@Kid Colt, They used a few other people's footage without leaving credit to the original creator, I honestly feel like that is a real scummy thing to do
It’s nice to know that Charles most likely lived out the rest of his days happy, he was probably the most moral character in the game and he deserved peace after everything
Mmh.... I wanted that for him, but knowing how Canada used to treat Natives and even French minorities at that time, I don't think it was such a happy ending
Arthur didn’t want to send the family away because they didn’t speak his language lmao He didn’t want to because they were supposed to be moving camp and didn’t know them. He just said the bit about language afterwards
I’m happy they didn’t just kill off the whole gang. They gave some of them good endings. And it’s good to see a lot of them still. I wish they could visit you in the after story.
I still think what they did to Strauss was dirty. I know he did bad stuff, but he was soo loyal that even though he was detained, tortured, and was ultimately killed, he still never talked. Maybe he was afraid they’ll find him and kill him. Or hoped they’d find him and save him. He was just doing the job Dutch hired him for. And until that moment, he never thought there was any serious issue. He also probably never thought anyone would have contracted tb. Maybe didn’t even know the guy had it? Yeah, he prayed on innocent desperate ppl. But Arthur could have talked to him. Didn’t have to be nice. But tell him he’s gotta find another way to help the group. I mean, look at uncle, and reverend. They didn’t do anything to contribute. Just saying.
Yea, I remember playing chapter two for the first time and thinking "I guess Strauss is the only one actually making money here besides us". As you said, it was what Dutch let him join for and, if Arthur brought up the moral issues to (a still sane) Dutch, they could probably stop loansharking to extremly desperate people, not like you can't make plenty of money with regular banking. I get Arthur's point, but he did Strauss dirty
@@NoFlu yeah, and it was clear Strauss could have helped win at card games or things like that. Someone else pointed out, Arthur knew the gang was falling apart and wanted to help Strauss by giving him a reason to escape without making it obvious what was happening. Which is why he made sure to find the right bag and gave him money like he did with the rest. Just recently found that out. So maybe?
I like to think that after red dead redemption 1, jack tries to track down all the members to help him write his book called red dead redemption that you can find in one of the gta games, i can’t remember which, you cant read it or anything but its an interesting theory. I think this could be the possible premise of red dead redemption 3. Either that, or the earlier lore of the vanderlin gang, like what went down in black water, how arthur joined the gang, all of that.
Arthur did not wanna help them because he did not care / was lazy he said the thing about speaking german that he did not see a reason because they were german or something like that
Early on in the story Arthur just didn't care about anything besides the gang in general so he didn't see the family as the gang's problem hence why he didn't want to help them. Had absolutely nothing to do with race/ethnicity
When I finished the epilogue in 2018 I spent hours scouring the entire map looking for Karen after finding everyone else. Since she doesn't have a confirmed death she could come back if RDR3 is a sequel to RDR1 I think she'd be about 40
Everyone knows about the book in gta5 red dead by j Marston I wonder if later in life jack met up with Mary Beth and they worked on the book together. Maybe she could help fill in some things that he didn't remember
This is how they died my theory Charles 1872-1914/1935 Dies from old age in 1935 old age or died somepoint in ww1 (1914-1919) defending his home and family . In canada you only had a 10% chance in living past ww1 ( Google help me lol) In other words if he gets past ww1 he's good. Sadie 1871/1874-1914/1918 Sadie never wanted to lay down and was always active. I reckon soon was ww1 happend she wanted to do what's right and i reckon she would have died saving a younger solider. ( Yes women fought even then just rare thats all) Pearson 1861-1914 Old age. I use google life expectancy and it was 53/54 Decided to add 1861 to 53 and hot 1914. ( No way he was living past ww1 anyway 😂) Like to think he died just before from old age Mary Beth 1874/1879-1921/1927 She dies from old age at either 47 or 53. Again google life expectancy helped 😂 Tilly 1880-1930 Tilly dies from old age ( I don't see her joining any wars 😂) Again google life expectancy helped. She dies age 50. Also she and Mary Beth are friends still. Note: Her husband likely died in ww1 so i reckon she was a single mother who Marry Beth helped a hand with. For Tilly losing Marry would be like losing a sister 😢 Karen 1872/1876-1899 Yea she deffo killed herself with that drink pretty soon after she went missing I'm sure. Swanson 1849/1852-1910 Life expectancy plus his drinks damage his lungs before he got better equals he died at idk 50 max. I reckon that ny church was short lasted 😢 Josiah 1855-1913 Google life expectancy. Old age I don't see him making it to WW1. Jack Marston 1896-1939/1952 This was hard 😂. In short A dies in 1952 in prison doing life for Ross murder. He wrote books while there B dies in 1952 at home from old age but the books his wrote will be a emotional life story sharing his feelings from everything the gang, 1st kill, ww1, ww2. He has PTSD as well. C Dies in 1939 early WW2 fought through WW1 used 1919-1938 writing books. For those saying he wouldn't fight I reckon he had to as people was drafted after 1916 forcing people to fight. Same with ww2 you had no choice
My friend thinks that Josiah is the guy that John talks to in red dead 1 since they’re wearing similar outfit and they kind of look the same to be honest that would be pretty cool
It would’ve been fun if when you have John in Saint Denis he attends a vaudeville show and Trelawny is performing and you can meet up after the show for a little convo.
@@ralphintheshadowrealm7002 They are actually the only two gang members that don’t have any dialogue or camp interactions together. Trelawny and John never speak or interact at all, that’s gotta be by design. Also explains why John sort of recognizes the Strange Man in RDR 1 but can’t place where from. Also in the RDR 2 epilogue John either meets, or asks Sadie and Charles about, every single gang member and confirms where they ended up after the gang split up, every single one except for Trelawny, because he just did not know him Or remember him. This also had to be intentional, since they will meet again in RDR 1, via Strange Man missions.
@@skeletor4436 Trelawny can do lots of magic, tricks and illusions like making animals appear and disappear. Also, we see can observe Magnifico doing teleportation in a stranger mission, obviously it is meant as a joke, but it’s still canon. All of those things considered dodging three bullets is really not out of the realm of possibility. He could have simply been wearing something bulletproof.
I’ve said it before, others have as well, and I’ll say it again. Pearson is such a good and wholesome man, literally got treated like shit, when he quite literally kept the gang alive feeding them day in, day out and he hardly ever complained. Then he later has a picture on his store wall of the only friends he ever had. That gang was all he had before that store, and losing them all had to have hurt, regardless of how they treated him.
pearson is a coward. liar and a 2 face man. In the scenes in the credits after you finish RDR2 you can clearly see pinkertons visiting Rhodes. Clearly the agents questioned him and even if he denied it at first, there was literally a picture on the wall as proof of association. Also his new wife hated john and clearly convinced pearson to rat on john and tell the feds where his family is. Even the dialogues you have with pearson as john in the shop are omnimous.
Crazy how much Trelawny was treated as an afterthought, yet was instrumental in a boat heist and rescuing Sean. And was warning the gang about their recklessness and possible repercussions the whole time.
@@howmanybabiesdidNestleKill That Strange Man is death himself, since there's aliens, big people, and ghosts in rdr. So it's not surprising that death is in the game
I wish the interactions you can have with them were a bit longer bc they never felt to satisfying to me. After everything I think we deserved more than a 1-2 minute cutscene where their basically rushing to leave though it is better than nothing. Finding out Karen basically died from alcohol abuse was really sad though
Would be neat if Jack met Charles in Canada while Jack is joining the Canadian army on its way to World War 1 in an attempt to escape people hunting him for his killing of the agent
I’m glad to see content on RDR2 all these years after the release of the game. I’m not a gamer at all but this thing sucked me in! Being a father fighting for time on the console, working overtime, and house projects it took me nearly 3 years to complete my first play through. Finally finished it a couple months ago. It’s so cool seeing all of the new RDR2 videos coming out lately!
@@iGAM3PLAYZi yeah, it got frustrating! The worst part was my PS4 disk drive would become corrupt and have to be reformatted anytime there was a power outage or if it got unplugged without powering off first resulting in having to start all over. I finally got smart and started saving my progress on a thumb drive 🤦♂️ Part of it was also having the ending spoiled before I personally finished it. I played for a long time while in the Shady Belle camp doing challenges and collecting. Decided to stop prolonging the inevitable and finished it up over the holiday break. Now I’m debating on whether to start another play through or try to 100% everything. 🤔
@@CFarnwide what did you decide to do? I played this game through about 4 years ago and got so sucked into the story around the end of Chapter 2 that I pretty much just played the story through from there. I figured I would explore the map, etc. after I finished it. I really didn’t enjoy playing as John, though. I played Revolver when I was like 10, but I didn’t play RDR1 so I had no emotional connection to John. On top of that, I found him annoying as fuck during the story. On top of that, the whole vibe of the epilogue was really boring to me. I’m in chapter 6 on my 2nd play through right now. This time I have a save back near the beginning of the Rhodes storyline that I’m going to go back to after I finish the story. That will just kind of be a rolling character afterward to complete challenges and just enjoy the only good western video game world when I want to veg out.
@@deadaccount-rip I really don’t enjoy playing as John as much as I did Arthur. He is growing on me though! I’ve decided to attempt to 100% everything. I’m at 92% now so it would be silly not to. With the amount of time I have to play, which is not much, it would take me another 4 years to complete another play through! 😂
I'm glad that things worked out for Pearson, Marybeth, and Tilly. Although they seem to be successful now, I like to think they miss their time in the gang. It's a shame we didn't get a reunion for John's wedding.
It would’ve been cool if the wedding scene in the credits included every gang member you had found up to that point. Ex: if you found Pearson in Rhodes and interacted with him he’d be there, but if you hadn’t found Tilly in Saint Denis yet she won’t be there.
I personally think, we will have Charles to be The Main Protagonist in Red Dead Redemption 3 and I also remember hearing that Rains Fall and his People’s, moved to Canada to get away from the Deadly Oil Incidents and it also seems like Charles is most likely going to live on the New Wapiti Reservation with his Wife and Kids.
I think we might be Dutch or Hosea for rdr3 since its most likely about the gang forming together. We might instead play one of the dead characters in the beginning of rdr2 as a possibility.
How about a three inter-twined main characters, similar to GTA 5? Perhaps a story set after the events of RDR1 , with Jack, Sadie, and Charles as the protagonists!
@Asian dude Imagine me saying " It doesn't make sense for Dutch's gang to have that chapter in Guarma, because they live in North America and Guarma is a fictional island anyway." LOL cmon man, I'm confident you can do better. Have some creative thought!
Can you make a vid on Arther’s timeline and his family from Arther’s birth to his son and his death. Just basically arthers life from beginning to end.
And I'd like to believe both got far enough away from the Pinkertons/Ross & Bureau to be able to live comfortably and avoid capture. As we saw in RDR1 Ross and Archer didn't even go into Mexico to collect Javier, rather waited at the border
Sadie was probably killed. She was wild after what happened to her and to be honest, she never got better. Its not too far fetched to believe she died horrible like the rest of the gang. Maybe charles got off easier.
@mrsanatra1 Until that's confirmed by Rockstar then she's very much alive. She became a bounty hunter by the epilogue and could handle herself just fine. Far as I'm concerned she escaped far enough away from Ross and Co.
I tried following mary beths train as soon as it started being right next to her window most time to see what happens if she couldnt dissapear since im looking at her if shed just turn into a normal npc to later dissapear or anything else, she dissapeared right in front of me sadly
I think having Pearson join the wedding would’ve made more sense, since we don’t know where Mary-Beth or Tilly are at or going to when they got on their train/trolley, although that’s just my opinion.
I'm pretty sure Tilly lives in St. Denis as we see her walking with her husband during the end credits. Mary-Beths residence is completely unknown. Just because we find her in Valentine doesn't confirm she lives there
@@41Brother2 I know Tilly lives in Saint Denis,I meant that we don’t know her she lives in Saint Denis. I’m sorry I didn’t give much of an explanation.
an unnoticed detail by a lot of people is that the surviving members.. are the high honour ones. we do have exceptions like Sean, Hosea but losing those characters is a side affect of low honour actions
Man people are desperate for attention in this comment section. Anyways, i'm pretty let down by Karen's disappearance. I'm not saying that the fate of every character should be known completely in-depth, but it just feels weird that the story barely even mentions her after she vanishes. No one even talks about it except for Tilly in only a letter, and even then she doesn't know that much either. I can completely accept that Karen did something very dumb while intoxicated, but just vanishing without a trace or even so much as just one character at camp going "where's karen?" just seems off. Trelawny on the other hand was always written as someone who would show up very randomly and disappear often for unknown spans of time, to me, for him to just stay away from the gang and not be seen around them makes sense especially when Dutch started going crazy.
Arthur Lets out his last breath on a mountain looking east at the sunrise karen Drank till death Trelawney is possibly still in st denis Mary-Beth is A writer Tilly is living the life of Wealthy Folk Swanson became a Priest John,Abigail, Jack and uncle became Ranchers charles went to Canada Javier is Hiding in the rocky mountains of Mexico Dutch was in Mt Hagen now Tall trees Micah Got what he deserved Grimshaw died Screaming on the ground in pain Joe and cleet got killed by Marston Sadie went to south America Jack became a writer Pearson became the general store owner of Rhodes Bill Williamson hiding in fort Mercer
Despite how evil Strauss was; I’m intrigued about his morality. He was basically forced out of the gang by Arthur, and told never to come back. Yet, he never spoke a word in custody. It makes me wonder if Strauss was as evil as some people say. He never looked for vengeance, he never hurt anyone, but he sure as hell had a lot of people do his dirty work.
Hey, I think you should debunk "gta and rdr are connected" bs. In rdr2 New York and California are mentioned many times. Neither California nor New York exist in gta. Also I think Texas is mentioned in one of the gta games and in rdr Texas does not exist. The only evidence to "prove" a connection is obvious easter eggs, does a book in Franklin's house or a drug lord having a German ancestor really constitute the same universe? Anyway please at least mention this because I've seen people claim they are canonically connected.
Man...ik Arthur's ending is part of what made game good..but i wish..i sooo wish there was another play through where i could keep him alive.. God damn i always get too attached to fictional characters
So is my game glitching? because after i finished it. Charles smith hangs around john's ranch at the campfire? lol you can even agonize him too and interact with him
The same thing happened to me a few times. People told me I was crazy. I’m glad the same thing is happening to you. I saw him standing by one of the fences and wondered what the hell is he doing there. And he started talking about how he had a lead on Micah… I was like we already finished that and Micah is dead 😄
God even though leopald strauss was a bad man he never told he was loyal sure he had some shady business dealings but he was loyal though it is kind of sad at how he died like that im guessing it was too much pressure for him but im not sure
I'm scrolling thru the comments to check and see if anyone has the same sentiments as me when it comes to Strauss. He was loyal till the end and it felt authentic when he said he thought he and Arthur were friends 😢
A fun little piece of head canon that you can think about is that the gta online character (or one of ‘em) is the great great grandchild of Jack Marston (you can set the father of gta online characters as John, but it’s still the same lineage and Jack really does look exactly like John so it still fits).
Charles writes John a letter at the end of the game saying he found a woman in Canada. I don’t remember if he said they had children or a child on the way.
I know I'm late, but I just finished the game after finally being able to afford them 2 weeks ago. I just killed Micah and I still think I haven't killed him enough.
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how about pinging this comment for making the Zonkers Gun for you 2?
I made it though.
@Kid Colt, They used a few other people's footage without leaving credit to the original creator, I honestly feel like that is a real scummy thing to do
@@I_JetFuture_I everyone is credited in the description, bubby bear.
Bubby bear is funny as fuck
It’s nice to know that Charles most likely lived out the rest of his days happy, he was probably the most moral character in the game and he deserved peace after everything
especially after surviving the "once this is all over" death flag in the last mission
i still hate the developers for killing lenny bro, anyone but lenny would work.........
Charles and Lenny were the only pure souls in the gang. Still can’t believe they did lenny like that 😢
@@couchman-sw6jyand sean
Mmh.... I wanted that for him, but knowing how Canada used to treat Natives and even French minorities at that time, I don't think it was such a happy ending
Arthur didn’t want to send the family away because they didn’t speak his language lmao
He didn’t want to because they were supposed to be moving camp and didn’t know them. He just said the bit about language afterwards
I’m happy they didn’t just kill off the whole gang. They gave some of them good endings. And it’s good to see a lot of them still. I wish they could visit you in the after story.
Good stuff with the in-depth analysis’ 💪, when I covered the gang I chose to go about it with short videos
too many of em to do shorts lolll
@@zonkers. true there’s a lot of these mfs
I still think what they did to Strauss was dirty. I know he did bad stuff, but he was soo loyal that even though he was detained, tortured, and was ultimately killed, he still never talked. Maybe he was afraid they’ll find him and kill him. Or hoped they’d find him and save him. He was just doing the job Dutch hired him for. And until that moment, he never thought there was any serious issue. He also probably never thought anyone would have contracted tb. Maybe didn’t even know the guy had it? Yeah, he prayed on innocent desperate ppl. But Arthur could have talked to him. Didn’t have to be nice. But tell him he’s gotta find another way to help the group. I mean, look at uncle, and reverend. They didn’t do anything to contribute. Just saying.
Yea, I remember playing chapter two for the first time and thinking "I guess Strauss is the only one actually making money here besides us".
As you said, it was what Dutch let him join for and, if Arthur brought up the moral issues to (a still sane) Dutch, they could probably stop loansharking to extremly desperate people, not like you can't make plenty of money with regular banking. I get Arthur's point, but he did Strauss dirty
@@NoFlu yeah, and it was clear Strauss could have helped win at card games or things like that. Someone else pointed out, Arthur knew the gang was falling apart and wanted to help Strauss by giving him a reason to escape without making it obvious what was happening. Which is why he made sure to find the right bag and gave him money like he did with the rest. Just recently found that out. So maybe?
The gang used to rob rich guy, not lending money with high interest to poor people
Reverend was the gang's doctor, and uncle was the gang's complainer, as he complained enough for the whole gang
I like to think that after red dead redemption 1, jack tries to track down all the members to help him write his book called red dead redemption that you can find in one of the gta games, i can’t remember which, you cant read it or anything but its an interesting theory. I think this could be the possible premise of red dead redemption 3. Either that, or the earlier lore of the vanderlin gang, like what went down in black water, how arthur joined the gang, all of that.
Arthur did not wanna help them because he did not care / was lazy he said the thing about speaking german that he did not see a reason because they were german or something like that
Early on in the story Arthur just didn't care about anything besides the gang in general so he didn't see the family as the gang's problem hence why he didn't want to help them. Had absolutely nothing to do with race/ethnicity
Fire intro bro🎉🎉 fyi just subscribed and like the video just awesome all the way around
glad ya liked it home boy
Arthur with the horse and the lightning shot is absolute perfection
When I finished the epilogue in 2018 I spent hours scouring the entire map looking for Karen after finding everyone else. Since she doesn't have a confirmed death she could come back if RDR3 is a sequel to RDR1 I think she'd be about 40
Everyone knows about the book in gta5 red dead by j Marston I wonder if later in life jack met up with Mary Beth and they worked on the book together. Maybe she could help fill in some things that he didn't remember
Arthur gets TB from the barfight in Valentine, when mr Downs stops the fight and coughs in Arthurs face. It´s not because of Strauss.
That intro montage was amazing.
Imagine if everyone didn’t leave like if Charles and uncle could’ve definitely saved John and Arthur prob
Okay ngl, that intro gave me Peaky Blinders vibe
Remember veteran in Rhode sad reaction after realizing Arthur's dearh😢
The guy who wispers: his voice is so awesome
Imagine this guy responds with mmm SwaawS
Btw i dig the borderlands 2 style intro
deez
@@zonkers. deez what
@@bartwuchs6833 NUTSSS
Knowing R*, they'd probrably kill evryone somehow by the time Jack has killed Edgar Ross
Charles is one of Arthur’s actual friends
There is a scene in rdr2 online where you meet her and her new husband
The song fits perfectly gonna drive me nuts what the name of the song
Am I the only one who knows the intro music is from Strikeback?
that song wouldve went crazy if it was really in the game it fits so well
His voice is so satisfying
lmao which one?
@@zonkers. the first one is nice👍🏻
In my play through I went to see Mary Beth and she was in her sleep wear
Whats the song used in the intro
what about Bill and Javier ? i dont think we have any informations about them
you can see bill and javiers fate in rdr1
@@zonkers. that’s true i completely forgot that RDR1 is after RDR2, many characters die in RDR1 too 🥲
I don’t get that letter that Tilly supposed to give John
The goats
Arthur getting sick isnt why i hate Strauss. I just see Strauss as a literal mosquito. I antagonize him every time im in camp.
This is how they died my theory
Charles 1872-1914/1935
Dies from old age in 1935 old age or died somepoint in ww1 (1914-1919) defending his home and family . In canada you only had a 10% chance in living past ww1 ( Google help me lol) In other words if he gets past ww1 he's good.
Sadie 1871/1874-1914/1918
Sadie never wanted to lay down and was always active. I reckon soon was ww1 happend she wanted to do what's right and i reckon she would have died saving a younger solider. ( Yes women fought even then just rare thats all)
Pearson 1861-1914
Old age. I use google life expectancy and it was 53/54 Decided to add 1861 to 53 and hot 1914. ( No way he was living past ww1 anyway 😂) Like to think he died just before from old age
Mary Beth 1874/1879-1921/1927
She dies from old age at either 47 or 53. Again google life expectancy helped 😂
Tilly 1880-1930
Tilly dies from old age ( I don't see her joining any wars 😂) Again google life expectancy helped. She dies age 50. Also she and Mary Beth are friends still.
Note: Her husband likely died in ww1 so i reckon she was a single mother who Marry Beth helped a hand with. For Tilly losing Marry would be like losing a sister 😢
Karen 1872/1876-1899
Yea she deffo killed herself with that drink pretty soon after she went missing I'm sure.
Swanson 1849/1852-1910
Life expectancy plus his drinks damage his lungs before he got better equals he died at idk 50 max. I reckon that ny church was short lasted 😢
Josiah 1855-1913
Google life expectancy. Old age I don't see him making it to WW1.
Jack Marston 1896-1939/1952
This was hard 😂. In short
A dies in 1952 in prison doing life for Ross murder. He wrote books while there
B dies in 1952 at home from old age but the books his wrote will be a emotional life story sharing his feelings from everything the gang, 1st kill, ww1, ww2. He has PTSD as well.
C Dies in 1939 early WW2 fought through WW1 used 1919-1938 writing books.
For those saying he wouldn't fight I reckon he had to as people was drafted after 1916 forcing people to fight. Same with ww2 you had no choice
My friend thinks that Josiah is the guy that John talks to in red dead 1 since they’re wearing similar outfit and they kind of look the same to be honest that would be pretty cool
That wouldn't be the case since Josiah is a former van der linde member so John would've recognize him
@@levanitamani9262 yeah my friend said that Sadie died in red dead one even tho she didn’t 💀
@@Mrguy42066 where did he get this type of information?
what kind of knife do you have
tbh i dont really know, it kinda just appeared. its definitely modded tho, i just dont know which mod
You forgot to mention what happened to John
he died lol
He died in RDR1. Edgar Ross shot him with his army.
John Killed them 🤨
Who else robbed Pearson and killed him when he ran the general store ( if you wanna kill him you need to use fire or dynamite)
You bastard
It would’ve been fun if when you have John in Saint Denis he attends a vaudeville show and Trelawny is performing and you can meet up after the show for a little convo.
It’s because Trelawny is in RDR 1 too but it’s sort of secret I think he is the strange man. That’s why John recognizes him a little.
@@howmanybabiesdidNestleKill absolutely not Trelawny. Main reason being is John doesn’t know what the mystery man is. He knows Trelawny.
@@ralphintheshadowrealm7002 They are actually the only two gang members that don’t have any dialogue or camp interactions together. Trelawny and John never speak or interact at all, that’s gotta be by design. Also explains why John sort of recognizes the Strange Man in RDR 1 but can’t place where from.
Also in the RDR 2 epilogue John either meets, or asks Sadie and Charles about, every single gang member and confirms where they ended up after the gang split up, every single one except for Trelawny, because he just did not know him Or remember him. This also had to be intentional, since they will meet again in RDR 1, via Strange Man missions.
@@howmanybabiesdidNestleKillcan't be trelawny. The strange man is shot like 3 times to no affect if Trelawny were shot he would be dead
@@skeletor4436 Trelawny can do lots of magic, tricks and illusions like making animals appear and disappear. Also, we see can observe Magnifico doing teleportation in a stranger mission, obviously it is meant as a joke, but it’s still canon. All of those things considered dodging three bullets is really not out of the realm of possibility. He could have simply been wearing something bulletproof.
I’ve said it before, others have as well, and I’ll say it again. Pearson is such a good and wholesome man, literally got treated like shit, when he quite literally kept the gang alive feeding them day in, day out and he hardly ever complained. Then he later has a picture on his store wall of the only friends he ever had. That gang was all he had before that store, and losing them all had to have hurt, regardless of how they treated him.
Could not agree more
@@MT-pf1pvyup.
pearson is a coward. liar and a 2 face man. In the scenes in the credits after you finish RDR2 you can clearly see pinkertons visiting Rhodes. Clearly the agents questioned him and even if he denied it at first, there was literally a picture on the wall as proof of association. Also his new wife hated john and clearly convinced pearson to rat on john and tell the feds where his family is. Even the dialogues you have with pearson as john in the shop are omnimous.
Yeah that scene when Pearson was looking at that picture of the Van Der Linke gang in Rhodes store was sad and emotional.
Too bad he's also the real rat.
Crazy how much Trelawny was treated as an afterthought, yet was instrumental in a boat heist and rescuing Sean. And was warning the gang about their recklessness and possible repercussions the whole time.
It’s because Trelawny is in RDR 1 too but it’s sort of secret I think he is the strange man. That’s why John recognizes him a little.
@@howmanybabiesdidNestleKill This fucking theory again
@@earnem4175 what other theories make sense to you? That he’s the devil? Or a ghost? Lmaoo.
@@howmanybabiesdidNestleKill That Strange Man is death himself, since there's aliens, big people, and ghosts in rdr. So it's not surprising that death is in the game
@@earnem4175 did you play RDR 1 when it was new or after RDR 2 came out ? Just wondering
I wish the interactions you can have with them were a bit longer bc they never felt to satisfying to me. After everything I think we deserved more than a 1-2 minute cutscene where their basically rushing to leave though it is better than nothing. Finding out Karen basically died from alcohol abuse was really sad though
Yeah that sucked. I loved her character.
she is actually found dead in a mansion south van horn trading post with another mans pants undone.
@@thekidwhoisbadatvideogamesman what? 💀
@@thekidwhoisbadatvideogames stop making shit up
@@thekidwhoisbadatvideogames no she fking isnt, its a mod what you saw
The German family you help actually saves Arthurs life late in Ch. 6. I just noticed it on my last playthrough
JUST?
@@mmmmm4986 i smoke a lot of weed
@@dosidicusgigas1376relatable
really? when?
@@dosidicusgigas1376need to stop it. It's rotting your brain.
Rev. Swanson was the doctor for the gang. All scenes including John being sick in Ch.1 shows him taking care of John's wounds.
And when Arthur gets back from the ambush, Dutch tells Reverend to help Arthur.
@@imaguyandabeautifulbutterflyI think that's more to do with dutch suspecting arthur of dieing
Would be neat if Jack met Charles in Canada while Jack is joining the Canadian army on its way to World War 1 in an attempt to escape people hunting him for his killing of the agent
A sequel as jack with old charles showing up as a kind of mentor figure would be dope
. . . Oh God, the heartbreak though when charles dies
I little while after your done with the story you get a letter from Charles saying that he got to Canada
I’m glad to see content on RDR2 all these years after the release of the game. I’m not a gamer at all but this thing sucked me in! Being a father fighting for time on the console, working overtime, and house projects it took me nearly 3 years to complete my first play through. Finally finished it a couple months ago. It’s so cool seeing all of the new RDR2 videos coming out lately!
3 year to complete 1 play through that in itself is impressive
@@iGAM3PLAYZi yeah, it got frustrating! The worst part was my PS4 disk drive would become corrupt and have to be reformatted anytime there was a power outage or if it got unplugged without powering off first resulting in having to start all over. I finally got smart and started saving my progress on a thumb drive 🤦♂️
Part of it was also having the ending spoiled before I personally finished it. I played for a long time while in the Shady Belle camp doing challenges and collecting. Decided to stop prolonging the inevitable and finished it up over the holiday break. Now I’m debating on whether to start another play through or try to 100% everything. 🤔
3 years?? Bullshit. Attention seeker
@@CFarnwide what did you decide to do? I played this game through about 4 years ago and got so sucked into the story around the end of Chapter 2 that I pretty much just played the story through from there. I figured I would explore the map, etc. after I finished it. I really didn’t enjoy playing as John, though. I played Revolver when I was like 10, but I didn’t play RDR1 so I had no emotional connection to John. On top of that, I found him annoying as fuck during the story. On top of that, the whole vibe of the epilogue was really boring to me.
I’m in chapter 6 on my 2nd play through right now. This time I have a save back near the beginning of the Rhodes storyline that I’m going to go back to after I finish the story. That will just kind of be a rolling character afterward to complete challenges and just enjoy the only good western video game world when I want to veg out.
@@deadaccount-rip I really don’t enjoy playing as John as much as I did Arthur. He is growing on me though! I’ve decided to attempt to 100% everything. I’m at 92% now so it would be silly not to. With the amount of time I have to play, which is not much, it would take me another 4 years to complete another play through! 😂
I'm glad that things worked out for Pearson, Marybeth, and Tilly. Although they seem to be successful now, I like to think they miss their time in the gang. It's a shame we didn't get a reunion for John's wedding.
It’s weird they weren’t invited for it.
It would’ve been cool if the wedding scene in the credits included every gang member you had found up to that point.
Ex: if you found Pearson in Rhodes and interacted with him he’d be there, but if you hadn’t found Tilly in Saint Denis yet she won’t be there.
That would be cheesy asf
@@lennarthagen3638 You’re just mad nobody wants to come to your wedding
@@beegtuna9375 nah it's just cheesy as hell, please never write or direct anything
@@looneytunes5632 43 other people beg to differ
@@beegtuna9375 nah, it really just wouldnt make sense.
I personally think, we will have Charles to be The Main Protagonist in Red Dead Redemption 3 and I also remember hearing that Rains Fall and his People’s, moved to Canada to get away from the Deadly Oil Incidents and it also seems like Charles is most likely going to live on the New Wapiti Reservation with his Wife and Kids.
I think we might be Dutch or Hosea for rdr3 since its most likely about the gang forming together. We might instead play one of the dead characters in the beginning of rdr2 as a possibility.
How about a three inter-twined main characters, similar to GTA 5? Perhaps a story set after the events of RDR1 , with Jack, Sadie, and Charles as the protagonists!
@@braywyatt516 i dont think it would make sense since sadie moved to south America and charles moved to canada
@Asian dude I know you're more creative than that, dude! Have you lived in the same place your entire life?
@Asian dude Imagine me saying " It doesn't make sense for Dutch's gang to have that chapter in Guarma, because they live in North America and Guarma is a fictional island anyway." LOL cmon man, I'm confident you can do better. Have some creative thought!
Man we take so much for granted in life. Imagine having these beautiful relationships with people just to get disconnected years later.
You don't have to imagine. It happens to the majority of people. And it's always sad imo
Can you make a vid on Arther’s timeline and his family from Arther’s birth to his son and his death. Just basically arthers life from beginning to end.
possibly.
Anyone else notice how Mary Beth looks like a young Miss Grimshaw in her cameo of her writing at her desk during the end credits?
Love the BL2 callback with the character recap and “Ain’t No Place for No Hero” playing.
The only two people that fought in the gang and survived are Sadie and Charles and the rest are people like Pearson,Tilly etc
And I'd like to believe both got far enough away from the Pinkertons/Ross & Bureau to be able to live comfortably and avoid capture. As we saw in RDR1 Ross and Archer didn't even go into Mexico to collect Javier, rather waited at the border
Sadie was probably killed. She was wild after what happened to her and to be honest, she never got better. Its not too far fetched to believe she died horrible like the rest of the gang. Maybe charles got off easier.
@mrsanatra1 Until that's confirmed by Rockstar then she's very much alive. She became a bounty hunter by the epilogue and could handle herself just fine. Far as I'm concerned she escaped far enough away from Ross and Co.
“You ain’t as tough and dense as all that…”
We all need a friend like Charles..
I tried following mary beths train as soon as it started being right next to her window most time to see what happens if she couldnt dissapear since im looking at her if shed just turn into a normal npc to later dissapear or anything else, she dissapeared right in front of me sadly
It would have been cool to see Arthur and Sadie get together but also such when he dies.
@Obese Loser Spoilers? Bud this vid is literally what happens at the end.
Think you’re on the wrong video.
She literally just lost her husband a few months ago
Why come to a video with spoilers if you don’t want spoilers 💀 y’all folk are the real cringe
@@Fangeddeer The only thing cringe is you “folks” 🤓🤓🤓
I get the feeling Arthur wasn’t into her. She was nothing like Mary who was very lady like, versus a rugged woman who wants to be like a man
I think having Pearson join the wedding would’ve made more sense, since we don’t know where Mary-Beth or Tilly are at or going to when they got on their train/trolley, although that’s just my opinion.
I'm pretty sure Tilly lives in St. Denis as we see her walking with her husband during the end credits. Mary-Beths residence is completely unknown. Just because we find her in Valentine doesn't confirm she lives there
@@41Brother2 I know Tilly lives in Saint Denis,I meant that we don’t know her she lives in Saint Denis. I’m sorry I didn’t give much of an explanation.
You can actually find Karen’s body in the basement of a house near Van Horn
I just finished chapter 6 and it’s the only video game that’s ever made me cry
AC 4 Black Flag has the same affect
i played it the year it came out and every year since, and i still cry at that ending every time.
@@shaungreer3350 I have the same reaction for the end of Black Flag
Rdr2 and 1 only games that ever made me cry
Every bit about the intro was amazing, found your channel about a week ago and I love it
🙏🙏
For some reason the camera angles remind me of Quentin Tarantino’s style
Idk why 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Hey, you are getting closer to 5k, well done guys, you surely deserve more and more.
an unnoticed detail by a lot of people is that the surviving members.. are the high honour ones. we do have exceptions like Sean, Hosea but losing those characters is a side affect of low honour actions
Don't forget about Kieran
Lenny!
Man people are desperate for attention in this comment section.
Anyways, i'm pretty let down by Karen's disappearance. I'm not saying that the fate of every character should be known completely in-depth, but it just feels weird that the story barely even mentions her after she vanishes. No one even talks about it except for Tilly in only a letter, and even then she doesn't know that much either.
I can completely accept that Karen did something very dumb while intoxicated, but just vanishing without a trace or even so much as just one character at camp going "where's karen?" just seems off.
Trelawny on the other hand was always written as someone who would show up very randomly and disappear often for unknown spans of time, to me, for him to just stay away from the gang and not be seen around them makes sense especially when Dutch started going crazy.
The idiots still thinking uncle is red Harlow and trelawney is the strange man know nothing about the red dead universe
Are the interactions different if arthur had low honor
some of them
Wrong
@@zonkers. not really
@@juniorcellx charles lol
@@juniorcellx Aktually it’s wrong 🤓
Trains showing up at the worst time just when the conversations are getting good
Everyone that was high honor, didnt need the gang to be happy. But they still loved eachother. It sucks that Strauss ever joined.
Strauss is the shittiest person after dutch and micah. He's the only one to target innocent poor people while the others target the riches or bad guys
Strauss was a dikhead for sure
Arthur Lets out his last breath on a mountain looking east at the sunrise
karen Drank till death
Trelawney is possibly still in st denis
Mary-Beth is A writer
Tilly is living the life of Wealthy Folk
Swanson became a Priest
John,Abigail, Jack and uncle became Ranchers
charles went to Canada
Javier is Hiding in the rocky mountains of Mexico
Dutch was in Mt Hagen now Tall trees
Micah Got what he deserved
Grimshaw died Screaming on the ground in pain
Joe and cleet got killed by Marston
Sadie went to south America
Jack became a writer
Pearson became the general store owner of Rhodes
Bill Williamson hiding in fort Mercer
Despite how evil Strauss was; I’m intrigued about his morality. He was basically forced out of the gang by Arthur, and told never to come back. Yet, he never spoke a word in custody.
It makes me wonder if Strauss was as evil as some people say. He never looked for vengeance, he never hurt anyone, but he sure as hell had a lot of people do his dirty work.
Is nobody going to talk about how amazing that intro was? That part is really underrated
Damn shame what happened to Karen. But as we all know grief can be overwhelming. As for Strauss all I could say was good riddance to that bastard.
Hey, I think you should debunk "gta and rdr are connected" bs. In rdr2 New York and California are mentioned many times. Neither California nor New York exist in gta. Also I think Texas is mentioned in one of the gta games and in rdr Texas does not exist.
The only evidence to "prove" a connection is obvious easter eggs, does a book in Franklin's house or a drug lord having a German ancestor really constitute the same universe?
Anyway please at least mention this because I've seen people claim they are canonically connected.
Dudes…. That intro was amazing!!!! Beautiful editing and everything!!!
“Arthur saved my life I don’t talk about it much” DONT TALK ABOUT IT MUCH !
Man...ik Arthur's ending is part of what made game good..but i wish..i sooo wish there was another play through where i could keep him alive..
God damn i always get too attached to fictional characters
Very cool your episode. Good luck my friend!👍
Can You remember me when You both become famous?
of course
So is my game glitching? because after i finished it. Charles smith hangs around john's ranch at the campfire? lol you can even agonize him too and interact with him
The same thing happened to me a few times. People told me I was crazy. I’m glad the same thing is happening to you. I saw him standing by one of the fences and wondered what the hell is he doing there. And he started talking about how he had a lead on Micah… I was like we already finished that and Micah is dead 😄
I had a glitch where after sean was shot he was sittin there in camp
God even though leopald strauss was a bad man he never told he was loyal sure he had some shady business dealings but he was loyal though it is kind of sad at how he died like that im guessing it was too much pressure for him but im not sure
I'm scrolling thru the comments to check and see if anyone has the same sentiments as me when it comes to Strauss. He was loyal till the end and it felt authentic when he said he thought he and Arthur were friends 😢
A fun little piece of head canon that you can think about is that the gta online character (or one of ‘em) is the great great grandchild of Jack Marston (you can set the father of gta online characters as John, but it’s still the same lineage and Jack really does look exactly like John so it still fits).
The original John Marston outfit
You guys are doing a great job I love watching these videos.
thank you! they're only gonna get better
Shoutout Strauss for redeeming himself in a way
Plottwist: Sadie went to Canada and became Charles's wife.
Charles writes John a letter at the end of the game saying he found a woman in Canada. I don’t remember if he said they had children or a child on the way.
10:06 is it just me or is that the FNAF jingle?
Perfect timing I just beat red dead 2 100% yesterday
My head cannon is that Uncle survived Rdr 1 and then went on to shoot Tupac in las vegas
Zonkers already forgot about me. I'm sure they won't pin me.
They wont
Don't correct me
@@Red_Morgston *They won't. Don't correct me.
@@KC.45 Your lifespan decreased by 70 or might just about end if you do a single more correction
maybe next time mister colt 😤
1:31 minutes in ..., Killa intro. 👍🙏🎯🔥💥💯
0:17 Nice, it reminds me of a Schofield design I made.
My favorite is Trelawneys, that dialogue was so cute
I know I'm late, but I just finished the game after finally being able to afford them 2 weeks ago.
I just killed Micah and I still think I haven't killed him enough.
Normally hate long intros but what the fuck, that shit had no reason to be that good. I know it’s just one humble opinion but damn good work!
You guys should do certain sections, not switch off practically every other sentence. One of you do one part, and the other do another.
I love the Borderlands 2 style intro. Fantastic work
All fates are unknown after 1911 includes (Mary Beth Tilly Pearson Reverend Trelawny Charles and Sadie) so I say jack is the only one left
Karen is never seen again after chapter 6, she easily could’ve been kidnapped by the Murphees, which would be a horrendous ending