was to dump the $8k savings over the GT into the car and make a GT slayer. That was the plan, until I drove it. I just couldn't deal with the lack of V8 rumble. I owned a '14 F150 with the 5.0 at the time. I tried to make myself do it, I just couldn't.
I hate it when people tell me to do or not to do something, like they think they know me! The more they tell me not to buy something, the more I find myself wanting to buy it, and dammit! I want a V8!
Then buy it no one’s stopping you but not everyone wants to pay a extra 10 grand for a car so they’re pushing the other options for people who don’t wanna spend that much. If you want a v8 got buy one 😂 you weren’t the target demographic of this video
Little misleading with torque comment. Horsepower absolutely matters in these cars cause people get them to accelerate fast. Think in terms of a semi, torque=how much weight it can move, horsepower= how fast it can move it. For the person how night be a little confused between the two.
Tommy, you and Andrea have become my favorite people to listen to. Keep up the good work I like the new mustang. The only thing I would really love to see is a GT 500 all wheel drive that would put him in a whole new league.
Sounds like they know buyers will pay more for a particular vehicle even though it may not actually cost the service department more. Looks like the 2.3 Ecoboost has a 6 quart capacity while the 5.0 has a 10 quart, so even if the oil was more expensive, it's still 4 quarts less.
I'll keep my 2004 mystic chrome convertible cobra. Completely original 36,000 miles. My A/C works twist it. My exhausts is fairly quiet which is great. Matching leather color as exterior.
There are always some jackasses in the comment section that tell us how they’re going to keep driving their old Mustang, and snub their nose at the latest and greatest.
thats pretty dumb though... you have to have more hp and torque in v8 otherwise its a dumb decision. you'll have more weight, worse fuel economy etc. weight through corners etc. etc. etc. V8 must be much more powerful otherwise its the ol girlfriend keeps returning to her abusive bf syndrome... doesn't make sense to anyone other than the girl who says he smells nice lol
@@fortheloveofnoise $20K is a bit cheap; I do agree that if they had a 6-speed manual option for around $28-30K I’d think about it. I love my 2018 ecoboost, performance and appearance-wise it beats the S650 IMHO.
@@macbook802it's not that, they have to ship it and they have a much smaller margin because they WAAAAY mark up the V8 Mustang in Europe.....they got rid of it in Europe the same reason why they gave up their best selling car, the Fiesta....Ford is greedy and wants higher margins and does not want to service the "poor" customer
It’s easy for you guys to push buying turbos when you only drive them brand new with less than 10,000 miles on them. Try and keep one for 200k miles, you won’t be recommending turbo over v8 anymore
Impressive work on the 4cyl, but it does sound like a hot hatch. I love hot hatches, but if I'm in the market for a Mustang, I'd go for the V8.
Mustang = V8 = Mustang
Their are all kind of options in the non-V8 realm, have to have the V8 in the pony.
2.3 is a fantastic engine. Too bad Ford discontinued their hatchbacks.
But if the car is a big 2-door coupe, a v8 is the perfect partner for it.
But why? Tell me why
I never understood why the Ecoboost got so much hate. $30k for a 300+ hp & torque car brand new is a great deal in today’s market. Sure, the GT is more powerful and sounds amazing but not everyone wants to spend 50k+ on a depreciating muscle car.
For me, I’ll be going with the GT just because it might be the last V8 generation but I also understand the appeal of the Ecoboost. Especially for younger buyers who are getting their first sports car.
My 2003 mustang gt was rated at 260hp…couldn’t imagine getting out run by a 4 cyl. Lol. But it is old tech in the 2003
Why did it suddenly became $20k difference on your statement?
The base GT is just $10k more expensive.
In the late 80's the Cobra GT had a wopping 225 hp. My 05 Escape has 225hp
@@jpogigtxcr1778he may have clicked a few of them option buttons...you know active exhaust, performance pack,10r80 etc...
definelty wont be the last generation, why come out with this brand new style if so?
I used to own a 2016 2.3L with the 6sp, and it was a great car. Quick enough to be fun, got 22mpg if I drove it hard, and got 32mpg on the HWY. And around town, it actually feels quicker than the V8 because of the torque coming in at a low RPM. The 2.3 also handles better due to being lighter up front. And yes, I have driven both to compare them. And with it being over $10K more for the GT over the 2.3, its a valid option. EDIT: Just saw the 2.3 is auto only. Which makes it a non-option :(
It’s automatic for me only so I’m not gonna complain. Lol. And if I’m spending 50 K on a mustang GT that thing better row its own damn gears.
It felt quicker than the v8 because you didn't have a v8 mustang. It's a mindset thing
@@macbook802 I have owned V8s, including a 65. Is because the coyote has to be rev'ed out to get torque. The 2.3 has peak torque at low RPM. The coyote is certainly faster in pretty much every other scenario.
Haveing driven both I agree… but I’d still take that v8
@@jjsly-fm4iu Oh, I would too if price was not an issue. But the GT being 10-11K more (depending on trim) than the EcoBoost is a lot.
Appreciate the explanation...but if you can afford the V8, you buy the V8. Period.
Has nothing to do with money, there are people that have more than enough to buy the v8 but opt for the ecoboost.
I’m thinking about getting the ecoboost. The only thing a v8 is going to impress is other men. And I don’t like penis lol.
Agreed, yup, getting a mustang, you get the V8, you can't afford the V8? You save the extra cash and GET THE V8.
@@christianflex4all why are you buying a car to impress anyone at all? If it's not about the experience, just buy a family sedan and keep it moving.
@@christianflex4all why are you buying a car to impress anyone at all? If it's not about the experience, just buy a family sedan and keep it moving.
Literally said NOTHING about the chassis and suspension changes vs the old model. Who cares about the back seat and HVAC controls? It's a Mustang.
Screen only HVAC controls? I thought we learned that lesson already. Even if Ford hasn’t, I have. Never again.
I Set the temperature for each front seat passenger and use automatic. I've never had an issue including my heated and cooled seats. I like the modern style with less knobs. It sounds like you own a newer vehicle with on screen settings. I'm curious what issues you're having
@@DWH300 Honestly I hate the way they did the interior, and these modern oem infotainments that aren't designed to be removed are so dumb. Makes it a PITA if you want put in a new system in your car. Just my .02, but sports should keep it simple, classy, and analog like the new BRZ/86 interior is perfect.
Keep all the fancy stuff to luxury cars that give you the best of the best anyway.
They made a huge mistake not offering the manual trans with the ecoboost….
No they didn't. There are a ton of people who buy mustangs, Camaros, and challengers for the looks, and nothing else. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it. Many of these people, the overwhelming majority, go with the auto. The manual really only appeals to diehard enthusiasts. Surprise surprise, most diehard enthusiasts go with the v8 anyway.
The decision to offer fewer options and reduce manufacturing complexity by ditching Ecoboost manuals almost certainly saved Ford millions of dollars. Decisions like that are what allows Ford to still offer a 330 hp rwd sports car for a starting price comparable to a family sedan. As car enthusiasts, we want everything in the world for virtually no money, but that's just not how the industry works. We need to realize all car companies make difficult decisions, but at the end of the day, are trying to give us the best products they can.
@@themidnighttavern6784No additional cost bud. Your argument makes no sense. Manufacturers have turned despotic, attempting to control the customer versus being supple and controlled by the public. Well this will backfire as usual.
@@jamesmedina2062 Not to be rude, but you don't seem to know about the product development. The cost to engineer and design this new mustang was about $500 million. It literally costs millions of dollars to make a single metal press for a front left fender good sir. Car development is insanely expensive.
It may seem simple to just bolt an existing transmission onto an engine, but it's not that straightforward. You have to develop, tweak, test, tweak again, certify, and tweak again to do something that small. So yes, it would have added millions of dollars of extra cost to the program to do that.
I wouldn't buy an automatic 2.3 Mustang but a lot of other people will. It's not a mistake business wise. Few people buy the manual.
No they didnt. No one bought them.
A local Ford dealer was gracious enough and allowed me to drive the GT Premium for 24 hours and the Ecoboost Premium HPP for 24 hours. I kept the Ecoboost. The HPP add-on made the Ecoboost feel more planted than the GT. Also, the brakes on the Ecoboost felt better. The GT sure sounds great and it has good power, but the GT needs to be driven hard in order to feel the power. The Ecoboost is lighter and turbo so it was rather zippy. The deciding factor was MPGs. The GT was gave me an average of 17 MPGs, while the Ecbooost gave me an average of 25 MPGs. I already have a STI that makes 600+ whp so I don’t need another gas guzzler. Last, I like the more subtle look of the Ecoboost than the “hey look at me” approach of the GT. The Ecoboost I got was priced at $41k while the GT $51k.
Wow, a 24-hour extended test drive.. pretty nice!
@@Dosbomber Yeah! They REALLY wanted to sell cars in April!
@@neuspeed79since the HPP has the 3.55 rear gears does the low end torque feel substantial? I heard as low as 4.5sec(0-60) what’s your experience been?
@@sammyjammy6647 The ecoboost is definitely impressive! It has a good amount of torque too! The car is more responsive when driven in either track or drag mode.
Uhhh what.
No. Just. No. Stop. Put your head back on your shoulders. Stop taking hallucinogens. Get off the crazy train.
What on earth is this?
Went back to this video after my girlfriend decided that the v8 was just too much motor for her (and it is, for her)... but she ended up purchasing the Ecoboost Premium with the Performance Package. I am actually shocked by how good this car really is. Yes, I get it, the v8 is faster (by a large margin thru the 1/4 mile), but the Ecoboost with the Performance Package will flat out shame many 'performance' cars 0-60 from the not too distant past. On a road course (vs a drag strip) where pure acceleration is only part of the equation, it has the potential to be really quick... and the minimum 10g's that you save pays for a lot of sticky tire and maybe some track time, not to mention the lower insurance cost and crazy gas mileage (was seeing over 35 mpg at 65 mph). So while personally, I love the idea of having a $70k loaded Dark Horse with 500 HP, the $41k Ecoboost Premium with the Performance Package ticks a lot of boxes for almost 1/2 the price. Actually drive one and see why this might be the best bargain in the lineup. Tommy is often wrong, but Ford knocked it out of the park with the Ecoboost Premium Performance Package Mustang.
My old lady drives my 24 GT everyday tell her she doesnt have to use all of the power
Insurance is a major concern. Mine increased by 50% last year. Most others have had the same experience it would seem. As for handling, turbo 4 is much better! The V8 is a nose diving pig.
@@jamesballard6564 You couldn't be more wrong I went from a 2022 dodge charger RT to a 2024 mustang GT and my insurance was twenty bucks cheaper and the four-cylinder handling better is straight nonsense have you drove either? Nose diving pig these cars at most are a hundred pounds heavier and they absolutely do not nosedive it is the best handling car I've ever drove also I had a 2015 mustang GT and they are night and day different.
@@jamesballard6564 Mine doesnt nose dive mine pulls and pulls
Yeah , I d go for the V8 , just sounds sooo much better. I still think there is less wear on the v8 than the 2.3 turbo. It’s not a Big v8 right 5.0 maybe which is the old 302 great engine.
The Coyote 5.0 has absolutely nothing in common with the old 302. The old 302 was a pushrod 4.9 V-8 the Coyote is a true 5.0l dual overhead cam V-8.
And the 2.3 Turbo is the old SVO engine
I wouldn’t get another 4 cylinder Mustang. But I do like the simplicity in the design of this one over the new GT.
Why not?
If I were to get one of these brand new Mustangs, it would definitely be whatever the lowest spec GT is thar can be had with a manual transmission.
That is exactly what I did and im telling you the car screams
I am a die hard V8 fan. Cannot do the singer sewing machine sound...
Have you heard any Focus ST?? They do not sound like sewing machines
@@jamesmedina2062 no they don't,, they sound like a typical fart can 4 banger... I will keep my SS 1LE with a V8....
@@danaberman6929 Bro are we even living in the same country? The Focus does not sound like any other car on the road. That said, do you have a radio?
@@jamesmedina2062don’t try to argue with these v8 guys they don’t hear you 😂 the sound of the car matters more to them than any one go the other specs. A quiet car run circles around a v8 and they would still choose the v8 because it makes loud noises
Great review and perspective on the 4 cyl Mustang Tommy. I agree that its more budget friendly and it opens options for having a second vehicle. One thing I notice in this video that looks super cheap is the center dedicate buttons next to the stop start button. That whole panel moves and I can only imagine the contact points behind it will fail. Terrible design. Ford also seems to be the leader in ugly engine bays with harness, hoses, and wires running all over the place. They could learn something from Dodge for sure. I agree they missed offering up a manual. It would cool to see them to a "SVO" version tribute special edition. I would like a Dark Horse but not willing to blow 65-70K on it, there are so many other better choices for that money.
I’m betting without turning a bolt you could tune another 80 hp and 40 lbs of torque in the
4 cyl .
I have a 24 GT Coyote with a manual transmission.
All the right packages and 3.73 gears.
In just one month of ownership, I already can’t get another race. Even from other Mustangs.
Word gets around fast.
That’s called RESPECT!
By the way, I am Digger Dan, King of the 1/4 Mile.
Dan rules the road
Really? I mean, really? 486 bhp and 3800 lbs? Don't get me wrong, I like the car. I'm actually thinking about getting the 2025 with performance pack instead pof springing for a C8 Corvette, but it's not that fast without forced induction.
No, no thanks. I want a V8. Or I'd rather have another 4 poppers that actually makes good MPG. .
Yes they should make an ultralight one with advanced hybrid 4. But alas this is Ford dragging their feet, not advancing. Typical short-sighted US leadership.
Torque is not really that fun in a performance car, in your daily driver appliance it is great. Torque is what you feel when you leave a stop light, horsepower is what you feel when you wind it out. The current trend of tons of torque at 3000rpm and running out of steam around 5500rpm just isn’t satisfying like a surge of power at 5000rpm that doesn’t give up until 7500rpm plus.
But as he stated that isn't everyday driving. Heavy price premium for look at me insecurity.
Most people buy these cars because they want go fast in a straight line. Torque is what these cars are all about. Most are really ever gonna get the chance to wind it out a Coyote outside of the occasional highway pull. You would be better of getting a MX-5 or a 86 if you want be winding out a engine more on the streets.
@@DragonKnightX12 if you want to go fast in a strait line get an EV, turbos and automatics are watering down the only thing that makes internal combustion relevant.
@@spcneary Might as well. The Mustang is now more of a boat than the Model 3 Performance. The GT is over 4000lbs.
EVa are basically just the new muscle cars.
I would disagree. Turbos have allowed small engines to make more power than what V8s did just 10 years ago.
The combo of turbos and good autos like DCTs allow combustion cars like the Audi RS3, C8 Corvette, or Porsche 911 Turbo S too keep up with EV acceleration, and still be glide through corners.
Good review. In 2020 I decided time for a new Mustang and went looking for a GT but in the end bought an Eco Premium, well-optioned, $27K out the door with aged inventory incentive and a few other discounts. I still prefer the V-8, but it as little as I drive, mostly around town, the four bang Pony suits my needs just fine. It has the active exhaust so helps a bit with the sound, but of course there is no comparison. My real concern is how that little engine will age, so I do what I can to care for it.
I love my ecoboost and it's quick for a 4 cylinder!!❤
I'm totally for having a turbo four banger in a mustang. Just not at 4,000 lb.
The ecoboost only weighs 3550 lbs. The only mustang that weights 4000 lbs is a Shelby GT500.
@@Akapaco2 thank you for clearing that up. I believe the fox body was 3100 lb. That's the tree I'm barking up
@@Tegridynews Yep, the Fox bodies were light! I kinda wish they would make smaller, lighter cars again. A modern ecoboost engine in a fox body would be interesting.
Don't forget the resale on the possibly last V8 will be worth it in the long run
I like the cleaner look of the ecoboost! The v8 sounds amazing but the ecoboost handles better. Less weight on the front end means lighter on its feet!
It doesn't necessarily handle better. The v8 has handling packages. Also, most people don't even drive windy roads or push the cars to their limits.
I like my Ecoboost manual instead of GT automatic. Too bad the new model discontinue the Ecoboost manual.
At this point in time the 4-cylinder is like putting a trolling motor on a yacht. continually putting in a 4-cylinder regardless of its four five six seven thousand pounds there's no cut-off limit to a 4 cylinder is pointless. If you are trying to actual save gas you would lighten the load
What.
@@728GTit's called ignorance, he's oozing with it
Well the reason they haven’t put the eco v6 in is because it would out perform the stock v8. They have to stick with the 4 to keep cost down and meet emissions.
@@byronlocklear91 that is the truth. Or why they don't bring the inline-6 from the Australian that's already faster than the 2JZ to America
@@byronlocklear91 why don't they lightning swap it then?
Love the optimism Tommy, but at 40k
Might as well get the 5.0
People have been saying he has transformed over night to be just like his dad. That would explain the nonsense that was brought up here. The against the logical argument of which is better for the money. Totally opposite of what his dad would choose that is for sure! Makes no sense. When it is time to be practical, his dad is off his rocker and Tommy has got it figured out. But this is not about being practical. Ford has other products for putting around quietly and being boring. lol
You know just as well as I do with dealer markup a GT going to be in the 55 range
@@Dirtay427 no dealer mark up on GT's i just ordered mine 2 weeks ago... if a dealer trys to mark up a gt leave... my build date is september 25th ill probably be driving it in october... now a dark horse yeah your hosed they are going to mark it up every dealer only got 2 allocations good luck getting one of those...
This one has a lot of options like Brembo brakes.
@@palladinos1you ordered online??
Tommy looks more and more like his dad every day!
RECARO really should spec seats with adjustable side bolsters to allow for more torso sizes....A lot more people would option them if that were available.
LOVE the Drift Mode!!!
Maybe get a car that fits your size
I have found good lumbar to be universal but the thigh support and lower side bolsters could use some adjustment. It would not even cost that much to create a screw that alters the angle of the side bolsters. The problem is the nervous pencil pusher managers. The engineering being least of concerns.
@@jamesmedina2062the Recaro seats are for track use keeping you in place. Otherwise you slide left and right. Unfortunately they don't fit everyone. I found The new S650 Recaro seats better fitting that the previous ones in the S550. Personally. I like the premium sport buckets that are heated, Cooled, powered and do a good job keeping you in place, plus more comfortable than Recaro seats.
@@ericrodriguez1835 LoL the Recaro has a very neutral size. The OP can buy either an SUV or a grandtourer and it wouldn’t make any difference seatwise.
@@ericrodriguez1835 It's a Mustang, not a Miata. It should fit the vast majority of people. lol I've seen huge 350+ lb dudes in Focuses.
I’m sure the ecoboost is somewhat fun but there is no comparison. I’ll take the beefy powerful 5.0 ❤
I own a 1966 and 2016 Mustang, powered with V8's and I like driving both as they are so different. I think Ford have lost the 'Mustang touch' by altering the dash board away from the iconic double hip. That is quite unique and going to the modern look as they are calling it has taken the focus off the Mustang look. That's my view anyway. Cheers Ian - New Zealand.
Mustang interior now looks like an interior of an suv. I guess it’s nice?
But I’d rather have the classic Mustang interior look.
Oh well we are in 2024 stop living in the past!
The one you really want is a S550 period
They should have brought back a V6 and ditched the 4 banger....but such is life...they could have at least kept the manual transmission......it is a joke that they gor rid of it. I would never buy a vehicle without a manual transmission.
Ford stepped up to give the Camaro a redesign. Thanks Ford
Nothing like a Camaro, at all
@@Band1.. That's why it's called a redesign...
As an aspiring designer, I can safely say, the two cars really look nothing alike. Literally the only area that looks even remotely similar is the quarter panel. But that's just because the mustang and Camaro are both calling back to their original 60s designs that both had those flared out rear fenders. Flared fenders generally look pretty similar, not much you can do about it.
Ford stepped up and the Camaro, last I heard, is being discontinued at the end of the 2024 year.
@@byronlocklear91Ford had to carry the torch.
The lack of a manual in the i4 is a dealbreaker for me.
I love people shitting on the 2.3 Mustang but I live in shitty Italy where if I get the V8 I have to pay €5000 ($5424) per year just for owning it plus 2€/liter of fuel. So it's either this or a Golf GTI. Guess wich one I'm gonna pick...
The v8 is the soul of the mustang. Even though the emissions tuning has seriously neutered the throttle blip snort sound. It sounds like both the turbo 4 and the v8 get throttle delay initial step in and throttle hang on lift off.
I also think the double hump dash is part of the soul of the mustang, but the fad right now is giant wide flat screen dash boards.
The sweep curve of the front fender lines on the new mustang is just wrong. It looks frumpy sedan instead of sleek sports/performance car.
Going to a different dash layout on the new mustang is a negative. The average Mustang driver wants the look of the old analog gauges . No one wants to be in the driver seat and feel like your at your desktop computer screen!
No manual transmission possible with the EcoBoost? That’s a huge swing and miss by Ford!
I like 4 cylinder turbos but not having a manual transmission option is dumb
There is no replacement for displacement.
Especially when you force induct it. Good luck finding a four or six banger that can do Bugatti Chiron numbers from the factory.
And somehow the 2.3 Ecoboost outsells the V8.
@@damilolaakanni umm. Usually the cheaper model outsells the more expensive model.
@@legiran9564 except forced induction IS a replacement for displacement in terms of output..
@@ALMX5DP Doesn't change my point. You may proceed to strawman some more in the comments since you're that desperate for dopamine.
I can’t believe it will be the last V8 Mustang. Probably a marketing ploy. They already lowered the price of the F150 Lightning, the 4cyl sounds like crap I rather just get a japanese car if I’m getting a 4cyl.
I want to see ford put a 2.3 in the lightning too
A few observations regarding your comments. First the S550 interior was getting blasted for it's dated interior which was part of the reason for the drop in S550 sales. You mentioned the manual transmission missing in the EcoBoost. Maybe you should have ask Jim Owens the number of orders placed for the manual transmission in the S650. If I can remember the number correctly. The manual transmission was around 20% of orders placed versus the 10 speed automatic which included the Dark Horse. Think about your question regarding the Foxbody gauges. The Foxbody Mustangs is becoming very popular with a big jump in their pricing plus it's the 1st 5.0 performance GT that started the return of the muscle cars after the late 60s when the gas shortage ended the muscle cars. By the way. You set a record for the shortest interview with the very informative Jim Owens. Maybe it has something to do with the type of questions you were asking like "Why the Fox Body gauges". You have the head of the Mustang program and you ask that question instead of asking him about the new Gen 4 Coyote and EcoBoost. Then your reasoning for buying an EcoBoost versus a GT. That's why Ford is offering the EcoBoost, GT and Dark Horse. So you have a choice that fits your budget. My issue is I like performance and the amazing sound of the new Gen 4 Coyote S650 GT and Dark Horse.
I'd would've rather Ford put in a inline 6 than a inline 4 in a mustang . The 2.3 is a great performing motor in its own right. But if that inline 6 was on par with like the new Hurricanes from Dodge it might cannibalize sales from the coyote. And I'm more of a inline 6 fan than a v6.
I would really love if the Barra motor made its way into a production mustang.
@@themidnighttavern6784The front end has all the room for inline 6
Because they can still sell a V8, supercharged Coyote would wreck the big Hurricane. The Hurricanes are made too replace the Hemis, which Ford already has the HO 3.5L twin-turbo V6 from the F-150 Raptor and GT if they need to drop the V8.
I'm surprised Ford didn't bump up too their 2.7L turbo V6 instead of the 4-cyl, or at least make it a option. But I guess that would be steeping on the Coyote's toes too.
If the 2.3l turbo mustang was a Japanese car then people would love it.
It definitely has enough power for driving fun!
You forgot to add that 99% of Japanese cars don't come with a V8! If they did, nobody would like 4 cylinder engines!
I’m a V8 guy but I do have to give Ford props for adding the 2.3L when they did. It’s a great throwback displacement from the SVO Mustang. I would rock on SVO Mustang with the current 2.3L. My wife’s Explorer has the 2.3L and I’m very impressed with the power and economy of that engine in her SUV.
@@txvet7738 the problem with the older 2.3s was blowing up and spitting out the head gaskets. They also have a problem with carbon build up in the engine because of direct injection. Hopefully yours lasts forever!
@@Mopar_logic like how old are you talking about, 80s generation old or this generation of 2.3L?
@@txvet7738 huh?? I'm not talking about the 80s generation! The 80s generation didn't have direct injection, did they?!
The dashboard design is a massive fail. Massive fail.
If it came with a stick it would be perfect. But 2.3L is auto only.
It’s becoming more difficult to find things I don’t like about the new Mustang😂
23 GT owner here, as many others are saying you probably won't be able to get a V8 anymore before too long. My GT is not my daily driver and after 8 months I've only put 1600 miles on it (I'm a homebody) and I say all this to emphasize the fact that I do NOT regret buying my horse at all. I'm smiling the entire time I drive it, every time I drive it. Unfortunately I live in an extremely heavy traffic area so it's a pain in the ass having to constantly shift gears, but going out for a bit of a countryside drive is absolutely beautiful.
My civic sounds angrier than these ecoboosts. If it's all you are able to afford and you simply must have a mustang, more power to you and I wish you the best. If you're in the market for it and can manage a bigger purchase in the GT, I fully recommend it. I did not like the '24 and factory ordered my '23. I'm certain there will be plenty around on the lots if you feel the same.
Good luck friends!
6:30 is where the real fun starts. 5.0 all day!
I liked 17:41 power wheels buttons
Torque comparison should show the respective torque curves.
Yea, I want a 4 cylinder that has to have tons of engine wearing boost to make horsepower, all while sounding like an angry bee. Or, I could just get a proper tried and true V8 and smile all day listening to that wonderful V8 sound.
Getting the GT fastback premium when it arrives on the lot. Dealerships said they are still on production 🤦
I'd be totally fine with the 4cyl but not with the new prices... Crazy.
Its only 32k
it’s gonna be so sad when all v8’s are gone.. i have a feeling they will be back by popular demand though
I eagerly anticipated the 2024 Mustang and wanted very much to like it. But sadly I just can’t like it. I’m disappointed with the folded paper exterior styling and the chunky front end. The 2023 is much better looking. But I’m really disheartened with what they did to the dashboard-it looks like a Kia with stretched out iPads tacked onto the dash instead of a proper and nicely sporty instrument binnacle. This is a car for the adolescent video gamer generation. Infotainment systems are ruining car interiors.
And then to make it all worse they discontinued the manual transmission on the Ecoboost.
What a massive disappointment.
Man. That v8 sounds awesome. No way I could buy a 4 banger over that….can’t even believe you’d suggest that…..might have to pull your man card for that!
Does the torque come in faster in the 2.3 ecoboost?
Yes, much faster. Especially at low rpm where most of us drive anyway.
17:37 great quality feel to those buttons...
Hell they aren't even individual buttons! One long shitty button bar it looks like.
Lol that's exactly what I've been saying. I've seen higher quality on my child's 2017 power wheels
@@macbook802Mustang: Let's upgrade the engine but make everything else worse
I’m just focused on those misaligned panel gaps between the hood and the front bumper. S550 was the one to get.
I tell you what, the interior is not mustang at all, its all just this day and age's "ipad glued to the dash" and going away from the double hump design was a stupid bullcrap way out, dont get me wrong on the outside its starting to grow on me, i do think its a bit over styled and sharp and the tail lights need work but otherwise its pretty good, on the interior they need to put more hours into it, it doesnt even have a sun shield over the dashboard Ipad, and i need my buttons, i like my physical buttons i can push, it may not be a nessesity but yk what, they dont have me sold, until they fix the little things ill stick with my 2020
No eco boost for me 5.0 aka a real mustang all the whining about the fox body cluster 1 the people who owned or own a fox body now have the cash to buy the s650 2 the fox body was a great bang for the buck back in the day 3 millennials will never get it
The rule is: there is no replacement for displacement, period. The V8 will be worth far more in the future. Give me a 4.6 V8 or the 4.0 V6. Simple good horsepower and very tunable. The EGR makes a more reliable motor? No thanks!
That 3.7 V6 was the best V6 ever in a Mustang.
I wish Ford offered a car between the 2. The 3.0L Twin Turbo from the Explorer ST would be perfect in a Mustang. 400HP 415TQ would rip!
Tommy, I agree, I miss the double brow dash too. This just isnt right.
7:30 Yup, I’m now working Saturdays to get a GT
The worst part of the design is the rear taillights. I just can't unsee Elantra in the taillights.
"And why you may want to skip the mighty 5L GT, and opt for the 2.3L Turbocharged 4-cylinder Ecoboost instead." As Steve once said: No, I don't think I will.
The ecoboost is a fun car
I don't like the screens. They should have kept the iconic layout with technology blended in. Also the V8 is the preferred option. 👍
Beautiful new design for the ‘stang! This turbo is interesting but the 5.0 is the one to get hands down. Extremely excited for Ford’s return to GT3 next year!!
I test drove a new '20 Ecoboost and it was fairly quick. My plan was to dump the $8k savings over the GT into the car and make a GT slayer. That was the plan, until I drove it. I just couldn't deal with the lack of V8 rumble. I owned a '14 F150 with the 5.0 at the time. I tried to make myself do it, I just couldn't.
I spoke with the Project manager for the S650 and he said they still retain the K-member from the S550. So not everything is brand new.
The Ecoboost doesn't even come with a manual! If it did, it would still be a consideration
I hate it when people tell me to do or not to do something, like they think they know me! The more they tell me not to buy something, the more I find myself wanting to buy it, and dammit! I want a V8!
Then buy it no one’s stopping you but not everyone wants to pay a extra 10 grand for a car so they’re pushing the other options for people who don’t wanna spend that much. If you want a v8 got buy one 😂 you weren’t the target demographic of this video
17:41 my kids' powerwheels has higher quality switch gear. I hope thats a joke
Yeah, but the sound is one of the most rewarding things about the car. I think there is a big difference between the two engines.
My 2022 Ecoboost has some power upgrades and I regularly surprise a lot of "sports cars" with my tail lamps.
No replacement for displacement
The button panel next to the start button looks like trash!
Little misleading with torque comment. Horsepower absolutely matters in these cars cause people get them to accelerate fast. Think in terms of a semi, torque=how much weight it can move, horsepower= how fast it can move it. For the person how night be a little confused between the two.
Tommy, you and Andrea have become my favorite people to listen to. Keep up the good work I like the new mustang. The only thing I would really love to see is a GT 500 all wheel drive that would put him in a whole new league.
Like that it has port and direct injection, will help with longevity.
Buy the v8!!
@20:13... No. The lever on the seat back does what you were trying to do.
It's just wrong to have a Mustang without a V8.
Direct and port will help longevity. Can’t wait to see both engines getting thrashed on the track.
No manual
I'm trying to figure out what he's talking about with the fog lights on the S550. Those haven't been an option since the '05-'14.
Hearing the tire screeching in the background. Waiting for the BAM!!!! as some Mustang driver wraps one of the press cars around a power pole.
The 2.3 ho is also a 0-50 race oil car that means very expensive oil changes
5w-50 isn’t all that much more than standard synthetic.
That’s… an extra $20 per oil change? So basically negligible
@TheIpadFanatic4Life ford dealer I worked at was about 100 for the regular 2.3 and almost 200 for the 2.3 ho
And the gt350/500 were both about 300
@@andrewdorsey7444 ford dealer you worked at was a sham
Sounds like they know buyers will pay more for a particular vehicle even though it may not actually cost the service department more. Looks like the 2.3 Ecoboost has a 6 quart capacity while the 5.0 has a 10 quart, so even if the oil was more expensive, it's still 4 quarts less.
The V8 will still last longer and work much less having a lot more fun. Gorgeous Mustang. You can keep the 4 banger.
The 4 banger is the bud light of the line up.
Manual GT for me. Never driven an Ecoboost. As you said, it's probably better in the corners, but I'd prefer something lighter for that.
Nice presentation! V8 still the one to buy
A Mustang enthusiast wants a V8. If these car manufacturers are so determined to use a turbo,fine. Put a turbo on a 5.0!
👏👏👏👏👏
4:31 You know what else really transforms the character, a V8
I'll keep my 2004 mystic chrome convertible cobra. Completely original 36,000 miles. My A/C works twist it. My exhausts is fairly quiet which is great. Matching leather color as exterior.
Dang that’s a unicorn! Love the fact it sounds so well preserved but get some more smiles per gallon out of that thing!!! :)
There are always some jackasses in the comment section that tell us how they’re going to keep driving their old Mustang, and snub their nose at the latest and greatest.
@@sammyjammy6647 and you’re upset by these comments why?
Sell it so someone can actually enjoy it! Only 36k miles in almost 20 years? Come on bruh
Imagine bragging about mystichrome leather
I don’t care if the Ecoboost has more HP and torque. I’d still go for the V8. Not even a question.
thats pretty dumb though... you have to have more hp and torque in v8 otherwise its a dumb decision. you'll have more weight, worse fuel economy etc. weight through corners etc. etc. etc. V8 must be much more powerful otherwise its the ol girlfriend keeps returning to her abusive bf syndrome... doesn't make sense to anyone other than the girl who says he smells nice lol
ide get the Ecoboost if it was 20k and offered a manual transmission
@@fortheloveofnoise
$20K is a bit cheap; I do agree that if they had a 6-speed manual option for around $28-30K I’d think about it. I love my 2018 ecoboost, performance and appearance-wise it beats the S650 IMHO.
The 2.3 turbo in the Mustang will not be offered in European spec models.
Good, I'm moving to Europe. They still know what it means to be American
@@macbook802it's not that, they have to ship it and they have a much smaller margin because they WAAAAY mark up the V8 Mustang in Europe.....they got rid of it in Europe the same reason why they gave up their best selling car, the Fiesta....Ford is greedy and wants higher margins and does not want to service the "poor" customer
It’s easy for you guys to push buying turbos when you only drive them brand new with less than 10,000 miles on them. Try and keep one for 200k miles, you won’t be recommending turbo over v8 anymore