The Lemoyne Raiders - Red Dead Redemption 2
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I like the idea that the "leader" was actually just annoying to the rest of the gang. So they gave him a fort outside of their territory just to get him away from them.
Makes sense as I'm sure you wouldn't leave a good leader in some shity run down fort in the middle of nowhere
You can find a civil war hardee hat in the basement of the fort and a letter from a general who was presumably killed by Confederate soldiers who launched a successful attack on the fort
@@scoutman66 oh wow
@@scoutman66 There's also a D-guard bowie knife down there. That style of knife really was fairly popular in those days.
Honestly it’s not a bad idea as the fort is abandoned so not much people will snoop arround and it’s in a different state so they can evade the law in lemoyne as they don’t have jurisdiction over the area and it is a good hide away also it only has one enterance so they can easily take out any bounty hunters after them especially since they have a machine gun there
_"I didn't put one of my own behind bars, I put YOU behind bars and it feels good thanks"_
God I love Clark's delivery of that line
Same here I was laughing for a solid couple minutes
I love how each gang has some sort of flaw that the Van Der Linde gang has but exaggerated. The Lemoyne Raiders fight for a cause that just doesn't work in the modern world, the Skinner Brothers are as Charles puts it, "Angry men on a rampage," the O'driscolls are basically the way Micah turns the gang, and the Del Lobos have an odd sense of comradery against a man that embodies injustice to them. The Murfree Brood are also a demented group that sticks together because of familial bonds. And if we take Angelo Bronte as well, he misleads his lackeys by giving them what they need, like how Dutch "saved" many of the members of the gang.
Thats a damn good point 🤔
I feel that most criminal gangs in general harbor these traits.
Skinner brothers in reality are natives but due to possible* PR nightmare they changed it to European descends.
Edited*
@@normaaliihminen722 that seems logical, do you have any source to that
@@95zzz Well there is Catherine German case in it Catherine's parents and male family members were killed and she and her sisters was captured and held as sex slave and there is wikipedia pages which lists known massacres.
Despite being fictional there is a hint of reality, there was a period of time where some former confederates tried to keep the war going. Not just for a couple weeks after the war but for a couple years. In time they eventually dissolved a few of them turning into the Klan while some just becoming outlaws. I liked how they maintain that in the game.
That's basically what the KKK originally was, a band of ex Confederate soldiers still fighting on.
@@afroartist1086 Funny since you can encounter both Lemoyne Raiders and the KKK in the overworld (although the Raiders seem to be a lot smarter than the KKK.) And of course Joe Butler, the homeless vet outside of the Rhodes general store
Well yeah, they are taking the piss out of the south, the myth of southern gentelmen, the myth of northern aggression ect. They're showing you, these are the types of people who actually existed in that system in that time. Just 30 years after, soo all the polish has worn off the rot.
@@421less1 Honestly though, historically speaking the KKK shouldn’t even exist at the time of the game.
The first KKK was founded by Nathan Bedford Forest as a fraternity for former confederate soldiers (kinda like how Washington help found the Society of Cincinnati for Revolutionary War vets). However the group quickly turned into what was essentially a terrorist organization and Forest left as a result and ultimately denounced the group he had helped found. The first KKK disbanded in the 1860s after the US passed the Anti-Klan legislation.
It wasn’t until the 1920s that the second KKK was founded at Stone Mountain, Georgia following the lynching of Jewish American Liam Frank who was accused of raping and killing one of his young white female workers.
The game takes place in 1899. So for all intense and purposes the KKK shouldn’t even exist as an entity at this point.
@@Kaiserboo1871 yeah theyre in there because theres never a bad time to ruthlessly make fun of white supremacist
It kinda pisses me off that when the Lemoyne Raiders rob a train, no cops actually come. But when Arthur robs a train, every lawman from Valentine to San Francisco arrive to get a piece of the action.
The law enforcement probably doesn’t really care about the Raiders and views them as a nuisance rather than an actual threat.
@@mapleflag6518Yes but also some lawman themselves could have still felt bad being on the losing side. Not as bad as to join the raiders but also not as good to stop their deeds of resistance
@@degamegang8262 Yeah but It not make sense when It passed 30 or 40 years between the civil war and The year 1899 during the Game so its pretty weird that The law don't fight The Riders ASAP
The good old "Lemon" Raiders as I call them
I feel like that was rockstars inspiration for the colors they fly
@@greedgod5827 it's a civil war cavalry bandana/neckerchief that's why it's yellow. Same reason the old man in lemoyne has red that's for artillery
They were the funnest to fight
Is it cause they're still sour about losing?
@@chimaera2611 Twinned with the SaurKrauts, a gang comprised of the decedents of Hessian mercenaries trapped in America following the defeat of the British during the war of independence150 years before
Yes, love these gang documentaries. Can't wait to hear the civil war accounts.
Me too bro
"racism bad"
We wont ever get an objective video.
@@dylanmonstrum1538 what?
@@dylanmonstrum1538 whats up with the quote 🧐
@@dylanmonstrum1538 are you implying racism good in this statement or are you making the claim of most if not all AAA studios being to dumb or scared to get to any actual analysis of slave labor based societies besides the universal "racism bad"?
7:47 After he was done with that impressive speech, I tossed a stick of dynamite directly in the middle of them, they screamed in terror and all blew up in all directions, killing them instantly, and Arthur said something like, “Ain’t not tales to tell this time.” I laughed so hard but almost felt bad. That guy describing blowing up in the past. 😂
He must've had PTSD flashbacks right before he died lol
I do the same thing at the slave shacks in Rhodes when they won’t share the chicken
Thats exactly what i would have done. Let history repeat itself.
I saved the cop!
Fun fact: Eluding to the weapons deals in Cuba and South America, RDO has one of the Lemoyne Raiders hideouts at Clemens Cove where they seemed to have firearms packed on a boat.
There are some cool encounters when you and John go to clear out shady belle but most people miss these because they kill everyone very quickly
Yeah I only discovered about it today. The first guy inside the house downstairs gets his gun jammed, then tries to fist fight you, the second guy upstairs, on the left of the stairs, if you enter his room, pulls out a knife and tries to kill you. And the third guy shoots himself, but everyone knows about that one.
@@DarthDerp-ih2ru the first guy gun jams and you can let him leave and John has a chance to kill him
@@DarthDerp-ih2ru the first one doesnt fight you tho, arthur tells him to leave and then john kills him
I always liked to imagine that the first guys revolver didn't jam but just wasn't even loaded or the round in that particular spot had already been fired.
Well The last guy I knew was gonna end himself so I blasted his face with a shotgun to get it over with.
Just did the Lindsay Woffard mission. In chapter 4.
Arthur mentions to woffard how he’s staying in shady belle, on the horse ride back to the police station.
Woffard then states “your the ones who took the belle?” (Or something to that effect) Then follows with a slew of insults.
So by that I would say he’s clearly connected or has good ties with the raiders down south. Figured I’d mention it as the video doesn’t. For any of those who care.
Have you seen Gavin!?
@@sleepingcat637 “I’m sorry, I don’t know any……Gavins”
When I tried to get old Lindsey in my first playing, my card crashed. I do not mess with him since that.
@@gavinsmith7457"That's........ That's too bad"
The Lemoyne Raiders keep ambushing me every single 5 minutes im in Lemoyne especially that one bridge where the train passes, its impossible to hang around lemoyne without a army of raiders just blasting you with their repeaters, there one of the reasons why i do not like being in Lemoyne lol
They like to do that, they're kinda silly fellas
@@Fizhy there worst than the O”Driscolls, and their clothes looked like it had not been washed ever since the civil war started.
@@Fizhy susy bakas
Chapter 3/4 be like
@@limitify331 That’s kinda the point, they don’t want you in Lemoyne
The fact that you can make an hour long video about a gang that only shows up in 2% of 60-hour campaign just shows how massive this game is.
You can spend however many hours as you want studying the lemoyne raider, I don't wanna hear this "2% of a 60 hour campaign" sht.
@@exldonkeys6891 Yeah, but the casual player will overlook this. Casual player will make up the majority of the players. People who are interested will go out of their way to learn more.
@@MoGumbo_ Yeah and the creator of the video was clearly one of those people who go out there way.
@@MoGumbo_ People always say this bullsht but the fact he's still limiting it by hours shows he doesn't actually know what he's talking about. He's js copying what everyone else says.
@@exldonkeys6891 They didn't seem very intelligent
That was an excellent job, sir. I can't get enough these RDR2 gangs "documentary" videos.
Keep up the good work.
bro i aint even watching series anymore im stuck down this rabbit hole of rdr videos
One thing I really like about the Lemoyne raiders that you brushed on was how they parallel the Van der Linde gang in some ways. In the raiders' case, at least to me, they reflect something like Dutch's high-falutin rhetoric about American freedom and opportunity and how that view rubs off on the gang. There's the obvious difference that the raiders are bushwhackers -- ex-Confederate outlaws still fighting the Civil War -- and it is interesting to note that Dutch would personally dislike the comparison since "daddy died on a Pennsylvania field" fighting Southerners, implicitly Gettysburg, but there's still that talk about how "something's only lost if you let it be" and misguided notions of self-sovereignty. It dovetails nicely with how you see Dutch still trying to hold on to that outlaw life even when they betray the spirit of that in the prologue by heading east "towards all that civilization".
Also, tangentially, there's this interesting generational gap you're seeing with the raiders. There's the original raiders, the ones from the 3rd Lemoyne and the ones that would have been around when that newspaper mentions how they used to be seen as sort of heroes, and the younger men. That scene where a younger raider shoots the hostage police officer for "disrespecting the cause" to the disapproval of two of the older raiders who wanted to ransom him -- it shows how the times are changing with the rebel remnants evolving into essentially a Lost Cause gang, but it also brings to mind how Dutch's gang is partly kept together by there being a vision for the future and a moral justification for what they are doing.
About your second point, I didn t really see it that way. In my opinion, the 2 senior Lemoyne raiders wanted to keep the police officer alive because a ransom can fetch high, and thus provide funding for the gang to survive or gain in power. By being too idealistic, the Junior Lemoyne ruined their chances. It's quite intriguing to me. You'd think their stubborn kind would have been proud to see that their code stuck so perfectly to a young fellow. But it s the opposite. The older members prefer to think long term
What's wrong with self sovereignty?
@@rinzler1801 What's wrong with it is that it's not a real thing. Everyone who wants "self-sovereignty" also wants to govern others and not let others be self-sovereign.
@@Princess_Celestia_
That's funny, coming the imperialist rainbow horse.
And you don't see the hypocrisy of them attempting to tax (what they would call extortion)then ambush and kill people while talking about sovereignty and freedom??
that "Old-Timer" retelling his story would've been no more than a Boy during the time.
Assuming the civil war ended in 1865 in the world of RDR, then it would have ended 35 years previous to him telling his story.
He looks like he could be anywhere from 40-60? So maybe he was in his early or mid 20s, if he is around 60, which is pretty young for someone apparently fist fighting a bunch of other soldiers.
Whatever the math says though, it sounds like an exaggerated story, a young solider blown into the sky and winning a fist fight against a bunch of soldiers in the middle of a battlefield...
Yeah, it seems that Rockstar definitely wanted a Civil War/Lost Cause connection in the game but way too much time had passed for the setting.
If he was 20 in 1865 that meand that he is 54 while telling the story. Perfectly reasonable.
@@tigerburn81 The last confirmed "soldier" of the American Civil War died in 1956, he lived to the age of 106 - he served as a drummer boy and his regiment never saw combat. The last confirmed veteran of the Civil War who saw combat died in 1953, James Hard lied about his age to join the Union Army in 1861 and fought through the First Battle of Bull Run, the Battle of Antietam, Chancellorsville and Fredericksburg. He lived to the age of 109.
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A veteran recounting his story in 1899, not even 40 years after the war, is definitely not a case of "too much time had passed" - it helped set the foundation of the Lemoyne Raiders, making them that much more insane for clinging to the cause of a state and the institution of slavery that ended decades ago.
I mean, Confederate Civil War vets were still around doing things as late as the 1920s, because some of them WERE just boys in the 1860s. Boys as young as 14 fought in the Civil War.
Pls never stop the red dead content you're one of the few actually good channels that still make content on it. Also video was amazing
Everything has to come to an end though eventually
@@pranava5683 One day yes, but he still has a lot of stuff to cover
@@pranava5683 also he still really enjoys it, so i dont think its gonna end yet
Prod. Wonderland I mean yeah I know he’s enjoying it but even rdr2 has it’s limits with how much you can find new in it.
@@pranava5683 there is a limit to what you can find in game but not the ideas you can think about and discuss
An hour long Fizhy video? A great new years indeed.
Back here again
aCtUaLlY, iTs 54 MiNuTeS aNd 32 SeCoNdS lOnG. yOu WeRe 5 MiNuTeS aNd 28 SeCoNdS aWaY.
One of my favorite camp events in the game is Tilly telling Arthur, that she doesn't feel good so deep in the south, Arthur at first acts like he doesn't know what she means, until she says something along the lines of "come on Arthur, I'm a neg*o"
Which then Arthur drops the act and says she doesn't have to worry, cause they take care of her
It's ridiculous that you have to censor that
Not calling you ridiculous, let me clarify
I found it odd that they couldn’t have given her a gun for self defense
@@ntfoperative9432 eh I don't really care buddy, I don't want to ruin someone's day because of it
@@Samagachi hmmm, interesting point
The raiders are just more fun to fight than any of the other gangs
@LivingCarbon Heck one of the most famous outlaws Jesse James was himself an ex soldier of the Confederate Army
@@zackkilgore528 He never was In the army he was a gorilla with Bloody Bill Anderson after Quantrill left and was killed shit he was to young till Bloody Bill took over then he fought cole younger was In the Confederate Army not jessie
@@patar3932 I think Jessie's brother Frank was in the army or at least he was at the battle of Wilson's Creek.
@@zackkilgore528 yeah Jesse James was in a group called Quantrills Raiders after the war, which was a confederate sympathizers group that targeted former Union supporters and anyone else who got in their way in the South. I’m fairly certain that the Lemoyne Raiders is heavily inspired by them.
@@ashmyblunt maybe, that’ll certainly make sense
Bill "These damn flies! I swear they got it in for me."
Dutch "You could try washing once in a while."
The gang's insults towards each other are comedy gold.
RDR2 has some of the best voice acting performances ever given, unfortunately Camille sounds like they pulled him out of an early PS2 game
Also the spanish in Guarma which isn't even near to Cuban accent because the voice actors are obviously Mexicans and they have some weird generic dialogues
Same for most of the Del Lobo guys, specially the one you capture with Sadie in the Epilogue
And Robbie Laidlaw, the supposed Scotsman who just sounds like he's doing his best Demoman impression
Always thought it was weird how there was such a big downgrade in the quality of the Spanish dialogue in this game vs the first one. But also the Cantonese and Creole heard in Saint Denis are super legit? It's weird
@@nousername2942 I played through the first again recently and honestly other than Reyes I didn’t think any of the deliveries were awful. I live in a city with a lot of Mexican immigrants, the VA sounds like they cast people who speak English as a second language which is perfect. Not sure where they went wrong in the sequel. As someone already stated the Del Lobos are laughably bad as well. Maybe they didn’t care as much because there’s far fewer Latino characters in the game?
I'm pretty sure it's because it's a character who's pretending to be french LOL. He doesn't sound french at all, and you can hear the leaking of his original accent through his lines. I'd say his voice actor actually did a great job, I can only imagine it's difficult to voice a voice that's pretending to be... a different voice LOL
I have a massive feud with them, they've killed too many of my horses
Make sure to blast Union Dixie when hunting them down.
Don't tell me it was at the western bridge of Saint Denis...
You can get the Bolt Action Rifle in Chapter Two. In the Mission where you Save Shawn from the Bounty Hunters. After ambushing the 2 Hunters near the River. Fight your way up the hill and some Bounty Hunters will drop the rifle when you shoot them
You have to shoot the guy on the left, whether hit or kill, he will drop it. Looting him whether picking up the rifle or not will give a few rifle cartridges.
i’m a bit late but you can also get the bolt action from the sheriff in valentine if you find him with the bolt action and drop him whilst he’s holding it, you can then pick it up and flee the law, i know because i needed it for hunting a cougar for the legend of the east satchel so i just shot him and took it because i couldn’t wait till chapter 3
@@princesskaraplays905you could just wait until you can get the Springfield, does just as much damage, you just gotta be a bit more accurate
The most impressive part is that Rockstar actually got the specifically Cajun French accent so right
Hell no y sound like a guy from france
@@luciusprepus because that area was owned by the french before it became part of the union. Hell there are people up north in America and their accents sound damn near British
@@thecausalgamer7916 Sounds nothing like anyone from south Louisiana the Cajun accent is usually quick these guys sound like a bunch of guys.
I can remember when I captured Lindsey Wofford, I tied him up and threw him on my horse, but as soon as I left the fort I did get his cronies try to save him, they also tried saving him the last time I played it through so I think it's random whether or not they try rescuing Wofford
Wofford is a bounty every bounty has cronies that try to save your target
@@markmagician2471 Not every bounty will.
Some of the bounties that are gang members usually do have rescue attempts, but sometimes they don't, plus not all the bounties are for gang members
I never encountered them but I do know that you can encounter rival bounty hunters when doing it but when I did it last time I rode so fast that the bounty hunters didn’t catch up to me and I saw them following me
@@Mercury29477 I've not had that happen at all. I think it just goes to show how impressive the game is because it seems there are multiple ways even the simplest of missions can play out 👍
As a native Kansan, who had to learn all about "Bleeding Kansas" in middle school history class, being able to hear about the Lawrence, KS and the jayhawkers was literally sooooooo awesome.
Kansas Gang.
John Brown did nothing wrong.
Fellow Kansan here. As a resident of the state of Kansas, I am obligated to say that hearing of our state in media was the most exciting thing of my day among the sunflower farming.
@@spartan11payne Based
Man Lawrence looked real swell in 63
@@spartan11payneevery time I see a dumb white woman get murdered by a pack of blacks I say “Thanks John Brown”
Just like how Charles described the Skinner Brothers, “They’re just angry men, on a rampage”.
The whole commander thing I think is a reference to the fact that the lemoyne raiders operate in multiple states. I think he is the leader of this unit, and probably one of the many commanders that they have
I accidentally killed both bounties trying to capture them and while taking Lindsey Wofford’s body to Saint Denis, I did have a couple raiders try to stop me. Weird that it doesn’t happen if he’s taken alive.
Bounty hunters u mean
@@amqru were they bounty hunters? I thought they were raiders because they yelled about not letting me take Wofford’s body.
@@shayzcactus833 yep, bounty dudes who wanted the money 4 the own.
It happens if he’s alive as well. I played through it yesterday, as long as you are following the yellow line on the compass when bringing him to Saint Dennis, some two or three bounty hunters or raiders will always appear. Let me double check if they were bounty hunters or raiders.
@@amqru lol I remember last time I did the bounty I never even got stopped by them since I rode so fast but I did see them following me and I did pop a horse stimulant on the ride
5:51 I remember encountering this on my second play thru and listening to the dialogue thru and thru. Was quite fascinating honestly, and it amazes me how down to every last npc the voice acting in this game is just top notch. Even though this dude was some crazy scumbag I really felt like i was sitting there being told a war story... Until the end anyway I think he was just gassin himself up lmfao
A Red Dead game set during the Civil War would be amazing
No
@@The_Don_ Yes
That would be awesome. I could see a mission paying tribute to The Good the Bad and the Ugly in it.
In terms of story it would be an absolute banger though I’m not sure it’d be as fun gameplay wise as they only had single shot rifles, the carbine and Henry repeaters, and a handful of revolvers back then
@@jackkarpoe6228 th-cam.com/video/3O7fK7oWVTg/w-d-xo.html
The ambush just outside of Rhodes where the explosion goes off and they attack legit caught me off guard. Also scared me because it was loud 😂
To me the lemoyne raiders are more annoying then intimadating unlike gang such as the murfree brood and skinner brothers
The murfree only ambush you when your in roanoke ridge, but the raiders? They ambush you everywhere in lemoyne so yeah they suck ass
Nothing is scarier than the night folk tho
@@limitify331 the murfree also appear near the swamp
@@pavannair6469 no
@@greedgod5827 Have you ever heard about the Skinners?
When I first encountered the Raiders in the Rhodes bar I wasn't expecting it, and Arthur ended up throwing one of them out of the window behind them 😁
Go back to the bar they’ll talk to you about it I believe there’s more to that
47:26 The Lemoyne Raiders are an American Civil War version of the Japanese soldiers who thought World War II was still going on years after it ended.
I absolutely love these videos man. Delving deeper into Rdr2’s world makes the game even more immersive.
We're blessed tonight with this long one lads
I stole a horse from a camp of Raiders without killing any of them and sold it to the fence not far away, their campfire smoke was still in the distance so I went back. They were all sat around the camp fire but none of them reacted to me, the red blips had gone from the map. I was literally punching them in the face and they just stood there taking it. Needless to say I got a bit "unit 731" on their asses.
This game is one of the few games that even after all these years you find/discover something new
It’s always a good day when Fizhy makes a Red Dead video.
I don't know if you know this but if you capture him in chapter 4 he references the fact that you took over Shady Belle
37:44 loyalty... Arthur, it ain't -
I HAD
A GOD DAMNED
*PLLLLAAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!!!*
These videos are sick. Helped me start playing RDR2 again!
This was so good! I can’t wait for you to do a video about the O’Driscolls!
He did
I guess you could say, the Lemoyne Raiders were a 'Lost Cause'
It’s actually incredible how Rockstar went into making these detailed animations for the camp encounters. A lot of people would just go into the camp & kill everyone without even thinking.
Like Arthur Morgan says "there a bunch of children playing soldiers."
These documentary style videos are great. Puts into perspective how much work the studio put into setting up the world and its history.
The amount of detail just in listening to the gangs alone is truly astonishing
I have been rewatching the gang documentaries all week, this is gonna be good!
0:40 - I’m from Louisiana (where Lemoyne is based off of) and these words are true in game, and in reality.
Boohoo
Very in depth and non rushed video on this gang. Very well done.
I'm on my second playthrough chapter 2 and last night I kept running into these guys everywhere. I love taking out the rival gangs in this game, especially when you can sneak up on them at a campfire and toss some dynamite at em.
When you get to the encounter where the veteran recalls the battle at copperhead landing I threw a dynamite stick into their camp right after he describes the "boom" sound from the artillery
I get my RD fix from your videos. They are all top notch! Thank you so much for the time and hard work you put in to reveal the nuances of this masterpiece to us again! You have a true gift of putting a storyline together seamlessly. Thanks again
Mate, I only recently got RDR2 and have binged out all your Vids from over 2 years ago. It's great to see you still making more. I like your sense of humour.
I’ve been watching your old rdr2 videos, and I’m so glad you are still making these!
I do like that the leader of the leymone raiders is in a old captured Northern fort with a letter from a general killed by confederate soldiers. Really adds to the disenfranchised and "the south will rise again"feel of the old confederate states
38:12 I love Arthur's response so much. I'm just picturing him just going back to his bed and hanging that poster up and being like "looks nice" 😂😂😂
Amazing video, I find that RDR2 is one of the most in depth games so many details im on my 4th play through and still finding new things
The Braithwaites produced the moonshine, the Raiders were buying it and providing protection for the operation as well.
If you deviate from the path and go through the field and cut the road, you can avoide the riders
I love your videos fizhy! I hope you never stop making them (unless you don't want to make them any more) as all of us really like them!
I love how fizhy brakes down his videos and truly shows the downfall of each character/gang
I'd really like to see a USA map but with the RDR fictional states
Only problem with that would be is the fact that they reference real world locations in game, such as New York, Baltimore, and Chicago. So like are those states real in this otherwise fictional universe or in the case of Baltimore and Chicago are the cities real but the states they reside in fictional. I know I’m reading way to much into this fictitious world, but it would seem inconsistent and weird to see that on a map
@@xannymanny9754 the way I think of it is Red Dead’s states exist in addition to the real states, however that works geographically. Where exactly that places them I have no idea.
@@IcepersonYT Near the border with Mexico
Thanks again for your help moving my fridge freezer fizhy mate appreciate it and remember pokemon legends is coming out on the 28th of this month
Roadhouse
R* did a great job when it came to their take on the civil war. Although the views of the South has problems that are very clear in todays age, that doesn't mean that every Northerner was good and every Southerner was bad.
Best example is the 2 homeless vets from Valentine and Rhodes. The Union vet turned out to be devious and shady as we found out more. But the Confederate vet turned out to be a genuine and honest person. I'm English so I don't know too much about the civil war, but i was still able to appreciate this detail
That, and a lot of the anti Southern bile came from the villainous Dutch. Though of course that's understandable as his father was killed at Gettysburg.
I also appreciate the fact that the Murfee Brood, a gang of feral, inbred hill people were located far in the north. That's a very typical southern stereotype here in America.
Great video keep up the work, I look forward to these documentary videos every time they come out
Alright i know this sounds cliche and most people who read this wont believe it (i wouldnt),but i started watching Fizhy 4 years ago when i was 10 as i loved assassins creed and he and i shared similiar viewpoints,but the special thing abt his channel for me is how as my interests changed so did his (to witcher,to red dead and mass effect) so on behalf on the community thank you Ethan!
The name in that letter you found, “William Marcus Anderson” might be a reference to the Real life Figure William “Bloody Bill” Andersen who was a bushwhacker during Bleeding Kansas, riding with a group called “Quantrill’s Raiders” who were the perpetrators of the Lawrence, Kansas Massacre. I love how they add in these small details that get over looked especially if you don’t have much knowledge of the History of Missouri and Kansas or even the Guerrilla warfare that took place between the two states.
So happy to see this series come back!
Lemoyne Raiders remind me of the rag tag confederate militias that continued on fighting after the war was initially over. They were either killed off or chased away by union patrols heading southwest.
I mean that’s what they are based off of.
As John I had an encounter with the Raiders outside of the tavern in Rhodes. Apparently there was a raider yelling and belittling a friend of his who he served with in the War. The friend became a member of society and chastised the raider for living in the past.
I absolutely love these gang documentary videos, they are great!
I actually took out their leader in chapter 2, so my personal headcanon was that Arthur had mostly just kinda forgot about them by chapter 3 because they're just such a joke in his eyes.
I can never get enough of the high quality red dead content.
I love playing rdr2 and listening to your vids and your voice is really nice thank you for these videos.
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"How about a real fight" *blam blam blam*
Giddyup
Just found your channel while getting back into rdr 2 after about 3 years and I gotta say it’s amazing keep up the great work!
I could listen to you talk about red dead lore for days. I've played since release and got 100% completion 4 times now and it still doesn't get old. I still come across things I've never seen before, like how the raiders graffiti and vandalise Saint Denis, never seen that in any of my playthroughs that i can remember! Love this game and love your content on it.
you got a shit ton of patience, the furthest I've ever got out of completion in total was 80%.
@@MrDoggy-eu2jw I'm up to 91.8% but I know I can never get 100% because my story progress is at 99% despite having finished the main story and the epilogue
@@darkcellofficialmusic did you try the challenges, side missions, and hunt all the animals. Plus on top of that you gotta find collectibles on top of that.
@@MrDoggy-eu2jw do they count for the story completion or full game completion?
@@darkcellofficialmusic full game completion
The Lamoyne Raiders are so racist that it’s comical, which brings me a lot of enjoyment. Like the stereotype racist hick is just hilarious
Believe it or not, they don’t seem so fantastical and ridiculous if you’re familiar with the American South, even to this day
@@bobcatfish2796 i mean… I live in the south, have most of my life. However North Carolina south is probably drastically different from say Georgia
@@duplicarus what part of NC? Im from the backwoods small town NC everybody is "old south" here...depends where you are in any state really, if your in Raleigh or Charlotte your not gonna see much of it.
@@christopherlambert7814 yeah definitely lived mostly in Raleigh, currently in Greenville and it’s same way. I did hear however that there was high supremacist activity on the western side of the state. Which currently reading the about what happened in NC during the civil war it makes sense. Seeing as the eastern side of the state had more union sentiment than the west, it was also where the Union started operation in NC drawing some forces from the area into the Union at the time.
@@duplicarus yea im from Western NC...the kkk marches in my hometown every June and has as for a long long time...but there are also alot of good people here too, im a gun toting country boy myself but i hate the stigma that we get cause alot of us dont have hate in our heart even though we grow up around it.
Lemoyne and the raiders are both my favourite county and gang.
So I love fighting them.
They're so organized,their hideouts and uniforms are cool.
Anyway here's my gang tier list:
1. The Lemoyne Raiders 🍋
2.The O'Driscolls
3.The Del Lobos
4.The Laremie dudes
5.Murphee brood
6.Skinner brothers
Get it right it's a terrible people along with the Murphy brood what I still have a hard time choosing which one's worse
@@B1_1_9_7_5 They never said they're good people, they just said they look cool and are more organized then the rest
@@dirtyshinobii I never said anything about them being good people
@B1 19-75 Yeah but you said "get it right they're terrible people" implying that the original commenter said they're good people
@@dirtyshinobii ?
The Lemoyne Raiders are loosely based on the Southern Guerillas from Missouri
Raiders have gotten me a few times with their Gatling gun ambushes. Happens quick and if your dead isn’t charged its pretty tough
Have literally lost 6 horses to thaf shit. May not sound like much but..... 😭my horse😭
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 I feel that. They got my white Arabian too and I couldn’t find them for revenge
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 If your horse dies and you still wanna keep it just quit the game straight away, when you load back in your horse will be alive
Man every time I play or watch someone else play RDR2... It just amazes me with the sights and sounds. 2018 was 4 years ago (not really that long ago) but nonetheless just amazing graphics.
21:16 Lmao that caught me off-guard
Dude…it’s amazing how much detail is put into the campfire npc talking
15:12 to clarify, as I understand it the Moonshiners themselves were Braithwaits, who were then going to sell the shine to the raiders.
That's why Catherine calls it "her" shine
I really like the lemoyne raiders because I like the idea of remnant forces fighting long after the war, kinda like imperial remnant in star wars.
I ambush them as early as chapter 2 and attack the house many times even though door is locked at shady belle. It more fun for me because they will try to ambush me many times with Gatlin guns on wagons or bridges on horseback.
Awesome that you're back at it again! Can't wait till you cover the O'Driscolls.
if you want to aquire the bolt action rifle early you can get it in the mission where you free sean from the bounty hunters one of them has one, its the one that you have to kill after you kill the two that you kill after trawlany's distraction
What I had taken from Red Dead Redemption 2's story and charachters is that good and bad isn't so black and white, and entirely dependant on perspective Just about every thing in the game is an example of or result of the dynamic nature of morality. The whole honor system in the game is kinda indicative of that. You aren't encouraged or discouraged to play a certain way, other than the public's perception of you, and the pride or guilt you feel after making a decision. And the game does a good job of making a player invested in the story and charachters so they do feel good or bad about their actions. You are forced to do bad things to protect your people or just to survive, and then often, later you are shown the results of those choices. You justify them the same way the corrupt sherrif or the lemoyne raiders do. You did it for the good of your tribe.
I agree to a certain extent. I love that the karma system kinda just exists, you aren't really rewarded or punished depending on any choices you make. It only fails for me when you get to the end, as they go against all of that and punish you by having the main antagonist of the game murder you because you didn't make the right choices. Feels like a missed opportunity to do something different.
I remember reading somewhere (this may not even be true so don't quote me on it, just think it's a cool idea) that the epilogue of the game would be different depending on your karma, so to better match your specific playstyle. Good karma had you playing as John, building the ranch and getting the family back as we see in the base game. But for bad karma, you'd play as Dutch, descending further into insanity whilst building the gang of Native Americans we see him within the first game, robbing banks and raising hell with them. The mentality was to reward the player regardless of their playstyle by giving them whichever ending best matches their choices. Again, may not even be true but it would've been cool to see it implemented. As is though I still think the karma system is pretty solid, certainly more so than in the first game where it really didn't matter what you did.
I will have to play through again and find out. I pretty much have neutral honor the whole game til the end, then it gives you all those opportunities to repair your honor with good deeds so that no matter how gnarly you been, you can still get the "good" ending.
I kinda wanted to go full villian next time anyways. I never achieved all the bandit challenges cus I never really did stick-ups and coach robberies. After the Valentine bank roberry, Arthur is balling and you never really need money again. Especially if you find a few treasures.
What if after the Shady Belle takeover
The Raiders Fragmented but old members make new gangs and they still call themselves the LR plus weaker gang take that title/name to seem more of a threat
Makes sense to call myself a member of something that people already fears.Thus making the raiders seem a little clustered and flustered
So technically there could be half a dozen gangs with each a different "leader" like the guy at the fort that does not get mention after the bounty mission
Maybe he was a small fry gang leader using a fake Raider member
Like it's not to be a LR -no tax ever, hate every thing different then what you are told, get yellow thingy -
Great Video Fizhy , make a list of your favorite interactions in the RDR2 there's never too rdr2 content
look at the top of the stairs it wasnt a bush, but a government building entrance
Its quite a coincidence that the guy who killed himself in Shady Belle, was on the right side of the bed, where Dutch will sleeps.
As a foreshadowing that Dutch will kill himself also in RDR1.
Slavery took time to end in Southern states... I guess this explains why that drunk man you meet outside the Rhodes mail station was actually a slave owner by 1899🤔
He didn’t own any slaves in 1899. He used to and they got taken off him and he was homeless living in Rhodes, drunk
He was actually a slave hunter. It's the old man who asks you to find his ledger, his old pistol and his pocket watch in his old house, isn't he? Jeremiah Compson was his name. The whole basement of the place was a kind of prision/punishment chamber for runaway slaves, as you can read on a journal you find there. You can also find out someone has been held captive down in the house's water well, by the marks on the walls.
I killed the bastard and left.
@@Herandro_just_Herandro My theory was that Robbie Laidlaw was a former slave hunter since his bounty only shows up after you find his old family portrait in Ol' Harry Fen
if you look in this ledger, you can see that the previous owner of shady belle had slaves, interesting detail even though it’s pretty obvious
@@scoutman66 I'm not sure, but I think the family portrait you find in Old Harry Fen belonged to Elijah, a dead slave you can find on the shoreline of Lannahechee River not to far from Shady Belle. You can loot his kind of mummified corpse and to obtain a letter to his Uncle Lewis. In the letter Elijah states that he escaped from a plantation, but was captured by a slave catcher near Rhodes. Elijah states that the slave catcher placed him inside the house (Old Harry Fen) but eventually escaped the shack.
Get this man to a million subscribers please he more than deserves it!!!!
Plenty of time
Lenny always reminded me of Hosea some times 🥲
I think I actually cried when he was shot in front of me. Definitely took me by surprise
Haven't even started the video but I love these documentarys so much
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I love how the way he says giddy-up is in the same tone as the taunt.