This is undoubtedly one of the greatest summary style of videos I've seen in a while, *especially due to the shoutout at **1:04**!* Bravo! I also never knew that the GP40X and DH-1 existed until now. You also forgot to review the SD40J so this video gets a GEVO/10. /s
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video, and i did put in that reference to PRR 4663 as i enjoyed watching the Remarkable Engines series. I also was contemplating putting the SD40J on here, but i was unsure if it was a hoax or not.
@@cowlunitproductions2004 Nice to know! Apparently the SD40J is on the same website that showcased the SD70J, so it's confirmed. I believe it was listed for sale at a price of only $500,000!
GN181 switcher at 3:07 is in Whitefish, MT on display right next to the BNSF depot where I work. It's amazing it hasn't been vandalized as you can walk right up to it.
@@andrewreynolds4949 : I mean, the early GEs might have loaded slow, might have had reliability issues, and they might have been really good at blowing up, but the six-axle U-boats and -7s did look pretty cool.
@@andrewreynolds4949 I'm not a supremacist of either, but it can be pointed out that we see old EMDs all the time, while pre- Dash 9 GE's are extremely rare now.
5:32 "America's most overrated locomo- I mean, most popular locomotive?" Every F40PH fan in a 3200 mile radius: You are accused of anti- F40PH behavior, the court finds you guilty, and sentences for you to be shot.
@@capefeartrainsandsirens the locomotive isn’t used on any railroads it is a display piece in my town. It was used on the Milwaukee St. Paul and pacific railroad
I really like your videos. Mandated Passenger Variant. Every EMC/EMD locomotive. EMC started with gasoline self propelled railcars. When acquired by General Motors they entered the diesel electric locomotive industry. That moment at 5:17
I think Trains Mag did a full-length feature on the BL20-2 at some point. They were designed to recycle the chassis and electricals of GP7's and GP9's while still being a mostly-new locomotive. For some reason, though, they just couldn't make the economics of rebuilding versus starting-from-scratch work out properly in the end.
2:41 I may have actually been on that unit in Pittsburgh as a kid with my grandfather. Yard just east of Pittsburgh in the strip district. I need to find some pictures.
@@gusfring9895 Belated thanks for comment. That's why I put it in quote marks. Actually, what one could read in the sixties was that the steamwhistle-like sound was produced by an early version of an electronic horn, produced by way of a speaker that looked something like a bull-horn, visible in some photos. May not have been true of all FL-9's, which were produced in two batches of 30 units each, 1956 and 1960. Another unique feature of FL-9 was length, longer than just plain F's, shorter than E's, with two-axle truck front, three-axle truck rear. Fascinating locomotive.
I'm a retired LIRR block operator. The DE/DM 30s are called Edsels. I heard this from a yard master: The railroad waited to order more. EMD rep said "We're burning the plans as we speak."
Funny! My favorite EMC / EMD units where the Rock Island 9000 series baggage motors of 1929, the SW1 (so cute!), and the BL2. Runners up would be the streamlined power cars, NW-series, RS1325, and SDL39. Throw in the GMD1 A-1-A, A-1-A units! Hey! Those NW4s looked great on the Union to Lincoln, Nebraska locals! Mopac ran lots of GP15-1s and GP32-2s when I was a teenager.
Turns out that GMDH-3 is actually in my podunk towns's tiny lil railroad, and was the only one built, and now has a nice powdercoat blue to emphasize the 50s vibes
This video focused only on original-build EMD models, not all the assorted rebuilds companies have done over the years - if it included that the video would be an hour long. Though I'd be curious about his thoughts on the CF7 - would he like its functionality, or hate its looks?
@@quillmaurer6563 I sort of like the CF7. I'm not qualified to operate locomotives, but the biggest gripe I would have with the CF7 is the very narrow end platforms (plus the one at my local museum has had a number of radiator and head gasket issues).
Super funny video! I do recommend that if you do more videos like this in the future, subtitles. They would help immensely, especially for someone like me who’s hard of hearing.
This video will be better then all of those and I see he knows the milluawke road meme a 6:35 Now we need to find a GE and Siemens and also you should do rolling stock maybe, Along with Electric Locomotives
My personal favourite is the ML2, also known as the Victorian Railways B class. They were way ahead of their time with bulldog noses at both ends and a co-co wheel arrangement, and they are still a common sight today
the SD28-35 have the same body, except the SD28 uses a roots-blown 567C (I think 567C) compared to the SD35 using a 567D3. And ofcourse their respective passenger variants. Same with the GP line
The EMD SW1200 looks like someone put a big piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. Just like us in Michigan in cold weather. The car stays warmer
ProgressRail and or DownerEDI also had a few variants made by GM aswell that had EMD locomotives some were narrow gauge but some were also standard gauge like the GT46-AC
La Emd SDL39 sigue funcionando en chile con mejoras y nueva tecnología con 2500hp aproximadamente. Trabajan de norte a sur (fepasa) y en la región del bio-bio (transap).
Hadn't heard of the SD70J before seeing this - battery-electric variant, is that a rebuild by this Joule company or a new-build EMD model? I think that's an intriguing concept, but I think the rail context offers different challenges and different possibilities than an electric car, so the concept should be approached differently - not just a locomotive with batteries instead of prime mover. I think there's some really intriguing possibilities actually. - As energy requirements are immense though in some cases intermittent, and locomotives already use electric final drive, a series hybrid arrangement would make a lot of sense. - Batteries could be put on a tender, separate from the main locomotive, with minimal modifications to the otherwise conventional locomotive to produce the aforementioned series hybrid. Or by using said tender the batteries could be separated from the (electric or diesel-electric) locomotive for charging. As batteries are dense but not all that large, they could be low down on a flat car pushed ahead of the locomotive that the driver sees over, allowing switching the battery tender out without uncoupling from the train. - A Mother-Slug arrangement, with the mother's prime mover providing energy, the slug loaded with batteries, the batteries and prime mover both feeding all traction motors on both, resulting in a twin-unit series hybrid. - Stopping to charge isn't necessary - feeding electricity into a moving train has been mastered for decades or even centuries. A route could be partially electrified, with locomotives powered and charging the batteries using a pantograph on electrified segments, and batteries on non-electrified segments. Or likewise the main line is electrified while branch lines are not. Could use (non-battery) electric locomotives on the main line, and if it's needed to go down a non-electrified branch line bring a battery tender. - Battery helpers could make a lot of sense on major hill routes, providing some of the power for climbing alongside the conventional diesels, then almost all the dynamic/regenerative braking going down, so they are fully charged for the next train without ever needing to be charged externally. These battery-powered booster locomotives could be low-profile B units coupled in front of the normal locomotive, the driver seeing over it, so that the crew never has to move to a different cab nor does the lead locomotive need to uncouple from the train.
These Joule locomotives are going to be by Progress Rail, which bought EMD a decade ago, but Progress Rail kept the EMD brand. Yes, they're basically glorified slugs or B units with batteries stuck on to them to utilize the energy normally lost through heat during dynamic braking with diesel locomotives.
@@doimoi958 Do they have cabs? That would make them not B units. I'd imagine crews would rather be in the battery-electric locomotive than in a diesel in the same consist, as it would be much smoother and quieter without the engine. Are they slugs in that they are electrically connected to the diesel unit (making for a series hybrid) or are they fully independent locomotives? From what you're saying it sounds like it's pretty much the last of the ideas I suggested, a battery-powered helper that can capture and re-use energy that would normally be lost to dynamic braking.
@@quillmaurer6563 they should have still cared about aesthetics for passed trains. I'm sorry, but the f40ph is one butt ugly locomotive. The f40phm looks a lot better though
@@robk7266 Agreed - isn't the whole point of the fully-cowled model for passenger use to be more aesthetically pleasing than a hood unit freight locomotive? Or maybe more aerodynamic (I doubt the F40PH was that either)? If it's going to be that ugly, what is its advantage over just using the "mandatory passenger variant" GP40?
7:42 thicc but reliable
7:45 thicc but unreliable
7:48 the fuck were you doing
Well, a big engine does come with big problems.
You mean the SD80s and SD90s
Yea, that fits
3:06
This is undoubtedly one of the greatest summary style of videos I've seen in a while, *especially due to the shoutout at **1:04**!* Bravo! I also never knew that the GP40X and DH-1 existed until now.
You also forgot to review the SD40J so this video gets a GEVO/10. /s
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed the video, and i did put in that reference to PRR 4663 as i enjoyed watching the Remarkable Engines series. I also was contemplating putting the SD40J on here, but i was unsure if it was a hoax or not.
@@cowlunitproductions2004 Nice to know! Apparently the SD40J is on the same website that showcased the SD70J, so it's confirmed. I believe it was listed for sale at a price of only $500,000!
and the SD26, Guilford had some and ATSF had some. It would pretty much be "this was a thing" then move on
also missed the SD40A's
@@jenniferteffner9907 no he didn't, watch the video again.
“Mandated Passenger variant.”
*Mandated
My favorite part is the last time he said that 😂
No it’s like XD “ MANDATED PASSENGER VARIENT!!!!! ”
*Mandated!*
Being relatively new to the railfanning community I have to ask: Why do mandated passenger variants of locomotives make him so angry?
I've got three words for you
MANDATED PASSENGER VARIANT
5:19 this part made me laugh so hard that perfectly cut WHAT THE FU-
Great video btw!
The *mandated passenger variant* happens to be my favorite EMD standard cab. More specifically, the GP40P, the SDP40 and the SDP45.
Love that he doesnt say that for the Go transit gp40tc since they were made for Toronto commuter service
GN181 switcher at 3:07 is in Whitefish, MT on display right next to the BNSF depot where I work. It's amazing it hasn't been vandalized as you can walk right up to it.
The Milwaukee roa-
Now we need the GE version.
Nah, it’s all trash until 1990 (says an EMD supremacist)
@@andrewreynolds4949 : I mean, the early GEs might have loaded slow, might have had reliability issues, and they might have been really good at blowing up, but the six-axle U-boats and -7s did look pretty cool.
We got it!
@@andrewreynolds4949 I'm not a supremacist of either, but it can be pointed out that we see old EMDs all the time, while pre- Dash 9 GE's are extremely rare now.
5:32 "America's most overrated locomo- I mean, most popular locomotive?"
Every F40PH fan in a 3200 mile radius: You are accused of anti- F40PH behavior, the court finds you guilty, and sentences for you to be shot.
Love it, absolutely love it! That F40 bit had me "rolling"(pun initially not intended)XD.
Now we need every GE locomotive described
POS from Syracuse. Done.
"Crap, crap, crap, crap, 44-tonner, 70-tonner, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, crap, Dash-9, AC4400, GEVO."
As someone who helped restore an FP7 to working condition I can agree that it is an E unit but compressed
What railroad?
@@capefeartrainsandsirens the locomotive isn’t used on any railroads it is a display piece in my town. It was used on the Milwaukee St. Paul and pacific railroad
Aka Soo line (when it got merged)
"Amtraks most overrate-"
Man you really went off the deep end there lmao
4:57 I can relate. the trains are like 50 feet from my back porch and 90% of the time I get woken up at 5am by the GP40MCs loud engine tone.
What meme is that? It's hilarious!
7:21 one of my most favorite locomotive
The sd80mac is better
I really like your videos. Mandated Passenger Variant. Every EMC/EMD locomotive. EMC started with gasoline self propelled railcars. When acquired by General Motors they entered the diesel electric locomotive industry. That moment at 5:17
For the FL9, he should have said "defect detectors be an axle short yo, just saying" (5 axle engine)
5:40 *Insert Joke about relationships here*
*"W E ' R E O V E R ! ! 1 ! Y O U C H E A T E D O N M E I N M Y D R E A M ! 1 ! "*
"The livery's cool, I guess"
George Carlin voice "Fuck you, it's great."
Yes, I'm from Florida.
Sounds like the not-kid-friendly George Carlin Thomas the Tank Engine edits, which are absolutely hilarious (and I regard as 100% canon).
I like those too
And I'm also a Floridian
7:37 And now it’s getting a Passenger Variant
7:42 now we're going to a BIG MAC
I love those Sd70 series. Those are my favorite ones. The Sd70ace is one my number one favorite.❤
I think Trains Mag did a full-length feature on the BL20-2 at some point. They were designed to recycle the chassis and electricals of GP7's and GP9's while still being a mostly-new locomotive. For some reason, though, they just couldn't make the economics of rebuilding versus starting-from-scratch work out properly in the end.
Speaking about the BL20-2, the railroad I railfan bought all the BL20-2s. They still run but I haven’t seen them in a little.
iirc, the tax incentive that was driver of the concept was pulled out from under them, which, while still cheaper, mad them only marginally cheaper.
6:48 mandated passinger veriant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you've earnt my subscription, this is a fucking masterpiece
3:21, that's taken in my hometown Duluth, and I personally rode on that loco.
5:49 nfts in a nutshell
"They existed. Then they died"
Yea
2:15
Long live the Hancock air whistle
8:03 Your last reaction was exactly every true rail fans reaction to that thing was also when is the GE version of this coming out?
Nothing beats a good old EMD engine noise.
I am watching this while sitting in a UP C44AC. Thanks for the laughs!
6:35 *T H E M I L W A U K E E R O A D*
Nothing beats the roar of an SD series locomotive especially the Sd40-2
I prefer the cw60ac, i mean double the hp yo
It's the best american loco digest I've ever seen! Now waiting same video about GE and ALCO locos)))
5:18, The older GP’s reacting to the EMD GP15D & GP20D
the KCS had lots of f3s, and f7s. and E9s....well a few E9s.
i love this channel
THE Milwaukee Road
5:32 The part where Halton being shot is so funny.
Always appreciate some good train memes
Here’s a lesson don’t trigger the f40ph 5:32
EMD FP45- My fav diesel that is underrated.
Agreed
2:41 I may have actually been on that unit in Pittsburgh as a kid with my grandfather. Yard just east of Pittsburgh in the strip district. I need to find some pictures.
2:48 *that's what she said*
*this.*
Yay somebody realized gp49s exist (the alaska/cww/not florida ones are best)
YESSS THE GP40TC 👏 Also i love the little meme on the GP40TC HEP hehe
4:37 i almost got a stroke looking at that
Thanks for noting the marvelous "steam whistle" on the FL-9.
Actually, it was a Hancock air whistle; it was powered by compressed air, not steam.
A I R
@@gusfring9895 Belated thanks for comment. That's why I put it in quote marks. Actually, what one could read in the sixties was that the steamwhistle-like sound was produced by an early version of an electronic horn, produced by way of a speaker that looked something like a bull-horn, visible in some photos. May not have been true of all FL-9's, which were produced in two batches of 30 units each, 1956 and 1960. Another unique feature of FL-9 was length, longer than just plain F's, shorter than E's, with two-axle truck front, three-axle truck rear. Fascinating locomotive.
I'm a retired LIRR block operator. The DE/DM 30s are called Edsels.
I heard this from a yard master: The railroad waited to order more. EMD rep said "We're burning the plans as we speak."
SD20-2 while technically rebuilt was definitely its own class of locomotive
4:27 true
I love seeing the sd40t-2’s!!! They still run a lot by my house
Illinois Central Railroad was the only railroad to buy the SD40A
Funny! My favorite EMC / EMD units where the Rock Island 9000 series baggage motors of 1929, the SW1 (so cute!), and the BL2. Runners up would be the streamlined power cars, NW-series, RS1325, and SDL39. Throw in the GMD1 A-1-A, A-1-A units! Hey! Those NW4s looked great on the Union to Lincoln, Nebraska locals! Mopac ran lots of GP15-1s and GP32-2s when I was a teenager.
Turns out that GMDH-3 is actually in my podunk towns's tiny lil railroad, and was the only one built, and now has a nice powdercoat blue to emphasize the 50s vibes
And there was the GP 38-3 as designed and built by the Huntington CSX Heavy Maintenance Shop. All electronic suite with enhanced tractive effort.
And an ugly cab
This video focused only on original-build EMD models, not all the assorted rebuilds companies have done over the years - if it included that the video would be an hour long. Though I'd be curious about his thoughts on the CF7 - would he like its functionality, or hate its looks?
@@quillmaurer6563 I sort of like the CF7. I'm not qualified to operate locomotives, but the biggest gripe I would have with the CF7 is the very narrow end platforms (plus the one at my local museum has had a number of radiator and head gasket issues).
We need more triclops! Those were the days man!
Super funny video! I do recommend that if you do more videos like this in the future, subtitles. They would help immensely, especially for someone like me who’s hard of hearing.
2:57 this is the diesel equivalent of the MILWAUKEE ROADS *BIPOLARS*
This video will be better then all of those and I see he knows the milluawke road meme a 6:35 Now we need to find a GE and Siemens and also you should do rolling stock maybe, Along with Electric Locomotives
great train video
My personal favourite is the ML2, also known as the Victorian Railways B class. They were way ahead of their time with bulldog noses at both ends and a co-co wheel arrangement, and they are still a common sight today
I like the way I'm sitting at a restaurant less than 1 quarter of a mile from this locomotive 3:08 (Whitefish, MT)
Don't do Tri-Rails GP49's like that, Its true but seriously
I love the e/f units. And I live In Michigan near where the gmdh-3 is. You should make a edit of all the time you say mandated passenger variant
Every mandated passenger variant:
4:46
6:27
6:43
6:48
3:13
6:44
*"JEEZ WHY IS THAT THING SO LONG?!"*
Beautiful work man
4:54
2:28 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
*"YOU ARE SO SMA-"*
Absolutely appropriate response to the battery powered locomotive
2:34 This one operated in my state (Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil)!
You forgot gp10 and gp 11 and sd20 and sw1300 and sw14 and gp8
6:38 Wisconsin Central 7525 is at the Illinois railway museum
2:28 the model 40 is like a little baby train. That is like adorable.
the SD28-35 have the same body, except the SD28 uses a roots-blown 567C (I think 567C) compared to the SD35 using a 567D3. And ofcourse their respective passenger variants. Same with the GP line
2:28, EMD Model 40
Heavy from TF2: *”YOU ARE SO SMALL!”*
The EMD SW1200 looks like someone put a big piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. Just like us in Michigan in cold weather. The car stays warmer
SD70IAC: "why do we're exist anyway"
SD70ACE-P4: "so they make B-B wheel arrangement variant in the 6 axle locomotive"
ProgressRail and or DownerEDI also had a few variants made by GM aswell that had EMD locomotives some were narrow gauge but some were also standard gauge like the GT46-AC
And this genset deiseil shunters specifically GP15d and GP20d were rebuilt from older GP20s and GP15ts and GP15t-1s
3:52 MP15T is a turbo unit, not a tunnel motor
I know where you got the pic of the GN NW5 from , it’s a picture from Duluth MN at the depot
i really like your adding skill XD nice video!
BTW you blook's like miss the SD18...?
NVM you mention it
KCS had 4 rare SD40 X that looked like SD50S
La Emd SDL39 sigue funcionando en chile con mejoras y nueva tecnología con 2500hp aproximadamente. Trabajan de norte a sur (fepasa) y en la región del bio-bio (transap).
Good music choice and great memes!
Hadn't heard of the SD70J before seeing this - battery-electric variant, is that a rebuild by this Joule company or a new-build EMD model? I think that's an intriguing concept, but I think the rail context offers different challenges and different possibilities than an electric car, so the concept should be approached differently - not just a locomotive with batteries instead of prime mover. I think there's some really intriguing possibilities actually.
- As energy requirements are immense though in some cases intermittent, and locomotives already use electric final drive, a series hybrid arrangement would make a lot of sense.
- Batteries could be put on a tender, separate from the main locomotive, with minimal modifications to the otherwise conventional locomotive to produce the aforementioned series hybrid. Or by using said tender the batteries could be separated from the (electric or diesel-electric) locomotive for charging. As batteries are dense but not all that large, they could be low down on a flat car pushed ahead of the locomotive that the driver sees over, allowing switching the battery tender out without uncoupling from the train.
- A Mother-Slug arrangement, with the mother's prime mover providing energy, the slug loaded with batteries, the batteries and prime mover both feeding all traction motors on both, resulting in a twin-unit series hybrid.
- Stopping to charge isn't necessary - feeding electricity into a moving train has been mastered for decades or even centuries. A route could be partially electrified, with locomotives powered and charging the batteries using a pantograph on electrified segments, and batteries on non-electrified segments. Or likewise the main line is electrified while branch lines are not. Could use (non-battery) electric locomotives on the main line, and if it's needed to go down a non-electrified branch line bring a battery tender.
- Battery helpers could make a lot of sense on major hill routes, providing some of the power for climbing alongside the conventional diesels, then almost all the dynamic/regenerative braking going down, so they are fully charged for the next train without ever needing to be charged externally. These battery-powered booster locomotives could be low-profile B units coupled in front of the normal locomotive, the driver seeing over it, so that the crew never has to move to a different cab nor does the lead locomotive need to uncouple from the train.
These Joule locomotives are going to be by Progress Rail, which bought EMD a decade ago, but Progress Rail kept the EMD brand. Yes, they're basically glorified slugs or B units with batteries stuck on to them to utilize the energy normally lost through heat during dynamic braking with diesel locomotives.
@@doimoi958 Do they have cabs? That would make them not B units. I'd imagine crews would rather be in the battery-electric locomotive than in a diesel in the same consist, as it would be much smoother and quieter without the engine. Are they slugs in that they are electrically connected to the diesel unit (making for a series hybrid) or are they fully independent locomotives? From what you're saying it sounds like it's pretty much the last of the ideas I suggested, a battery-powered helper that can capture and re-use energy that would normally be lost to dynamic braking.
5:04 how is Florida a desert. BRUH I LIVE THERE AND I HAVENT DIED OF HEAT STROKE
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Mp stands for multi purpose 4 axle 3:41
What about their electrics? The GM6C or the AEM-7?
And F40Ph based on GP40 albeit with full width body re-geared for passenger service and Head-end-power (HEP)
The Milwaukee road The Milwaukee road The Milwaukee road The Milwaukee road
Who summoned me by saying the Milwaukee Road
BRO what are wrong with the Chessie system SD50?!!
FP7 exists. Think there was also GP29s and SD29s.
2:17 heh we still got one in frequent service up north on the Hobo RR. (They’re awful warning devices)
And that deiseil shunter is looks like merged/a combined version of the GP20 and with the long-hood of the genset deiseil shunter
5:24 When EMD forgot aerodynamics exist
When EMD realized that American trains weren't going fast anymore, nor did anyone care about looks like they used to, so brick it is...
@@quillmaurer6563 they should have still cared about aesthetics for passed trains. I'm sorry, but the f40ph is one butt ugly locomotive.
The f40phm looks a lot better though
@@robk7266 Agreed - isn't the whole point of the fully-cowled model for passenger use to be more aesthetically pleasing than a hood unit freight locomotive? Or maybe more aerodynamic (I doubt the F40PH was that either)? If it's going to be that ugly, what is its advantage over just using the "mandatory passenger variant" GP40?
Can we get a GE version?
No