Scottie Pippen Says Michael Jordan Was a "Horrible Player" Before He Joined Bulls | THE ODD COUPLE
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- THE ODD COUPLE - Chris Broussard & Ephraim Salaam (in for Rob Parker) react to Scottie Pippen's interesting comments regarding Michael Jordan and the type of player he was before Pippen joined the Chicago Bulls.
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Scottie: “We played a team game”
Phil: “Hey Scottie we’re gonna have Toni Kukoc take this last shot”
Scottie: “Man, F😡CK this team! I’m not playing.”
😂😂😂😂😂
You made my day with it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Scottie: "I wanted to be remembered as the Greatest"
also Scottie: "There's no great in this game, it's a team game"
Scottie: "Lebron carried his team to the championship"
also Scottie: "It's a team game, every players play a role on a team"
Scottie contradicted himself so much. 😂
😂😂😂😂
Jordan would've felt the same way stop it,even when jordan was old he wouldn't let rip ham or Stackhouse shoot,he's gon take every shot he only pass when he got stuck in the air and had to throw a jump pass.
Bobby Knight said about Jordan that he was the best player he ever seen even before playing a single NBA game.
EXACTLY
@@killerman9309And that just one of the reasons that Isiah is so salty about MJ.
@@russelturner5771 right
@@russelturner5771i doubt it. Isiah always praised the greatness of MJ. He ever said on Arsenio Halls show that MJ was the best even over Magic who was his best friend at the time. I am pretty sure that Isiah has no delusions that he is touching MJ.
@@anitafloyd2554 Maybe that was then, but in case you haven't been paying attention lately, Thomas has been spending quite a lot of time lately disparaging Jordan every chance he gets.
This is sad I am probably the biggest Bulls fan in the world I love MJ He's my favorite player of all time. I love Pippen. He is killing part of the legacy. Scottie pippen is so bitter right now and jealous of MJ is ridiculous. Him not calling MJ or saying anything to him after his father passed says it all. It is a known fact MJ has always given Pippen credit. MJ helped Scottie Pippen get to where He was at the player. That's a fact. He should be grateful. Go listen to Scottie pippen's induction to the Hall of Fame speech. The level of disrespect is ridiculous.
Exactly. Him not sending MJ condolences after his dad died says what type of loser pippen is. He’s just an awful human being. I used to like him but I despise him now. MJ is the undisputed GOAT and he knows that
I used to really love Scottie Pippen and thought he was a great player. I even have his rookie card. But now I’ve lost all respect for him.
The disrespect is from all these analysts who never give Pippen or Rodman any credit for the Bulls winning all those titles. People make it seem like Jordan was a god king and the rest of the Bulls were scrubs while they ran through the league. That’s the way it’s talked about. Jordan was a loser before Scottie came along and I don’t blame him one bit for being mad at the way he is talked about.
@skillethead15 here's the problem with your comment. You call Jordan a loser but you fail to acknowledge the fact that MJ had zero, let me repeat that, he had Z-E-R-O help on that Bulls squad when he first came into the league. Then you say people didn't give other players credit and act like Jordan won everything himself. No analyst I know ever says MJ won all those chips alone. Nobody who witnessed the dynasty that was the Bulls will ever say MJ did it by himself. I'm 49, born and raised in Chicago. Got to see the greatest player who ever played the game along with the 2nd greatest Bull to ever play in Pippen. I don't know anyone in Chicago who also watched the dynasty not give any credit to Pip and then later Rodman along with other "role" players.
Stop with the nonsense if you don't know what you're talking about.
@@brianr5356 LeBron took his garbage Cavs team to the NBA Finals and won like 60+ games. Jordan took his garbage Bulls teams and got bounced in round 1. That’s the difference. Jordan was doing nothing but losing until Scottie and Phil.
And Idk what analysts you are watching but every single one of them only ever talk about Jordan having 6 rings and only talk about Scottie to rip him for one of his takes. Skip Bayless literally calls Scottie Pippen overrated because he gives him no credit for what he did.
Scottie was clamping up the opponents best player every game while Jordan just gets to shoot all the shots and he gets all the credit. It’s infuriating and I get where Scottie is coming from.
The disrespect to Clyde Drexler ... Pippen never carried a team expect one year when MJ retired and he didn't go far
Exactly 🤝🏾💯😂😂 2nd Round. If he was that cold why he never got at least 1 Finals MVP. Never snuck a finals MVP like other players did.
I always find it odd that, for everything you can say about Michael, he has never said he would've won without Scotty. He has said many times, "There is no Michael without Scotty".
Jordan is slick and let's his worshippers tear down Pippen. He even crafted his documentary in a way to portray Pippen in a bad light.
He said that as a pacifier to Scotties fragile ego
@@truthbearer7891 which is why I don't feel bad AT ALL for Mj with what scottie said. He's had it coming after that biased doc
Yup folks love to disregard that , but deep down they know....
What biased doc? He told the truth about everyone, including himself.
Listen, I've been watching the NBA for years and I appreciate how the odd couple show can tell it as it is, and tell this new generation the truth about the history and evolution of the game....I said it before, I'm a die hard Knick fan, and I've never been an MJ fan, because he broke my heart too many time...but I learned to respect MJ...his excellence is like no other...I remember seeing pippin getting punked out at the rim by the oak man and company, and he would refuse to go back into the paint...but MJ would get hammered, hit his free throws, next play up on offense, go right back into the paint...over and over again...dude was crazy...I think pip is just upset about the truth on his legacy, on the last dance and now his ex hooking up with MJs son...that's rough
Ha! You think butt kissing Oakley hammered MJ? I call BS.
Well said bro! 👊🏾
This is exactly what it was. Wild how we reinventing history. Pipen was good but no where near as good as we trying to rewrite history. FOH.
Born and raised Chicagoan here. I have to say, it's good to hear the prospective from fans of opposing teams/cities like yourself who can give an honest opinion of how MJ played. I mean, Ewing would've won at least 1 chip if it were not for Jordan. You can say that for a lot of great franchise players during the Bulls run. We need to hear more from the fans of those teams from those years. Ask Cleveland fans, ask ATL fans, ask Utah, Seattle, Laker, Philly etc...the list goes on. MJ was just different from everyone else. He never stopped, he never quit.
Scottie was a good player who was fortunate to play with a great player.
Scottie is 100% correct!
Jordan's rookie season is probably better than Pippen's best season 😂
Scottie is pissed. He shouldn't be, because he owes it all to Mike.
With that said scottie is the best on ball defender I have ever seen. Not a great scorer, but a hell of a point forward.
It would be hard to know that mikes son is stamping out your old lady 😆
I watched MJ throughout his career. He was always a beast. All superstars need a team to win a ring so what Scottie is saying is a mute point.
Correction.....SCOTTIE PIPPIN CAREER HIGH IS 47 POINTS in a game💯💯💯💯.....
MJ rookie stats: 28.2ppg, 6.5rpg, 5.9apg
Pippen rookie: 7.9ppg, 3.8rpg, 2.1apg
And you say Jordan wasn't good til you came to the Bulls? C'mon now Pip. 🤦
MJ playoff stats before him
35.5 ppg
7.1 apg
5.8 rbg
That’s not his argument though…
@@Supersupremegang he said Michael Jordan was a horrible player before he came there, so what was his argument..?
@@mauricedavis1740 It’s semantics…did Jordan play winning basketball? You probably going to say he played with drug addicts and plumbers right? He’s the GOAT though right? So why he never won anything without scottie Pippen?
He saying Mj wasn’t winning champions with out him
I’m 47. My friends and I used to live and die by every Bulls game, watching them during the week on a small 13” TV via WGN network. As a former sports artist, I drew MJ & Scottie the most as my all time favorite players and duo. What Pip has been doing these past couple years is embarrassing to me as a fan of his and his game. He’s an all time great. When people say “All this guy needs is his Pippen” , all Batman needs is his Robin, his Pippen, that’s nothing to sneeze at. It angers and saddens me every time Scottie opens his mouth these days.
I couldnt agree more. This is exactly how I feel now also. I truly believe he might be on drugs or having a mental breakdown. None of what he has been saying, makes any sense!!💁😢
same, I grow up having him as my favorite player, first slander I get it he was selling a book, this time he's just getting petty for no reason.
Scottie Pippen isn't talking about basketball at all. MJs SON is having sex with Scottie's ex-Wife. That is beyond personal & the main fuel tonwhy he always bashes MJ.
@@tonyochiha9798 yeah that's just him being bitter now, which is pathetic crying over spilled milk.
@@tonyochiha9798
That's Marcus that's smashing Larsa, NOT MJ 😂🤣. Scottie mad at the wrong person but Marcus owes Scottie no loyalty, Larsa owes Scottie that loyalty but even she doesn't give it to him. Scottie looking crazy out here nowadays
MJ’s rookie year was better than any of Pippen’s years. 😂
Bruh mj's wizards years were damn near better than any of scottie's 😂
@@kalanievans2341 hell nah
But pippen take Chicago without MJ to the finals and MJ without pippen and Rodman and Harper and Kerr and tony kuko and many good players he don’t win championships.
@@kalanievans2341 severely underrating Scottie’s alltime great defense and elite playmaking , Scottie was cool on offense , he was jus the ultimate swiss army knife i think Jordan fans undervalue him and Bron fans overvalue him
Not the 1994 season. Jordan was way better, but don't down play Scottie tho.
On the Rachel Nichols show, Pippen said, "There's not 1 game that I would EVER choose LeBron over Jordan. EVER"! Sad man. Really sad!
Thinking the same thing when I saw pips quote his exact words he would never take LeBron over Jordan lol I love pip but he’s a clown now for sure
Lebron on steroids. I don’t know if Jordan was on it
It’s very sad to see Scottie like this. He needs to get some help and move on. This is just destroying his legacy.
Facts💯
Jordan needs help for being psychotic, but we ignore that.
I think Scottie is saying what a lot of Jordan's teammates think, but won't say publicly.
Nothing wrong with Scottie voicing his opinion. He was on the team with Mike. None of these guys played with Mike... Mike only have 6 rings. They are other super stars with more so that goat status is out the window
So far, I’m seeing just as many fans come to HIS defense cause they found another reason to attack MJ’s legacy.
MJ never hesitated in praising Scottie for his success. Never!
MJ's FG% was 50% before Scottie got there and remained 50% for his career so "shooting bad shots" doesn't make sense.
THAAAANK YOOOOU!!!!!!
And didn’t win lol
@@JohnJohn-sg8df neither did scottie, he even quit on his team cause he didn’t get to take the last shot lol
@@JohnJohn-sg8df still was the best individual player in the league
@@JamesHall415 best individual in a TEAM sport??? That’s the exact reason Lebron is the goat…basketball is a team sport,u have to be better for the team
Marcus Jordan is taking Larsa to Pound Town and Scottie is in his feelings😲
He really going to break her back wen he here this
Hope he gives her what she want
They not married anymore
@@YoungSlim72 in Scotty mind they are
This what I been saying and Pippen feel some kinda way
If pippen was drafted by the mavericks, you wouldn't have heard anything about dude
And Jordan wouldn't have won those 6 chips
@@Traylormade_Chief looking at the stats - hee would have. He carried those Bulls teams
LOL Jordan would just be another Drexler,
Jumping & running for no good business.
@@Traylormade_Chief Yeah Jordan wouldnt be considered the GOAT without Pippen. Jordan literally only won one playoff game without him
@@erikpuka2627 Carried those Bulls teams to one playoff win
Scottie made things worse for himself by drawing attention to himself and now people are re evaluating him during his bulls days and realizing that he wasn't as good as he is claiming now and he was that good because of Mike. If he had kept his mouth shut it would have been better, now he opened it and made things worse for himself. It actually has achieved the opposite of what he had hoped.
Reevaluate all you want. Pippen took the Hard Assignment while MJ was available to shoot 98% of the time. Pippen told no lies.
I remember those day Jordan witout pippen
0 .500 seasons
0 50+ win seasons
0 conference semi finals
0 conference finals
0 playoff series wins
1 playoff games won
Pippen witout jordan
6 .500 seasons
4 50+ win seasons
2 conference semi finals
1 conference finals
3 playoff series wins
19 playoff games won
You don't really remember, you just looked it up on Google. That's OK though because you forgot to add what happened when Jordan and Pippen was there TOGETHER. Look that up and share it, will you?!
Context is always better when everyone has the necessary data...😅
@@Keepit_100 now get Pippen's stats especially in the playoffs and tell us how many times horrible he was that MJ had to carry them on offense almost every time, toni was the other guy helping him.
Teams win championships.
MJ's kid smashing Larsa. Scottie now smashing MJ's rep and game. Lmao 😂
I say they're even 🤷♀️ 😂
😆😅😂🤣🤔🤷🏾
Ain’t gonna work tho…we in the stat era now….pippen averaged 7pts as a rookie…he gon have to sit his bum ass down someone
For context in the 3 years mj was in the league before scottie he averaged 32 5reb 5ast 2.6stl and 1.2 blks they were not winning bc the team was not structured to win anything at that point. The first playoff series he won "bc of scottie" mj averaged 45 pts on 56% while scottie averaged 10 on 47%.
excellent points but you forgot one important context; defense. Scottie might not have been strong offensive-wise during that series but his defense was a key factor in him also. Nxt time include everything besides one half of the court.
@@TheShock03 that’s true but keep in mind Mj was giving you these types of scoring outputs with defense in the same tier as Scottie’s
@@comebackkid5976 that part
@@comebackkid5976 There is mythology around Jordan's defense to manufacture him as the GOAT. Go watch Game 1 of the NBA Finals vs Magic Johnson. Magic completely abused Jordan which is why the Bulls lost that game. The Bulls made an adjustment to put PIppen on him and he locked him down the rest of the series. Pippen was always the pivotal defender on any star wing player the Bulls faced throughout their title runs. JOrdan was certainly an above average defender and got lots of steals, but there is no comparison between which defender was more versatile and suffocating for opposing players.
Next time research before you sound like you know something. Scottie averaged less than one steal and less than 1 block Jordan averaged 2.4 steals and a little more than a block. That’s the first playoff series they won. Also if you knew basketball Oakley was the second best player on that particular team.(strictly talking about Scottie rookie season)@Shock03
Scottie needs to write a book called I’m bitter than you😂😂
Create the design and Put it on a T-shirt. 🔥🔥
Damn 😂
Pippen literally told MJ in his HoF speech, "Thank you for being the best teammate."
Pippen came off the bench when he first got there.
I hate how people make it seem like he showed up and they started winning.
Worse than ppl who pretend that's not exactly what happened. Jordan literally never had a winnign season without Pippen. Pippen still played in 79 games his rookie year with 20+ minutes per game including most of the clutch minutes. And he led the team in every statistical category other than points during their title runs.
@@truthbearer7891 How many rings did he win the two years Jordan was retired?
@@truthbearer7891 You idiot. The bulls added more than just pippen 😂
@@truthbearer7891 nice lie. Looking at each championship run separately he did no such thing
@@Iwillroastthesocksoffyoass how many Jordan win before pip got there
Fact check: Scottie had 49 career 30 point games. Jordan had 562
It’s more than just about points
@MrIncred1ble92 he's fact checking Salaam saying Scottie could get you 30.
@@anthonymercado8126?😂who hurt you??, pippen was not great when he arrived in the league at all, and without Jordan he would've never been known...
@Tulponatix You're wrong
This guy doesn't much about stats Chris.
Jordan son is smashing his ex wife. Pippen is devastated and prone to say anything at this point.
Thank you Brousard !!! Educate dem young'uns! I watched MJ back then. Was it his fault that the team when he got there was God awful??? He went out and did his thang and entertained the Hell out of us the fans AND made everybody in the league richer... EVERYBODY! Until he is eclipsed by some alien MJ IS THE 🐐!!!!!
This man said scottie dropping 32 wit mj 33 like he did that regularly lmao where is Rob lol😂😂😂
Facts 😂
I'd say about 1 in 4 of his games he'd pull over 30. He wasn't always looking for a shot, more to just set up the plays.
😂Dude clueless
I was like get this guy off the show he clearly don’t know what the hell he talking about!! And Drexler was not the alpha on his team everyone know he was the quite lethal one ..Where’s Rob!!!! 🤦🏿
Pippen averaged like 17ppg in his career without mj 😭
Scottie always does this and then takes it back in a few weeks 😂
Mike’s first playoff series win, Jordan averaged 45 as Pippen averaged 10. The next year, Jordan averaged 32/8/8 shooting 53%, 15 triple doubles and lost to a 63 win Pistons in Conference Finals (Pippen averaged 9.7 points at 40%) He had to carry the Bulls from the dumpsters
Scottie needs help, fast!!
Scottie must have forgot about those migranes he had against Detroit. Mike toughened him up and made him better.Just say Thank You and keep it pushing
The funny thing about that is you would expect the GOAT to just win that game 7 anyways without a simple role player ya? He had several other role players that I’m sure Jordan made into the ballers they were to.. Grant,Paxon,Armstrong,Cartwright you know the usual cast minus Pip. What was the score to that game as well? If I recall it was pretty much an ass kicking. Most people look back and say Pip choked and I would agree but I also say Mike choked up that chance as well making the case even stronger that he did need Pip for those chips.
@@globaloutdoorinnovations7511THANK YOU BRO…these fans completely forgot about Jordan crying to the leagues front office about the Detroit Pistons lol and he was so salty he got Isaiah off the dream team
@@globaloutdoorinnovations7511 lol having the coldest shoes ever known of any athlete will make these dudes get on their knees clearly
@@globaloutdoorinnovations7511 Win a series against the defending champ dynasty Pistons who should have 3peat if was t for a bad foul call in 1988 finals by himself??? Yeah that’s why he is the 🐐 he almost did
Alright Pippen finally showed up with his 17PPG in 1991 and it was 🧹🧹
I dnt think MJ will ever publicly respond to Pippen but if there was ever a situation that could bring him close this would be it 😂😂😂 Pippen calling MJ’s game horrible is next level.
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Mj is greatest player to ever play.
Somebody tell Scottie that The Last Dance did not change our perspective about him.
Here's what everyone seems to be forgetting. The year Michael averaged 37ppg, the second best scorer on the team was Charles Oakley. Woolridge and Daley the second and third leading scorers from the season before, were no longer on the team. Both of them were drug users. Jordan had to take on a greater scoring load in '87.
Tell people this all the time but of course a lot of the people that comment on TH-cam weren’t even born while MJ was doing this
@@jaymoney6233 I wasn't born by that time either, but it takes three seconds to research this stuff.
People know why the Bulls weren't good before Scottie. Also Scottie wasn't the only guy. You had Horace grant as well
Jordan was chasing scoring titles. That's all he cared about. Had a coach that let him shoot all day.
@@Tor109 and lebron doesn't? With his baby lay ups and kiddie dunks . Dude can't make a mid range to save his life
@@Tor109 Bron would have had more scoring titles if he shot 80% free throws
That's the only reason he doesn't have it. Instead of avg 27ppg, he could have ended up with 30+ easily
Jordan has always given Scottie credit for the success the Bulls had. If I recall correctly, Bulls front office wanted to trade Pip to Seattle for Kemp and Jordan stopped that. Pip was one of my favorite players of all time but Scottie needs to get help.
Jordan knew he couldn’t win without Scottie…
The bulls also wanted to trade pippen for the draft rights to Tracy mcgrady. MJ stepped in and put a stop to it.
@@rayb.1180 It's because of trust issues.....mj doesn't trust anybody easily unless you've proven your worth as a player.....but that doesn't mean that he can't play well and bring the team to win without pippen.....
CORRECT!!! 💯💯💯💯
@@rayb.1180hahaha he could win with me!
“Scottie wasn’t helping him with his little 7 points per game” -Chris Broussard 😂😂😂😂
His behavior lately is making him look so silly. I'm from Chicago and saw every game they played in the 90s. I love Scottie so much, he was a huge, huge part of those 6 championships and doesn't get credit for the 55 games the Bulls won after MJ retired the 1st time. He was a spectacular player. Michael has mentioned multiple times, including in the opening lines of his Hall of Fame Speech and in The Last Dance, that he would't be where he is without Scottie. I think Scottie turning on him must be painful for Michael.
Lara’s dating MJs son the now lol 😂 he’s got a mad vendetta. Mj probably laughing his ass off
@@MrJonnyl123 Yeah lolol I dont think Mike gives a damn for real
Jordan ALWAYS gave Pippen credit. In his HoF speech, every accomplishment he achieved after Pippen was there. But let's not forget that the 2nd year, in the 94-95 season, the Bulls were basically a. 500 team before MJ returned with less than 20 games left in the regular season. Why couldn't they go on another 55 win season, or be on the road to that again, until Jordan came back? You tell me...I'll wait
@@ManOfYah-work-in-progress Horace Grant leaving had much to do with it. The Bulls were Swiss cheese under the hoop. They had Toni Kukoč filling up the number 4, and he was more of a today's 3. The thing is, the 93/94 Bulls were a determined and talented squad that wanted to prove they could do it without MJ, and that was after the championship where they cruised in the regular season, with MJ and Scottie being tired after the Olympics. So that season was actually a bit of an overachievement.
Let's call a spade a spade Scottie is dealing with the fact his EX wife is dating his godson, which happens to Michael Jordan's eldest son very simple where this venom is coming from.
As someone who was born in Chicago and still lives here, it really is hard to see this happen. Pippen is really small and low.
Jordan was better but Scottie made Jordan a legend. Gtfoh
He guarded best guy & took $1M pay cut but he’s an afterthought.
@@kungfufemafam9216 Man what yo ass kno bout the making of legends, u jus an internet warrior nothing more nothing less
Jordan can't do anything without Scottie if he's low they down there together.
I don’t blame him. He’s just mentally broken.
When MJ retired I remember how excited Scottie was about his return. I remember him on the sidelines pointing at his Jordans. MJ was going to get a title with or without Scottie.
Pippen a fraud and a Clown 🤡
Maybe one without Scottie but not 6 😂
@@godofsport2494 the fact that jordan can carry the team even how bad scottie is playing just proves that he can win the game if given the right help......but i don't think you can prove your speculations about jordan without pippen...and if you'll use the first years mj had played....mind you he had a different support system back then
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@@godofsport2494yeah not 6 but probably 7
I remember that like it was yesterday, when Scottie held up his shoe and pointed to the Air Jordan logo, begging MJ to come back to the NBA
I blame Larsa Pippen. She broke this man,😂
The crazy thing about this is that Scottie Pippen got better BECAUSE of Michael Jordan. He REALLY got in his feelings about that Last Dance documentary which is kinda crazy because it didn't "make him look bad." Jordan said he doesn't win without him. Scottie is just sensitive because of the discussion about his contract and his decision to not have back surgery. They didn't make Scottie look bad. They just told the truth. It did make a difference in the Bulls season and in the workload that Michael had.
Stop the cap that Bulls team was a championship calibre team without Jordan, the year he retired the first time Bulls lost 2 less games without him and they were robbed of a chance to go the conference finals and possibly win a championship by a "controversial" call. This overglorification and mythologising of Michael Jordan has more to do with him being a lifetime mascot for the Nike Corporation's "Jordan" brand. Career to Career stats to stats Kareem was a better and more accomplished player than Jordan.
@@ronaldrussoe1749TALK THAT TALK 🗣️🗣️
@@ronaldrussoe1749 lol so you really think that bulls team in 1994 and 1995(they weren’t even a playoff team in 1995 until jordan came back) could stop the dream and the rockets in the finals without Jordan?😂 so scottie’s 22 pts a game was gonna lead them there huh lol. I get it, you are tired of hearing how good mj was, but that doesn’t mean you diminish his talent or accomplishments. Also as great as kareem was, he needed 2 all time great pgs to win his championships. One was the big O oscar robertson and the second was this guy named ervin magic Johnson who had to play center in 1980 in game 6 cause Kareem was hurt
@@kant5696Kareem won three straight college championships, 6 NBA Championships, 6 MVPs, 19x NBA All Star, 10 All NBA first teams, 1994-95 without "saint" Jordan, Pippen was the all star game MVP was third in the regular season MVP voting, All NBA first team, All NBA Defensive first team, Steals leader. And his team won 2 less games without the overrated cigar chomping degenerate gambling Nike Mascot that is Michael Jordan.
The crazy thing about this is that Michael Jordan got better BECAUSE of Scottie Pippen. More importantly, the Chicago Bulls got a lot better BECAUSE of Scottie Pippen. The Last Dance documentary told Michael Jordan's perspective.
Pippen's problem is, Jordan Junior is making Larsa scream louder than he EVER could. That's the real issue here.
Lol he married the Thot.
Facts
That's saying something since Scottie got a DONG. Everybody in the locker room knew it even madonna.
Moral of the story: Bigger ain't always better
That's 🥶.....but true 🤣
MJ's son when he and Larsa are doing the do Say my Dad's The GOAT 🤣🤣🤣
Remember Scottie's meltdown in the playoffs, didn't play because of migraine(?) then bench himself because last play was drawn to Kukoc. Another one a short stint with the Rockets after the team paid him with a big contract. If not with MJ, Pippen's success wouldn't be as close as he was with MJ.
Damn man, I was a kid in the 90s and had pippen shoes and posters in my room and loved his game. This really breaks my heart to see him going at MJ like this. I wish he would’ve just stayed quiet and let his ex wife look like the bad person for all the stuff she’s done but it’s obvious he’s hurting and angry. I hope he talks to someone privately to let it all go
Both Jordans dunking hard on Pip.
Bro he sees what we all see Lebron is just better
@@mahamedjmal2536Who's we all bruh Ain't nobody seein what u see bruh
@@sonnyallagonez5776 listen to scottie he is speaking facts
@@mahamedjmal2536 nah nan. Not even close.
Chris won that debate. Everytime Chris trumped Ephraims argument like “I dont know who wouldve replaced Pippen” and Cylde was perfect example, Eohraim said “if if was a fifth.” Clyde let Hakeem lead the Rockets, of course he wouldnt mind letting Jordan lead the squad
When does Rob Parker come back?
😂😂 he avoided da truth everytime 😂
Ephraim is over matched by Chris.
Jordan made Scottie. And it took YEARS to build him up to a championship level. Best quote ever is Bobby Knight having someone from Portland tell him they were leaning away from Michael because they needed a center and he told them "well then play Jordan at center".
Yep, Bobby said before MJ was even drafted that he was the greatest basketball player he had EVER seen, just think about that.
Jordan is also smashing Jordan bish. Chyea
A lie perpetuated by Jordan fan boys not backed by facts. Scottie made Jordan a winner. JOrdan never won anything without Pippen. Couldn't even get more wins than losses in the regular season. It's more to the game of basketball than scoring points and Scottie Pippen dominated every other statistical category during the Bulls run leading in rebounds, assists, blocks and steals. The same reason why he was far more successful without Jordan than vice versa. Jordan was replaced with a CBA player and they only lost 2 more games. Imagine if he was replaced with a top 30 NBA player, would have really embarassed Jordan's legacy
@@truthbearer7891 you keep saying lead team in rebounds assists steals blocks in championship runs. Good argument IF it was same team during all 6 championship, it was NOT.
Get off your knees and stop gawking sheesh mj fanatics are the worst
Mike and Pippen were great compliments to each other. I never saw Drexler shut down the best player on the other team.
I think Scottie actually has mental problems. I feel sorry for him.
Scottie’s wife getting her cheeks clapped by Jordan’s kid.
The end.
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Scottie pippen owes his basketball life to Michael jordan,
Lol, Preach!
@@juan999toysMJ was a nobody without pippen
@@moemoe-jb2fw Facts
You goofy. Pippen was a savage. Super talented player. Very intelligent about the game.
@@moemoe-jb2fw you can think LeBron is the goat but when people like you make ignorant ass comments like that It shows how very little you know about basketball.
Before Pippen and Phil, MJ was a top 5 player in the league and there were some already saying he was the greatest player they had ever seen. He was far more accomplished than either of the aforementioned.
If it wasn't for MJ we would be saying " Who is Snottie Pippen". When Jordan left the bulls Toni Kukoc took over the team. He became the main guy. He outshined Pippen. When Jordan came back he instantly became the main guy again. No matter how good Toni Kukoc was (and dude was really good) he couldn't outshine MJ. Jordan is gifted/talented. No matter how anybody feel about him. You can't deny that. Scottie is being Snottie.
Scottie was 94 All-star team MVP that year Mike left. Also led the Bulls in every category that year Kukoc wasn't the man.
@@MarkDonMarcko pippen is like lebron of today a good player but not great....yeah he had moves but what good will it do if you can't bring home the bacon.....just like lbj winning 9 straight seasons in the eastern conference finals but cannot achieve 3peat....even teaming with the hall of famers
@@wza32 too bad he run into kawhi. stopped 2 possible 3 peats, 1 from miami and 1 from gsw.
@Mark Danger But Scottie couldn't even lead the team to the next level. Remember.....Scottie QUIT on the team, whining about Phil "took" his time to "shine".....but Scottie was NEEEEVEEEEER a clutch shooter. He couldn't even throw free throws to win a game. Real talk. And I'm a fan of Scottie AND the Bulls! SMDH....
Remember when Scottie shaved his head trying to look like MJ lol
Replace Drexler with Scottie, they win sooner that 91..people keep saying Drexler, they need to go do their research. Clyde was a no1 option on a team that went to 2 NBA finals..defensively, maybe not the same. But offensively, was better, similar passer.. Scottie gotta stop this. He did say he was the greatest. Just his statistics was. If MJ avg 30 change and making the playoffs before Scottie got to the L was a horrible player. What was Scottie his entire career or anyone else matter fact.. 94 the Bulls team was almost the same. The went to the ECF, Scottie stats were similar to when MJ played, but he did well that year. ALLSTAR MVP, top 5 regular season MVP finish etc. The following year, if Scottie was soooooo great, what happened, why MJ needed to come back to help them out, why wasn't he carry the team. They lost Horace grant, so guess the roster changed a little bit..
What happened in Houston or Portland (he wasn't the 1st or 2nd option on either one of those teams) Scottie got to stop this.
Imagine someone saying LeBron was a horrible player before I got there 🤣
Pippen was Always jealous of MJ lowkey....MJ really didn't even have to ever give Scottie credit....but he did! Now he's even more hateful because MJ's son has been dunking on Scottie's ex!
That’s what I said…dude is losing it !
Pippen didn't get any credit? He made the HOF and was beloved in Chicago. MJ was clearly the best player AND came to the Bulls when we were garbage. Pippen grew into a HOF player playing next to MJ. MJ didn't stunt his growth as a player and I'm sick of people not freaking knowing what the hell MJ accomplished during Pippen's first 2 yrs on the team. MJ and the Bulls were already ascending when Pippen got drafted. Pippen is a product of the Bulls franchise that MJ led on the court. Pippen was homegrown and people don't understand that. They view Pippen as if he was always Scottie during the title runs and that was not the case at all. Pippen was FORTUNATE that he went to the Bulls and played alongside MJ because he was able to grow as a player. Don't matter if Pippen hated MJ's way of leadership, because he maxed out as a player and being part of one of the greatest franchises of all-time. Pippen fumbled his own legacy after MJ retired and that is on him.
Going 1-9 in the playoffs without Pippen is not ascending 😅😂
@@sergiodavis9772 If Kobe never left Shaq people would use that similar argument with Shaq. Kobe knew this so he was happy when Shaq left. But Kobe mentioned that statements like this is unfair because you can't choose who you play with unless you hit the open market. Jordan won in the playoffs in 1987 when Scottie Pippen wasn't a factor. Pippen averaged 7ppg and wasn't great yet.
@@quann06 there is more to the game of basketball than scoring, I gate that stat of 7pgs a game because that doesn't factor in his defensive prowess or his play making ability. Him being out there made the game easier for Jordan offensively and defensively. Come on now........that's like saying Draymond is a non factor because he averages 7pg
@@sergiodavis9772 I totally agree.......
@@sergiodavis9772 Scottie wasn't doing anything special his rookie year. Scoring or not. He was not yet special with his 3 rebounds a game and 2 assist. Stop it 🤣🤣! Scottie was coming off the bench his rookie year. He did nothing. Just say you hate Jordan man. Scottie did not come into the NBA a superstar day 1. It took him a few years to ascend.
Scottie needs someone to talk to. We all here for u Mr. Pippen ❤
I was super happy for Clyde when he finally got a ring with Houston.
Pippen is just DESPERATE. It is sooo sad to hit this low.
Grew up as kid following every single Bulls game in '80's and '90's. I remember all the times Scottie praised Jordan and vice versa after games. The main thing I loved Scottie all those years was his team first attitude. I still think highly of Scottie then, just a different man now I can't say this is same guy I loved for 15 or so years.
Facts💯
Is Michael Jordan the same guy you loved for 15 or so years?
@@UnconventionalReasoning Yes
@@JoeMapes You should consider reexamining that opinion. Jordan was a psychotic teammate, the only reason the Bulls won their championships is that Pippen learned how to handle that and became a bridge to the other players.
@@UnconventionalReasoning That's lame
Can’t wait for Wade, Kyrie and AD say the same about Lebroom 😂
If Scottie went to Indiana we would not be here today at all...Top 200? Maybe. MJ's influence on him is immeasurable
I don’t mind him flip flopping as much, seeing as Bron is still playing, it’s easy to change your mind. But to say MJ was a horrible player is insane and just shows how bitter of a man he truly is.
Lebron could play another 20 years. His peak will never reach Jordan's stratosphere peak.. That ship sailed long ago...
Lebron is just compiling stats and trying to link up with other franchise players Jordan dominated with what he had and won more than Lebron playing almost a decade less
@@D.mo7 That’s because Micheal Jordan won with 2-3 top 50 all time players already on his team, as well as the greatest coach of all time. Y’all gotta stop this nonsense, as if Jordan was perfect. He got 6 rings, that means there was 9 season of his career where he didn’t win a thing. But for some reason we count Brons losses but only MJs wins. Oh okay lol
Someone do a wellness check on scottie. This stems from marcus jordan and his ex wife. Theres hurt in him
Scottie is right,basketball is a team sports
I remember that interview Broussard is talking about. Stephen A went off about it on First Take and said Scottie should have been banned from Chicago for saying that 😂😂😂😂
💯😂😂😂😂🤣 I remember that segment as well.
The good old days lol😅
To Chris' point about another good wing player going to Chicago, back in the day in an interview, Jodan was asked about young players he like; he mentioned Sean Elliott. Said he has always liked his game. Sean came into the league in '89 and could already shoot and was an excellent defensive player. I always thought MJ would have taken Sean over Pippen in a heartbeat those first couple of years. They might have even won more that six, starting earlier and staying together longer because Sean didn't bring all the bs Scottie brought to the team...
Everyone keeps mentioning offense. Sean Elliot can't D-up anyone.
Who checks Magic Johnson in that first Finals appearance
Pippen is a fool for dissing MJ but got-damn, he was probably the best 2 way player in the league
Even Isaiah had to admit he was beast
Scottie is absolutely going crazy but let’s not forget or disrespect who he is and what he did. You need players like Scottie especially if you wanna win the championship, he was perfect for MJ and they were immortalized together, let’s not be crazy and try to change what happened like Scottie might be doing 💜
All Scottie has to say is “Jordan didn’t win anything without me and I didn’t win anything without him” end of discussion because NOBODY can argue that
Facts. But to say he was a horrible player isn't true.... when the numbers don't reflect that... he shot well over 50%...
Scottie was Scottie because Jordan pushed him.
@@amkobraThat’s facts!…. When Scottie became an all-star in 190-91, that’s when Jordan molded him into an elite superstar not afraid of the pistons anymore.
I don't think he meant he was horrible statically. He meant Jordan was a horrible teamate. Jordan was other worldly on the offense end but he didn't embrace team play. It took Phil Jackson to tell him to trust his teammates. Once MJ adopted that philosophy, they started winning champions. He had to allow the others to develop and once they did the Bulls were unstoppable.
I love Pip. Clearly his going through something. I'm not picking Clyde over Pip. No way.😂😂😂
8:01 no way I’m putting Dexler with Jordan over Pippen with Jordan cause they was a perfect match.
Put Pippen with Tatum… or Booker….
@ 9:40 Jordan said himself to his Buddy ahmad rashad’ “Scottie pushed me”
just watch Pippen’s first NBA game ever… you can see the potential. He would’ve been great in Seattle
The further we get away from that era we tend to forget how things were, even if we were directly involved (Scottie Pippen)
Scottie didn't lie. Without him and Phil Jordan would have been ring less
And without them he’d have no rings
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@@drosmith1781 definitely not Cap.
Jordan wouldn't have stayed on the team that long unless they build around him. And at the time it was plenty of teams willing to get jordan and build around him. If portland would have gotten jordan they would have been winning championships. Hell if philly would have got him it's game over
@Lee Wade Free Agency wasn't that popular in the 80's. You basically stayed with the team that drafted you. Look it up,it's not like it is now.
All these MJ's groupies. Stay on his head. I'm riding with you Scottie.
Then i take it one of ur friends son, is dating ur ex....i get it! Then again, naw, i don't 😅
Chris is 100% correct. Scottie didn't come into as anything special. He grew into being a great players. There were actually other players that could've filled Pippen's spot. Would the Bulls the 6 titles, maybe not. Maybe they only get 3 or 4. It's possible to believe that once Jordan won one, he'd get more, because his goal was to top Magic, Bird and Isaiah.
Scottie was not a great player. 16ppg is not great. He basically got the career stats of Shawn Marion but woth worse 3pt shooting
Maybe they would have won 7 or more. Remember the migraine game...
Scottie was a 2 time 1st all nba when Mj retired dummy
And he still ain't nuthin special bruh!
@@sonnyallagonez5776 you sound dumb dude got 6 rings 2 3 peats
Thank you Chris broussrd for speaking the truth about Scottie pippen! A whole helluva lot of times Scottie was a liability on off! Seriously! & There were plenty of great def players in that era lots better than pippen
Pippen has the deepest voice in history.
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Scottie is bitter for leaving so much money on the table, but taking it out on Jordan is pathetic. Jordan has always given Scottie his props. It’s a bad look for him because nothing he says will dull the aura of Jordan’s legacy. But he is tarnishing his own with these ongoing salty takes.
Pippen is extra salty. MJ was dropping 35 ppg and winning scoring titles with great defense before Pip.
Not playoff games
He's salty because MJs son is obliterating the jaws and walls of mother of his children, and the fact that everyone knows she's a 304. Out of respect for Pippen she could've at least kept her 304ing quiet and not let the world know.
@@dparks2856 MJ averaged 45/5/5 on 56% in the first series he ever played with Pippen to advance lol...are you one of those people that say MJ was 1-9 without pip and try to say pip was the reason MJ finally got out the first round?
@@kevinflowers463
So
Scottie is one of my favorite player ever and it is sad to see him like this now. He should get help to be in peace with himself.
@Imm85 Yeah, but why should Scottie care? She’s washed up. Getting hurt over these women nowadays is for young guys. Scottie is a lame
"basketball is a team game" -scottie
"why's scottie so bitter" - every Jordan stan
Jordan was a gun he ain’t lying
If u go look up stats...just stats Scottie has a very very valid point.
Seriously Scottie? And I'll correct Chris, Scottie Pippen has 6 championships BECAUSE he played with MJ.. period!
Mj has 0 chips without Pippen
@@dparks2856 he’s gonna ignore that he’s too much of a fanboy
@@raystroman4473 Scottie has 0 championships without MJ.. What exactly is the point?
@@raystroman4473 Quick question, how many of the 6 championships did Scottie Pippen win ANY type of MVP?? Please don't rush, I'll wait forever
@@dparks2856 Now he's gonna ignore my question. See how that works
IF MJ was “Horrible “ his 1st 2nd 3rd year in the League…. Was Lebron ALSO “horrible” ??
•MJs Rookie year (he avgd) had 7.3 more pts, 1 more reb, = ast, 0.8 more stl, 0.1 more blks, 9.7% more fg%, 9.1% more ft% than Lebrons Rookie year 🤔
• MJ led the bulls in pts, reb, ast, stl, & ft% also was Top 3 in fg% and Tied as top blocker w/ 2 other teammates 🤔
• MJ broke his foot year 2
• Year 3 MJ avgd more pts, stl, blks + better ft% than Lebrons 3rd year , they Tied in fg% and Lebron had basically avgd only 2 more reb and 2 more ast than MJ 🤔
• Scotty why didnt you mention how “horrible” Lebron was when he came into the league?? 🤣🤣🤣
Told y’all. Look how quick the mj fans start downplaying how great pippen was.
Clearly bron fans isn’t the only fan base that makes it seem like he did it alone.
I also find it funny that stats matter in this argument but with other players, it would be based on their win loss during that time, not the amount of points averaged or mvps won.
the problem is MJ is the one being downplayed if you see the title clearly
It's the "Jordan was a horrible player" from a former teammate that has people upset. You can watch MJs first few games on TH-cam and recognize that he was going to be a special player. Saying he's a horrible teammate is questionable, but I'll take that, but to blatantly say he was a horrible player sounds super salty and bitter to me. Just come out and say I'm mad because the mother of my children is a 304 and the whole world knows it and I'm mad because MJs son is obliterating my ex and mother of my children's jaws and walls. I can at least accept him being angry and mad about that.
For a moment I thought I was having a stroke listening to Pippen saying MJ played “horribly” before he arrived. Thank God they cut the audio before I fell off the chair 😂
"Jordan Was a Horrible Player"...Totally Agreed...Was Absolutely STUNNED and Had to Rewind Few Times to Make Sure i Was Not Dreaming
Pippen was one of my favorite players ever! I have him in the top 10 most impactful players ever right behind Hakeem, don't forget the Bulls dynasty started with Pippen and ended with Pippen, but hey Jordan is still the best player i've seen but i understand to win you need Pippen
🤡 16PPG career is barely a top 75 I would bump him to top 100 with new players like Jimmy butler who are much better
Why wasn’t he showing up during the playoffs then? I would take Horace Grant over Pippen for the playoffs ( but I would take Pippen over Grant for the regular season).
It's easier to imagine the end of the world than imagine a world where Jordan isn't the greatest player ever.
And that's sad 😂
Lol he's not tho. We say lebron. Yall say 6 rings. We say 11 rings. Yall say they don't count cause of the era. Mj fanboys are funny.
Scottie is proof that just because someone was a good player, doesn't mean his commentary is accurate or even justified
@@AlexLopez-hx5bl You misunderstand. I'm specifically talking about people like Broussard.
@@AlexLopez-hx5bl lebron not the goat 🤣🤣
One thing Chris B is right about is that Pippen dropping 30 was a rarity....that DID NOT happen very often at all.
Yeah Ephraim wildin. Making Pip sound like AI or Steph offfensively tf 😆
1st Mj was not allowing no one to be the scorer he didn't want them to pass the ball to Cartwright
@@bern717 Exactly lol. Ephraim went too far with that one
@@titandmc8111 Phil Jackson made Jordan trust his teammates. The problem was, they couldn't produce like he could. And Cartwright isn't the topic. We're talking about Pippen getting 30...it didn't have very often at all.
He could score 30 at will if he wanted to but he had to gaurd the best player and rebound and pass,I seen scotty put up 40 on my pacers live downtown,him and Jordan had 40 that game.
Scottie mad mad 😂
If it wasn't for Scottie MJ DOESN'T GET 6 RINGS!!! What Scottie SHOULD have said was MJ was a horrible TEAM player! Nobody has EVER said MJ wasn't a great offensive player...he got HIS points! When Scottie got there he was given the freedom to do his thing while PIP took the defensive responsibility and allowed MJ to rest against inferior guards!
Pippen is one of the most underrated players in the history of the NBA☝🏼
He’s consistently ranked in the 25-40 area in the greatest players in history….how the hell is he underrated.
No he’s not lol
There are certain media personalities, now some players it seems, who are creating the myth that MJ's career was a myth. Part of the effort to diminish Jordan is to boost Lebron's claim as GOAT - this is mostly media personalities. But some former players are pushing this revisionist history for personal reasons. However, for those of us who watched it night after night, we know who THE KEY player was, who the most exciting player was, who stirred the drink that was the championship Bulls teams... Michael Jordan. It wasn't a myth when it was happening and it's not a myth now. It's history.
@@paulhammer3213xactly what we are seeing NOW are media personalities and former players getting tired of this over-glorification and mythological narrative of Jordan’s greatness like he wasn’t a degenerate gambler and toxic teammate who verbally and physically attacked players. The winning superseded his maladaptive behavior and people overlooked it, but he is not above reproach or criticism. You would think Jordan only played 6 years and didn’t get swept by Orlando and out played by Anfernee Hardaway or when he was crying about Detroit’s physical defense and having compromised reporters writing think pieces and editorials on Detroit lol
@@Supersupremegang👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Pippen just sounds insane at this point lol
This Salam guy doesn't know much about pippen..He shouldn't talk about pippen...pippen would not give u 30..Pippen was a defender.
People forget how great of a Defender Ron Harper was
Bingo. That second 3peat was the best defensive team ever, imo
Yeah that same defense he was putting on Mike as a Clippers
@@delmarfrazier2727 And on the Cavs?
Scottie is saying a lot of things for shock value purposes. He is saying a lot of these things out of his hurt. The brother is seething in hurt. He feels betrayed by Mike’s viewpoint of him in “The Last Dance” it was not a bad take. It was how MJ viewed it but I guess Scottie took what MJ said to heart. Scottie has been through hell considering his personal situations in business, marriage and not on the court, he has taken a lot of L’s and now this so now this is his way of fighting back whether inaccurate in other ppl’s eyes or not, it’s his truth.
The only thing jordan said about him in that doc that I think Scottie could have seen as harsh was that jordan said Scottie was being a bit selfish during his contract negotiations when Scottie admitted that instead of rehabbing in the summertime, he did his rehab when the season started because he was upset with how negotiations were gong. That’s it. Jordan has always praised Scottie. Always.
@@TA-ht4jo he also said if you stand next to Scottie you make him stronger. I don’t think that’s an insult & I know MJ didn’t mean it that way, but I can see how a person could take that as a slight too.
@@TheRealReal337 and it’s true. Pippen was mentally being destroyed by the Pistons. Jordan hit the weight room and just kept coming back stronger and Pippen started to toughen up from 90 on.
U mad at the man that help u win 6 rings Clown Nation
I know one things for sure when Chris says “imma let you go before I say mine” he’s in fact going first and going on a rant 😂😂😂😂
Glad you peeped that
😂😂😂 caught that too
And Scottie was NOT the defensive anchor until about his 3rd year late into his 4th year. Pippen did not like to take charges-he was timid his first few years against ECF rivals like the Knicks, Detroit, Indiana etc.
We all know Scottie's most recent bank statement has a Klutch Sports deposit. Their shadow CEO sent Pippen a "distract everyone from me getting swept" check 🤣🤣
I was thinking the same thing! Klutch cutting a lot of checks to throw a blanket over that sweep!
For all the credit Jordan gets for being a great defender, can someone please name 10 star shooting guards he played against during his title runs? Ill give you 2 Clyde and Reggie...name 10 more... Google time
They quiet now loll😂
It’s a different game, guards weren’t the primary offensive focus until Jordan took it to the next level. Besides Reggie and Clyde, there were some good guards in the 80/90s that never get discussed. Mitch Richmond, penny, sidney moncrief, rolondo blackman, spreewell, Michael finely, iverson to name a few. It was an inside out game, great centers were part of that era and that was the strategy for a long while. The rules were also different for bigs, they can park there in the lane and body people driving to the hoop. Just like todays game, how many great bigs are there? Definitely not as many as before, but that doesn’t take away from one’s greatness. Everyone has to adjust to the style of play and take advantage where they can be most effective.
@C C
The best players were centers and they couldn't guard MJ and he couldn't guard them
@@dparks2856 that’s my point, it’s a different game. Guards were not the usual focal point for offense. Teams all looked for dominant bigs. The nba now is gaurd dominant and less big centric. Nba changed the old rules to increase offensive scoring and pace by removing old rules. These rules gave more opportunities for guards to be focal point of an offense. Hence why there are so many high scoring guards in todays league. It’s not like guards just started evolving just now, that would be ignorant to say. They just weren’t the primary focus in that era. My comment was to the person that asked about guards. We’ll how many great bigs are in this era, jokic, kat, and can you name me 10 others? It’s not the same game, that’s my point.