@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Its the truth man! If you started your own channel, you'd be just as popular as Warren Huart. Plugin Alliance and Warm are lucky to have ya!
I bought SSL E when it was on sale a while back. It honestly is incredible. I use it for my drums in the black mode and nothing else compares. You get a super meaty kick but the muddiness disappears completely, and the snare stops being harsh on the ears. I don't even apply almost any EQ, it just works like magic in default. It's hard to imagine doing drums without this plugin.
The SSL 9000j is absolutely incredible as it brings the whole mix to life with a more three-dimensional sound. I love this series on consoles, I hope for more! Thx Joe 👍👍👍
Yeah! I'll be coppin that J series next sale. What an awesome desk. Thanks very much for this video. Now I know EXACTLY WHY I want all 3. Very straight forward and insightful. Thanks for the sharing your knowledge.
@@PluginAllianceTV I’m confused. When the E curve is selected on the 9000J is it the exact same curve from the 4000 E? With the extended top and bottom?
Great presentation. So clearly highlights the different sounds of the consoles. I'm happy to have all three. I wish they wouldn't play the background music for the WHOLE video as he's talking. I wanted to keep my ears focused on the tracks and what he was saying. Very distracting and unnecessary for me, but he is great and the information is much appreciated.
Once again great tutorial from Joe Carrell , thank you for this Plugin Alliance. Discovered him through this channel, my bad definitely ... Been listening to his mixes ever since , great work sir ! Thank you.
3:028:23 Joe, for some odd reason the BX4K comes default with both filters engaged. Try disengaging the low pass filter by click the led and the top end will feel much more open!
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I agree with the opinion I've read that the G is more mid-focused. Listening through this video back and forth I understand why E is more popular - it sounds a bit more scooped (?), more bass and a bit more open which makes it easier to like on the first listen. G sounds a bit crunchy or something in the mids, I don't agree with the opinions I've read on forums that G sounds cleaner than E, I think it is the opposite way around. I've read that Tony Maserati said for him "G is for Grit, Grind and Gain" and I understand kind of what he means hearing this video. Listening to the end shootout I prefer E on kick and G on snare. I bought G because in my opinion I would prefer the the midrange for punk rock music. I really like the E-eq from Slate though and will use it wherever I prefer it over the G's two eq:s. Terrific shootout. I think I have a grip of the difference between the consoles now!
@@mikehunt576 I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and take you seriously: There are numerous reasons to not use cracks: 1. It is not free. Don't confuse stealing something with something being offered for free. Do unto others... 2. If everyone uses crack software, the devs will have no business and they will cease to be able to develop and service product. 3. People who use crack software rarely value the software. They will always be looking to download the newer and better cracks of newer or different software. The result of the pillage is that the users never get to know any one tool with the intimacy and respect that is required. They are too busy fiddling around with tools that they don't know or which have bugs, instead of using paid for tools that they learn well to actually get on with making music. The knock on effect is that they are less productive. The quality of tool use is low resulting in the user not reaching potential. IMHO, a better way, if you are broke ass or a cheap skate who wishes to avoid being a thief, is to choose from the plethora of excellent software tools that are available for free and get to know them well. Then crack on with making music, not downloading cracks.
@@lastkissrecords412 there are even more benefits with using cracks I heard as well, like no stupid ilk dongles, free-dome, start up faster, cheaper, look sexier and best of all PRIVACY (no online verification bs with all the privacy concerns out there) , solution to be a successful studio owner with cracks is to "stay off line and your fine"..... the middle of the road solution for developers of these apps is to BRING THE PRICES DOWN, its why APPLE is a Suksex.
Hi Joe, I have a question that is not related to the videos topic. I am wondering if you are using (2) S3 next to each other? If so, how did you configure ? I currently use S3 and the Dock. I would like to have 32 faders if it is possible. Sorry not have a question about the SSL. However, I am a yearly subscriber to the plugs of Plugin Alliance.
Not Joe, but he's using 2 Artist Mix controllers, not 2 S3s. You can tell because the S3 has two rows of knobs and more buttons. The Artist Mix controllers are easy to organize and link together with the EUCON
Bozz yes sir it is indeed two of the artist series things together. Although the power supply on one of them burned out several months ago. Haha. So I’m down to 8 faders right now.
Very revealing......I would never put a ch strip on a mix, but it does reveal the overall character of each. I now get why a lot of people are seduced by the 9000J. It's SO glassy and silky on the top, and the bottom is indeed phat!. By comparison the G (the only SSL I have) almost sounds nasally in the mids. The E has punchier bottom than the G. I mainly got the G because I wanted that sound for snare and elec gtrs. The E may have been a better overall choice, but I'm happy with the G....and what it lacks is covered by the Console N and Focusrite Console ;:-)
However, SSL E doesn't really seem to work for me as a master plugin for the entire mix, it doesn't quite come out right. Perhaps I should give SSL J a try.
I'd love to say these sound great, but the fact that there's bg music going on when Joe is talking really takes you out of the short-term memory of what you just heard. Whomever is producing these should consider silence more.
he probably dialed up the settings on the E and then copied to the other models. If he had made his initial settings on the 9K it might have turned out different I assume..
Marten Thielges I believe you are right Martin. We actually filmed that a few months ago so it’s hard to remember for sure, but I think I quickly dialed in some eq (with some hype) on the 4000E and copied that to every other plug.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell thanks for confirming.. They all sound nice and I think you did a very good job showing the differences! Was positively surprised by the orange knob - very nice top end there, reminded me of old Siemens w295 eq's
When i hear “drive the console” and “saturation” my head hits a wall. There are so many variables to a sound in the analog domain that interact with circuitry than a digital counterparts algorithm to even come close to emulating. Maybe someone who writes these algos to elaborate.
Nobody cares anymore friend. Does the plugin sound good? Yes. Cool. Move on. The only thing I miss from the 4k G I worked on are the faders and knobs. Sound - I have so, so much more colors now in the box.
@@mrGood-84 Hi friend, I appreciate your response, one that doesn't care about the technical and uses ears and emotion. Fair enough. But, not the answer I was looking to get when I asked the question.
@@KevinStCroix it's 2020. We are able to create near perfect humanoid faces via CGI. We have artificial intelligence. This is nothing in comparison. Emulations down to component level have been evolving and improving constantly for many years now. It's perfectly understandable to hear people talk as if they were actually using a console. Even CLA does it in his in-the-box videos for various outlets, and pretty much no one has spent more time mixing on an actual SSL than him I would assume. If you have a lot of technical questions, I'd say the best approach is to send an e-mail to some of the people who actually program the plug-ins instead of writing a comment like that on a promo/tutorial video.
Kevin St Croix good morning Kevin. I’m not sure what else I would call it 😂. Plug-in alliance and others have been modeling the harmonic distortion characteristics of preamps/line inputs for several years now and I feel it was one of the big missing links for me to switching totally in the box. Whatever you decide to call it, I’m very happy with the adjustable harmonic distortion built into the SSL plug in family in this vid. Take care. ✌🏼
This isn’t the Waves version. Modeling has improved a lot over the years and those variables are not only completely understood, they are included. Every instantiation of the plugin slightly varies the circuit tolerances just like real console channels, so they are not exactly the same. This is based on both the understanding of component tolerances in real world applications but based on original specs. Maybe your head has hit walls too many times and you’re having trouble thinking. Try the plugin and see for yourself before making these statements.
not very interesting cause SSL has now released native plugs, already cracked and circulating...way better then braindead junk...I guess you all can kiss these cheesy plugs here good bye lol
Joe Carrell is honestly a pretty damn good brand ambassador.
Todd McKernan I appreciate that Todd 👊🏼👊🏼
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Its the truth man! If you started your own channel, you'd be just as popular as Warren Huart. Plugin Alliance and Warm are lucky to have ya!
@@todddammit4628 i second to that, it is not too technical and very straight forward
+1
I bought SSL E when it was on sale a while back. It honestly is incredible.
I use it for my drums in the black mode and nothing else compares. You get a super meaty kick but the muddiness disappears completely, and the snare stops being harsh on the ears. I don't even apply almost any EQ, it just works like magic in default. It's hard to imagine doing drums without this plugin.
The SSL 9000j is absolutely incredible as it brings the whole mix to life with a more three-dimensional sound. I love this series on consoles, I hope for more! Thx Joe 👍👍👍
Joe is the best demonstrator for Plugin Alliance channel strips!!! Great videos!
Wow! Tremendous! Great tutorial on the SSL plugins. Joe has such a great way of teaching. Keep them coming :)
Will do. Once again, thanks for the awesome support!
Yeah! I'll be coppin that J series next sale. What an awesome desk. Thanks very much for this video. Now I know EXACTLY WHY I want all 3. Very straight forward and insightful. Thanks for the sharing your knowledge.
That's really amazing feedback. Thank you!
I love this guy, hope he can do more videos in future
That E-curve on the SSL 9000 J is ridiculously good. It really helped make that song more 3-D and "open" compared to the other SSLs.
That's really nice feedback. Thanks for your support and sharing your experience!
@@PluginAllianceTV I’m confused. When the E curve is selected on the 9000J is it the exact same curve from the 4000 E? With the extended top and bottom?
Recently bought the 9000j and i am in love with it specially on my vocals!
Cool, thanks for sharing and enjoy your sessions!
Great presentation. So clearly highlights the different sounds of the consoles. I'm happy to have all three. I wish they wouldn't play the background music for the WHOLE video as he's talking. I wanted to keep my ears focused on the tracks and what he was saying. Very distracting and unnecessary for me, but he is great and the information is much appreciated.
Once again great tutorial from Joe Carrell , thank you for this Plugin Alliance.
Discovered him through this channel, my bad definitely ... Been listening to his mixes ever since , great work sir ! Thank you.
Thanks for the nice feedback!
3:02 8:23 Joe, for some odd reason the BX4K comes default with both filters engaged.
Try disengaging the low pass filter by click the led and the top end will feel much more open!
SSL 4000E works great on rock & agressive music. But on more softer and acoustic music, for depth, I prefer the Console N. I didn't try the 9000 yet.
Thanks for the great feedback and sharing your experience!
Really great little video this one, so well taught. Thanks!
Im using Ssl j for almost 2 years now , and very happy , im interested in G now , snare really pops out!
We're glad to hear the magic is working for you. Thanks for the great feedback!
More of Joe... love his talks
David! Which one do you use on your music? The 9000j the 4000e or the 4000g?
This guy is a catch! Would be really great to be able to hear the different examples without any interruption, though.
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GREAT VIDEO!
This was incredibly helpful! Great video - thanks!
Thanks Joe, did you use the channelstrips on the mix bus only or on individual tracks for demonstration ? Cheers Alex
Alex Olivari good morning Alex. The plugs were directly on each of the individual tracks you hear. Not The sub groups or stereo buss.
I'm really liking the song used to demo these plugins! Anybody know what it is?
because of these videos im buying the complete bundle lol Thanks boys! i need to change it up
Awesome, enjoy your sessions!
I love Joe Carrell!
Achase4u thank you!!!
Why doesn't the G-channels have a switch to bring the E's EQ over?
The low end on the 4000G is simply the best…..possibly the high end too….i like the 4000 G the best actually
This is great Joe!
Which do use for electric ɓass?
now i need to make a summery with all the consoles ^^
Bonzvy I did 👊🏼👊🏼✌🏼✌🏼th-cam.com/video/ozz0Mf_tclc/w-d-xo.html
Very helpful ! Thanks !
I agree with the opinion I've read that the G is more mid-focused. Listening through this video back and forth I understand why E is more popular - it sounds a bit more scooped (?), more bass and a bit more open which makes it easier to like on the first listen. G sounds a bit crunchy or something in the mids, I don't agree with the opinions I've read on forums that G sounds cleaner than E, I think it is the opposite way around. I've read that Tony Maserati said for him "G is for Grit, Grind and Gain" and I understand kind of what he means hearing this video. Listening to the end shootout I prefer E on kick and G on snare. I bought G because in my opinion I would prefer the the midrange for punk rock music. I really like the E-eq from Slate though and will use it wherever I prefer it over the G's two eq:s.
Terrific shootout. I think I have a grip of the difference between the consoles now!
Thanks for the insight. It will help me get the most out of these great VSTs.
try pirate bay
@@mikehunt576 I don't follow you. I pay for software because logic dictates this. Now FO.
@@nolanchiat3810 why pay when its free?lol
@@mikehunt576 I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and take you seriously:
There are numerous reasons to not use cracks:
1. It is not free. Don't confuse stealing something with something being offered for free. Do unto others...
2. If everyone uses crack software, the devs will have no business and they will cease to be able to develop and service product.
3. People who use crack software rarely value the software. They will always be looking to download the newer and better cracks of newer or different software. The result of the pillage is that the users never get to know any one tool with the intimacy and respect that is required. They are too busy fiddling around with tools that they don't know or which have bugs, instead of using paid for tools that they learn well to actually get on with making music. The knock on effect is that they are less productive. The quality of tool use is low resulting in the user not reaching potential.
IMHO, a better way, if you are broke ass or a cheap skate who wishes to avoid being a thief, is to choose from the plethora of excellent software tools that are available for free and get to know them well. Then crack on with making music, not downloading cracks.
@@lastkissrecords412 there are even more benefits with using cracks I heard as well, like no stupid ilk dongles, free-dome, start up faster, cheaper, look sexier and best of all PRIVACY (no online verification bs with all the privacy concerns out there) , solution to be a successful studio owner with cracks is to "stay off line and your fine".....
the middle of the road solution for developers of these apps is to BRING THE PRICES DOWN, its why APPLE is a Suksex.
Joe as always, great to learn from your xp!!!!
Hi Joe, I have a question that is not related to the videos topic. I am wondering if you are using (2) S3 next to each other? If so, how did you configure ? I currently use S3 and the Dock. I would like to have 32 faders if it is possible. Sorry not have a question about the SSL. However, I am a yearly subscriber to the plugs of Plugin Alliance.
Not Joe, but he's using 2 Artist Mix controllers, not 2 S3s. You can tell because the S3 has two rows of knobs and more buttons. The Artist Mix controllers are easy to organize and link together with the EUCON
Anton Doty Ok. Thank you for your help !
Bozz yes sir it is indeed two of the artist series things together. Although the power supply on one of them burned out several months ago. Haha. So I’m down to 8 faders right now.
Joe Carrell, cool. Hopefully you get that power supply replaced soon... I really enjoy the S3, I only wish they would allow a second one
Hey whats up guys!, I wonder what's the name of the monitors next to the NS-10 ? Tank you :)
Thanks for the video.. Sounds killer..
Great video!
Very revealing......I would never put a ch strip on a mix, but it does reveal the overall character of each.
I now get why a lot of people are seduced by the 9000J. It's SO glassy and silky on the top, and the bottom is indeed phat!. By comparison the G (the only SSL I have) almost sounds nasally in the mids. The E has punchier bottom than the G. I mainly got the G because I wanted that sound for snare and elec gtrs. The E may have been a better overall choice, but I'm happy with the G....and what it lacks is covered by the Console N and Focusrite Console ;:-)
However, SSL E doesn't really seem to work for me as a master plugin for the entire mix, it doesn't quite come out right. Perhaps I should give SSL J a try.
(These aren't designed as master bus plugins, but as individual channel plugins)
What song is this?
I don’t even remember 😂. Something I was mixing several months back. Best wishes Ben.
Are these vst or livе drums used in this track?
4000 e black knob and 4000g orange knob sounds best to me. The worst one for me was 9000 j(e curve)
Make Joe your product spokesperson 🎙️ Just like Joe Gilder with Studio One.
When does Don Henley start singing?
Haha. I wish!!! One of my all time faves.
You're a great tutor / demo engineer!
I want Joe to be my friend.
I'd love to say these sound great, but the fact that there's bg music going on when Joe is talking really takes you out of the short-term memory of what you just heard. Whomever is producing these should consider silence more.
For the kind of music. SSL E wins
I don’t know the bottom of that SSL J feels good *pause*
@@DJNaz4You the mids are muddy on the J
he probably dialed up the settings on the E and then copied to the other models.
If he had made his initial settings on the 9K it might have turned out different I assume..
Marten Thielges I believe you are right Martin. We actually filmed that a few months ago so it’s hard to remember for sure, but I think I quickly dialed in some eq (with some hype) on the 4000E and copied that to every other plug.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell thanks for confirming.. They all sound nice and I think you did a very good job showing the differences!
Was positively surprised by the orange knob - very nice top end there, reminded me of old Siemens w295 eq's
When i hear “drive the console” and “saturation” my head hits a wall. There are so many variables to a sound in the analog domain that interact with circuitry than a digital counterparts algorithm to even come close to emulating. Maybe someone who writes these algos to elaborate.
Nobody cares anymore friend. Does the plugin sound good? Yes. Cool. Move on.
The only thing I miss from the 4k G I worked on are the faders and knobs. Sound - I have so, so much more colors now in the box.
@@mrGood-84 Hi friend, I appreciate your response, one that doesn't care about the technical and uses ears and emotion. Fair enough. But, not the answer I was looking to get when I asked the question.
@@KevinStCroix it's 2020. We are able to create near perfect humanoid faces via CGI. We have artificial intelligence. This is nothing in comparison. Emulations down to component level have been evolving and improving constantly for many years now. It's perfectly understandable to hear people talk as if they were actually using a console. Even CLA does it in his in-the-box videos for various outlets, and pretty much no one has spent more time mixing on an actual SSL than him I would assume. If you have a lot of technical questions, I'd say the best approach is to send an e-mail to some of the people who actually program the plug-ins instead of writing a comment like that on a promo/tutorial video.
Kevin St Croix good morning Kevin. I’m not sure what else I would call it 😂. Plug-in alliance and others have been modeling the harmonic distortion characteristics of preamps/line inputs for several years now and I feel it was one of the big missing links for me to switching totally in the box. Whatever you decide to call it, I’m very happy with the adjustable harmonic distortion built into the SSL plug in family in this vid. Take care. ✌🏼
This isn’t the Waves version. Modeling has improved a lot over the years and those variables are not only completely understood, they are included. Every instantiation of the plugin slightly varies the circuit tolerances just like real console channels, so they are not exactly the same. This is based on both the understanding of component tolerances in real world applications but based on original specs. Maybe your head has hit walls too many times and you’re having trouble thinking. Try the plugin and see for yourself before making these statements.
not very interesting cause SSL has now released native plugs, already cracked and circulating...way better then braindead junk...I guess you all can kiss these cheesy plugs here good bye lol