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Destiny has an open relationship with his wife, I can't respect anyone who lets their wife get screwed by other men. N let's be honest, destiny ain't getting nothing out of it, it's his wife that does
@@Shellybelly778 I actually just found out about that but I never liked sneako to begin with. Maybe the jealousy is what got him redpilled but at least he's snapped out of it now
@@jubilantsleep It's actually the other way around. When a lot of you guys here are confronted with "red pill" talking points, you either respond with vitriol or horrible "strawman" arguments.
Destiny getting banned from Twitch was ironically the best thing that could happen to him. The content has been incredible, and his channel has much more potential for growth.
@@illusion6559 Same actually. I had watched a debate or two with him but found him annoying probably cause a girl I knew was annoying about how much she liked him. Saw he got banned for no real reason and tried watching him again and its enjoyable.
His view on women is far too degrading. I don't even know if you can have him around female friends, family, or kids with the crazy stuff he says. He got uninvited from his own families Christmas, so he obviously can't put a lid on it.
@@goddessrick8734 His views on women aren’t really that “crazy,” all he says is he couldn’t see himself with one but if he keeps that open with the women he is with then it’s completely fine, he was uninvited from his family due to his political views now views on women, but hey you can keep protecting women from non existent threats, have a good day
Not gna lie. I love the fact that Snaeko is willing to keep engaging with Destiny. Shows me that he's at the very least willing to engage with opposing opinions.
It’s only because this brings him attention. I feel like sneako is a narcissist that gets off by people constantly talking about HIM. It’s always about HIM
For as much as I disagree with his most recent takes, he seems to know that he doesn’t have all the answers and destiny is able to argue and debunk what he says without humiliating him.
I think that watching people on the internet yell at each other or maje random posts in twitter about each other makes us feel that this normal conversations or relationships between people thay disagree are not possible
@@ironmaiden93ofangmar yeah but in normal situation if one human with one human that disagree and agree in same topic debate and talking about it, it's easily to having angry and can't control mood moment.
A girl who thinks you're a 'pussy' because you cry if one of your parents dies is exactly the kind of girl you want to stay away from, and it's exact kind of girl Sneako's mentality attracts. A high value woman will recognize if you have strength in your actions and also respect you in moments of vulnerability, like every human being has.
@@killa-ma-jig7281 so you will cage up ur feelings and never show ur deeper self truthfully just bc of ur shitty sister? I’m sorry u went through that :( but not all women are ur sister. And not all men are hitler. I have a little brother and I care for him like I’m his mom, he cries and vents whenever he’s sad to me, overwhelmed, stressed or even angry at someone. I have a healthy relationship with him and will always support him. Ur sister isn’t the one for u, but you will find other people that will cherish you. Just learn from ur sister to never be like her and be a better person to live a happy life
@@dyhaeris I will not ever cry or be vulnerable in front of women because they will mistake it as being weak. If I want to cry or be vulnerable, I have mentors and bros to talk with. I don't see why I'd risk looking weak in front of my girl, even if I'm actually being vulnerable. Why is it so important that I be vulnerable in front of women anyway?
I Respect destiny’s patience. I don’t think I’ve ever listened to a more completely out of touch, cringe, arrogant, insufferable, immature person in my life.
He’s gonna look back at this time years down the road and be so embarrassed. He’s so loudly wrong about almost everything and smug as fuck. I’ve watched his stuff for years and this turn is so weird it seems like a troll or social experiment
I don’t agree with everything sneako says. But man, You must have not met a lot of people. There’s a reason for his following. A lot of people have the same sentiments as Sneako, putting people in box as immature and insufferable removes any consideration for dialogue or any beneficial discussion
@@AS-oo4gv nah sneakos contrarian/edgy on purpose perhaps bc he gets attention. He’s 99% immature, insufferable and also annoying. Not much to be learned from him lol and this coming from a person who used to like his content
@@sixwaveholddown To you’re first comment, I agree. I do think it’s something he’s going to regret. It was hard to listen to, but it’s important to here him talk in this capacity to hear where his mindset is at rather than a fresh&fit tik tok clip. He should be invited to speak with more people who have more nuanced takes so he can learn. Simply saying he’s some arrogant dude, u gotta remember he’s still like 23. He’s kind of a young guy. Just doesn’t make sense to antagonize him but call out his ideas and statements.
@@AS-oo4gv okay I can appreciate that take truly. You’re probably right. He is young; It’s just weird seeing him “grow down” if that makes sense. Before he seemed curious kinda wise and intellectually experimental. Guess I have to take him as he is now but if I was first introduced to this version of sneako I wouldn’t have given his content the time of day. I hear you though
@@ericstein8019 the biggest barrier to Sneako getting his mind changed isn’t going to be his stubbornness, it’s going to be the money. If he gets on stream tomorrow and goes “you know what maybe all women aren’t retarded and maybe some do want to settle down with one man and take care of the home” he’s going to lose all his subscriber growth
@@ericstein8019 Its possible, as destiny said, sneako is young and he seems to be a genuinely smart person thats just a little misguided. I do think he will change, its just going to take a few years probably.
@@authenticambience4765 well who would you consider someone with critical thinking in the online political community ? Vaush , Hassan , Lauren ? I thought so
Every time Sneako tries to explain why he doesn't want to be a certain way (like growing up/having fulfilling relationships, etc), he goes "because I don't wanna be like uhharrrggh warhhh uhh," and that's his explanation. Signs of fully formed thoughts, right there.
pro-tip: don't take life and relationship advice from a person with barely any life and relationship experience. i will say the kid seems actually attentive and willing to listen which i respect
The part about sneako not being able to cry around his partner even if he had a parent die was truly sad to listen to. I can’t imagine being with someone who you aren’t comfortable showing even a hint of emotional vulnerability around
Even Aba & Preach advise against it. A lot of partners use vulnerability to exploit it at the first chance, they get made that you aren't vulnerable around them because they feel uncomfortable that they can't use said vulnerability.
But he also do not understand PHD will not just give intelligence. You get PHD, which gives you more options, and then you have more opportunities to grow, learn even more, work, etc. So around 30, you are smart but not when you are 23!
Wow, Steven's kind of having a glow up. This is has been a really constructive journey as of late. He's been showing an astounding amount of patience when listening to the Red pill community. Plus he's giving really helpful advice to for these young guys to overcome their negative attraction bias against women. It feels a lot more constructive than just laughing them off and allowing them to fester in insular communities
Destiny talked about his shift towards focusing on empathy in debates, and it’s helped him engage in a constructive way imo. Destiny talking about growing up reminds me of where he started in sc2 days.
As a woman, it feels so nice when my boyfriend cries with me because he got shit going on. I actually think it makes him seem strong (especially with the societal expectations that man shouldn't cry, and as sneako says, "seen as weak') and it makes me feel trusted and loved that he feels he can be vulnerable with me.
@@geekmanful Here's the facts; you are terrified to cry in front of women because you think they will view you as less masculine, you base all of your sense of masculinity and self-worth on external validation from women, and the fact that you need validation from others to determine your self-worth makes you weak. Being terrified of showing vulnerability is a weakness
They're SO close to understanding each other, if only Sneako could accept that it's okay not to be sigma omega ultra grinder all the time everything else would fall into place.
Sneako doesn’t seem to realize that we still need people to build houses, fix your plumbing, collect your garbage and grow your food. If those people can’t do well than your society is fu****
He's honestly becoming what he hates as well. He sees the elites who discourage us from "progress" as evils who force us into compliance. The same elites who put money over morality. And now he's striving to be a part of that group who looks down on the lesser class and views us as less than human. He doesn't see the danger in that mindset, because once you start to dehumanise people, you'll be more willing to join the supremacist elites who exploit people. I hope he wakes up
But are those people respected by the society? No, so why should you do something that is low paying and you get no respect for it why degrade yourself so much?
@@jorgemiller325 construction and plumbing you can make a decent living off of. It goes to show yall are losing your minds watching these clown ass losers who make their money selling you on pyramid schemes. Plumbing has been known to get you paid, plenty of trades in general will get you paid. Its hard work but its work thats worth it.
@@jorgemiller325 because they are men not insecure boys who care what people think about them, to put simply there are jobs that no one wants to do but need to be done. No one wants to be a a garbage man no one want to jump in sewers and fix the pipes it takes a strong confident person to do so, which is why you find the strongest individuals in this professions and the most back stabbing horrible people in easy professions that everyone wants to do
Destiny sounds so smart. And he’s just a normal human being😂 I love how he doesn’t even have to think to correct sneako haha “why not 6 girls?. That’s programming! Only one! “ “Why don’t u have 70 friends?” “I don’t have the time to build the relationship with 70 friends” Lmao he’s so close to being able to think.
@@andreja9119maybe you can enlighten me. Why isn’t it a good analogy? Seems pretty straight forward. Don’t have enough time to build the relationship like that with multiple ppl.
@@johnlee2943 Destiny wasn't talking about having 6 bang buddies. He was talking about having 6 life partners. He was saying that the kind of deep relationship that most of us want in life is the sort of thing that is hard to develop with more than one person.
I like how he basically admitted to growing up relatively wealthy and still wants to shit on working class people for not trying hard enough. That’s was really cool and wise.
I fucking knew he would be I’m not saying it’s a shit thing but honestly How many of these public figures grew up with a big ass house Not in an apartment
I hate how destiny didn't really push back on that and instead just chose to speak from his perspective. It could be easily flipped on him so hard. The fact is when you give broad advice you have to give advice that actually works for most people. Telling people to make money through crypto is as worthless as a if Hasan had said "just get your uncle to give you a job! easy!".
Well common. He was relativly whealthy but He didnt had an easy Start when it comes to his TH-cam career. Still He made it. Most people whould have had better conditions when it comes to their TH-cam careers. Man his parents didnt speak to him (if thats true)
Sneako is so depressingly poisoned by the manosphere. As a lady, a guy who doesn't process his emotions when something terrible happens to him is a *red flag.* Like, that's how serial killers react, and women generally try not to date serial killers. The fact he views our half the population as one shallow monolith speaks to how he thinks of all women as sexy bundles of algorithms, not as people. It's a very Manosphere way to view us, and I legit hope he'll grow out of it.
Just like you said you're a woman and you will never understand or comprehend the philosophy of the manosphere.This so called''poisoning'' are just super bitter truths that not anyone has the guts to accept.Truth is the truth and it is not pretty.
That's a false statement, if that was true serial killers like Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy etc wouldn't have so many fangirls writing them letters. Jeremy Meeks a career criminal who went viral because of his mug shot and women jumping over him, donating him money just because he is attractive. The point is looks matter the most for a women personality and all that other 💩 are rules made by women for average looking dudes.
I really feel bad for Sneako. Has all the ambition that most of us lack but absolutely ZERO wisdom or self reflection. By the time he realizes what he needs in life he'll have lost it all.
yeah 0 wisdom and self reflection..Not like his entire main channel was content based on those things.Just cause he doesn't get to the same conclusion as you it doesn't mean he lacks any of those things u are saying.
@@johnlongschlong3461 lol agreed, i held most his views until like 23 and the mfs 23 years old lol. by 25-27 he will be different. destiny gonna give the mf alot to think about and reflect on.
Man this was a good debate. I feel sorry for sneako, he is seriously deluded. He isn't stupid or anything but man he has been scarred in his life and can't overcome it and is just bitter.
It just seems like Sneako has no one around him who actually challenges him. Some of his opinions are so surface level and you can tell he has never actually thought about them in depth.
31:40 I think sneako’s response is very telling. Just because someone doesn’t want to be a leader doesn’t mean they want to fall completely in line. I’ve got a close friend with the same mindset. Seems like really young and ambitious people project their goals onto everyone around them rather than accept that other people might have different notions of fulfillment. Its why its so funny to hear him talk about “programming” in the west when he’s tripping all over himself to achieve a purely western idea of success.
You can tell the difference from ppl through their mindsets. Sneakos get money mindset is clearly working cuz its working in real time. I’ve never seen ppl who hate on that mindset ever become wealthy. I have seen ppl who think like this get their bag tho.
because sneako is at the age where he thinks any sign of weakness/capitulation/diplomacy/compromise is a bad thing and turns you into a female dog which is a 100% programmed line of thinking. Here's hoping to him finally getting his balls to drop at some point in the next 10 years...
Sneako claims he had a perfect family so idk what you mean by this. Sneako had perfect parents so there’s nothing wrong with him by his means he doesnt need a father son relationship from destiny because he has a great fathe sneako is just a shitty guy who came from a good family
@@autumn576 Touch grass and respect women, I can already see the writhing soul of you trying to defend him. He is not a person to be inspired by and until you can see that, I cannot help nor continue giving you a shovel to dig yourself even deeper.
For real. Imagine someone telling you "you need to find a deeper, meaningful relationship" and thinking "lol I'm 23 and I've been in relationships with girls all over the world." No, you've had sex with girls all over the world. Dude has literally no clue at all what a real relationship even looks like. Addicted to dopamine.
Same lmao, to be so fkn sure of life and then your remember slowly realising you have no idea wtf you’re talking about, and the working on rebuilding your worldview. And that’s on growth - I’m sure sneako will come to this realisation like most of us do - hopefully lol
I also remembered when I thought Iwas the smartest person in the room. I'm no longer foolishly thinking I can be an engineer and I'm now settling for that simple accountant lifestyle.
@@theprofesionalist7927 Thats good! People need more of that mindset. Peoples brains have limitations and need to understand what they arent capable of.
Why? Is someone else's perspective that bad to you that you couldn't tolerate it? At the end of the day there are people that are going to apeal to that lifestyle and people that won't. I do t think either of them are wrong it's just different viewpoints
@@Jay-og4yb Someone that talks over you and raises their voice is not trying to have a calm and respectful debate. They are using volume to get their point across and drown you out. It's not my job to teach someone else how to act respectfully during a debate, so I would walk away from that one. More than happy to hear about other viewpoints stop jumping to conclusions.
@@louisenewson-smith9519 if you are getting talked over and the other guy is getting emotional, you're winning the debate. That's a good thing. You walking away is a forfeiture.
@@Jay-og4yb He was like that throughout the whole video. It doesnt mean you're winning, just means the other person is disrespectful as hell. I've had debates in which I've come out on top and the higher person didnt feel the need to try and talk over me or anything.
this really made me realize that sneako must not have suffered through shit. yes everyone “can” make it to a higher status but everyone won’t and it’s not bc they’re bots. it’s bc they have REAL things that stand in their way (broken homes, no home, no car, horrible neighborhoods, unexpected family losses/changes, etc). the way he so passively speaks about how he would get over his mother passing is very telling…he hasn’t felt a real pain like that ever.
I dont think he has enough experience in life to be to a point where he can help others with theirs. I used to be just like him, used to say shit like people who commit suicide are just weak willed, stuff like that, and then one day someone you're close to, someone you know is as strong or stronger than you kills themselves and your entire perception of what you know shifts. I'm honestly happy for him that he has that drive, that he has that willpower, that hes succeeding and that hes proud of himself, but he hasn't lived yet. Like you said, he hasn't gone through it, he doesn't understand fulfillement at its basic principle, and therefor he doesn't understand that you can be fulfilled and happy with a lot less.
@@strawhatJ theres like 70k dollars of wiggle room in between those 2 salaries that make up the majority of jobs and that allow you to live a perfectly comfortable and normal life. Id rather be comfortable and slightly less wealth than have millions of dollars with the bullshit that comes with it.
i know people that had struggles that you couldnt imagine and now make 6 figures a year so yh "REAL" things happening isn't an excuse not to aspire to be of higher status you can really come out of every situation if youre smart enough and have the work ethic
@@dartmansam10 You realize you can become a millionaire without being a scammer influencer right? Also you are not living comfortably on 30k a year in america bro, get real.
I wish Destiny would ask him something like "if 100% of the people who listened to you put in the same amount of effort and had the same amount of skill, would 100% of them succeed"?
@@ChairWoodenFloor1 Problem is everyone being "rich" devalues some work and over values other. Think about the inherent values of different work. Doctor vs Guy who flips patties. For both to be rich, someone's gotta get devalued/overvalued.
@@WanderTheNomad He already did. he said only 1% of the people would make money off of crypto, and Sneako's response was "HAHA LOSERS!!1 xD" because he's so unintelligent. A better question would have been "Well why don't you just tell them to try the lottery to be rich? Everyone CAN win the lottery right?"
Sneakos view on a loving relationship is beyond insane. Destiny is so right about building a life with your significant other. My wife and I have been together since October 2016 and been married since October 2020. The amount of things we have been through moving from different cities, financial ruts and highs, new careers. All of this stuff was possible because we both gave 100% in trying to make things better and I wouldn't take back any of it. It made us better people and better partners. I would have been a completely different person without her and im sure she would be too without me.
Red-Pillers only view women as sexual outlets, housewives, mothers, and cooks. They do not view women as fellow human beings that can be genuinely loved and interacted with on an emotional level, and therein lies the problem.
Although Sneako needs to cut down on some of his toxic black and white views. Destiny is literally a man who has been divorced and is now allowing his girl to fuck other men. The amount of ‘blue-pilled’ men who are in dead marriages or have been divorced is an insane amount too. Red-pill views are a bit too extreme at times and tries to set each sex as all being the same, but generally it has a lot of good ideals and truths that men should strive to learn. They just need to learn to not completely lose their previous selves before they were exposed to ‘red pill’ ideology.
Destiny is indeed right about building a relationship as you say. But I think that him and his wife sharing intimate partners isn’t the best thing for partners in the long term. So I disagree with him in that aspect. I disagree with pretty much everything Sneako says about relationships but can appreciate the surface level messages of ambition
Sneako is 100% coping about Tate. He's not happy, and has literally said that happiness makes you weak. That a "Top G" should WANT to be unhappy all the time, because it makes them stronger and they will want to continually improve themselves... Since they are never happy. Tate's philosophy is that a man can only be successful in the pursuit of happiness. Once he is actually happy, he has failed. It's the Bane philosophy of "Peace has cost you your strength. Victory has defeated you".
No he literally has said that he's always happy. With the exception of something truly horrible happening like a death in the family, hes said outright that happiness and depression are just states of mind and he doesn't allow himself to be "depressed" or "anxious". He drives his own state and he's happy or really happy all of the time. you're precisely wrong.
Eh.. the only thing I've heared him say related to that was that he doesn't obsess over the idea of "always being happy" and that as long as he's not facing any serious issues he wakes up with the idea that "today is a good day and I'm happy". I think that the idea that meaning and fulfillment is found in struggle and suffering is so much more liberating than constantly analyzing your mood for down-turns and obsessing over the idea of being happy, it's a self-defeating timesink. Also 100% agree with the guy that all this psychoanalyzing is cringe as fk, keep that neurotic bad habit to yourselves.
@@musicplayah If "psychoanalyzing people is cringe as fk", then why does Tate do it? He literally couldn't even understand what xQc was saying when he said a guy shouldn't run outside in his boxers with a baseball bat to "protect his woman" at the slightest sound. He was trying so hard to psychoanalyze xQc, that he couldn't get past his French Canadian-ness to get the point. xQc wasn't trying to say that a guy should just cower in the closet if someone breaks in. He was saying that a man should make smart, tactical decisions, with the highest chance of survival for everyone. Which is the absolutely correct thing to do. If a man "hears a noise", they shouldn't just immediately run into the living room blind screaming "WHO'S THERE?!?!" like an idiot... That's how they get shot in the back of the head from some dude in the corner they didn't even see, and end up getting their whole family murdered. If they "hear something", the proper response should be to get a weapon and proceed very cautiously to investigate. If there is a home invasion, immediately retreat, and get everyone in the house to a single room with a lock (and preferably an alternate exit like a window) as quickly as possible. Lock/barricade the door, and call 911. If the home invaders try to breach the door, then you hold that door like you're Hodor in GoT while everyone else tries to escape. Hodor was happy most of the time in GoT, because he understood his singular purpose in life. To hold that door. He lived his entire life, to hold a door, and if he didn't hold that door... Humanity goes extinct. If you think meaning and fulfillment are found in struggle and suffering, then go play with some toxic chemicals. Give yourself cancer, then tell me about how great it made your life. Lance Armstrong had to struggle, how'd that turn out for him? You're correct that Tate doesn't obsess over being happy, he obsesses over being sad. This is directly from his TH-cam community page... You MUST put in the effort to get the life you want. Apparently the life Tate wants, is one of sadness. "Give it to me. All of it. I manifest it into POWER.". "Embrace sadness... You will leave this world alone. Or leave your loved ones alone. Life is sadness. There is no way out. Do you smile as you feel pain? Or try and hide it. Removing the sting from your sharpest edge. An act of COWARDICE. I will never. Ever. Take an anti-depressant or some other BS mind-altering substance in an attempt to hide from the certainties of a painful life. Sadness is universal. A constant. It is here to stay. I embrace it. Give it to me. All of it. I manifest it into POWER. My biggest victories in life were when I was sad. Miserable. World titles. Millions of dollars. I never vastly improved my life when I was happy. A haze of hedonistic non-sense. Cash wasted. Big butts on moonless nights. But very little ACHIEVEMENT. You MUST put in the effort to get the life you want."
Sneako needs to understand that these so called "bots" are real people doing the jobs that he thinks he's too good for. He should be thanking these bots for doing the shit jobs because at the end of the day, someone has to do them and there's nothing wrong with that.
this red pilled shit only exists because of the ever increasing narcissism thats been happening, not only that but it satisfies the greedy human nature we tend to have
Man the level of cringe when they got to the section about crying. This is a perfect example of the perspective of a boy vs a grown man. Props to Destiny for keeping the conversation on track.
They’re not really “polar opposites” at all though. They’re a a major ven diagram overlay of agreement, they just are at different places in there understanding of these topics.
@@jrgzz They completely disagree on every single topic what are you talking about? Sneako is dead wrong on every little thing, he's the dumbest person who has been on this stream in a few years I think
@@adio8824 Dude if for you manhood is about being rich and f-ing a lot of women you have never progressed beyond 12 years old. Might as well go with Conan the Barbarian "Big strong, drinks beer from the skulls of his enemies and has sex with rescued princesses."
@@adio8824 ok but can you explain how letting your woman sleep with other men is any form of manhood? Cause that’s what destiny does fyi…and we young men are supposed to be taking his advice?
Sneako needed an older brother who can debate politics and society with him. I'm so glad that Destiny is so patient to fulfill that role. I actually can see Destiny and Sneako becoming a cool duo if Sneako matures a bit and things go well. Not saying they'll agree on everything, but they could possibly be friends.
The whole patience thing is kinda patronising. Destiny isn't the wise wizard of knowledge, and tbh he is pretty clueless when it comes to the true operations of modern day society. He's very intelligent, but hasn't the insight to see the world for what it really is. Society is an human farm designed to keep us free-range slaves to perpetual national debt. I've known a lot of 'stupid' people who are very aware of this world, and a lot of 'smart' people who are absolutely ignorant and indoctrinated.
@@dong2035 I don't think there's an easy role that Aba falls in for Sneako, but the closest I can think of is an 'uncle'. I dunno though, since that doesn't always happen in every video between Aba and Sneako.
I feel like the use of the word "bot" at everyone just living a normal life sort of encapsulates the type of human Sneako is. Many people are fulfilled in their lives just being happy where they are. They find joy and comfort in their families and they don't find their weird desperate clawing for validation that Sneako seems to have.
this somehow reminds me of the philosophy of mob psycho, that there's nothing wrong with being ordinary and you're not unique and special, it takes a lot of humility to accept that you're just like everybody else
@Sp0iledTransgirl he’s just a 23 year old kid, who just copy everything he seen on the internet about the redpill and now thinks he knows it all and that everyone is a “normie” But him
Yeah he talks about how western society has ruined many things but that Anglo-western mindset is precisely what he is perpetuating. Vast majority of human civilization were content with local life before colonization
They are fulfilled because they are ignorantly in bliss. Which is exactly why society crumbles against these docile apathetic men who choose to do absolutely nothing You can’t care about your family and be a passive man. You are just a male at that point. Every man in charge of a family should take a active lead
As a long time fan of Sneako, his perspective and the way he was seeing the world was interesting to me, but he's been more toxic and materialistic over time, I hope Destiny can get through to him and he actually self improves
the irony of being so afraid of coming across as "not confident" because you cry in front of your partner due to a traumatic event.. it just wreaks of insecurity
Sneako has never failed in life. The fact that he had a home and 2 parents and saying he got it on his own is insane to me. You were making TH-cam videos by 14. I was homeless trying to get my next meal at 13. You cannot tell me you are where you are because aren’t more privileged.
To be fair, a lot of people were making videos at 14 and never made success. He didn't make it on his own, but it wasn't just because he's privileged. You're oversimplifying.
I grew up with my parents as well I still say I have it on my own. How? Because everything in life is a choice. My parents only showed me the way but I didnt have to take it. So all credit does go to me. It's one thing to inform somebody and teach but it's another to take the action.
@@jman8802 true but you have to give your parents credit as well. Because they didn’t have to teach you anything or take care of you either. Because everything is a choice like you say
@@jman8802 I do agree with you to a point though don’t think I don’t: because you are right, some people just choose to fuck up. They can have good loving parents with money and still decide to go out and join a gang and sell in do drugs because they think it’s cool and no other reason
@@stillnotchill2560 yes I am oversimplifying a bit but to say he got it on his own is wrong. Success has a lot to do with luck and people don’t want to admit that. Even people like pewdiepie will tell you, the most successful TH-camr of all will say a lot of it has to do with luck.
Being in a great marriage is an experience like no other, and it's difficult to understand/explain to someone who has never had one. It also flies in the face of every stereotype of what a woman thinks a "manly man" is. I can tell Sneako is too independent to truly connect with a woman he's dating. It's not for everyone
Guys like sneako never make it past a year in relationships. Imagine laying on your death bed and reminiscing on memories with numerous different girls vs all of it with 1 girl.
@@user-br3fk8dx8o This is the relationship equivalent of “better not go outside because you can die.” There are - literally - millions of successful marriages. In fact, there are more successful marriages than unsuccessful marriages, and that ratio has been steadily increasing since the 50s.
Sneako: I did not have any mental support, I just had both parents together in a nice house. 😂 That's the perfect description of mental support! Knowing you are not going to starve because you live in your parents house and you do not need to work at 16 while studying at the same time to provide for the family so all your little brothers have food on the table. Welcome to your privilege, just accept it and be grateful for it.
He's one of those people who blame their amazing parents or parents for actually raising them right and taking care of them properly by suggesting they were being smothered or held back from living life so they live the life they lived because their parents forced them to in some form of defiance because their parents loved them too much. I've talked to someone like that
You must never have experienced an emotionally unavailable and neglectful parent. Ignorant comment. I’m actually shocked to hear his father was in the home because it’s very clearly obvious this boy has not had any guidance. He was probably in his bedroom alone for 18 years virtually raising himself.
Sneako's age, lack of wisdom/perspective is so apparent here. He is so certain he has the world figured out. Confidence like this with a big platform combined with such misguided positions is toxic and possibly dangerous to anyone younger and more impressionable than him. I'm so impressed with destiny and his ability to be some kind of male role model in this conversation to him. Good shit!
@@tranformersaddiction He’s in an open relationship. he sleeps with other women and she sleeps with other men. everyone is different and it’s not like he actively promotes the lifestyle since only particular people can actually live it. being in an open relationship doesn’t take away from the great advice he gives to men.
@@rokaaay4 Open relationship - another word for the age old phrase “I don’t love you or find you attractive anymore but I still want the financial benefits of being with you.” This does take away from the advice he’s giving to men because he is where is is today because of these choices he made. There are certain things that I agree with but he can’t make the argument that ‘toxic masculinity will make you unhappy in the end’ if in the end his girl is getting piped down by multiple men - that’s just a dude that most young men don’t want to be.
He really doesn't seem like a bad guy. Just a misguided kid who think he has the world figured out. Hopefully with time he does some self reflection and changes his views on life. Destiny could be a positive influence in his life that challenges his world views.
@@Darkpumpkin21 could be true. He can't put himself in the shoes of a woman but he expects her to know what he's feeling. Don't know the guy personally so can't really say.
@@iamwooth1729 He can't put himself in the shoes of a woman He can't put himself in anyones shoes. But hey, it is well known that empathy is only beneficial trait in small societies, in big ones where you can dissapear in a crowd not having empathy is not punished.
@@Darkpumpkin21 1. he was not raised right. Mommy or Daddy issues. Neglect possibly. Insanely hard for him to grow as a man when hes getting rewarded for his behavior
ya know, this is surprisingly entertaining. A lot of people are giving Destiny props for his cool headed responses and questions but I don't see enough props going to sneako for willing to do something like this... in person, live, and even sitting shoulder to shoulder.
Why would someone props someone like Sneako, that is here to chase clout and has the most immature takes. The guy is 24 and thinks he knows the truth about life... Hes just another dumbass
I'm a 32 year old programmer, currently in a lead position in a high earning job. Something I've learned from being in this position is that I do not want to be a leader. You can still be a "high value man" without having the egotistical red pill mindset these manbabys are trying to sell you. These mindsets do not lead to happiness.
Don't ever consider yourself or anyone in a term of "value", it's such a creepy way to talk about people as if all their worth is in their income or sex appeal. It degrades others as humans to nothing but credit cards or flesh lights and I can't believe people unironically use this red pill terminology like "she's a 3 low value female who shouldn't be looking for a high value man and instead settle for some low value beta male." and shit like that. This only leads to self destruction as no one that watches these people are "high value" since they're all teens living with their parents being told that women are literal objects and if you don't have at least five medium value women than you're a brokey bot bitch.
Honestly I think this is great. Sneako being invited to Destiny’s place and debating in person. Regardless of what you believe being able to sit down and have a genuine conversation with someone with opposing views is what the internet needs right now. You can tell these guys are cool with each other. They’re having a great time.
@@saurabh4721 What are you talking about? He isn't saying he doesn't have internet he is saying not everyone has internet. Sneako is a dumbass because he thinks he is selfmade because he bought a computer and is completely ungrateful to his luck being born in a rich country with a strong economy (in my country a resident doctor would have to work 4 months to buy a 1000 euros laptop, assuming they love in the street and eat tree leaves aka 0 expenses), but also having a family who paid for him to be educated, fed, clothed etc...
@@saurabh4721 The point is Sneako doesn’t recognize how much of a privilege it is to not only have an internet connection, but also the equipment necessary to stream. And at 14 he definitely didn’t pay for the home or the modem, or the router, or the internet bills that enabled him to do what he did.
Damn I used to rock with Sneako hard. But watching this is sort of sad. It feels like he's fallen so far down this hole that by the time he realizes what he really wants in life or what's important life will have passed him by
IT is sad to see think these boys are different than others, while they are exactly like toxic modern people just with more money! No good woman wants him, so he just think all of us are like party girls
Dude his life and upbringing was mad good aside from maybe stuff he hasn’t mentioned but I never heard him speaking of hard times ever growing up or even now
Sneako actually came across as a human being in this discussion. I think you can tell that Destiny is actually having an impact on Sneako and he has some level of respect for Destiny. Destiny's impact on people is actually so impressive.
The answer to masculinity is somewhere in the middle between Andrew Tate and destiny. They are both drastically different and that's the point. Tate goes too far but destiny goes too soft in my opinion
@Destiny man, the most impressive thing from this debate is your patience. Like Sneako(no disrespect) is just like a teenager, yelling and not even trying to consider he might be wrong and you remain calm. This is just like watching a rebellious teenager talking to a 50 year old MAN. Respect for remaining calm and trying to explain to him the values of life.
24:30 I think this would make for a very interesting discussion at some point! I disagree but I'm not sure if we are talking about the same thing 3:55 I love it
@Arjun Ravichandran He follows Destiny for a while I saw his comment long time ago and also he was in audience in some live event (not sure if he genuinely went there to see Destiny or was just around on this event).
I guess he's talking about manufacturers/designers disappearing and just online resellers of cheap mass produces stuff out of China they put their label on.
Sneako's getting free therapy via Destiny and doesn't even realize it... 17:49 This is the poison that is red pill. Once you buy into this idea that there is this concept of "female nature", you ascribe all negative attributes of a handful of toxic women to ALL women, which means even if Sneako does grow out of this crap and finds and wants to settle down with a truly good woman, there is a chance he will never be able to truly trust her because in the back of his mind, no matter how amazing she is, he will be fearful that she will eventually expose herself as another toxic woman. Because that's "female nature" right? This is what happens to a LOT of men who get into red pill crap and it f*cks them up royally. They will never be able to truly be vulnerable around a woman, thus they will never have a truly fulfilling relationship, and eventually will just go full on black pill, trying to attain materialistic crap to fill the void of their empty, empty lives.
@@benhobbs8705 At this point I think he would just convince himself I am a blue pill cuck (which I am of course) and write off any points I or Destiny or anyone else makes.
I was thinking earlier that this whole movement will die but it'll take years, and I wonder later in life, when the Red Pill losers are all single, divorced, kids can't stand them, they'll see the folly. But by then the damage to a generation of young men will be done. I actually think they'll all be sad and fat and lonely in their late 30s early 40s. You can get away with a lot of shit in your 20s, and youth and energy gets you a long way. But it doesn't last long and the sad thing is they'll all realise too late.
I'm a pretty driven person, and I never understood why some people are so happy being 'normal'. But as I've grown, I've come to envy these people, because if they're happy then they've already reached their goals. At the end of the day, we do all this work because we believe there will be a time you can sit back, look at all you've done and be content and happy. If someone is truly happy making 50k a year, then objectively they've skipped the grind and gone straight to finish line. We need the Elon Musks of the world, but we also need the people who turn up everyday and build the cars and clean the factories.
the kind that can´t stop talking about how they´re the only ones being "real", while constantly and transparently shielding themselves from honest and open engagement by constantly putting on a mask of laughter and a 2cool4school attitude. I don´t think he´s intellectually not up to the task, he´s just scared. When Destiny brought up the strength and confidence it takes to be vulnerable, it seemed like he got this close to having his entire worldview shattered.
But you don’t understand how these two men can disagree with each other yet have normal conversations and clearly are helping each other thats should be respected. Respect to both
@@mellowmousegaming795 I have no respect for Sneako, he’s an insufferably obnoxious asshole. I wouldn’t be able to stand 1 minute around him. Just because he can talk to destiny doesn’t mean I need to respect him. He’s also not helping Destiny at all lol what
@@mellowmousegaming795 as long as you're a man and take the L don't matter if you're a shithead. I respect guys that can openly speak their stupid ideas. Because if it's stupid we'll get silenced by truth
@Christian AMA Sneako is literally the definition of someone who thinks they have everything figured out though. I agree that you shouldn’t assume that someone is 100% right or wrong about things-especially yourself-but I don’t think Sneako is taking that advice, and it isn’t unfair to say that it shows in the quality of his arguments.
@@ParzzyvalSneako is absolutely wrong and Destiny is absolutely right. This is not a matter of perspective/differing opinions, it’s just infantility vs being a functional adult… 😄
In all of my 50 years on Earth, I don't think I have seen a more entertaining, productive, and civilized debate from two people who are on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. This should be the blueprint for discord everywhere. Much respect to both of you!
Exactly. This is the type of honest, good-faith, authentic, unscripted conversation that you will NEVER see on any mainstream/corporate news/media outlet. We've all been brainwashed to think of "debate" as a fight, when really it can be calm and intelligent like these two gentlemen here. Good quality conversation and debate doesn't make any money for corporate press compared to fighting, so we never see anything but fighting. Simple as that.
I love that you guys are face-to-face I wish more debates were like this very personal and face-to-face without a public audience clapping and shit just one on one person to person. I love it!
I have plenty of IRL acquaintances that speak and think like Sneako. Destiny does a real good job at challenging some of the parts of the ,,hustler/alpha'' attitude - which in moderation is perfectly fine, but usually badly translates to many spheres of life, especially long-term romantic relationships.
I do appreciate that sneako is listening and even though hes hard headed, he seems to be open minded/thoughtful enough for a little at a time to slip through and change him for the better.
Your less likely to throw verbal jabs at someone face to face then you are over the internet. Destiny was more composed due to the direct fear of violence. Also they have been around each other online and in person for a few days/a week now consistently so they have found common ground and respect.
@@jowbabadook8530 im sure he knows exactly what hes doing. he had more success within the last month than the last 10 years of him dropping deep introspective content, hes putting on an entertainment front
@@mariomario1462 what? destiny is like 10 years older than sneako generally he will have more knowledge and more wisdom he can share, stop being weird.
@@mariomario1462 It's just a fact that he just can't have had the necessary experiences due to his age. Everyone has some regrets about who they were or what they did even just a year ago at that age, plenty look at their 3 year younger self and go "damn I was stupid back then", and it's fine. Social media has put an unhealthy pressure on young people to socially grow up to have it all figured out very quickly. Some grow faster, some slower, but it's often tied to experiences, and there's a limit to what kinds of experiences you can have had at a certain age
This is one of the most mature approaches to the get rich quick mentality subjects. Props up to Destiny for bringing proper arguments, keeping cool, and explaining things in a way that influences people, both Sneako and especially people watching in a positive manner. I really appreciate it!
Destiny almost had it, he was so close. Sneako admitted that: 1. He wants the majority of his audience to suceed. 2. His advise wont make the majority economically benefit. There's a really simple follow-up question here, that is: "Why wouldn't you want to give advice that would make the majority of your audience benefit?" Don't have exact timestamps but it all unfolds around 20:00 +
Now Sneako knows Destiny is willing to talk to him and reasonable, it hopefully will at the very least push him a little away from the more toxic people who are directing him down a dark, dark, path.
@@calebgao6931 Why not? Because there is more to life then being a sociopath and making money. Because money isn't end all - be all. Because money just by itself won't make you happy?
Sneeko definitely comes off as someone who has a. main character disorder. The guy practically thinks no matter what he’s correct even though he actually does come off unhinged and delusional. Good luck to 20 woman can’t wait to hear how it all falls apart at the end
@@cydra_infinity1423 or he’s sumbody he lives in his own head and allows his chat to make a lot of the decisions he does on stream it literally showed yesterday when Aba literally not even an hour ago said he doesn’t wanna be on a panel with nick again and he goes sneako tryna get nick on the call because his chats keeps egging him on and calls aba a coward for leaving after just explaining why he doesn’t wanna be on a call with him again. If you can see a self destructive pattern idk what to tell u
Damn this is so tough to watch. The fact that destiny is so chill and has massive patience, while definitely respectable, is somewhat the most infuriating part.
Its by far the best way to handle someone like Sneako, you could see that he was grasping for arguments and twisting destiny's words so he could somehow still make some sense. He seems like he doesn't want to change his opinion on anything.
@@looy._. If he pushes too much or tries to PROPERLY shut him down with logic it would shit on his ego and that's the exact kind of person that you wouldn't want to do that with because then they could close up / become sarcastic / overall become unresponsive in the debate so it's the best option frankly
Watching the beginning of this, see how normal and kind we can be when we for a moment put our guards and issues with each other down and see each other in person rather than through a screen
The irony is that sneako is too inexperienced to recognize he sounds like a bot. He's a prime example why I'm happy I didn't have the internet growing up. I didnt start actually sounding smart until I was like 26 and even then it was still halfway retarded. Meanwhile my peers were steadily paying out mad amounts of alimony and falling under this red pill umbrella and mega incelled. This thinking isn't new. I do agree though alot of people shouldn't have the internet.
@@capnhicks7186 he doesn't have mid life he makes 6figure a month mid people who make less than 6figure a year should shut up not criticize ambition driving people
I think it's good to talk to sneako because he's closer to our side than you all realize and having good relationships with right leaning people will keep them out of the arms of the far right.
Honestly, i agree. The better the relationship between right wingers and left wingers the less power and influence the far right and far left will have, which will create better rooms for dialogs and better solutions to some problems
Sneako has potential to evolve into something better. He's just young, shallow and materialistic. Equates wealth with success, happiness and intellect...He needs to live life, collect experiences and then depending on how he processes those he could turn out all right
A live streaming youtuber in miami isn't going to get any experience worthwhile. he's just going to be worse. He'll be just like the fresh n fit guys when he's 35. Surrounded by yes-men and opportunistic "influencer" women. That's the rest of his life.
But the problem is the more money he makes, doing what he's currently doing, he has no reason to change his mindset.. The money will re-affirm his thought process...
▼Catch Destiny watching Sneako talk to the women on Fresh N Fit and other bonus content on the second channel▼
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Destiny has an open relationship with his wife, I can't respect anyone who lets their wife get screwed by other men. N let's be honest, destiny ain't getting nothing out of it, it's his wife that does
@@Sanji_Vinsmoke_69 sorry to break it to you but Sneako literally sat next to his girlfriend while she f#@kd multiple men.
@@Shellybelly778 I actually just found out about that but I never liked sneako to begin with. Maybe the jealousy is what got him redpilled but at least he's snapped out of it now
@@Sanji_Vinsmoke_69 u realize he has other hoes too right
Cope, sneako, fuentes, and lauren will flip destiny soon
This is like watching a concerned father gently admonishing his wayward son. Surprisingly wholesome tbh.
he will be redpilled in 2 years.
fr its lowkey funny to see destiney try to get through sneako
I agree! They're so cute together. I hope Sneaky allows Destiny to open his mind a little.
@@jubilantsleep It's actually the other way around. When a lot of you guys here are confronted with "red pill" talking points, you either respond with vitriol or horrible "strawman" arguments.
It feels more like big bro comes home from college to talk some sense into you
Destiny getting banned from Twitch was ironically the best thing that could happen to him. The content has been incredible, and his channel has much more potential for growth.
Yep, too bad he can't go on other people's streams
I only started watching after he got banned and I'm probably not alone with that.
@@illusion6559 Same actually. I had watched a debate or two with him but found him annoying probably cause a girl I knew was annoying about how much she liked him. Saw he got banned for no real reason and tried watching him again and its enjoyable.
@@cocacolaenjoyer why?
@@thehighone3175 because he's banned
destiny trying to convince sneako that being a human is okay for 45 minutes
Alri but I think both them have a point
Being a bot is okay*
Sneako is 80% right I disagree with the multiple wives stuff and not settling down
Destiny has a soft spot for women. Queens I mean.
@@valenci3069 whats he 80 percent right about
I love how Sneako and Destiny can have different opinions and beliefs bust still have a very good relationship, this is how people should be
This is what i preach
fact
His view on women is far too degrading. I don't even know if you can have him around female friends, family, or kids with the crazy stuff he says. He got uninvited from his own families Christmas, so he obviously can't put a lid on it.
They didn't
@@goddessrick8734 His views on women aren’t really that “crazy,” all he says is he couldn’t see himself with one but if he keeps that open with the women he is with then it’s completely fine, he was uninvited from his family due to his political views now views on women, but hey you can keep protecting women from non existent threats, have a good day
Not gna lie. I love the fact that Snaeko is willing to keep engaging with Destiny. Shows me that he's at the very least willing to engage with opposing opinions.
something andrew tate needs to learn how to do
It’s only because this brings him attention. I feel like sneako is a narcissist that gets off by people constantly talking about HIM. It’s always about HIM
@@lavarball528 at this point I would bet my left testicle that he knows he is so shit but his fan boys it eat so yeah , money comes , money goes
For as much as I disagree with his most recent takes, he seems to know that he doesn’t have all the answers and destiny is able to argue and debunk what he says without humiliating him.
@@lavarball528 Andrew is way to invested at his age.
The fact you guys completely disagree on everything and still can sit next to each other is very respectable 💪🏾
Word
I think that watching people on the internet yell at each other or maje random posts in twitter about each other makes us feel that this normal conversations or relationships between people thay disagree are not possible
@@ironmaiden93ofangmar yeah but in normal situation if one human with one human that disagree and agree in same topic debate and talking about it, it's easily to having angry and can't control mood moment.
Sneako is a parrot. He doesn’t believe any of this. He’s doing only what his followers and the algorithm wants him to do
They even went out and had dinner with another buddy afterward 🤟
A girl who thinks you're a 'pussy' because you cry if one of your parents dies is exactly the kind of girl you want to stay away from, and it's exact kind of girl Sneako's mentality attracts. A high value woman will recognize if you have strength in your actions and also respect you in moments of vulnerability, like every human being has.
Well I cried in front of my sister. She doesn't respect me anymore. I guess my sister is a girl I should stay away from?
@@killa-ma-jig7281 yes?
@@mariemackaybooks935 No. The moral of the story: Don't cry in front of women because they will mistake your vulnerability with weakness.
@@killa-ma-jig7281 so you will cage up ur feelings and never show ur deeper self truthfully just bc of ur shitty sister? I’m sorry u went through that :( but not all women are ur sister. And not all men are hitler. I have a little brother and I care for him like I’m his mom, he cries and vents whenever he’s sad to me, overwhelmed, stressed or even angry at someone. I have a healthy relationship with him and will always support him. Ur sister isn’t the one for u, but you will find other people that will cherish you. Just learn from ur sister to never be like her and be a better person to live a happy life
@@dyhaeris I will not ever cry or be vulnerable in front of women because they will mistake it as being weak.
If I want to cry or be vulnerable, I have mentors and bros to talk with. I don't see why I'd risk looking weak in front of my girl, even if I'm actually being vulnerable.
Why is it so important that I be vulnerable in front of women anyway?
I Respect destiny’s patience. I don’t think I’ve ever listened to a more completely out of touch, cringe, arrogant, insufferable, immature person in my life.
He’s gonna look back at this time years down the road and be so embarrassed. He’s so loudly wrong about almost everything and smug as fuck. I’ve watched his stuff for years and this turn is so weird it seems like a troll or social experiment
I don’t agree with everything sneako says. But man, You must have not met a lot of people. There’s a reason for his following. A lot of people have the same sentiments as Sneako, putting people in box as immature and insufferable removes any consideration for dialogue or any beneficial discussion
@@AS-oo4gv nah sneakos contrarian/edgy on purpose perhaps bc he gets attention. He’s 99% immature, insufferable and also annoying. Not much to be learned from him lol and this coming from a person who used to like his content
@@sixwaveholddown To you’re first comment, I agree. I do think it’s something he’s going to regret. It was hard to listen to, but it’s important to here him talk in this capacity to hear where his mindset is at rather than a fresh&fit tik tok clip. He should be invited to speak with more people who have more nuanced takes so he can learn. Simply saying he’s some arrogant dude, u gotta remember he’s still like 23. He’s kind of a young guy. Just doesn’t make sense to antagonize him but call out his ideas and statements.
@@AS-oo4gv okay I can appreciate that take truly. You’re probably right. He is young; It’s just weird seeing him “grow down” if that makes sense. Before he seemed curious kinda wise and intellectually experimental. Guess I have to take him as he is now but if I was first introduced to this version of sneako I wouldn’t have given his content the time of day. I hear you though
I love this Operation: Save Sneako arc
I love destiny but it’s huge copium if y’all think sneako will have his mind changed lol
@@ericstein8019 the biggest barrier to Sneako getting his mind changed isn’t going to be his stubbornness, it’s going to be the money. If he gets on stream tomorrow and goes “you know what maybe all women aren’t retarded and maybe some do want to settle down with one man and take care of the home” he’s going to lose all his subscriber growth
@@ericstein8019 Its possible, as destiny said, sneako is young and he seems to be a genuinely smart person thats just a little misguided. I do think he will change, its just going to take a few years probably.
U mean salvage operation arc
Honestly tho
Good to see Steven reunited with his long lost son.
So wholesome
😂
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Lol
How can he be a dad if he’s a cu ck lmaoo
Destiny's patience to teach this guy to critically think is incredible
Id say
Yea he knows he’s garnering a huge audience of politically homeless young men
the fact you consider destiny an authority on critical thinking is sad
@@authenticambience4765 well who would you consider someone with critical thinking in the online political community ? Vaush , Hassan , Lauren ? I thought so
@@authenticambience4765 better than being a lobotomized redpiller
Every time Sneako tries to explain why he doesn't want to be a certain way (like growing up/having fulfilling relationships, etc), he goes "because I don't wanna be like uhharrrggh warhhh uhh," and that's his explanation. Signs of fully formed thoughts, right there.
Omg I died. Too funny
seek truth though funny, if you get it you get it, if you dont you dont
Indeed. But to be fair, at the time of this video, the guy was like 23 years old, and it shows. I'm looking forward to seeing him ten years from now.
That's because is hard to defend opinions you don't actually believe in lmao. Is obvious that he just acts like this on purpose for clout
Destiny has so much patience and maturity to not get mad and try and pull sneako from insanity
“But they called Steven Jobs insane”🤓🤓🤓
Except Sneako isn't insane. You're just still very naive and experiencing cognitive dissonance
@@skmg2888 cope
He's not insane. He just lacks critical thinking skills and has made the manosphere cult his identity.
@@skmg2888 says the man who looks up to sneako
pro-tip: don't take life and relationship advice from a person with barely any life and relationship experience. i will say the kid seems actually attentive and willing to listen which i respect
Or from a gamer who's in an open relationship.
@@sinatra222 Bruh, Destiny has proven he's got his shit together and understands life and relationships.
@@RaveWiingz cope
Didn't expect to see the T1J in a destiny comment section this is a pleasant surprise
@@cx3622 That's a brainlet response, bot.
The part about sneako not being able to cry around his partner even if he had a parent die was truly sad to listen to. I can’t imagine being with someone who you aren’t comfortable showing even a hint of emotional vulnerability around
That just shows all of that started in the household. He clearly is missing things from his childhood
Even Aba & Preach advise against it.
A lot of partners use vulnerability to exploit it at the first chance, they get made that you aren't vulnerable around them because they feel uncomfortable that they can't use said vulnerability.
@@rutgerhauser2377 that’s not how it works. if that’s the case for you, find better women
@@dess234 Honestly, even when y'all don't realize y'all do that without realizing.
It's not necessarily malicious it's just in the nature of humanity.
@@dess234
Aba & Preach did a breakdown: th-cam.com/video/rtJLYN1fxGw/w-d-xo.html
Sneako is 23 saying he’s dated tons of women with PHDs. Okay then 😂
Red pill dudes lie a lot I'm noticing🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You have to believe it’s a lie, bot
@@OoFuZiioNxX How many people fo you think have a PhD at 23 years old?
But he also do not understand PHD will not just give intelligence. You get PHD, which gives you more options, and then you have more opportunities to grow, learn even more, work, etc. So around 30, you are smart but not when you are 23!
@@othmaneelmansouri6314 he didn't say he had a PhD
proud to see destiny using the "that's cool" debate tactic he picked up from the Hasan - Tate debate
Yeah, I noticed that right away when he said "That's cool".
What kinda tactic is that💀
@@youngboy5285 idk ig it comes off as dismissing or something
@king fuqurmahmen I think he's kind of practicing integrating it into his conversation by kind of spamming it a bit.
Pls tell me who is the one that Sayed thats cool ? Hassan or tate ?
Wow, Steven's kind of having a glow up. This is has been a really constructive journey as of late. He's been showing an astounding amount of patience when listening to the Red pill community. Plus he's giving really helpful advice to for these young guys to overcome their negative attraction bias against women. It feels a lot more constructive than just laughing them off and allowing them to fester in insular communities
Destiny talked about his shift towards focusing on empathy in debates, and it’s helped him engage in a constructive way imo. Destiny talking about growing up reminds me of where he started in sc2 days.
lol compared to the lunatics he has been debating on the left the past few years this is easy mode.
@@deshawnmartins8206 he’s left leaning lol
@@dess234 and he himself says the left are lunatics
@@dess234 Deshawn is talking about the people on the left who think trans athletes should play in women’s sports and any other opinion is transphobic.
Little did Sneako know that he talked to man who has a girls name.
never gets old
I love that this type of comment is in every fucking video goddamn please never let this meme die.
@@idkhbtfmandnowimsad994 it shall go on and on and on and on. Echos through eternity
SICK BURN
Destiny is a 10
As a woman, it feels so nice when my boyfriend cries with me because he got shit going on. I actually think it makes him seem strong (especially with the societal expectations that man shouldn't cry, and as sneako says, "seen as weak') and it makes me feel trusted and loved that he feels he can be vulnerable with me.
2:03
You won't think the same when you'll eventually loose respect towards him and end up breaking up because you don't feel like he is a "man" anymore.
@@geekmanful lose*
Read a book.
@@geekmanful Here's the facts; you are terrified to cry in front of women because you think they will view you as less masculine, you base all of your sense of masculinity and self-worth on external validation from women, and the fact that you need validation from others to determine your self-worth makes you weak. Being terrified of showing vulnerability is a weakness
@@geekmanful “you like it now but I know more about you and your life than you do random internet person” this is you, you are a clown.
They're SO close to understanding each other, if only Sneako could accept that it's okay not to be sigma omega ultra grinder all the time everything else would fall into place.
Not really. A man should always be on his mission at all times.
@@jman8802 A man's mission is to be a cryptocuck?
@@jman8802 a man whose life is his mission is a man who has nothing when the mission ends
@@WPC799 depends on the mission
If you don’t have missions or a reason getting up in bed then what’s the point of living? It works vice versa
Sneako doesn’t seem to realize that we still need people to build houses, fix your plumbing, collect your garbage and grow your food. If those people can’t do well than your society is fu****
Yea he's really ignorant of how the real world works
He's honestly becoming what he hates as well. He sees the elites who discourage us from "progress" as evils who force us into compliance. The same elites who put money over morality. And now he's striving to be a part of that group who looks down on the lesser class and views us as less than human. He doesn't see the danger in that mindset, because once you start to dehumanise people, you'll be more willing to join the supremacist elites who exploit people. I hope he wakes up
But are those people respected by the society? No, so why should you do something that is low paying and you get no respect for it why degrade yourself so much?
@@jorgemiller325 construction and plumbing you can make a decent living off of. It goes to show yall are losing your minds watching these clown ass losers who make their money selling you on pyramid schemes. Plumbing has been known to get you paid, plenty of trades in general will get you paid. Its hard work but its work thats worth it.
@@jorgemiller325 because they are men not insecure boys who care what people think about them, to put simply there are jobs that no one wants to do but need to be done. No one wants to be a a garbage man no one want to jump in sewers and fix the pipes it takes a strong confident person to do so, which is why you find the strongest individuals in this professions and the most back stabbing horrible people in easy professions that everyone wants to do
"Everybody CAN get rich". That's literally how casinos operate.
Lol my thoughts exactly. I was thinking “damn this guy must REALLY be into gambling I bet..”
He puts on this act to make money, He just makes stuff up to sell his course. He's just a fraud and it's cringe.
anybody not everybody is what I think
Destiny sounds so smart. And he’s just a normal human being😂 I love how he doesn’t even have to think to correct sneako haha “why not 6 girls?. That’s programming! Only one! “
“Why don’t u have 70 friends?”
“I don’t have the time to build the relationship with 70 friends”
Lmao he’s so close to being able to think.
he never said he wants 70 gfs lol . he said why not 6 girls and he said he had 5 - 6 friends. not for me but seems fairly consistent
Thats such a stupid analogy and if you really think its a good one then good luck to you i gueess
@@andreja9119maybe you can enlighten me. Why isn’t it a good analogy? Seems pretty straight forward. Don’t have enough time to build the relationship like that with multiple ppl.
@@andreja9119 you don't have time for 6 girls so prove to me that it's a dumb argument
@@johnlee2943 Destiny wasn't talking about having 6 bang buddies. He was talking about having 6 life partners. He was saying that the kind of deep relationship that most of us want in life is the sort of thing that is hard to develop with more than one person.
I like how he basically admitted to growing up relatively wealthy and still wants to shit on working class people for not trying hard enough. That’s was really cool and wise.
I fucking knew he would be
I’m not saying it’s a shit thing but honestly
How many of these public figures grew up with a big ass house
Not in an apartment
I hate how destiny didn't really push back on that and instead just chose to speak from his perspective. It could be easily flipped on him so hard.
The fact is when you give broad advice you have to give advice that actually works for most people. Telling people to make money through crypto is as worthless as a if Hasan had said "just get your uncle to give you a job! easy!".
New York relatively wealthy second class
Well common. He was relativly whealthy but He didnt had an easy Start when it comes to his TH-cam career. Still He made it. Most people whould have had better conditions when it comes to their TH-cam careers. Man his parents didnt speak to him (if thats true)
@@basedchad6035 I’m sure he’s gone through some shit. You should still try to be a somewhat empathetic person though I think.
Sneako is so depressingly poisoned by the manosphere. As a lady, a guy who doesn't process his emotions when something terrible happens to him is a *red flag.* Like, that's how serial killers react, and women generally try not to date serial killers. The fact he views our half the population as one shallow monolith speaks to how he thinks of all women as sexy bundles of algorithms, not as people. It's a very Manosphere way to view us, and I legit hope he'll grow out of it.
As a guy, I’ll say he should eventually once he sees it from a third person perspective
Destiny will save him
I want to tattoo " Women are human just like you." on every manosphere gurus forehead so their fans & followers can read it.
Just like you said you're a woman and you will never understand or comprehend the philosophy of the manosphere.This so called''poisoning'' are just super bitter truths that not anyone has the guts to accept.Truth is the truth and it is not pretty.
That's a false statement, if that was true serial killers like Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy etc wouldn't have so many fangirls writing them letters. Jeremy Meeks a career criminal who went viral because of his mug shot and women jumping over him, donating him money just because he is attractive. The point is looks matter the most for a women personality and all that other 💩 are rules made by women for average looking dudes.
I really feel bad for Sneako. Has all the ambition that most of us lack but absolutely ZERO wisdom or self reflection. By the time he realizes what he needs in life he'll have lost it all.
Strongly disagree he still has several years. But even if he never changed he'll still have an audience of haters or fans either way he'll make bank.
@@johnlongschlong3461 Facts
yeah 0 wisdom and self reflection..Not like his entire main channel was content based on those things.Just cause he doesn't get to the same conclusion as you it doesn't mean he lacks any of those things u are saying.
Wow you guys are all malding. Look, it should come to literally no surprise that a Destiny commenter generally agrees with Destiny's observations lol
@@johnlongschlong3461 lol agreed, i held most his views until like 23 and the mfs 23 years old lol. by 25-27 he will be different. destiny gonna give the mf alot to think about and reflect on.
Man this was a good debate. I feel sorry for sneako, he is seriously deluded. He isn't stupid or anything but man he has been scarred in his life and can't overcome it and is just bitter.
his brain is just broken, hes spent probably 5+ years building up this image in his head about the world without questioning it for a second.
Its like some modern form of internet induced psychosis. Horrifying
That's all of them
21:00
21:00
I genuinely laughed watching this. That hasn't happened in a while. Y'all actually work well together imo.
I'm loving this duo man haha
more like for this comment. undervoted. future collabs is a must
If Destiny keeps up the patients and wisdom Sneako seems honest enough that he could grow into a well rounded individual, and a good friend.
Sneako seems like a genuine good guy with good intentions, he just doesn't have the best ideas for some stuff.
Sneako is ahead of the game.
after reading your comment i just can't shake the feeling... this is gonna end in bloodshed isn't it?
@@MrCubassss Destiny has a track record lol - Though not his fault at least.
It just seems like Sneako has no one around him who actually challenges him. Some of his opinions are so surface level and you can tell he has never actually thought about them in depth.
31:40 I think sneako’s response is very telling. Just because someone doesn’t want to be a leader doesn’t mean they want to fall completely in line. I’ve got a close friend with the same mindset. Seems like really young and ambitious people project their goals onto everyone around them rather than accept that other people might have different notions of fulfillment. Its why its so funny to hear him talk about “programming” in the west when he’s tripping all over himself to achieve a purely western idea of success.
He got a lot of money this month because of his new mindset
You can tell the difference from ppl through their mindsets. Sneakos get money mindset is clearly working cuz its working in real time. I’ve never seen ppl who hate on that mindset ever become wealthy. I have seen ppl who think like this get their bag tho.
because sneako is at the age where he thinks any sign of weakness/capitulation/diplomacy/compromise is a bad thing and turns you into a female dog which is a 100% programmed line of thinking. Here's hoping to him finally getting his balls to drop at some point in the next 10 years...
@@Bluurji Do you think that could be because the people who hate that mindset and are wealthy don't feel the need to flaunt their wealth?
@@jjrobledo That's called being a grifter
I kind of love how him and Sneako are getting closer to each other with every debate, it is like a father son relationship that Sneako finally got.
More like an older brother tbh
Sneako claims he had a perfect family so idk what you mean by this. Sneako had perfect parents so there’s nothing wrong with him by his means he doesnt need a father son relationship from destiny because he has a great fathe sneako is just a shitty guy who came from a good family
@@autumn576 Touch grass and respect women, I can already see the writhing soul of you trying to defend him. He is not a person to be inspired by and until you can see that, I cannot help nor continue giving you a shovel to dig yourself even deeper.
Sneako has an actual father.
Maybe learn shit about Sneako before going off.
Confident ignorance. That's your dumb @ss rn
This is adorable. I remember when I was this self-assured. Ahh to be young.
For real. Imagine someone telling you "you need to find a deeper, meaningful relationship" and thinking "lol I'm 23 and I've been in relationships with girls all over the world."
No, you've had sex with girls all over the world. Dude has literally no clue at all what a real relationship even looks like. Addicted to dopamine.
Same lmao, to be so fkn sure of life and then your remember slowly realising you have no idea wtf you’re talking about, and the working on rebuilding your worldview.
And that’s on growth - I’m sure sneako will come to this realisation like most of us do - hopefully lol
I also remembered when I thought Iwas the smartest person in the room. I'm no longer foolishly thinking I can be an engineer and I'm now settling for that simple accountant lifestyle.
I’m 21 but i don’t think like this. I know im always learning and maturing. It’s foolish to think you know everything
@@theprofesionalist7927 Thats good! People need more of that mindset. Peoples brains have limitations and need to understand what they arent capable of.
I consider myself a fairly calm person in a debate but I would genuinely have to walk away from a conversation with him. Props to you
Why? Is someone else's perspective that bad to you that you couldn't tolerate it?
At the end of the day there are people that are going to apeal to that lifestyle and people that won't. I do t think either of them are wrong it's just different viewpoints
@@Jay-og4yb Someone that talks over you and raises their voice is not trying to have a calm and respectful debate. They are using volume to get their point across and drown you out. It's not my job to teach someone else how to act respectfully during a debate, so I would walk away from that one.
More than happy to hear about other viewpoints stop jumping to conclusions.
@@louisenewson-smith9519 if you are getting talked over and the other guy is getting emotional, you're winning the debate. That's a good thing. You walking away is a forfeiture.
@@Jay-og4yb He was like that throughout the whole video. It doesnt mean you're winning, just means the other person is disrespectful as hell. I've had debates in which I've come out on top and the higher person didnt feel the need to try and talk over me or anything.
yuh and he would laugh clip it and get some views while u mad af
this really made me realize that sneako must not have suffered through shit. yes everyone “can” make it to a higher status but everyone won’t and it’s not bc they’re bots. it’s bc they have REAL things that stand in their way (broken homes, no home, no car, horrible neighborhoods, unexpected family losses/changes, etc). the way he so passively speaks about how he would get over his mother passing is very telling…he hasn’t felt a real pain like that ever.
I dont think he has enough experience in life to be to a point where he can help others with theirs. I used to be just like him, used to say shit like people who commit suicide are just weak willed, stuff like that, and then one day someone you're close to, someone you know is as strong or stronger than you kills themselves and your entire perception of what you know shifts. I'm honestly happy for him that he has that drive, that he has that willpower, that hes succeeding and that hes proud of himself, but he hasn't lived yet. Like you said, he hasn't gone through it, he doesn't understand fulfillement at its basic principle, and therefor he doesn't understand that you can be fulfilled and happy with a lot less.
Would u say the same thing about xqc when he said he wouldn't take a bullet for his child? He was just coping
@@strawhatJ theres like 70k dollars of wiggle room in between those 2 salaries that make up the majority of jobs and that allow you to live a perfectly comfortable and normal life. Id rather be comfortable and slightly less wealth than have millions of dollars with the bullshit that comes with it.
i know people that had struggles that you couldnt imagine and now make 6 figures a year
so yh
"REAL" things happening isn't an excuse not to aspire to be of higher status
you can really come out of every situation if youre smart enough and have the work ethic
@@dartmansam10 You realize you can become a millionaire without being a scammer influencer right? Also you are not living comfortably on 30k a year in america bro, get real.
Lol this is so wholesome to watch, Destiny is truly showing what life experiences can bring to one's maturity.
It's weird how life experiences at the same age can lead people to diametrically opposed conclusions in life.
Sneako seems like the person who at 40-50 years old of age would tell children not to do what he did, no matter how much money he got.
@Sp0iledTransgirl your name is spiked trans girl. Gtf don’t even know your own gender
but he sells his creativity kit and encourages people to 'quit scorlling start posting'
What exact point would you say he won’t agree with?
@@WTFBUTWHY the whole bot shit
@@HelloHello-xe5be no. A specific point. Because most of it is BOT talk lol.
BOT talk basically just means media talking points
I still think sneako genuinely does not understand the logical error in the "everyone can be rich" statement
Everyone can be rich. It’s not a zero sum game.
@@ChairWoodenFloor1 not getting rich in general but getting rich by sneako's preached methods such as crypto speculation is
I wish Destiny would ask him something like "if 100% of the people who listened to you put in the same amount of effort and had the same amount of skill, would 100% of them succeed"?
@@ChairWoodenFloor1 Problem is everyone being "rich" devalues some work and over values other. Think about the inherent values of different work. Doctor vs Guy who flips patties. For both to be rich, someone's gotta get devalued/overvalued.
@@WanderTheNomad He already did. he said only 1% of the people would make money off of crypto, and Sneako's response was "HAHA LOSERS!!1 xD" because he's so unintelligent.
A better question would have been "Well why don't you just tell them to try the lottery to be rich? Everyone CAN win the lottery right?"
Sneakos view on a loving relationship is beyond insane. Destiny is so right about building a life with your significant other. My wife and I have been together since October 2016 and been married since October 2020. The amount of things we have been through moving from different cities, financial ruts and highs, new careers. All of this stuff was possible because we both gave 100% in trying to make things better and I wouldn't take back any of it. It made us better people and better partners. I would have been a completely different person without her and im sure she would be too without me.
Red-Pillers only view women as sexual outlets, housewives, mothers, and cooks. They do not view women as fellow human beings that can be genuinely loved and interacted with on an emotional level, and therein lies the problem.
Although Sneako needs to cut down on some of his toxic black and white views. Destiny is literally a man who has been divorced and is now allowing his girl to fuck other men. The amount of ‘blue-pilled’ men who are in dead marriages or have been divorced is an insane amount too. Red-pill views are a bit too extreme at times and tries to set each sex as all being the same, but generally it has a lot of good ideals and truths that men should strive to learn. They just need to learn to not completely lose their previous selves before they were exposed to ‘red pill’ ideology.
Sounds pretty bad bro
@@ImWaIking yeah right if this dude were a sales person hed get fired
Destiny is indeed right about building a relationship as you say. But I think that him and his wife sharing intimate partners isn’t the best thing for partners in the long term. So I disagree with him in that aspect. I disagree with pretty much everything Sneako says about relationships but can appreciate the surface level messages of ambition
Sneako not understanding how society functions is a treat to watch
Sneako is 100% coping about Tate. He's not happy, and has literally said that happiness makes you weak. That a "Top G" should WANT to be unhappy all the time, because it makes them stronger and they will want to continually improve themselves... Since they are never happy. Tate's philosophy is that a man can only be successful in the pursuit of happiness. Once he is actually happy, he has failed. It's the Bane philosophy of "Peace has cost you your strength. Victory has defeated you".
No he literally has said that he's always happy. With the exception of something truly horrible happening like a death in the family, hes said outright that happiness and depression are just states of mind and he doesn't allow himself to be "depressed" or "anxious". He drives his own state and he's happy or really happy all of the time. you're precisely wrong.
Eh.. the only thing I've heared him say related to that was that he doesn't obsess over the idea of "always being happy" and that as long as he's not facing any serious issues he wakes up with the idea that "today is a good day and I'm happy". I think that the idea that meaning and fulfillment is found in struggle and suffering is so much more liberating than constantly analyzing your mood for down-turns and obsessing over the idea of being happy, it's a self-defeating timesink. Also 100% agree with the guy that all this psychoanalyzing is cringe as fk, keep that neurotic bad habit to yourselves.
@@musicplayah If "psychoanalyzing people is cringe as fk", then why does Tate do it? He literally couldn't even understand what xQc was saying when he said a guy shouldn't run outside in his boxers with a baseball bat to "protect his woman" at the slightest sound. He was trying so hard to psychoanalyze xQc, that he couldn't get past his French Canadian-ness to get the point. xQc wasn't trying to say that a guy should just cower in the closet if someone breaks in. He was saying that a man should make smart, tactical decisions, with the highest chance of survival for everyone.
Which is the absolutely correct thing to do. If a man "hears a noise", they shouldn't just immediately run into the living room blind screaming "WHO'S THERE?!?!" like an idiot... That's how they get shot in the back of the head from some dude in the corner they didn't even see, and end up getting their whole family murdered. If they "hear something", the proper response should be to get a weapon and proceed very cautiously to investigate. If there is a home invasion, immediately retreat, and get everyone in the house to a single room with a lock (and preferably an alternate exit like a window) as quickly as possible. Lock/barricade the door, and call 911. If the home invaders try to breach the door, then you hold that door like you're Hodor in GoT while everyone else tries to escape.
Hodor was happy most of the time in GoT, because he understood his singular purpose in life. To hold that door. He lived his entire life, to hold a door, and if he didn't hold that door... Humanity goes extinct. If you think meaning and fulfillment are found in struggle and suffering, then go play with some toxic chemicals. Give yourself cancer, then tell me about how great it made your life. Lance Armstrong had to struggle, how'd that turn out for him?
You're correct that Tate doesn't obsess over being happy, he obsesses over being sad. This is directly from his TH-cam community page... You MUST put in the effort to get the life you want. Apparently the life Tate wants, is one of sadness. "Give it to me. All of it. I manifest it into POWER.".
"Embrace sadness...
You will leave this world alone.
Or leave your loved ones alone.
Life is sadness.
There is no way out.
Do you smile as you feel pain?
Or try and hide it.
Removing the sting from your sharpest edge.
An act of COWARDICE.
I will never.
Ever.
Take an anti-depressant or some other BS mind-altering substance in an attempt to hide from the certainties of a painful life.
Sadness is universal. A constant. It is here to stay.
I embrace it.
Give it to me. All of it.
I manifest it into POWER.
My biggest victories in life were when I was sad.
Miserable.
World titles.
Millions of dollars.
I never vastly improved my life when I was happy.
A haze of hedonistic non-sense.
Cash wasted.
Big butts on moonless nights.
But very little ACHIEVEMENT.
You MUST put in the effort to get the life you want."
Sneako needs to understand that these so called "bots" are real people doing the jobs that he thinks he's too good for. He should be thanking these bots for doing the shit jobs because at the end of the day, someone has to do them and there's nothing wrong with that.
Yeah I always say we all got our roles to play. They are all important
this red pilled shit only exists because of the ever increasing narcissism thats been happening, not only that but it satisfies the greedy human nature we tend to have
If it weren't for the bots he wouldn't be where he is at now, less have a platform that would allow him to.
@@DevlinXIII yeah sneako is honestly pretty blind to his own ignorance.
Yep exactly. The bots cook his food, built the house he lives in & created the entire platform he uses to "not be a bot"
This is so wholesome.. you guys are great together honestly.
SOY
Man the level of cringe when they got to the section about crying. This is a perfect example of the perspective of a boy vs a grown man. Props to Destiny for keeping the conversation on track.
I genuinely loved this. Two polar opposites being normal and not hating eachother.
It is refreshing
They’re not really “polar opposites” at all though. They’re a a major ven diagram overlay of agreement, they just are at different places in there understanding of these topics.
@@jrgzz They completely disagree on every single topic what are you talking about? Sneako is dead wrong on every little thing, he's the dumbest person who has been on this stream in a few years I think
@@amazin7006 u mad?
@@modaslayor7204 what a great argument wow
This dude has the most cartoonish perception of "manhood" I've ever seen. Good work mentoring this child
Lol
No he doesn’t, he has a very high standard of manhood, that it appears cartoonish. Destiny said himself, Sneako isn’t a “normal” man.
lmao agreed
@@adio8824 Dude if for you manhood is about being rich and f-ing a lot of women you have never progressed beyond 12 years old.
Might as well go with Conan the Barbarian "Big strong, drinks beer from the skulls of his enemies and has sex with rescued princesses."
@@adio8824 ok but can you explain how letting your woman sleep with other men is any form of manhood? Cause that’s what destiny does fyi…and we young men are supposed to be taking his advice?
Sneako needed an older brother who can debate politics and society with him. I'm so glad that Destiny is so patient to fulfill that role. I actually can see Destiny and Sneako becoming a cool duo if Sneako matures a bit and things go well. Not saying they'll agree on everything, but they could possibly be friends.
The whole patience thing is kinda patronising. Destiny isn't the wise wizard of knowledge, and tbh he is pretty clueless when it comes to the true operations of modern day society.
He's very intelligent, but hasn't the insight to see the world for what it really is.
Society is an human farm designed to keep us free-range slaves to perpetual national debt.
I've known a lot of 'stupid' people who are very aware of this world, and a lot of 'smart' people who are absolutely ignorant and indoctrinated.
What role does aba fulfill for sneako? 🤔
@@dong2035 I don't think there's an easy role that Aba falls in for Sneako, but the closest I can think of is an 'uncle'. I dunno though, since that doesn't always happen in every video between Aba and Sneako.
Well he's currently moving in the opposite direction. Doesn't realize yet he's being manipulated by Tate.
@@d_rod3 he's kind of letting himself be manipulated. tate isn't really responsible for sneako's beliefs.
10 days ago I had no idea who destiny was. But I have gained respect for you dude. We don't agree on everything but Your viewpoints are respectable.
Destiny low-key wants to adopt Sneaky and I think that's adorable.
Sneaky
@@user-xg6tv5hl6s Was an autocorrect at first but now I like it better than his actual name
Kinda gay
@@jubilantsleep He sounds better as sneaky
I feel like the use of the word "bot" at everyone just living a normal life sort of encapsulates the type of human Sneako is. Many people are fulfilled in their lives just being happy where they are. They find joy and comfort in their families and they don't find their weird desperate clawing for validation that Sneako seems to have.
this somehow reminds me of the philosophy of mob psycho, that there's nothing wrong with being ordinary and you're not unique and special, it takes a lot of humility to accept that you're just like everybody else
happy being bots
@Sp0iledTransgirl he’s just a 23 year old kid, who just copy everything he seen on the internet about the redpill and now thinks he knows it all and that everyone is a “normie”
But him
Yeah he talks about how western society has ruined many things but that Anglo-western mindset is precisely what he is perpetuating. Vast majority of human civilization were content with local life before colonization
They are fulfilled because they are ignorantly in bliss. Which is exactly why society crumbles against these docile apathetic men who choose to do absolutely nothing
You can’t care about your family and be a passive man. You are just a male at that point. Every man in charge of a family should take a active lead
As a long time fan of Sneako, his perspective and the way he was seeing the world was interesting to me, but he's been more toxic and materialistic over time, I hope Destiny can get through to him and he actually self improves
Same. The content he did when he was younger (as in child) had great potential. I never expected that he would turn out this way. What a waste
the irony of being so afraid of coming across as "not confident" because you cry in front of your partner due to a traumatic event.. it just wreaks of insecurity
Sure does
Sneako has never failed in life. The fact that he had a home and 2 parents and saying he got it on his own is insane to me. You were making TH-cam videos by 14. I was homeless trying to get my next meal at 13. You cannot tell me you are where you are because aren’t more privileged.
To be fair, a lot of people were making videos at 14 and never made success. He didn't make it on his own, but it wasn't just because he's privileged. You're oversimplifying.
I grew up with my parents as well I still say I have it on my own. How? Because
everything in life is a choice.
My parents only showed me the way but I didnt have to take it. So all credit does go to me. It's one thing to inform somebody and teach but it's another to take the action.
@@jman8802 true but you have to give your parents credit as well. Because they didn’t have to teach you anything or take care of you either. Because everything is a choice like you say
@@jman8802 I do agree with you to a point though don’t think I don’t: because you are right, some people just choose to fuck up. They can have good loving parents with money and still decide to go out and join a gang and sell in do drugs because they think it’s cool and no other reason
@@stillnotchill2560 yes I am oversimplifying a bit but to say he got it on his own is wrong. Success has a lot to do with luck and people don’t want to admit that. Even people like pewdiepie will tell you, the most successful TH-camr of all will say a lot of it has to do with luck.
Being in a great marriage is an experience like no other, and it's difficult to understand/explain to someone who has never had one. It also flies in the face of every stereotype of what a woman thinks a "manly man" is. I can tell Sneako is too independent to truly connect with a woman he's dating. It's not for everyone
Guys like sneako never make it past a year in relationships.
Imagine laying on your death bed and reminiscing on memories with numerous different girls vs all of it with 1 girl.
@@user-br3fk8dx8o A marriage of roses, daisies and chocolates is a red flag in itself. Love bombs don't do shit for a relationship long term
@@user-br3fk8dx8o And as I said, it's not for everyone. It is a huge commitment
@@THB_DX it's not about the commitment. It's the gendered laws and unfavorable rulings that men have faced in divorce and child custody
@@user-br3fk8dx8o This is the relationship equivalent of “better not go outside because you can die.” There are - literally - millions of successful marriages. In fact, there are more successful marriages than unsuccessful marriages, and that ratio has been steadily increasing since the 50s.
wow nathan grew up a lot since the last time we’ve seen him. Good to know you’re done being an absentee father
Daaaaamn
Sneako: I did not have any mental support, I just had both parents together in a nice house. 😂 That's the perfect description of mental support! Knowing you are not going to starve because you live in your parents house and you do not need to work at 16 while studying at the same time to provide for the family so all your little brothers have food on the table. Welcome to your privilege, just accept it and be grateful for it.
He's one of those people who blame their amazing parents or parents for actually raising them right and taking care of them properly by suggesting they were being smothered or held back from living life so they live the life they lived because their parents forced them to in some form of defiance because their parents loved them too much. I've talked to someone like that
You must never have experienced an emotionally unavailable and neglectful parent. Ignorant comment. I’m actually shocked to hear his father was in the home because it’s very clearly obvious this boy has not had any guidance. He was probably in his bedroom alone for 18 years virtually raising himself.
I saw the latest video from destiny about Sneako's earlier videos. There he was praising his father. Here he is not.
What happened?
Not the point he was making at all but okay
@@Cadambank because he wasnt criticizing his parents in this lmfao. Just saying he did the video thing by himself with no help.
Sneako's age, lack of wisdom/perspective is so apparent here. He is so certain he has the world figured out. Confidence like this with a big platform combined with such misguided positions is toxic and possibly dangerous to anyone younger and more impressionable than him. I'm so impressed with destiny and his ability to be some kind of male role model in this conversation to him. Good shit!
Saying "toxic" is feminine bruh
Can you pls explain how young men are supposed to take advice from a person that lets their woman sleep with other men?
Lmao toxic and dangerous? People are so soft these days.
@@tranformersaddiction He’s in an open relationship. he sleeps with other women and she sleeps with other men. everyone is different and it’s not like he actively promotes the lifestyle since only particular people can actually live it. being in an open relationship doesn’t take away from the great advice he gives to men.
@@rokaaay4 Open relationship - another word for the age old phrase “I don’t love you or find you attractive anymore but I still want the financial benefits of being with you.”
This does take away from the advice he’s giving to men because he is where is is today because of these choices he made. There are certain things that I agree with but he can’t make the argument that ‘toxic masculinity will make you unhappy in the end’ if in the end his girl is getting piped down by multiple men - that’s just a dude that most young men don’t want to be.
I swear, Sneako has the emotional capacity of a teaspoon……I feel like crying on his behalf and I’m still going to be a confident man.
Bomb dropped
Haha! True. I love when men are strong enough to be vulnerable and cry. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
He really doesn't seem like a bad guy. Just a misguided kid who think he has the world figured out. Hopefully with time he does some self reflection and changes his views on life. Destiny could be a positive influence in his life that challenges his world views.
He seems like he lacks empathy, for whatever reason.
@@Darkpumpkin21 could be true. He can't put himself in the shoes of a woman but he expects her to know what he's feeling. Don't know the guy personally so can't really say.
I don't think so
@@iamwooth1729 He can't put himself in the shoes of a woman
He can't put himself in anyones shoes. But hey, it is well known that empathy is only beneficial trait in small societies, in big ones where you can dissapear in a crowd not having empathy is not punished.
@@Darkpumpkin21 1. he was not raised right. Mommy or Daddy issues. Neglect possibly. Insanely hard for him to grow as a man when hes getting rewarded for his behavior
ya know, this is surprisingly entertaining. A lot of people are giving Destiny props for his cool headed responses and questions but I don't see enough props going to sneako for willing to do something like this... in person, live, and even sitting shoulder to shoulder.
yeah, sneako really seems like a guy that hates being the center of attention, i'm sure this was a big sacrifice for him.
Why would someone props someone like Sneako, that is here to chase clout and has the most immature takes. The guy is 24 and thinks he knows the truth about life... Hes just another dumbass
@@cawatrooper4278 lmfao OP almost got me. Thank you for your comment.
I'm a 32 year old programmer, currently in a lead position in a high earning job. Something I've learned from being in this position is that I do not want to be a leader. You can still be a "high value man" without having the egotistical red pill mindset these manbabys are trying to sell you. These mindsets do not lead to happiness.
Why does that job and money alone make you high value
Don't ever consider yourself or anyone in a term of "value", it's such a creepy way to talk about people as if all their worth is in their income or sex appeal.
It degrades others as humans to nothing but credit cards or flesh lights and I can't believe people unironically use this red pill terminology like "she's a 3 low value female who shouldn't be looking for a high value man and instead settle for some low value beta male." and shit like that.
This only leads to self destruction as no one that watches these people are "high value" since they're all teens living with their parents being told that women are literal objects and if you don't have at least five medium value women than you're a brokey bot bitch.
Can u hire me
What state? I’m looking for internships lol
@@rememberme3762 it doesnt this guy could possibly be a goofy dork who has money. High value is a complete package
Honestly I think this is great. Sneako being invited to Destiny’s place and debating in person. Regardless of what you believe being able to sit down and have a genuine conversation with someone with opposing views is what the internet needs right now. You can tell these guys are cool with each other. They’re having a great time.
SOY they’re having a conversation! Centrist statements SOY
29:55 “I had an internet connection. Like we all do.”
Amazing how he proves Destiny’s point without even realizing it
Even having a family that feeds you and protects you gives you the chance to make videos. Sneako just doesnt get it.
how are you commenting then, everyone who like your comment and will see your comment has a internet connection.
@@saurabh4721 What are you talking about? He isn't saying he doesn't have internet he is saying not everyone has internet. Sneako is a dumbass because he thinks he is selfmade because he bought a computer and is completely ungrateful to his luck being born in a rich country with a strong economy (in my country a resident doctor would have to work 4 months to buy a 1000 euros laptop, assuming they love in the street and eat tree leaves aka 0 expenses), but also having a family who paid for him to be educated, fed, clothed etc...
@@saurabh4721 The point is Sneako doesn’t recognize how much of a privilege it is to not only have an internet connection, but also the equipment necessary to stream. And at 14 he definitely didn’t pay for the home or the modem, or the router, or the internet bills that enabled him to do what he did.
Damn I used to rock with Sneako hard. But watching this is sort of sad. It feels like he's fallen so far down this hole that by the time he realizes what he really wants in life or what's important life will have passed him by
IT is sad to see think these boys are different than others, while they are exactly like toxic modern people just with more money! No good woman wants him, so he just think all of us are like party girls
he's a young millionaire with plenty of time to figure his shortcomings out, feel sorry for yourself mate.
this dude has never dealt with an ounce of adversity in his life
Dude his life and upbringing was mad good aside from maybe stuff he hasn’t mentioned but I never heard him speaking of hard times ever growing up or even now
Sneako actually came across as a human being in this discussion. I think you can tell that Destiny is actually having an impact on Sneako and he has some level of respect for Destiny. Destiny's impact on people is actually so impressive.
no that's just sneako in real life
The answer to masculinity is somewhere in the middle between Andrew Tate and destiny. They are both drastically different and that's the point. Tate goes too far but destiny goes too soft in my opinion
@@Jay-og4yb very true
@@Jay-og4yb I wouldnt want to be anything like destiny lmao. and have his taste in partners. aka anavoir
@@Jay-og4yb Naw Destiny is a good spot
Always good to see people willing to debate in person and do it with at least some kind of mutual respect.
@Destiny man, the most impressive thing from this debate is your patience. Like Sneako(no disrespect) is just like a teenager, yelling and not even trying to consider he might be wrong and you remain calm. This is just like watching a rebellious teenager talking to a 50 year old MAN. Respect for remaining calm and trying to explain to him the values of life.
24:30 I think this would make for a very interesting discussion at some point! I disagree but I'm not sure if we are talking about the same thing
3:55 I love it
@Arjun Ravichandran he deleted his twitch account in response to destiny getting banned
@Arjun Ravichandran fk twitch
@Arjun Ravichandran yeah, he explains it in a vid on his channel
@Arjun Ravichandran He follows Destiny for a while I saw his comment long time ago and also he was in audience in some live event (not sure if he genuinely went there to see Destiny or was just around on this event).
I guess he's talking about manufacturers/designers disappearing and just online resellers of cheap mass produces stuff out of China they put their label on.
Sneako's getting free therapy via Destiny and doesn't even realize it...
17:49 This is the poison that is red pill. Once you buy into this idea that there is this concept of "female nature", you ascribe all negative attributes of a handful of toxic women to ALL women, which means even if Sneako does grow out of this crap and finds and wants to settle down with a truly good woman, there is a chance he will never be able to truly trust her because in the back of his mind, no matter how amazing she is, he will be fearful that she will eventually expose herself as another toxic woman. Because that's "female nature" right? This is what happens to a LOT of men who get into red pill crap and it f*cks them up royally. They will never be able to truly be vulnerable around a woman, thus they will never have a truly fulfilling relationship, and eventually will just go full on black pill, trying to attain materialistic crap to fill the void of their empty, empty lives.
It will be a little while before sneako realizes it lol. Neat to see you in destiny's comments, I liked your PUA story video :)
Love your watchman video, sneako could benefit from your masculinity video i feel lol
@@benhobbs8705 At this point I think he would just convince himself I am a blue pill cuck (which I am of course) and write off any points I or Destiny or anyone else makes.
Love your videos bro!
I was thinking earlier that this whole movement will die but it'll take years, and I wonder later in life, when the Red Pill losers are all single, divorced, kids can't stand them, they'll see the folly. But by then the damage to a generation of young men will be done. I actually think they'll all be sad and fat and lonely in their late 30s early 40s. You can get away with a lot of shit in your 20s, and youth and energy gets you a long way. But it doesn't last long and the sad thing is they'll all realise too late.
Sneako is new to this game. None of these thoughts are originally his. Shoutout to Destiny for challenging the social norm. 💯
I'm a pretty driven person, and I never understood why some people are so happy being 'normal'. But as I've grown, I've come to envy these people, because if they're happy then they've already reached their goals. At the end of the day, we do all this work because we believe there will be a time you can sit back, look at all you've done and be content and happy. If someone is truly happy making 50k a year, then objectively they've skipped the grind and gone straight to finish line. We need the Elon Musks of the world, but we also need the people who turn up everyday and build the cars and clean the factories.
You are also normal though, you just fight against it while other people make their peace with it earlier.
Sneako is absolutely unbearable. He’s exactly the type of person I try to avoid.
the kind that can´t stop talking about how they´re the only ones being "real", while constantly and transparently shielding themselves from honest and open engagement by constantly putting on a mask of laughter and a 2cool4school attitude. I don´t think he´s intellectually not up to the task, he´s just scared. When Destiny brought up the strength and confidence it takes to be vulnerable, it seemed like he got this close to having his entire worldview shattered.
But you don’t understand how these two men can disagree with each other yet have normal conversations and clearly are helping each other thats should be respected. Respect to both
@@mellowmousegaming795 I have no respect for Sneako, he’s an insufferably obnoxious asshole. I wouldn’t be able to stand 1 minute around him. Just because he can talk to destiny doesn’t mean I need to respect him. He’s also not helping Destiny at all lol what
@@mellowmousegaming795 True
@@mellowmousegaming795 as long as you're a man and take the L don't matter if you're a shithead. I respect guys that can openly speak their stupid ideas. Because if it's stupid we'll get silenced by truth
Sneako is just here to remind us how stupid we used to be.
To think you know it all is ultimate stupidity. Don’t assume that Sneako is absolutely wrong and Destiny is absolutely right. and vice Versa.
@Christian AMA Sneako is literally the definition of someone who thinks they have everything figured out though. I agree that you shouldn’t assume that someone is 100% right or wrong about things-especially yourself-but I don’t think Sneako is taking that advice, and it isn’t unfair to say that it shows in the quality of his arguments.
@@jon.... Isn't his mantra about "seeking truth"??
@@ParzzyvalSneako is absolutely wrong and Destiny is absolutely right. This is not a matter of perspective/differing opinions, it’s just infantility vs being a functional adult… 😄
your comment is so ignorant.. ironic
Props to Destiny for making this video. Addressing Sneako's toxic masculinity in a patient manner is important for a lot of people
If toxic masculinity exists does toxic feminity also exist or is it only okay to hate on men?.
@@ali.a9083 You need examine your own behaviour if you get this defensive over the mere mention that men might have toxic behaviour.
@@smonarch9624 Brilliant response. Just like the other 99% of the npc bots who avoid the question.
@@ali.a9083 lmao calling everyone an npc as if your stuck on a dialogue tree. Something tells me you're not even capable of comprehending an answer.
@@smonarch9624 Don't be disingenuous; that's not what he said.
I like these face to face videos, it removes the safety net from people so they are always pretty respectful
In all of my 50 years on Earth, I don't think I have seen a more entertaining, productive, and civilized debate from two people who are on the complete opposite side of the spectrum.
This should be the blueprint for discord everywhere.
Much respect to both of you!
I wouldn’t say they are on complete different sides
Exactly. This is the type of honest, good-faith, authentic, unscripted conversation that you will NEVER see on any mainstream/corporate news/media outlet. We've all been brainwashed to think of "debate" as a fight, when really it can be calm and intelligent like these two gentlemen here. Good quality conversation and debate doesn't make any money for corporate press compared to fighting, so we never see anything but fighting. Simple as that.
I love that you guys are face-to-face I wish more debates were like this very personal and face-to-face without a public audience clapping and shit just one on one person to person. I love it!
I have plenty of IRL acquaintances that speak and think like Sneako. Destiny does a real good job at challenging some of the parts of the ,,hustler/alpha'' attitude - which in moderation is perfectly fine, but usually badly translates to many spheres of life, especially long-term romantic relationships.
I do appreciate that sneako is listening and even though hes hard headed, he seems to be open minded/thoughtful enough for a little at a time to slip through and change him for the better.
Interesting how much more respectful this in person debate remained compared to the last one online. Great stuff.
Your less likely to throw verbal jabs at someone face to face then you are over the internet. Destiny was more composed due to the direct fear of violence. Also they have been around each other online and in person for a few days/a week now consistently so they have found common ground and respect.
@@randypoole9491 “direct fear of violence” lmao is Sneako that type of dude to throw a tantrum just because someone yelled at him waaaah
@@randypoole9491 sneako weighs 90lbs lmao
i like sneako and im glad you are basically trying to mentor him out of his redpill era lmao he's gone off the rails a little
Stop infantalizing people
@@mariomario1462 Sneako acts like an infant anyway
@@jowbabadook8530 im sure he knows exactly what hes doing. he had more success within the last month than the last 10 years of him dropping deep introspective content, hes putting on an entertainment front
@@mariomario1462 what? destiny is like 10 years older than sneako generally he will have more knowledge and more wisdom he can share, stop being weird.
@@mariomario1462 It's just a fact that he just can't have had the necessary experiences due to his age. Everyone has some regrets about who they were or what they did even just a year ago at that age, plenty look at their 3 year younger self and go "damn I was stupid back then", and it's fine. Social media has put an unhealthy pressure on young people to socially grow up to have it all figured out very quickly. Some grow faster, some slower, but it's often tied to experiences, and there's a limit to what kinds of experiences you can have had at a certain age
This is one of the most mature approaches to the get rich quick mentality subjects.
Props up to Destiny for bringing proper arguments, keeping cool, and explaining things in a way that influences people, both Sneako and especially people watching in a positive manner.
I really appreciate it!
Destiny almost had it, he was so close.
Sneako admitted that:
1. He wants the majority of his audience to suceed.
2. His advise wont make the majority economically benefit.
There's a really simple follow-up question here, that is: "Why wouldn't you want to give advice that would make the majority of your audience benefit?"
Don't have exact timestamps but it all unfolds around 20:00 +
@@hejalll Sneako always says that tf?
@@rbx511 says what
@@hejalll That he wants his audience to succeed
@@rbx511you think he actually wants his audience to succeed?
Sometimes I forget Destiny has a kid. When he talks to Sneako, I am reminded of the patience and understanding of a father.
I’m honestly happy destiny is extending his hand to sneako , we need more of this
Now Sneako knows Destiny is willing to talk to him and reasonable, it hopefully will at the very least push him a little away from the more toxic people who are directing him down a dark, dark, path.
The dark path is being naive and getting divorced
Saying "toxic" is feminine bruh
You replying with this same comment multiple times is feminine bruh
@@razzle_dazzle why you so pressed about what other people are saying? That’s feminine as fuck.
@@brentguest3179 It's a meme from their last debate where Sneako said Destiny was like a woman for calling him toxic.
"Why is it bad to act like a sociopath?" - Sneako this entire conversation.
If it makes cash why not
@@calebgao6931 Why not? Because there is more to life then being a sociopath and making money. Because money isn't end all - be all. Because money just by itself won't make you happy?
@@CrnogorskiNacionalista yes it will don’t delude yourself money is the main source of happiness
@@808Castro main, yea. Only? No
@@mioom0w38 yes it is. Nothing else matters
I absolutely love you Destiny. Seriously bro its so cool how you talk to so many different people and how chill you are
I am really digging this Sneako and Destiny collaborations more and more.
Sneeko definitely comes off as someone who has a. main character disorder. The guy practically thinks no matter what he’s correct even though he actually does come off unhinged and delusional. Good luck to 20 woman can’t wait to hear how it all falls apart at the end
Stop psychoanalyzing 😂. He’s just a guy with no filter.
@@cydra_infinity1423 or he’s sumbody he lives in his own head and allows his chat to make a lot of the decisions he does on stream it literally showed yesterday when Aba literally not even an hour ago said he doesn’t wanna be on a panel with nick again and he goes sneako tryna get nick on the call because his chats keeps egging him on and calls aba a coward for leaving after just explaining why he doesn’t wanna be on a call with him again. If you can see a self destructive pattern idk what to tell u
Damn this is so tough to watch. The fact that destiny is so chill and has massive patience, while definitely respectable, is somewhat the most infuriating part.
Its by far the best way to handle someone like Sneako, you could see that he was grasping for arguments and twisting destiny's words so he could somehow still make some sense. He seems like he doesn't want to change his opinion on anything.
@@jandv3539 yeah precisely, which is why i kinda don’t really see the point in destiny engaging with him anymore
@@looy._. If he pushes too much or tries to PROPERLY shut him down with logic it would shit on his ego and that's the exact kind of person that you wouldn't want to do that with because then they could close up / become sarcastic / overall become unresponsive in the debate so it's the best option frankly
Watching the beginning of this, see how normal and kind we can be when we for a moment put our guards and issues with each other down and see each other in person rather than through a screen
37:15 "The Internet has given a voice to ppl who should just shut up"
Exactly, Sneako. 100% true. Case in fucking point.
The irony is that sneako is too inexperienced to recognize he sounds like a bot. He's a prime example why I'm happy I didn't have the internet growing up. I didnt start actually sounding smart until I was like 26 and even then it was still halfway retarded. Meanwhile my peers were steadily paying out mad amounts of alimony and falling under this red pill umbrella and mega incelled. This thinking isn't new. I do agree though alot of people shouldn't have the internet.
eh bad example
@@xendez It's literally the perfect exam[;e
@@capnhicks7186 he doesn't have mid life he makes 6figure a month mid people who make less than 6figure a year should shut up not criticize ambition driving people
@@triggeredlonda4317 this has absolutely nothing to do with my comment but does absolutely everything to prove the original commenters point
The more I listen to destiny, the more respect I have for him.
He might be the real Top G
I think it's good to talk to sneako because he's closer to our side than you all realize and having good relationships with right leaning people will keep them out of the arms of the far right.
Destiny fans are delusional
Honestly, i agree. The better the relationship between right wingers and left wingers the less power and influence the far right and far left will have, which will create better rooms for dialogs and better solutions to some problems
He already is far right. Did you even watch his discussion with Fuentes?
Our side is crazy. Cult behavior
@@alexd4566 - If you think THIS is "far right", then you're on the "far left". Simple as that.
See there two ways to converse: one is to know he achieved but mot believing thats way that he did, and other is to appreciate the way he did.
I enjoyed seeing this level of disagreement remain entertaining all throughout and not turn sour, petty, slow.
It makes me happy these two with dramatically different views can just have a conversation, genuinely enjoying this.
sure it does
Sneako has potential to evolve into something better. He's just young, shallow and materialistic. Equates wealth with success, happiness and intellect...He needs to live life, collect experiences and then depending on how he processes those he could turn out all right
A live streaming youtuber in miami isn't going to get any experience worthwhile. he's just going to be worse. He'll be just like the fresh n fit guys when he's 35. Surrounded by yes-men and opportunistic "influencer" women. That's the rest of his life.
But the problem is the more money he makes, doing what he's currently doing, he has no reason to change his mindset..
The money will re-affirm his thought process...