Jordan has always given Pip his flowers. On the Dream Team he picked Pip first in scrimmages to be on his team. But when he came into the league he was soft that was his rep. In practice M.J made sure he was defended by Pippen. Who cares what the media says if the GOAT says you helped make him the GOAT.
Def, dude continually fails to see his own value.. I guess that’s what happens when you’re as good as pip was but you’re stuck in the shadow of the greatest to ever play your sport your whole career.
MJ said in his Hall of Fame speech that there would be no Michael Jordan without Scottie Pippen. So this blurb is right but there's a bit of hyperbole to sell the book. Let's keep a level head until we get an opportunity to read the book
@@redmanjohnson4616 Oh I know. I think that's a bad agent, and he wasn't smart enough. Think how young pro athletes are. It was his mistake and couldn't own it.
“He helped me so much in the way I approached the game, the way I played the game. Whenever they speak Michael Jordan, they should speak Scottie Pippen. When everybody says, well, I won all these championships, but I didn’t win without Scottie Pippen. That’s why I consider him my best teammate of all time.” Quoted by MJ.
@@adrianprince7266 I understand why Pippen is mad. But fam that is part of the game, I know some year can be bad, Rough & sometime awful. But is ok because you did something that only a few players did in NBA history.
@@adrianprince7266 it sure doesn't help. Mike rightly praised him, but he can't take a little bit of heat. A little that was at least somewhat self inflicted?
That was MJ tho. Always building his teammates up & given props where deserved, although he would crush them behind closed doors. He liked how scottie played his role better than anyone.
The documentary was more than fair to Pippen and the tag line is something MJ has said himself. These descriptions are to encourage people to by the book.
I like Pippen but he acts like a little bitch sometimes. Jordan gave more than enough praise to Pippen during their playing days and after. Pippen gets upset about something in The Last Dance that he did, it’s not like he didn’t do it.
From what I pieced together from reading about the book: Scottie is saying he was an essential element of the Bulls championship teams. Without him they would not have won. He is not saying they could have won without Michael. My guess is he is going to say that he was the leader the other players talked too. He was the good cop to Michael's bad cop. I'm not saying I agree with Scottie but he isn't saying he was as good as Jordan player as a player. Again, I could be wrong, we will see when the book is released.
everything that scottie said is true and EVERYONE knows it already so what is he trying to say exactly? i'm confused, he's just regurgitating what's already been said about him...
@@windridermach Pippen was lucky to play with Jordan If he never got traded to the bulls We wouldn't even know who Pippen was so Pippen needs to be thankful
Pippen averaged 15.7 on 34% in the 96' Finals... This is just 1 of MANY series where Pippen was horrible, but no one noticed or cared because only 1 man was responsible for winning - MJ... Pippen averaged 17/7/5 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs, and 19.0 on 42% in 6 Finals... He simply never led... He's just a liar and a low-producing bum that Jordan carried.. Pippen had a .500 ballclub in 95' before MJ returned to carry Pippen to another 3-peat in his first full seasons back. And anyone decent wins alongside Jordan.. Stockton/Malone were basically B2B champs in 97/98, so Stockton/MJ would win every year.. Stockton had twice as many All-NBA as Pippen.. Smits/Miller nearly beat the 98' Bulls and made the 00' Finals, so Smits/MJ win every year... Etc, etc..
I've done research for years about Pippen's impact on the team and what you said is exactly what my research says. Steve Kerr described Pippen as his favorite teammate. Most of the players said when Mike retired and Pippen was the leader they had the most fun playing basketball. As people found out in the Documentary ( I already knew) MJ was extremely hard on his teammates. As you so eloquently stated they often talked to Pippen and he consoled them. The problem is the media ran a narrative for years which uplifted MJ to GOD status. Now obviously his playstyle and his accomplishments speak for themselves but basketball is a team sport. Pippen complemented Jordan NOT just as a basketball player but as a leader. His polar opposite personality is what kept that Team together. This is why MJ never wanted to play without Phil and wanted to keep Pippen around. Because Phil and Pippen helped Jordan with his major weakness, which was his lack of trust in those around him, his impatience, and his lack of emotional intelligence.
Scottie really took his portrayal in The Last Dance hard. But nothing in there wasn't real. The Last Dance also demonstrated his redemption against Utah. I guess he stopped watching before that episode.
@@Brehon_TalkingFinance No one shitted on Pippen except Pippen himself with all the drama he showed. Everyone in the team knew of his worth. The 90's Bulls were a Jordan and Pippen team, though more Jordan's than Pip's, but that is not saying it any less. As a grown-ass man (with an agent to guide him in Jimmy Sexton), he should have handled his negotiations better. His attitude against the Knicks was pathetic. He purposely delayed his surgery so he can coerce the management regarding his pay. Those were properly documented. Face it, Scottie made questionable actions that bit him later. Didn't MJ do what is greatly considered to be the paramount of praises as a teammate during MJ's HOF speech? Isn't that not respect enough for you? If anything, it was MJ who was supposed to look worse than he already was perceived to be due to how hard and harsh he was to his teammates.
Pip was my fav player as a kid. The older I get the more I realize he just doesn’t make good decisions! I mean look at the chick he chose to marry lol!
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It's okay to like Robin...but Batman (Jordan) is worlds above Pippen. In Portland, Pippen wasn't even really relevant. He was more of an Alfred compared to being a Robin. Trash!
He should bash it. Every Bull teamate except BJ and Steve Kerr for some odd reason was portrayed badly. And of course MJ This is coming from a die hard Bulls / Jordan fan that lived in Chicago and watched every game. Horrible portrayal of those bulls teams.
I didn’t know he quit on his team during a playoff game because Phil gave some other cat the ball for the last shot and the dude made the shot won the game while Scottie was on the bench
Scottie is being knocked because he has always thrown little jabs at MJ. And it's like dude really... if it wasn't for that man you would have at best had a decent NBA career. He literally helped Scottie more than anyone else as far as his NBA career goes and even helped dude with his Nike deal. Scottie is literally in the HOF because of MJ. Obviously Scottie had to put in work, but who was the person that put the battery in his back and challenged him day after day. Scottie has a lot of nerve.
They knocking him because this is what people do. Like there is no1 that couldn’t replace Pippen he played defense on a level that rivaled Jordan. It wasn’t so much the offense it was THE DEFENSE.
@@daweeza42 Scottie flat out said himself that he needed MJ to push him to that next level in the documentary. This dude flops more than a fish out of water lol
@@daweeza42 preach Scottie Pippen been taking shots at Jordan for years and always coming at Zeke Thomas. Yes he played a major role in Championships but, he even said it himself that all everyone is gonna remember Michael Jordan winning Championships not anyone else
@@ivanel12nelita he has never won a single round without him scottie is right. He was not appreciated enough. He was a great defender and created on offense. Nobody is saying he was as good as jordan but he feels like he should have gotten more praise that’s all
Stop interrupting callers just because they disagree with you. You guys won't even let them make their point with out over talking them like 5 seconds in.
I remember Jordan constantly acknowledging how important Pippin was and how much he relied on him...bad look by Scottie being such a bitter dude these days
@@Staymadsports he might not have been his leader but people probably felt like they could talk to Scottie over mj n they said Scottie used to go to the hood and ball mj never did
@@JosePremo0813 that jus makes him a better teammate , everybody knows jordan was a dick and wasnt nice like scottie , but when it came to the game of basketball MJ was never gonna let another player especially one nowhere near as good as him lead him on the court
In 94 Pippen when MJ was playing baseball Pippen was great..living in Chicago I watched most of the games...taking the last second shot was clearly not his thing..he tried to filled them shoes even though the shoe didn't fit...his ego couldn't take playing second fiddle to Kukoc in crunch time who had that clutch gene...it wasn't just that playoff game against NYK...The waiter had his share of buzzer beaters..
Rob is so mad cause people that help others and Rob has helped a ton of people in media and in other things. People get mad when they see others bit the hand that feed them and that's Scottie's unappreative disrespectful ass.
To answer one of the caller’s question, MJ won a NCAA championship, an Olympic gold medal before he played a NBA game & 2 international championships without Scottie.
Jordan’s Tar Heels never even sniffed a championship once it was his team. Kinda like he got his a$$ bounced out of the playoffs for almost a decade until Scottie evolved into a perennial all-star. Be realistic and take off the blinders man. MJ didn’t invent the NBA. He just had the best marketing machine.
@@cole8165 I don't have any blinders. Once again, where does MJ get credit? As a Pippen-like contributor for UNC when he was a freshman or when he was a leader for the Bulls? Also, like I said before, Worthy or Dean Smith didn't win anything until MJ got there. MJ wasn't the greatest ever in the 80's although he was a great talent. He hadn't mastered the game. His "absolute" prime was during the 1st 3peat---where your mental game and bball skills are both very high at the same time. Go back and look at other great players around the ages of 27/28 to 30 and see what they did. Pippen was an all star in 1990 and 1995 but the Bulls still lost so there's no guarantee there either. Nobody said MJ invented the NBA...he was just the best to play in that league. As far as marketing, why didn't other guys like Dominique or Drexler get marketed like that? It goes hand-in-hand...if MJ was just decent, that whole marketing campaign goes down the drain. BUT it stayed away from the drain because.... he did lead the league in scoring 10 straight years, he did go 6-0 in the Finals, he did have two 3peats, he did win Finals MVP every time, he did make 9 all defensive 1st teams, he did make the All star team every year, he did win the All star MVP 3 times, he did lead the league in steals 3 years, he did win MVP 5 times, he did win MVP & DPOY the same year, he did go 12-0 on any biggest stage whether college, NBA, Olympics & other int'l play, he did hit many clutch shots and made many clutch plays, he did play through sickness/injury effectively, he did dominate the league, he did master the game, he did have the will-to-win.
@@cole8165 Exaggeration much? Pippen was still coming off the bench when Jordan won his first playoff series. Was far from being a perennial all star. The truth is sufficient to show that Jordan needed help. No need to exaggerate. However, it wasn't Pippen alone that made the difference.
@@cole8165 u kno why bulls had a top 3 pick right? pippen averaged 8pts rookie yr..wanna go look what jordan averages with bunch of d leaguers. pippen couldnt even average 13 pts in Portland. some allstar
He actually led it 8 years in a row....an nba record and 10 in 14 season. Mind you his streak was broken mostly due to his injury his second season where he missed 70 games. And his retirement for two years and returning with only 17 games left in the season.
@@Runforestrun Actually it was 10 in a row not including retirement years. Every year he played a full season that stretch, he led the league in scoring. Unreal.
Yes he led the league in scoring 10 times which is awesome, but that still needs context. How many shots did he take in comparison to other players? Sometimes it's easier to lead the league in scoring when you take more shots than everyone else.
he got a losing record without Pippen.... playoffs and regular season. Pippen doesn’t have no where near a losing record without Jordan. In addition neither would win multiple championships without each other. Pippen controlled the tempo, before defensively and offensively and forced Jordan to run the triangle offense.
@@onpoint4227 I know MJ was a better player and definitely the most entertaining out of them all, but damn... Pippen really ain’t pissed at Jordan; it’s the media and NBA community that push him down to raise up Jordan. PS: Magic rivals Jordan in the entertainment area.
Pippen's whole career he never got the full respect he deserved because the media saw a compliment to Pippen as an insult to Jordan. That's why the greatest defender of all-time doesn't have one DPOY award. I just find it crazy that years later Pippen is finally getting the credit he deserves, but only to discredit Jordan.
He should have gotten his respect. But he was named one of the top 50 players of all time. However, he wasn't the leader MJ was. He failed on multiple occasions when he could have showed how much of a "Real" leader he was. If it wasn't for MJ, there is no Scottie. MJ was gonna be MJ regardless. Scottie left the Bulls and turned into a guy. When he was at Portland, he wasn't anywhere close to a leader.
@@Avarice-Zero How come when Jordan fans give "credit" to Pip they always start and end with "He's a top 50 player of all time" why not give the man all the credit he deserves, he deserved a dpoy and brought the team to a ecf or semi finals by himself the year Jordan retired lmao.
How is Scottie the greatest defender of all time when Hakeem, Russell, MJ, are in front of the line? Plus Kawhi plays just as good of defense and lead a team in scoring and to the finals.
I'm not buying the narrative that "they could have put any number 2" in the squad like Chris and Rob are pushing. Pip was good for 20 ppg and was the one of the best defensive players in the game.
If Scottie had a bit of the 'Help' MJ had throughout this career, he would have had that call in 94, and possibly would have won the ring; and he would have definitely won with Blazers in 2000 - of course, Stern had decided to invest in Lakers at that point.
People here dont understand what the odd couple were trying to say so let me dissect this. Yes, MJ could not have won without Pippen just like everybody in NBA in history BUT DO NOT GET IT TWISTED! Scottie in his book at least according to the synopsis - he wants to be viewed in the same category as Mike. Well, without him Mike won't be the GOAT and for him he should be viewed in a similar light. I agree with the odd couple. If he cringed at being MJ's sidekick, there was no stopping him from outplaying MJ but he couldn't. He learned from MJ, and there were series where Pippen just wasnt into it and Jordan carried all the burden. No, there is no equality between Jordan and Pippen.
Jordan carried the Bulls in 98 with a 40 year old Rodman who was past his prime and Pippen recovering from a surgery that he should have gotten way earlier. He nearly cost Jordan his 6th championship but MJ wanted it too much and dragged everyone across the finish line. That's why Jordan is the GOAT and why no one can come close to him.
Dammm bro it hurts them so much it’s hilarious. I love how when guys speak out they always say well look what these guys said who played with so and so. But as soon as it’s about Jordan their cheeks get tight.
No it's not "OK", MJ won 6 straight championships by himself with no teammates, no coach, and hit the game winning shot to win every playoff series he ever played in!!! MJ never had a bad game in the Finals and never got out played or out scored by anyone ever in the Finals/Playoffs. MJ was pefect and guarded the best player 100% of the time on every team they he ever faced! MJ didn't need help, he did it all by himself!!!
@@insidejah9293 Literally no one says that.. In fact something Lebron stans consistently about Lebron... If nobody in this comment section watched Jordan and Pippen while they were playing please shut the hell up respectively
chris makes the good point here. “they didn’t win anything without scottie” implies it had to be scottie at #2. 2 could have been clyde drexler and they still coulda won 6
I love scottie pippen and it kinda hurt me that his throwing shade at MJ. But i think Pip is overly praising himself. In '93-'94 season without MJ, he averaged 22 ppg in the reg season and in the playoffs. I dont think thats enough to carry your team in the playoffs. In some occassions, Phil chose Toni Kukoc to shoot the game winner instead of Scottie. But pip still have the right to tell his story and i still hav respect for the man.
Wrong...Pip was the 1st player ever to lead his team in all offensive categories that year. Points, reb, steals, assists, blocks, etc. Since then it's only been Lebron and Kevin Garrett
@@XQnoU Only in the playoffs. 22 ppg, 8.3 rpg 4.6 apg. The bulls still did well bec. they won championships prior to that year. Their confidence and winning attitude persisted in '93-94 season.. Like how the raptors winning 50+ wins in 2020 even after their MVP kawhi left the team. But then it fades away the next year. The bulls record before MJ's return in '94-'95 were 33-32. Then went 14-3 after MJ's return. Nobody denies scottie pippen as a great player and even MJ has admitted that he cant win a championship without Pippen. But lets face it, he's not on the same level as MJ.
Hate that we have to have these types of discussions instead of just appreciating what MJ and Scottie as a duo brought to the game. MJ is the GOAT but Scottie was his right hand man and the second best player on that Bulls team.
@@mannyneva1760 man you have no idea what your talking. In the inside Jordan has a lil man problem. No one can see that but me. So sad he picked on jerry and he’s dead!!
Did you know Scottie Pippen average 11 points in all the NBA finals series. For his career with the bulls he average like 15 points a game. But now he’s the only person that could help Michael Jordan. Stop, insert somebody that can score 11 to 15 points like 70% of the NBA and Jordan would of still won
@@NastyWorks Untrue. Scottie did the dirty work. He was a great defender and allowed MJ to do what he did best: Score. Pippen must’ve been valuable because Jordan NEVER won without him.
@@cole8165 Jordan played his first 3 seasons without him. Stop acting like Jordan didn’t won for 10 straight years and then Pippen came around and changed everything, lol. Pippen was a fuckin bum his first 2 years. Jordan pushed him every day on practice and Scottie slowly became great. Whatever, not Pippen but Phil and Tex were the best thing that happened to this team after Jordan. Tex’s offensive genius and Phil’s defensive and mental genius helped them enormously.
Real talk. I think MJ is the GOAT but the way some of these pundits ride him is absurd. He never made it to the Finals without a prime Pippen. Pip was an absolute beast on the defensive end as well which is something Chris and Rob overlooked.
Think that ppl misinterpret is his mental state to the game, Jordan wasn't just about skills, strength, ball-IQ and all....his biggest asset is mental...and that's what Kobe also possessed. Jordan had to overcome ppl that were superior when he started, but once he overcame those, he was untouchable.
@@gregsomebody7247 What you said is stupid because Jordan never had a team before Pippen came along You fools act as if Jordan had this great team but couldn't get over the hump until superstar Pippen came to save the day No that's not how it happened
Pip was great for sure, all time one of the great ones, but he’s no where near MJ as a player. He’s always been discussed as great player because of being a duo in Chicago. Nobody talks about Scottie after Chicago, that’s because he wasn’t anything special by then
@beanstocks5782 Well this is an idiotic take. He played two seasons on an awful wizards team after a three year layoff at like 38 or 39 years old. Averaged 22.9 ppg and 20.0 ppg at basically 40. He had a 50 point game at 40. So the way he played post Chicago compared to Scottie was not “less special”. But this was a nice try I guess unless one cares about what actually happened and the pesky facts.
When Pip hit his true prime in the league, the SF spot was IN TRANSITION! When Pip first entered the league in 1987, the guys like Bird, Nique, Worthy, English, Aguirre, Dantley, etc. were still in the prime of their careers. The mid 80s were the Golden Era of the SF spot. And a lot those guys were still in their prime when Pip hit the league. When Pip won his first ring in 1991, Nique was the ONLY ONE of those guys still in the prime of his career. Bird's back was giving out and the other guys fell outta their prime. So the SF position wasn't NEARLY as deep in depth when it came to great players at that time. Mullin and Pippen emerged as All Stars right around the same time. So Pip ONLY had Nique and Mullin as superstar future HOF type SF's to battle. So was Pip a great player?? YES!!! But could Pip at his peak WILL the Hawks like Nique did vs. Bird's Celtics in 1988?? Nique pushed that Celtics team to Game 7! The Celtics had WAY MORE TALENT than the Hawks. BUT Nique was such an unstoppable scorer that he took a TREMENDOUS scoring burden off the rest of his teammates. From there they had guys who knew their roles and were key cogs in their own way. So YA Pip was a better defender and passer than Nique. BUT Nique was just as good a rebounder. And was WAYYYY better than Pip scoring the rock. AT one point one of the top 2-3 scorers on the planet!
@@DanielRGonza yeah agree with you. MJ needed Scottie 10.6 points to come out the first wrong. While MJ avg 45.2 hahaha. MJ particularly carried that Bulls team that whole series against the Cavs with back back 50.
@@DanielRGonza Scottie Pippen was only a great role player in Bulls runs to the ECF in 89 and 90. Michael carried that team till Pippen finally came into his own in 91. The fact that he won 0 finals MVP’s while winning 6 championships proves that he was always playing under Jordan’s shadow.
They just pointed out the facts... There is ZERO mistake about it. Pip wasn't on par with Jordan as far as the IMPORTANCE of the chips. People want to make Pippen out to be on the same level as Jordan, Bird, Magic...but please stop it with the bs lol
I was listening to Will Perdue this season during post game and he stated MJ use to kill Scottie in every practice. When Michael left the game he wanted Scottie to do his thing and the most he could get in a season was 22pg and MJ needed a 2 to take defensive pressure off of him. This will backfire on Scottie big time!! When we played LA the shift was made on Magic so as not to tire him bc we needed the offense and Pippen was getting his ass handed to him by Perkins that LA series was Paxson Jordan Brown and the other role players. Where was Pippen??? Phoenix series where was he? He couldn’t out play Dumas Horace Grant Paxson play provided the help where was Pippen?? This was every series Seattle Kemp was killing dude it was Rodman and Jordan show he couldn’t depend on Scottie Blazers he couldn’t guard Drexler Jordan had to switch to shut him down and the Bench outplayed a lot of the starters and I’m not gonna mention the Jazz..Scottie was great but who taught you to play the passing lanes who taught you how to slash when you had no confidence. Jordan was Jordan before you got there if it were not for you we would have beaten Detroit those 2X and for the record ppl forget the season Kukoc was having the year MJ retired
That’s not all true. MJ was picking up early fouls guarding Magic, then the switch was made to Scottie. It wasn’t to save Mike’s energy. We all know MJ is the Goat but let’s not lie to make him better. You can’t say “who taught Pip” like it was all MJ. So who taught MJ? Orlando Wooldrige? Lol. The other series you mentioned a lot of lies as well. MJ started off on Drexler, he didn’t switch off to him after Pip couldn’t guard him. Scottie was guarding Uncle Cliff (rip). Pip also didn’t guard Kemp that was Rodman. I await your reply.
Pippen shot 40% or less in 4 finals and was outscored and out rebounded by by barkle, kemp, and by karl malone twice, him and rodman in the last 3 finals vs seattle and utah.
Scottie Pippen isn't even in the top 20 in Finals ppg avg. (He's 44th) but Bozos want so hard to believe he's as responsible for those chips as Jordan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is more about the facts. He has been being overrated for people debating against MJ in goat debates. These 2 are right on with what they are saying.
I am a die hard Chicago Bulls fans ,before MJ came to the Bulls I was MJ fan from North Carolina days.Scottie I'm big fan also Jordan ,Pippen best two duo ever but Scottie you wrong blood when we needed you in the playoffs you had headaches be real blood wow.
Chris u are 100% right. I’m so sick of 90’s fans and their opinions. If you are not 40+ years and didn’t watch the NBA in the EIGHTIES not just the 90’s then your opinion does not count. It is uninformed. Yes Pip was developed. He did NOT show up in the NBA as a gamer. Not even close. No different than Brad Sellers or Stacey King or any other of the Bulls HELPERS. Mike saw something in Scottie. And with Mikes guidance and his own effort Scottie became a great player. Chris is totally right. Why can’t Scottie just be GRATEFUL as he should be.
Got the layup to cut the deficit to one, got the steal on Malone in the post, then hits the game winner. GOAT ISH!! Made three big time plays within the last minute
@@stevengomez4198 😆😆😆😆 that’s funny…nah from the infamous migraine with the pistons to not playing because the last shot was made to another player to the last year filled with him holding out and having surgery on the team was some questionable things
Those last two callers tho. 😭 Neither of them heard Chris or Rob. Pippen is undoubtedly, one of the top 50 of all time and no one can take his props, however, Pippen is no Batman. Pippen had a role to play as #2, and when he left the Bulls, he confirmed that he could never be a #1. Stop this.
Scottie is trying to get his respect back after being emasculated in "The Last Dance" and I understand it. If I was Jordan I would encourage it for him... Scottie's been thru a lot.
Y'all just stay there in y'all Corners and just try and Cuddle Scottie a mean MJ said he has no " RINGS " without " Scottie " he said all these ppl tlk like I Won those Rings myself but of there wasn't any Scottie there wudnt be any MJ. A mean Michael said it himself in the " Last Dance " so wht else shud he say so y'all sayn Michael Jordan sayn all tht isn't enuff ..... Wow. MJ left and Scottie took the BULLS to the Eastern Conference FINALS no further but yes the Team played good all Season, he went to Portland and had a Great Team not a Team like the Bulls but he lost against L.A he went to the Rockets and he still came up short so again plz tell me sumn tht makes sense.
The biggest thing you guys keep out about Jordan is.. He went through the losses and got beat up early on. Didn't switch teams got better and won 6. That's what makes him great. Won 3 and left to play baseball came back and won 3 in a row.. Didn't ask for any SUPERSTARS to play with.. He's the best I've ever seen on TV PERIOD.
2 minutes in and I absolutely agree with pippen, he stated facts. Update You guys are dead wrong on this one. Yall interpreted that wrong. Before pippen jordan was not winning with pippen he started winning. Nobody said he's on the same level but he was instrumental in those titles
Caller said ya sound like lebron fans and ya get deeper in your feelings. Its a fact that jordan was getting bounced out the first round without scottie.
Jordan didn't need Scottie to get out of the first round you idiot. The Bulls kept getting bounced in the 1st round cuz the team outside Jordan was utter garbage and they were playing in the tougher conference. Go look up Scottie's rookie numbers coming off the bench and you tell me he's the reason Jordan got past the first round. How dumb do you have to be in today's age to still believe this myth lol.
Im sure Mj lead the Bulls to 50 wins with Pip averging 8 points in the regular season and 10 points in the playoffs. Most Lebron fans would consider tht player no help and a "bum". First person who commented was right, you need more context on this other wise they about to cme for your head 🤣🤣🤣
Samuel Washington . Thats like saying I wouldnt have gotten to work if I missed my bus but there will be another one coming by shortly so the one I missed wasn't the one one I could get to work on . Get my drift?
that goes both ways ...Pippen wasn't able to win a ring without MJ leadership and performance also helped too ...it took years for Pippen to developed into the all star he was being around MJ
Jordan always gives Pippen Credit in the public( I don’t know about behind the doors!!but). Google MJ starting 5! And MJ said he would not have won without Pippen.
In reading some of these comments, Chris and Rob are reacting to what PIPPEN SAID IN THE PROMOTION OF HIS BOOK and they are challenging that misled assertion. That is context of their commentary.
as a chitown kid growing up in the nineties we loved scottie. he was robin to mjs batman. they both "saved the day", its just mj (batman) kicked more ass and took out the final boss. lol.
You don’t remember thee whole story…before the first 3-peat Chicago started to hate Scottie and wanted him traded…they also were going to trade him in 95 for Kemp
@@mannyneva1760 they hated him until he carried them to the Eastern conference finals, 1 bad call away from the finals! Lol MJ couldn't do that without Scottie. At least he never did!
@@Dkitt1 fan boy…the Bulls roster was improved from 93 when MJ retired to 94….they added Kukoc etc it wasn’t the same roster from 93 BUT in 95 when Horace Grant left the bulls were headed to the lottery until mlb went on strike and MJ came back and saved Pippen ass….y’all be lying 🤣✌🏽
@@TheBmills415 i love him as well, but he doing what he thinks is right to sell his book. Sad thing is during MJ's HOF speech Scottie was the first person Mike gave flowers to.
Scottie lost his mind, You are rated as a part of the Greatest duo of all time. You just spoiled a great thing. You guys nailed it in this video, many players could have filled that role
I don't mind if MJ said I don't want Isaiah in the Dream team, I don't mind if Larry Bird said I don't want Isaiah joining the team, but PIPPEN? nyahahaha
@@sergeant1446I take it you never played competitive sports. Ribbing is part of it. When MJ told them not to feed Horace Grant, he was joking. He said it, but he didn't say it being serious. But no one reports that. It's just the words in black and white without real context sound bad. Kerr, needed to get punched so he could handle Draymond. Those experiences matter.
This is just a weird argument. Pippen is a great player, but lets not act as if Jordan would have just been completely by himself for his entire career. If there was no Pippen, the Bulls would've found another player to support Jordan. What happens if they draft a dominant center instead? Alonzo Morning? Or Shaq? David Robinson? Or a high level point guard, like Gary Payton, or John Stockton? Like, no offense to Pippen but he's replaceable. Jordan is not. Also, people need to understand, the year Jordan went to go play baseball, it wasn't the same team! Their roster improved. They added key pieces like Toni Kukoc, Luc Longley, Steve Kerr. Horace Grant his his prime and became an allstar, BJ Armstrong became an allstar. That's why they were able to maintain a good record.
Who they would have found the play with him in the 90s players didn't want to play with players like they want to play today they wanted to beat Jordan that's a bad faith argument if it didn't happen then you can't assume that it would have happened with somebody else
@@jarvisjones9529 Jesus, trying to understand what you're trying to say almost gave me an aneurysm. Do they not teach you how to use punctuation in your schools? Of course it would have been someone else. They don't just leave spots empty. Just like when Jordan retired, they were able to acquire a few strong players. They just didn't leave Jordans spot empty.
Scottie Pippen averaged 16 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists for a career and he's considered a top 50 player historically. People have lost their minds!
Kevin love average 8.5 points 6.8 rebounds and 1.3 assist in cavs 2017 chips while bein a liability on defense and Y'all say bron can't win without a super teams lol
@J Black lol ok what the cavs have done since LeBron left he still in his prime only 32 . How many all star, all nba team playoff appearance Kevin love had in 3 years since LeBron left.
@J Black lebron made Kevin love worse but MJ made Scottie better even tho Scottie had career high in everything only player to lead his team in five categories until kg did it for the wolves and finish second in Mvp voting behind hakeem.
I love Scottie Pippen. I'm from the south side of Chicago and watched every single minute of every single game during the dynasty. The simple fact is that the amount of attention that Jordan got on the court gave Pippin room to grow into his own. Jordan could turn on offense and defense like nobody else. You can go and watch Jordan's dunk highlight videos and half of them come off of him stealing the ball. If the other team turned the momentum, you could almost guarantee the Jordan was about to block somebody shot. I'll still say that I would not have traded another player to be in Scottie Pippen's roll. He was awesome and he did amazing things with his situation.
4:40 with the bench tantrum that he threw in Game 3 against the Knicks, he tarnished his legacy. And then he went to Houston, had issues there as well. Went to Portland, and then choked down a 15 point lead in the 4th quarter of Game 7 of the WCF to the Lakers in 2000.
@@thagame7528 well at the age of 39 and 40. And the Wizards were 4th in thr East before Jordan got injured in the 01/02 season. This is after not playing for 3 full seasons. And you are comparing taking time off for a personal tragedy to quitting on his team? A bit desperate aren't you?
@@thagame7528 lol bruh he didn't reach the playoffs. But I think you are a bit thick to understand context or age or injuries. But keep up your desperation.
@@thagame7528 so pippen is the reason bulls won with 16 ppg average..lol...you are an idiot..every team has players..pippen was second fiddle...stop making him more important than he was...
@@natejones8539 I was gonna say that too look at thanos he wanted to be “great” in his own way and at the end his daughter asked him what it cost him “everything” he replied I truly believe the cost of greatness is scarifying what most others won’t
In 94 when he was the man he couldn't get them Over the hump back to the chip. His ppg went up by like 2 in 94 when he was the no1..option. I understand BJ and Horace got a little better. But he wasn't dominate. In 95 bulls were like what a 6 seed b4 MJ came back..pippen is great. He is right without him there are no rings. But the 97 and 98 chips PIP was a shell of himself MJ carried that team to those chips..interested to hear if he will talk about his wife wildin as well..
How are you going to hold it against pippen for not taking the bulls to a chip. Pippen didn't get a second player player to compliment him. If Pippen left MJ and no one came in to replace pippen MJ would have lost in the playoffs. Mj is the better player but let's not act like MJ would have done so much better by himself than pippen
@@Christopher._M this is correct. More an observation. When pip was the man his individual production didn't change that much. Before Pippens rise although MJ teams lost in the playoffs. Individually he was at another level. Pippen is a great 2nd option. But maybe his personality wasn't set to be a killer offensively.
@@depannist Alright sure Pip was still about a top 15-20 player on the league in 97 and 98 thats still great especially knowing it was only because of age lmao
Not sure why Scottie is so insecure, MJ even says in the last dance there are no 6 rings without Scottie, that Scottie is the greatest teammate he’s ever had
I hate the “Jordan didn’t win without Pippen” narrative… MJ didn’t even play without Scottie (no player is expected to win championships on their rookie contract)
Where you from??? Obviously you’re not from Chicago. Where was Scottie against Detroit??? Scottie ass was damn near done here in Chicago bc of his lack of confidence . He didn’t make Cartwright better? Armstrong?? Brian Williams?? Grant??? I can go on
So are you saying Michael should have made Steve Kerr or Bill Cartwright or Horace Grant into Pippen ? Are human beings just lumps of clay that you can mould into anything? Jordan made his teammates better competitors and taught them some skills, but he couldn't turn them into Pippen, because they were never born to be Pippen in the first place, and most of them didn't even play SF
Dude has every right to speak his peace. Imagine being the 2nd best player on a team with the greatest player to ever play. That kind of shadow can swallow you whole. I don’t care who you are, that had to be tough, particularly as a young man. I feel him. People can say what they want, but this guy was one of the best two way players to ever grace the court.
@@azraelsoluna110 He is not the reason for MJ's Success. He became the missing piece for them to win a Chip. These are 2 different things, don't mistake one for the other. Michael was already a Success, everyone knew him and the league were always trying to stop him. Any other good player like Scottie in the league at that time would have helped win the chip.
Scottie trippin, remember Jordan vetoed that trade for TMAC or Shawn Kemp coming to the bulls for pippen. ( one of them could of been a Bulls) Pippen wild for this.
Jordan has always given Pip his flowers. On the Dream Team he picked Pip first in scrimmages to be on his team. But when he came into the league he was soft that was his rep. In practice M.J made sure he was defended by Pippen. Who cares what the media says if the GOAT says you helped make him the GOAT.
Great point!
Thank you glad you pointed tht out Scottie is not on the Dream team if he ain’t jordan teammate
Believe all racists!
Naw Mike really put Scottie down in the last dance…… said a lot of bad stuff about Scottie that I didn’t know.
Def, dude continually fails to see his own value.. I guess that’s what happens when you’re as good as pip was but you’re stuck in the shadow of the greatest to ever play your sport your whole career.
Come on guys, his book is called Unguarded. Scottie is already giving Mike props for all the double teams he drew 😂
Lmmaoooo
What double team did Mike get during his first retirement 🤔
@@mistanomercy5245 he did for 12 seasons
Lol
you wrong for that
MJ said in his Hall of Fame speech that there would be no Michael Jordan without Scottie Pippen.
So this blurb is right but there's a bit of hyperbole to sell the book. Let's keep a level head until we get an opportunity to read the book
He even mentioned in the last dance that he didn't win any championship without scottie.
Smart
I think Scottie is hurt about is bad contract.
@@taoman85 ....but that was his fault they told him not to sign it
@@redmanjohnson4616 Oh I know. I think that's a bad agent, and he wasn't smart enough. Think how young pro athletes are. It was his mistake and couldn't own it.
Mike literally said “Without Scottie, i wouldn’t be here and there would be no 6 championships” like what else you want the man to say???
Exactly
@@adrianprince7266 instead of going at Mike he need to go at Future for literally piping his ol lady while she still has his last name 🤦🏾♂️
I guess he didn't want ANY criticism or negative points brought up. Jordan can take criticism, Pip apparently, not so much.
How u gon tell dat man how to feel
@@DC4L1991 Well, he need to sell a book. Complementing mike is cliche and not gonna attract much attention.
“He helped me so much in the way I approached the game, the way I played the game. Whenever they speak Michael Jordan, they should speak Scottie Pippen. When everybody says, well, I won all these championships, but I didn’t win without Scottie Pippen. That’s why I consider him my best teammate of all time.” Quoted by MJ.
So pippen coming out now after Michael said that, makes pippen look even worse.
@@adrianprince7266 I understand why Pippen is mad. But fam that is part of the game, I know some year can be bad, Rough & sometime awful. But is ok because you did something that only a few players did in NBA history.
@@adrianprince7266 it sure doesn't help. Mike rightly praised him, but he can't take a little bit of heat. A little that was at least somewhat self inflicted?
@@adrianprince7266 he said that at his hall of fame speech. he was the first person he thought of
That was MJ tho. Always building his teammates up & given props where deserved, although he would crush them behind closed doors. He liked how scottie played his role better than anyone.
The documentary was more than fair to Pippen and the tag line is something MJ has said himself. These descriptions are to encourage people to by the book.
I like Pippen but he acts like a little bitch sometimes. Jordan gave more than enough praise to Pippen during their playing days and after. Pippen gets upset about something in The Last Dance that he did, it’s not like he didn’t do it.
From what I pieced together from reading about the book: Scottie is saying he was an essential element of the Bulls championship teams. Without him they would not have won. He is not saying they could have won without Michael. My guess is he is going to say that he was the leader the other players talked too. He was the good cop to Michael's bad cop. I'm not saying I agree with Scottie but he isn't saying he was as good as Jordan player as a player. Again, I could be wrong, we will see when the book is released.
Astute.
everything that scottie said is true and EVERYONE knows it already so what is he trying to say exactly? i'm confused, he's just regurgitating what's already been said about him...
@@windridermach Pippen was lucky to play with Jordan If he never got traded to the bulls We wouldn't even know who Pippen was so Pippen needs to be thankful
Pippen averaged 15.7 on 34% in the 96' Finals... This is just 1 of MANY series where Pippen was horrible, but no one noticed or cared because only 1 man was responsible for winning - MJ... Pippen averaged 17/7/5 on 41% for the entire 96-98' Playoffs, and 19.0 on 42% in 6 Finals... He simply never led... He's just a liar and a low-producing bum that Jordan carried.. Pippen had a .500 ballclub in 95' before MJ returned to carry Pippen to another 3-peat in his first full seasons back.
And anyone decent wins alongside Jordan.. Stockton/Malone were basically B2B champs in 97/98, so Stockton/MJ would win every year.. Stockton had twice as many All-NBA as Pippen.. Smits/Miller nearly beat the 98' Bulls and made the 00' Finals, so Smits/MJ win every year... Etc, etc..
I've done research for years about Pippen's impact on the team and what you said is exactly what my research says. Steve Kerr described Pippen as his favorite teammate. Most of the players said when Mike retired and Pippen was the leader they had the most fun playing basketball. As people found out in the Documentary ( I already knew) MJ was extremely hard on his teammates. As you so eloquently stated they often talked to Pippen and he consoled them. The problem is the media ran a narrative for years which uplifted MJ to GOD status. Now obviously his playstyle and his accomplishments speak for themselves but basketball is a team sport. Pippen complemented Jordan NOT just as a basketball player but as a leader. His polar opposite personality is what kept that Team together. This is why MJ never wanted to play without Phil and wanted to keep Pippen around. Because Phil and Pippen helped Jordan with his major weakness, which was his lack of trust in those around him, his impatience, and his lack of emotional intelligence.
Scottie really took his portrayal in The Last Dance hard. But nothing in there wasn't real. The Last Dance also demonstrated his redemption against Utah. I guess he stopped watching before that episode.
They shitted on Scottie.. Scottie deserves more respect!!!!
Bruh in 98 he missed half the season and was irrelevant in the playoffs especially the finals…Pippen overrated af
@@Brehon_TalkingFinance No one shitted on Pippen except Pippen himself with all the drama he showed. Everyone in the team knew of his worth. The 90's Bulls were a Jordan and Pippen team, though more Jordan's than Pip's, but that is not saying it any less. As a grown-ass man (with an agent to guide him in Jimmy Sexton), he should have handled his negotiations better. His attitude against the Knicks was pathetic. He purposely delayed his surgery so he can coerce the management regarding his pay. Those were properly documented. Face it, Scottie made questionable actions that bit him later. Didn't MJ do what is greatly considered to be the paramount of praises as a teammate during MJ's HOF speech? Isn't that not respect enough for you? If anything, it was MJ who was supposed to look worse than he already was perceived to be due to how hard and harsh he was to his teammates.
The last dance spoke on scottie not wanting to play. MJ wasnt even on the team that year.
@@eastgate6134 it was to show dummies like you that he ended up quitting in the playoffs on his team while being the leader 😂
Pip was my fav player as a kid. The older I get the more I realize he just doesn’t make good decisions! I mean look at the chick he chose to marry lol!
Ikon at MJ second or 3 rd wife.
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It's okay to like Robin...but Batman (Jordan) is worlds above Pippen. In Portland, Pippen wasn't even really relevant. He was more of an Alfred compared to being a Robin. Trash!
Don’t forget the ✈️ he wasted a Million dollars on
@@allenevans622
Michael Jordan has only been married twice.
He's happily married to his beautiful Cuban wife since April 27, 2013.
This isn't the first time he has said how he felt about the lack of credit he received. Scottie also bashed the Last Dance Doc.
Yeah, he did. And I agree with him for doing it.
Nothing on the doc that was said was a lie.
He should bash it. Every Bull teamate except BJ and Steve Kerr for some odd reason was portrayed badly. And of course MJ
This is coming from a die hard Bulls / Jordan fan that lived in Chicago and watched every game.
Horrible portrayal of those bulls teams.
True. Everything that was shown happened.
I didn’t know he quit on his team during a playoff game because Phil gave some other cat the ball for the last shot and the dude made the shot won the game while Scottie was on the bench
I don't get why they knocking Scottie and nobody read the book. Could you at least blast the book
Right. Rob & Chris got some nerve.
Scottie is being knocked because he has always thrown little jabs at MJ. And it's like dude really... if it wasn't for that man you would have at best had a decent NBA career. He literally helped Scottie more than anyone else as far as his NBA career goes and even helped dude with his Nike deal. Scottie is literally in the HOF because of MJ. Obviously Scottie had to put in work, but who was the person that put the battery in his back and challenged him day after day. Scottie has a lot of nerve.
They knocking him because this is what people do. Like there is no1 that couldn’t replace Pippen he played defense on a level that rivaled Jordan. It wasn’t so much the offense it was THE DEFENSE.
@@daweeza42 Scottie flat out said himself that he needed MJ to push him to that next level in the documentary.
This dude flops more than a fish out of water lol
@@daweeza42 preach Scottie Pippen been taking shots at Jordan for years and always coming at Zeke Thomas. Yes he played a major role in Championships but, he even said it himself that all everyone is gonna remember Michael Jordan winning Championships not anyone else
This show is literally the “Niggas Hollerin” interlude from Little Brother’s last album lol
D-e-a-d💀 😂 😆 😂
Hahaha
"the man had glasses on the court..thought it was 10 niggas guardin him"
“Who stopped you!??”-Rob Parker 😂😂
Facts lols MJ won the scoring title in the league 10 straight years 😭😭
Have MJ win a chip without scottie. Stop it.
@@ivanel12nelita *staph it! - rob Parker voice*
@@ivanel12nelita he has never won a single round without him scottie is right. He was not appreciated enough. He was a great defender and created on offense. Nobody is saying he was as good as jordan but he feels like he should have gotten more praise that’s all
@@ivanel12nelita mj won tons of individual awards b4 scottie and with scottie. That's the difference
Stop interrupting callers just because they disagree with you. You guys won't even let them make their point with out over talking them like 5 seconds in.
Best said.
When they have one they’ll be heard 💯🤷🏽♂️
Because they are saying nonsense like TOD in 15:00 mark
Him Stephen A and others act if u can't something bad bout Michael Jordan like he was douche of a teammate
It's their show they can do whatever they want.
I remember Jordan constantly acknowledging how important Pippin was and how much he relied on him...bad look by Scottie being such a bitter dude these days
“Pippin is trippin” should be trending lmao! Mike literally gave him love/ flowers in the Last Dance.
after future, his divorce, malik monk, the last dance, pip just messed up now.
Scottie tell yo side of the story..... ok
Them: he lyin 😭
Facts smfh
We all know that Scottie is trying to sell a book. MJ was too alpha and too dominant in the sport to have Pipen as his leader. Stop it!!!
@@Staymadsports he might not have been his leader but people probably felt like they could talk to Scottie over mj n they said Scottie used to go to the hood and ball mj never did
@@JosePremo0813 that jus makes him a better teammate , everybody knows jordan was a dick and wasnt nice like scottie , but when it came to the game of basketball MJ was never gonna let another player especially one nowhere near as good as him lead him on the court
@@moneyman9295 just cuz U the best player don’t mean u the locker room leader
I'mma say this Michael Jordan is the greatest ever but Michael needed ScottIe and Scottie needed Michael 6 championships 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀 undefeated
No one wants to admit this.
@@FABCasso thanks
@@FABCasso um you dummies realize Jordan said it HIMSELF right?
Michael has said that since forever.. he partly retired because and and phil and scottie were’t coming back
@@FABCasso MJ didnt need scottie in particular he just needed help just like Bird and Magic needed help
In 94 Pippen when MJ was playing baseball Pippen was great..living in Chicago I watched most of the games...taking the last second shot was clearly not his thing..he tried to filled them shoes even though the shoe didn't fit...his ego couldn't take playing second fiddle to Kukoc in crunch time who had that clutch gene...it wasn't just that playoff game against NYK...The waiter had his share of buzzer beaters..
Finally...so true!
And they can’t win without MJ🤣🤣🤣
@@aljilhano5822 and MJ can't win without them so what's your point.
@@mackchris1390 that Mike was the reason for the season.
@@jacklane7489 but he had what 7 seasons before Scottie got there to win yet he didn't.
Why Rob sound so mad Scottie can feel how he feels
rob...... rob is just ugly man.
Scottie can feel how ever he wants, doesn’t make him right though…
Not allowed to talk bad on Jordan
Rob is so mad cause people that help others and Rob has helped a ton of people in media and in other things. People get mad when they see others bit the hand that feed them and that's Scottie's unappreative disrespectful ass.
We also have the right to criticize him. Do you even know how free speech works my guy?
To answer one of the caller’s question, MJ won a NCAA championship, an Olympic gold medal before he played a NBA game & 2 international championships without Scottie.
Worthy was the best player on that college team
Jordan never made a final 4 as the best player
Jordan’s Tar Heels never even sniffed a championship once it was his team. Kinda like he got his a$$ bounced out of the playoffs for almost a decade until Scottie evolved into a perennial all-star. Be realistic and take off the blinders man. MJ didn’t invent the NBA. He just had the best marketing machine.
@@cole8165 I don't have any blinders. Once again, where does MJ get credit? As a Pippen-like contributor for UNC when he was a freshman or when he was a leader for the Bulls? Also, like I said before, Worthy or Dean Smith didn't win anything until MJ got there.
MJ wasn't the greatest ever in the 80's although he was a great talent. He hadn't mastered the game. His "absolute" prime was during the 1st 3peat---where your mental game and bball skills are both very high at the same time. Go back and look at other great players around the ages of 27/28 to 30 and see what they did.
Pippen was an all star in 1990 and 1995 but the Bulls still lost so there's no guarantee there either.
Nobody said MJ invented the NBA...he was just the best to play in that league.
As far as marketing, why didn't other guys like Dominique or Drexler get marketed like that? It goes hand-in-hand...if MJ was just decent, that whole marketing campaign goes down the drain.
BUT it stayed away from the drain because....
he did lead the league in scoring 10 straight years,
he did go 6-0 in the Finals,
he did have two 3peats,
he did win Finals MVP every time,
he did make 9 all defensive 1st teams,
he did make the All star team every year,
he did win the All star MVP 3 times,
he did lead the league in steals 3 years,
he did win MVP 5 times,
he did win MVP & DPOY the same year,
he did go 12-0 on any biggest stage whether college, NBA, Olympics & other int'l play,
he did hit many clutch shots and made many clutch plays,
he did play through sickness/injury effectively,
he did dominate the league,
he did master the game,
he did have the will-to-win.
@@cole8165 Exaggeration much? Pippen was still coming off the bench when Jordan won his first playoff series. Was far from being a perennial all star. The truth is sufficient to show that Jordan needed help. No need to exaggerate. However, it wasn't Pippen alone that made the difference.
@@cole8165 u kno why bulls had a top 3 pick right? pippen averaged 8pts rookie yr..wanna go look what jordan averages with bunch of d leaguers. pippen couldnt even average 13 pts in Portland. some allstar
"insert jordan meme laughing at the laptop"
iPad *
I grew up in that time and yes I can see he is a con man behind the scenes. I have seen so many whole in that documentary omg
He played for central Arkansas... Steph played for Davidson 😒
Karl Malone played for a small school in Louisiana?
Alot of players back then didn't come from the Power 5 conferences
"Michael led the league in scoring 10 years in a row"
Damn that ish hits hard.
Asf
He actually led it 8 years in a row....an nba record and 10 in 14 season.
Mind you his streak was broken mostly due to his injury his second season where he missed 70 games. And his retirement for two years and returning with only 17 games left in the season.
@@Runforestrun Actually it was 10 in a row not including retirement years. Every year he played a full season that stretch, he led the league in scoring. Unreal.
@@joeface03 they told him, u cant be scoring champion n win the finals. now we all kno what happened
Yes he led the league in scoring 10 times which is awesome, but that still needs context. How many shots did he take in comparison to other players? Sometimes it's easier to lead the league in scoring when you take more shots than everyone else.
Some of these analysts act like Jordan literally never lost a game
Facts
he got a losing record without Pippen.... playoffs and regular season. Pippen doesn’t have no where near a losing record without Jordan.
In addition neither would win multiple championships without each other. Pippen controlled the tempo, before defensively and offensively and forced Jordan to run the triangle offense.
These MJ nut huggers are toxic & that got the never to talk about bron fans lol smh
They think he only played 6 years
@@onpoint4227 I know MJ was a better player and definitely the most entertaining out of them all, but damn... Pippen really ain’t pissed at Jordan; it’s the media and NBA community that push him down to raise up Jordan.
PS: Magic rivals Jordan in the entertainment area.
I love this, Pippen drove the bus up to Jordan's house, threw him under the bus and backed over him. Wow!!!!
Pippen drove over himself.
@@adrianprince7266 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He needs to worry about his wife leaving him for subpar rappers.
If the bulls would have traded Scottie to get Mcgrady I still see the bulls winning championships.
Or Shawn Kemp!
Not true.
Pippen's whole career he never got the full respect he deserved because the media saw a compliment to Pippen as an insult to Jordan. That's why the greatest defender of all-time doesn't have one DPOY award. I just find it crazy that years later Pippen is finally getting the credit he deserves, but only to discredit Jordan.
He should have gotten his respect. But he was named one of the top 50 players of all time. However, he wasn't the leader MJ was. He failed on multiple occasions when he could have showed how much of a "Real" leader he was. If it wasn't for MJ, there is no Scottie. MJ was gonna be MJ regardless. Scottie left the Bulls and turned into a guy. When he was at Portland, he wasn't anywhere close to a leader.
@@Avarice-Zero How come when Jordan fans give "credit" to Pip they always start and end with "He's a top 50 player of all time" why not give the man all the credit he deserves, he deserved a dpoy and brought the team to a ecf or semi finals by himself the year Jordan retired lmao.
Its alot of players that had better stats than Pippen. Any star could fill that spot.
How is Scottie the greatest defender of all time when Hakeem, Russell, MJ, are in front of the line? Plus Kawhi plays just as good of defense and lead a team in scoring and to the finals.
@@tawaganie12 facts
I'm not buying the narrative that "they could have put any number 2" in the squad like Chris and Rob are pushing. Pip was good for 20 ppg and was the one of the best defensive players in the game.
Exactly! Pippen could rebound, score, and more importantly defend the best players on the opposite team.
He didn't go out of his role either.
Greg Somebody Pippen was not irreplaceable . If the bulls had a great center they wouldn't have needed pippen
Bullshit, take pippen out add Ron Harper. Bulls still win 6
@@bobbymoore2076 Yeah a prime Harper was better than Pippen
If Scottie had a bit of the 'Help' MJ had throughout this career, he would have had that call in 94, and possibly would have won the ring; and he would have definitely won with Blazers in 2000 - of course, Stern had decided to invest in Lakers at that point.
People here dont understand what the odd couple were trying to say so let me dissect this.
Yes, MJ could not have won without Pippen just like everybody in NBA in history BUT DO NOT GET IT TWISTED! Scottie in his book at least according to the synopsis - he wants to be viewed in the same category as Mike. Well, without him Mike won't be the GOAT and for him he should be viewed in a similar light. I agree with the odd couple. If he cringed at being MJ's sidekick, there was no stopping him from outplaying MJ but he couldn't. He learned from MJ, and there were series where Pippen just wasnt into it and Jordan carried all the burden. No, there is no equality between Jordan and Pippen.
Jordan carried the Bulls in 98 with a 40 year old Rodman who was past his prime and Pippen recovering from a surgery that he should have gotten way earlier. He nearly cost Jordan his 6th championship but MJ wanted it too much and dragged everyone across the finish line. That's why Jordan is the GOAT and why no one can come close to him.
Jordan himself said this. In the doc, during hof speech, various interviews, etc. He's trying to sell books.
Dammm bro it hurts them so much it’s hilarious. I love how when guys speak out they always say well look what these guys said who played with so and so. But as soon as it’s about Jordan their cheeks get tight.
Exactly people give LeBron teammates more props more than they give LeBron.
@@markjones1550 lebron gives his team mates zero credit that's why other ppl have to do it
LEBRON PLAYS WITH TOP 5 PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE JORDAN DIDNT HAVE TOP 5 PLAYERS ON HIS TEAM CLOWN
LeBron has to have another all star player with him or doesn’t win. He doesn’t feel secure unless he stacks the deck
Is Jordan a mob boss?
This segment is a reach... a whole lot of "ifs" in the arguments. It's ok, MJ can be the goat and have help lol
No it's not "OK", MJ won 6 straight championships by himself with no teammates, no coach, and hit the game winning shot to win every playoff series he ever played in!!! MJ never had a bad game in the Finals and never got out played or out scored by anyone ever in the Finals/Playoffs. MJ was pefect and guarded the best player 100% of the time on every team they he ever faced! MJ didn't need help, he did it all by himself!!!
@@insidejah9293 🤣🤣🤣 bro wtf
@@MayIOwnYou Must Be A Bronsexual
@@insidejah9293 Literally no one says that.. In fact something Lebron stans consistently about Lebron... If nobody in this comment section watched Jordan and Pippen while they were playing please shut the hell up respectively
@@MINK2393 the film don't lie. 🎥
chris makes the good point here. “they didn’t win anything without scottie” implies it had to be scottie at #2. 2 could have been clyde drexler and they still coulda won 6
Clyde couldn’t defend or distribute like Scottie. Bulls didn’t need what Clyde would bring. Cut it out
I love scottie pippen and it kinda hurt me that his throwing shade at MJ. But i think Pip is overly praising himself. In '93-'94 season without MJ, he averaged 22 ppg in the reg season and in the playoffs. I dont think thats enough to carry your team in the playoffs. In some occassions, Phil chose Toni Kukoc to shoot the game winner instead of Scottie. But pip still have the right to tell his story and i still hav respect for the man.
Wrong...Pip was the 1st player ever to lead his team in all offensive categories that year. Points, reb, steals, assists, blocks, etc. Since then it's only been Lebron and Kevin Garrett
Wasn't Pippen an MVP candidate that year?????
@@XQnoU Only in the playoffs. 22 ppg, 8.3 rpg 4.6 apg. The bulls still did well bec. they won championships prior to that year. Their confidence and winning attitude persisted in '93-94 season.. Like how the raptors winning 50+ wins in 2020 even after their MVP kawhi left the team. But then it fades away the next year. The bulls record before MJ's return in '94-'95 were 33-32. Then went 14-3 after MJ's return. Nobody denies scottie pippen as a great player and even MJ has admitted that he cant win a championship without Pippen. But lets face it, he's not on the same level as MJ.
Scottie Pippen bailed out when he had a headache .. MJ had stepped up in the Flu (food poisoning) Game...
Hate that we have to have these types of discussions instead of just appreciating what MJ and Scottie as a duo brought to the game. MJ is the GOAT but Scottie was his right hand man and the second best player on that Bulls team.
During the first 3-peat run and before Horace was more valuable and reliable
No player will ever get full appreciation in this era of social media sports reporting. It started with kobe laters years and wont stop now
Man all around players gets your team going and that wasn’t mike
@@scottmac2338 you crazy af…MJ had no flaws and Pippen was a bum 7ntil he started training with MJ…this is a fact
@@mannyneva1760 man you have no idea what your talking. In the inside Jordan has a lil man problem. No one can see that but me. So sad he picked on jerry and he’s dead!!
University of Central Arkansas is not a junior college. It's not a D1 university, but it's a legit university.
Yes! Plus Chris went to D3 school....he has no room to talk.....😏😏
@@cooperscreditconsultingint6792 its weird u felt the need to google the man 😆😆
I need ya to have this energy for the GOAT “ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE!”… nobody should be mentioned with His Airness
I cant believe they got the nerve to really shut this down like Scottie just lying straight up like what
Because they lived it and they are 100% right only people that disagree are Lebron stans that weren’t even alive
@@MINK2393 or how about he never brung it up until now and the fact that jordan said something similar to this 🤧
Did you know Scottie Pippen average 11 points in all the NBA finals series. For his career with the bulls he average like 15 points a game. But now he’s the only person that could help Michael Jordan. Stop, insert somebody that can score 11 to 15 points like 70% of the NBA and Jordan would of still won
@@NastyWorks Untrue. Scottie did the dirty work. He was a great defender and allowed MJ to do what he did best: Score. Pippen must’ve been valuable because Jordan NEVER won without him.
@@cole8165 Jordan played his first 3 seasons without him. Stop acting like Jordan didn’t won for 10 straight years and then Pippen came around and changed everything, lol. Pippen was a fuckin bum his first 2 years. Jordan pushed him every day on practice and Scottie slowly became great. Whatever, not Pippen but Phil and Tex were the best thing that happened to this team after Jordan. Tex’s offensive genius and Phil’s defensive and mental genius helped them enormously.
The legend of Jordan has surpassed the man himself. I swear they made this dude untouchable.
Real talk. I think MJ is the GOAT but the way some of these pundits ride him is absurd. He never made it to the Finals without a prime Pippen. Pip was an absolute beast on the defensive end as well which is something Chris and Rob overlooked.
U dont even know what ur talking about kid🤫
Think that ppl misinterpret is his mental state to the game, Jordan wasn't just about skills, strength, ball-IQ and all....his biggest asset is mental...and that's what Kobe also possessed. Jordan had to overcome ppl that were superior when he started, but once he overcame those, he was untouchable.
Emmanuel John Turner Jordan is about equal to his legend . He lives up to his legend more than anyone else lives up to their legend.
@@gregsomebody7247 What you said is stupid because Jordan never had a team before Pippen came along You fools act as if Jordan had this great team but couldn't get over the hump until superstar Pippen came to save the day No that's not how it happened
They changed the whole argument to sh*t on Scottie.
Exactly! The go along, get along gang at its finest!
Scottie delusional. He wont be top 50 in 5 years
@@TheDarkRomantic1 someone is reading, " Mama's cooking".
As they should've
Scottie has been shitting on Jordan, way before the Last Dance
Pip was great for sure, all time one of the great ones, but he’s no where near MJ as a player. He’s always been discussed as great player because of being a duo in Chicago. Nobody talks about Scottie after Chicago, that’s because he wasn’t anything special by then
Jordan was nothing special outside of Chicago either. In fact, he was less special than Scottie
@beanstocks5782 Well this is an idiotic take. He played two seasons on an awful wizards team after a three year layoff at like 38 or 39 years old. Averaged 22.9 ppg and 20.0 ppg at basically 40. He had a 50 point game at 40. So the way he played post Chicago compared to Scottie was not “less special”. But this was a nice try I guess unless one cares about what actually happened and the pesky facts.
When Pip hit his true prime in the league, the SF spot was IN TRANSITION! When Pip first entered the league in 1987, the guys like Bird, Nique, Worthy, English, Aguirre, Dantley, etc. were still in the prime of their careers. The mid 80s were the Golden Era of the SF spot. And a lot those guys were still in their prime when Pip hit the league.
When Pip won his first ring in 1991, Nique was the ONLY ONE of those guys still in the prime of his career. Bird's back was giving out and the other guys fell outta their prime. So the SF position wasn't NEARLY as deep in depth when it came to great players at that time. Mullin and Pippen emerged as All Stars right around the same time. So Pip ONLY had Nique and Mullin as superstar future HOF type SF's to battle.
So was Pip a great player?? YES!!! But could Pip at his peak WILL the Hawks like Nique did vs. Bird's Celtics in 1988?? Nique pushed that Celtics team to Game 7! The Celtics had WAY MORE TALENT than the Hawks. BUT Nique was such an unstoppable scorer that he took a TREMENDOUS scoring burden off the rest of his teammates. From there they had guys who knew their roles and were key cogs in their own way. So YA Pip was a better defender and passer than Nique. BUT Nique was just as good a rebounder. And was WAYYYY better than Pip scoring the rock. AT one point one of the top 2-3 scorers on the planet!
Pippin is not better than mchale as a sidekick...
What about Jordan competition at the two guard
Scottie Pippen acts like Michael Jordan didn’t give his accolades. This what ungratefulness looks like.
MJ ain’t MJ without him dude couldn’t even get out the first round
Blame the media. People like skip says mj never need pippen
@@DanielRGonza yeah agree with you. MJ needed Scottie 10.6 points to come out the first wrong. While MJ avg 45.2 hahaha. MJ particularly carried that Bulls team that whole series against the Cavs with back back 50.
@@DanielRGonza Scottie Pippen was only a great role player in Bulls runs to the ECF in 89 and 90. Michael carried that team till Pippen finally came into his own in 91.
The fact that he won 0 finals MVP’s while winning 6 championships proves that he was always playing under Jordan’s shadow.
@@timmaz24s mj no championships without pippen you clown that's fact!🤣🤣🤣
Go along get along gang. Mommas cooking opened my eyes.
Ren and Stimpy
You sound like the tin foil hat type of guy😂😂
@@hip-hopfan9153 lol
They just pointed out the facts... There is ZERO mistake about it. Pip wasn't on par with Jordan as far as the IMPORTANCE of the chips. People want to make Pippen out to be on the same level as Jordan, Bird, Magic...but please stop it with the bs lol
Chris' rant on this is top tier!
Rip Kobe
Just think if Kobe and MJ played together....oooowheee!
I was listening to Will Perdue this season during post game and he stated MJ use to kill Scottie in every practice. When Michael left the game he wanted Scottie to do his thing and the most he could get in a season was 22pg and MJ needed a 2 to take defensive pressure off of him. This will backfire on Scottie big time!! When we played LA the shift was made on Magic so as not to tire him bc we needed the offense and Pippen was getting his ass handed to him by Perkins that LA series was Paxson Jordan Brown and the other role players. Where was Pippen??? Phoenix series where was he? He couldn’t out play Dumas Horace Grant Paxson play provided the help where was Pippen?? This was every series Seattle Kemp was killing dude it was Rodman and Jordan show he couldn’t depend on Scottie Blazers he couldn’t guard Drexler Jordan had to switch to shut him down and the Bench outplayed a lot of the starters and I’m not gonna mention the Jazz..Scottie was great but who taught you to play the passing lanes who taught you how to slash when you had no confidence. Jordan was Jordan before you got there if it were not for you we would have beaten Detroit those 2X and for the record ppl forget the season Kukoc was having the year MJ retired
Exactly. 💯
That’s not all true. MJ was picking up early fouls guarding Magic, then the switch was made to Scottie. It wasn’t to save Mike’s energy. We all know MJ is the Goat but let’s not lie to make him better. You can’t say “who taught Pip” like it was all MJ. So who taught MJ? Orlando Wooldrige? Lol. The other series you mentioned a lot of lies as well. MJ started off on Drexler, he didn’t switch off to him after Pip couldn’t guard him. Scottie was guarding Uncle Cliff (rip). Pip also didn’t guard Kemp that was Rodman. I await your reply.
@Vain Freeland Exactly. Dude making lies up.
Pippen shot 40% or less in 4 finals and was outscored and out rebounded by by barkle, kemp, and by karl malone twice, him and rodman in the last 3 finals vs seattle and utah.
Thats history, numbers dont lie, he was the ball handler, he had his chance to be an mvp, why pass the ball? Take a chance some times.
Scottie Pippen isn't even in the top 20 in Finals ppg avg. (He's 44th) but Bozos want so hard to believe he's as responsible for those chips as Jordan 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jordan couldn’t win the championship by himself. It’s a team effort when are y’all Jordan fans going to realize that.
This is such a stupid thing to say. Every champion had good teammates.@@cecildison6788
Here comes everyone riding in to protect Jordan at all costs lmao
Boy I’m telling you the way they ride for Jordan it’s crazy 🤣🤣🤣
They really do love to ride him. Getting all sensitive about it 😂
Now if kyrie came out with a book about 2016, y'all would be all over him discrediting him
@@m.j.w.2876 Right. It’s clear who they ride for.
This is more about the facts. He has been being overrated for people debating against MJ in goat debates. These 2 are right on with what they are saying.
"There is no Michael Jordan without Scottie Pippen"
-- Michael freaking Jordan
This one of your best shows ever guys big up...
I am a die hard Chicago Bulls fans ,before MJ came to the Bulls I was MJ fan from North Carolina days.Scottie I'm big fan also Jordan ,Pippen best two duo ever but Scottie you wrong blood when we needed you in the playoffs you had headaches be real blood wow.
Chris u are 100% right. I’m so sick of 90’s fans and their opinions. If you are not 40+ years and didn’t watch the NBA in the EIGHTIES not just the 90’s then your opinion does not count. It is uninformed. Yes Pip was developed. He did NOT show up in the NBA as a gamer. Not even close. No different than Brad Sellers or Stacey King or any other of the Bulls HELPERS. Mike saw something in Scottie. And with Mikes guidance and his own effort Scottie became a great player. Chris is totally right. Why can’t Scottie just be GRATEFUL as he should be.
If you watched the last 3 mins of bulls vs jazz 1998 game 6 it will show you who the leader is…
Damn. 3 minutes out of 11 seasons,huh?🤡🤡🤡
Got the layup to cut the deficit to one, got the steal on Malone in the post, then hits the game winner. GOAT ISH!! Made three big time plays within the last minute
@@stevengomez4198 😆😆😆😆 that’s funny…nah from the infamous migraine with the pistons to not playing because the last shot was made to another player to the last year filled with him holding out and having surgery on the team was some questionable things
@@stevengomez4198 just the moments that counted. Pippen ran the offense early in games. Jordan ran the offense when the games were close.
Glad you mentioned that Game 6. Now go watch Game 7 and tell me who “saved” his Heirness. Jordan stans are something else.
Mike and Pippen was the freakin magic duo of all times....
Mike and Pippen were to basketball, what Dr. Dre and Snoop Dog were to hip hop!!!
Just found your show. I'm subscribed. Good job fellas.
Those last two callers tho. 😭 Neither of them heard Chris or Rob. Pippen is undoubtedly, one of the top 50 of all time and no one can take his props, however, Pippen is no Batman. Pippen had a role to play as #2, and when he left the Bulls, he confirmed that he could never be a #1. Stop this.
Scottie is trying to get his respect back after being emasculated in "The Last Dance" and I understand it. If I was Jordan I would encourage it for him... Scottie's been thru a lot.
Not just last dance but dude later on in the FUTURE stole his girl too. Man must be boiling inside
Y'all just stay there in y'all Corners and just try and Cuddle Scottie a mean MJ said he has no " RINGS " without " Scottie " he said all these ppl tlk like I Won those Rings myself but of there wasn't any Scottie there wudnt be any MJ. A mean Michael said it himself in the " Last Dance " so wht else shud he say so y'all sayn Michael Jordan sayn all tht isn't enuff ..... Wow. MJ left and Scottie took the BULLS to the Eastern Conference FINALS no further but yes the Team played good all Season, he went to Portland and had a Great Team not a Team like the Bulls but he lost against L.A he went to the Rockets and he still came up short so again plz tell me sumn tht makes sense.
Scottie brought it on himself.
The biggest thing you guys keep out about Jordan is.. He went through the losses and got beat up early on. Didn't switch teams got better and won 6. That's what makes him great. Won 3 and left to play baseball came back and won 3 in a row.. Didn't ask for any SUPERSTARS to play with.. He's the best I've ever seen on TV PERIOD.
2 minutes in and I absolutely agree with pippen, he stated facts.
Update
You guys are dead wrong on this one. Yall interpreted that wrong. Before pippen jordan was not winning with pippen he started winning. Nobody said he's on the same level but he was instrumental in those titles
Pippen woulda been a forgotten basketball player if he never played with Jordan and he woulda never been viewed as a top 50 player all time.
How u know that
He's viewed as a top 50 player because he is a damn top 50 player
Facts
@@bmill8780 I watched..
@@mickeyhartsell6096 damn the kool aid must taste like your fat untie made it
Broussard is right pippen without mj and the bulls will not have developed to tge star or legend he is today
Jordan would become a hall of famer without pippen. But pippen wouldn't even become an all star without jordan.
Caller said ya sound like lebron fans and ya get deeper in your feelings. Its a fact that jordan was getting bounced out the first round without scottie.
Y'all have no context lmfao
Uche Akusobi Pippen didn't make Jordan win Pippen was riding the bench when the bulls did start winning so you sound stupid
Jordan didn't need Scottie to get out of the first round you idiot. The Bulls kept getting bounced in the 1st round cuz the team outside Jordan was utter garbage and they were playing in the tougher conference. Go look up Scottie's rookie numbers coming off the bench and you tell me he's the reason Jordan got past the first round. How dumb do you have to be in today's age to still believe this myth lol.
Im sure Mj lead the Bulls to 50 wins with Pip averging 8 points in the regular season and 10 points in the playoffs. Most Lebron fans would consider tht player no help and a "bum". First person who commented was right, you need more context on this other wise they about to cme for your head 🤣🤣🤣
When they both said "keep him on the line" 🤣🤣🤣
This is the realest take I've seen in relations to Pip.
Here we go again.The get.along gang. Jordan wouldn't have those champion without Pip.Give the man some credit
Samuel Washington . Thats like saying I wouldnt have gotten to work if I missed my bus but there will be another one coming by shortly so the one I missed wasn't the one one I could get to work on . Get my drift?
@@christiansoldier77 I get your drift.
that goes both ways ...Pippen wasn't able to win a ring without MJ leadership and performance also helped too ...it took years for Pippen to developed into the all star he was being around MJ
Jordan always gives Pippen Credit in the public( I don’t know about behind the doors!!but). Google MJ starting 5! And MJ said he would not have won without Pippen.
Give MJ, jimmy butler instead of scottie and he still would have won too
In reading some of these comments, Chris and Rob are reacting to what PIPPEN SAID IN THE PROMOTION OF HIS BOOK and they are challenging that misled assertion. That is context of their commentary.
as a chitown kid growing up in the nineties we loved scottie. he was robin to mjs batman. they both "saved the day", its just mj (batman) kicked more ass and took out the final boss. lol.
You don’t remember thee whole story…before the first 3-peat Chicago started to hate Scottie and wanted him traded…they also were going to trade him in 95 for Kemp
@@mannyneva1760 they hated him until he carried them to the Eastern conference finals, 1 bad call away from the finals! Lol MJ couldn't do that without Scottie. At least he never did!
@@Dkitt1 fan boy…the Bulls roster was improved from 93 when MJ retired to 94….they added Kukoc etc it wasn’t the same roster from 93 BUT in 95 when Horace Grant left the bulls were headed to the lottery until mlb went on strike and MJ came back and saved Pippen ass….y’all be lying 🤣✌🏽
Dam Scottie smh lol I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to sell your book bro.
So sad!
I love Pip but this seems pathetic
@@TheBmills415 i love him as well, but he doing what he thinks is right to sell his book. Sad thing is during MJ's HOF speech Scottie was the first person Mike gave flowers to.
@@daweeza42
That's what's so disrespectful MJ gave him props
Where’s the lie at tho?
@@TheBmills415 word
Scottie lost his mind, You are rated as a part of the Greatest duo of all time. You just spoiled a great thing.
You guys nailed it in this video, many players could have filled that role
I don't mind if MJ said I don't want Isaiah in the Dream team, I don't mind if Larry Bird said I don't want Isaiah joining the team, but PIPPEN? nyahahaha
😂😂😂😂😂for real, " YOU CAN'T SAY NOTHING "
"But anybody BELOW them, and I mean BELOW them!!!"
Open Court talk lol
Ye lol Isiah said that.. tho to be fair, Pippen was a really good player, just not a superstar like some of the other guys were.
@@TheIInWin "I could understand Magic, or Bird, or MJ saying that... you know? The big dogs... but anybody BELOW them?! Come on man.
Jordan started the breakfast club, which was solo practices at MJ’s house. Those sessions helped mold pipen
Yeah people forget about. Thanks for reminder
Yeah true because jordan is a winner he need his teammates to be a winner also thats why he wanted them to be good
Is that's why he beat up Steve Kerr in practice, told a flight attendant not to feed Horace Grant, what a great guy huh?
@@sergeant1446 was the topic about what type of person MJ was?
@@sergeant1446I take it you never played competitive sports. Ribbing is part of it. When MJ told them not to feed Horace Grant, he was joking. He said it, but he didn't say it being serious. But no one reports that. It's just the words in black and white without real context sound bad. Kerr, needed to get punched so he could handle Draymond. Those experiences matter.
This is just a weird argument. Pippen is a great player, but lets not act as if Jordan would have just been completely by himself for his entire career. If there was no Pippen, the Bulls would've found another player to support Jordan. What happens if they draft a dominant center instead? Alonzo Morning? Or Shaq? David Robinson? Or a high level point guard, like Gary Payton, or John Stockton? Like, no offense to Pippen but he's replaceable. Jordan is not.
Also, people need to understand, the year Jordan went to go play baseball, it wasn't the same team! Their roster improved. They added key pieces like Toni Kukoc, Luc Longley, Steve Kerr. Horace Grant his his prime and became an allstar, BJ Armstrong became an allstar. That's why they were able to maintain a good record.
Who they would have found the play with him in the 90s players didn't want to play with players like they want to play today they wanted to beat Jordan that's a bad faith argument if it didn't happen then you can't assume that it would have happened with somebody else
@@jarvisjones9529 Jesus, trying to understand what you're trying to say almost gave me an aneurysm. Do they not teach you how to use punctuation in your schools? Of course it would have been someone else. They don't just leave spots empty. Just like when Jordan retired, they were able to acquire a few strong players. They just didn't leave Jordans spot empty.
Scottie Pippen averaged 16 points, 6 rebounds, and 5 assists for a career and he's considered a top 50 player historically. People have lost their minds!
Defense as well
Exactly
Kevin love average 8.5 points 6.8 rebounds and 1.3 assist in cavs 2017 chips while bein a liability on defense and Y'all say bron can't win without a super teams lol
@J Black lol ok what the cavs have done since LeBron left he still in his prime only 32 . How many all star, all nba team playoff appearance Kevin love had in 3 years since LeBron left.
@J Black lebron made Kevin love worse but MJ made Scottie better even tho Scottie had career high in everything only player to lead his team in five categories until kg did it for the wolves and finish second in Mvp voting behind hakeem.
If my memory serves me well. Pippen had his chance to win titles without Jordan in Portland and Houston, but couldn't get it done.
they were old tho. shaq and kobe were coming and nothing was gonna stop them.
Yep. Truth hurts. Michael Jordan will always be the goat. Keep hating
🤔 If my memory serves me correct didn't Scottie sit out against Detroit in the playoffs because of a migraine 🙄 .
and bulls
He had a chance to at least make the finals in 94’ only to get bounced by the Knicks
Look at how emotional they get about Jordan 😂😭
And they talk about lebron fans these Jordan folks are 10x worse
I'm not surprised, MJ is the GOAT, it's inevitable to be stuck in his shadow
lebron is the true goat. jordan. pffft.
I think we just saw the person you refer to the true goat against the suns. How did that work out for you.
@@phillipgoat00 keep dreaming kid
@@adrianprince7266 stop it, Jordan lost in the first round 3 times and 2 of those times he was swept. LeBron is the GOAT.
@@adrianprince7266 you mean the real goat is Jordan the guy on the wizards that didn't make the playoffs? oh yeah, I forgot that one.
In game 7 portland vs lakers Scottie scored 11points on 30%....but somehow your on the same level as jordan...
Keep dreaming scottie
Thank you
Rodman barely scored either! He guarded shaq tho… rodman must be a bum too 🤣.
@@tylerrbh9769 rodman was a good role player nothing more
The bulls never went a game 7 against the lakers in the playoffs 🤷🏿♂️
@@deondrehilson2364 I talking about Portland game 7 while pippen played with Portland in 2000
I love Scottie Pippen. I'm from the south side of Chicago and watched every single minute of every single game during the dynasty.
The simple fact is that the amount of attention that Jordan got on the court gave Pippin room to grow into his own.
Jordan could turn on offense and defense like nobody else.
You can go and watch Jordan's dunk highlight videos and half of them come off of him stealing the ball.
If the other team turned the momentum, you could almost guarantee the Jordan was about to block somebody shot.
I'll still say that I would not have traded another player to be in Scottie Pippen's roll. He was awesome and he did amazing things with his situation.
4:40 with the bench tantrum that he threw in Game 3 against the Knicks, he tarnished his legacy. And then he went to Houston, had issues there as well. Went to Portland, and then choked down a 15 point lead in the 4th quarter of Game 7 of the WCF to the Lakers in 2000.
And Jordan didn’t make the playoffs in Washington
Jordan quit on the Bulls at the eve of training camp in 1993
@@thagame7528 well at the age of 39 and 40. And the Wizards were 4th in thr East before Jordan got injured in the 01/02 season. This is after not playing for 3 full seasons.
And you are comparing taking time off for a personal tragedy to quitting on his team? A bit desperate aren't you?
How many playoff wins in Washington?
@@thagame7528 lol bruh he didn't reach the playoffs. But I think you are a bit thick to understand context or age or injuries. But keep up your desperation.
@@thagame7528 so pippen is the reason bulls won with 16 ppg average..lol...you are an idiot..every team has players..pippen was second fiddle...stop making him more important than he was...
Damn Mike has always given Scottie credit. Why Scottie keep throwing shots at Mike?
Cuz he's a punk
But he didn't throw a shot at Mike..?
MJ threw shots at him in his documentary dummy
@@sergeant1446 no he didn't Mike gave Scottie all credit in the doc
@@sergeant1446 was only a true story!💯
James Worthy coming out with a book on how Magic wasn't the real star lmfao
Michael Jordan deserved SHADE. Michael was great at a GREAT COST to all of his team mates.
That’s the cost for being the GOAT. It what it is.
@@natejones8539 I was gonna say that too look at thanos he wanted to be “great” in his own way and at the end his daughter asked him what it cost him “everything” he replied I truly believe the cost of greatness is scarifying what most others won’t
His teammates didn't deserve him is how I see it.
@@t-god2439 exactly. Great men has always done this to achieve all time greatness.
Lol lebron does that. Jordan made them way better than they were. Pippen included.
In 94 when he was the man he couldn't get them Over the hump back to the chip. His ppg went up by like 2 in 94 when he was the no1..option. I understand BJ and Horace got a little better. But he wasn't dominate. In 95 bulls were like what a 6 seed b4 MJ came back..pippen is great. He is right without him there are no rings. But the 97 and 98 chips PIP was a shell of himself MJ carried that team to those chips..interested to hear if he will talk about his wife wildin as well..
How are you going to hold it against pippen for not taking the bulls to a chip. Pippen didn't get a second player player to compliment him.
If Pippen left MJ and no one came in to replace pippen MJ would have lost in the playoffs.
Mj is the better player but let's not act like MJ would have done so much better by himself than pippen
@@Christopher._M this is correct. More an observation. When pip was the man his individual production didn't change that much. Before Pippens rise although MJ teams lost in the playoffs. Individually he was at another level. Pippen is a great 2nd option. But maybe his personality wasn't set to be a killer offensively.
Are you crazy the second-best player in the league was Pippen behind Jordan
@@jarvisjones9529 results showed different
@@jarvisjones9529 Over Olajuwon, Shaq, Malone, Barkley, David Robinson, Drexler, Penny, Grant Hill, etc ?
Robin eventually became Nightwing, but, he could never be a Batman.
Scottie spitting facts
More like scottie being delusional.
How do you become Top 50 if he wasn't valuable and a Juggernaut in his Prime?
He had that Jordan stimulus package. Trust me if they did another top 50 right now he would not be there.
Say it again!!!
That was almost 25 years ago that statement or declaration was made. He's out of the Top 50 now.
I could name 10 playing right now better than Scottie
@@MentLeee who???
Jordan had so much praise for pippen but pippen is doing jordan bad. Wtf. Pippen would not be nowhere if jordan did not push him to step up.
Scottie was literally a top 5-10 player in the league at the time and people are acting like he's Draymond lmao
Not for rings 5 and 6. He missed half of the 98 season and slowed down significantly during the last couple games against Utah.
Is 2016,17 Draymond scrub to you? Is it an insult?
@@depannist Alright sure Pip was still about a top 15-20 player on the league in 97 and 98 thats still great especially knowing it was only because of age lmao
@@user-bm9cv9vn2k 2 years out of an 9 year career
Not sure why Scottie is so insecure, MJ even says in the last dance there are no 6 rings without Scottie, that Scottie is the greatest teammate he’s ever had
I hate the “Jordan didn’t win without Pippen” narrative… MJ didn’t even play without Scottie (no player is expected to win championships on their rookie contract)
So if mike made Scottie, why didn’t mike make anyone else without scottie
Where you from??? Obviously you’re not from Chicago. Where was Scottie against Detroit??? Scottie ass was damn near done here in Chicago bc of his lack of confidence . He didn’t make Cartwright better? Armstrong?? Brian Williams?? Grant??? I can go on
So are you saying Michael should have made Steve Kerr or Bill Cartwright or Horace Grant into Pippen ? Are human beings just lumps of clay that you can mould into anything? Jordan made his teammates better competitors and taught them some skills, but he couldn't turn them into Pippen, because they were never born to be Pippen in the first place, and most of them didn't even play SF
Scottie was a product of the triple post offense, not Michael Jordan
Facts💯
musiqisme26 You mean like Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong?
Dude has every right to speak his peace. Imagine being the 2nd best player on a team with the greatest player to ever play. That kind of shadow can swallow you whole. I don’t care who you are, that had to be tough, particularly as a young man. I feel him. People can say what they want, but this guy was one of the best two way players to ever grace the court.
That inferiority complex, and he need to deliver himself from it.
Agreed. But where is his delusion that he is somehow the reason for Michael's success coming from? Where would SCOTTIE be without Jordan?
@@azraelsoluna110 He is not the reason for MJ's Success. He became the missing piece for them to win a Chip. These are 2 different things, don't mistake one for the other. Michael was already a Success, everyone knew him and the league were always trying to stop him. Any other good player like Scottie in the league at that time would have helped win the chip.
it was 90% jordan n 10% team
@@Chalee711 That's a pretty hot take. And frankly, it's just plain disrespectful to all of the essential role players on those teams.
Scottie has 0 NBA records and 0 Bulls records. This is the guy MJ took to the finals and won titles with.
Scottie trippin, remember Jordan vetoed that trade for TMAC or Shawn Kemp coming to the bulls for pippen. ( one of them could of been a Bulls) Pippen wild for this.
Yes, I do. This is crazy.
Im sure Jordan could 6 ring with T Mac as well that show u that pip was just a supporting case , just as T Mac would
@@mikelaw5427 How do you know that? T-Mac might’ve rejected his role because he was like Kobe and demanded the ball. You think MJ would’ve done that?
@@cole8165 he didn’t reject his role his first years in Toronto