Chris Broussard & Rob Parker RIP Jason Williams For His Michael Jordan Take
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ส.ค. 2022
- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Rob Parker are floored at Jason William's recent comments saying that Michael Jordan wouldn't be as good against today's NBA defenses.
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Demar DeRozan averaged 31.3ppg in 4 games vs the Jrue and the Bucks! and you mean to tell me Mj wouldn't killed the bucks 🤦♂️.
Well MJ is just Derozan with defense lol, MJ is basically Khawi so he would be good but he wouldn’t average 40 and dominate like Jordansexual want us to believe
Thank you lol 😂
I didn’t even like MJ but know way in hell could he not average 40+ points today. Go watch a full game he played. It’s literally like he made every shot he took even when he missed. He definitely the BEST that ever did it. No matter what
No he didn't.. Demar avg 20 ppg and shot 40% from the field...lie lies lies...lol
@@syedhassan2577 what was a lie 🤔
We live in the age of "saying stuff makes it so". Lol
Yeah ofc haha that what Rob and Chris do everyday on this show!
No, just talking for clicks.
Hot Take Culture is corny.
But it sells,
Everyone's a performance artist in 2022
Jordan had to finish at the rim in the greatest big man era of all time by a landslide. Idk wtf Jason Williams talkin bout.
Jordan got a lot of bail out freethrows.
@@AR-rn8ok you can say that about so many players in today’s league. Harden, Dame, Trae young. Jordan would average 15 ft attempts a game and that’s being modest.
@Beery Those guys were limited with how they could play him due to the illegal defense rule. You either had to fully commit to a double team or guard your man even if he was worse then gobert on offense. By the time Jordan got by his initial perimiter defender it was too late for the big to stop him since he was covering his man.
@@GroverJ83 There's vids of MJ even dunking blasting through 3 or 4 guys. And was not even 1 or 2 times. Dafack you talkin about?
All stars get calls.
He also didn't flop unlike stars today.
I keep telling y’all that just because you played basketball doesn’t mean that you know the game! If anybody in this era can get in the lane and score…Mike would definitely do the same, but at a higher level and be more efficient doing it! Mike is the best to ever do it and it’s not even close!
Facts
@Lamar Stewart Keep that hate alive kiddo...
Jason Williams was never known as a smart basketball player. Why do you think the Kings flourished when he left and Mike Bibby came in?
@Lamar Stewart jordan was just as efficient as Lebron while taking way more difficult shots lol Lebron shoots the same percentage and most of his points comes in the paint lmao you’re a clueless fanboy kid
@Lamar Stewart he got a point Jordan Kobe and Iverson all took a lot of shots to average those 27-30pts a game and all those 50 point games they had over there career they took damn near 50 shots to get them Lebron takes far less field goal attempts and can score with the best of them and he isn’t a score first mentality player Lebron nature on the court is pass first set his teammates up
Today's NBA defenses...What defenses? Jason tripping real hard on this one...
Someone tell Jason Williams to stop smoking whatever it is he smoking and stay his Goofy azz off the internet smh
Jason Williams really brought up Brook Lopez LOL
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 These youngsters have no clue. Imagine what Hakeem, Moses Malone, Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Kareem, Parish, David Robinson, and past centers would do in today's undersized game.
@Lamar Stewart You have no clue of what Hakeem was. All time leader in blocks and an offensive juggernaut. You truly have no clue about the infinite array of moves Prime Hakeem had in the post.
That is why Lebron and others pay an 80s/90s player to teach them moves in the post.
*Then what is a great big man? Rudy Golbert? Dwight Howard? Anthony Davis? Come on man, get help.*
Prime MJ was Wade, Kobe, Kawhi, and then some.
Freaking garbage like Westbrook and Harden were MVPs in today's era. Pitiful.
@Lamar Stewart Soft Anthony Davis looked like Shaq against the undersized Heat in the NBA Finals. Any of those centers would dominate today.
@@rudimerm7686 he forgot Rudy 😂😂😂
@Lamar Stewart Lamar, Rodman did it to Shaq 8-years prior, so it did not surprise me. Wallace was a lesser version of Rodman. Sorry man, after seeing the power forwards and centers of the 80s and 90s, today's frontline is pitiful. For God sake, Jokic is a MVP center. Power forwards from the 90s/2000s like Chris Webber, Kemp, Garnett, and Rasheed Wallace would destroy Jokic. In fact, they would be centers in today's sorry as league. Hell, even Kukoc would be a center in today's sorry ass league.
With that being said, MJ is tearing apart these undersized and unskilled front lines combined with the soft foul rules.
If bums like Westbrick (can't even hit the damn rim) and Harden score 30+ in today's game, MJ would have torn it up.
Lamar you got your opinion, but I am in strong disagreement. I'll still respect it, but I'll post a few videos for you to take a look at.
Are we forgetting that prior to 2001-2002, the defensive big could camp in the paint without moving? Luka said in an interview that he just waits for the opposing center to move out of the paint to attack, that is why he is so effective scoring on the inside and according to him find it easier to score in the NBA. Now imagine a more agile, athletic, better footwork with great fundamentals like jordan attacking the lane.
💯
That’s not true. You had to be within arms length of your defender otherwise it would be called illegal defense then the 2nd is a tech. Now opposing centers can wait outside the paint and go back in.
Google MJ and zone defense then get back to me lmao... You couldn't pack the paint like you can in today's NBA. It's nearly impossible to defend MJ one on one. That's why today's NBA defensive schemes revolve around team defense and offenses are less iso(hero)ball driven.
Exactly.
@@javierharo285 he may have struggled by then but that is because of the fact that offensive spacing is practically non-existent back then. Now imagine a team that is built offensively like Harden's Rockets that is practically 5 out or a high pick and roll with everyone else outside the 3 point but with Jordan.
MJ would probably average 50 in today's NBA lol. J Will go have a seat sir.
50 on 40 shot attempts, mj wasn’t sh1t without pippen
@@dadillonful facts somebody was actually there
@@dadillonful ooopss pippen is here lol..didnt u only played 44 games out of 82 in 98 and a decoy yet MJ won? Pippen is nobody without mj is more appropriate..that's why when MJ left the team to him Bulls lost. Took mj whole summer to put them back into a winning team and 96 is the best bulls team...stop the pippen lies.
@@marimari9791 didn’t pippen damn near carried the bulls to the finals without mj? Mj couldn’t even get out the 1st round without pippen
@@dadillonful you are right nearly ..never carried through.. 1st time Piston beat them it bcoz Pippen had a damn migraine . MJ needed to work extra hard the following season to finally beat them...oh yeah almost carried them when MJ retired, coz he was such a bad leader, he sat out a crucial moment coz Kukoch was going to make the shot .and when he was hurt ,he delayed surgery So ThEy will win their last dance right.? . he knew. It was their most important finals but he chose to delay surgery and MJ depends so much on him right?..BS! When Kerr Kukoch and Rodman were with MJ ..he doesn't need Pippen at all.. So stop the false narrative. MJ didn't need him MJ needed team mates because basketball isn't one on one.. So stop saying MJ cant win without him ..MJ can't win alone against 5 of course...but with 4 on the court during his prime, he cant be beaten.accept that Scottie,stop using your burner phone saying the same thing on every MJ video.. If you don't. Have enough video to make u look good , upload more. .then shut. Up.
I think Nick Wright just put White Chocolate as the the 20th greatest player of the last 50yrs.
No he didn’t Luka was 29 stop lying for likes
@@ccae07 it was a joke. Williams insulted Jordan and Nick is building his career on Jordan hate.
@@blackphillip564 that kid a loser lol
Nick wright, Gilbert arenas, and all these other goofy azz dudes need to stay off the internet and go do something else because the stuff they say out their mouths is ridiculous.
@@ccae07 Nick Wright is represented by Klutch. Just by that fact alone, he can’t be considered to have the utmost sense of credibility.
Michael "Air" Jordan, he wasn't given that name for no reason. Yall must have forgot! A young MJ was one of the most dominant above the rim players ever. He would toy with these young guys. The man was literally dunking on 7 footers straight vert. Give MJ two steps and you were a poster! Stop it Jay!
Dominant is what you are, dominate is what you do.
@@daharos simple error in the spelling on my part, appreciate the shout out!
Mj played against plumbers, Any top 25 player today would average 40 in the 90s
@@dadillonful your funny
@@dustinzon3577 don't even bother , that kid is 16 yr old. calling whole gang of greatness plumbers lol..he should watch the Dream Team docu to shut up
Jason Williams then lost his damn mind 🤣😂😂 wtf is he talking about did he not watch the pistons play him smh 🤦🏿♂️
Michael Jordan doesn’t know that Jason Williams exists, and Williams is desperately trying to change this fact.
L
Jason was nice as hell that's why I'm very very concerned and super surprised at his comments cause he's 46 he was around to see MJ at his super prime and he talking this nonsense.
@@mocancer8485 Probably isn't trying to be viewed as an old head, but that doesn't make him look good.
👍🏽I 💯% agreed. Jordan is a savage and I guarantee you if he does know who he is he looks at White Chocolate like boy you didn't even make not ONE All-Star game and I dare anybody in this thread taking up for him to say I'm lying. Nobody cares about his handles there's no such thing as first team All-Handles. I'm sure he just didn't like the way Jordan and Kobe treated him like he didn't exist. 😆
@@allenmk138 right I think Jason is just pandering to the younger NBA fans to get subscribers to a podcast or something like that so he won't be seen as another old head.
I have to say ,Jason Williams may have just uttered the worst take of all time 🤦🏾
"johhny manziel will be bigger than bron in cleveland"- skip bayless
@@visualvandal3986 😂😂😂
@@visualvandal3986 mmm you got me there ! 😂😂😂
Lil guy Ja Morant saying he could take MJ 1 v 1
Right. . Jason might of been hitting a lace blunt....lol
What they do is try to discredit the players that MJ played against in order to discredit him...
But one thing you could never do is discredit the bigs he played against
@Beery lol
Yeah I noticed this as well, and it's corny, Gilbert arenas goofy azz does this sometimes to these dudes be trippin
Mike would dunk on Giannis and Brooke Lopez ...like he did against the greater centers he played against in his era ...I mean come on Mike has more bodies than anyone I could think of
Giannas would bully mj
@@dadillonful Not in this in context ...and it no diss to Giannis .
This ain't the 80s when Jordan was a one of one athletically. It's a bunch of dudes just as athletic if not more than Jordan. Ya'll need to chill with your revisionist nonsense. Giannis ain't Dan Marley and Jeff Hornacek. lol
@Beery Giannis, Levine, Anthony Edwards, Bron, etc.
@Beery everyone I named is a wing
Jordan scored against Hakeem Olajuwon, Dikembe Mutumbo, Alonzo Mourning, Shaquille O'Neal, Patrick Ewing and David Robinson who were all great defenders in any era.
None of those guys were wing defenders.
@@christianjames92 thank you
you named all bigs homie. lol
Yes they were, but they were not defending Jordan.
@Cadillac Kadafi and Sidney moncrief
Jordan at home chilling and he catching strays. Smh. Respect the GOAT.
I really don't get why he saying this outrageous stuff out of knowhere but he tripping if he think that Jordan couldn't score in this era smh😔
By a methed out junkie lol who was not as good as he thinks he was 😂
The hate is real win you on top..
Jordan’s adaptation from playing in three decades is unmatched
This is highly disrespectful to Gary Payton lol
Very.
And he played with Gary Payton in Miami too...smh🤦🏾♂
I feel sorry for Mike. When you the greatest ever you always got people trying to make a statement in whatever using your name. Mike ain't said 2 words yet time after time people bring his name up
He's the goat. Even though these media clowns and fans don't want to admit it. Jordan ain't worried about these simpletons with his name coming out their mouths on the regular. It actually helps his case cuz then kids who've never seen Jordan might go back and look to see who he is. Then they'll see the truth. Jordan haters are so stupid.
What I’ve noticed is now dudes are tryin bring mikes legacy down a notch just to uplift todays players. Its like they are annoyed of hearin how good mj was they tryin to nit pick at this point.
Exactly. Pass the man with your play don't tear him down to make the hurdle easier to jump. The gap in between MJ and the next player is a canyon and everybody is trying to make it a ditch.
That's super facts..funny how some fellas in the 💈 just today saying that OMG..so it's true then...they were saying peeps rather worship LEBRON to avoiding sweating the REAL 🐐 cause it seems like we will never 🛑 talking about MJ and the hell we won't..I love and miss the late great BILL RUSSELL had 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 now that guy surpasses all yet MJ seems to be always main topic and im not mad at all cause he is some generation xers but most millennials favorite idol playing in our era growing up..the Hanes, wheaties, LIKE MIKE Gatorade commercials, McDonald's.i.mean damn once you hear the name Michael say super duper less.
not to uplift "todays players"
to uplift lebron ---they KNOW lebron is not on mj's level so they have to try to bring jordan down
MJ's generation or any generation never tried this with any previous one. They treated their predecessors with respect. Lets you know which generation is lacking...
@@futuretimetraveller8677 rent free lmao madness
He said MJ can’t score in the softest era in nba history🤣🤣. His podcast career ended after that remark.
Facts😂
How is this Era soft? Players back then only got fined 500 for a tech ! In this Era they collecting 10,000 for talking back to the ref also getting closed line out the air is not good defense
@@billygrant6873 u sound ridiculous basing it on the amount they were fined u also forgot that star players back then weren't even making half of what some of these role players getting of course the fines were less because the salaries were less gas was also like a dollar back then cost of living goes up over 20+ years so their fine cost is a foolish point
@@billygrant6873 👈🏾🤡 CASUAL kid born 15 years ago🤣🤣
@@j317 he obviously a casu
Chris stop ducking me and give the players choice props because it was me and Jason Williams going at each other in this segment you guys used..
Facts
Kawhi dunk on Giannis, Jaylen brown dunk on Giannis multiple times. I guarantee MJ would be able to dunk on Giannis too lol
@@AuburnFanSince2010 mj in his last prime years dominated Kobe man just accept the MJ is that great I don't get it why you people don't accept facts.
@@AuburnFanSince2010 both what an inch taller ? JB might actually be 6’6 , also MJ was way more athletic than both , stop the bs
@@AuburnFanSince2010 Kawhi and Jaylen maybe bigger then MJ but the defenders they went against is no comparison. In addition to when MJ played they were litterally allowed to assault people. If they did those types of fouls today, it would be weeks of suspension and possibly jail time. That's what MJ and who ever else had to go through, HOF defenders and MMA type play.
@@AuburnFanSince2010 I can tell you never seen that era live just clips. It was brutal. That's why the NBA * had* to change it. That's more then just a narrative, it was real. I didn't even realize it till way after they changed it.
Those glass players you talking about would always be injured. Kawhi probably retired after his rookie season.
And you already heard just the tip of the iceberg of the list of defensive juggernauts you had to face back then.
@@AuburnFanSince2010 🤔So Clyde Drexler at 6’7 222 lbs should’ve stopped MJ right ? How about 6’5 220 Mitch Richmond? What about 6’7 250 Anthony Mason ? How about 6’8 220 Steve Smith ? 6’7 225 Byron Russel ? Oh that’s right, it didn’t matter whether you were 6’3 or 6’8. You were getting torched by MJ lol
MJ would have a field day scoring in this no defense league of the NBA, plus he'd go to the line at a minimum 14-16 times a game with the way he drives to the basket. Jason Williams is full of CAP
Mj would be demar derozen at best
@@dadillonfulTell me you don't know Basketball without saying you don't know Basketball. Demar Derozan 🤣🤣I see comedy is in your future
@@coreydon7097 😂😂
This makes perfect sense!!! This is about getting your name out there, getting clicks, and getting mentions. Saying outlandish hot takes has become the norm..
exactly!
I was done with Jason after he said that bs about Kobe.
MJ’s finger roll is objectively second to none! Check out that 91 season
George gervin says hi
Mj da goat but he got the finger roll for iceman George Gervin and Dr J …
MJ's reverse lay up was poetry in motion.
@@wilsonpereira6581 unfortunately he took that as well from Dr J 😮💨 It’s MJ all day for me but I have to be honest with you….(Dr J highlights on YT) MJ still my Goat 🐐
They were great at it he was just better more athletic and better finesse
As much as I loved Jason Williams as a player, this statement was nuts. MJ also drive in the lane against an old Kareem in addition to all the centers that were mentioned. There only a few real centers today.
MJ and KEVIN damn JOHNSON aka KJ #7 were the best penetrators in the 80s..Michael feared NO ONE he flew, air reversed, switched hands, finger roll..I mean Michael was doing all star Saturday in the games.
Williams is essentially an old head Bronsexual... they're rare but they're out there
Bro kareem was the same weight as MJ 🤣 as much as i respect the old era, players back then were just too low skilled compared to MJ physically and skill wise. I think it just shows how truly dominant he was in his time. Drop Giannis in the 80s and he's averaging 37-20 easily with how long stars used to play in a game.
Shaq is the last great low post center.
Jason Williams thinks Lebron is the Greatest of all time so to make his argument he has to tear down Jordan. He's a pass first guy so anyone who he deems selfish is no good.
Lebron is clearly the goat
@@dadillonful Yeah CLEARLY 😒
You can't lose more than you win..
Jason Williams is on some Shrooms at this moment..Chris, woke up as choose FACTS. The floor was not spread, the paint was packed..main reason why a lot of guys would struggle in the 90s. MJ quickness was at the level of most PGs playing today, strength/Hand size of a SF. In this era, even without a drastic 3 point improvement, he would avg prob 36 a game for his career.
Jordan’s defense is the reason why he was successful. Despite being famous for his offense.
And anyone from this era would average 40 😭
I think he doing Meth
Google MJs thoughts on zone defense then get back to me....
How many championship MJ has 6,the white chocolate 0 enough said.
I understand what he meant but Jordan also avg 20 at 40 with a different set of rules Jordan was a demon scorer
Before he was injured with wizards and unable to play he was just about averaging his career stats-abohut last 10-20 games🤷🏻♂️
Thank you bro i just made a similiar comment
The 2000's are greatest defensive era. Before injury he was not averaging his average 🤣🤣 he was averaging 25
@Tim Simmons
In his last 10 games up to the injury he averaged
29.7 - 6.6 - 6.1 - 1.2 - 0.3 on 47%
I think this is what he is referring to. Those are roughly his career averages
@@larry3702 it really doesnt matter at this point. Irrelevant people are trying saying outlandish thing just to get attention. Jason Williams couldnt score in the NBA so he shouldnt talk about scoring. Let alone the BEST and GREATEST scorer of all time.
This what happens when everybody has a microphone 🎤 in their face, we start getting stupid ass opinions 🙄
Jason on that powder 😂
He’s clout chasing…
🤣
White chocolate is on that white powder
If you can't hand check MJ your giving away jumpers to MJ and he's killing you with the mid range, try to come too close, he's running by you...and as for having great bigs in the middle look up MJ lay up highlights and see how he finished in traffic all the time.....that was a horrible take
Boom.
Jordan would have 50 points off mid range alone in todays league
Facts
If guys like anthony Edwards and Ja morant can go to the rim and finish , theres no way jordan couldn’t thats crazy
Facts
Omg are you kidding...KISS THE RIM anyone?..ring a 🔔...MJ was doing everything and everyone
No one if saying he couldn’t, just that it’s much harder to do today because of the fact that you can hedge off and zone up behind the initial man defense.
@@2robjenkins I saw someone said DeRozan averaged 31pts against the Bucks last year. I would think MJ could at least average 40 then.
@@2robjenkins they had zones back in the day. They just had to disguise them so it looked like they were playing man. Also, scoring is easier in today's game, so how would it be harder?
Brook Lopez. Lol. He's the most slow footed dude in the league.
Not only that, brook been out of the paint in years. Dude be shooting 3s lol
“He’s in a white chocolate coma!” Lmaoook
Time to take chocolate off his name. Repo man is making rounds
I watched the nba through since the 1990s. Drivers were brutalized in the paint with HARD fouls that would warrant any player a bunch of suspension games. MJ dominate with hand checking, bigs camping & clogging the paint. I can't imagine what he'd have done currently with today's rules. Dude was a nightmare for any opposing team and embarrasing guys throughout the league. Check out the list of hall famers he denied a ring. That let you know how good MJ was. And the killer instinct he has, that edge, that will and drive to win, my godness !! Only Kobe had that edge. MJ would easily thrive in this era and cook any one guarding him. I'm not sure whether any other star could handle the physicality of his era outside LeBron. Give me a break with these tight skinny jeans stars we have now Jason Williams !! Former players would say anything to exist, cough Zero arenas, cough !!
MJ got to the cup without being touched routinely... in the finals. Stop acting like every team was the Pistons, and even their bruiser was shorter and weighed less than Lebron... smfh
@@SummerAwe99 i can definitely sense a nick wright type of reaction here. All i know MJ's era was the toughest compared to Jason Williams' & 👖 era ‼️
No df they weren’t 😂,nostalgia creates delusion, mj would be demar derozen at best
Bro what yall smoking send me some because you gotta be high asl
@@dadillonful please stop being so damn ignorant
Game 6 Warriors started Green, Porter, Wiggins, Klay, Curry. Had 6’9 Looney, GARY Payton II and Jordan Poole off the bench. I think Jordan would be alright in this era getting to the rim or doing whatever he wanted to.
Nah. Looney would stop him. LMBO! That's what Jason would tell ya.
Good point.
And i agree with chris. They only defend the 3 and the paint (barely). They dare guys to shoot mid range. Damar derozan had a resurgent season with my bulls KILLIN dudes in the mid range, averaging like 25-27 a game. You tellin me Micheal Jordan could not score 25-27 in todays non physical, no rim protection era of basketball?! Cmon now
He real deal averaging 50
Everyone is forgetting the hand check rules. Jordan played in an era when a defender could put his arm on you through the play. Since the hand check rule the average nba score has gone up every year.
Jordan played in the weakest era
Jason Williams played in the 90´s i don’t think he forgot lol
Can you show me a game where hand checking was used? Players rarely used it, they would get called for fouls plus you can get by someone easily hand checking. They were off balanced, Dereck Harper and Mookie did it a lot. Send me a game you remember it happened a lot. I started watching ball in 1982.
@@sub-zero7243 🛑 it..I know this is a late April fools
@@Anthonydu01630 not for nothing Michael came back as a wizard while Jason was still playing so he saw him live so how was he able to say this ALTHOUGH he saw Mike in his late 30s early 40s not in 1984-1989 when he was being a defensive beast
1988 Defensive player of the year, all star MVP and Slam Dunk Contest 🏆...c'mon now
guy claims an all time great perimeter player would struggle in today's game? lmfao.
3:33 Jordan probably averaged 37 for all 4 series against the Pistons. I do know that with each successive series against the Pistons, MJ averaged more and more points. Something like 33, 35, 37. With each successive series, the Bulls won one more game. Something like 4-1, 4-2, 4-3, until the Bulls swept them 4-0. This is why you can’t put a LeBron or KD on the same planet as Michael Jordan. Imagine getting better every year against one opponent and only winning 1 game more than the year before and not giving up until you not only beat the team that has beaten you and beaten you up three consecutive years, but you also sweep them and go on to beat Magic Johnson and the famed LA Lakers with a gentlemen sweep…..OH ME OH MY….A SPECTACULAR MOVE BY MICHAEL JORDAN! 👅 🏀
Magic and Steph were more efficient than Jordan offensively. But Jordan just better all around.
Imagine winning 2 MVP and 3 finals MVP after forming a superteam, losing against the MAVS in the finals, being down 3-2 against the Celtics and responding with 1 of the best playoffs game ever in game 6, all of that while being the most hated and scrutinized player ever, imagine staying on the same trash team for 7 years despite losing against the Big 4 Celtics again and again, imagine not giving up despite being down 3-1 in the finals against a 73-9 team, imagine not losing your mind after a 73-9 team added the 2nd best player in the world who is arguably the best scorer of all time and losing 2 time against them, imagine not losing your mind playing against that team and your best teammates (Kyrie) left you.
@@Anthonydu01630 imagine going 4-6 in the finals, being in the play-in, missing the play-in, losing to the Mavericks in 2011, only scoring 8 points in a game, forming super teams, etc.
@@Anthonydu01630 True. LeBron is the 🐐. Jordan's the phoney goat.
@@Anthonydu01630 What you said is true and what the original comment said is. true. When everybody says the truth, you get every Top 75 list on the planet, even the platforms that wanted LeBron to become the Goat, every Top 75 list from the NBA, ESPN, The Athletic, The Arena, and every single list, credible and non-credible, ranked Michael Jordan at NUMBER 1 and LeBron James at Number 2. And another TOP list will not come out for another 25 years when the NBA celebrates the Top 100. So Michael Jordan will be The OFFICIAL GOAT for at LEAST another 25 years and you’ll just have to deal with this reality.
Cold thing is…Chris or Rob forgot to name Hakeem Olajuwon amongst all the all-time great centers he named.
Jason Williams is definitely trippin’ with this take. 🤦🏾♂️
Watch The Entire Video, He Mentioned Hakeem.
2:20😂😂😂Chris be killing me when he get passionate
😂
Jayson Williams is on dope, literally.
Brook freaking Lopez. Im sorry I lost it at that part. Chris a fool for that lol. Brook Lopez somewhere minding his own business saying what I do lol.
literally not one single person of these 83 comments is even remotely on JW's side. The categorical ignorance in his statements. It's a shame, I liked him as a player.
MJ would absolutely run this league if he was playing…not just the skill but his mentality was on another level.
His mentality was 3 levels ahead of everybody else
I think he ment compared to 80's competition. Craig Ehlo, Jeff Malone and guys who didn't have athleticism or size like Gannis, iggy, prime D. Howard. If he ment rules wise no. You can travel practically now, palm ball, no touching. Meaning to play any defense u REALLY have to move your feet and have foot speed.
@Beery I think u actually got to compare the guys who actually guarding shooting guards. Joe Dumars, Mitch Richmond, Jeff Horncek, Danny Angie, Vinny Del Negro.
Tougher guards early in M.J. run. Alvin Robertson, Vernon Maxwell, Dennis Rodman.
@Beery Guys Like Reggie Lewis (R.I.P) He was closer to a modern Players. 6 7' Long , better athletic profile. He block Jordan 4 times in 1 game. Iverson crossing Jordan over. That's what J will means. The better Athletic players of today would make Jordan work more and more size , and athletic ability and shooting would make M.J. work it wouldn't be as easy as 63pt game.
@Beery Reggie Lewis was on of his Hardest Match ups. He had on of his toughtest playoff series against him.
Alvin Robertson 85' was Defense player of yr . JORDAN LOST in playoffs
Dennis Rodman 89' Defense player yr .
88',89, 90 Jordan Lost. That was another reason he never won without Pippen. Hard match up or someone given him problems. Magic posting up and scoring on M.J. 91' finals.. 📣(Pippen!).
Gary Payton 96 finals vs Sonics. Goes 3 to 0 . 3 to 2...📣(Pippen!).
97 finals Stockton key to series. 📣(Pippen!). All 3 cases Pippen comes out and Switched on to guard key player on Defense. Phil Jackson claimed he didn't want to uses to much energy on defense.
Centers dont even clog the lane anymore… they basically all stretch centers who shoot 3s first post up second…Rudy Gobert And Brook Lopez would definitely be on a poster 🥱😮💨
I loveeeee me some 🆕 minted NBA 🏆 BROOK LOPEZ..put respect on that veteran's name..he is one good.3pt center since NEW JERSEY NETS.
@@mocancer8485 shoutout Brook Lopez 💯 great championship run with Bucks …Jordan would still sneak dunk him though…I have to be honest 🤷🏾♂️
@@seriouslystewarts3537 oh no doubt ..that COME FLY WITH ME 1988 🎥 showed just how fly Michael's early moves were and of course THE SHOES..he is the only player in over 30 years whose sneakers sell out like it's 1985 again and each sneaker has a unique story to it due to highlights in his career he did damage in them...like seriously how many athletes had that clout..I mean maybe the Lebrons & KDs of the 🌎
@@mocancer8485 big facts 💯
Driving to the basket was the game back in the day. You had to know how to finish strong in the paint and take the beating that came with it.
JW is smoking something. Today's league is a walk in the park. There's no question that MJ would avg. 40 pts plus a year for most of his career in today's game. Kobe would kill them too. RIP.
BASKETBALL IS NOT A GAME ABOUT TAKING beatings.....Is it Physical Of Course but there is a difference between a hard foul playing tight D rather than just throwing your body against some one elae Mid Air trying to hurt someone cause he has more skill or plays fhe Game Better....It was a Dirty game then.....
@@walterjones2169 It was fun to watch, though.
@@walterjones2169 lol the whole league wasn't a clothesline free for all. Some guys would floor you. The Pistons were an extreme example and nobody liked them hence their name Bad Boys. Most of the NBA played clean ball.
Smh Jason clearly doesn't know his basketball history and proves that every time he opens his mouth trying to compare era's
I like Jason Williams still love his highlights, but remember he was traded from the Sacramento Kings doing their championship aspiration run because he was not a high IQ momentum reading point guard so they traded him for Mike Bibby.
Great arguments. I completely agree.
Jason Williams is trying to get some clout. To get that you have to aim for the biggest superstar of all time in sports.
Real talk people. If you can't touch Michael Jordan or prime Wilt Chamberlain, they both avg close to 50. My pick would be Wilt.
You could’t touch players in the 60´s/70’s and even early 80´s, the game only started to be physical in the mid 80´s and the peak of physicality was in the early/mid 2000´s, and Lebron played in this era so i don’t understand why some old heads think he couldn’t dominate in the 90´s, Lebron rookie season was the last season with handchecking, just 1 year after MJ retirement but they act like he from another era lol
@@Anthonydu01630 exactly people act like Lebron didn’t play in the same era as Kobe, ai, tmac and shaq, Duncan, kg, dirk all great scorers smh
Rob & Chris was all over this one! I totally agree MJ getting 40 a night! Stop it Jason Williams
The Ewing dunk sums it all up.... dude gets double teamed by 2 good defenders in Starks and Oakley, he spins out of it and goes baseline to dunk over a 7' rim protector in Ewing.
Jordan would be driving and dunking all game in today's NBA, probably average over 40ppg without even shooting 3s. If he added 3s, he's going for 50ppg.
Brook Lopez couldn’t move his feet quick enough to stay in front of Marc gasol. What the hell is he gonna do to Michael Jordan?
🤣🤣
He is going to get the hell out of MJ's way..that's what
This take has nothing to do with personnel and everything to do with the rule changes, enforcement and interpretation. The NBA has purposely changed to make scoring easier.
These guys don’t understand the concept of athletic inflation. In today’s nba, you have multiple mj level talents. Maybe not mentality, but it’s also difficult to develop that mentality when there are 10 guys with similar talent who can fly in the air and do everything.
People don’t get this.
Great point bro👏🏿na bro I totally get it
MJ dunked on Mutumbo what else do I need to say
He dunked on all the centers😂
That take dropped by IQ
Ain't it like 3 or 4 Jason Williams that played in the NBA.
What Jason is saying is that the athletes are different now. Say anything about Jordan and the old heads start crying lmao
No, the true basketball heads speak up
As Mike got older he developed one sweetest unstoppable fadeway jumpers that most 7fter's couldn't stop
And if you put a Center on him he would turn and face him and bring him out to the perimeter.
MJ was dunking on 7 footers making them look like lil boys. Going to the hoop dunking on 4 people(no thats not exaggeration). Don't even bring up today's defense against Jordan. Just. DON'T. DO IT. There's no discussion to be had 🤣
JWill is one of my favorite players, but I disagree with this Take.
I actually think it's easier to score in today's game than in the past. I think what's difficult is separating yourself amongst the elite players since so many can score in this era. The gap between MJ and the next great player wouldn't be so big if he played in today's game.
Easier to score in the sense that people finally realized that 3 points > 2 points lmao. Players weren't as athletic as they are today and today's defensive schemes are more team oriented defense as compared to back then when it was more 1 on 1 basketball.
It’s not easier to score, people are just better at scoring/shooting in todays era. They scored the same amount in the 80s with far less three pointers. That should tell you that it was easier to score back then.
it's not even a "think" lol think would imply opinion. this is an objective fact lol
@@javierharo285 skills don't matter as much when you can beat on the on the player. KD is skilled. the minute they put some bodies on him, the skills went out the window. LBJ has been successful in this era because he bullys his way into the basket. there are plenty of players more skilled than Lebron without anywhere near the success.
@@2robjenkins facts these old heads tripping
Love the show when Rob & Chris aren’t screaming at each other.🤣 Welcome back Rob!!! 💪🏾
Love these two dudes
I said MJ with an average at least 45 again at least
He ain't going to lose no credibility, it's media members that has compared Giannis to Shaq. That take is just as dumb.
As SHAQ has also done himself.
@@luckycarter536 So!? That's because Shaq is humble for the most part but Shaq has had questionable takes too. What did Shaq say about him?
i don’t even like jordan like that but he made the game look so easy that people took it for granted lebron “puts all that work in” and you still see his flaws. like giving up on plays
jordan got blessed with GODlike talent and worked on it
They be so ready to cape for Jordan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I just know they brought up hand checking. Rob has some nerve saying you may lose your credibility with wild takes 🤣🤣🤣
I'd rather take an NBA players opinion over Chris Broussard's.
He didn't say Jordan couldn't score, he thinks the bucks defense in nowaday basketball would negate a portion of his offense. That's his opinion, this is only a topic because the show is slow and sucks right now. Former NBA players always have outlandish things to say. Where is the story here?
Plus by the way the generation that is driving the NBA to new heights on social media, don't give a damn about white chocolate. They only know him for elbow passes.
Even though I agree the take was bad, we gotta stop having these discussions without mentioning the illegal defense rule change. You didn't need to be a good shooter to draw your man out of the paint because zone defense was illegal.
Some teams were getting way with Zone though it was illegal at the time.
Teams played zone defenses. Seriously, go look at the film. The Jordan Rules implemented by the Pistons were just zone and extra physicality.
Bingo but people don't understand basketball will think there is no adjustment.
I don't doubt some teams were able to walk the line of the rule but it was still a rule and hand checking was removed after illegal defense was. MJ I'm pretty sure on record noting the illegal defense rule was key to his game. I personally believed he would have adapted to today especially cause he would have had teammates who could shoot. My main point is we can't have this discussion without noting how important that change was.
@@deonterector7424 some players get away with hand-checking today 🤷🏽♂️
The title scared me! I thought J Will Had passed 😩‼️
For a guy who played 8 yrs and avg a pitiful 10 pts a game coming off the bench as a second stringer and was lucky enough to win a ring with Shaq Wade Mourning, no he does not have a right to say something about MJ's game
😂👏🏿👏🏿facts...someone who knows what they talking about cause that's EXACTLY 💯
What he is trying to say is that there used to be a thing called “Ilegal Defense” which prevented a big man from camping down low on drives, forcing them to rush in to help. Today you can station a big man near the rim and play a semi-zone so the defender can be ready to alter the shot at the rim before the drive. This does affect paint scoring, but the 3pt shot is a big problem for defenses and forces those big men to come out and hedge.
So, if you imagine a league where they aren’t taking those kind of threes and making them, and also where there is no illegal defense- that would make it very difficult to get in the lane.
P.S. Rob Parker complaining about a “tired act” is the height of comedy.
FACTS!!
Giannis can't make a shot outside the paint with consistency and he has 2 MVPs, 1 ring and 1 Finals MVP😂😂. Zone defense is overrated af
Jordan fanatics hate logic bruh.
@Beery Wrong buddy. The Bulls kept Centers with mid range jumpers. Illegal defense made you stay on your man. If you post Jordan and keep your big on the weak side he couldn't double Jordan in the post. Thibs defense he ran with the Celtics would have gave Jordan the same problems they gave Kobe. Good try though fanboy.
@Beery Again if you have Luc Longley Wennington Bison Dele at the top of the key or on the weak side how could that center double Mike in the post. How could he legally sit in the paint.
Mj motor is a underrated part of his game. The ability an consistency of carrying the scoring load . He would average 37 for his career . The pace , amount of possessions , his mentality , easy
His motor ain’t underrated 😒 WTF are you talking about 🤦🏾♂️⁉️
Defense sucks so bad when a good player can actually play defense they call him a two way player.
People forget who KD got locked up in these last playoffs over a slight rule change in favor of defense
The pistons couldn't lock MJ up with violence. So what are you saying? KD ain't MJ, not close.
Stop capping. Avging 26 is being locked up?
@@roshawnterry1929 did you watch the games. KD was more rattled than a rattling snake.
MJ would have multiple seasons where he averaged 40!? I disagree with Jason Williams. MJ is cooking these guys in the paint today. But he's not averaging 40. Let's relax. And quit bringing up hand-checking like that's shutting people down lol
Would he win without Pippen or Phil is the question
You do realize he averaged 37 and then 35 on strictly 2’s???? You really don’t think he could average 42-45 in this rec league era?
Get outta here bro. You really tripping.
@@andrewwebster7185 and James harden averaged 36. The yr MJ averaged 37 he was taking 28 shot attempts per game. That's absolutely insane lol. He was also shooting about 12 free throws a game.
@@andrewwebster7185
I thought all you Jordan fans cared about is chips? MJ didn't win when he put up numbers
@@andrewwebster7185 agreed
It's funny hearing, Rob; of all people,
talking about, "losing crediblity," regarding, "hot takes."
This Dude has some of the worst takes out there.
His Curry opinions are nothing but hot take trolling.
Can’t agree more!! Rob, “the man of no credibility”
MJ could never hack it in today's game. He'd get hammered every time he went into the paint.
Lol 😂 this was a joke right
@@cortezwatson9212 yes, it was a joke. There's no paint defense like there was in the 90s
@@S2pidMedia lol Aw okay
@@cortezwatson9212 I think MJ could put up 40 a game easily today
I think Jason Williams is talking about Jordan suiting up and playing right now. So he's saying a 60-year-old Jordan wouldn't be able to score as easily as he did back in the day....that's the only way this makes any sense at all.
I like how u say brook Lopez to fit your argument what about giannis
what about him? he'd get the same treatment all those other guys they named got. giannis ain't special in this conversation.
Giannis is good but back then there were better centers than today
mj wud average 40 cuz he'd shoot moe 3s even doe mj went 8 years below 30% from da 3 😂😂😂
mj said he wuddn hav da same career goin against zone defense
jayson williams was clearly debatin people gettin push back on his show... they lied
Mj literally avg 20 against those zones at ages 38-40. What do you think a prime mj would’ve done ? Also kobe damn near played just like mike & he was the most lethal scorer in the 00s. Mj would’ve had no problem
MJ at 38 and 40 was pretty good dealing with zone and hand checking with bad knees.
Kobe averages went up and went berserk when they removed Hand checking.
@@deonterector7424 mj only did moderately ohkay cuz he was his best as far as shootin da ball... but he still got cook'd stop da cap guy no playoffs... mediocrity
handcheckin was abolished in 1979... refs called handcheckin inda 80s an 90s 😂😂😂
@@zReNAgAdE504 the league removed the rule(hand checking)when Jordan retired because of the lack of perimeter production when the legend took off in 2004.
@@deonterector7424 dat was a so called improvement... i got da NBA callin handcheckin on ma channel guy... u cant lie tuh renagade
Jason William 🎵s like a fool uttering that statement.
"He's in a white chocolate coma"..That's Robs best line in years🤡🤡🤡
They didn’t play the part where he said that teams back in the 90s couldn’t put three defenders on the same side of the court like teams can in todays game. They just cut and patched the sound bite like a collage
Of course because they wanted to cut out all of the actual basketball analysis.
Exactly
Jason Williams smoking dawg food! Lol!!!
As Savage as the Billy-🐐 AirJordan is he just looks at White Chocolate like who is this dude who's never made not even ONE All-Star Game.
This whole segment shows how little rob and Chris know about basketball. They missed the point entirely, they don’t know how the illegal defense rule worked.
So you are saying that you know more than them
@@roshawnterry1929 ...lol right
@@roshawnterry1929 anyone does, they don’t know ball and this whole segment shows that. They speak in generalities not actual facts. They completely missed the point that was being made because it didn’t fit their narrative.
@@2robjenkins You forgot about the illegal defensive 3 second that was added in 2001-02. Scoring went up that season lol
@@2robjenkins MJ literally played 3 seasons in college against unrestricted zones, without a defensive 3 and legal hand checking and DOMINATED averaging 17.7 ppg on 54% FG lol. If you’re wondering why his scoring was lower, there a longer shot clock in college and less minutes in a game.
Jason Williams is trying to keep his job.
He was always such a wannabe, shut up you clown! He was a one trick pony!
Bad take by Jason Williams, but I’ll give him a pass. That dude was probably the slickest point guard with all his passes and the handles that I’ve ever seen
Jason Kidd? John Stockton? Magic?
You must of never watched white chocolate so go sit down
Yeah on a pro level, he has the best 2 for one highlights of sick handles and the assist.
Magic? Bob cousy isiah Thomas
They be soo hurt when people give their Jordan opinion 🤣🤣
These dudes said Mark Eaton and Rick Smits lol..gotta love nostalgia.