Hawks may have to play at an interstate home ground in the finals, maybe even twice, but their record shows it doesn't matter where they play the consistency is still there and if they can weather that storm they end up at home at the MCG likely against an interstate team so that challenge flips, if they don't have to play GWS who are very similar to them or Geelong with their long history of close finishes usually in front (except for important finals) then all bodes well, they may finish as high as 6th yet.
Giants supporter here. Looking fwd to this week's episode of "the stats don't lie". Seems they do if you just decide to look at the stats that back up your one eyed viewpoint.
Why are we surprised Jeremy McGovern has been the best defender for 10 years. But West Coast produces the best, Guy McKenna, Glen Jackovich. Darren Glass, Tom Barrass and Jeremy McGovern etc.
@@njokic2176 2 of the best key backs in comp barrass and battle end of year releases cissily forward and weddle to mid thats a cup team and just the beggining! Next 4 years we will get all the best free agents and another 3 cups! Second youngest team in comp 13 of best 22 under 23 years of age! 18 19 20 21 year olds how good will they be in there PRIME?? Its hawks again! Cups in 60s 70s 80s 90s 2000s 2010s with 2 dynasty best teams ever! Was that a fluke?? Lost buddy the best half forward maybe ever then went on to SMASH SWANS SMASH EAGLES! Fluke! 80s team played in 8 cups won 5 fluke?? They no what there doing and i aint going to share that information but trust me that information works history dont lie budd!!! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆
I began to think that goal-kicking practice was banned at WB training, but then I heard that Brad Johnson was "helping" the forwards. Is Brad a poor teacher, or are the players there poor students? I would instruct the WB forwards to close their eyes when they kick. At least then they might accidentally kick straight.
@@stevelozevski8151 Well LDU IS 6th for clearances. That’s something. And Xerri is 2nd for clearances himself. I think that North is up there for stoppages in general. Stats don’t lie.
Geezus Steve you are exhausting. Make your own conclusions. What I do know is that Gawn is not in the top 10 of any of these categories though he is up there for marks behind the ball. Hit outs to advantage I’ve no idea.
Clearly you didn’t listen Hoyne backed him up and on Friday Kane was saying other people were also talking allir up which have no affiliation with port
@@samuelbartel3104 I didn’t say he was that far off. Andrews and Gov have had far better season. They also both mentioned 6-8 week period, so him being in AA discussion is silly
All of us would look pretty sh-tful if we had to provide opinions and predictions on the footy, especially in a season like this. Who expected the Pies to be rolled out with a squad like theirs? Who expected Hawks to be in the eight at this end of the season?
Giants can win it. I don't think they will. Close recently. Its not always just bad luck that teams seem to miss in front of goal. Pressure perhaps? Runout of energy, but it keeps happening. I have seen a few teams kick 50 points early and run out of steam only to lose by games end. Good teams. Hard to work it out.
Hang on golf coast kick straight and they are 6 goals up in the last quarter against bombers??? But if bombers kick straight in the last quarter and they kick 10 goals??
@@Josh82420don't think that's relevant. Tom has been one of, if not the best key defender in comp for at least 5 years. No other key defenders are tagged the way he is.
Agree Geelong are loitering ready to launch Scott is the best game strategy & tactical coach in the comp With great List management & recruiting I am a Hawk supporter
@@cweatherfella547sam is the best coach! Cats got us at home with no calsher ginni or ciss and lewis did his knee so we had 1 key forward chol no ginni and no ciss! Lets play them this week at the g with ciss 1 arm ginni and calsher see who wins! See who best coach is with second youngest list to the old slow cats! Our speed and elite ball users would do the same as blues! A smashing! Cats 7 best players are over 32! They get a clear home ground advantage! The only vic team to have that! Put them at g for home ground or under the roof see were they finish end of year! Would not make the 8! No chance! Cats are still hanging on to dear life those champions and in 2 years time its all over unless they can trade 7 stars next few years to replace them! They wont be winning any cup this year or for at least another 7 years depending on if they go down the trade route or rebuild! With 7 of there best so old and they are going to give up a first rnd pick for solid b grade player in baily smith! Who is that replacing dangerfield the irishman come on he is no were near as good as them! They are going to get another hawkins and cameron😂 please they are so arrogant it will bite them HARD! Name me a club that has stayed up in say top 8 forever? NONE NOT 1! Look at dees look at tigers look at eagles cats day is coming real soon! I hope they keep giving up high draft picks coz it will destroy them dead LAST! See how my comment goes in a few years time!! In last 10 years cats 1 flag hawks 3! And there is another 3 to 4 coming next 10 years for hawks! The amount of star free agents that will want to come to hawks next 5 years will be MASSIVE! See if cats win ONE flag next 10 years! So in 10 years time since 10 years ago hawks 6 to 7 flags cats 1! Maybe 2 if they rebuild! Sam best coach in league! Easily! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆coming!
brent and sinclair did not come from nowhere. it was clear to see that sinclair was a great player in 2021 too. and with brent daniels it was clear to see he was fuckin elite when i first saw him play lmao.
@@sanchezgaming2146 Wilkie ain't shit? AA fullback last year and been one of the best defenders in the league over the past few years. Just say you don't watch footy. As for Battle, I'm happy with the compensation pick we're gonna get for him and turn it into a gun midfielder which we desperately need. He's been sick for us this season, but is replaceable. I hope he kills it at the Hawks and achieves the success he's after
@@TNT_12 Wilkie doesn’t catch the eye. Nobody watching the saints currently. Saints are and have always been the most mid club of the comp. Keep crying
They are flat out wrong. I'll bet anyone on here that that victory against collingwood last friday will be the catalyst for getting their premiership quest back on track. Yes, they played like crap, but they found a win and grinded out a win and will now finish 1st = 2 home games, build some form and they will b getting all their injured players back. They'll win it and ill bet anyone on here. That fri night victory will end up being the most significant win of the year of any team
Cats score from turnover avg is 49.5pts per game, ranked 6th. AFL avg 47.1pts. They ground out 3 wins in a different way recently. To say the aren't threatening offensively is a brain dead take. They have the 5th highest scoring offence.
Accuracy is so important it is a disgrace that COACHES and team selectors have NEVER paid any attention to it. Ditto now for ruckmen and the big fullforward standing in the goal square. Hawthorn won 2 premierships by using a 2nd ruckman as a marking loose man in the general area of centre half forward . The modern game is over coached ( mostly by amateurs ) and played by athletic robots....... Mitchel has let the young Hawkes off the leash, and is allowing them the freedom to play football. What a difference that makes to a short team lacking in Superstars.
@@imalwaysright Every coach copying the mainstream is an amateur. Sam is mostly letting the players free to play their own game, but that either failed against Port and the Giants, or Sam instructed them to go defensive. The last previous coach to let the players play their own game was Malcolm Blight. An overated player, but a grest coach. How many champion players make great coaches......very rare. Who have been the best coaches in the last 50 years.........back pocket scrubbers like Kevin Sheedy, David Parkin etc, and other scrubbers like John Kennedy, Alan Jeans etc
Next year onwards champ! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆 coming next 10 years! The trades they will get next 5 years will be insane! All the top talent free agents will want to come for another dynasty! Most likely no cup this year but its not impossible anything can happen come september! 😊
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 In court, hahaha, he will be a disruptive force for some time to come. Fagan is off again with Cyril's mention about court again this week. hehehe
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Nick Daicos is Harry Sheezel from Temu
No bro. I go for port Daicos is superb
Harley Reid is the Alibaba version of Harry Sheezel.
Hawks may have to play at an interstate home ground in the finals, maybe even twice, but their record shows it doesn't matter where they play the consistency is still there and if they can weather that storm they end up at home at the MCG likely against an interstate team so that challenge flips, if they don't have to play GWS who are very similar to them or Geelong with their long history of close finishes usually in front (except for important finals) then all bodes well, they may finish as high as 6th yet.
J. McGovern is the best defender in the comp. If you don't believe that, you haven't watched him play live
I'd agree, but for context they are talking purely this year.
@@garethfraser7748 yeah, this year as well. Clearly don’t watch the eagles play, he’s been at AA level all year
Carlton no longer the midfield of last year. As Kingy and others called it, they were "violent" in there. What happened to the brutal blues mids
McGovern should be locked and take your pick for the second or third key back.
Giants supporter here.
Looking fwd to this week's episode of "the stats don't lie". Seems they do if you just decide to look at the stats that back up your one eyed viewpoint.
Why are we surprised Jeremy McGovern has been the best defender for 10 years. But West Coast produces the best, Guy McKenna, Glen Jackovich. Darren Glass, Tom Barrass and Jeremy McGovern etc.
There's no possible way you're putting Barrass in that company?!
Get's a lot of opportunity and practice defending, compared to other teams.
@@rumplefish63 your so funny 😄
I want someone to look at me the way Hoyney looks at Corn
similarities between Hawks and Tigers 2017 is recruiting Nankervis Houli and Caddy V Meek Ginivan and Masimo
🤣
@@coreytrevorlahey3058whats funny???
Richmond recruited Nank, Caddy, and Prestia for 2017. Houli was recruited in 2011 to Richmond
settle down mate, hawks arent quite there yet
@@njokic2176 2 of the best key backs in comp barrass and battle end of year releases cissily forward and weddle to mid thats a cup team and just the beggining! Next 4 years we will get all the best free agents and another 3 cups! Second youngest team in comp 13 of best 22 under 23 years of age! 18 19 20 21 year olds how good will they be in there PRIME?? Its hawks again! Cups in 60s 70s 80s 90s 2000s 2010s with 2 dynasty best teams ever! Was that a fluke?? Lost buddy the best half forward maybe ever then went on to SMASH SWANS SMASH EAGLES! Fluke! 80s team played in 8 cups won 5 fluke?? They no what there doing and i aint going to share that information but trust me that information works history dont lie budd!!! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆
Brisbane are the team who tick almost every box. If make top 4 they are clear favourites.
Not favourites at the g!!
will win home finals.
I began to think that goal-kicking practice was banned at WB training, but then I heard that Brad Johnson was "helping" the forwards. Is Brad a poor teacher, or are the players there poor students? I would instruct the WB forwards to close their eyes when they kick. At least then they might accidentally kick straight.
Anyone can be the best defender when your team is on the front foot wait until port are under pressure and going backwards then let’s see him perform
He's literally saved some games from his intercept marks even when ports midfield is getting destroyed
Bit confused. Xerri is second for hit outs and 7th for clearances (only ruckman in top 10), 2nd for tackles. What exactly is this guy on about.
How many of those hit outs and clearances were to advantage?
@@stevelozevski8151 Well LDU IS 6th for clearances. That’s something. And Xerri is 2nd for clearances himself. I think that North is up there for stoppages in general. Stats don’t lie.
@@effkay3691 that's not what I asked
Geezus Steve you are exhausting. Make your own conclusions. What I do know is that Gawn is not in the top 10 of any of these categories though he is up there for marks behind the ball. Hit outs to advantage I’ve no idea.
@@effkay3691 that's not what I asked you either
HANG ON! Is Kane pumping up a Port player here??!
Clearly you didn’t listen Hoyne backed him up and on Friday Kane was saying other people were also talking allir up which have no affiliation with port
@@samuelbartel3104 I didn’t say he was that far off. Andrews and Gov have had far better season. They also both mentioned 6-8 week period, so him being in AA discussion is silly
That's funny, I love it.
@@samuelbartel3104Allir only been good over past month maybe. Should be hyping up someone like McG or others
McGovern > daylight > anyone else
You're drunk, Tom Stewart.
@@LaVieDeReine86McGovern would be an 6 times AA if he was fit 2020-2023. No contest.
@89Djm I'm talking about reality not your imagination
@@89Djm AA defender 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023.... mic drop
@@LaVieDeReine86 that doesn't buy him a 2024 AA spot. pick mic back up 😀
McGovern >
Wilkie flying under the radar again
Great player
Very under rated
You'd think with how much these blokes get paid they'd be able to be a lot more than 50% accurate.
I’m a Carlton supporter and 110% certain lions 🏆 this year ,
It’s there’s to lose
This the same guy who was still talking up Carlton for the flag last week? 🤭
Which guy?
one mistake here boys
Did he? He’s always pointing out their defensive problems
All of us would look pretty sh-tful if we had to provide opinions and predictions on the footy, especially in a season like this.
Who expected the Pies to be rolled out with a squad like theirs? Who expected Hawks to be in the eight at this end of the season?
Giants can win it. I don't think they will.
Close recently. Its not always just bad luck that teams seem to miss in front of goal. Pressure perhaps? Runout of energy, but it keeps happening. I have seen a few teams kick 50 points early and run out of steam only to lose by games end. Good teams. Hard to work it out.
Hang on golf coast kick straight and they are 6 goals up in the last quarter against bombers??? But if bombers kick straight in the last quarter and they kick 10 goals??
That discussion is only correct in a universe where Tom Stewart doesn't exist. I.e. that conversation and nowhere else.
Hoyney= "Ironically"
If Port doesn't win a want GWS or Hawks to come from the sky to win it.
Sam Taylor is the best key defender and Tom Stewart best over all defender
nah
Taylor is a gun but too much injury time this year.
Tom Stewart? What?
Have to be a Cats fan
@@Josh82420don't think that's relevant. Tom has been one of, if not the best key defender in comp for at least 5 years. No other key defenders are tagged the way he is.
could kane have made it anymore obvious that he knew champion data’s stupid stats had backed up his opinion on his own player…?
Geelong might just Bradbury another premiership.
Disagree about GWS they can absolutely win it all imo
Anyone but GWS. If they win the premiership, God help us all.
@@thequartersfooty why, be good for a new club to win it, rather than Geelong, Hawthorn, Sydney again.
Agree
Geelong are loitering ready to launch
Scott is the best game strategy & tactical coach in the comp
With great
List management & recruiting
I am a Hawk supporter
@@cweatherfella547sam is the best coach! Cats got us at home with no calsher ginni or ciss and lewis did his knee so we had 1 key forward chol no ginni and no ciss! Lets play them this week at the g with ciss 1 arm ginni and calsher see who wins! See who best coach is with second youngest list to the old slow cats! Our speed and elite ball users would do the same as blues! A smashing! Cats 7 best players are over 32! They get a clear home ground advantage! The only vic team to have that! Put them at g for home ground or under the roof see were they finish end of year! Would not make the 8! No chance! Cats are still hanging on to dear life those champions and in 2 years time its all over unless they can trade 7 stars next few years to replace them! They wont be winning any cup this year or for at least another 7 years depending on if they go down the trade route or rebuild! With 7 of there best so old and they are going to give up a first rnd pick for solid b grade player in baily smith! Who is that replacing dangerfield the irishman come on he is no were near as good as them! They are going to get another hawkins and cameron😂 please they are so arrogant it will bite them HARD! Name me a club that has stayed up in say top 8 forever? NONE NOT 1! Look at dees look at tigers look at eagles cats day is coming real soon! I hope they keep giving up high draft picks coz it will destroy them dead LAST! See how my comment goes in a few years time!! In last 10 years cats 1 flag hawks 3! And there is another 3 to 4 coming next 10 years for hawks! The amount of star free agents that will want to come to hawks next 5 years will be MASSIVE! See if cats win ONE flag next 10 years! So in 10 years time since 10 years ago hawks 6 to 7 flags cats 1! Maybe 2 if they rebuild! Sam best coach in league! Easily! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆coming!
Geelong have no chance. So many better teams than them in the 8.
Talking about over analysing the game
Top4 not going good but can't win it from 5th-8th 🤣
brent and sinclair did not come from nowhere. it was clear to see that sinclair was a great player in 2021 too. and with brent daniels it was clear to see he was fuckin elite when i first saw him play lmao.
No respect for Wilke again, not even mentioned.
Settle down, Saints aren’t Hawthorn. And Wilkie ain’t shit
Battle did more and he’s coming over to us at the Hawks 💀
who?
@@sanchezgaming2146 Wilkie ain't shit? AA fullback last year and been one of the best defenders in the league over the past few years. Just say you don't watch footy. As for Battle, I'm happy with the compensation pick we're gonna get for him and turn it into a gun midfielder which we desperately need. He's been sick for us this season, but is replaceable. I hope he kills it at the Hawks and achieves the success he's after
@@TNT_12 Wilkie doesn’t catch the eye. Nobody watching the saints currently. Saints are and have always been the most mid club of the comp. Keep crying
Lions choking top 4 😂
They are flat out wrong. I'll bet anyone on here that that victory against collingwood last friday will be the catalyst for getting their premiership quest back on track. Yes, they played like crap, but they found a win and grinded out a win and will now finish 1st = 2 home games, build some form and they will b getting all their injured players back. They'll win it and ill bet anyone on here. That fri night victory will end up being the most significant win of the year of any team
But Kane was defending Carlton on Monday night Footy Class 😂😂
Cats score from turnover avg is 49.5pts per game, ranked 6th. AFL avg 47.1pts. They ground out 3 wins in a different way recently. To say the aren't threatening offensively is a brain dead take. They have the 5th highest scoring offence.
Kane is one of the people picking the aa selection but doesn’t watch all the games ?
Accuracy is so important it is a disgrace that COACHES and team selectors have NEVER paid any attention to it.
Ditto now for ruckmen and the big fullforward standing in the goal square.
Hawthorn won 2 premierships by using a 2nd ruckman as a marking loose man in the general area of centre half forward .
The modern game is over coached ( mostly by amateurs ) and played by athletic robots.......
Mitchel has let the young Hawkes off the leash, and is allowing them the freedom to play football.
What a difference that makes to a short team lacking in Superstars.
Who are the amateurs overcoaching?
@@imalwaysright
Every coach copying the mainstream is an amateur.
Sam is mostly letting the players free to play their own game, but that either failed against Port and the Giants, or Sam instructed them to go defensive.
The last previous coach to let the players play their own game was Malcolm Blight.
An overated player, but a grest coach.
How many champion players make great coaches......very rare.
Who have been the best coaches in the last 50 years.........back pocket scrubbers like Kevin Sheedy, David Parkin etc, and other scrubbers like John Kennedy, Alan Jeans etc
?
Red flags? How about brown & gold flags 🟤 🟡🏆
Na just red flags 🦢🚨
@@hamishmckenzie5659nah it’s actually brown and gold
Next year onwards champ! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆 coming next 10 years! The trades they will get next 5 years will be insane! All the top talent free agents will want to come for another dynasty! Most likely no cup this year but its not impossible anything can happen come september! 😊
@@glennwalker2996and Cyril will MAKE a comeback lololololol
@@paulkyriakopoulos3444 In court, hahaha, he will be a disruptive force for some time to come. Fagan is off again with Cyril's mention about court again this week. hehehe