The first 45 seconds the point Destiny is pathetically trying to make and call racism. Bro take a look at every non white country around the world. Why is it only white countries that need to become less of what makes their country the nation that it is.
@@alwayshere69564Text you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show here
Hearing sneako say others are brainwashed is legitimately sad. Dude is lost. I have to edit, idk why this dude below me calling Sneako gay. Sneako has a girlfriend as far as I know and whatever else he does behind closed doors is his own business.
Lost is the word. He seems to just blow to whatever is the most contrarian for the sake of it. First he just repeated Tate, now he’s repeating Kanye… but Kanye is legit going through a mental episode but sneak can’t see that.
Haha I know. I honestly don't even know what answer he was hoping to get with this question, especially when he was just talking about loving Jews and not being antisemitic.
sneako has a resting troll face, i don't think he says anything with CONVICTION - he found a way to make money - it's working and he will stick with it and say whatever he needs to say - the only conviction he has is in the power of manipulation. like destiny said: he is just playing word games.
@@Quakez0r nah he goes silent for 2 seconds and brings up another topic. He doesn't really change his mind or at least doesn't concede verbally. For example, the latest Elon argument
@@Quakez0r No sneako shuts down every time he's pushed on harder questions then shifts the topic. Then goes back to parroting his dumb shit that was just debunked the moment he won't be pushed on it.
@@heinzarniaung2915 there’s a video where he reacts to his own video about him saying that when ever he’s wrong, he will double down and move on. That his ego will not allow him to be wrong and for him that works. He claims that him being confidently wrong, it makes people question there own thoughts. Sneako sees that as a win.
He's trying his hardest to act unbothered but you can tell he's starting to really feel the heat. Getting ostracized from your family has to be devastating and lonely. He knows deep down that Nick will never see him as an equal and thus can't really call him a true friend. Destiny is really the only person in the world who gives Sneako the time of day.
Sneako has other friends that are legit, but I agree, NICK is NOT one of them. I'm a Sneako fan but was Quite Happy to see him get schooled by Destiny over Ye+Nick Fuentes' Anti-Semitism screeds. I hope Sneak is beginning to understand what a dumb dumb move it is to back that evil rhetoric and belief system. Sounds like he's getting it. Props to Destiny for setting him straight. The drink champs interview was what cost Ye his adidas $$. Sneako, is star struck by Ye and he needs more tough love about that, Anti-semitism can totally ruin his young career.
@@McCluski First off you don’t know Nick or Ye, for that matter, or their relationship with Sneeko. 2nd saying “anti semitism” will totally ruin his career kinda proves the point, doesn’t it? And Whether it ‘ruins his career’ doesn’t whether it’s true or not matter? Crazy
Sneako is like a lot of people I went to high school with unfortunately. Deeply misinformed, yet passionately convinced they’ve found the secrets of the Illuminati
Sneako's brain melted a little when Destiny threw that statement on how Nick Fuentes hates identity politics back in his face. Yes, promoting a race, religion, and national identity over all others is identity politics. Even my son had a WTF moment listening to Bernie Sanders when he too proclaimed he hated identity politics, but then went on to talk about how he was the voice for white, working class men.
Conspirscy theorists: Look on TH-cam, that's where you can find the truth Anyone with a brain: So the illuminati controls everything except for google/TH-cam, one of the biggest corps of all time? Weird
@@sobbos8975 there's no money in the grift, so no, he seriously doesn't get it. There's no secret $$ source that fills his coffers because he allows anti-semites and nazis in his chat.
@@sobbos8975 No he is not smarter than this. You can very clearly tell that he learnt how to repeat his arguments rather than reflect and understand them. Destiny, as obnoxious as he tends to be, actually does. Which is why it sounds like a teen arguing an adult.
It always baffles me when people like Sneako gravitate to people like Fuentes when Sneako, is in fact, the type of person Fuentes would kick out of the country, lol.
The only reason that nick nazi guy has kanye and sneako around him is for their followers the fact that people don't understand how messed up nazi nick is baffles me
Sneako is a case study in what happens with echo chambers. So odd to see the kid doing all of this "facts over feelings" stuff while constantly complaining about the "woke mob". I figured that eventually he would come around to how childish he is acting, but not so sure anymore. The kid is just lost, and that kinda sucks, but it's the bed he's made.
Yeah. It really feels like he's never gotten past that mid 2000's woke high schooler mentality. Got the whole world figured out. It's everyone else who's crazy, not him. Just annoying to watch how triggered he gets and then turns around and calls everyone else triggered. Guy can't think for himself but criticizes everyone else. I'd call him a hypocrite but that doesn't quite fit. He's just delusional.
he's not in an echo chamber though, for example he's literally talking to Destiny who pushes back super hard on all his ideologies. Some people go through life never achieving the capability of critical thinking and SNEAKO is clearly one of those people
Everyone lost is an opportunity to those needing to push narratives. Just a new bullhorn for those trying to tear apart our Country from the inside out.
If Destiny could be accused of fucking any orbiter, it would have to be Sneako with the amount of charity he gives this guy. Mans literally says he can't conceive of ever being wrong on anything and he's still giving him the benefit of doubt.
Alienating Sneako would lead him down an even worse path imo. Destiny's one of the only people in Sneako's orbit that's actually trying to pull him away from all this conspiracy theory bullshit.
@@SubtleHawk there's this other up and coming streamer named Not So Erudite doing the same thing. Only it's with leading him away from red pill and black pill stuff.
I love how fast destiny's brain works. If I was in a debate I literally would be very slow and have no idea what to say - but destiny is just like SNAP SNAP SNAP with amazing points.
It would be more impressive if he wasn't wrong all the time. 16:40 Destiny literally lists Germany as a country which didn't have its borders changed after the second world war... you know that time they got split into two countries and the Soviets' absorbed Kaliningrad.
@@link10909 Meh it's good to exaggerate against bad faith people. Sneako isn't bad faith but he has an ego, he won't change if you run over the detailed points with him. He just doesn't look at the data. If a person that doesn't research but just shows up with talking points to the debate, you bring random numbers at him and show him that he hasn't researched. They'll be too lazy to do it and just drop the point.
I've only seen Sneako a few times, but even so hearing him say "I don't get triggered often" made me chuckle. Dude is always triggered every time I've seen him.
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen an Internet personality with as stronger case of projection than Sneako. I don’t even think he reads summaries of books. Everything he says is downstream of something someone else said
Agreed. Anytime I see sneako get really challenged, he instantly flies into “people like you” rants, instead of just addressing a point. “Sneako do you really think Kanye is right about Judaism?” Sneako: “here we go, people like you ALWAYS ask this to hurt me, and have secret plots to end my CAREER ( 😭 😢 )”
It's a shame. Whenever he makes a statement and gets pushback he just readjusts his statement and plows forward instead of acknowledging the fact that his statements/opinions are not based in facts. The problem with conspiracies is that so many people eventually fall in love with this “easy” explanation for all the chaos in the world and refuse to accept that there’s a whole lot more nuisance to everything. There are a few conspiracies that have turned out to be true, but there's a far greater number, the vast majority, that are just major oversimplification of a very complex issue.
I think the problem is that he doesn't get that anything/everything can be spun as a bizarre conspiracy and he just has a hard time coping with that. Sometimes I think that conspiratorial thinking is just a developmental phase that some people get stuck in.
Sneako: "I do research all the time, I've heard every point of view." Destiny: "Have you looked into the numbers?" Sneako: "How can you trust historians/experts/academia?"
Thank you August for the ending of that video from Sneako's stream. Seeing actual Reflection from Sneako and banning that chatter was the Christmas miracle I needed to see today. 10/10 Destiny content.
Bro, a huge detail was missing. The clips on the subreddit. The chat was not only spamming "i love hitler" but also things like "faggot" and general sympathy for hitler. Also, after sneako said "i know theres jews in chat, press 1 if youre a jew" and nobody pressed 1 in chat 😂
@@maxsimes So the "1 in chat if you're jewish" is actually hilarious just to highlight the crazy bubble Sneako's in with Rumble... The other part about spamming racist and sexist shit, meh we can't expect a full 180 in 1 convo(As Stephen always preaches). :)
@@maxsimes Sneakos audience consists of a lot of 14 year old edge lords that find that shit hilarious. They do it for attention because in real life these kids are invisable to the rest of the world.
@@maxsimes I hate when people say mean word :( how dare they? Umm it's 2022 don't you know my corporate overlords have banned these words? Freaking "r words"!!!!
Saw this live. I wish Destiny would hold Sneako to concessions more. He doesn't argue in good faith. He's just a zoomer brand of intellectual dishonesty
It's more abt "owns" than anything. If he gets to the point where most people would concede, he quickly brings up another topic or whataboutisms his way out of it.
@@nighthawk2548 I think pushing him further on one point would have ended the convo sooner, you could just leave that to sink in with him and his audiance and tally up more non answers, like the thing he said about all the boarders around the world changing after ww2
@@reignmack That’s assuming that anything Destiny says will “sink in” with Sneako or his audience. I don’t think Sneako is concerned about facts anymore. All his dialogue screams intellectual dishonesty, dude is hard headed
Yeah, you can see it in how he constantly pressures people with rapid one-word questions as a response. He's hoping that the other person hasn't thought their positions through, or that they can't talk as fast as him.
If only he understood he is a sheep of Fuentes, he is so much more controlled than a regular 9-5 wojak. People like Fuentes orders Sneako what to believe and what not to and he follows the command blindly
@@DrLinden honestly. I will always be grateful that I pushed myself to read and understand Mein Kampf and Atlas Shrugged. It made me understand why I disapprove of both their ideologies and their authors at a deeper level
Sneako has these conversations with destiny and likes to think that means he keeps an open mind, yet never changes his mind on anything despite overwhelming evidence.
I've noticed that myself and it's very frustrating to watch lol. He's so intellectually dishonest because he still lives in his cocoon of him always being right.
@@mariagalleriaxi8632 Why on earth would you type this out instead of explaining why you believe senako is a "disingenuous asshole"? Probably because you can't justify your beliefs which is probably because your beliefs like a lot of video essayists are not organic, they were given to you by a person a lot smarter than you.
I honestly don't understand why Destiny and others says Fuentes is well spoken, English is my second language so I do have to pay attention to the words and conversation, a native speaker can do it in autopilot but I have to do it "manually" and engage more in every sentence, question and reply and everytime I heard Fuentes arguing he just keep jumping and exiting for the tangent when confront with questions, evidence or facts, he pivotes all over the place and I don't understand why Destiny don't call him out every 3 words, is soooo clear but then everyone Acts like he is smart... like sure I guess it takes skills couple with no shame debating like him, but his behavior is Cristal clear. If you ask Nick Fuentes what's is favorite color he would probably give you 50% Nazi talking points, 25% why blue sucks and 25% a non-answer like "color is not real and we can never know if the color we like is the color we see, but definitely dark colors are not of his liking "
Sneako gives me strong Catch Me If You Can vibes, when Frank calls the FBI agent on Christmas eve, and the agent says "You didn't call just to apologize did you? You have no one else to call!"
Cuz no matter how many times Destiny says he is a really good reader of people and claims Nick Fuentes, Leako, Lav and Fit are "smart" he's absolutely wrong and a terrible read of people.
Sometimes I wonder how the chemical soup that is our biochemistry can work to form intelligent creatures, then I see people like Sneako and remember that some chemical soups are better than others.
It’s crazy that these guys are always “just asking questions” but never seem capable of finding answers. There is mounds of literature on how the holocaust is calculated, does Sneako agree, does he disagree? Who knows, he’s never advanced past asking the question
@@TonyCox1351 I think it’s because REAL science requires the ability to seek challenges to their ideas, and to really be open & accepting to disconfirming evidence. The ‘just asking’ crowd does NOT genuinely seek disconfirming evidence openly & acceptingly.
I think that since sneako has lost so many people in his life due to his downhill spiral he’s decided to dive even deeper into bad influences around him
Sneako is a prime example of someone who’s successful convinced himself that any kind of pushback to his ideas is bot behavior or woke bs. Even during the conversation he admits to destiny that he can’t even fathom being wrong about something. A victim of his own narcissism and success
This is the red pill problem. Not red pill related but in general. The whole 'hardcore, truth that they dont wanna tell you, man!!'. They basically just swing from one side of the pendulum to the other, explore ideas, adopt them, and then anyone who doesnt buy into them is mindless.. Its like watching the maturation of a child that is 4 years ahead of its sibling, giving shit to the younger sibling for being ignorant.
That last bit about "just asking questions" really did it. The last like 60 seconds was worth the entire video. Clearly hiding behind question marks, and not willing to admit it.
@haz bro😭😭😭you just made my day man wth thank you so much!!! But yeah bro been watching destiny for a few months straight now and Sneako for years (dude is an idiot) lol!!!
@@imanigordon6803 He was a curious video maker with hard questions in all kinds of directions, now he's a full blown "Oh no chemtrails are killing us" nutjob.
"People who want to control me and people who want more money do not have the best interest of the population in mind, they want to keep us controlled and keep us as pawns" A Tate Pawn, a Ye Pawn, and a Fuentes Pawn walk into a bar... Sneako asks for a glass of water and calls the kettle black.
@@thoughtfulalbatros9683 You just did the same thing I am criticizing Sneako for doing. Let me lay it out since you missed it. Sneako's direct quote alleges that "people who want more money do not have the best interest of the population in mind" and that their aim is to "keep us as pawns" My claim is that Sneako's in engaged in this behavior himself. He wants to make more money. He does so by parroting talking points promoted by Tate, Ye and Fuentes uncritically without being able to defend them. He cannot have the best interest of the population in mind when selling an ideology and life style that he admits cannot be attained my a majority of people. Those who cannot attain a life as a "high value man" are kept in his circle for him to enrich himself. This argument is a syllogism where I take the premise given by Sneako as the main premise and use his behavior as a secondary premise to conclude that he is a hypocrite. Now, you say there was "no substance," and an "attack without reasoning." This is itself a claim with no substance, no reference and no reasoning. So you have made a critique of a behavior that you yourself are engaged in, which is in my opinion, classic bot behavior.
@@BuskerShanties yehman, I’m a hypocrite… and was working and shouldn’t have been commenting at all 😂 I don’t disagree tbf, he’s in for the 💵 same Destiny and all the other YT’rs. The difference is they don’t have any power You’re comparing him to people with actual real world clout, not bullshit YT clout, so your syllogism - great word 👌🏻 - is actually a straw man argument
@@thoughtfulalbatros9683 I did not compare him to anyone and I did not claim that he has any power. You did the thing again. Good job. You seem to have a knack for it. Glad you agree though. I hope your work is more interesting than Sneako is now.
Destiny is really trying to save Sneako’s soul. He’s actually treating him like a toddler. Steven really seems to legitimately like Sneako. Now he’s seeing him fall down a crazy ass rabbit hole and realizing he can no longer reach him.
Sneako is visibly mentally ill the way I see it and I would want to help him too. I don't think he's aware of what he's doing unlike a lot of others in the far-right that know their message, that it's wrong and when they are lying or obfuscating to be more effective but ultimately don't care.
I think what most people are missing about Sneako is the fact, his entire career and entity is resting on creating this persona. You can tell there's a bit of a sadness there, his family is disavowing him, he constantly is shown saying things like, "My entire chat is full of W hitler and just..." He's walking down a bad path, and I think he knows it, but he's making the kind've money to where if he jumped off it, he could lose everything. I think Destiny was spot on with his comments about not being able to displease his audience. I do believe he held some of his beliefs in actuality but after a certain point he just needed to tow the line. He doesn't have the ability to speak to the left anymore th, look at all the leftists who -hate- him, they'll just crap all over him no matter what. He has the right or...nobody. He -needs- to keep on his path or it'll take him back to being broke, and that fact is really scary.
Its the entire plot of all these right wing "Pick Me's". They have lost their family and friends and are in too deep with their current social contacts that thet would end up alone if they changed their talking points.
Destiny’s friendship with Sneako has always been so strange to me. Sneako is constantly saying ridiculous things but Destiny always treats him with kid gloves. It reminds me of how he was with Lav but it’s worse with Sneako because he says so many inflammatory things. Contrast that with how he acts toward people on the left and it’s just strange. He’ll rage about any inflammatory or incorrect thing a lefty says but he just says “oh okay” or “well I saw his old content and he’s a smart kid” when it’s a person like Sneako.
@SacredCASHcow this is it. Destiny is seeing if he can do the impossible - shift someone deep in conspiracy world, who is smart, but lost, out. I'm watching it as a case study to see what works to try and help some other lost souls I'm sad to see fall into conspiracy world.
You don't handle a child the same way you would someone who should know better. It pisses me off infinitely more when supposedly intelligent people bend truth to lie than when young people are just trolling. Ignorance vs. Intentionality.
It's not strange at all. Sneako remains good faith. Destiny returns good faith with good faith. If you start pounding people, they don't go away, they just become bad faith.
Sneako: I'm not antisemitic Sneako: *Proceeds to give every antisemitic talking point under the sun* The fact people see this guy as a thought leader makes me lose so much faith in humanity.
The sad part is, every racist is like that. They like to think they don't hate for simple things such as skin color or religion but more scientific things such as theory
They won the battle but we will win the war. It is really about the long game. What we really need are ways to turn good people like Sneako immune to these mind viruses and this is a good opportunity for us to practice.
To any Sneako fans watching with the question on the numbers of the holocausts id urge you to read/watch/listen about the "holocausts by Bullet" which was the large scale killing of Jews in conquered Russian territory in the wake of Operation Barbarossa. The thing you learn is just how close these killings where actually tracked down to the number of people per village shot and how many bullets where used some truly horrifying stories in the material relating to it. btw this was all happening well before the death camps where in full operation scary shit
@@gotworc ya 100% correct but the reason that people even say that number is because there is a INSANE amount bookkeeping that the Nazi's did to both cataloge progress and in many ways find better way to exterminate people they wanted gone which is scary on a whole other level ya Sneako is def Talking like these are Battle stats from Ancient Rome which is silly as fuck
My grandma was a polish Jew who my Canadian veteran grandfather saved and brought to Canada. The stories I heard about the terrors of the Holocaust. The way it affected my grandfather when he came back. He became a major alcoholic and never spoke about the war.
I think this is a pretty cool thing you are doing, publicly refuting morons and making them look like fools is how we can eventually make people understand each other better.
@@elronelron812 we'll never know how that conversation played out, many of us know what its like to have a relative aiming down hard. Sometimes all you can do is limit people's ability to take you down with them.
@@elronelron812 Loving hitler is evil. Excluding someone who loves Hitler is not evil. Excluding someone who chooses to associate with Hitler lovers, is not evil. The politics don't matter, that's just insane
The fall from grace from Sneako is crazy lmfaooo, went from being someone with decent ideas to a pseudo-intellectual that argues in bad faith constantly
@@Silverwidows he’s getting a bag, but not the bag he would get if he didn’t choose sides and double down on his takes. The proof is when destiny asks him certain questions sneako avoids them or says “I didn’t say that.” But he most definitely implies it. Good luck being a model again or being sponsored from a big company. The dude has limited his monetizing arsenal.
Including that last clip is so telling, and encouraging. Sneako is trying to act confident, but you can tell the harder-hitting points (like, "you can just google where the 6M numbers come from, so not doing that is sus") are getting through to him, even if he doesn't explicitly realize it. He's feeling uncertainty and it's cracking his facade of confidence, and wants validation from his chat to prop him up.
No one claimed it is 6 million "No more no less." Research showed that it is no less but quite possibly more than that number. In recent years there were many additional smaller camps found that people didn't know about. The fact that he presents "counting corpses" as the source for the number of victims shows that he has done ZERO research on the holocaust and how we know anything we know about it.
I think Destiny is making a really salient point there at the end: if Sneako actually cared to know the answer, he would know it. Even if he wanted to dispute the methods of inquiry, that would require him to _know_ and _understand_ them. The truth is that he doesn’t care, and that is what makes him a bad person.
I actually did the 5 minute Google search about how the Holocaust estimates were arrived at. There's a wealth of information available, including a whole bunch of primary German sources that the Nazis didn't destroy. It's very telling that Sneako is so sure nobody can know, yet he doesn't know why people believe they do know.
That was my first thought when he kept saying that question. I was like, why aren't you looking up how they arrived at that number. They didn't pull it out of hat, also it's not exactly 6 million on the dot. I was so happy when Destiny finally got to the point as to why he really doesn't care.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep reaching out to the manosphere and engaging in dialgue. I think it will give their influencers some perspective they can then pass onto their audience... great work
honestly man, I'm not a Destiny fan, (and I'm growing farther away from Hasan) but mother of God I would never wanna debate him. Dude really slams logic home, over and over. The period from about maybe 6:00 to 6:20 was wild, watching Sneako being confronted and having to really think about things. I really think Sneako needs people like Destiny in his life. I used to hate this dude, (Sneako) but it's refreshing to see a back and forth that wasn't malicious, like this. It just reinforces that we are indeed human at the end of the day, but the way we approach each other is so goddamn skewed now, because of years of social media exchanges and this binary "us v them" approach for everything.
@@uhreee6392 Probably for more personal reasons than I'd like to be on the internet at this point. Nothing against your question. TH-cam isn't where I'd have this conversation.
Reading the statement itself is just funny. He's extremely passionate, just misguided. He'll definitely come around eventually, he's the kind to do that.
When Sneako was saying his views are challenged daily he forgot to mention that his views are challenged only for monetization. He’s obviously not reading actual articles or papers, just listening to people talk on his streams and comments. And yet he thinks he’s super informed. Sad.
and "challenged" is a funny way of saying "people disagree with me but I don't care what other people say and I'll continue to have them in the face of overwhelming evidence."
And it was all just a year ago too. Sneako's videos were some of the best in terms of editing and content. I hate to see him go down this route because I remember the content, vision and creativity that got him to that his point of success. In ways, it is pretty similar to Kanye's rise and fall.
What happened to Sneako is that he is at that age where you know enough of the world to think you understand the way the world works but not enough to know that there's so much you don't know. Remember, Sneako is 24! At 24, I had the same level of conviction. My saving grace was that there was no social media
I never in my life had that level of conviction. Can we stop treating age as a proxy for maturity? Trump is a 77 year old toddler and Severn Suzuki spoke to the UN about climate change at 13.
@@SoloDallasII Sure There are always exceptions but in general, Older people tend to be more mature in behaviour than younger people. So it's shouldn't be surprising when a 24 year old is acting immature. He was a teenager, 5 years ago. That's my point. So In general, Age is a good proxy for maturity up to a certain point
@@SoloDallasII Thank you. I'm sick of people thinking age is an excuse. You don't need experience to realize it's absolutely asinine for you to not even entertain the idea that you might be wrong about ANYTHING. Also, a 24- year-old guy is not a child ffs.
I have never met another 24 year old nearly as maliciously ignorant as he is. This isn't an age thing. This is a matter of being scum that sustained some type of severe concussion.
sneako is like a lot of the kids i go to school with. They hear something new for the first time and instead of doing further research they just fully believe it based on practically nothing. I do like that he remains open enough to new ideas because no one changes their mind instantly and I feel he still is capable of changing his mind even though he said that he doesn't think that he can be wrong
IMO this is the biggest problem with censoring these ideas. Because they are absolutely wrong, and the evidence is there, but they hear something new and there's not actually that much information out there countering it. So they feel like they've found something NEW and hidden and perhaps some secrete knowledge. It makes you feel like you know something other people don't know. So then it can be really really hard to pull someone off this secret knowledge they believe they've found.
Everyone does this. Destiny trusts historians explanation for the h0l0c@ust despite the incentives. Which on incentives, why on earth would you use defer to expert opinion here? It's like asking an Apple executive (an expert) what the best phone is. If he answers the wrong way it's career suicide. You can take his explanation but his position should not add any credence to his opinion.
@@jeffwells641 Except this example proves the opposite. That people are taking in information uncritically without actually looking into the available information. It's not that historians haven't provided an explanation; it's that people are primed into believing information so long as it aligns with their pre-conceived biases and prejudices. This is why they'll use meaningless words like "bot" or "bot historians": to discredit anyone they disagree with. If you want to formulate a conclusion, it would be the opposite: you should censor disinformation to stop people from falling down those rabbit holes, because they're not willing to let their perspectives be changed by available historical facts. You claim that it's the censoring that's preventing us from debunking these ideas; when it's actually the non-censoring that is allowing the proliferation of these ideas, regardless of whether they've already been countered or not (and they have been). >So they feel like they've found something NEW and hidden and perhaps some secrete knowledge. Yes. Because they don't censor it enough, and some people (teenagers in particular) are highly driven by contrarianism. Contrarianism is an anti-intellectual philosophy.
@@he.5865 Since when do historians act as a monolith that aligns with the interests of a particular narrative? Yet another conspiracy theory. An Apple employee works for Apple. An historian works for.... the Big History sector? What's your point?
@@feelthebern3783 OH CRAP THE ANALOGY ISN'T ACTUALLY JUST ME SAYING THE SAME THING TWICE?!? No you fking brainlet incentives can come from different places and still be incentives. People generally act in their own interests. Agreed? You can't not agree with that. Now, here's something you must also agree with, IT IS NOT IN A GIVEN HISTORIAN'S INTERESTS TO GIVE ANY CREDIBILITY TO ANY HOLOCAUST EXAGGERATION CLAIMS. You can't disagree with that right? Therefore historians would obviously be pressured to not support holocaust exaggeration claims. Respond to each point, do not make up an imaginary argument.
They did track the deaths, they wrote them off as natural causes; they may have destroyed documents, but you can still estimate the amount of people by the delivery record of trains and how many people can fit in one box car.
Saying it’s anti semitic for asking questions about numbers is like saying you’re transphobic for asking how many pro nouns there are now. Or trans phobic for asking questions about trans women winning woman of the year and winning every women’s sporting event they compete in.
When you aren't looking for an answer and are doing it to make someone look bad. It is. Google search it if you are genuinely curious. It will take you at most 30 minutes if you want some additional context.
I like Sneako, and think he’s entertaining and funny. I really hope he keeps talking to Destiny. Destiny does a masterful job here of pointing out holes in Sneako’s logic, and warning him about going down a dark path… without simply attacking him (like is so common today). Shoutout Destiny.
Sneako may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but do you think that he takes the warnings seriously? And is he acting in good faith or is he still just a shock value fiend?
At some point, the act of questioning tags out with unrelenting contrarianism. "How did historians determine the death count?" is a question "It's impossible to know," is not a question
30:30 The problem is that Sneako isn’t “just asking questions.” He is also making statements. If all Sneako did was ask questions he would be fine. But he doesn’t do that
Sneako doesn't want to ask questions. Sneako wants to find answers. And he knows what kind of answers he wants to find, because he'll deem any information he doesn't like as "bot" or "part of the matrix".
Its a sad world we live in when people brag about meeting people like Ye or Tate or any public figure. Why are these experiences milestones in these peoples lives??
I guess my question to sneako would be is this all really worth it? Saying how your parents practically don’t want you around and how you’re being cast out as a crazy lunatic with these extreme ideas, does this fulfill you? Like I’m just confused as to the end goal he’s burning every relationship he has all for exposing this “matrix” we live in
Sneako is gonna look at all the criticism as validation that he’s right. Because to him if you aren’t being persecuted then you’re doing something wrong. His perception of reality is truly backwards and he’s probably undiagnosed with…… something.
@@TonyCox1351 yes everyone one of you have said that! "historians write history" inplicates that todays understanding of History is right because "duh, objective historians wrote it, its their profession" And dont Tell me thats Not implicated when yall write that as a counter to "the winner writes history". And if you after I pressured Tell me thats Not what you want to implicate, okay, then why even write that then? And all youre lefty friends are still around and for them its true.
I cannot honestly tell if Sneaking really believes this stuff or knew he could get bigger being controversial and edgy and then started believing his own shit and echo chambering himself. I just feel sorry for him.
He most likely believes it because of who’s saying it. It’s well documented that Ye is Sneako’s idol, and as most people do, refused to accept wrong in their idols. I would believe Nick to be a bit more malicious in using Ye as a platform, but Sneako is definitely in the mindset of your average kpop twitter stan if they were able to network and work directly with their favourite artist.
It's impossible to discuss and play at the same time. Factorio is his mind working, no one knows whether its D playing or Factorio discussing thru his body.
Man this was actually kinda wholesome ngl. I've never seen anyone else talk to Sneako and actually get him to think without just devolving into a total yelling match.
And this is why free speech is important I don’t agree with either of them on anything but its good they talk openly - and they should be able to be more open to dig deeper. Hopefully some seeds have been planted for Sneako to consider Destiny isn’t right on everything but I don’t think Sneak is on his level enough to plant seeds yet - not a dig tbf, he’s just younger and needs more experience. His lack of trust in governments is his strongest trait and he should trust his gut
Or the obvious issue of "how do they know it's 6 million" ....... Wellllll there was six million people that were like around, and now they aren't around anymore lol. And they weren't given uniforms to go fight in the war sooooooo. It's not like these are 6 million things in a closet somewhere nobody saw and suddenly aren't there. These are six million people that had family and friends and years later didn't exist anymore lol. That's a big fucking way they know, these aren't numbers on a sheet they are people. If someone's asking "what happened to Doug?" 6 million times yeh..... Pretty clear what happened to six million
@@Jackhanmma7099 Taxes and conscription into military. If I were a powerful nation state that wanted to bonk my neighbors to take back Alsace and Lorraine it would be a pretty good idea to know how much money I can make and bodies I can throw.
I think you gave him something that shook his narrative. The problem is he's still surrounded by anti-semetic chatter, so he might be able to not think on why he felt uncomfortable.
16:24 You know, I am from Eastern Europe and hearing Sneako say how it is suspicious that "all of Europe was remapped after WW2" makes me fucking lose my shit. So many of these American (or just anglo-centric) pundits know jack shit about the world and the countries within it. They can't fucking imagine that other countries outside of the US have any sort of motivations. For instance, Romania and Hungary's borders changed a lot during and after WW2. Because they both wanted territory where there was a large percentage of ethnic Romanians or Hungarians living within these territories. Hungary wanted Transylvania back (which it lost after WW1) and Romania wanted Bessarabia, which is the territory of the country of Moldova today. Of course, I wouldn't blame an average American for not knowing this. These are rather small countries in comparison, and it's not like I am very knowledgeable about what's going on in some of the smaller US states, like Wyoming. But for Sneako to completely brush aside the fact that there might have been reasons for borders changing, is some of the most stereotypical American ignorance, that is straight out of a comedy sketch. But since it's real life, it's fucking frustrating. I seriously don't know how Destiny has so much patience. He has been SO charitable to people like Sneako, it's insane. I am not saying he shouldn't do it, he probably has good reasons to believe that his method might just succeed. But if he at any point snaps, I wouldn't blame him either.
I don't think it's intentional, but Sneako has learned to be more slithery during these conversations. The way he AGRESSIVELY shifts subjects when he realizes he's pinned by a question is the serpent-like behavior of the extremists that he sometimes spends time with.
How is that not intentional? He's done it as long as I've seen him on here arguing with Destiny. Dude is just as bad faith as Nick is and all the people Destiny is mad about doing the same thing on the left.
@@delam617 what I mean is, I don't think it's part of any rhetorical strategy. I think he is subconsciously starting to speak like people he spends time with, and is incentivized by the feeling of being "less wrong" if he evades hard questions.
The thing is, even if you were to grant everything neo-nazis say (no, the original nazis never denied the holocaust, and they were NOT coerced in ANY WAY into confessing either),, yuo can still say it was an intentional genocide.
Omg the way Sneako just doesn't ask further questions. At 16:20 when he says "near the end of the war Nazis attempted to destroy documentation..." What does that mean "attempted?" It sounds like someone has evidence of partial documents or tampering. There's probably a good book or paper out there about this stuff. And he doesn't even care.
9:02 Destiny: "Do you ever think about being wrong on everything/anything?" Sneako: "No, like what?" ... 12:56 Sneako: "I challenge my beliefs consistently" Do you tho? If you don't think you could be wrong how can you 'honestly' challenge your beliefs?
Sneako Gets Into A Huge Fight w/ Destiny On Christmas ►th-cam.com/video/HRz_6YUU6Sg/w-d-xo.html
‼️
Ye is only running for president so gov looks into his financials? He's said that
Low iq statistics are indeed facts, Destiny is completely wrong
The first 45 seconds the point Destiny is pathetically trying to make and call racism. Bro take a look at every non white country around the world. Why is it only white countries that need to become less of what makes their country the nation that it is.
@@alwayshere69564Text you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show hereText you copy will automatically show here
Hearing sneako say others are brainwashed is legitimately sad. Dude is lost.
I have to edit, idk why this dude below me calling Sneako gay. Sneako has a girlfriend as far as I know and whatever else he does behind closed doors is his own business.
Same guy after being wrong so much
Lost is the word. He seems to just blow to whatever is the most contrarian for the sake of it. First he just repeated Tate, now he’s repeating Kanye… but Kanye is legit going through a mental episode but sneak can’t see that.
He's not wrong, he just doesn't see it happening to himself.
0 self awareness
@@burkimsher420Sneako isn’t gay
"There's nobody been that vocal about Jews since Hitler"
Well with a record like that...
Haha I know. I honestly don't even know what answer he was hoping to get with this question, especially when he was just talking about loving Jews and not being antisemitic.
I know how about the people of Palestine getting killed by jews?
“Barely anyone advocates for slavery since the confederacy!”
Sneako really set the bar on the ground with that one.
yeah that shit was crazy 💀
Sneako: I believe in challenging my beliefs
Also sneako: refuses to engage genuinely when softly critiqued
would he rather have 90 atheists come to the US or 90 black christianas from africa
@@dieauferstehung nick Fuentes? Or sneako
@@dieauferstehung I believe he's mentioned being part African, Cuban and Filipino.... so who knows?
Where did he refuse to engage? He seemed pretty conversational even about the topics that could get him out on a no fly list
Yet he debates all the time.
It never ceases to amaze how Sneako can be so wrong but say it with so much conviction
He’s in his early 20s, does that surprise you?
sneako has a resting troll face, i don't think he says anything with CONVICTION - he found a way to make money - it's working and he will stick with it and say whatever he needs to say - the only conviction he has is in the power of manipulation. like destiny said: he is just playing word games.
The unearned confidence over so much insecurity is just…. EXHAUSTING.
it’s a real talent
@@adultishgambino1 I've only known a couple people in their 20s that are like him, they're not usually that bad.
The fact Sneako doesn’t even accept that he could potentially be wrong about ANYTHING, is pretty telling
I think he does, hence why he kept asking Destiny to clarify his points further. He just disagrees.
@@Quakez0r nah he goes silent for 2 seconds and brings up another topic. He doesn't really change his mind or at least doesn't concede verbally. For example, the latest Elon argument
@@Quakez0rhe straight up said he can’t be wrong about any of his beliefs.
@@Quakez0r No sneako shuts down every time he's pushed on harder questions then shifts the topic. Then goes back to parroting his dumb shit that was just debunked the moment he won't be pushed on it.
@@heinzarniaung2915 there’s a video where he reacts to his own video about him saying that when ever he’s wrong, he will double down and move on. That his ego will not allow him to be wrong and for him that works. He claims that him being confidently wrong, it makes people question there own thoughts. Sneako sees that as a win.
He's trying his hardest to act unbothered but you can tell he's starting to really feel the heat. Getting ostracized from your family has to be devastating and lonely. He knows deep down that Nick will never see him as an equal and thus can't really call him a true friend. Destiny is really the only person in the world who gives Sneako the time of day.
It's all ego
Apparently not even his family rejecting him on Christmas is enough to make him question the path he's traveling down. Dude's a lost cause
Sneako has other friends that are legit, but I agree, NICK is NOT one of them. I'm a Sneako fan but was Quite Happy to see him get schooled by Destiny over Ye+Nick Fuentes' Anti-Semitism screeds. I hope Sneak is beginning to understand what a dumb dumb move it is to back that evil rhetoric and belief system. Sounds like he's getting it. Props to Destiny for setting him straight. The drink champs interview was what cost Ye his adidas $$.
Sneako, is star struck by Ye and he needs more tough love about that, Anti-semitism can totally ruin his young career.
You don't even know him lol.
@@McCluski First off you don’t know Nick or Ye, for that matter, or their relationship with Sneeko. 2nd saying “anti semitism” will totally ruin his career kinda proves the point, doesn’t it? And Whether it ‘ruins his career’ doesn’t whether it’s true or not matter? Crazy
my brain can't understand how sneako was somehow more englightened and intelligient as a teenager than he is an adult.
Adults are smarter than teenagers. If you think he was smart as a teenager but can't understand him now it's probably because you're too stupid.
@huberttheiqlord8830 dude so many nazis were so crazy smart we decided they couldn't end up in soviet hands
@Hubert Le Pew And just like Sneako, you fell right into it.
@@iammunhu he fell right into the trap of not supporting animal cruelty? Lmao
@@brandonsobremisana6681 damn some chicken nuggets sound pretty good right now
Sneako is like a lot of people I went to high school with unfortunately. Deeply misinformed, yet passionately convinced they’ve found the secrets of the Illuminati
Facts. sadly a lot of those people never really grow up
The illuminati is real, founded by adam weishapt in Germany 1776
Sneako's brain melted a little when Destiny threw that statement on how Nick Fuentes hates identity politics back in his face. Yes, promoting a race, religion, and national identity over all others is identity politics.
Even my son had a WTF moment listening to Bernie Sanders when he too proclaimed he hated identity politics, but then went on to talk about how he was the voice for white, working class men.
Conspirscy theorists: Look on TH-cam, that's where you can find the truth
Anyone with a brain: So the illuminati controls everything except for google/TH-cam, one of the biggest corps of all time? Weird
but who determines what's misinformation you take these points as facts like a bot
the level of patience that Destiny displays on these conversations is otherworldly
Not really 😂
You act like you would do anything calm down tough guy 😂
@@djzip9231 how? you can tell he's being patient
i mean both parties were patient
Should be studied! I’d buy a book or a fucking course 😂
Its kinda wholesome how they disagree so much and yet Sneako still comes back to chat.
Think that list of people willing to is shrinking fast.
i agree
@@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher to be fair sneako never learns if he didn’t get deplatformed I think destiny would have gotten bored.
Funny how destiny won't do that with Nick
Yeah its SO wholesome and not at all to do with making money
Sneako not realizing why people are distancing themselves from him is truly sad beyond words. He has zero self awareness
I don’t think he doesn’t get it. I think Sneako is smarter than this but the grift is easier imo
There's plenty of people doing the opposite of that and you're just taking him at his word.
@@sobbos8975 there's no money in the grift, so no, he seriously doesn't get it. There's no secret $$ source that fills his coffers because he allows anti-semites and nazis in his chat.
@@sobbos8975 No he is not smarter than this. You can very clearly tell that he learnt how to repeat his arguments rather than reflect and understand them. Destiny, as obnoxious as he tends to be, actually does. Which is why it sounds like a teen arguing an adult.
destiny only told him 30 times
Sneako: "I'm not antisemitic!"
Sneako 10 seconds later: "Jews want to control the narrative so they can have the ultimate power"
It always baffles me when people like Sneako gravitate to people like Fuentes when Sneako, is in fact, the type of person Fuentes would kick out of the country, lol.
normally they can’t see it till it actually effects them
The only reason that nick nazi guy has kanye and sneako around him is for their followers the fact that people don't understand how messed up nazi nick is baffles me
Fuentes is the type of person Fuentes would kick out of the country
@@karlhawkins5164 lmfao truuuu
@@karlhawkins5164 The sad thing is that it is inevitable. They always think they can be one of the good ones. It's a slippery slope
Sneako is a case study in what happens with echo chambers. So odd to see the kid doing all of this "facts over feelings" stuff while constantly complaining about the "woke mob". I figured that eventually he would come around to how childish he is acting, but not so sure anymore. The kid is just lost, and that kinda sucks, but it's the bed he's made.
Yeah. It really feels like he's never gotten past that mid 2000's woke high schooler mentality. Got the whole world figured out. It's everyone else who's crazy, not him. Just annoying to watch how triggered he gets and then turns around and calls everyone else triggered. Guy can't think for himself but criticizes everyone else. I'd call him a hypocrite but that doesn't quite fit. He's just delusional.
he's not in an echo chamber though, for example he's literally talking to Destiny who pushes back super hard on all his ideologies. Some people go through life never achieving the capability of critical thinking and SNEAKO is clearly one of those people
Everyone lost is an opportunity to those needing to push narratives.
Just a new bullhorn for those trying to tear apart our Country from the inside out.
@@benjaminchia4812 He talks to Destiny for the views. He's not listening to the points given.
No one ever argues against Sneako in these comments. It's just personal attacks.
“I have a blue-hair woke family” is a hilarious take on oneself
If Destiny could be accused of fucking any orbiter, it would have to be Sneako with the amount of charity he gives this guy. Mans literally says he can't conceive of ever being wrong on anything and he's still giving him the benefit of doubt.
Probably cause he wants suck him off the amount of times he puts sneako in the title every week proves he wants to suck him off
Just wait until that bridge burns and we'll see all the pent up opinions he's holding, like with the other orbiters
Alienating Sneako would lead him down an even worse path imo. Destiny's one of the only people in Sneako's orbit that's actually trying to pull him away from all this conspiracy theory bullshit.
@@SubtleHawk there's this other up and coming streamer named Not So Erudite doing the same thing. Only it's with leading him away from red pill and black pill stuff.
You actually agree with everything he says. More charitable because of x therefore he can only be more charitable because of x.
I love how fast destiny's brain works. If I was in a debate I literally would be very slow and have no idea what to say - but destiny is just like SNAP SNAP SNAP with amazing points.
Are you new here? This is all he does. All he has to do is repeat what he's already said.
I mean he's clearly smart and this is his job. It's expectable
It would be more impressive if he wasn't wrong all the time. 16:40 Destiny literally lists Germany as a country which didn't have its borders changed after the second world war... you know that time they got split into two countries and the Soviets' absorbed Kaliningrad.
@@link10909 Meh it's good to exaggerate against bad faith people. Sneako isn't bad faith but he has an ego, he won't change if you run over the detailed points with him. He just doesn't look at the data. If a person that doesn't research but just shows up with talking points to the debate, you bring random numbers at him and show him that he hasn't researched. They'll be too lazy to do it and just drop the point.
@@link10909 It's what I use.
I've only seen Sneako a few times, but even so hearing him say "I don't get triggered often" made me chuckle. Dude is always triggered every time I've seen him.
yeah but he just exaggerates and puts on a saturated personality for the camera. gets more views like that.
I’m not sure I’ve ever seen an Internet personality with as stronger case of projection than Sneako.
I don’t even think he reads summaries of books. Everything he says is downstream of something someone else said
He isn't though. You're just saying that.
@Rogue Bot Account sure. Also, the moon is made of cheese.
Agreed. Anytime I see sneako get really challenged, he instantly flies into “people like you” rants, instead of just addressing a point.
“Sneako do you really think Kanye is right about Judaism?”
Sneako: “here we go, people like you ALWAYS ask this to hurt me, and have secret plots to end my CAREER ( 😭 😢 )”
It's a shame. Whenever he makes a statement and gets pushback he just readjusts his statement and plows forward instead of acknowledging the fact that his statements/opinions are not based in facts. The problem with conspiracies is that so many people eventually fall in love with this “easy” explanation for all the chaos in the world and refuse to accept that there’s a whole lot more nuisance to everything. There are a few conspiracies that have turned out to be true, but there's a far greater number, the vast majority, that are just major oversimplification of a very complex issue.
He's a kid. Very immature.
I think the problem is that he doesn't get that anything/everything can be spun as a bizarre conspiracy and he just has a hard time coping with that.
Sometimes I think that conspiratorial thinking is just a developmental phase that some people get stuck in.
@@bingbung he is 24/25, not 14
@@Aryman511 he's very immature
@@bingbung it’s time to grow up. He will be just as bad at 30. What excuses are ya’ll going to give him then? Just wait til he’s 40 50?
Sneako: "I do research all the time, I've heard every point of view."
Destiny: "Have you looked into the numbers?"
Sneako: "How can you trust historians/experts/academia?"
As a person from academia, i would take academicians any day over people who 'do their own study'
By "research" he means "reading my rumble chat". I don't believe he ever opened a single book on WW2, or watched a single documentary, ever.
@@hanamusa69 I mean academics also 'do their own study' unless they're just making things up...
Thank you August for the ending of that video from Sneako's stream. Seeing actual Reflection from Sneako and banning that chatter was the Christmas miracle I needed to see today. 10/10 Destiny content.
It really did help with leaving this feeling like maybe theres hope still for him
Bro, a huge detail was missing. The clips on the subreddit. The chat was not only spamming "i love hitler" but also things like "faggot" and general sympathy for hitler. Also, after sneako said "i know theres jews in chat, press 1 if youre a jew" and nobody pressed 1 in chat 😂
@@maxsimes So the "1 in chat if you're jewish" is actually hilarious just to highlight the crazy bubble Sneako's in with Rumble... The other part about spamming racist and sexist shit, meh we can't expect a full 180 in 1 convo(As Stephen always preaches). :)
@@maxsimes Sneakos audience consists of a lot of 14 year old edge lords that find that shit hilarious. They do it for attention because in real life these kids are invisable to the rest of the world.
@@maxsimes I hate when people say mean word :( how dare they? Umm it's 2022 don't you know my corporate overlords have banned these words? Freaking "r words"!!!!
Saw this live. I wish Destiny would hold Sneako to concessions more. He doesn't argue in good faith. He's just a zoomer brand of intellectual dishonesty
I think he's just legitimately stupid
It's more abt "owns" than anything. If he gets to the point where most people would concede, he quickly brings up another topic or whataboutisms his way out of it.
@@nighthawk2548 I think pushing him further on one point would have ended the convo sooner, you could just leave that to sink in with him and his audiance and tally up more non answers, like the thing he said about all the boarders around the world changing after ww2
@@reignmack That’s assuming that anything Destiny says will “sink in” with Sneako or his audience. I don’t think Sneako is concerned about facts anymore. All his dialogue screams intellectual dishonesty, dude is hard headed
Yeah, you can see it in how he constantly pressures people with rapid one-word questions as a response. He's hoping that the other person hasn't thought their positions through, or that they can't talk as fast as him.
9:07 Destiny: “do you ever worry you’ve fallen down a mistaken path?”
Sneako: “no never.”
This explains his hasty alliance with Fuentes, Milo & Ye
If only he understood he is a sheep of Fuentes, he is so much more controlled than a regular 9-5 wojak. People like Fuentes orders Sneako what to believe and what not to and he follows the command blindly
@@DrLinden honestly. I will always be grateful that I pushed myself to read and understand Mein Kampf and Atlas Shrugged. It made me understand why I disapprove of both their ideologies and their authors at a deeper level
Sneako has these conversations with destiny and likes to think that means he keeps an open mind, yet never changes his mind on anything despite overwhelming evidence.
I've noticed that myself and it's very frustrating to watch lol. He's so intellectually dishonest because he still lives in his cocoon of him always being right.
Example? If you don't respond you are wrong.
@@mariagalleriaxi8632 Why on earth would you type this out instead of explaining why you believe senako is a "disingenuous asshole"?
Probably because you can't justify your beliefs which is probably because your beliefs like a lot of video essayists are not organic, they were given to you by a person a lot smarter than you.
What evidence?
Nick Fuentes is the perfect case study for how being well-dressed and well-spoken can easily influence people.
He's not well-dressed
@@occultsymbols Before this Ye arc, Fuentes would usually be seen wearing a suit
@@urmum3773 who is tiny?
@@urmum3773 oh well in that case I have to agree.
I honestly don't understand why Destiny and others says Fuentes is well spoken, English is my second language so I do have to pay attention to the words and conversation, a native speaker can do it in autopilot but I have to do it "manually" and engage more in every sentence, question and reply and everytime I heard Fuentes arguing he just keep jumping and exiting for the tangent when confront with questions, evidence or facts, he pivotes all over the place and I don't understand why Destiny don't call him out every 3 words, is soooo clear but then everyone Acts like he is smart...
like sure I guess it takes skills couple with no shame debating like him, but his behavior is Cristal clear.
If you ask Nick Fuentes what's is favorite color he would probably give you 50% Nazi talking points, 25% why blue sucks and 25% a non-answer like "color is not real and we can never know if the color we like is the color we see, but definitely dark colors are not of his liking "
Sneako gives me strong Catch Me If You Can vibes, when Frank calls the FBI agent on Christmas eve, and the agent says "You didn't call just to apologize did you? You have no one else to call!"
Feel like youve been trying to teach Sneako the same lesson since your first conversation
the boy just has his head so far up his ass that his nose became his adam's apple.
Cuz no matter how many times Destiny says he is a really good reader of people and claims Nick Fuentes, Leako, Lav and Fit are "smart" he's absolutely wrong and a terrible read of people.
Sometimes I wonder how the chemical soup that is our biochemistry can work to form intelligent creatures, then I see people like Sneako and remember that some chemical soups are better than others.
The patience... Destiny is literally talking to him like sneako was a child.
He’s definitely much younger, and let’s say “ less read”.
It’s crazy that these guys are always “just asking questions” but never seem capable of finding answers. There is mounds of literature on how the holocaust is calculated, does Sneako agree, does he disagree? Who knows, he’s never advanced past asking the question
Holy hell you're a sheep
Because he is a child.
@@TonyCox1351 I think it’s because REAL science requires the ability to seek challenges to their ideas, and to really be open & accepting to disconfirming evidence.
The ‘just asking’ crowd does NOT genuinely seek disconfirming evidence openly & acceptingly.
I think that since sneako has lost so many people in his life due to his downhill spiral he’s decided to dive even deeper into bad influences around him
Or, maybe when one "side" excommunicates you, you latch on further to the other side. See Rittenhouse.
Sneako is pretty committed to not looking into things.
Facts
Oh but didn’t you hear? He’s “read a lot of books” on the holocaust. Just don’t ask him to name any of those books or recall any information from then
But how deep do you want him to look into things and are you sure?
It’s all matrix and bots 😒 he has no personality other then his stupidly strong takes that he takes to far
Sneako is a prime example of someone who’s successful convinced himself that any kind of pushback to his ideas is bot behavior or woke bs. Even during the conversation he admits to destiny that he can’t even fathom being wrong about something. A victim of his own narcissism and success
Spot on
This is the red pill problem. Not red pill related but in general. The whole 'hardcore, truth that they dont wanna tell you, man!!'. They basically just swing from one side of the pendulum to the other, explore ideas, adopt them, and then anyone who doesnt buy into them is mindless.. Its like watching the maturation of a child that is 4 years ahead of its sibling, giving shit to the younger sibling for being ignorant.
That last bit about "just asking questions" really did it. The last like 60 seconds was worth the entire video. Clearly hiding behind question marks, and not willing to admit it.
Who knew their first conversation/argument a few months ago would become such an interesting relationship? What a timeline we're in yall
Yo i didnt know you watched Destiny dawg, congratz on the chain my guy!
Sneaky doesn’t evolve at all same guy from that first interview learned nothing
@haz bro😭😭😭you just made my day man wth thank you so much!!!
But yeah bro been watching destiny for a few months straight now and Sneako for years (dude is an idiot) lol!!!
@@imanigordon6803 it got worse imo
@@imanigordon6803 He was a curious video maker with hard questions in all kinds of directions, now he's a full blown "Oh no chemtrails are killing us" nutjob.
"People who want to control me and people who want more money do not have the best interest of the population in mind, they want to keep us controlled and keep us as pawns"
A Tate Pawn, a Ye Pawn, and a Fuentes Pawn walk into a bar...
Sneako asks for a glass of water and calls the kettle black.
Standard bot reply - no substance, attack without reasoning 😂
@@thoughtfulalbatros9683 You just did the same thing I am criticizing Sneako for doing. Let me lay it out since you missed it.
Sneako's direct quote alleges that "people who want more money do not have the best interest of the population in mind" and that their aim is to "keep us as pawns"
My claim is that Sneako's in engaged in this behavior himself. He wants to make more money. He does so by parroting talking points promoted by Tate, Ye and Fuentes uncritically without being able to defend them. He cannot have the best interest of the population in mind when selling an ideology and life style that he admits cannot be attained my a majority of people. Those who cannot attain a life as a "high value man" are kept in his circle for him to enrich himself.
This argument is a syllogism where I take the premise given by Sneako as the main premise and use his behavior as a secondary premise to conclude that he is a hypocrite.
Now, you say there was "no substance," and an "attack without reasoning." This is itself a claim with no substance, no reference and no reasoning. So you have made a critique of a behavior that you yourself are engaged in, which is in my opinion, classic bot behavior.
@@BuskerShanties yehman, I’m a hypocrite… and was working and shouldn’t have been commenting at all 😂
I don’t disagree tbf, he’s in for the 💵 same Destiny and all the other YT’rs. The difference is they don’t have any power
You’re comparing him to people with actual real world clout, not bullshit YT clout, so your syllogism - great word 👌🏻 - is actually a straw man argument
@@thoughtfulalbatros9683 I did not compare him to anyone and I did not claim that he has any power. You did the thing again. Good job. You seem to have a knack for it.
Glad you agree though. I hope your work is more interesting than Sneako is now.
Destiny is really trying to save Sneako’s soul. He’s actually treating him like a toddler. Steven really seems to legitimately like Sneako. Now he’s seeing him fall down a crazy ass rabbit hole and realizing he can no longer reach him.
Sneako is visibly mentally ill the way I see it and I would want to help him too. I don't think he's aware of what he's doing unlike a lot of others in the far-right that know their message, that it's wrong and when they are lying or obfuscating to be more effective but ultimately don't care.
Nah Steven Bonnell is a psycho path. He's just parroting the mainstream neoliberal narrative.
it's because Destiny is gay
@@MrTomJow So you think about dicks a lot by the looks of it... it's ok. I can smell a closet fig from a mile away
@@donjulio420 I can already tell you are not a top g, destiny thinks he is 🤓 but all in all he is just another regular brokie
I think what most people are missing about Sneako is the fact, his entire career and entity is resting on creating this persona. You can tell there's a bit of a sadness there, his family is disavowing him, he constantly is shown saying things like, "My entire chat is full of W hitler and just..." He's walking down a bad path, and I think he knows it, but he's making the kind've money to where if he jumped off it, he could lose everything. I think Destiny was spot on with his comments about not being able to displease his audience. I do believe he held some of his beliefs in actuality but after a certain point he just needed to tow the line.
He doesn't have the ability to speak to the left anymore th, look at all the leftists who -hate- him, they'll just crap all over him no matter what.
He has the right or...nobody. He -needs- to keep on his path or it'll take him back to being broke, and that fact is really scary.
Tru frfr
@@lovebomb7405 NO
@LoveBomb Yeah if my whole family refused to talk to me, I'd be 'good'.
Its the entire plot of all these right wing "Pick Me's". They have lost their family and friends and are in too deep with their current social contacts that thet would end up alone if they changed their talking points.
You just wrote armchair psychology on some guy you dont even know. Do you post on reddit a lot too? Lsf? Big karma. Take my gold sir.
Destiny’s friendship with Sneako has always been so strange to me. Sneako is constantly saying ridiculous things but Destiny always treats him with kid gloves. It reminds me of how he was with Lav but it’s worse with Sneako because he says so many inflammatory things. Contrast that with how he acts toward people on the left and it’s just strange. He’ll rage about any inflammatory or incorrect thing a lefty says but he just says “oh okay” or “well I saw his old content and he’s a smart kid” when it’s a person like Sneako.
I want to say he's picking his battles because he wants Sneako to stick around but he never pushes as hard as he should
@SacredCASHcow this is it. Destiny is seeing if he can do the impossible - shift someone deep in conspiracy world, who is smart, but lost, out. I'm watching it as a case study to see what works to try and help some other lost souls I'm sad to see fall into conspiracy world.
You don't handle a child the same way you would someone who should know better. It pisses me off infinitely more when supposedly intelligent people bend truth to lie than when young people are just trolling. Ignorance vs. Intentionality.
@@NEONJAGU4R He's not a child and he's just as old as the lefties that Destiny instantly gets triggered about.
It's not strange at all. Sneako remains good faith. Destiny returns good faith with good faith. If you start pounding people, they don't go away, they just become bad faith.
Sneako: I'm not antisemitic
Sneako: *Proceeds to give every antisemitic talking point under the sun*
The fact people see this guy as a thought leader makes me lose so much faith in humanity.
The sad part is, every racist is like that. They like to think they don't hate for simple things such as skin color or religion but more scientific things such as theory
@@orraz1526jewelry are 2% of the population and yet they make up 30% of the government wild
@@Bluemann023 got those stats from your ass
Sneako is so lost nowadays and destiny really feeling bad and sorry for him and being worried about him is actually so wholesome. God bless them both
The battle for Sneako's soul has officially been lost.
Sneako is down the right rabbit hole worse then his Shneako arc
Sneako was lost before Destiny even found him.
Your delicious tears - I cannot express the joy I feel reading these comments
Won
They won the battle but we will win the war. It is really about the long game. What we really need are ways to turn good people like Sneako immune to these mind viruses and this is a good opportunity for us to practice.
To any Sneako fans watching with the question on the numbers of the holocausts id urge you to read/watch/listen about the "holocausts by Bullet" which was the large scale killing of Jews in conquered Russian territory in the wake of Operation Barbarossa. The thing you learn is just how close these killings where actually tracked down to the number of people per village shot and how many bullets where used some truly horrifying stories in the material relating to it. btw this was all happening well before the death camps where in full operation scary shit
@@gotworc ya 100% correct but the reason that people even say that number is because there is a INSANE amount bookkeeping that the Nazi's did to both cataloge progress and in many ways find better way to exterminate people they wanted gone which is scary on a whole other level ya Sneako is def Talking like these are Battle stats from Ancient Rome which is silly as fuck
Watching SneakO literally getting lost in the sauce is probably the most fascinating observation of 2022. He took clout Goblin to a whole new level
My grandma was a polish Jew who my Canadian veteran grandfather saved and brought to Canada. The stories I heard about the terrors of the Holocaust. The way it affected my grandfather when he came back. He became a major alcoholic and never spoke about the war.
I think this is a pretty cool thing you are doing, publicly refuting morons and making them look like fools is how we can eventually make people understand each other better.
What's a woman?
Homie got uninvited from his family event and blamed them lol. Goddamn that depressing
i'm just glad his family is not nearly as braindead as him. they made a good choice.
If your family abandons you for shit you're adjacently associated with, they're not a loving family. Excluding family over politics is legit evil.
@@elronelron812 we'll never know how that conversation played out, many of us know what its like to have a relative aiming down hard. Sometimes all you can do is limit people's ability to take you down with them.
@@elronelron812 Loving hitler is evil. Excluding someone who loves Hitler is not evil. Excluding someone who chooses to associate with Hitler lovers, is not evil.
The politics don't matter, that's just insane
@@natediaz1863 y'all disown your gay and trans family members all the time but for some reason draw the line at disowning Hitler lovers lmao
The final seconds of this video are absolute gold. Its almost self reflection.
@@pingeee Ew get help.
He asks the question but doesn’t give a sh1t about discovering the answer. Brilliant
Dude so crazy he is choosing Kanye over his own family. You can’t make this up 😂😂😂
@LoveBomb he does. 😐
because his family are not famous, they are "brokies" who work "bot" jobs
ikr it's insane
@@lovebomb7405 lolllll 🤣 interesting take
@LoveBomb bro I clicked on your profile and read some of your comments…you like Kanye huh?? 😂😂😂
The fall from grace from Sneako is crazy lmfaooo, went from being someone with decent ideas to a pseudo-intellectual that argues in bad faith constantly
He's making money so he probably doesn't care as long as he's getting the bag
@@Silverwidows he’s getting a bag, but not the bag he would get if he didn’t choose sides and double down on his takes. The proof is when destiny asks him certain questions sneako avoids them or says “I didn’t say that.” But he most definitely implies it. Good luck being a model again or being sponsored from a big company. The dude has limited his monetizing arsenal.
You mean like Destiny?
@@kamii_999 hahahahahaha
What’s a time stamp with an example of him exhibiting bad faith?
Including that last clip is so telling, and encouraging. Sneako is trying to act confident, but you can tell the harder-hitting points (like, "you can just google where the 6M numbers come from, so not doing that is sus") are getting through to him, even if he doesn't explicitly realize it. He's feeling uncertainty and it's cracking his facade of confidence, and wants validation from his chat to prop him up.
No one claimed it is 6 million "No more no less." Research showed that it is no less but quite possibly more than that number. In recent years there were many additional smaller camps found that people didn't know about. The fact that he presents "counting corpses" as the source for the number of victims shows that he has done ZERO research on the holocaust and how we know anything we know about it.
I think Destiny is making a really salient point there at the end: if Sneako actually cared to know the answer, he would know it. Even if he wanted to dispute the methods of inquiry, that would require him to _know_ and _understand_ them. The truth is that he doesn’t care, and that is what makes him a bad person.
I actually did the 5 minute Google search about how the Holocaust estimates were arrived at. There's a wealth of information available, including a whole bunch of primary German sources that the Nazis didn't destroy. It's very telling that Sneako is so sure nobody can know, yet he doesn't know why people believe they do know.
That was my first thought when he kept saying that question. I was like, why aren't you looking up how they arrived at that number. They didn't pull it out of hat, also it's not exactly 6 million on the dot. I was so happy when Destiny finally got to the point as to why he really doesn't care.
Apparently Sneako thinks that if we can’t definitely confirm it’s 6 million exactly, that we should just call it zero
@Xavier E what's worse here is that sneko claims to be a critical thinker (not a bot) but is the very definition of a bot like person.
@@TonyCox1351 or we could just say its roughly 6 million?
The ultimate catfight, kool-aid avatar vs red-pill karen.
This is a lowkey sharp comment
😂😂😂👍
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep reaching out to the manosphere and engaging in dialgue. I think it will give their influencers some perspective they can then pass onto their audience... great work
As someone who's also 23 I really hope sneako gets the help that he needs
help? ben runs from shapiro’s
You mean Destiny gets the help he needs. He is going so far into the deep end this hair is blue now 😄
As someone who is also 23 I just hope he loses access to the internet and any job prospects beyond burger flipping.
Why is the clown even relevant?
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 I hope the same for you
How can someone have this little self awareness is beyond me
honestly man, I'm not a Destiny fan, (and I'm growing farther away from Hasan) but mother of God I would never wanna debate him. Dude really slams logic home, over and over. The period from about maybe 6:00 to 6:20 was wild, watching Sneako being confronted and having to really think about things. I really think Sneako needs people like Destiny in his life. I used to hate this dude, (Sneako) but it's refreshing to see a back and forth that wasn't malicious, like this. It just reinforces that we are indeed human at the end of the day, but the way we approach each other is so goddamn skewed now, because of years of social media exchanges and this binary "us v them" approach for everything.
Out of curiosity, why are you growing further away from hasan?
@@uhreee6392 Probably for more personal reasons than I'd like to be on the internet at this point. Nothing against your question. TH-cam isn't where I'd have this conversation.
Sneako's halfway smiling when Destiny says he's defending people who say they love Hitler is telling. This dude is just a troll.
Reading the statement itself is just funny. He's extremely passionate, just misguided. He'll definitely come around eventually, he's the kind to do that.
@@theludvigmaxis1 how does he make peoples lives worse LMAO
@@theludvigmaxis1 you have no idea what a sociopath is
@@OohsAndAhsBros YOU CAN FIX HIM 🤗
@@OohsAndAhsBrosmaybe he'll come around after he lands in jail. The path he's on, ends exactly there. Or on a no fly list.
Sneako is proof that watching your girl get a train run on her will turn your brain to mush.
Ruthless
Sneako: "I'm not saying XYZ."
Also Sneako 30 seconds later: "XYZ! XYZ!"
3:09 “Fuentes told me that” tells you everything you need to know about Sneako.
When Sneako was saying his views are challenged daily he forgot to mention that his views are challenged only for monetization. He’s obviously not reading actual articles or papers, just listening to people talk on his streams and comments. And yet he thinks he’s super informed. Sad.
and "challenged" is a funny way of saying "people disagree with me but I don't care what other people say and I'll continue to have them in the face of overwhelming evidence."
@@delam617 it really is insane. He’s down the rabbit hole so far he can’t even see the light
Sneako is the best evidence against his own argument that school is a waste of time.
School is not a powerful enough force to battle a boss of this caliber
lololloloololololoololololol. truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeee
"I have a blue haired woke family" says all you need to know about his mental faculties
Destiny not giving up on Sneako proves the quality to having destiny as a friend.
I used to watch SNEAKO and seeing him go down this path is absolutely sad.
And now you watch a blue-haired millionaire screech about the Holocaust instead. Not exactly progress.
And it was all just a year ago too. Sneako's videos were some of the best in terms of editing and content. I hate to see him go down this route because I remember the content, vision and creativity that got him to that his point of success. In ways, it is pretty similar to Kanye's rise and fall.
@@ricofinesse6751 what's his name?
Seeing him go down this path is glorious
What happened to Sneako is that he is at that age where you know enough of the world to think you understand the way the world works but not enough to know that there's so much you don't know. Remember, Sneako is 24! At 24, I had the same level of conviction. My saving grace was that there was no social media
I never in my life had that level of conviction. Can we stop treating age as a proxy for maturity? Trump is a 77 year old toddler and Severn Suzuki spoke to the UN about climate change at 13.
@@SoloDallasII Sure There are always exceptions but in general, Older people tend to be more mature in behaviour than younger people. So it's shouldn't be surprising when a 24 year old is acting immature. He was a teenager, 5 years ago. That's my point.
So In general, Age is a good proxy for maturity up to a certain point
He is 24, not 14.
I don't remember "he is only 24" excuse being used in the past outside of like marriage talk or whatever.
@@SoloDallasII Thank you. I'm sick of people thinking age is an excuse. You don't need experience to realize it's absolutely asinine for you to not even entertain the idea that you might be wrong about ANYTHING. Also, a 24- year-old guy is not a child ffs.
I have never met another 24 year old nearly as maliciously ignorant as he is. This isn't an age thing. This is a matter of being scum that sustained some type of severe concussion.
sneako is like a lot of the kids i go to school with. They hear something new for the first time and instead of doing further research they just fully believe it based on practically nothing. I do like that he remains open enough to new ideas because no one changes their mind instantly and I feel he still is capable of changing his mind even though he said that he doesn't think that he can be wrong
IMO this is the biggest problem with censoring these ideas. Because they are absolutely wrong, and the evidence is there, but they hear something new and there's not actually that much information out there countering it. So they feel like they've found something NEW and hidden and perhaps some secrete knowledge. It makes you feel like you know something other people don't know. So then it can be really really hard to pull someone off this secret knowledge they believe they've found.
Everyone does this. Destiny trusts historians explanation for the h0l0c@ust despite the incentives. Which on incentives, why on earth would you use defer to expert opinion here? It's like asking an Apple executive (an expert) what the best phone is. If he answers the wrong way it's career suicide. You can take his explanation but his position should not add any credence to his opinion.
@@jeffwells641 Except this example proves the opposite. That people are taking in information uncritically without actually looking into the available information. It's not that historians haven't provided an explanation; it's that people are primed into believing information so long as it aligns with their pre-conceived biases and prejudices. This is why they'll use meaningless words like "bot" or "bot historians": to discredit anyone they disagree with.
If you want to formulate a conclusion, it would be the opposite: you should censor disinformation to stop people from falling down those rabbit holes, because they're not willing to let their perspectives be changed by available historical facts.
You claim that it's the censoring that's preventing us from debunking these ideas; when it's actually the non-censoring that is allowing the proliferation of these ideas, regardless of whether they've already been countered or not (and they have been).
>So they feel like they've found something NEW and hidden and perhaps some secrete knowledge.
Yes. Because they don't censor it enough, and some people (teenagers in particular) are highly driven by contrarianism. Contrarianism is an anti-intellectual philosophy.
@@he.5865 Since when do historians act as a monolith that aligns with the interests of a particular narrative? Yet another conspiracy theory. An Apple employee works for Apple. An historian works for.... the Big History sector? What's your point?
@@feelthebern3783 OH CRAP THE ANALOGY ISN'T ACTUALLY JUST ME SAYING THE SAME THING TWICE?!?
No you fking brainlet incentives can come from different places and still be incentives. People generally act in their own interests. Agreed? You can't not agree with that. Now, here's something you must also agree with, IT IS NOT IN A GIVEN HISTORIAN'S INTERESTS TO GIVE ANY CREDIBILITY TO ANY HOLOCAUST EXAGGERATION CLAIMS. You can't disagree with that right? Therefore historians would obviously be pressured to not support holocaust exaggeration claims.
Respond to each point, do not make up an imaginary argument.
They did track the deaths, they wrote them off as natural causes; they may have destroyed documents, but you can still estimate the amount of people by the delivery record of trains and how many people can fit in one box car.
Honestly their relationship is really wholesome
Everyone needs friends that argue with them. Keeps you grounded
That silence right at the end, that was brutal. Poor sneako, his brain reset with that line of questioning.
One of the single most ironic back to back statements you will ever hear
"I follow god and I dont listen to those who try to control me"
Lol you can't even write this shit.
It's crazy how smart someone can sound until they are asked questions that actually make them think
I have always said this about Destiny but it's so true
Kamii not really, but ok.
"Do you know how they came up with that number?"
"I've heard every single side."
Cool story bro.
Saying it’s anti semitic for asking questions about numbers is like saying you’re transphobic for asking how many pro nouns there are now. Or trans phobic for asking questions about trans women winning woman of the year and winning every women’s sporting event they compete in.
When you aren't looking for an answer and are doing it to make someone look bad. It is.
Google search it if you are genuinely curious. It will take you at most 30 minutes if you want some additional context.
I like Sneako, and think he’s entertaining and funny.
I really hope he keeps talking to Destiny. Destiny does a masterful job here of pointing out holes in Sneako’s logic, and warning him about going down a dark path… without simply attacking him (like is so common today).
Shoutout Destiny.
Sneako may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but do you think that he takes the warnings seriously? And is he acting in good faith or is he still just a shock value fiend?
Sneako is dumb as a rock.
@@andrewtate5252 true, but he's cute. So I'd hit it.
At some point, the act of questioning tags out with unrelenting contrarianism.
"How did historians determine the death count?" is a question
"It's impossible to know," is not a question
Sneako has never heard of a census lol
You’re a lost destiny fan 😢
4:08 Sneako can't be this dumb considering his past. He has to be grifting.
30:30
The problem is that Sneako isn’t “just asking questions.” He is also making statements. If all Sneako did was ask questions he would be fine. But he doesn’t do that
Sneako doesn't want to ask questions. Sneako wants to find answers. And he knows what kind of answers he wants to find, because he'll deem any information he doesn't like as "bot" or "part of the matrix".
Its a sad world we live in when people brag about meeting people like Ye or Tate or any public figure.
Why are these experiences milestones in these peoples lives??
I guess my question to sneako would be is this all really worth it? Saying how your parents practically don’t want you around and how you’re being cast out as a crazy lunatic with these extreme ideas, does this fulfill you? Like I’m just confused as to the end goal he’s burning every relationship he has all for exposing this “matrix” we live in
Seems like a parent problem.
Look up fait accompli and realize this is the state of all people who think like you
Sneako is gonna look at all the criticism as validation that he’s right. Because to him if you aren’t being persecuted then you’re doing something wrong. His perception of reality is truly backwards and he’s probably undiagnosed with…… something.
*Sneako*
“History is written by the winner”
*Destiny pushes up his glasses*
“No that’s not true. History is written by historians”
Sneako is so right, if you go to high school in Japan all the history books are American
@@TonyCox1351 there are way more resources than ur school history book lmao.
Man yall lefties are so dumb. Sure something like history Alteration never happened ever, and Sure its not Happening now. Of course.
@@basedchad6035 no one has ever said history alteration doesn’t happen so I don’t know who you’re arguing with
@@TonyCox1351 yes everyone one of you have said that! "historians write history" inplicates that todays understanding of History is right because "duh, objective historians wrote it, its their profession"
And dont Tell me thats Not implicated when yall write that as a counter to "the winner writes history". And if you after I pressured Tell me thats Not what you want to implicate, okay, then why even write that then? And all youre lefty friends are still around and for them its true.
I cannot honestly tell if Sneaking really believes this stuff or knew he could get bigger being controversial and edgy and then started believing his own shit and echo chambering himself. I just feel sorry for him.
He most likely believes it because of who’s saying it. It’s well documented that Ye is Sneako’s idol, and as most people do, refused to accept wrong in their idols. I would believe Nick to be a bit more malicious in using Ye as a platform, but Sneako is definitely in the mindset of your average kpop twitter stan if they were able to network and work directly with their favourite artist.
Sneako is the quintessential example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect. He knows almost nothing but speaks like he is an authority on everything.
Destiny playing his "factory game" while taking part in the craziest discussions lmao
It's impossible to discuss and play at the same time. Factorio is his mind working, no one knows whether its D playing or Factorio discussing thru his body.
I'm surprised destiny did not notice when sneako called Kanye West " the first black president" =))
I died laughing cause I was like.. Did Sneako and those ppl he hangs with forget Obama existed?
@@goddess_bree Obama wasn't black he was mixed race 🤦♂️
Man this was actually kinda wholesome ngl. I've never seen anyone else talk to Sneako and actually get him to think without just devolving into a total yelling match.
And this is why free speech is important
I don’t agree with either of them on anything but its good they talk openly - and they should be able to be more open to dig deeper. Hopefully some seeds have been planted for Sneako to consider
Destiny isn’t right on everything but I don’t think Sneak is on his level enough to plant seeds yet - not a dig tbf, he’s just younger and needs more experience. His lack of trust in governments is his strongest trait and he should trust his gut
Sneaky clearly has no idea about german bureaucracy when he says who counts 6 million people lol
Or the obvious issue of "how do they know it's 6 million" ....... Wellllll there was six million people that were like around, and now they aren't around anymore lol. And they weren't given uniforms to go fight in the war sooooooo.
It's not like these are 6 million things in a closet somewhere nobody saw and suddenly aren't there. These are six million people that had family and friends and years later didn't exist anymore lol. That's a big fucking way they know, these aren't numbers on a sheet they are people. If someone's asking "what happened to Doug?" 6 million times yeh..... Pretty clear what happened to six million
Sorry if I sound dumb or offensive but how did they manage to get all the names and location of Jews? Millions of people is alot
@@Jackhanmma7099 Taxes and conscription into military. If I were a powerful nation state that wanted to bonk my neighbors to take back Alsace and Lorraine it would be a pretty good idea to know how much money I can make and bodies I can throw.
@@runelt99 I wish school taught us more about how they identified jews.
I think you gave him something that shook his narrative. The problem is he's still surrounded by anti-semetic chatter, so he might be able to not think on why he felt uncomfortable.
16:24 You know, I am from Eastern Europe and hearing Sneako say how it is suspicious that "all of Europe was remapped after WW2" makes me fucking lose my shit. So many of these American (or just anglo-centric) pundits know jack shit about the world and the countries within it. They can't fucking imagine that other countries outside of the US have any sort of motivations.
For instance, Romania and Hungary's borders changed a lot during and after WW2. Because they both wanted territory where there was a large percentage of ethnic Romanians or Hungarians living within these territories. Hungary wanted Transylvania back (which it lost after WW1) and Romania wanted Bessarabia, which is the territory of the country of Moldova today.
Of course, I wouldn't blame an average American for not knowing this. These are rather small countries in comparison, and it's not like I am very knowledgeable about what's going on in some of the smaller US states, like Wyoming. But for Sneako to completely brush aside the fact that there might have been reasons for borders changing, is some of the most stereotypical American ignorance, that is straight out of a comedy sketch. But since it's real life, it's fucking frustrating.
I seriously don't know how Destiny has so much patience. He has been SO charitable to people like Sneako, it's insane. I am not saying he shouldn't do it, he probably has good reasons to believe that his method might just succeed. But if he at any point snaps, I wouldn't blame him either.
I think sneako evolved a bit, just backwards lmao
He seems more calm and mature, but I completely disagree with him.
I do admire his curiosity
so devolve
@@C2190 yeah, I just like the PewDiePie meme lol
I don't think it's intentional, but Sneako has learned to be more slithery during these conversations. The way he AGRESSIVELY shifts subjects when he realizes he's pinned by a question is the serpent-like behavior of the extremists that he sometimes spends time with.
The TH-cam gurus were correct. You become the people you spend the most time with
How is that not intentional? He's done it as long as I've seen him on here arguing with Destiny. Dude is just as bad faith as Nick is and all the people Destiny is mad about doing the same thing on the left.
@@delam617 what I mean is, I don't think it's part of any rhetorical strategy. I think he is subconsciously starting to speak like people he spends time with, and is incentivized by the feeling of being "less wrong" if he evades hard questions.
The thing is, even if you were to grant everything neo-nazis say (no, the original nazis never denied the holocaust, and they were NOT coerced in ANY WAY into confessing either),, yuo can still say it was an intentional genocide.
Sneako: yeah I do lots of research I watch documentaries and read studies.
Name one Sneako, just name one.
Lol Zeitgeist and the one about 9/11
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine reading a book
Just imagine ONE BOOK being read 🤣
Omg the way Sneako just doesn't ask further questions. At 16:20 when he says "near the end of the war Nazis attempted to destroy documentation..." What does that mean "attempted?" It sounds like someone has evidence of partial documents or tampering. There's probably a good book or paper out there about this stuff. And he doesn't even care.
“fuentes told me that” PLEASE!!!!
PLEASE! I AM BEGGING YOU! 😂 ENOUGH!
9:02
Destiny: "Do you ever think about being wrong on everything/anything?"
Sneako: "No, like what?"
...
12:56
Sneako: "I challenge my beliefs consistently"
Do you tho? If you don't think you could be wrong how can you 'honestly' challenge your beliefs?
Terminally online, NPC dialogue sneako doesn't realise how close he is to what he hates.
He EMBODIES what he hates. Sneako hates himself