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General bullying is common in the healthcare industry. I myself work for a union and the amount of bullying cases from the healthcare sector stand out. It is really incomprehensible that you choose a career in which you want to help people, but participate in making your colleagues feel bad.
@@hana.s.ali93 I also suspect that on the one hand, part of the problem lies in not wanting to believe that this happens in this sector. After all, doctors and nurses, are always seen as people who want to help others. On the other hand, pretending it is not present can be an excuse for some to avoid becoming victims themselves. But that doesn't justify it. But it is present, and unfortunately, partly because of that, many people quit their jobs in healthcare. While it is effectively a bottleneck profession, at least here in Belgium. But I can certainly imagine that this is also the case in other countries. It is definitely an issue and there should actually be more attention to it. Then perhaps more people would also dare to stand up when someone is being bullied.
I can somewhat relate to this. When I was a medical student at Cambridge, I suffered a series of personal family crises in my second year that led me to being formally diagnosed with depression in that same year. My GP recommended that I intermit from my studies (and postpone exam sittings) to prioritise my mental health. However, the senior tutor at my college, who is a professor of ancient history and lacks any medical qualifications, completely ignored my GP's advice. Instead, he said, "you don't look depressed to me-you'll have to just go ahead and sit the upcoming exams." Yes, that's a professor of ancient history making an on-the-spot diagnosis contrary to that of my GP (you honestly couldn't make it up). This shocking behaviour not only disregarded the professional opinion of my GP but also trivialised struggles of mental health. The medical faculty also attempted to bully me throughout my time at the university and it was generally a very toxic culture there. It's liberating to have left but I did not leave on my own terms.
Gosh...that's absolutely horrific. How callous of that professor. I'm really sorry that you had to go through that, although I am glad to hear you feel liberated now. Do you mind me asking what you're doing now?
Its not just colleagues, its literally everyone, nurses, relatives , seniors , classmates during mbbs - everyone, it is so bad you end up becoming a bully yourself just to cope in the toxic environments you find yourself in
I've met 3 50+ yr old male doctors in the last 15 yrs and by some measure they are the most uncivilised people i've met. Rude, dismissive, dishonest, malicious, uncaring, narcissistic in varying degrees. I raised an issue with one of them about the inappropriate pushing of antidepressants by junior colleagues, i was completely ignored in person and when i put my concerns in writing. He eventually expressed considerable anger that i had raised concerns about the doctors in question. What one sees is that the doctors come first, medicine for them is primarily about them and the practice of their profession, the patient as a person is generally ignored. There are surely a few good ones, but so many rude unempathetic individuals too.
You’re bringing up a very important topic that many people don’t want to talk about. We need more people like you Hana in this world. Smart, intelligent, eloquent, bold woman!
Wow what an amazing compliment to receive!! Thank you so much for taking the time to write this comment. It means the world to me to know that these videos are useful! 💙
The problem is they discuss how nurses are constantly bullied by doctors and other patients but no one discusses how much doctors are bullied by nurses and nothing is ever done about it when they are the ones who went to school the longest and are the ones who make the most money and to be honest are usually the kindest and easiest to deal with in hospital settings I feel it stems back the mean girls from high school bullying the smart loner kid except the mean girls are now the nurses and the smart loner kid is now a successful doctor it’s all about jealously and narcissism
I left 7 years ago… I don’t need excuses, I have a completely different life now that I love. I am 100% never going back. No one can convince me to go back. 🙂
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General bullying is common in the healthcare industry. I myself work for a union and the amount of bullying cases from the healthcare sector stand out. It is really incomprehensible that you choose a career in which you want to help people, but participate in making your colleagues feel bad.
Wow interesting that the healthcare sector stands out, it’s super validating to hear that since some people proclaim it’s not an issue in this sector.
@@hana.s.ali93 I also suspect that on the one hand, part of the problem lies in not wanting to believe that this happens in this sector. After all, doctors and nurses, are always seen as people who want to help others. On the other hand, pretending it is not present can be an excuse for some to avoid becoming victims themselves. But that doesn't justify it. But it is present, and unfortunately, partly because of that, many people quit their jobs in healthcare. While it is effectively a bottleneck profession, at least here in Belgium. But I can certainly imagine that this is also the case in other countries. It is definitely an issue and there should actually be more attention to it. Then perhaps more people would also dare to stand up when someone is being bullied.
I can somewhat relate to this. When I was a medical student at Cambridge, I suffered a series of personal family crises in my second year that led me to being formally diagnosed with depression in that same year. My GP recommended that I intermit from my studies (and postpone exam sittings) to prioritise my mental health. However, the senior tutor at my college, who is a professor of ancient history and lacks any medical qualifications, completely ignored my GP's advice. Instead, he said, "you don't look depressed to me-you'll have to just go ahead and sit the upcoming exams." Yes, that's a professor of ancient history making an on-the-spot diagnosis contrary to that of my GP (you honestly couldn't make it up). This shocking behaviour not only disregarded the professional opinion of my GP but also trivialised struggles of mental health. The medical faculty also attempted to bully me throughout my time at the university and it was generally a very toxic culture there. It's liberating to have left but I did not leave on my own terms.
Gosh...that's absolutely horrific. How callous of that professor. I'm really sorry that you had to go through that, although I am glad to hear you feel liberated now. Do you mind me asking what you're doing now?
Its not just colleagues, its literally everyone, nurses, relatives , seniors , classmates during mbbs - everyone, it is so bad you end up becoming a bully yourself just to cope in the toxic environments you find yourself in
“You end up becoming a bully yourself just to cope…” makes a lot of sense!
I've met 3 50+ yr old male doctors in the last 15 yrs and by some measure they are the most uncivilised people i've met. Rude, dismissive, dishonest, malicious, uncaring, narcissistic in varying degrees. I raised an issue with one of them about the inappropriate pushing of antidepressants by junior colleagues, i was completely ignored in person and when i put my concerns in writing. He eventually expressed considerable anger that i had raised concerns about the doctors in question. What one sees is that the doctors come first, medicine for them is primarily about them and the practice of their profession, the patient as a person is generally ignored. There are surely a few good ones, but so many rude unempathetic individuals too.
You’re bringing up a very important topic that many people don’t want to talk about. We need more people like you Hana in this world. Smart, intelligent, eloquent, bold woman!
Wow what an amazing compliment to receive!! Thank you so much for taking the time to write this comment. It means the world to me to know that these videos are useful! 💙
Yes. I love your videos, Hana! I think I told you before that I trained both in the USA and UK. How are things? Are you still in Germany or UK?
@@bknimwakin Ah yes you did! Things are going well thanks, it's a really busy year and tbh I'm just trying to survive it 😅 I'm still in Germany yes :)
The problem is they discuss how nurses are constantly bullied by doctors and other patients but no one discusses how much doctors are bullied by nurses and nothing is ever done about it when they are the ones who went to school the longest and are the ones who make the most money and to be honest are usually the kindest and easiest to deal with in hospital settings I feel it stems back the mean girls from high school bullying the smart loner kid except the mean girls are now the nurses and the smart loner kid is now a successful doctor it’s all about jealously and narcissism
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I think you are trying to find excuses for not returning to a hospital as a junior doctor after your MBBS Degree. Am I right?
I left 7 years ago… I don’t need excuses, I have a completely different life now that I love. I am 100% never going back. No one can convince me to go back. 🙂
@@hana.s.ali93 Please forgive me.
You are forgiven...😅
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Fortunate you are! I can't stand any type of corporate setting. I'd prefer fast food joints if they paid half what I make now. 😳