What do you think FNAF 4 actually is now, especially after Dittophobia? Timestamps: 00:00 Preheating 00:25 Is FNAF 4 just a bunch of Nightmares? 01:47 Is FNAF 4 real experiments done by William Afton? 03:19 What is the summary of Dittophobia? 09:06 What do the books tell us about FNAF 4? 11:56 What don't the books tell us about FNAF 4? 14:47 What do the books tell us about Ghosts in FNAF? 15:17 What exactly IS FNAF 4 and Midnight Motorist? (I WAS RIGHT!!) 18:05 What will be the plot of Help Wanted 2? 19:16 Letting it cool
Hey you know that quote from never alone or whatever abt the grandma talking about a person being getting haunted by something? Well what if that’s what’s happening to Micheal. Where the midnight moderist minigame shows CC running away to Fredbear’s the same night William murders Charlie. CC goes outside and sees Charlie dead with the puppet on top of her. He would believe that the puppet killed her, explained the horrible thing he saw that caused him to fear animatronics. William finds out about CC’s disobedience and puts him in the fnaf 4 bedrooms to torture him with the nightmare animatronics. Then bite of ‘83 happens and Micheal is affected by CC’s agony. He becomes haunted and starts to see memories of CC in the bunker being hunted by the animatronics. This, whenever Micheal sleeps, he sees CC memories. Explaining how Micheal saw nightmare Fredbear. And the secret phone guy call in the nights. He would still be having these nightmares during fnaf 1, like the logbook suggests. That way CC is in golden Freddy and his agony is in Micheal. That way fnaf 4 is both real and a dream. That way we play as both Micheal and CC in fnaf 4.
So we've got Ghosts, Remnant, Agony, Sound Illusionary Discs, A Scooped Out Bloke, Mimic AIs and now Hallucinatory Gas. Geez, these are a LOT of gimmicks to remember!
tbf Illusion disk were never a thing, is just matpat's narrative to keep pushing them Ghosts are basically the same as Nightmares, products of weird gases The scooper and the remnant are part of the same
Ending your theory off with the Help Wanted 2 “hissing” sound effect was absolutely mind blowing to me! Didn’t even realize the hissing noise to be honest. Especially with the context of the last book coming out! Great video as always!
People may have thought it was from sound illusion disks when that was the popular theory for fnaf 4 at the time(popularized by matpat). The new explanation is basically the same thing, the only difference being what causes the illusion.
@@RyeToast POV: Fazbear Entertainment tried to rip off Spongebob in an episode of Freddy & Friends. They were gonna lose the $500M lawsuit, until Helpy single-handedly went all Saul Goodman on Nickelodeon.
I just wanna imagine scott was just chilling one day then all the sudden out of the blue He just had a complete light bulb moment to make fnaf 4 make sense and even fit with a lot of random details put in following games after 4
I’m sure this plot line was established for a while, the fan base is so big he probably thought someone would piece it together. He finally realized we needed help lol
I think it can be both, it can be the nightmare of Michael Afton and also the punishment his father William gave to him through some animatronic during night ( cause the bite of '83 ).
Nightmare Shadow Freddy is a nightmare!? Chances are, he is. But he is actually also an eldritch agony creature made of literal bad vibes. And I'll give you the scoop- remnant contains memories.
I always thought FNAF 4 happened no less than 3 times: at least once the Crying Child actually had the nightmares, at one point Michael was experimented on, AND Michael had the nightmares after FNAF 1. Hence, three times!
@@Hex.A.Decimal Shadow Freddy or Golden Freddy Probably Caused Michael Afton's Nightmares, The reason Mike has nightmares has nothing to do with the scooper
I got to say, I like hearing your theories. I feel like you take a more logical approach than a lot do. You don't stretch to insane lengths like some of the theorists do. You take the pieces you know and make them fit quite well. I could see William using this chamber to torture his own son as a type of punishment. Maybe also testing it on him to see how well it works? And taking notes to improve it. And if these are early tests, I could see him still having nightmares, when he's older. Though I did forget some think crying child is also in Golden Freddy(this series is still so confusing). But is interesting that Michael might be getting memories from his brother's spirit and that's part of what he is experiencing. But dear lord I hope some day Scott puts out a book that fully explains the entire lore. We deserve it! Also, I kinda like the idea of HW2 happening to someone that is under the effect of the gas as they look for something. Perhaps it's Gregory or Vanessa looking for something to stop the mimic and help Cassie and Roxy? (A man can hope damnit! Roxy and Cassie deserve more.) Who ever it ends up being, I'm still thinking it has to do with finding something to stop the mimic.
Do you think everything you disagree with is insane? Or anything that makes your head hurt and you have to think about? Oh no, not thinking! Also, Roxy?
@@Anti-HyperLink I never said that I think everything I disagree with is insane. I just said I think some theorists stretch to insane lengths. And yes Roxy. Her and Cassie's story I don't think is said and done. They have the start of a fun dynamic and would like to see them build up on it. I could say the same thing for Gregory and Freddy. Both interesting and both might have more to do in this story.
15:55 have you ever considered that the crying child could be inside the box, then buried there? its like his coffin. perfectly matches the idea of "some things are best forgotten", the way they buried him away in some random field with no gravestone.
This is so crazy because this can still be explained as “a lucid nightmare” but this also has so many implications of it being real. FNAF 4 has to be the most obscure story in the games AND books.
Alone Together helps with GoldenDuo quite a lot, IMO. The big point brought up against GoldenDuo has always been 'but BV died at the hospital'. This story gives not just one, but a couple reasons BV could posses Fredbear still. We are told that 'most' ghosts linger where they died, 'most' meaning not all. And we are told that this mainly happens when the body's remains are undiscovered. With BV his remains never went missing. So there is less of a chance of him being tied to the place he died. However there is another important detail. Ghosts go to the place they are familiar with. BV was not familiar with the hospital, he was in a coma and his head was smashed, presumably meaning he was blind. So the last place BV would have actually been familiar with he was at, was Fredbear's. Meaning if his soul would end up in a place, it would be there.
This theory could actually explain why fredbear’s text at the end of FNAF 4 is a different shade of yellow. It could be indicating that what’s being said isn’t a prerecorded message, but William talking in real time.
11:25 If William can invent such complex suits and a.i., it isn't out of the realm of possibility for him to make a Fredbear plush with a simple algorithm of responces for the child. It's probably something similar to what Bonbon was for Funtime Freddy saying we were just a mouse when we had to sneak past Ballora into the breaker room. It could be some kind of passive observe and analyze and formulate a response that William can turn on for when he's at work or whatever andturn off again at night when he wants to be the guiding voice for something specific in the experiments beyond the realm of a simple algorithm.
If those are Michael's memories of being experimented on, rather than the Crying Child's, and the experiments were happening even before the Bite, then i still wonder if thst is why the Bite even happened in the first place. Like--if Michael's brain chemistry was constantly being messed with, i could see him having extremely lowered inhibitions and/or literally not being able to recognize how dangerous it really was to put his brother close to the animatronic like he did. But that is probably just some major speculation on my part. On the other hand, if Michael is experiencing the Crying Child's memories of being experimented on, i cpuld see that, as well as his general grief for his part on his brother's death, being a major motivation to kickstart his redemption arc and start wanting to directly oppose his father's schemes.
It's been a personal theory of mine that William uses the sound illusion disks or whatever else on Michael while he sleeps to create the nightmares, maybe that wasn't too far off? Great video btw!
dreams are in the air? WRONG. Gas leak. (I know which story this is and honestly considering I saw Tumblr go absolutely insane over it [and not in a good way] Im excited to hear an actual fnaf/general mascot horror guy's opinion on the subject)
@@PelinalDidNothingWrongSo will I, but in a good way and you'll probably get something tasty out of it. Tumblr was and always will be the turd in the punch bowl.
@@angrytheclown801tbh tumblr is way more chill nowadays. Users are too busy complaining about the new site updates to be toxic :P now Twitter on the other hand
My guess: Rory was a SECOND kid. The crying child was a failed experiment (the bite of 83 causing it to fail). But the test seemed like it was working, so they tested it a second time (Rory) but never got to finish the abandoned project.
I finally understand why Tiktoks have constant moving subtitles, family guy clips or subway surfers gameplay alongside whatever content. The cat draws and keeps your attention.
Always liked your theories rye, and i Just want to highlight here how much i appreciate you acknowledging Jr's in midnight motorist is a bar. That always really frustrated me to hear people saying it was anything else, when, to me, it seemed pretty obviously coded as a bar. Props to you for holding to that.
No worries! It's not confirmed to be a bar or anything, but I think that's most likely. I definitely don't think it's FNAF 2, though, I've never like that theory
Personally, based on another theory I've heard, I think CC + possibly other kids that William has taken were the ones actually experimented on. They were the ones that actually went through the hallucinations, and when they died, their remnant was then put into the scooper, which is how it injects remnant, and how it did it to Michael. Then, when Michael got scooped, he was injected by the kids' and possibly CC's remnant, which holds memories, he started having nightmares based on what his little brother and what the other kids saw. That's how we see/hear the hospital equipment+ other easter eggs, because it's Michael's own memories mixing with CC's/other kids'. I also personally believe that only the nights that we see the hospital equipment + other unique easter eggs, are the nights that we play as Michael in his nightmares. All the other nights we play as CC and the other kids in the real, physical world, hallucinating. I also think CC going through the experiments would be a good reason why he was so afraid of and had a phobia of animatronics, and was especially scared when Michael and his friends jump scared him with their masks based off the animatronics; because it reminded him of the hallucinations he went through. Besides, CC would be an easy candidate for William to test on instead of his older brother who's around like 13 years old (based on Young Mike's actor's age in the FNAF movie). Rory was 7 when he started getting tested on, and I honestly believe that CC died on his seventh birthday because of some implications and all, and its likelihood. A 6-7 year old would be a pretty easy target to make a fear and hallucinogenic experiment on. Disregarding that, I never really thought of the Fredbear plush being a cassette; I actually really like it and it could explain a lot
This theory, I think encourages the 'Into Madness' title of the current era of fnaf where everyone is struggling to differentiate between reality and illusion.
I think that this story really is a wake up call for comunity. Its like Scott teling us that we should catch up with this conclusion sooner. I dont think we had any story in books that told our surroundings that close to what we see in games
SO....... I looked up what Ditto phobia means, and it LITERALLY TRANSLATES to "Fear of REPETITION."😨 so If Rory from this story, has been repeating this cycle for 10 YEARS!!! then that brings a WHOLE new meaning to the title 😰😰😰
Not sure why I've had this thought, but I wonder if the Tales books are meant to be made by Fazbear Entertainment to tell their own variation of things that have happened in-universe. Fazbear loves their propaganda and cover-ups (see: VR) so telling Goosebumps-type stories about their past and Pizzaplex is right up their alley.
One thing I always feel is necessary to mention with FNAF 1-4 (and possibly up to 6 now): they’re games. Anything we learn from future sources may not be accurate to what’s in the games, which is due to the creator’s lack of involvement to the actual events. For instance, we play as Evan in FNAF 4, but it was Michael who lived it. I think Dittophobia mimics the gameplay because it’s easier to parallel than if it started with a 17 year old, since that gets rid of one parallel. Also, the part of Golden Freddy haunting Michael and appearing as Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare helps with my headcanon/theory that Shadow Freddy is an incarnation of Cassidy’s spirit, and Nightmare is basically Nightmare Shadow Freddy.
this is wrong. The whole point of Help Wanted was that the company hired someone to make games about REAL events only for the company to disprove them so everyone will believe those events didn't happen. Also Steelwool confirmed multiple times in interviews that Scott makes the story. so yeah the games we played are the real events and not the ones the company made
The games 1-7 are canon, simply some in-universe versions of them exist due to fazbear entertainment. The books aren't parallels, rory's story is canon, and scott is still heavily involved with the games, he himself said it regarding ruin
@@LukiKruki it's not that confusing. The Company wants people to think everything that happened in the past didn't happen. They're costantly lying to clear their reputation. They even covered up Bonnie's death with a whole ride that shows Bonnie gave his place to Monty lol
At this point, I'll take it. I usually don't like plot twists like this but I'll take this over Faz-Goo and Super Cancer. The events of FNAF 4 have reminded me of a bad trip on drugs ever since I realized what drugs can do. If William's twisted enough to murder children, he's twisted enough to steal Batman's Scarecrow's whole flow and use nightmare gas on them. Also, I really like the Midnight Motorist and Sister Location interpretations you put in along the way. Why is always FNAF 4 that pokes the hornet's nest? I know that the LOOORRREEE being changed more than some people change their underwear is a core part of the fandom but boy, does it get old! At least we get more theories and awesome theorists like you out of all of the constant confusion. Even though the new story says that the Crying Child's name could possibly be Rory, I'm still gonna call him Evan. I adore that name. I wasn't on board with the theory that Michael was being tortured during FNAF 4 until now. You laid it out in a way that makes sense. The cops didn't punish Michael (or anyone else because they're either stupid or paid off) so William decided to do it himself while gathering data for his twisted quest. You gave us some delicious FNAF theory bread to eat with this video and I'm devouring it. Well done!
I'm so happy someone touched up on the Nightmare Fredbear, Nightmare situation. Like how Crying child reaches out to micheal with Golden Freddy, and that affects what we see in Mike's Nightmare's Crying Child trying to communicate with Micheal. But the result of the experiments and possibly Cassidy's specific power we see in UCN, and Man In Room 1280. Cassidy attacks via Memories Nightmare's sleep. Its just Afton is in a forever sleep as a corpse never able to wake up. I really like to think of FNAF 4 as a earlier Ultimate Custom Night. And I'm so glad you pointed out the 2 Fredbear variants, and the tendency of Golden Freddy comunicating to Michael. Its also seen Via log book, the 2 spirits comunicating with Michael. Cassidy and Crying Child.
I think the most ominous discovery from this is that Micheal effectively got trapped in FNAF 4 for ten years, then immediately went into Sister Location. THAT is just awful imagine your dad torturing you for a decade and the moment you get out, your sister kills you and hides in your corpse.
I don’t usually comment on TH-cam videos (I’m a bit of a lurker) but I had to throw my hat in the ring for this one. During Midnight Motorist, you can see animatronic footprints outside the window of the Runaway’s room. This theory also accounts for that, because it can be explained as William’s rudimentary scare tactics that he uses to torture Mike after the bite of ‘83. He doesn’t have the gas or anything like that yet, so instead, he tries to use real suits to scare/torture Mike as a punishment for what he did to his brother, and of course, the suit isn’t present outside his room because he pulled it in to not damage it in the rain. Idk, I feel like that really fits with this theory!
I just realized the map of sister location is very similar to FNAF 4. The FNAF 4 kids bedroom is the main control room, either Funtime gallery is the halls, circus gallery is the closet. I know it's not the same area but it's fun to think about.
A point against Rye here: In Midnight Motorist/ *"...later that night"* it's called "LATER THAT NIGHT." As well. 🤦♂️ Rory didn't run away, he was kidnapped. We see this in Dittophobia-Rory is getting ready for school, and then he blacks out. If this was William, why wouldn't he just stab the kid? Hell, we've NEVER heard of William breaking into houses--his MO has ALWAYS been to lure kids to a dark, back room and kill them quickly; Glitchtrap/"Mimic_1" recreates this in VR, and he does a little dance after we die. This story DOES, however, match fairly close to another story earlier in the series-Toy Chica's High School years cutscenes. I think it's after Susie ("I'll tell him somebody ran over his dog."), but before Charlie. A story where Chica is thinking: If he doesn't come over tonight, then I'll go over and break into his house--He'll be mine tonight for sure. But besides these 2 stories, there's actually ANOTHER, seemingly unrelated story from Candy Cadet-about the Old Man who adopted the 5 orphans. This story is the ONLY story that ends abruptly, as though unfinished, and hasn't EVER had a conclusion since it's introduction into the franchise... *"He left one day to buy food, his heart being filled with gladness, but returned to find that the burglar had chosen his home, and killed all five of the children..."* The Old Man stitches the bodies together because he can only afford one coffin, then: *"...The man could only afford one coffin, so he stitched the five bodies together to make one, and buried the child. That night, there was a knock at the door."* So not only did someone break into a house, and kill children, we have NEVER gotten a conclusion to this story...
this is basically how ive interpreted this part of the timeline and the games, and that clip from the timeline really solidified it for me. ive always thought the experiments were done to michael afton as a teen after the crying childs death but the game play is his nightmares now, maybe he imagines the room like that because of working at the Freddie's' locations. its all an amalgamation of the torment he's suffered over the years, there are aspects of all the games up to fnaf 4 and hes suffered through it all and it haunts him. this is such a wonderful theory, there will always be things that seem to never make sense because thats just Scott but despite it you make amazing videos! i always seem to agree with you, im very excited to see if you're right about help wanted 2
One thing that bothered me about the Fnaf 4 dream theory is how does the ending relate to it? If it was just a dream what does the “I will put you back together” speech tie into it
What if we play as Cassie in Help Wanted 2, and, like Rory, she has been wearing the mask for so long that she is unable te see the Sister Location's ruined state, and thinks that she is doing something good. Instead, the Mimic is manipulating her into helping him. That would mean that everything we see in Help Wanted 2 is actually an hallucination, and Cassie would literally be in VR because of the mask's influence.
I feel so dumb. I've been watching your videos for months if not a year or so, subscribed and everything, and every time I hear you say "Slices, put on your apron" my brain goes to pizza slices. For the first time, I happened to be looking at the channel icon and name, and put together what you actually have been intending all this time.... One braincell go brrrr.
I love this! I never really 'got' FNAF4 even with dream theory - it just seemed like something was missing. But yeah Dittophobia basically explaining about the hallucinogenic gas and cassette makes more sense to me
I wanna know why everyone still thinks Orange Guy is William Afton. Why in earth would Scott change the color of Afton’s character? To throw us off that it’s not William Afton? Well he didn’t do a very good job throwing us off then. No. I don’t think Orange Guy is William Afton. If he wanted to be William Afton, he would’ve just made him Purple Guy.
Yeah so I feel like it's Henry but he gray but in the FNAF book encyclopedia henry wearing Orange or Michael idk? This is just what I think also in the other games William has been purple so ?also Michael has orange tan skin.
YES! i like this theory a LOT more than people just saying that the entirety of the fnaf 4 gameplay is now supposed to be from this random new characters POV, which just completely disregards all of the scenes inbetween the nights,, like is the crying child supposed to be rory now?? why are they there? yes, the new book does introduce some new elements and kinda changes up what we thought had happened, but we cant just COMPLETELY toss everything out
I think Fnaf 4 is a recurring dream based on real experiences of Micheal’s. This is why you can hear the fnaf 1 phone call because it’s a memory of Micheals time as the night guard blurring together with other memories of experiments from his childhood. This also explains the odd details like the flowers and IV drip Also I believe Midnight Motorist is us playing as the parent of an MCI kid the night he gets lured away by Spring Bonnie
Oh wait what if the yellow figure in Midnight Motorists is in fact William, but the reason he's yellow is because he's not "corrupt" yet. He hasn't committed a murder yet since only the crying child has died, and he kills Charlie after (in most theories). Once he turns purple, he's the man behind the slaughter we know. This is really just speculation, the only evidence I really have is baby's eye color change, blue being a child-murdering robot, and green being Elizabeth's eyes. Both represent a change in character. Also, yellow is purple's complentrary color. I don't have anything concrete yet, though.
1:20 bro, that’s just a random Easter egg. (I know that Scott didn’t put random Easter eggs but think about it, most if not all of the Easter eggs like toy chica’s beak are in the minigames, not the gameplay itself, also if Scott wanted us to think we play as mike, he would just put a phone call explaining the gameplay of something)
I love the new stuff to chew on with Dittophobia! Can go either way which is nice, gives us more answers without just answering everything for us. My interpretation of it atm is it's Mike's dreams, with the remnant we know he was injected with after Sister Location, with probably using remnant from those FNAF 4 experiments. I didn't even know about the other book story talking about this so I'm really happy! Then it can be a sort of shared trauma he experiences while still staying in line with the dream hints and Mike knowing about Nightmare Fredbear, among other things. All down to opinion of course! I feel it's a lot tidier of a conclusion to make without requiring William experimenting on his children which never quite sat right with me. Very much an occam's razor situation for me but I'm on board with multiple angles of this so I can't complain either way Love being able to sink my teeth into this stuff, it's really nice to see! Never expected this sort of clarity on something far behind us now but it's greatly appreciated I like that it's not completely solved either, I enjoy having these different views and theories on what happened and seeing people talk about all the different angles they can take is great, really missed this sort of theorising
Rye, can I call you Rye? I love your theories so much. This video especially feels like one of the most sound and actually sane sounding FNAF theories (because the stuff we talk about is normal to me). Everything just makes sense, even the explanation for Nightmare just feels like things clicking into place. Is it possibly retroactive/retcon? Possible. But does it make more sense than anything we've come up with before? Somehow yes. If Help Wanted 2 really goes in the direction you predicted it, I can't wait to see you play it and theorize it to hell and back.
Imo, Dittophobia is more or less what actually happened, maybe not to rory, but a kid before him. It's implied that there were other children down there who had died before Rory, "Apparently, the whole thing was a nasty experiment designed to study the effects of ongoing fear in children." To me it's likely William was trying to recreate the conditions of the Bite of 83', as a possible recreation of Fredbears shows up on the SL breaker room map. I believe that the victims of the experiments most likely ended up as remnant inside the scooper, which was injected into Mike. Which lines up with your point abt the Grandma's line abt the steps of a haunting, and the memories that aren't yours. Also I think your HW2 theory might be almost spot on. In a PlayStation Blog post Steel Wool's Executive Producer said, "Improving on the original title, Help Wanted 2 introduces several brand new minigames that bring you face to face with familiar characters and locations from the series’ past. But all is not as it seems in this new job… It’ll be up to you to brave through the horrors TO FIGURE OUT THE TRUTH"
a question ive had for a while is who possesses funtime freddy? I think this book gives a satisfying answer, its Rory. Or whatever his game equivalent is. One of Afton's horrific experiments, near the sister location bunker, it checks out. I dont know how that works with the timeline if this kid had spent a decade in that, but, my thought for that would simply be in the games he dies of starvation. One loose connection I could make is that perhaps fazbears in the series represent agony, where bonnies represent remnant. Idk just a vague theory, but it might make sense. The tangle being like a pure embodiment of agony, springtrap being a pure embodiment of remnant. Something like that.
I love that theories have gone from "William loved his children but lost them due to accidents" to "William loved his children except Micheal" and finally "William loved his children and also tortured them because he could" shfskj What a girlboss
This makes me think of that one fnaf book that seemed to be the only book not connected to fnaf since it was about a homemade doll in the closet of a sick kid (i forgot the name of the story). The connection must be how the dad, Evan, spoke through the doll to his son who didn't know the voice in the doll was his dad. And here, William is speaking through the golden frddy plush to guide his son (but both do it for VERY different reasons lol).
Great video. The Midnight Motorist stuff surrounding Dittophobia really annoyed me because it's SO weak as you point out in this video (and really assuming RoryMM ignores literally every other element of that minigame outside "kid ran away"). I'm still 100% on board with your original theory on that cutscene - it just makes the most sense to me. I've even said the tracks outside the broken window remind me so much of the Fazbear Frights story Coming Home in which the ghost of Susie visits her sister night after night trying to communicate with her. It feels like such a good parallel to Crying Child and Michael. BTW, thanks for the additional summary too. I've only heard the story through the leaks that were tainted with a bunch of theories mixed in the middle so it's hard to know what's actually in the story and what is just the poster making stuff up (like the Midnight Motorist stuff). Like, the details about the parents are a huge thing to disprove the Midnight Motorist connections and that's not even mentioned in what I read. The Help Wanted 2 thing is super cool too. I never noticed the hissing but yeah, I'm with you there. It's probably not an accident that they saved Dittophobia for the last book or that they included it with Tales at all. It definitely feels like we're heading towards a bunch of Sister Location related story in the near future of the games (maybe not even just Help Wanted 2)
2:37 Map looks like the Crying child. It ties in that Mike is having these "Nightmare" animatronics and the FNAF 1 phone call (backwards dream time stuff) in an exact (but bedroom) replica of the FNAF 1 office/pizzaria. Mike is also able to turn Foxy into the plush because Foxy (withered with a dead body) is what mischief Mike showed (and traumatised) the crying child with behind the "out of order" curtain, and this is why Crying Child tore the head off his Foxy plush in his room, because he couldn't bare to look at it, and the reason why Mike uses that specific mask to taunt the Crying child.
This is crazy I’m ngl, but the amount I just casually CALLED IN BETA TMOOE IS LEGIT RIDICULOUS. …Let’s just hope Scott & Steel Wool dont have Papia and Kako… (They’re duck deity brothers who control the universe, Papia being good and Kako being evil, and the idea spawned the saying I made on the fly “the good, the bad, and the duck”)
I have 2 questions Rye. Why would William test on another child and also why hasn’t that kid died for not eating a thing else than wafers for 10 years?( also I know this is a game and will be able to be debunked but just asking
For the first question, I don't know that's a story. I think in the games hes only done it on Michael personally. For the second, it's explained in the book that the fridge was stocked with freeze dried wafers of everything a body needs for nutrients, so it was barely keeping him alive
I’m glad someone else believes that “Midnight Motorist” isn’t about Rory. There are _far_ too many links between “Midnight Motorist” and the Aftons that I think it’s foolish to assume that AftonMM is debunked.
i love this theory, dont get mw wrong. i think almost everything fits, but there is one aspect you didnt cover: the animatronic footsteps outside the window. which animatronic are them from, and why are they there? and how do they connect with the theory?
There is a crucial detail you’re missing here. In the UCN, we hear from the voice lines of Fedbear and Nightmare Freddy that A. Willam Made The Nightmares (“I am remade, but not by you” implies William was the original maker) B. There is a reference to “I will put you back together” (“Let’s out you back together, and tear you part all over again”) And most damning of all; “This time, there is more than an illusion to fear.” (This shows the animatronics we’re illusions made by William, using what your theory suggests, gas or sound illusion discs (however, considering your theory is quite convincing, I would guess a gas makes a whole lot more sense, but there is still a case for sound illusion discs)) The thing is, I would recommend you go back into Ultimate Custom Night and relisten the voice lines, as I believe there is still more information we can gather. (Want a hint? Pay close attention to Nightmare Fredbears voice lines, and see if you can’t garner anything else… perhaps another voice? It also sounds familiar…)
does crying child come before elizabeth? does elizabeth come before crying child? circus world was william’s thing before combining with henry’s thing, but after fredbear’s/crying child death, he reinvents circus world? makes all the funtime animatronics? so was elizabeth a baby when crying child died? they were both around 6-7? also, what about matpats newest theory? i thought william went after all of micheal’s friends after charlie (susie, the children depicted by myself micheal while crying child in fredbear) n then cassidy was the last of that batch, not of any relation to any of them. i love your theories!
Chances are Help Wanted 2 could be a prequel. Since the last sequel (Fnaf 2) was a prequel and ppl were confused about it for some reason. Also Help Wanted 2 could be the events of one of the 2 workers that came into Sister location and they both tragically died.
I've only gotten about 2/3rds of the way through rn, but one thing I think is of note is that if the mom is a neat freak, she must be guaranteed out of the picture by 1983, since the sister's room is such a mess, including having very dangerous sharp metal and wires all over the place. Unless the mom is more of a metaphor or something, in which case I have no idea
the book is literally 1 to 1 just like the last books put people still say it's not canon lol. We need Scott at this point to come up and literally say its canon
@@RyeToast that part alone was enough for me to be fully on board with the rest of your theory i cant believe i didnt notice that noise in the trailer before
Interesting note for you: I got to play a help wanted 2 mini game early at PAX West and got to talk with the devs a bit. Something to note was that in the minigame I got to play, you are a repair man fixing a carousel outside as Moon from security breach tries to kill you. This, to me, seems to imply that either Sun & Moon escaped the Pizzaplex, or that you are a repair man going to the Pizzaplex… kind of interesting. Maybe the Pizzaplex is somehow connected to sister location?
Or it's another in-universe game, like the original fnaf VR, which makes sense, since several animatronics that shouldn't exist at the same time, exist in Fnaf VR 2..
What do you think FNAF 4 actually is now, especially after Dittophobia?
Timestamps:
00:00 Preheating
00:25 Is FNAF 4 just a bunch of Nightmares?
01:47 Is FNAF 4 real experiments done by William Afton?
03:19 What is the summary of Dittophobia?
09:06 What do the books tell us about FNAF 4?
11:56 What don't the books tell us about FNAF 4?
14:47 What do the books tell us about Ghosts in FNAF?
15:17 What exactly IS FNAF 4 and Midnight Motorist? (I WAS RIGHT!!)
18:05 What will be the plot of Help Wanted 2?
19:16 Letting it cool
so slay of ryetoast to add this
Hey you know that quote from never alone or whatever abt the grandma talking about a person being getting haunted by something? Well what if that’s what’s happening to Micheal.
Where the midnight moderist minigame shows CC running away to Fredbear’s the same night William murders Charlie. CC goes outside and sees Charlie dead with the puppet on top of her. He would believe that the puppet killed her, explained the horrible thing he saw that caused him to fear animatronics.
William finds out about CC’s disobedience and puts him in the fnaf 4 bedrooms to torture him with the nightmare animatronics. Then bite of ‘83 happens and
Micheal is affected by CC’s agony.
He becomes haunted and starts to see memories of CC in the bunker being hunted by the animatronics. This, whenever Micheal sleeps, he sees CC memories. Explaining how Micheal saw nightmare Fredbear. And the secret phone guy call in the nights. He would still be having these nightmares during fnaf 1, like the logbook suggests.
That way CC is in golden Freddy and his agony is in Micheal. That way fnaf 4 is both real and a dream. That way we play as both Micheal and CC in fnaf 4.
maybe the person we play as in help wanted 2 is wade finding the bunker and looking for rory
sooo the afton kids are experiments?
You made a mistake in the first FNAF books the ending stories had a girl that also ran away from her father, although they was reunited at the end.
Kinda weird how the cover up story for Circus Baby’s closing down due to Elizabeth’s death was “gas leaks” huh…
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Ya that is weird
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That is so darn astute
Write that down write that down!
The way he just sat there petting the cat makes him look like a super villain figuring out the protagonist's plan.
If you watch the sponsored segments you would know that they is a evil clone of the original rye toast😊
@@madam_foxWait thats what's happening??? oh no its clone vpn all over again /j
P sure ryetoast goes by they/them pronouns but ya
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@@regulargoat7259 you use Twitter, don't you?
So we've got Ghosts, Remnant, Agony, Sound Illusionary Discs, A Scooped Out Bloke, Mimic AIs and now Hallucinatory Gas. Geez, these are a LOT of gimmicks to remember!
True tho
Don’t forget about Fazgoo 💀
*Fazgoo entered the chat*
One more! Ar and Vr VANNI's. Oops , that's two.
tbf Illusion disk were never a thing, is just matpat's narrative to keep pushing them
Ghosts are basically the same as Nightmares, products of weird gases
The scooper and the remnant are part of the same
this sounds like the perfect excuse for Scott to say "Fnaf 4 was actually **not** a dream **but** it actually **WAS** a dream!"
Pretty much lol
Basically the "Were you killed?", "Yes I was, but I lived!" thing lmao
It's kinda convoluted, yeah. Like.... frustratingly so. 😔
Scott got some character development! He finally figured out what to do with FNaF 4!
Lmao true
yess
Do you actually know what character development is?
@@Anti-HyperLinkIt’s a joke…
@@Anti-HyperLink Scott himself developed, He is not saying he is good at character development.
Do you actually know what reading comprehension is?
Ending your theory off with the Help Wanted 2 “hissing” sound effect was absolutely mind blowing to me! Didn’t even realize the hissing noise to be honest. Especially with the context of the last book coming out!
Great video as always!
Totally agree
People may have thought it was from sound illusion disks when that was the popular theory for fnaf 4 at the time(popularized by matpat). The new explanation is basically the same thing, the only difference being what causes the illusion.
I think it is just the sound of the neon sign as they make those sounds
is faz-mayonnaise an instrument?
No Ben Drowned, Faz-Mayonnaise is not an instrument.
Faz-Horseradish is not an instrument either
@@RyeToast
POV: Fazbear Entertainment tried to rip off Spongebob in an episode of Freddy & Friends.
They were gonna lose the $500M lawsuit, until Helpy single-handedly went all Saul Goodman on Nickelodeon.
@@venomfan2020
No way, really?
Fazgoo is meth confirmed
And before you ask, faz-radish isn’t an instrument either
I just wanna imagine scott was just chilling one day then all the sudden out of the blue He just had a complete light bulb moment to make fnaf 4 make sense and even fit with a lot of random details put in following games after 4
I’m sure this plot line was established for a while, the fan base is so big he probably thought someone would piece it together. He finally realized we needed help lol
Nah he knew
My thought is that he checked into rehab LOL
@@cloroxartNo, it was NOT stablished before TTO at least
Love the theories but “William Afton is the gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss of our dreams” will live rent free in my head forever and you did that to me
I just imagine William with long ass eyelashes and fake nails
@@poison-LICKTHEPOISON And occasionally dresses up as a bunny... Oh no.
I finally have a new theory to make me question everything in this god forsaken series 💀
Welcome to the club
matpat is the founder.
Finally a theory that puts pieces together nicely
@@begining9807recently matpat’s theories have made me start to question HIM ngl
@@connorbruhmoment lmao
I think it can be both, it can be the nightmare of Michael Afton and also the punishment his father William gave to him through some animatronic during night ( cause the bite of '83 ).
You won't believe me, but I agree (I'll get there)
@@RyeToast wow I can't believe it a famous TH-camr agrees with me, ME!!
Nightmare Shadow Freddy is a nightmare!?
Chances are, he is. But he is actually also an eldritch agony creature made of literal bad vibes. And I'll give you the scoop- remnant contains memories.
I always thought FNAF 4 happened no less than 3 times: at least once the Crying Child actually had the nightmares, at one point Michael was experimented on, AND Michael had the nightmares after FNAF 1. Hence, three times!
@@Hex.A.Decimal Shadow Freddy or Golden Freddy Probably Caused Michael Afton's Nightmares, The reason Mike has nightmares has nothing to do with the scooper
bruh the cat was addicting to look at
Fr fr
“william afton is the gaslight gatekeep girlboss of our dreams” made me laugh so hard
I got to say, I like hearing your theories. I feel like you take a more logical approach than a lot do. You don't stretch to insane lengths like some of the theorists do. You take the pieces you know and make them fit quite well.
I could see William using this chamber to torture his own son as a type of punishment. Maybe also testing it on him to see how well it works? And taking notes to improve it. And if these are early tests, I could see him still having nightmares, when he's older. Though I did forget some think crying child is also in Golden Freddy(this series is still so confusing). But is interesting that Michael might be getting memories from his brother's spirit and that's part of what he is experiencing. But dear lord I hope some day Scott puts out a book that fully explains the entire lore. We deserve it!
Also, I kinda like the idea of HW2 happening to someone that is under the effect of the gas as they look for something. Perhaps it's Gregory or Vanessa looking for something to stop the mimic and help Cassie and Roxy? (A man can hope damnit! Roxy and Cassie deserve more.) Who ever it ends up being, I'm still thinking it has to do with finding something to stop the mimic.
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Do you think everything you disagree with is insane? Or anything that makes your head hurt and you have to think about? Oh no, not thinking!
Also, Roxy?
@@Anti-HyperLink I never said that I think everything I disagree with is insane. I just said I think some theorists stretch to insane lengths.
And yes Roxy. Her and Cassie's story I don't think is said and done. They have the start of a fun dynamic and would like to see them build up on it. I could say the same thing for Gregory and Freddy. Both interesting and both might have more to do in this story.
15:55 have you ever considered that the crying child could be inside the box, then buried there? its like his coffin. perfectly matches the idea of "some things are best forgotten", the way they buried him away in some random field with no gravestone.
That ain't it chief
This is so crazy because this can still be explained as “a lucid nightmare” but this also has so many implications of it being real. FNAF 4 has to be the most obscure story in the games AND books.
Was waiting for you to cover dittophobia! I love this story!!
This story is wiiiiild
Alone Together helps with GoldenDuo quite a lot, IMO. The big point brought up against GoldenDuo has always been 'but BV died at the hospital'. This story gives not just one, but a couple reasons BV could posses Fredbear still.
We are told that 'most' ghosts linger where they died, 'most' meaning not all. And we are told that this mainly happens when the body's remains are undiscovered. With BV his remains never went missing. So there is less of a chance of him being tied to the place he died.
However there is another important detail. Ghosts go to the place they are familiar with. BV was not familiar with the hospital, he was in a coma and his head was smashed, presumably meaning he was blind. So the last place BV would have actually been familiar with he was at, was Fredbear's. Meaning if his soul would end up in a place, it would be there.
That actually would make a lot of sense to why crying child would possess Fredbear
Wtf does BV mean
@@cesarcastillo7129 crying child
@@cesarcastillo7129BV means Bite Victim. It is another name for Crying Child who died to being bitten by Fredbear.
This theory could actually explain why fredbear’s text at the end of FNAF 4 is a different shade of yellow. It could be indicating that what’s being said isn’t a prerecorded message, but William talking in real time.
11:25 If William can invent such complex suits and a.i., it isn't out of the realm of possibility for him to make a Fredbear plush with a simple algorithm of responces for the child. It's probably something similar to what Bonbon was for Funtime Freddy saying we were just a mouse when we had to sneak past Ballora into the breaker room. It could be some kind of passive observe and analyze and formulate a response that William can turn on for when he's at work or whatever andturn off again at night when he wants to be the guiding voice for something specific in the experiments beyond the realm of a simple algorithm.
Perfect thing to listen that 12AM! Thank you RyeToast :D
Anytime!
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Can i just say, from your summary alone, this has to be one of the best and most horrifying stories these FNAF books ever told.
If those are Michael's memories of being experimented on, rather than the Crying Child's, and the experiments were happening even before the Bite, then i still wonder if thst is why the Bite even happened in the first place. Like--if Michael's brain chemistry was constantly being messed with, i could see him having extremely lowered inhibitions and/or literally not being able to recognize how dangerous it really was to put his brother close to the animatronic like he did. But that is probably just some major speculation on my part.
On the other hand, if Michael is experiencing the Crying Child's memories of being experimented on, i cpuld see that, as well as his general grief for his part on his brother's death, being a major motivation to kickstart his redemption arc and start wanting to directly oppose his father's schemes.
your channel is so comforting, whenever im in a bad mood watching ur videos actually makes me feel so much better tysm for posting
I'm glad to help in the ways I can!
It's been a personal theory of mine that William uses the sound illusion disks or whatever else on Michael while he sleeps to create the nightmares, maybe that wasn't too far off? Great video btw!
dreams are in the air? WRONG. Gas leak. (I know which story this is and honestly considering I saw Tumblr go absolutely insane over it [and not in a good way] Im excited to hear an actual fnaf/general mascot horror guy's opinion on the subject)
Well I'm glad to provide
It's fucking Tumblr. They'll freak out over BBQ sauce
@@PelinalDidNothingWrongSo will I, but in a good way and you'll probably get something tasty out of it. Tumblr was and always will be the turd in the punch bowl.
@@angrytheclown801tbh tumblr is way more chill nowadays. Users are too busy complaining about the new site updates to be toxic :P now Twitter on the other hand
My guess: Rory was a SECOND kid. The crying child was a failed experiment (the bite of 83 causing it to fail). But the test seemed like it was working, so they tested it a second time (Rory) but never got to finish the abandoned project.
This!!
"Tomorrow is another day" *Tape Rewinds*
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I finally understand why Tiktoks have constant moving subtitles, family guy clips or subway surfers gameplay alongside whatever content.
The cat draws and keeps your attention.
Always liked your theories rye, and i Just want to highlight here how much i appreciate you acknowledging Jr's in midnight motorist is a bar. That always really frustrated me to hear people saying it was anything else, when, to me, it seemed pretty obviously coded as a bar. Props to you for holding to that.
No worries! It's not confirmed to be a bar or anything, but I think that's most likely. I definitely don't think it's FNAF 2, though, I've never like that theory
Finally you told the thing about Midnight motorist, many thing of the Midnight motorist dont make sense with this interpretation
Personally, based on another theory I've heard, I think CC + possibly other kids that William has taken were the ones actually experimented on. They were the ones that actually went through the hallucinations, and when they died, their remnant was then put into the scooper, which is how it injects remnant, and how it did it to Michael. Then, when Michael got scooped, he was injected by the kids' and possibly CC's remnant, which holds memories, he started having nightmares based on what his little brother and what the other kids saw.
That's how we see/hear the hospital equipment+ other easter eggs, because it's Michael's own memories mixing with CC's/other kids'.
I also personally believe that only the nights that we see the hospital equipment + other unique easter eggs, are the nights that we play as Michael in his nightmares. All the other nights we play as CC and the other kids in the real, physical world, hallucinating.
I also think CC going through the experiments would be a good reason why he was so afraid of and had a phobia of animatronics, and was especially scared when Michael and his friends jump scared him with their masks based off the animatronics; because it reminded him of the hallucinations he went through. Besides, CC would be an easy candidate for William to test on instead of his older brother who's around like 13 years old (based on Young Mike's actor's age in the FNAF movie). Rory was 7 when he started getting tested on, and I honestly believe that CC died on his seventh birthday because of some implications and all, and its likelihood. A 6-7 year old would be a pretty easy target to make a fear and hallucinogenic experiment on.
Disregarding that, I never really thought of the Fredbear plush being a cassette; I actually really like it and it could explain a lot
Finally after all these years we have found "what we missed." ;)
Lmao true
This theory, I think encourages the 'Into Madness' title of the current era of fnaf where everyone is struggling to differentiate between reality and illusion.
I think that this story really is a wake up call for comunity. Its like Scott teling us that we should catch up with this conclusion sooner. I dont think we had any story in books that told our surroundings that close to what we see in games
@@bunny-dl2fi yeah that's also true to some extend lol
SO....... I looked up what Ditto phobia means, and it LITERALLY TRANSLATES to "Fear of REPETITION."😨 so If Rory from this story, has been repeating this cycle for 10 YEARS!!! then that brings a WHOLE new meaning to the title 😰😰😰
Not sure why I've had this thought, but I wonder if the Tales books are meant to be made by Fazbear Entertainment to tell their own variation of things that have happened in-universe. Fazbear loves their propaganda and cover-ups (see: VR) so telling Goosebumps-type stories about their past and Pizzaplex is right up their alley.
The constant cat petting is an appreciated addition
Always!
One thing I always feel is necessary to mention with FNAF 1-4 (and possibly up to 6 now): they’re games. Anything we learn from future sources may not be accurate to what’s in the games, which is due to the creator’s lack of involvement to the actual events. For instance, we play as Evan in FNAF 4, but it was Michael who lived it. I think Dittophobia mimics the gameplay because it’s easier to parallel than if it started with a 17 year old, since that gets rid of one parallel.
Also, the part of Golden Freddy haunting Michael and appearing as Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare helps with my headcanon/theory that Shadow Freddy is an incarnation of Cassidy’s spirit, and Nightmare is basically Nightmare Shadow Freddy.
this is wrong. The whole point of Help Wanted was that the company hired someone to make games about REAL events only for the company to disprove them so everyone will believe those events didn't happen. Also Steelwool confirmed multiple times in interviews that Scott makes the story.
so yeah the games we played are the real events and not the ones the company made
I agree with the n. Fredbear one
The games 1-7 are canon, simply some in-universe versions of them exist due to fazbear entertainment. The books aren't parallels, rory's story is canon, and scott is still heavily involved with the games, he himself said it regarding ruin
@@Starbear_Ent Bascially "I created a game about apples to say apples aren't apples" if your comment is confusing.
@@LukiKruki it's not that confusing. The Company wants people to think everything that happened in the past didn't happen. They're costantly lying to clear their reputation.
They even covered up Bonnie's death with a whole ride that shows Bonnie gave his place to Monty lol
At this point, I'll take it. I usually don't like plot twists like this but I'll take this over Faz-Goo and Super Cancer. The events of FNAF 4 have reminded me of a bad trip on drugs ever since I realized what drugs can do. If William's twisted enough to murder children, he's twisted enough to steal Batman's Scarecrow's whole flow and use nightmare gas on them. Also, I really like the Midnight Motorist and Sister Location interpretations you put in along the way. Why is always FNAF 4 that pokes the hornet's nest? I know that the LOOORRREEE being changed more than some people change their underwear is a core part of the fandom but boy, does it get old! At least we get more theories and awesome theorists like you out of all of the constant confusion. Even though the new story says that the Crying Child's name could possibly be Rory, I'm still gonna call him Evan. I adore that name. I wasn't on board with the theory that Michael was being tortured during FNAF 4 until now. You laid it out in a way that makes sense. The cops didn't punish Michael (or anyone else because they're either stupid or paid off) so William decided to do it himself while gathering data for his twisted quest. You gave us some delicious FNAF theory bread to eat with this video and I'm devouring it. Well done!
I'm so happy I'm not the only one that immediately thought of Scarecrow.
I almost forgot Fazgoo exist
Wait huh? "Super cancer???" isn't that a Return to Freddy's thing?
@@dabearboi7599 I think there was something related to that in a “Tales of Pizzaplex” story
@@smt64productions40 Oh pfttt- that explains it
I'm so happy someone touched up on the Nightmare Fredbear, Nightmare situation. Like how Crying child reaches out to micheal with Golden Freddy, and that affects what we see in Mike's Nightmare's Crying Child trying to communicate with Micheal. But the result of the experiments and possibly Cassidy's specific power we see in UCN, and Man In Room 1280. Cassidy attacks via Memories Nightmare's sleep. Its just Afton is in a forever sleep as a corpse never able to wake up. I really like to think of FNAF 4 as a earlier Ultimate Custom Night. And I'm so glad you pointed out the 2 Fredbear variants, and the tendency of Golden Freddy comunicating to Michael. Its also seen Via log book, the 2 spirits comunicating with Michael. Cassidy and Crying Child.
It says in the encyclopedia that the crying child is the one experiencing the fnaf 4 nightmares though
Agreed!
That book also says bonbon is in fnaf 3
This is so on point, educating and entertaining at the same time - thanks! ❤
I think the most ominous discovery from this is that Micheal effectively got trapped in FNAF 4 for ten years, then immediately went into Sister Location. THAT is just awful imagine your dad torturing you for a decade and the moment you get out, your sister kills you and hides in your corpse.
I don’t usually comment on TH-cam videos (I’m a bit of a lurker) but I had to throw my hat in the ring for this one. During Midnight Motorist, you can see animatronic footprints outside the window of the Runaway’s room. This theory also accounts for that, because it can be explained as William’s rudimentary scare tactics that he uses to torture Mike after the bite of ‘83. He doesn’t have the gas or anything like that yet, so instead, he tries to use real suits to scare/torture Mike as a punishment for what he did to his brother, and of course, the suit isn’t present outside his room because he pulled it in to not damage it in the rain. Idk, I feel like that really fits with this theory!
Another amazing theory to listen to on your way home from school. Clap it up for ryetoast everyone! 📣📣📣
I LOVE THIS THEORY!! I wish the help wanted 2 part was what we got. Great video!
I just realized the map of sister location is very similar to FNAF 4. The FNAF 4 kids bedroom is the main control room, either Funtime gallery is the halls, circus gallery is the closet. I know it's not the same area but it's fun to think about.
A point against Rye here:
In Midnight Motorist/ *"...later that night"* it's called "LATER THAT NIGHT." As well. 🤦♂️
Rory didn't run away, he was kidnapped.
We see this in Dittophobia-Rory is getting ready for school, and then he blacks out.
If this was William, why wouldn't he just stab the kid?
Hell, we've NEVER heard of William breaking into houses--his MO has ALWAYS been to lure kids to a dark, back room and kill them quickly; Glitchtrap/"Mimic_1" recreates this in VR, and he does a little dance after we die.
This story DOES, however, match fairly close to another story earlier in the series-Toy Chica's High School years cutscenes.
I think it's after Susie ("I'll tell him somebody ran over his dog."), but before Charlie.
A story where Chica is thinking: If he doesn't come over tonight, then I'll go over and break into his house--He'll be mine tonight for sure.
But besides these 2 stories, there's actually ANOTHER, seemingly unrelated story from Candy Cadet-about the Old Man who adopted the 5 orphans. This story is the ONLY story that ends abruptly, as though unfinished, and hasn't EVER had a conclusion since it's introduction into the franchise...
*"He left one day to buy food, his heart being filled with gladness, but returned to find that the burglar had chosen his home, and killed all five of the children..."*
The Old Man stitches the bodies together because he can only afford one coffin, then:
*"...The man could only afford one coffin, so he stitched the five bodies together to make one, and buried the child. That night, there was a knock at the door."*
So not only did someone break into a house, and kill children, we have NEVER gotten a conclusion to this story...
Yall remember the teaser where Sister Location was "closed due to gas leaks"?
this is basically how ive interpreted this part of the timeline and the games, and that clip from the timeline really solidified it for me. ive always thought the experiments were done to michael afton as a teen after the crying childs death but the game play is his nightmares now, maybe he imagines the room like that because of working at the Freddie's' locations. its all an amalgamation of the torment he's suffered over the years, there are aspects of all the games up to fnaf 4 and hes suffered through it all and it haunts him. this is such a wonderful theory, there will always be things that seem to never make sense because thats just Scott but despite it you make amazing videos! i always seem to agree with you, im very excited to see if you're right about help wanted 2
Crazy? I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A office room. A office room with animatronics. And animatronics make me crazy.
Crazy? I was crazy once
They locked me in a room. A bedroom. With gaslighting Wade. Gaslighting Wade made me crazy.
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One thing that bothered me about the Fnaf 4 dream theory is how does the ending relate to it?
If it was just a dream what does the “I will put you back together” speech tie into it
What if we play as Cassie in Help Wanted 2, and, like Rory, she has been wearing the mask for so long that she is unable te see the Sister Location's ruined state, and thinks that she is doing something good. Instead, the Mimic is manipulating her into helping him. That would mean that everything we see in Help Wanted 2 is actually an hallucination, and Cassie would literally be in VR because of the mask's influence.
Rewatching this, and holy crap, an Into The Pit style Dittophobia game would be INSANE
I feel so dumb. I've been watching your videos for months if not a year or so, subscribed and everything, and every time I hear you say "Slices, put on your apron" my brain goes to pizza slices. For the first time, I happened to be looking at the channel icon and name, and put together what you actually have been intending all this time.... One braincell go brrrr.
That's a big mood tho
I love this! I never really 'got' FNAF4 even with dream theory - it just seemed like something was missing. But yeah Dittophobia basically explaining about the hallucinogenic gas and cassette makes more sense to me
I wanna know why everyone still thinks Orange Guy is William Afton. Why in earth would Scott change the color of Afton’s character? To throw us off that it’s not William Afton? Well he didn’t do a very good job throwing us off then. No. I don’t think Orange Guy is William Afton. If he wanted to be William Afton, he would’ve just made him Purple Guy.
Yeah so I feel like it's Henry but he gray but in the FNAF book encyclopedia henry wearing Orange or Michael idk? This is just what I think also in the other games William has been purple so ?also Michael has orange tan skin.
@@rad1165Agreed.
YES! i like this theory a LOT more than people just saying that the entirety of the fnaf 4 gameplay is now supposed to be from this random new characters POV, which just completely disregards all of the scenes inbetween the nights,, like is the crying child supposed to be rory now?? why are they there? yes, the new book does introduce some new elements and kinda changes up what we thought had happened, but we cant just COMPLETELY toss everything out
"Henry, would you say that I am a 'Girlboss'?"
"What the hell, William."
"You see I literally and figuratively gas my children..."
Before I even started the video, I had to subscribe. You call your subscribers “Slices”
Wait, so is that why Scott teased sister location with, "canceled" because of "gas leak"?!??!!??!!
EXACTLY
I think Fnaf 4 is a recurring dream based on real experiences of Micheal’s. This is why you can hear the fnaf 1 phone call because it’s a memory of Micheals time as the night guard blurring together with other memories of experiments from his childhood. This also explains the odd details like the flowers and IV drip
Also I believe Midnight Motorist is us playing as the parent of an MCI kid the night he gets lured away by Spring Bonnie
William gaslit his son, gatekeept him from the oustide world, girlbossed him to sleep and slayed.... on children.
and he served (hallucinogenic gas)
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“He would never be alone again.” That might be a reference to a somewhat popular FNAF song called ‘Never be alone’
Theories are a huge W, amazing job picking all little details
Thank you!!
Oh wait what if the yellow figure in Midnight Motorists is in fact William, but the reason he's yellow is because he's not "corrupt" yet. He hasn't committed a murder yet since only the crying child has died, and he kills Charlie after (in most theories). Once he turns purple, he's the man behind the slaughter we know.
This is really just speculation, the only evidence I really have is baby's eye color change, blue being a child-murdering robot, and green being Elizabeth's eyes. Both represent a change in character. Also, yellow is purple's complentrary color. I don't have anything concrete yet, though.
Personally, I think FNAF 4 is a nightmare caused by Michael's guilt from killing his brother
I get that
Thats because it is.
Well this book disprove this
@@SubZero-hs9xc In Fnaf 4 there is the phone guy easter egg from Fnaf 1. So who else could hear it except Mike?
@@W.Afton_1983 this book disprove that is ONLY a dream, the events happened
1:20 bro, that’s just a random Easter egg.
(I know that Scott didn’t put random Easter eggs but think about it, most if not all of the Easter eggs like toy chica’s beak are in the minigames, not the gameplay itself, also if Scott wanted us to think we play as mike, he would just put a phone call explaining the gameplay of something)
I love the new stuff to chew on with Dittophobia!
Can go either way which is nice, gives us more answers without just answering everything for us. My interpretation of it atm is it's Mike's dreams, with the remnant we know he was injected with after Sister Location, with probably using remnant from those FNAF 4 experiments. I didn't even know about the other book story talking about this so I'm really happy! Then it can be a sort of shared trauma he experiences while still staying in line with the dream hints and Mike knowing about Nightmare Fredbear, among other things.
All down to opinion of course! I feel it's a lot tidier of a conclusion to make without requiring William experimenting on his children which never quite sat right with me. Very much an occam's razor situation for me but I'm on board with multiple angles of this so I can't complain either way
Love being able to sink my teeth into this stuff, it's really nice to see! Never expected this sort of clarity on something far behind us now but it's greatly appreciated
I like that it's not completely solved either, I enjoy having these different views and theories on what happened and seeing people talk about all the different angles they can take is great, really missed this sort of theorising
Rye, can I call you Rye? I love your theories so much. This video especially feels like one of the most sound and actually sane sounding FNAF theories (because the stuff we talk about is normal to me). Everything just makes sense, even the explanation for Nightmare just feels like things clicking into place. Is it possibly retroactive/retcon? Possible. But does it make more sense than anything we've come up with before? Somehow yes.
If Help Wanted 2 really goes in the direction you predicted it, I can't wait to see you play it and theorize it to hell and back.
I'm glad! Thank you so much (and Rye is fine)
Imo, Dittophobia is more or less what actually happened, maybe not to rory, but a kid before him. It's implied that there were other children down there who had died before Rory, "Apparently, the whole thing was a nasty experiment designed to study the effects of ongoing fear in children." To me it's likely William was trying to recreate the conditions of the Bite of 83', as a possible recreation of Fredbears shows up on the SL breaker room map. I believe that the victims of the experiments most likely ended up as remnant inside the scooper, which was injected into Mike. Which lines up with your point abt the Grandma's line abt the steps of a haunting, and the memories that aren't yours.
Also I think your HW2 theory might be almost spot on.
In a PlayStation Blog post Steel Wool's Executive Producer said, "Improving on the original title, Help Wanted 2 introduces several brand new minigames that bring you face to face with familiar characters and locations from the series’ past. But all is not as it seems in this new job… It’ll be up to you to brave through the horrors TO FIGURE OUT THE TRUTH"
This guy is the true MatPat bully 🤣
He even caresses his cat like a comic villain.
And replaces it with a bear 💀
a question ive had for a while is who possesses funtime freddy? I think this book gives a satisfying answer, its Rory. Or whatever his game equivalent is. One of Afton's horrific experiments, near the sister location bunker, it checks out. I dont know how that works with the timeline if this kid had spent a decade in that, but, my thought for that would simply be in the games he dies of starvation.
One loose connection I could make is that perhaps fazbears in the series represent agony, where bonnies represent remnant. Idk just a vague theory, but it might make sense. The tangle being like a pure embodiment of agony, springtrap being a pure embodiment of remnant. Something like that.
3:58 Rory, hmm...?
Rory... *Greg*ory...
GREGBOT THEORY CONFIRMED??
*_*I KNEW IT!!!*_*
Roderick or Rodney. Usually.
I love that theories have gone from "William loved his children but lost them due to accidents" to "William loved his children except Micheal" and finally "William loved his children and also tortured them because he could" shfskj What a girlboss
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This makes me think of that one fnaf book that seemed to be the only book not connected to fnaf since it was about a homemade doll in the closet of a sick kid (i forgot the name of the story). The connection must be how the dad, Evan, spoke through the doll to his son who didn't know the voice in the doll was his dad. And here, William is speaking through the golden frddy plush to guide his son (but both do it for VERY different reasons lol).
I feel even worse for Michael. He didn’t deserve any of this. But to be fair, I didn’t expect anything less from William.
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literally just got into an argument about this a few weeks ago with my little brother. thank you for proving my theory about fnaf 4 :)
Great video. The Midnight Motorist stuff surrounding Dittophobia really annoyed me because it's SO weak as you point out in this video (and really assuming RoryMM ignores literally every other element of that minigame outside "kid ran away"). I'm still 100% on board with your original theory on that cutscene - it just makes the most sense to me. I've even said the tracks outside the broken window remind me so much of the Fazbear Frights story Coming Home in which the ghost of Susie visits her sister night after night trying to communicate with her. It feels like such a good parallel to Crying Child and Michael.
BTW, thanks for the additional summary too. I've only heard the story through the leaks that were tainted with a bunch of theories mixed in the middle so it's hard to know what's actually in the story and what is just the poster making stuff up (like the Midnight Motorist stuff). Like, the details about the parents are a huge thing to disprove the Midnight Motorist connections and that's not even mentioned in what I read.
The Help Wanted 2 thing is super cool too. I never noticed the hissing but yeah, I'm with you there. It's probably not an accident that they saved Dittophobia for the last book or that they included it with Tales at all. It definitely feels like we're heading towards a bunch of Sister Location related story in the near future of the games (maybe not even just Help Wanted 2)
Rory was abducted in midnigth motorist let's goooo
2:37 Map looks like the Crying child.
It ties in that Mike is having these "Nightmare" animatronics and the FNAF 1 phone call (backwards dream time stuff) in an exact (but bedroom) replica of the FNAF 1 office/pizzaria.
Mike is also able to turn Foxy into the plush because Foxy (withered with a dead body) is what mischief Mike showed (and traumatised) the crying child with behind the "out of order" curtain, and this is why Crying Child tore the head off his Foxy plush in his room, because he couldn't bare to look at it, and the reason why Mike uses that specific mask to taunt the Crying child.
*Me after reloading my for you page non stop to see if Rye Toast posted and now he finally has*
This is crazy I’m ngl, but the amount I just casually CALLED IN BETA TMOOE IS LEGIT RIDICULOUS.
…Let’s just hope Scott & Steel Wool dont have Papia and Kako…
(They’re duck deity brothers who control the universe, Papia being good and Kako being evil, and the idea spawned the saying I made on the fly “the good, the bad, and the duck”)
I have 2 questions Rye. Why would William test on another child and also why hasn’t that kid died for not eating a thing else than wafers for 10 years?( also I know this is a game and will be able to be debunked but just asking
For the first question, I don't know that's a story. I think in the games hes only done it on Michael personally. For the second, it's explained in the book that the fridge was stocked with freeze dried wafers of everything a body needs for nutrients, so it was barely keeping him alive
@@RyeToastokay thank you
I’m glad someone else believes that “Midnight Motorist” isn’t about Rory. There are _far_ too many links between “Midnight Motorist” and the Aftons that I think it’s foolish to assume that AftonMM is debunked.
i love this theory, dont get mw wrong. i think almost everything fits, but there is one aspect you didnt cover: the animatronic footsteps outside the window. which animatronic are them from, and why are they there? and how do they connect with the theory?
There is a crucial detail you’re missing here.
In the UCN, we hear from the voice lines of Fedbear and Nightmare Freddy that
A. Willam Made The Nightmares (“I am remade, but not by you” implies William was the original maker)
B. There is a reference to “I will put you back together” (“Let’s out you back together, and tear you part all over again”)
And most damning of all; “This time, there is more than an illusion to fear.” (This shows the animatronics we’re illusions made by William, using what your theory suggests, gas or sound illusion discs (however, considering your theory is quite convincing, I would guess a gas makes a whole lot more sense, but there is still a case for sound illusion discs))
The thing is, I would recommend you go back into Ultimate Custom Night and relisten the voice lines, as I believe there is still more information we can gather. (Want a hint? Pay close attention to Nightmare Fredbears voice lines, and see if you can’t garner anything else… perhaps another voice? It also sounds familiar…)
Bruh what is that book. Thats creepy as heck...
does crying child come before elizabeth? does elizabeth come before crying child? circus world was william’s thing before combining with henry’s thing, but after fredbear’s/crying child death, he reinvents circus world? makes all the funtime animatronics? so was elizabeth a baby when crying child died? they were both around 6-7? also, what about matpats newest theory? i thought william went after all of micheal’s friends after charlie (susie, the children depicted by myself micheal while crying child in fredbear) n then cassidy was the last of that batch, not of any relation to any of them. i love your theories!
Chances are Help Wanted 2 could be a prequel.
Since the last sequel (Fnaf 2) was a prequel and ppl were confused about it for some reason.
Also Help Wanted 2 could be the events of one of the 2 workers that came into Sister location and they both tragically died.
I've only gotten about 2/3rds of the way through rn, but one thing I think is of note is that if the mom is a neat freak, she must be guaranteed out of the picture by 1983, since the sister's room is such a mess, including having very dangerous sharp metal and wires all over the place.
Unless the mom is more of a metaphor or something, in which case I have no idea
Never call William a girl boss ever again 😭 I CAN'T BREATHE
MATPAT needs to see this, cause it’s been such a long time since we have had a gun smoking this much
Great theory and, i must say, i love your hair man👍.
Thank you! It took a while to get this long
the book is literally 1 to 1 just like the last books put people still say it's not canon lol. We need Scott at this point to come up and literally say its canon
So…..the Russian Sleep Experiment creepypasta but slightly altered?
first time viewer and i have to say i love the constant cat cam. really adds to the comfiness of this video, good stuff man 👍
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed
18:51 that is insane
RIGHT?!
@@RyeToast that part alone was enough for me to be fully on board with the rest of your theory i cant believe i didnt notice that noise in the trailer before
Interesting note for you: I got to play a help wanted 2 mini game early at PAX West and got to talk with the devs a bit.
Something to note was that in the minigame I got to play, you are a repair man fixing a carousel outside as Moon from security breach tries to kill you. This, to me, seems to imply that either Sun & Moon escaped the Pizzaplex, or that you are a repair man going to the Pizzaplex… kind of interesting. Maybe the Pizzaplex is somehow connected to sister location?
Or it's another in-universe game, like the original fnaf VR, which makes sense, since several animatronics that shouldn't exist at the same time, exist in Fnaf VR 2..