Am I the only one who is kind of likes being sick and having a really deep voice? I have a fairly deep voice without T, but when I'm sick it goes REALLY deep and it makes me irrationally happy.
I have deliberately thrown out my voice a couple of times. I don't do that often because it physically hurts, but it feels good to talk without worrying. I know what my voice sounds like outside my skull, and it makes me cringe. Ironically, that's part of why I haven't trained my voice at all, just because that would mean listening to it so much ... although I could learn a lower register that way and fix the problem. Stupid dysphoria.
Also, singing really loudly along to music makes it so you wear your vocal cords down and your voice gets raspy and deeper. I started doing it over a year ago to help me feel more comfortable with my voice, and it's fun- especially when you can't hear your singing voice cause your music is too loud.
I had my name legally changed before I started hormones, and boy oh boy was it embarrassing to get up in front of the judge and have to speak and literally not even pass at all. I was such a mess, but it was worth it to have my name changed. I used my name change as a way to come out at work as trans, which ended up working well.
I have selective mutism (i.e. I don't talk, and I do not feel compelled to speak like 90% of the time), so speaking wasn't really comfortable anyway. But after being on T for a while, I've noticed that I feel a little more comfortable in my voice when I *do* speak. So that's something.
classes that involved participation for a grade were always terrifying. have to open my mouth and speak with this voice?? in front of people??? no thanks
I wish I could donate my voice to a pre-T trans guy and switch with him. I'm non-binary and afab, but my voice is so masculine that it makes me pass as male. That plus the fact that I look like a young cis boy after only cutting my hair, and I'm a million miles away from even raising questions about my gender when I'm literally ASSIGNED FEMALE. All I want is an androgynous voice and androgynous face and the ability to act in both typically masculine and feminine ways without that immediately making people think "boy" or "girl".
I'm 14 and going into high school in August, and I'm thinking of coming out this summer and asking people to use a new name/pronouns at school. I'm really scared, but the good thing is that some of the cis guys in my school still have their pre-puberty voices, so I can sort of fit in until I get on T. My parents probably won't let me go on T until I'm at least 16 (I haven't come out yet) so I think I can do it. I don't pass well at all right now though, I have wide hips and I'm pretty chubby which doesn't help at all.
But I live literally 10 minutes away from San Francisco so it's a pretty liberal area and people will be more respectful than if I lived in Texas or something.
I'm 14 too about to start high school. I already came out at the beginning of summer and we had a meeting to change my name in the school roster, if you can that's what I would recommend
last year i came out at the start of the year because the transition for everyone seemed to be easier. because they hadn't talked to me for three months so switching wouldnt be so hard, especially when youre going to a new school and if they dont know you by your birthname they cant mess it up (pronouns idk tho it depends because people suck) but i hope all turned out well!
[as of 6-29-16] my birthname is very feminine. when I got my job at McDonald's last December I asked to be called Kirstofr despite not have yet changed it and before I was on T. On the official computer system it's my birthname but I have been only misnamed twice surprisingly! I have been on T since March and have gradually gotten deeper. Customers have been using my correct pronouns but not much my coworkers, even tho my name IS Kristofr. Coworkers just call me Kris and at this point it's to awkward to correct them lol. Maybe 3 coworkers use the right pronouns. A little funny story that happened recently. I was working front counter and I took this older gentlemen's order. When I gave him his order he said "thank you sir!" at me. My (younger hs boy) coworker was like "wtf he called u sir??? I would've smacked him if he did that with me but opposite!!" In my head I was thinking "I should smack you then" lmao. I have been feeling shy about correcting people since I don't pass so much
I am so glad you made this video. Sometimes I get called she/her pronouns used. I'm on testosterone and I have a beard and mustache and I don't understand. My voice isn't feminine but it isn't really deep either. I don't have like the junk growth either. Maybe my T doesn't work? :'(
THANK YOU SO MUCH for covering this topic. Voice dysphoria is like #2 on my list honestly. Also Saren has a great video on how to lower your voice without t. Its not as drastic of a change as with t, of course, but it made a big difference in my confidence on a day to day basis.
Thank you Chase for mentioning us transguys who still have a fairly high voice on T! I feel like we are Always forgotten. I'm 29 months on T and sometimes still don't pass because of my voice. But I've been seeing a speech therapist for 3 months now and that has really helped with my voice dysphoria. I'm sure there a different ways to go about it, but for me the speech therapy has been about Learning to speak and breath with my stomach instead of my throat, using more force and Power in my speaking and also speaking in a deeper voice in a natural way. This has boosted my confidence a lot!
Love u chase :) I'm so glad that you do make videos even when things are bad because it makes it feel like its okay to be bad sometimes. thank u for working so hard for us on youtube!!
im not on T and my voice is low because it's the voice that fits most with me, in the period I didn't know I was trans I practiced to get it lower and now its naturally low and low enough to pass, I can still get higher or lower than this if needed in the conversation, but I barely pay any attention to my voice, only when I accidentally go higher. but my tip; don't try to sound like a man, try to sound as yourself
I didn't even notice that you sounded or looked any less organized this time at all. This video made sense. I myself sometimes experience excessive focusing on details, but I filter that out. Whoever said you are too hard to follow when you're sick, may have been committing the same error but *not* stopping himself.
It's pretty amazing how important voice changes are for us compared to a lot of the other changes we hope for also. I remember tried doing the whole "deep voice" that was obviously forced and I never was brave enough to hear how I sounded so I'm sure it was ridiculous. For it to even sound a bit deeper/manlier in a natural sense it took about 6 months to a year and I started hormones a few months later.
I hate my voice but I talk a lot around people who know I'm trans because I feel safe. However when I'm laughing or trying to make others laugh and tell jokes I get high pitched and squeaky and it's the most annoying thing 😩 I've actually been in a position before where people have started out using he and him pronouns but then using she/her pronouns after hearing my voice which is crappy. It would be really great to start t but I don't even know if the gic received my papers or not yet :((
I was born a girl but since i was in elementary school i've worn male clothes for the most part, i prefer wallets and chains over purses and rings, i was never happy with long hair and quite happy when i got a more masculine short hair cut, i stopped shaving my legs a few years back and now only shave when my mother forces me to when we visit family. I don't quite like having breasts but i dont really mind them. I've been called him/he before and it makes me happy but being called she doesn't make me unhappy either. To be perfectly honest i wouldn't mind having male or female parts because in my mind gender really doesn't matter to my personality. I don't think i have dysphoria other than the fact i really want a six pack? Lol i really dont understand my gender to be perfectly honest.
Something important to know is that gender exists on a spectrum of masculine to feminine, and strength of identification with those. Everyone is a little different. If you want to hear from people with similar experiences to you I'd recommend looking into the nonbinary community to see what you think.
my voice used to be one of my top two things that made me dysphoric, so pre-t i was the same and just didn't talk. i only felt ok talking in my mom's car or in our house. anywhere else and i avoided talking at all costs. even 1+ year on t and i'm still that guy that is "always so quiet" and "doesn't talk much" 🙃 my voice doesn't make me dysphoric anymore, but my old habits continue to stick with me in some ways.
I definitely have voice dysphoria 😕 I have honestly been considering getting vocal surgery to change it because I’m still not satisfied with it and I’m not sure on what else to do
I probably would be one of those people to tell you not to make videos when you’re sick, but you’re a grown man so you can do what you want. As long as you’re still taking care of yourself and taking it easy.
I try to pass and just give nods, grunts and hand gestures unless I absolutely have to talk... I hate talking to people, especially once I (rarely) pass and my voice kills it.
If anyone is watching this now, I just want to give a helpful tip on this! Singing. It doesn't matter if you sound good or bad, it's about training your vocal chords. I'm going to use music words now so I'll clarify the meanings real quick. Soprano- high range (female) Tenor- highest range (male) Baritone- middle range (male) Bass- lowest range (male) So, when I started I was a soprano. All I did was make a playlist of songs I knew really well, ranging from soprano at the top of the list, to bass at the bottom. I sang each song all the way through the playlist until I got to a point where I couldn't go any lower, and eventually I finished the entire thing. *Do not keep singing/talking at a range that hurts your throat or feels like you're straining your voice* just give it time and I promise you'll be able to talk in a lower range naturally. I used to be a soprano. Now I can sing soprano to baritone (and a few bass notes) without starting hormones.
I think I did a video about my voice dysphoria a month ago. But I dont remember if I did or not. Dysphoria sucks badly for me and I know for others too! Love you!
I don't know that there is the word "voice dysphoria" until you said so. I have voice dysphoria too. I really not like to sing in public or with friends and my singing suck because I tried to deepen my voice and I like to sing men's voice songs. Once I heard about T for the first time it was like oh heaven door, I finally I find it. I have to just work my way there. By the way, I am pre everything.
ive been told multiple times that i 'look like a boy but sound like a girl' and it's so heartbreaking that that's apparently the only thing that stops me from passing
I have a fairly high voice (not on T) and I'm misgendered at work and by just about anyone all the time. It's really rough because all I want to do is not talk at all like ever besides with people who know and get it but my job requires so much talking and its so stressful lol
I changed my name a couple months back. I don't pass yet, due to a large chest and high voice, but I'm training myself over time. Online, people who just met me tell me I sound like a young male, which made me feel great. It's a start. However, I work in a job that requires me to talk and be friendly, which makes it very hard to speak in a low tone and train myself. I get misgendered all the time... It's very upsetting, but I hope that in time, I'll be able to start my journey!
i told people to use my name and pronouns way before i started testosterone and even got my name legally changed. i also was in speech in high school before testosterone, which was really difficult but I'm so happy I did it.
There is definitely a point at which deepening your voice sounds fake. Still, I've noticed lately that being nervous around others will make mine "jump" and so I try to imagine that the person in front of me is someone I know and like, and it will naturally go back down.
l'm six months on low dose testosterone. My voice has changed noticeably, but it still gets read as feminine 100% of the time. I have a lot less voice dysphoria hearing recordings of myself now, though.
Well.. I can go whole school days without saying more than "hi" My throat starts hurting very fast if I have to talk for longer than five minutes and my voice is pretty quiet But I can't get myself to talk more because of how much I hate how I sound..welp
I personally feel that you need to be confident. Why should I inconvenience myself by not talking by just assuming that people are gonna make fun of my voice. CONFIDENCE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOLKS!
I know a guy who is cis and not trans who has a very feminine voice. People mistake him for a woman all the time over the phone. Sometimes they even refer to him as a woman after he has corrected them which is very annoying.
I'm guilty of the angry transman eyebrows when I try to lower my voice! Also, I volunteer at the local improv theatre in my town. Each week I introduce myself to people by my chosen name, Tristan, and then people misgender me. Really? You really think that Tristan is a girl's name? No, it's not "Trista," it's "Tristan." Thanks for making me feel like shit for the rest of the night.
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Am I the only one who is kind of likes being sick and having a really deep voice? I have a fairly deep voice without T, but when I'm sick it goes REALLY deep and it makes me irrationally happy.
I have deliberately thrown out my voice a couple of times. I don't do that often because it physically hurts, but it feels good to talk without worrying. I know what my voice sounds like outside my skull, and it makes me cringe. Ironically, that's part of why I haven't trained my voice at all, just because that would mean listening to it so much ... although I could learn a lower register that way and fix the problem. Stupid dysphoria.
Lol me too. I tried screaming really loud so I'd lose my voice.
Also, singing really loudly along to music makes it so you wear your vocal cords down and your voice gets raspy and deeper. I started doing it over a year ago to help me feel more comfortable with my voice, and it's fun- especially when you can't hear your singing voice cause your music is too loud.
Even though I'm on T, I still enjoy having the deeper voice while I have a cold or after I wear my voice out.
I love being sick for this reason!
I had my name legally changed before I started hormones, and boy oh boy was it embarrassing to get up in front of the judge and have to speak and literally not even pass at all. I was such a mess, but it was worth it to have my name changed. I used my name change as a way to come out at work as trans, which ended up working well.
I have selective mutism (i.e. I don't talk, and I do not feel compelled to speak like 90% of the time), so speaking wasn't really comfortable anyway. But after being on T for a while, I've noticed that I feel a little more comfortable in my voice when I *do* speak. So that's something.
Cool:)
classes that involved participation for a grade were always terrifying. have to open my mouth and speak with this voice?? in front of people??? no thanks
I wish I could donate my voice to a pre-T trans guy and switch with him. I'm non-binary and afab, but my voice is so masculine that it makes me pass as male. That plus the fact that I look like a young cis boy after only cutting my hair, and I'm a million miles away from even raising questions about my gender when I'm literally ASSIGNED FEMALE. All I want is an androgynous voice and androgynous face and the ability to act in both typically masculine and feminine ways without that immediately making people think "boy" or "girl".
I'm 14 and going into high school in August, and I'm thinking of coming out this summer and asking people to use a new name/pronouns at school. I'm really scared, but the good thing is that some of the cis guys in my school still have their pre-puberty voices, so I can sort of fit in until I get on T. My parents probably won't let me go on T until I'm at least 16 (I haven't come out yet) so I think I can do it. I don't pass well at all right now though, I have wide hips and I'm pretty chubby which doesn't help at all.
But I live literally 10 minutes away from San Francisco so it's a pretty liberal area and people will be more respectful than if I lived in Texas or something.
I'm 14 too about to start high school. I already came out at the beginning of summer and we had a meeting to change my name in the school roster, if you can that's what I would recommend
last year i came out at the start of the year because the transition for everyone seemed to be easier. because they hadn't talked to me for three months so switching wouldnt be so hard, especially when youre going to a new school and if they dont know you by your birthname they cant mess it up (pronouns idk tho it depends because people suck) but i hope all turned out well!
[as of 6-29-16] my birthname is very feminine. when I got my job at McDonald's last December I asked to be called Kirstofr despite not have yet changed it and before I was on T. On the official computer system it's my birthname but I have been only misnamed twice surprisingly! I have been on T since March and have gradually gotten deeper. Customers have been using my correct pronouns but not much my coworkers, even tho my name IS Kristofr. Coworkers just call me Kris and at this point it's to awkward to correct them lol. Maybe 3 coworkers use the right pronouns.
A little funny story that happened recently. I was working front counter and I took this older gentlemen's order. When I gave him his order he said "thank you sir!" at me. My (younger hs boy) coworker was like "wtf he called u sir??? I would've smacked him if he did that with me but opposite!!" In my head I was thinking "I should smack you then" lmao. I have been feeling shy about correcting people since I don't pass so much
I am so glad you made this video. Sometimes I get called she/her pronouns used. I'm on testosterone and I have a beard and mustache and I don't understand. My voice isn't feminine but it isn't really deep either. I don't have like the junk growth either. Maybe my T doesn't work? :'(
THANK YOU SO MUCH for covering this topic. Voice dysphoria is like #2 on my list honestly. Also Saren has a great video on how to lower your voice without t. Its not as drastic of a change as with t, of course, but it made a big difference in my confidence on a day to day basis.
Thank you Chase for mentioning us transguys who still have a fairly high voice on T! I feel like we are Always forgotten. I'm 29 months on T and sometimes still don't pass because of my voice. But I've been seeing a speech therapist for 3 months now and that has really helped with my voice dysphoria. I'm sure there a different ways to go about it, but for me the speech therapy has been about Learning to speak and breath with my stomach instead of my throat, using more force and Power in my speaking and also speaking in a deeper voice in a natural way. This has boosted my confidence a lot!
Love u chase :) I'm so glad that you do make videos even when things are bad because it makes it feel like its okay to be bad sometimes. thank u for working so hard for us on youtube!!
I get so excited when you post videos!!
im not on T and my voice is low because it's the voice that fits most with me, in the period I didn't know I was trans I practiced to get it lower and now its naturally low and low enough to pass, I can still get higher or lower than this if needed in the conversation, but I barely pay any attention to my voice, only when I accidentally go higher. but my tip; don't try to sound like a man, try to sound as yourself
Good tip! I'm gonna used it
DemonRider but when I do that I feel like I'm dying inside since "sounding like me" to other people means sounding "like a girl" and not passing 🙃
I look like a guy, act like a guy, and have a guys name. Like, I understand that my voice is high but are the female pronouns really necessary?
exactly.
I didn't even notice that you sounded or looked any less organized this time at all. This video made sense. I myself sometimes experience excessive focusing on details, but I filter that out. Whoever said you are too hard to follow when you're sick, may have been committing the same error but *not* stopping himself.
i slightly deepen my voice, but not enough for people to tell
i just sound like a flamboyant 12 year old boy hitting puberty lmao
It's pretty amazing how important voice changes are for us compared to a lot of the other changes we hope for also.
I remember tried doing the whole "deep voice" that was obviously forced and I never was brave enough to hear how I sounded so I'm sure it was ridiculous. For it to even sound a bit deeper/manlier in a natural sense it took about 6 months to a year and I started hormones a few months later.
Hope you feel better soon Chase!
you're so handsome chase
I hate my voice but I talk a lot around people who know I'm trans because I feel safe. However when I'm laughing or trying to make others laugh and tell jokes I get high pitched and squeaky and it's the most annoying thing 😩 I've actually been in a position before where people have started out using he and him pronouns but then using she/her pronouns after hearing my voice which is crappy. It would be really great to start t but I don't even know if the gic received my papers or not yet :((
I was born a girl but since i was in elementary school i've worn male clothes for the most part, i prefer wallets and chains over purses and rings, i was never happy with long hair and quite happy when i got a more masculine short hair cut, i stopped shaving my legs a few years back and now only shave when my mother forces me to when we visit family. I don't quite like having breasts but i dont really mind them. I've been called him/he before and it makes me happy but being called she doesn't make me unhappy either. To be perfectly honest i wouldn't mind having male or female parts because in my mind gender really doesn't matter to my personality. I don't think i have dysphoria other than the fact i really want a six pack? Lol i really dont understand my gender to be perfectly honest.
Something important to know is that gender exists on a spectrum of masculine to feminine, and strength of identification with those. Everyone is a little different. If you want to hear from people with similar experiences to you I'd recommend looking into the nonbinary community to see what you think.
my voice used to be one of my top two things that made me dysphoric, so pre-t i was the same and just didn't talk. i only felt ok talking in my mom's car or in our house. anywhere else and i avoided talking at all costs. even 1+ year on t and i'm still that guy that is "always so quiet" and "doesn't talk much" 🙃
my voice doesn't make me dysphoric anymore, but my old habits continue to stick with me in some ways.
I definitely have voice dysphoria 😕 I have honestly been considering getting vocal surgery to change it because I’m still not satisfied with it and I’m not sure on what else to do
I think my voice is aaaalriiiight when I hear it in my head but when I record myself it's so bad
I probably would be one of those people to tell you not to make videos when you’re sick, but you’re a grown man so you can do what you want. As long as you’re still taking care of yourself and taking it easy.
I try to pass and just give nods, grunts and hand gestures unless I absolutely have to talk... I hate talking to people, especially once I (rarely) pass and my voice kills it.
If anyone is watching this now, I just want to give a helpful tip on this! Singing. It doesn't matter if you sound good or bad, it's about training your vocal chords. I'm going to use music words now so I'll clarify the meanings real quick.
Soprano- high range (female)
Tenor- highest range (male)
Baritone- middle range (male)
Bass- lowest range (male)
So, when I started I was a soprano. All I did was make a playlist of songs I knew really well, ranging from soprano at the top of the list, to bass at the bottom. I sang each song all the way through the playlist until I got to a point where I couldn't go any lower, and eventually I finished the entire thing. *Do not keep singing/talking at a range that hurts your throat or feels like you're straining your voice* just give it time and I promise you'll be able to talk in a lower range naturally.
I used to be a soprano. Now I can sing soprano to baritone (and a few bass notes) without starting hormones.
I think I did a video about my voice dysphoria a month ago. But I dont remember if I did or not. Dysphoria sucks badly for me and I know for others too! Love you!
I don't know that there is the word "voice dysphoria" until you said so. I have voice dysphoria too. I really not like to sing in public or with friends and my singing suck because I tried to deepen my voice and I like to sing men's voice songs. Once I heard about T for the first time it was like oh heaven door, I finally I find it. I have to just work my way there. By the way, I am pre everything.
I had this problem till I started T . Love my voice now
I have a bit of voice dysphoria, but I also have a little bit of a deep voice too. I can't wait for my voice to deepen!
I haven't came out to my family and luckily I have a pretty deep voice
ive been told multiple times that i 'look like a boy but sound like a girl' and it's so heartbreaking that that's apparently the only thing that stops me from passing
I have a fairly high voice (not on T) and I'm misgendered at work and by just about anyone all the time. It's really rough because all I want to do is not talk at all like ever besides with people who know and get it but my job requires so much talking and its so stressful lol
I changed my name a couple months back. I don't pass yet, due to a large chest and high voice, but I'm training myself over time. Online, people who just met me tell me I sound like a young male, which made me feel great. It's a start. However, I work in a job that requires me to talk and be friendly, which makes it very hard to speak in a low tone and train myself. I get misgendered all the time... It's very upsetting, but I hope that in time, I'll be able to start my journey!
i told people to use my name and pronouns way before i started testosterone and even got my name legally changed. i also was in speech in high school before testosterone, which was really difficult but I'm so happy I did it.
Your experiences at work were really relatable. If you would do a week on being trans at work that'd be really cool!
If I try having a deeper voice, which isn't that deep, it sounds like I'm mad and really rude to people.
IDK HOW I EVEN GOT HERE I WAS WATCHING CALL OF DUTY VIDEOS
There is definitely a point at which deepening your voice sounds fake. Still, I've noticed lately that being nervous around others will make mine "jump" and so I try to imagine that the person in front of me is someone I know and like, and it will naturally go back down.
(I hope this is not an odd thing to say, but ..) I hope good things come your way.
I'm lucky I have a naturally deep voice
My voice didn't changed at all. I was on T for 1 year and 5 months. I stopped because of that I was getting a lot of dysphoria. I'm better now.
i have voice dysphoria when i laugh or sing :/ i really like to sing and can't help my laugh so it sucks at times
l'm six months on low dose testosterone. My voice has changed noticeably, but it still gets read as feminine 100% of the time. I have a lot less voice dysphoria hearing recordings of myself now, though.
i don't have access to it...... (the place i live in doesnt allow that)
Well..
I can go whole school days without saying more than "hi"
My throat starts hurting very fast if I have to talk for longer than five minutes and my voice is pretty quiet
But I can't get myself to talk more because of how much I hate how I sound..welp
I personally feel that you need to be confident. Why should I inconvenience myself by not talking by just assuming that people are gonna make fun of my voice. CONFIDENCE IS VERY IMPORTANT FOLKS!
I was losing my voice yesterday and I sounded like my voice was breaking :)
I feel like the quality on your videos on FTMtranstastic is way lower than on your main channel /:
its raw...and i like it that way...especially Trytten's videos.
I used to scream, it makes your voice deeper and gravely. (Dont do this either lol)
I know a guy who is cis and not trans who has a very feminine voice. People mistake him for a woman all the time over the phone. Sometimes they even refer to him as a woman after he has corrected them which is very annoying.
Currently I'm a mumbler and everyone hates it including me because no one hears anything I say.
I have the highest, most girly voice aghhhh
I'm guilty of the angry transman eyebrows when I try to lower my voice!
Also, I volunteer at the local improv theatre in my town. Each week I introduce myself to people by my chosen name, Tristan, and then people misgender me. Really? You really think that Tristan is a girl's name? No, it's not "Trista," it's "Tristan." Thanks for making me feel like shit for the rest of the night.
I think voice changing is harder for trans women. (I'm biased, trans girl here) because our hormones don't do anything to our voice.
smoke weed!! my voice dropped like 2 octaves lmao it works
Only smoke blunts cause they're the harshest. Helps if you chainsmoke cigs too
please dont do that
Smoke weed erryday
When I try to deepen my voice, I end up sounding like I already smoked weed...
I love you videos but ...
I don't wanna see them disgusting hairy and full of bacteria armpits...yikes