Permanent Residence vs Naturalization, which is better?

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  • @appaluza1988
    @appaluza1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Mr Oishi, if all people in Japan get this mindset, then probably Japan has no future. But I am very confident that all people who want to live in Japan (no matter citizens or residents) wish only a bright future to this amazing country and will be willing to work hard to make it a better place and not just face the problems but actually work hard toward changing the country to better.

    • @hari-33147
      @hari-33147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@渡辺春樹-z7x foreigners in no way can replace Japanese, the culture and tradition of your country can't be continued on by foreigners even if Japanese are replaced by them, and don't be dumb by thinking all the foreigners just want to use your country and betray you, many people want to live in your country just because they really love your culture

    • @julieabot4154
      @julieabot4154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yet, not just accept but solve the problem instead.

  • @aggominimal3573
    @aggominimal3573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I agree with you on one ☝️ point.
    That is that there is no real benefit for most northern American and European citizens to become a Japanese.
    But there is a great benefit for a lot of people from economically worst off countries, also for people from countries with totalitarian regimes, weak or non existent social security, and “weak” passports.
    I personal know several Iranians that only want to become Japanese to have the ability to travel easier or even to work in western countries. A Japanese passport would make it so much easier.
    Also many want a Japanese passport to not be restricted to work in the service sector but actually lift them self’s and their families out of poverty, by going for a high level job.
    All good reasons to become Japanese.

    • @computernerd8157
      @computernerd8157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe but I disagree, Leaving the USA to get away from the culture is a good enough reason. If I was in Canada Ibwoupd of been gone because in Japan people tend to repect difference opinions as for Usa its not tge Goverment thats bad but the People that want to oppress you. I guess no place is perfect and maybe some Japanese feel the same way I do about Japan that I do about the USA.

  • @GeekedOutGaijin
    @GeekedOutGaijin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Japan is just like any other country in the sense that it has both good and bad
    I can see why his opinion is very “negative”, Japan is a great country but in order to naturalise then you must get rid of your old nationality, meaning that if something bad happens then you can’t return to your original country
    If you came from a country that Is worse than Japan, then you need not worry about that, but if you come from another advanced country, then you have no way of going back without applying for a VISA, not being able to see family and friends
    But if you really love and are dedicated to Japan, then do what you wish ! ❤️🇯🇵

    • @damolabolaji3061
      @damolabolaji3061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said! I come from Nigeria, it's a third world country that is imploding on itself because of the corrupt govt. I'm better off with not just leaving but exchanging my citizenship for a better one. #knownfacts

    • @damolabolaji3061
      @damolabolaji3061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@渡辺春樹-z7x 🤣 talk to your government if you're unhappy. Either way, I'm coming AND STAYING... FOREVER. Thinking of even buying a house. As a web developer working remotely for a US company paying me a lot, I can afford it in about three years. And yeah after I get naturalization, I will vote because I believe in having a say in who governs MY country.

    • @hari-33147
      @hari-33147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's nothing wrong in attaining a citizenship in any country (unless they want to do something bad to the country), coz the foreigners that want to reside and get naturalised in your country means they are so proud to become a citizen of your country and respect its culture (like me) and YOU should be proud of it instead of getting annoyed.
      Japan has never stopped me from getting amazed by the technological development (like the bullet trains) and the vast culture that's been carried along for ages, that no other country in the world has.
      I'm Indian but wanted to become a Japanese for its culture. I just love your culture from my heart.
      (your language is difficult to learn tho)
      The main reason why I want to become a Japanese national is mainly bcos of the animes and the culture that is depicted in them, like "kimi no nawa", which definitely do still exist in reality in most villages in your country (I think) and I want to experience it. And also I want to become an anime animator.

    • @GeekedOutGaijin
      @GeekedOutGaijin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@渡辺春樹-z7x I’ll make sure to stay tuned for next weeks episode of non Japanese people pretending to be Japanese online to discourage foreigners from coming to Japan so they feel like they’ll have Japan to themselves and not have to worry about other foreigners stealing their glory of living in Japan, seems like you have what I like to call Last Samurai Syndrome, a special condition that affects non Japanese who feel like Japan is their country and they have to save Japan from the influence of foreigners despite being foreign themselves and feel like they own Japan and can tell the Japanese population how to feel, act and think
      You’re pathetic
      Sincerely, a half Japanese person :))

    • @GeekedOutGaijin
      @GeekedOutGaijin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@damolabolaji3061 wouldn’t worry about him, I doubt he’s even Japanese
      If living in Japan is what you want then girl go for it and don’t let anyone stop you
      As a human you have the right to live wherever you feel safe and happy (provided you work for it which I’m 100% positive you will❤️)
      Good luck out there

  • @naksabroad6310
    @naksabroad6310 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this video mr oishi,
    i got pr and i have a japanese wife and a child
    I’m leaving here in japan for 11 years and still thinking for naturalization

  • @WesternPunjabii
    @WesternPunjabii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for such information. On another hand , there is great opportunity for care takers and food industries.

  • @YouNeverKnowWhoIsWatching
    @YouNeverKnowWhoIsWatching 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow! What an honest opinion of naturalization vs. Permanent residence. Perhaps this is a silly notion, but what about the person who may feel "Japanese in their heart" and therefore wants to naturalize to become a "real Japanese ".
    I am one of those people that feels like Japan is where I truly belong. As for me,the idea of living in Japan long term and fully assimilating into Japanese society would mean accepting the burdens and losses associated with the island, not just enjoying the benefits and leaving when things get tough.
    But I am probably in the minority of this mindset.

    • @sumiben5211
      @sumiben5211 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly , I know many people are applying for naturalization to get the passport and then they leave immediately. Maybe Japan should make it harder for such mentalities.

  • @anouksurmenian4257
    @anouksurmenian4257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was very interesting and for sure a point of view I didn’t hear much before. I would be interested to hear your take on why Japan doesn’t accept its citizens to have a dual citizenship. 👍

  • @luketulavu-mont9079
    @luketulavu-mont9079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very senseful and well argumented. it is a personal opinion, however very well explained. thank you.

  • @crimsoncage4050
    @crimsoncage4050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    As a person who already naturalized, I would like to respond to Hitoshi san's opinion.
    1. Japan has no bright future.
    Me = At least Japan has a much brighter future than my rotten home country. My country system is already dead but it's a matter when people will realize it.
    2. Natural Disaster and radioactive.
    Me = After you live in Japan for five years, these things will become normal to you. In addition, I rather deal with natural disaster and radioactive than political turmoil and communist dictatorship.
    3. No big merit.
    Me = Hitoshi san only state his opinions on what he believes to be the "merit" but the truth is each person has their own merit. In my case, I can get away with communist dictatorship and filthy people. My Japanese friends respect me as a person while my home country never respect me as a person. Being with people who respect me and discard the culture and country of people who don't respect me is the merit of naturalization.

    • @oishisolicitorimmigrationl4431
      @oishisolicitorimmigrationl4431  4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thank you for your opinion.

    • @whoisthiswho4070
      @whoisthiswho4070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Crimson Cage I would like to discuss about naturalization with you, I have the same issue right now as we speak, I do not want to stay in a country of a communist dictatorship. Is there any way that I can contact you with? I would like to know more about the process and the things you've gone through to achieve naturalization. I've researched quite a bit what the process is but I kinda wanna know more about your personal opinion. Right now, I'm an international student in Japan, planning to do naturalization process after my studies and additional several years of work. Thank you if you may contact me!

    • @crimsoncage4050
      @crimsoncage4050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@whoisthiswho4070 My personal experience would be the documents are the biggest nightmare. Turning-Japanese.info website by Inoue Endo is a great help. One thing that is not true is if you are single and you need three years of work visa. That is not true. It's the final tax that counts not how long your work visa.
      Sorry but I can only kill off some myth. Giving people a direct advice would be impossible for me.

    • @whoisthiswho4070
      @whoisthiswho4070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@crimsoncage4050 Thank you for your response, as I've also imagined that documents are probably the biggest nightmare. I will look into that website!

    • @nimaqu1649
      @nimaqu1649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am pretty curious about which country you originally came from...Let me guess...China? Russia? North Korea? Vietnam? These are likely the only few remaining communist regime on the planet.

  • @BEM_01
    @BEM_01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Japan should relaxed it's policy for foreigners who want to migrate. A lot of people want to live in Japan permanently unfortunately the government policies makes it really hard compared to other 1st world countries. Working population is ageing already, let other people who are willing to help the economy to come Japanese or not.

  • @sarahito418
    @sarahito418 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the honest explanations,it makes sense to me
    Living here for almost 20 years,I love japan because my families here,but I cannot trash my own country..

  • @mshimada3823
    @mshimada3823 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am half Japanese without Japanese passport, and this is my opinion. Since Japan has an aging population, I think Japan government should make it easier for hafus (half Japanese-half any nationality) to get Japanese passports regardless if they are in kosekitohon or not. I know that the Japanese society is a homogenous society, but at least they are still Japanese by blood. Is there any development about this from the government, Mr. Oishi? I think they should give more rights to those with Japanese blood at least.

  • @noinoisarno
    @noinoisarno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for your honest and brief explanation

  • @arvindthangavel9437
    @arvindthangavel9437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Hitoshi san.
    Really informative and helpful video!
    I love japanese culture, history and media. I currently work as a story writer for videogames and am a Japanese language student (JLPT N4 level). Someday I hope to work in Nihon ! :)

    • @hari-33147
      @hari-33147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      are you an indian by birth, by anymeans

    • @arvindthangavel9437
      @arvindthangavel9437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hari-33147 yep

    • @hari-33147
      @hari-33147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By your name, I think your from Tamilnadu. So are you trying to get PR or naturalization in Japan? And also is it hard to learn their language

    • @arvindthangavel9437
      @arvindthangavel9437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hari-33147 Hi, yes I'm from Tamil Nadu. I wish to apply for Naturalization. Currently, I'm doing my JLPT N4 level. Luckily, the sounds and grammar patterns are very close to Tamil and Hindi so it's not that difficult to grasp. But yes at times the particles and conjugations confuse me XD

  • @evian6673
    @evian6673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you. It's not really worth it. It's the reason I won't go for citizenship.

  • @ninamurata1056
    @ninamurata1056 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I understand his opinion but his opinion is so strong. Because he was stating all the negativity. Well, it depends still on how an individual accept this country’s flaws.
    Good point though.

  • @kimpatrickshanelee6055
    @kimpatrickshanelee6055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Also no bright future in my country also 😔

  • @jamesgreat8582
    @jamesgreat8582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "As you know, Japan is a society of aging population with low birth rate. A society with low birth rate has no bright future" *Laughs nervously in Korean(where the birth rate is even lower than japan)*

    • @hari-33147
      @hari-33147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@渡辺春樹-z7x why are you so annoyed by foreigners residing in your country, you should be proud instead 🤦🤷

  • @BeesBugsJapan
    @BeesBugsJapan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well I have grandchildren here now, I don't see any point in naturalising as a Japanese national, i’d rather keep my New Zealand passport... but if the shit hits the fan, I can’t see myself packing up and leaving either.

  • @ChuoLinguistics
    @ChuoLinguistics ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a basic fundamental flaw in this argument. Japan is an active, vibrant democracy. To participate as a responsible citizen of the democracy, we must vote, or even run for public office. Both Permanent Residents and Naturalized Citizens pay taxes. Taxpayers deserve representation in the government they fund, yet the only way to exercise that representation is through voting, and there is no principled reason whatsoever why that participation should be limited to citizens with Japanese heritage. In addition, just as the audience of this video might consider permanent residency or naturalization in Japan, Mr. Oishi is free to pursue permanent residency or naturalized citizenship in another country if he were to choose. He is not "left to his fate" as suggested in the video. Indeed, the very first argument about the low birth rate would be addressed directly by increasing the number of naturalized citizens, particularly those who are early in their careers or younger. They will contribute to and sustain the economy, making up for the "missing" citizens of Japanese descent that results from the present low birth rate.

  • @RoxanneOIKAWAtv
    @RoxanneOIKAWAtv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for making this video i agree with your opinion
    So true i hope many foreigners can watch this to that they can decide good decision

  • @AriksCamilo
    @AriksCamilo ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Oishi, I hope you notice my comment, I'm a half japanese, year 2016 I found my japanese father and he acknowledge me in his family resigter (Koseki). My question is, can I apply for a PR or naturalization even though I am now 31 years old? My father is elderly and not familiar with the process. By the way I leave here in the Phillipines. I visit japan last 2016 as touris

    • @oishisolicitorimmigrationl4431
      @oishisolicitorimmigrationl4431  ปีที่แล้ว

      In your case, you can't apply for PR or naturalization directly from overseas.
      First, you need to get a certificate of eligibiity for a "child of Japanese" status through your father.
      He needs to apply for it on behalf of you in Japan.
      And, if you get it, you can come to Japan with the said status.

  • @lenlenlopez323
    @lenlenlopez323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much Sir for this information! This is very helpful.

  • @nikkinakamura7510
    @nikkinakamura7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Konbanwa Mr. Oishi! I would like to ask if there's any chance that i could still have a japanese citizenship? My father is Japanese but he is deceased already.. His name is written in my birth certificate though he is in Japan at the time i was born.. We are able to put his name on my birth certificate because we tried to contact him through phone call that's why my surname is Nakamura.. I am his only child from my mother.. I was born in April 7, 1988, and i'm still single and i am 32 years old right now.. So i was wondering if there's still any chance for me to be able to have a visa or citizenship in Japan? I really want to live in Japan.. i hope you could help me.. 🥺

  • @aiewaibha3291
    @aiewaibha3291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your vedios are really so use full 👍

  • @andysea5012
    @andysea5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr ひとし Thank you for your video

  • @geronimo4621
    @geronimo4621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sensei is right
    1- you can be aJapanese citizen but you cant be a Japanese and that is not because of your physical appearance but the state of mind and character. how could a gaijin become a Japanese ? just speaking some Japanese , kika koseki tohon and passport ?
    hahahaha... ukeru .......

    • @stevenwinsir6229
      @stevenwinsir6229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Japan is a nation-state country, not like U.S, Canada or some other countries that are more
      suitable for immigration. I believe the physical appearance is the biggest anxiety most naturalized people concern about, even if you had already got Japanese passport, and lived in Japan more than 2decades, but you are still
      regarded as foreigner because of the appearance, which is sucks, besides that, Japan is really a beautiful country.

  • @emekabertrand852
    @emekabertrand852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sir your opinion is too negative about 🇯🇵.every country as it own problems not only japan.please think positive about yuh country .how will you expect investors to come and invest here with this type of negativity

    • @oishisolicitorimmigrationl4431
      @oishisolicitorimmigrationl4431  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Emeka Bertrand Thank you for your comment, but I can’t tell a lie.

    • @geronimo4621
      @geronimo4621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you are gaijin and he is a Japanese so who could be wrong ?

    • @geronimo4621
      @geronimo4621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @ja ka its because as a PR you worry about being deported and also wishing visa free travel but that is not true, you can never live like a Japanese even if you are a Japanese citizen.. you will always be a foreigner and its not because you your physical appearances but the mind and accustoms.

  • @rtulyaganov
    @rtulyaganov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hitoshi san, thank you for sharing your opinion. It is very helpful. I have one question. In case we can get PR, is there any cancellation of PR if you leave Japan for long term? If yes, what is the maximum length of time you can leave Japan?

  • @andysea5012
    @andysea5012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Mr Hitoshi ..Thank you for your video .. i want to ask a question about losing japanese nationality maybe you can help us. My wife,Son and i moved from japan 10 years ago to united kingdom due to the my business. i m turkish national My wife japanese and after 6 years living in uk , i and my son became british citizen and my wife had uk permanent resident...2 months ago we went to japan embassy to renew my son's japanese passport because it had less then 6 months to travel to japan to visit grand parents. When we got there after filling forms ,Person Who works japan embassy told us My son had lost his japanese nationality Because he was naturalized as a uk citizen ..We were in shock We did not know what to say and they were not very helpful. We did not know anything about this law. Do you know What can be done about it and How can my son acquire japanese citizenship back?? Maybe you can help us please

    • @yo2trader539
      @yo2trader539 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to hire an experienced Immigration Lawyer in Tokyo, because our Embassies (under the Foreign Ministry) have little or no authority on this matter. The only institution that has the authority on citizenship issues would be the Ministry of Justice in Tokyo.
      Following is from the website of the Japanese Embassy in Bolivia...basically the same warning. Acquiring a foreign citizenship is interpreted as forfeiting Japanese citizenship under Article 11 of KOKUSEKI-HO (国籍法) or "Citizenship Law." I don't know what the chances are for your son to recover his Japanese citizenship, but if he's fluent in Japanese language and culture, and truly wishes to be a Japanese national, you need to work on this ASAP, as this process may take years to resolve. Once he turns legal age, he would be treated as an adult foreign national and will have to meet naturalization requirements to become a Japanese citizen.
      外国籍の取得による日本国籍の喪失に御注意ください。
       海外で生活していると、滞在国の国籍を取得した方が都合が良いと思われる場合があるかもしれません。しかし、日本国籍を有する方が外国籍の取得を希望し、帰化(例:日本国民がボリビア人と結婚し、ボリビア人の配偶者として自らの意思でボリビア国籍を取得した場合(Naturalización por matrimonio con boliviana o boliviano)等)、国籍取得申請・届出、一度喪失した外国籍の回復など、御自分の意思で外国籍を取得した場合は、その時点で日本国籍は喪失します(国籍法11条)。また、子が未成年の時に、親権者(親権に関する準拠法により定められる者、通常は父母双方)が未成年の子に代わって外国籍取得の手続をとった場合も、自己の志望による外国籍の取得に当たるとみなされています。

       一度、自らの意思で外国籍を取得し、日本国籍を喪失してしまうと、日本に生活の本拠である住所をおいた上で、帰化の申請をしなければ、再び日本国籍を取得することはできません。

       そして、日本国籍を喪失した場合には、本人、配偶者又は四親等内の親族が、国籍喪失の事実を知った日から1か月以内(届出をすべき者がその事実を知った日に国外にあるときは、その日から3か月以内)に国籍喪失届を本籍地役場又は最寄りの日本大使館、領事事務所に届け出る義務があります。

    • @goldengilmaky6788
      @goldengilmaky6788 ปีที่แล้ว

      No dual citizenship in Japan. It goes for kids too. They put pressure on Naomi Osaka to decide whether she would choose Japan or the US.

  • @julieabot4154
    @julieabot4154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to stay in Japan and bear dozens of children to help with the future of japan.

  • @musadiqjaved8277
    @musadiqjaved8277 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I love his accent.

  • @msp0711
    @msp0711 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool bro

  • @bakhtmunir5878
    @bakhtmunir5878 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good information

  • @vv9047
    @vv9047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!!

  • @TokyoTransit
    @TokyoTransit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2025 is 4 years away from now

  • @Danishkhan-xk4to
    @Danishkhan-xk4to 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to go to Japan

  • @more2much696
    @more2much696 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for honesty

  • @kimmiyazaki7055
    @kimmiyazaki7055 ปีที่แล้ว

    if japan has no bright future 他の国ももっと“no bright future “だよ?

  • @kalanawijenayaka7037
    @kalanawijenayaka7037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can PR holder get japan passport

  • @msszone8287
    @msszone8287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arigato Gozaimas

  • @Lara-pu7qu
    @Lara-pu7qu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    連絡先下さい🙋‍♂️
    Naturalizations で申請したいので助けてください🙋‍♂️
    よろしくお願い致します

  • @michaellaw.5049
    @michaellaw.5049 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    JUST TOTAL B/S

  • @CR7-v2o7g
    @CR7-v2o7g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s good

  • @alextorres1038
    @alextorres1038 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the country dont have a bright future, because everyone is trying to be youtuber and not making babies xD

    • @jago127
      @jago127 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Japanese are smart people, that is why not making babies. This world is not a bed of roses to bring our children into this painful world.

  • @Canada3637
    @Canada3637 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mr. Oishi, if all people in Japan get this mindset, then probably Japan has no future. But I am very confident that all people who want to live in Japan (no matter citizens or residents) wish only a bright future in this amazing country and will be willing to work hard to make it a better place and not just face the problems but actually work hard toward changing the country to better.❤🇯🇵❤️🤴🫡