Notice from slavic standpoint: Kikimora is most commonly a lesser water spirit of a mature woman who died drwning. Drowned maid is called rusalka. They have lots of ranks and names, but none of them are connected with home spirits. Ikitursa is sky walrus inn finno-ugrian culture (we are really close). Tursa is common word for walrus, yes. But ikutorsa isnt the same with ikitursa. On the contrary, ikitursa was the one killing suids.
The HAC bonus to disintegrator maximum damage does not work the way you seem to think it works. That bonus means the Ikitursa's disintegrator has a higher cap to the maximum damage it can put out once fully spooled up. So if a precursor weapon can spool up to 150% increased damage, it can now increase to 250% on the Ikitursa. Yeah, it's pretty monstrous.
I noticed when you jumped into the site at the end of the video that you are a fair distance away. I tend to create a BM as I warp in (about 300km(, warp back out, look at any enemy ship and then warp right to a structure near the enemy, burn the prop mod after landing and orbit comfortably and watch the enemy die. May make running the sites a little bit quicker from the start instead of free burning at an angle initially. Cheers
I hadn't really considered HACs for these sites - usually ive been just running a rather bling gila with surprisingly fast clear times. Might take a look at the HACs. Thanks!
Honestly, the Gila is what inspired these. When I first started C3 ratting, all the information I could find was "Fly a T3C, or a bling Gila, or a Rattlesnake or Praxis" I'm a cruiser guy, and the Gila bored the crap outta me so I wanted to try other things... and the HACs? Arguably BETTER than the Gila and definitely cheaper. Check out the full playlist, I covered them all with a round up!
Its good to reiterate that the Heavy Assault Cruiser skill affects ALL Heavy Assault Cruisers, not just the Ikitursa.. so getting it to 5 will help ALL the HACs you have access to.
As a Finn I find it absolutely hilarious that CCP named the ship after basically the Finnish version of Cthulhu, also those Triglavian ships at least in my opinion are just downright gorgeous looking
Those pirate ships are some of my favorite ships in the game. Fortunately, my skills are perfect or near perfect on the whole tree. Expensive and and definitely a shit magnet, but that's all part of EVE.
I believe a higher level of HAC skill Does NOT increase how fast it spools. It only increases the max spool it can reach. Therefore it is only worth it to train up, if you are reaching max spool on your targets.
I feel like this is something some YTers miss. I'm glad someoen has done the math and found the best ship for a sight or a abyssal that can max/min the site...but i'm more interested in one size fits all b/c its cheaper to have 1 ship to do it all than 5 different ships that do 1 task super good
Just came back to Eve after a hiatus and noticed i can fly the Ikitursa, so i was wondering what i could do with it and this video popped up, didn't think of using it for C3's but it sounds pretty good! Also: I'm going to fanfest, and sharing a few drinks over wormhole banter doesn't sound bad either
I should get into eve again as well. Loved the spreadsheets and everything. Sadly I don't like hanging out in voice channels, which severely limits the fun to be had lol
Voice isn't 100% necessary, but it definitely helps. We have a few folks who join voice just to have quick response in J-Space, but don't talk much. That said, we also have one heck of a giggle in voice Comms!
@@captainbenzie Just installed eve and connected my accounts. No omega state yet though. Lots of stuff changed until my last login. Characters are from 2009 for reference, haven't been playing for a day or two lol
Try running 2 enams, ctype or t2. Your damage control is cool but its not doing work 90% of the time so thats why you get in that situation. The reactive is okay but uses cap and takes time. They deal different types of damage back and forth so its always moving the resists, not filling your kin hole like you think its only reacting to the damage type witch means also the resistances are a bit late then the next damage type hits and your its late to move it again. Just run Energized they rock. I'm about to try a similar fit right now with 100mn compact, 2x tracking computers with range, large fleet bat. 3xentropics, 2 ctype enams, 1 med armor rep. 1x ancil, 1x nano pump, same high slots.
Whilst I like your suggestions, you misunderstand the fit as it is. With an ADC, I can absorb the big hits I know I'll be taking in Outposts. It's also amazing to help you get away if a PvPer does manage to drop on you. That's why I run it. The vast majority of the time, you don't need it at all, let alone "better", it's there for when it IS needed. As for the Reactives, Sleepers don't cause it to go back and forth. Different sites have different ships with different weapon preference, and the ship you're using will do better or worse against each weapon type. In this case, almost all of the turrets apply poorly and very little damage, so the Reactive only responds to the missiles incoming applied damage, meaning it stays firmly on the Explosive/Kinetic side of the spectrum making it flat out better than an Energised, especially since Reactives do not receive the stacking penalty that literally every other resistance amplifier does.
@@captainbenzie I sig tanked it flew the 100 AB fit. Its pretty amazing I actually dropped more of my tank and added more DPS. All of these wormhole sites seem quite easy if you know how to mitigate the damage 10mm tengu is absurdly powerful. I was able to run up to c4 with VedMac and icky though I wouldn't say it was profitable because of the amount of mitigation time you spend. You cannot just orbit the battleships and hope they miss you while all that tackle jumps on so you have to deal with tackle at range while keeping high traversal and then spiral into the battleships although it's fun to attempt I have have a lot of experience since 2009 running level 5 solo so this actually is a bit of a breath of fresh air having a new challenge. Iki came pretty close to what the tangu can get done in nearly the same amount of time it would also scale well with buddies. Dropping local for remote repairs and stepping up to c5s and whatnot. Iki and tengu I would say are the top two choices for soloing up to c4's under battle ship with mitigation in mind Rather than face tank setups I don't think those will bode well in a c4. Give it a shot man live on the edge it takes them from mundane to exciting All you need is 100 MN a single rep and gank the lows. Do not orbit do not approach approach. Use a 45° angle if you need maximum amount of traversal keep them to the left or right side of your ship while also going up and down the more directions they're tracking the harder to hit. My tank barely ever moves an inch. If you're really worried start manually piloting the ship towards celestial bodies you can warp out to but do not just click approach on the Sun and hope you can tank it while you warp out that could be a really bad angle or it could bring your traversal down to zero to turn around. If you're interested in any of our fits or what we do or just want to kick it with some dudes hit us up in game man My name's deadly plague. We do a lot of theory crafting and extremely difficult things not because they pay well but because we can.
great fit, only issue i got is the faction wpn.. i would use the t2 if you have the specialization skills, spec skills only work with t2 wpns. t2 + spec skill gives more dmg, and the tracking is the same with the faction. Please dont think im bashing, really good video!
I was under the impression from the descriptions (and from a brief bit of testing) that the spec skills work with the ammo, not the weapon. ie Specialisation affects Occult in the Veles.
@@captainbenzie i thought that for awhile too, but in the skill book itself states 2% bonus per medium weapons. nothing about charges. alliance and I had a debate about this awhile ago and tested it out. maybe it has changed since last year.. o7 EDIT: also if that were true, then you would get bonus's from the charge and wpns. tracking is the same for all the wpns still
Just to let you know the Velens is so good, that even with the weapon spec trained to V (and only then) you'll get a dps increase of 19 DPS when using the T2, after 60 cycles! So no it is not worth using the T2 over the Velens, not even with the spec trained to lvl 5.
This drek can do all c3 sites not sure about ofs time [Drekavac, Drekavac C3 solo-] Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Multispectrum Energized Membrane II Reactive Armor Hardener Multispectrum Energized Membrane II Entropic Radiation Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II 10MN Afterburner II Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery Cap Recharger II Stasis Webifier II Heavy Entropic Disintegrator II, Occult M Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II Armor Command Burst II, Armor Energizing Charge Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II Medium Nanobot Accelerator I Caldari Navy Hornet x5 Caldari Navy Vespa x5 Mystic M x1000 Occult M x2500 Armor Energizing Charge x900 Meson Exotic Plasma M x1000 Nanite Repair Paste x200 Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8 Mobile Depot x1 Mobile Tractor Unit x1 Core Probe Launcher II x1
Hey guys, I'll be going to fan fest this year. First year for me, and I've not played with an alliance in a long time, so if anyone needs a merc let me know!
Yes, easily if you fly smart. It's also a terrifying PvP threat to folks. As with all my videos though, I'm not saying "this is the best", I'm just saying "If you like this ship, here's something you can do with it"
So you show all the vids about how to run the c3's but.....how do you sell off the material you come out of the sites with? like whats a good strat to use when dealing with c3 loot
So I've covered this in other videos, but quite right, not this one. Blue Loot is sold to certain NPC stations. Right click a stack, check market info, and look for a station with Buy Orders with nice big, round numbers. That's where you head. You can also use EVEMarketer to find a close by station (you may have a station 4 jumps away in a different region, rather than 14 jumps in the same one). You can find EVEMarketer here: evemarketer.com/
@@sir_slimestone3797 Yeah, i heard about it. So i its useless to try nos on rats in the most pve situations becouse (in my opinion) if your cap constantly got beat up to such low level that nos eventually start to work - we are doing something wrong.
Notice from slavic standpoint:
Kikimora is most commonly a lesser water spirit of a mature woman who died drwning. Drowned maid is called rusalka. They have lots of ranks and names, but none of them are connected with home spirits.
Ikitursa is sky walrus inn finno-ugrian culture (we are really close). Tursa is common word for walrus, yes. But ikutorsa isnt the same with ikitursa. On the contrary, ikitursa was the one killing suids.
Thank you for the explanation!
I find it funny that Ikitursa is a squid killer, considering it's the Caldari Navy developed version of Vedmak + Eagle.
The HAC bonus to disintegrator maximum damage does not work the way you seem to think it works. That bonus means the Ikitursa's disintegrator has a higher cap to the maximum damage it can put out once fully spooled up. So if a precursor weapon can spool up to 150% increased damage, it can now increase to 250% on the Ikitursa. Yeah, it's pretty monstrous.
Correct. I've since learned this, but the ramp up remains the same.
I noticed when you jumped into the site at the end of the video that you are a fair distance away. I tend to create a BM as I warp in (about 300km(, warp back out, look at any enemy ship and then warp right to a structure near the enemy, burn the prop mod after landing and orbit comfortably and watch the enemy die. May make running the sites a little bit quicker from the start instead of free burning at an angle initially. Cheers
For slower ships and certain sites, I absolutely do this. The Ikitursa, I find it doesn't need it and it's faster to just go for it ☺️
@@captainbenzie That makes sense. Thank you for the feedback!
Hmmm, food for thought. Thank you for the revisit. Much appreciation for this vid.
My pleasure!
Two months later.....I love this ship
I just trained into the Iki! So excited to start flying it!
Excellent ship!
Great ship 😊 but 3 times price of cerberus , would strugle to bring such a costly ship in to wh, but the ship is great
Absolutely agreed. It's also four times my Sacrilege fit 😅
I hadn't really considered HACs for these sites - usually ive been just running a rather bling gila with surprisingly fast clear times. Might take a look at the HACs. Thanks!
Honestly, the Gila is what inspired these. When I first started C3 ratting, all the information I could find was "Fly a T3C, or a bling Gila, or a Rattlesnake or Praxis"
I'm a cruiser guy, and the Gila bored the crap outta me so I wanted to try other things... and the HACs? Arguably BETTER than the Gila and definitely cheaper. Check out the full playlist, I covered them all with a round up!
Its good to reiterate that the Heavy Assault Cruiser skill affects ALL Heavy Assault Cruisers, not just the Ikitursa.. so getting it to 5 will help ALL the HACs you have access to.
Well, yes 😊
Vagabond can do all C3 sites, pretty cheap. You need to manual fly it, but it does the job and pretty fast.
Yup, done several videos on it, probably my favourite ship right now!
An awesome revised review. Thanks alot.
Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love the Ikitursa, with the High Grade Mimesis implants is supposed to rack up the power of the entropics but it takes time.
Mimesis is NASTY
The Ikky is my second fav. ship next to the Leshak.
Both great ships!
As a Finn I find it absolutely hilarious that CCP named the ship after basically the Finnish version of Cthulhu, also those Triglavian ships at least in my opinion are just downright gorgeous looking
Agreed on both fronts!! 😊
Those pirate ships are some of my favorite ships in the game. Fortunately, my skills are perfect or near perfect on the whole tree. Expensive and and definitely a shit magnet, but that's all part of EVE.
I believe a higher level of HAC skill Does NOT increase how fast it spools. It only increases the max spool it can reach. Therefore it is only worth it to train up, if you are reaching max spool on your targets.
While watching that art of the video, I was saying the same thing. While benzie killed the Battleships, I saw he NEVER reached ship's max DPS.
Correct. HAC5 isn't super necessary but the range bonus does really help with some ships.
If you want to ramp faster, use Rapid Firing implant. It helps a lot.
I feel like this is something some YTers miss. I'm glad someoen has done the math and found the best ship for a sight or a abyssal that can max/min the site...but i'm more interested in one size fits all b/c its cheaper to have 1 ship to do it all than 5 different ships that do 1 task super good
That's the whole series! Roundup coming soon!!
There is a 100mn ab fit floating about, and uses a small armour rep, which takes a lot less damage.
Great fit, works really well for PvP but found that it essentially causes tracking issues in PvE.
The Iki is literally my favorite ship in the game. It is an absolute beast.
Isn't it just!!
I love how the ship looks
It's a beautiful ship
I love the trig ships I'm aiming to own all of them and use them to their full potential I hope they release more trig ships and possibly drones
What would Trig drones be like??
with desintegrators I assume @@captainbenzie
Just came back to Eve after a hiatus and noticed i can fly the Ikitursa, so i was wondering what i could do with it and this video popped up, didn't think of using it for C3's but it sounds pretty good!
Also: I'm going to fanfest, and sharing a few drinks over wormhole banter doesn't sound bad either
I should get into eve again as well. Loved the spreadsheets and everything. Sadly I don't like hanging out in voice channels, which severely limits the fun to be had lol
Glad the video arrived at an opportune time! That would be awesome! See you there!
Voice isn't 100% necessary, but it definitely helps. We have a few folks who join voice just to have quick response in J-Space, but don't talk much. That said, we also have one heck of a giggle in voice Comms!
@@captainbenzie Just installed eve and connected my accounts. No omega state yet though. Lots of stuff changed until my last login. Characters are from 2009 for reference, haven't been playing for a day or two lol
Try running 2 enams, ctype or t2. Your damage control is cool but its not doing work 90% of the time so thats why you get in that situation. The reactive is okay but uses cap and takes time. They deal different types of damage back and forth so its always moving the resists, not filling your kin hole like you think its only reacting to the damage type witch means also the resistances are a bit late then the next damage type hits and your its late to move it again. Just run Energized they rock. I'm about to try a similar fit right now with 100mn compact, 2x tracking computers with range, large fleet bat. 3xentropics, 2 ctype enams, 1 med armor rep. 1x ancil, 1x nano pump, same high slots.
Whilst I like your suggestions, you misunderstand the fit as it is. With an ADC, I can absorb the big hits I know I'll be taking in Outposts. It's also amazing to help you get away if a PvPer does manage to drop on you. That's why I run it. The vast majority of the time, you don't need it at all, let alone "better", it's there for when it IS needed.
As for the Reactives, Sleepers don't cause it to go back and forth. Different sites have different ships with different weapon preference, and the ship you're using will do better or worse against each weapon type. In this case, almost all of the turrets apply poorly and very little damage, so the Reactive only responds to the missiles incoming applied damage, meaning it stays firmly on the Explosive/Kinetic side of the spectrum making it flat out better than an Energised, especially since Reactives do not receive the stacking penalty that literally every other resistance amplifier does.
@@captainbenzie I sig tanked it flew the 100 AB fit. Its pretty amazing I actually dropped more of my tank and added more DPS. All of these wormhole sites seem quite easy if you know how to mitigate the damage 10mm tengu is absurdly powerful. I was able to run up to c4 with VedMac and icky though I wouldn't say it was profitable because of the amount of mitigation time you spend. You cannot just orbit the battleships and hope they miss you while all that tackle jumps on so you have to deal with tackle at range while keeping high traversal and then spiral into the battleships although it's fun to attempt I have have a lot of experience since 2009 running level 5 solo so this actually is a bit of a breath of fresh air having a new challenge. Iki came pretty close to what the tangu can get done in nearly the same amount of time it would also scale well with buddies. Dropping local for remote repairs and stepping up to c5s and whatnot. Iki and tengu I would say are the top two choices for soloing up to c4's under battle ship with mitigation in mind Rather than face tank setups I don't think those will bode well in a c4. Give it a shot man live on the edge it takes them from mundane to exciting All you need is 100 MN a single rep and gank the lows. Do not orbit do not approach approach. Use a 45° angle if you need maximum amount of traversal keep them to the left or right side of your ship while also going up and down the more directions they're tracking the harder to hit. My tank barely ever moves an inch. If you're really worried start manually piloting the ship towards celestial bodies you can warp out to but do not just click approach on the Sun and hope you can tank it while you warp out that could be a really bad angle or it could bring your traversal down to zero to turn around. If you're interested in any of our fits or what we do or just want to kick it with some dudes hit us up in game man My name's deadly plague. We do a lot of theory crafting and extremely difficult things not because they pay well but because we can.
get rid of the nano accelerator pump and use two auxiliary for more stable cap
The only reason I don't use auxiliary is upkeep cost
great fit, only issue i got is the faction wpn.. i would use the t2 if you have the specialization skills, spec skills only work with t2 wpns. t2 + spec skill gives more dmg, and the tracking is the same with the faction. Please dont think im bashing, really good video!
I was under the impression from the descriptions (and from a brief bit of testing) that the spec skills work with the ammo, not the weapon. ie Specialisation affects Occult in the Veles.
@@captainbenzie i thought that for awhile too, but in the skill book itself states 2% bonus per medium weapons. nothing about charges. alliance and I had a debate about this awhile ago and tested it out. maybe it has changed since last year.. o7 EDIT: also if that were true, then you would get bonus's from the charge and wpns. tracking is the same for all the wpns still
The main reason to use the faction gun is for the ease of fitting compared to t2.
@@paladinrpg totally agree, its great for if you need to manage powergrid/cpu or just dont have the skills yet for the t2
Just to let you know the Velens is so good, that even with the weapon spec trained to V (and only then) you'll get a dps increase of 19 DPS when using the T2, after 60 cycles!
So no it is not worth using the T2 over the Velens, not even with the spec trained to lvl 5.
This drek can do all c3 sites not sure about ofs time
[Drekavac, Drekavac C3 solo-]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Multispectrum Energized Membrane II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Multispectrum Energized Membrane II
Entropic Radiation Sink II
Medium Armor Repairer II
10MN Afterburner II
Republic Fleet Large Cap Battery
Cap Recharger II
Stasis Webifier II
Heavy Entropic Disintegrator II, Occult M
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Armor Command Burst II, Armor Energizing Charge
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Caldari Navy Hornet x5
Caldari Navy Vespa x5
Mystic M x1000
Occult M x2500
Armor Energizing Charge x900
Meson Exotic Plasma M x1000
Nanite Repair Paste x200
Sisters Core Scanner Probe x8
Mobile Depot x1
Mobile Tractor Unit x1
Core Probe Launcher II x1
I'll give it a try!!
Love the Ikky... but so damn expensive.
Yeah, not a cheap ship! 😅
Hey guys, I'll be going to fan fest this year. First year for me, and I've not played with an alliance in a long time, so if anyone needs a merc let me know!
Awesome! I'm really excited for Fanfest!!
Actually interested in trying this fit but I am wondering what kind of isk/hour you can expect from it as a baseline.
42-45m per site, with sites taking 12-17 mins.
Concern is the profit C3 makes is it really worth spending 1.1b isk for 90m a Hour. Can you make that back and profit before getting blown up.
Yes, easily if you fly smart. It's also a terrifying PvP threat to folks. As with all my videos though, I'm not saying "this is the best", I'm just saying "If you like this ship, here's something you can do with it"
Plus I am at level 5 and trained everything there is to train.
So you show all the vids about how to run the c3's but.....how do you sell off the material you come out of the sites with? like whats a good strat to use when dealing with c3 loot
So I've covered this in other videos, but quite right, not this one.
Blue Loot is sold to certain NPC stations. Right click a stack, check market info, and look for a station with Buy Orders with nice big, round numbers. That's where you head.
You can also use EVEMarketer to find a close by station (you may have a station 4 jumps away in a different region, rather than 14 jumps in the same one). You can find EVEMarketer here: evemarketer.com/
My fault I didn't do enough deep dives after finding your channel. @@captainbenzie
Question : what ships would you bring if you where 2 players and very low on isk ….😊😢
Praxises
The cheapest ship that can run all C3 sites with one fit is the Sacrilege (with Cerberus just behind). Praxis is also good.
When I use my Triglavian ships I activate my mimesis set clone
Nice!
How much of a force multiplier is the mimesis set?
@@ottomcannick7698 with the Veles, 2 damage mods in the lowslots my dps in pyfa says 2.2k with a Zorja 2.6k
Crap, that cap delta...where them Ashimmus at?😂
Designed to clear the sites, not to deal with a fleet of Ashimmus 😉
Can it FINNISH all C3s with one fit??!!! *drumspike*
😉
Isn't it that NOSferatu works only vs capsuller ships and its useless in PVE?
I tried it on my Mach vs rats and it did nothing to my capacitor.
Nosf works on rats, you just need to have less capacitor than them, each rat has a certain amount that just doesn't get used and is immune to neuting
Sir_Slimestone has it spot on.
@@sir_slimestone3797 Yeah, i heard about it. So i its useless to try nos on rats in the most pve situations becouse (in my opinion) if your cap constantly got beat up to such low level that nos eventually start to work - we are doing something wrong.
@@Agnus78 Actually it's great for resisting neuts, just another tool to stay cap stable
@@Agnus78most Marauders PvE fits for C5 rating use The NOS to be able of clear The Drifters.
How much does the damage end up after spooling? Anyone knows?
Usually +150%. A fully skilled Ikitursa is +300%, so 500dps will max out at 2000 on the Ikitursa.
Can you teach me how to live in wormhole space
1. Jump into wormhole.
2. Don't jump back out.
Viola!!
silly thing to do
🤡
@@captainbenzie isnt that hours and hours of gameplay just to make a little video???
@@AccountClosed2024 I mean, yeah? But isn't that the point, to play the game, have fun?
@@captainbenzie thats being really devoted
Aren't all the ships there to use? Fantastic to see how they all work. Thanks for the silly thing 😅