LTC3 Smash4 - TSM | ZeRo (Sheik, Roy) vs Boreal | Ally (Meta Knight, Lucina) - Grand Finals

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ความคิดเห็น • 194

  • @LunarySSF2
    @LunarySSF2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    ROY WON A MAJOR
    ROY'S OUR BOY

    • @Person-ts9dy
      @Person-ts9dy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know I’m 4 years late, but it doesn’t count unless it’s solo Roy and no other characters

  • @IinesySankka
    @IinesySankka 9 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Wow ZeRo's actually playing our boy... *Heavy breathing* Can't wait to see more of that in the future

    • @siLveRscOpe13x
      @siLveRscOpe13x 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +iinesySankka If you know Oracle well, though, you think it's hilarious. But I can see why someone who's not familiar with the local scene may not enjoy it as much. Lol.

    • @siLveRscOpe13x
      @siLveRscOpe13x 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +iinesySankka If you know Oracle well, though, you think it's hilarious. But I can see why someone who's not familiar with the local scene may not enjoy it as much. Lol.

  • @RemyDyte
    @RemyDyte 9 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Sakurai needs to nerf ZeRo

  • @pepsiman6721
    @pepsiman6721 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    ZeRo plays as a top tier at LOW TEIR CITY

    • @Gavenchyy
      @Gavenchyy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      IKR

    • @bagfaceman1656
      @bagfaceman1656 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Meta knight is top tier too

    • @123till321
      @123till321 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +BagFaceMan Not in this game. He's about mid, if i remember correctly.

    • @bagfaceman1656
      @bagfaceman1656 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Kalli T he's at the bottom of high tier, therefore he is in the top tier

    • @bandie8224
      @bandie8224 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +BagFaceMan bottom of high is still high tier

  • @Dankyjrthethird
    @Dankyjrthethird 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    HOLY FUCK THESE COMMENTATORS ARE SO GOOD WOW I'M AMAZED MOVE OVER D1 TKBREEZY EE ARE SCRUB TIER TIME TO RETIRE LOL SUCH COMMENTARY MUCH HYPE SO EXCITE WOW

  • @bananiel7271
    @bananiel7271 9 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Ally has a better MK than Leo imo.

    • @alfanauta
      @alfanauta 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      DaanRawks Pfff i didn't saw the "better" part anywhere.

    • @deadforever99
      @deadforever99 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +alfanauta * see

    • @ftank9083
      @ftank9083 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      DaanRawks His combos were clearly not on point.. He couldn't even do the up-air strings into up-B correctly, which is what can kill really early in this matchup

    • @bananiel7271
      @bananiel7271 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Francis Beauchemin It was also the only thing he was going for. Only using one reliable kill setup can be punished easily. Mr. R was most likely choking. One of the only reasons people thought his play was amazing (Leo) Was because the up air string to up b was flashy and looked cool.

    • @blackout1524
      @blackout1524 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      DaanRawks Uair to Up B is reliable as fuck get outta here. If you can't uair to up b nevermind uair combo to up b death then your MK ain't worth shit.

  • @edwinvargas7969
    @edwinvargas7969 9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    People are catching up to Zero, the matches are getting closer since Apex 2015

    • @pendalink
      @pendalink 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Edwin Vargas well, evo wasn't a good indicator of that at all, but smash con was. I just hope he doesn't lose until someone is actually at his level

    • @edwinvargas7969
      @edwinvargas7969 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      pendalink Well Nairo was really close to winning two matches at EVO, but he missed his punishes, and since CEO he definitely has shown more stage control now. Mr. R couldn't handle Zero's Diddy once more since APEX, and Zero never brought out the Sheik. Though I don't think Zero would have picked sheik since he doesn't really go for the sheik dittos. ESAM got one game off Zero at CEO, and at SmashCon he almost took the game entirely. Ally completely choked at EVO against Zero, but at Low Tier City 3 he was close with both Mario and MK. The Japanese players like Abadango and Rain are still not able to hold much of a candle against Zero, though we have yet to see whether Ranai has any possibility of matching Zero with his Villager, I think he might show up at APEX 2016 though. Other than that, there were some people at Low Tier City 3 that were doing surprisingly well against Zero like the Mario and Rosalina, which shows that even players who are not always winning bigger tournaments are growing rapidly. Also, NAKAT did surprisingly well against Zero in Top 32 at SmashCon, almost winning both sets with Pikachu, which is a far cry against his performance in EVO where he lost to John Numbers, and later to a lucario, I believe, in pools. Can't think of anyone else who has shown improvement with Zero as the measuring stick lol

    • @edwinvargas7969
      @edwinvargas7969 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Turnabout Gaming that's an overstatement to say they can't willfully take stocks from Zero. It is true that in most cases the first games tend to be the closest, but it's also true that ESAM proved otherwise at SmashCon. I believe that kind of result shows that the days of Zero not dropping games at tournaments is coming to a close, and eventually he will have to work much harder and need more luck to keep his position as champion. Props to Zero for keeping it up this long, but I believe people are really growing at a really fast pace.

    • @pendalink
      @pendalink 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      his adaptability is amazing, although it was clear at smash con that he wasn'tt doing that his best

    • @RecordToDeathToBoredom
      @RecordToDeathToBoredom 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      pendalink I wouldn't say that he wasn't doing his best at smash con. All those times where he was VERY close to death from ESAM, those were moments where regular players would die. ZeRo though? He was able to get away by even the SLIGHTEST cm from ESAM's killing attacks. Just watch it again and you'll see. The video where he was about to lose of course.
      Basically what I'm saying is, just because he's losing, doesn't mean he's not at his best.
      He's just struggling with the unfamiliarity (like everyone else). And then when he finds the patterns and thinks of how to counter them (given that ESAM had to win loser's before coming back), he can play more comfortably against the opponent. Adjustments =/= You're playing better. You're just playing differently.

  • @dennisdeez123
    @dennisdeez123 9 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I am the only ally fan, I became aware if him from his Ike in pm it is so goddamn sexy

    • @demaclio
      @demaclio 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fighting WireFrame Same here. I'm not as much of a fan of him though, but his Ike is amazing.

    • @a-vm7184
      @a-vm7184 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fighting WireFrame YES! first time seeing him was the video where he destroys m2k. he was so on point and I became a fan immediately haha

    • @DemonEyeHelix
      @DemonEyeHelix 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      a-vm same! gotta remember though, M2K: Ike is broken thats so stupid

    • @puppystylexd
      @puppystylexd 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dennis Fleitz and then they nerfed the side-b multi wall jump and Ally was sad

    • @mugenpm9979
      @mugenpm9979 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      nyricanjr
      He hasn't had multiple wall jumps since pre-3.02, and in 3.02, he only had 2 wall jumps, and in 3.5, it became 1. And 3.5 is the match he is referring too.

  • @Miracle7SSF2
    @Miracle7SSF2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:35 I love how they both reach for their noses.

  • @zachdevries4695
    @zachdevries4695 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    why does this commentater shit his pants with laughter at everyting

    • @TOTZHD
      @TOTZHD 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude I know, I hate it, it's so obnoxious :-|

    • @brandonjuno
      @brandonjuno 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Zach Devries these two find themselves so goddamn funny. it's literally why i'm not subscribed anymore. can't take it XD

  • @lupin6741
    @lupin6741 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Does somebody know where I can find a clip of LTC3 losing their shit when they unlock the Mute City trophy?

    • @lupin6741
      @lupin6741 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Danny Pham It's apparently something to brag about. I honestly don't know.

  • @Namigumere
    @Namigumere 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    legends say every time zero wins a tourney, he grows a chin

  • @SendFoodz
    @SendFoodz 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think its cool Zero is this Shonen manga level character that never ever loses. everyone loves watching Kirito fight cause he's badass. I get that vibe watching Zero fight, cept he's this real life character

  • @tvsoup4405
    @tvsoup4405 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    zero has such a huge understanding of the game.

  • @realbluespeed72
    @realbluespeed72 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's official. Roy's my new favorite and #1 character in Smash.

  • @sandybebeop
    @sandybebeop 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it's nice to see ZeRo playing Roy even if it was for fun. Though he clearly isn't a roy main he has the basics down(kind of like Ally with Marth) he didn't use Dancing Blade, used Dair like crazy, tried to do the Sheik Fair combos XD, either way good play by both.

    • @sandybebeop
      @sandybebeop 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John Mateo I'd hope so. XD, I mean I consider myself a competent Roy. It still doesn't Change the fact that mistakes are mistakes.

    • @NuDudeKJ
      @NuDudeKJ 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ghetto Ninja Roy's Fair Strings are pretty legit off stage. Seen a few Fair, Fair, Jump, Fair combos to close games out

  • @qballlllll
    @qballlllll 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Its like a soccer ball against a Mexican player. You just cant win"
    Am i the only one who noticed this and thought it was jokingly racist? xD

    • @matthewbarberio8832
      @matthewbarberio8832 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      take it as a complimented

    • @MotherLoverx3
      @MotherLoverx3 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nothing racist about saying Mexicans play soccer. Mexicans do in fact play soccer lol

  • @DevinD92714
    @DevinD92714 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven't watched one of these since like November

  • @drae7706
    @drae7706 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tourney is called low tier city so ally goes with 2 low tiers then zero goes with the highest off the tiers and a tbd tier

    • @TheReplayRemake
      @TheReplayRemake 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Meta knight isn't low tier lol and Roy is borderline mid high

    • @drae7706
      @drae7706 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      i didnt see the August tier list when i wrote the comment so last i remembered he was still kinda low

    • @ItsKageyamaReiji
      @ItsKageyamaReiji 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      There isnt a widely agreed upon tier list in america especially with patches changing things, most people only have an idea of top tier with the rest heavily being debated and argued upon

    • @dereklewis4321
      @dereklewis4321 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      with constant updates it's impossible to say who is where on the tier list

  • @sethfreeman8095
    @sethfreeman8095 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool to see someone giving Zero trouble. Maybe Meta Knight is a good counter for Shiek? I think if Zero went Diddy he would have had the advantage.

  • @rinoiya
    @rinoiya 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    who would have thought that roy and lucina would make it to grand finals of a tournament...yay

  • @tikobro-coc5417
    @tikobro-coc5417 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    MY MAN ZERO PUT ON THE TSM JACKET DAMN SON!

  • @masterofdoom5000
    @masterofdoom5000 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did I not see more fastfalled neutral airs from MK to gimp? I use them quite a bit against characters like sheik to just push them into a bad place or even knock them under the stage if you space it right.

    • @EvryDamnDay
      @EvryDamnDay 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      masterofdoom5000 Because Ally isnt a god like you

  • @Nain9
    @Nain9 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:28 AHAHAHA I DIED WITH THE COMMENTARY XD

  • @CountChrisdo
    @CountChrisdo 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these commentators lol they're having fun

  • @sparky6757
    @sparky6757 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    PICHU IS THE REAL MVP.
    And also, consider this:
    1: Pichu is the 20th most wanted character in Japan, with it once being 5th most wanted.
    2:Ryu was 23rd most wanted, but he made it just fine.
    3:PICHU CONFIRMED. And everyone in top 19, except Roy, because for whatever reason he was on that list, even though nobody voted for him since may 8th(?). SSB4 is going to have 71 characters CONFIRMED.
    But really, Pichu has a small chance. It could happen. My main could return. And I'm ranting about it on a grand finals comment section.

    • @sparky6757
      @sparky6757 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pichu is love. Pichu is life.

    • @dereklewis4321
      @dereklewis4321 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      why would we want a shitty clone?

    • @sparky6757
      @sparky6757 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Derek Lewis 1V1 me m80 I have the best Pichu skills out of everyone I know, which means nothing because I am the only Pichu player within around 100 miles of where I live because I'm in the middle of nowhere. To answer your question, I would call Pichu a semiclone, for one thing. Also, there is such a thing as a Pichu main. There's also the fact that the tier only effects who plays them online, and to a lesser extent at tournaments. I see way more Spamus/Nayru's spam/Palutena than I should. Melee tournaments had plenty of Pichu when someone thought they were good enough to use a bottom tier. Let's not forget that low tier characters make a better salt shaker. Everyone I have ever played against in Melee has quit after a few matches of losing to an inferior semiclone of an already mid tier at best character. There's also the fact that nobody will accuse you of being so bad that you have to use top tiers if you never use them.
      All that is why I want Pichu back.

    • @dereklewis4321
      @dereklewis4321 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Semi clone vs clone. It's all the same. Pichus move set was inspired by Picachu. He was a pointless add and will not be seeing a return. I'd be highly dissapointed if they gave him a roster spot over someone who actually will bring something new to the game. Normal

    • @sparky6757
      @sparky6757 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fun fact: we all are alive. We all have opinions. We all have characters we want back. I don't expect Pichu to return, but if he does it will be the best day of my life other than the day I unlocked Pichu in Melee.

  • @DigiEggz
    @DigiEggz 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any more Cool Spot fans other than the commentator and myself? I also agree about 7up.

  • @TheDragDavid
    @TheDragDavid 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These commentators...

  • @RockLobsta29
    @RockLobsta29 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:34 wasn't a read. He saw the roll

  • @BthIX
    @BthIX 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's really no reason to pick Lucina over Marth if you want to win, but I guess Ally knew he couldn't win anyway.

    • @BthIX
      @BthIX 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robin Nayru still got rekt.
      That's not what the tier lists say.

  • @RSSpeacemaker
    @RSSpeacemaker 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why no Captain Falcon Zero? O. O

  • @BlueFlame_MK
    @BlueFlame_MK 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    ROY'S OUR BOY!

  • @1001011011010
    @1001011011010 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are you allowed to play high tiers? It's literally called Low Tier City. It defeats the purpose.

  • @midocrimsonfate
    @midocrimsonfate 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yesterday Ally said Tomorrow

  • @skylarkisdeadxiaogangss
    @skylarkisdeadxiaogangss 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I had a sliver of hope for Ally after the first stock.
    Them I remembered who he's facing.

  • @MaximeSierro
    @MaximeSierro 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my god the legendary worse commentators of the scene. AGAIN

  • @RecordToDeathToBoredom
    @RecordToDeathToBoredom 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh... I saw AlphaRad in the audience... 10:49

  • @aragorn100000
    @aragorn100000 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    ''ally forgot what game it was'' haha tornado was so OP in brawl :P

  • @erobinson7410
    @erobinson7410 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a ultimate/melee player ngl smash 4 is quite boring but still just insanely patient neutral. Definitely understand why smash 4 player have such good fundamentals now

  • @21GMix
    @21GMix 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:33 And I was just watching Zero's video about reads.

    • @yahyahaider1086
      @yahyahaider1086 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's up buddy? Didn't expect to see you here.

    • @21GMix
      @21GMix 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yahya Haider ....Me either.

  • @PugShotGames
    @PugShotGames 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These commentators suck. Honestly, they killed the hype of this match 99% of the time.

  • @JeffsCoolZone
    @JeffsCoolZone 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yesteday Ally said tomorrow. lmao.

  • @frankzilla447
    @frankzilla447 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know you're the shit when you have to stop playing you're sure to win with character to keep the match interesting.

  • @accel103
    @accel103 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    That one commentator had an evil ass laugh

  • @kuzunohaxiv7912
    @kuzunohaxiv7912 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I respect ally so much for using lucina in the finals :]

  • @MetalxSoldier
    @MetalxSoldier 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn second loss and ally pretty much accepts defeat. Wouldn't blame him I mean win 3 in a row then bracket reset and win 3 more times.

  • @MacedaII
    @MacedaII 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    the hype...

  • @Ozi_i
    @Ozi_i 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    圧倒的強さ!ただそれだけ

  • @ace_fuego
    @ace_fuego 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ally you had such a good mario!!! WHY!? kappa

  • @tvsoup4405
    @tvsoup4405 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    whuuuuuuuuuuuttttt lucina? META KNIGHT? whuuuuut

  • @joshuahndrxx
    @joshuahndrxx 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this 1.10?

    • @Booboo9721
      @Booboo9721 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      NextPain MCNINTENDO Yes it is

    • @Thedarktwilighwind
      @Thedarktwilighwind 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It actually wasn't (that question was answered by JV earlier on during the stream) because 1.1.0 came out the Friday of LTC3, so it'd be unfair for the players to play on 1.9.0 for weeks in practice and then immediately adjust during the tournament, or for the traveling people like Ally, who probably hadn't been able to play Smash since they left for LTC, putting them on a complete disadvantage.

  • @xUmbranx
    @xUmbranx 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    When zero wins he looks like a big newborn baby

  • @kimr3879
    @kimr3879 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 5:02. Ally has a cute smile. ;)

  • @Mandby
    @Mandby 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why was Zero's Roy so good lol

  • @Cbairdman
    @Cbairdman 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    30k ppl and no comments? dafuq is wrong with people.

  • @kaiwalsh6976
    @kaiwalsh6976 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is pitch black

  • @jmasterflex9463
    @jmasterflex9463 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zero is the goat

  • @MrZoora23
    @MrZoora23 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Koolyo

  • @reivaxtombsmash8138
    @reivaxtombsmash8138 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    fe

  • @michaeldinh2449
    @michaeldinh2449 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lucina>Marth

  • @YourGodIsDead
    @YourGodIsDead 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stopped watching after Ally fucked up his lead in the first match. In fact that is my policy going forward when it comes to watching ZeRo. If ZeRo is about to lose then pulls a comeback in the first match I'm going to stop watching the rest of the set.

  • @tvsoup4405
    @tvsoup4405 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    i had to pause the video...... 7 UP IS WAY BETTER THAN SPRITE !

  • @rolesynvega2872
    @rolesynvega2872 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thas rasist

  • @qpMONKEYMIKEqp
    @qpMONKEYMIKEqp 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay if they want to make smash 4 look more hype try and get some halfway decent commentators. i know they know their stuff but they make smash 4 look even more boring.

    • @asioca1992
      @asioca1992 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Michael Rauch (MonkeyMike) What's there to comment on that hasn't already been done?
      Sm4sh is a boring game and the commentators are telling it like it is rather than pretending the game is more exciting than it actually is.

    • @qpMONKEYMIKEqp
      @qpMONKEYMIKEqp 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +asioca1992 hahaha very true man :)

  • @theelephant2117
    @theelephant2117 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate all these people picking up MK, find your own character stop with the bandwagon.

    • @saberfromfate
      @saberfromfate 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been playing meta knight for a while, and everyone thinks I'm part of the bandwagon and they just lecture me lol

    • @emantv6343
      @emantv6343 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Elephant What's wrong picking up an inspiring character as a secondary. I'm picking up MK as well but I already have 3 mains and 2 secondary.

    • @TheTheThe_
      @TheTheThe_ 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      What..

  • @phantom370
    @phantom370 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yawn

  • @saiksaikatai594
    @saiksaikatai594 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    so so so boring!