Just finished watching this. Great opinions, and even got to know quite a few locomotives that i didn't knew existed on the LIRR. Glad to see people getting inspired and making more 10 words or less videos.
5:10 I just love your freakout in some parts, especially in the E60 Bricks. Anyways, good compromise video between ranking and 10 words or less here Pensyfan.
I found this quite an entertaining video! I even learned that the LIRR leased an E60CP from Amtrak... for 10 days in 1983. I also learned that the LIRR once had battery-powered shuttles, streetcars, RDCs (which would have helped avoid the one-car, two-locomotive set shown at 7:56), and even what may very well be "the first diesel in revenue service in the world" (the AA-2 at 6:49)! Thanks for the information!
3:16 - The S51 looks so bizarre. It's like a tank engine version of the New Zealand Railways 'UB' class with the bunker of a GWR 72xx class. (And since when did the LIRR lease Metra and Metro North locomotives?)
Indeed, the S51 does look more like a British locomotive than an American one! Also, I'm not entirely sure why the LIRR used Metra locomotives. However, I've heard the former Metro-North FL9s used in Long Island were rebuilt into FL9ACs (which another comment to this video described as "a 5 axle F59PH with AC traction and static inverter HEP"), then sold to the LIRR in the 90s for some reason. Thanks for the comment!
This is getting popular. I’m only now getting more interested in doing a UP steam locomotive ranking of my own this summer, and then one for PM locomotives this Christmas
Great video I’m also surprised at the LIRR did they leased it or borrow for testing and Amtrak E60 and was it for the bay ridge line or Sunnyside into Penn station?
I wish it was for Bay Ridge. It was a protect for the East River tunnels in the event of an EMU stalling there, but I'm not sure why the LIRR specifically leased this engine instead of Amtrak using its own engine for protect service.
I'm surprised with LIRRs love of EMD that they didn't opt for the F125 instead of the Charger. Though it's possible EMD/Progress Rail wasn't willing or able to make a 3rd rail dual mode version of it, though apparently tier 4 diesels are allowed to run their engines in Penn (though so far that has only applied to some Amtrak Charger test trains).
I believe it also has to do with timing, since the DE/DMs were only 10 years old at the time of the F125's debut, as they weren't old enough to be replaced at the time. Likewise, LIRR might join in on the joint order with MN/CDOT For Siemens Chargers since they seem to be a more reliable model. (Fun fact: Siemens collaborated with EMD when creating the DE/DM30AC, along with other engines like the Amtrak F69PHAC, as the two companies proposed various commuter engines similar to the DE30 to various railroads across the country.)
I believe they were also supposed to be the E20 since I think the LIRR considered the F40s before the GP38. Also, the reason as to why the LIRR GP38s have a similar livery to the Milwaukee Road Bicentennial unit is because the LIRR's chief engineer was from the Milwaukee Road.
Wonderfully made video! Keep up your valuably talented work that you are doing so greatly and keep following your wonderful passions as well as having great confidence, gratitude, patience and persistence! Best wishes for you to reach your desired milestones I am glad to be supporting you along the way to help you reach your desired successes and milestones! 🙂
Ok I recognize you included the FL9s, but you missed the cursed FL9AC. It’s essentially a 5 axle F59PH with AC traction and static inverter HEP. That deserves to be on the list somewhere
I've heard of the FL9ACs, but I didn't know it was similar to the F59PH, of all machines! That, indeed, was a strange era in the LIRR's history. Thanks for the information!
@@SleepTrain456 Yeah, they were really strange locomotives. It’s not a surprise none survive. Acceleration was reported to have been excellent, earning them the nickname “Starships”.
@@blackbirdgaming8147 Mechanically I imagine the engines were similar to the F59PH, but the added AC traction essentially made them testbeds for the '30AC's. They could haul better than any F, but their reliability was shoddy, and some Metro-North crews even said they preferred the P32AC-DM's.
Fun fact: doodlebug 4669 was originally solely run on the Wilkes Barre main line from Sunbury to WB replacing steam on lighter work days, when passenger service ended on the line in 1951 it was basically ping ponged across the system and to long island a-lot.
k inda unrelated wh en you said that they should bring back double deck EMUs it made me wonder what your thoughts are on the sydney double deck EMUs? (all EMUs in sydney for decades now have been double deck btw, only single decks are intercity DMUs & the XPTs)
The more capacity the better. Double Deckers are also a bit of an overlooked category, since there aren't too many around when compared to the more conventional single level.
Just finished watching this. Great opinions, and even got to know quite a few locomotives that i didn't knew existed on the LIRR. Glad to see people getting inspired and making more 10 words or less videos.
5:10 I just love your freakout in some parts, especially in the E60 Bricks.
Anyways, good compromise video between ranking and 10 words or less here Pensyfan.
I found this quite an entertaining video! I even learned that the LIRR leased an E60CP from Amtrak... for 10 days in 1983. I also learned that the LIRR once had battery-powered shuttles, streetcars, RDCs (which would have helped avoid the one-car, two-locomotive set shown at 7:56), and even what may very well be "the first diesel in revenue service in the world" (the AA-2 at 6:49)!
Thanks for the information!
3:16 - The S51 looks so bizarre. It's like a tank engine version of the New Zealand Railways 'UB' class with the bunker of a GWR 72xx class.
(And since when did the LIRR lease Metra and Metro North locomotives?)
Indeed, the S51 does look more like a British locomotive than an American one!
Also, I'm not entirely sure why the LIRR used Metra locomotives. However, I've heard the former Metro-North FL9s used in Long Island were rebuilt into FL9ACs (which another comment to this video described as "a 5 axle F59PH with AC traction and static inverter HEP"), then sold to the LIRR in the 90s for some reason.
Thanks for the comment!
Great video!
Gotta love the camelbacks and the alco diesels
I feel like the MP70 is the embodiment of why LIRR doesn't need Bilevel EMU's. If you have 3 doors on each side, then it'd make some sense I think
I am a true fan of the GP38s and MP15s in s tier
Hell yes he actually did this!!!!!!!!!
I honestly didn't have an interest in the LIRR, but this video (And this Channel) Is giving me some interest in it. Excellent video
This is getting popular. I’m only now getting more interested in doing a UP steam locomotive ranking of my own this summer, and then one for PM locomotives this Christmas
39 and 35 both deserved to be back to life in the future!
Great video I’m also surprised at the LIRR did they leased it or borrow for testing and Amtrak E60 and was it for the bay ridge line or Sunnyside into Penn station?
I wish it was for Bay Ridge. It was a protect for the East River tunnels in the event of an EMU stalling there, but I'm not sure why the LIRR specifically leased this engine instead of Amtrak using its own engine for protect service.
I'm surprised with LIRRs love of EMD that they didn't opt for the F125 instead of the Charger. Though it's possible EMD/Progress Rail wasn't willing or able to make a 3rd rail dual mode version of it, though apparently tier 4 diesels are allowed to run their engines in Penn (though so far that has only applied to some Amtrak Charger test trains).
I believe it also has to do with timing, since the DE/DMs were only 10 years old at the time of the F125's debut, as they weren't old enough to be replaced at the time. Likewise, LIRR might join in on the joint order with MN/CDOT For Siemens Chargers since they seem to be a more reliable model. (Fun fact: Siemens collaborated with EMD when creating the DE/DM30AC, along with other engines like the Amtrak F69PHAC, as the two companies proposed various commuter engines similar to the DE30 to various railroads across the country.)
@@Pensyfan19 Siemens and EMD have worked together for years. EMD locomotives often use Siemens traction motors.
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This got me thinking. If the LIRR classified their GP38-2s and the E20 class, what would they classify the F40PH as?
I believe they were also supposed to be the E20 since I think the LIRR considered the F40s before the GP38. Also, the reason as to why the LIRR GP38s have a similar livery to the Milwaukee Road Bicentennial unit is because the LIRR's chief engineer was from the Milwaukee Road.
Wonderfully made video! Keep up your valuably talented work that you are doing so greatly and keep following your wonderful passions as well as having great confidence, gratitude, patience and persistence! Best wishes for you to reach your desired milestones I am glad to be supporting you along the way to help you reach your desired successes and milestones! 🙂
Ok I recognize you included the FL9s, but you missed the cursed FL9AC. It’s essentially a 5 axle F59PH with AC traction and static inverter HEP. That deserves to be on the list somewhere
I never knew the FL9s were rebuilt to F59PH standards. In that case, I was referring to the FL9AC in the video when I reviewed the FL9s.
I've heard of the FL9ACs, but I didn't know it was similar to the F59PH, of all machines! That, indeed, was a strange era in the LIRR's history.
Thanks for the information!
@@SleepTrain456 Yeah, they were really strange locomotives. It’s not a surprise none survive. Acceleration was reported to have been excellent, earning them the nickname “Starships”.
@@blackbirdgaming8147 Mechanically I imagine the engines were similar to the F59PH, but the added AC traction essentially made them testbeds for the '30AC's. They could haul better than any F, but their reliability was shoddy, and some Metro-North crews even said they preferred the P32AC-DM's.
7:40 C-Liners are criminally underrated, i like them 👍👍👍
They look like tiny erie builts
Fun fact: doodlebug 4669 was originally solely run on the Wilkes Barre main line from Sunbury to WB replacing steam on lighter work days, when passenger service ended on the line in 1951 it was basically ping ponged across the system and to long island a-lot.
My favorite Long Island railroad Trains are the MU M1 M3 are the best Trains 🚆 🙌
An excellent video, Pensyfan. Not quite as comical as C.U.P, but still had a good few laughs
Camel🅱️acktear pro
k inda unrelated
wh en you said that they should bring back double deck EMUs it made me wonder what your thoughts are on the sydney double deck EMUs? (all EMUs in sydney for decades now have been double deck btw, only single decks are intercity DMUs & the XPTs)
The more capacity the better. Double Deckers are also a bit of an overlooked category, since there aren't too many around when compared to the more conventional single level.
Do this with NJ transit I beg
Camelback tier is goated
In my opinion, all of LIRR’s current locomotives and cars don’t look good to me. The PRR-Subsidiary Era was probably the best of the LIRR history.
Hence my channel name highlighting this Era, albeit with a "creative" typo...
If you knew the huge rabbithole that is the Hicksville you would've put it higher muhahahah
Is camelback good or bad
Good
@@Pensyfan19 then why is it on the bottom?
@@LehrerFamilyWest It's just a different category based on how many there are, not necessarily good or bad.
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