2018 Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo FIRST DRIVE REVIEW
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- MotoMan drives the first ever sorta Porsche station wagon: The 550 HP 2018 Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo. Kicking off the episode from one of the most picturesque spots on Vancouver Island he goes on a deep dive of how Porsche differentiates the Porsche Panamera Sport Turismo from the standard Porsche Panamera - however, when he drives one of the more practical Porsches, MotoMan is presented with something he didn’t expect . . .
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I ordered a Sport Turismo Turbo today, 8/14/17. I used to own an Audi S6 Avant (because they wouldn't sell an RS6 Avant in the USA "Americans don't buy wagons") and I miss its utility. SUV's are just too big for me, as I only need room for two bikes inside. Colorado mountains are calling. Turbos are a "must have" up here. Love this Porsche offering!
When will you get yours? I ordered my ST Turbo a week ago.
Fred Kiekhaefer I just made a comment mentioning the existence of RS6(outside of the US LOL), glad to know you owned a S6 avant !
Cheers
Hello sir,
I have 2 questions for you.
First question: what do you do for living?
Second question: Can we work together or would you train me to be rich?
Sport Turismo over the sedan 100%. I didn't serious consider the Panamera until I saw the Turismo. Stunning, and it doesn't look like it's trying to be a 4 door 911.
Doesn't have the Transformers wing, though.
I didn't consider a Porsche until the Sport Turismo.
I would have the Sport Turismo Turbo. I really wish they mad the Turbo S E Hybrid in Sport Turismo form. There is something about being able to cruise back into your hometown in complete silence after making loads of noise along country B roads. I am from the UK.
Could not agree more.
Charles Marcus Davey What about the C roads?
Charles Marcus Davey Turbo S E Hybrid Sport Turismo will be announced end of next week in Frankfurt IAA fair.
and here it is
If I could only have one car for the rest of my life, I think it would be the Sport Turismo e-Hybrid. It's got everything!
I would take the Sport Tourismo because im from Germany and almost 20% of all new registered cars here are station wagons, they are just more practical :D
I'm a retired Navy Pilot who flew low level in the Vancouver area, beautiful is an understatement. Currently live in Northern Virginia the Washington DC area. My kids call me old school because I love wagons. As a Naval aviator I have no need to impress anyone. When I first saw the Panamera Turismo I feel in love. Just call me "old school" but this is not my Dad's Ford LTD station wagon with the fake wood siding. Have Gun Will Travel... TJ
Terrance Jones I
Sport Turismo definitely way better looking than the sedan. In fact, I'm moving from owning a 2015 Panamera 4 to the 2018 Panamera 4 Sport Turismo E-Hybrid.
i'm amazed by the ability of motoman to remember all the figures live, and especially to convert from cm to inches live when describing rotor sizes.
I own an E class wagon.... I will be buying the Sport Turismo Turbo. I'm from North Dakota, USA.
CAPTAIN LEAF BP sadly there's no HD truck by Porsche ;-)
This because it beautiful!
Maryland US
Yes! yes! yes! This is the car that will start a trend. Beautiful but noble. I want the diesel!!
Regards from Spain
Let me just add
Fuel consumption 6.7mixed
equal to a small/medium car
More aggressive driving please.
I would definitely choose the Sport Turismo over the "hatchback". I had the last American derivation: Cadillac CTS-V wagon (with even more power/torque ;-) Still regret selling it. If the Audi RS6 was available in the states, I'd be at my dealer tomorrow. My only issue with this thing is price - ugh. I'm fortunate to be able to afford these things, but there is absolutely no rationale for a car of this price.
This is not a Turbo S. The S Hybrid is not available as a Sport Turismo yet.
I think I'll go with either the ST or the Executive, the standard SWB Panamera looks too weird for me.
I find it odd the trunk floor is not covered in wood like in the CLS Shooting Brake ... Missed opportunity, Porsche!
Looking forward to hear your thoughts about the interior in September.
As always, excellent work, M!
I'd choose the wagon. My first car was a wagon and ever since I've only bought wagons. I currently own an early 2000s Volvo V40 T4 (the sporty version) because I'm a Volvo fan. I can't buy a car that is a version with less space. Feels like a step back. Plus, I generally like the way wagons look more. Forgot to add, I'm from Transylvania, Romania, Eastern Europe.
I would definitely buy the Sport Turismo over the standard Panamera. It is beautiful! And the standard version, although a great car, is not. I appreciate the extra functionality of the Sport Turismo as well. I love the V8 version (what a sound!), but for practical reasons would probably have to buy the V6. As you requested, I live in Philadelphia, PA
I have always found the Panamera interesting but impractical for me. I have E63 AMG wagon and cross-shopped at the time against Panamera, Audi S7/S6/RS7. I needed a real 3 across rear seat and a real cargo hold. The E63 wagon has that. These cars including the sport turismo do not.
John Mahoney I'm waiting to order the new E 63 S Wagon. Love this Panamera Sport Turismo, but I don't think it's worth the extra $65-$85k-I recently test drove the new 4S which was fun, but didn't have the power like the older Panamera Turbo S.
RS6 ?
I can't remember if RS6 is a thing, but it isn't available in USA.
The RS6 isn't offered in the US. I wish it was...the RS6 Avant is my favorite Performance Wagon.
Where is the Turbo S?
The Turbo S doesnt exsist as sport Turismo
yes I want one, I love the wagon that I have right now it just really needs work 2002 Ford Focus wagon. and New Mexico ABQ
Would definitely the sports turismo, looks so much better. Greets from Germany
This is what that car should have been since day one, instead of that meat hook abortion original
His Greatness McAnus esq I liked the original but it was a love it or hate it car. I thought then and now that it looks like a 4 door 928 and I think Porsche could make a new 928 based on it.
never a sedan, always station wagon! From Sweden.
Love this car, but no HUD (Heads op display) available! What the F**k were they thinking??! Also that clock sticking out in the center, needs to go!
AnarchoHumanism exactly what I thought. Porsche does that on purpose.
Sport Turismo over the sedan. It looks better styling wise, is just as fun to drive, and is much practical. The layout of the trunk makes it easier to get items in and makes it better to store. I'm from the USA. The only reasons I wouldn't buy any Panamera are (1)no manual transmission, (2) my 911 squeaks and rattles more than a baby's rattle so I'm concerned about build quality, and (3) The haptic feedback controls and general infotainment system look horrible.
This time I have a question for you: When you compared the 7-Series / S-Class wheelbase to the Panameras one, did you compare the US-standard LWB numbers? The Sport Turismo is only available with a short wheelbase, so it would make more sense to compare the SWB version of the competitors even if they aren't available in the US.
You are correct, the comparison is to the US models. Sadly, we do not receive the short wheelbase models in the US.
It's just that it sounds like a huge deficit of the Panamera when it's ''7-8 inches shorter'' than it's rivals, when it really isn't...kinda?
The review of the rear seats and a review behind the wheel are carried out in different cars. The colors of the salons are different. In the report, no word about it. Why? Thought we wouldn’t notice that? Well, we did. We are accurate observers. So, the next time make your work more precise, please! Greetings from Germany )))
I would have the sport Turismo. I love wagons / hatchbacks. I drive a BMW 3series GT now and had 2 Subaru WRX hatchbacks before. This porsche is a perfect next car, or maybe the BMW 640i GT. I live in US - NC.
I'd probably choose this over any 4 door non-SUV except maybe the M6 Gran Coupe. Now that I mention it, BMW need to make an M6 Shooting Brake.
Ok, so you get 2 cubic feet more space, not more usability, for the same car and Porsche wants $ 5,000 more? Makes sense. Not.
I’m from Texas and I would take the sport turismo even though I prefer BMW’s. If only bmw made a wagon version of the new M5!
Ok - I am getting a 2018 Sport Turismo Turbo- yes used - with Cohiba brown interior. So excited - can't wait. I live in NC - USA
Sport Turismo all day long. Am from Europe.
bar far one of the best car channels around, the only other shooting Brake on this level is Ferrari FF / GTC no? I agree with you niche market 😀
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I don't think the Turismo will sell well at all in the U.S. I think many American buyers still focus on traditional (as defined by what was attractive by 1980-1990s) looks of a vehicle. I like, and would buy the Sport Turismo because of the sum of its parts. In other words its a cerebral passion I have for this car, the GTC4 ferrari, the Aston Rapide etc.. But frankly I am continually disappointed by other people's opinions. The same people that hated the Gen I panamera will also hate, not dislike but actually hate, the Sport Turismo. And, if I can really take liberties, I think the secondary market will not be as kind to the Sport Turismo either. Its a very forward thinking silhouette, and many second, third, fourth hand porsche buyers are seemingly purely badge driven and frankly unsophisticated in an automotive sense. At least thats the way it seems here in Connecticut. Lastly, the pricetag is immense. A GTS Sport Turismo will be the connoisseurs choice and will certainly be north of $140k properly equipped. Again, forward thinking buyers may consider that good value compared to the cars I previously mentioned, but anyone uncertain of the design may be put off by such a stout number on a "station wagon". My 2 cents.
That rainbow tv screen and beep is supper annoying way to cut from shot to shot.
I'd choose the Sport Turismo, because it looks sexy and it's practical, and I'm from Sydney Australia.
Live in SoCal. Had 2 WRX wagons and now have a 911. Drooled over the Ferrari FF but can't afford one. The sport tourism is as close as I can afford to get. I want one with RWD and you didn't mention it's AWD only. Love the shooting brake. Like a big Z3 M Coupė
Porche Panamera Sport Turismo Turbo with the 2 seats in back. No question. I drive a Skoda Superb V6 AWD Combi (Station Wagon) and a few mid engine sports cars. Went from Saab to Skoda and I can fit stuff in the vehicle when we go to the mountains. From Australia.
I just bought the 2.9 hybrid tourismo in dark grey I am knocked out by it I live in Iteland☘️🇮🇪👍 I too am speechless with excitementI traded my 2015 Panamera 3.0 diesel there is no comparison.
I'de have the Panamera turbo executive w. ceramic breaks that I saw in Stuttgart while visiting their museum. Stockholm-Sweden. Also I rented a 740 this spring in Florida for 3 weeks, witch was an overkill for one person. But Hertz didn't have the CTS that I orded.
Hi MotoMan. Sport Turismo any day. Not only does it look better than the 'Coup' but does everything that version does. I drive a CLS Shooting Brake and to my eye it looks painfully beautiful but is more practical as well - I have a 4 and 10 year old children. I live in England.
The new Kia Stinger GT looks like a budget version of this. Got a twin turbo V6, hatchback and all.
I'd buy the Panamera sedan but ONLY because it comes in e-hybrid form. If the Sport Turismo had the plug-in hybrid option, I would be on the configurator right now. I am from the Rocky Mountain region of the US.
I'd buy the SportTurismo YES, because it's a very astonishing and beautiful piece of a 5 doors shooting brake .. I don't think that they're gonna sell of that more than the sedan, but what a car and what a design.
Riyadh - Saudi Arabia
I would choose the Sport Turismo as I need the space, the practicality. I live in the South of the U.S. I am a huge car guy, everything must be modified in some way. Absolutely must have the Techart Grand GT version of this!
A Mercedes Benz CLS 63 AMG could be a great competition given it is powered by a V8 engine. In addition to that it would fare awesomely as a hybrid as the biturbo chargers would kick in faster with an electric engine.
i'd get the ST but the lack of 5th seat is a huge bummer. I'm in the market for exactly that, and this 4 seat situation rules it out. Leaves me with E class wagon AMG since there is no option for audi RS wagons in the US, which really, really sucks.
I would choose the sport Turismo over the standard one. I like the looks of it much better. The new Panamera is a very good looking car and the new wing on the back seat s crazy!
BTW I live in Maryland USA.
I would have the Sports Turismo all day. I think the percentage would be more like 40/60 ST vs Sedan. But I am in the enthusiast crowd, so normal folks might like the sedan more. I am from the US.
I got a Turismo, same color as that one too....Best car iv ever had!
I'd have the sport turismo. Almost any wagon variant looks better to me. The turbo would be amazing but even the base would suffice. I'm in Vermont. Make wagons great again!
I would go for the "normal" Turbo S E-hybrid. I just dont like the shape of the back.
Im from Stuttgart, Germany
Greetings :D
I like both of them really much but the spoiler thing on the Sport Turismo is kinda throwing me off.
The ST has a nicer window line but I think I would still go with the normal one.
Panamera is my current "lottery" car :D
My wife is buying this version. However, since we are from the USA, we are calling it a crossover and not a station wagon. How do you vanity plate "family truckster"?
I'd take the wagon. On the other hand I'm biased as I currently have a golf r, bmw 328d sport wagon and an Audi rs7. So yes I like hatch/wagons.
The wagon, (estate, shooting brake) it looks better, I would like to know if the wagon is a little better aerodynamically. I can also get more stuff in the car. I have a German estate now. Then there is the bigger brakes and a very smart suspension. But not that rear seat, I agree with your choice of rear seat package. Queensland, Australia and you should see some of our stunning scenery too. Great video and I have done the subscribe thing as you instructed.
Get this FOR SURE..... Ontario Canada.....this thing looks awesome.... so much better looking than the panamera sedan... might even go into my local porsche dealer and have a look at it... though I am nowhere near buy one....
I would choose the sport tourismo from Southern California. Why, because I get more sport performAnce then a turbo cayenne with negligible space reduction for my family.
I am considering this exact car, a 2018 with low mileage, do you think I can expect decent reliability from it? Thanks.
How in the world could you compare this car and its VW Jetta-like seats to an S63 AMG lol. Different galaxy, let alone planet!
Would be interesting to compare this to M-B CLS 63 S Shooting Brake... which, I believe, is not available in US?
Panamera not a attractive looking car/sedan to begin with, but the sport turismo is worse looking! I'm taking the regular looking sedan. Detroit,MI
I’m about to purchase a Panamera GTS over the Turbo. I am from Canada but spending more time in the Sunshine state. I absolutely love the Sport Turismo more than the non ST.
Colorado, here. Will go for the Sport Truismo as soon as the ehybrid Executive Turbo is available here. Hopefully next year.
I'm from New Jersey and I think Americans would buy a station wagon as long as we don't look like a soccer mom or dad while driving it.
This one. It just looks so much better than the sedan. It's that simple. Porsche is wrong with the 20% estimate. Located in USA.
Ugly car. Sounds horrible. I'd pass on this. Get an e-class if you want A wagon. Wagon sports car - silly idea.
Sport Turismo over the sedan 100 out of 100 times. Why? Shooting Brake! Shooting Brakes are cool.
I like both the Sedan and the Sport Turismo, at the end of the day the Sedan speaks more to my soul than the ST. Not that I can currently afford either car. Denver Colorado.
Love your show, love that you are enjoying my home country, but would love a review done in Toronto to Sault Ste Marie to Timmins northern Ontario Canada in a new NSX REVIEW.
Don't remember exactly where this was, but it was north of Toronto in Ontario - stunning lakes! th-cam.com/video/Lg3V3AS-LyY/w-d-xo.html
MotoManTV awesome, possibly Muskoka (cottage country), but along Lake Superior is very mountainous and beautiful beaches great for sight seeing and great test for testing handling.
i am from ghana and i will choose the turismo because its different and better looking
i dont get it. for only 3 or so liters extra storage space, you're made to choose between this and the sedan?
there's gotta much more to this over the sedan, this is ridiculous
Awfull Sound issues.?!!! Always use battery's and charge them!!!
yes yes but please i want to see how the door looks like when you open it, the sound when you close it and oh i maybe crazy, but its matter how easy to get in or out the car. it is a must when reviewing a car. i hope to see that in your next review.
I would choose the sport turismo because it is better looking and more practical. I live in Chicago metro area.
Awesome vehicle, gorgeous Shooting-Brake Estate Variant
Australia, to answer your first question. The Panamera is not a good looking car to begin with, so making it into a "Combi" / Wagon doesn't really retract much. But I would consider it as a more practical alternative. To a Porsche 911. I'm a slim 175m tall person and the seats in the 911 are just..bullshit narrow, Couldn't go there as a daily driver. My daily is a Mercedes E class.
I know the Panamera has more "accommodating" seats, but I just can't get Porsche rubbish seating out of my head.
Having driven the Panamera 4S (Black) and the Panamera GTS (White) extensively. I am completely biased towards this car. It is a joy to drive and will put a large smile on your face every time. The best daily driver and you never feel it is too heavy.
I would pick the Turismo in Sapphire blue. The Panamera has always been notorious for its looks but I disagree, in a quirky way I loved the past design. The sport turismo for me is what the car should have been all along, a shooting brake with beautiful lines.
Yes, yes we lose the jet style wing and it is a big shame. Porsche please put it on the Sport Turismo Turbo!
Motoman, I helm from Boston, MA
Over here in Germany, the streets are still crowded with station wagons (or Kombis, as we like to call them). Thus, I would still prefer the sexier and more 911-ish premium look of the sedan. The few more cubic feet don't matter that much.
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I think it's just called Turbo.
Sport Turismo Turbo - Florida, USA - will trade my S8 for one soon & I love my S8!
sport turismo, europe👍
That is the coolest and fastest wagon on the streets and it's still a Porsche. The only other cool station wagon is the Mercedes E 63
This looks way better than the new 3rd gen Cayenne
sneaky sneaky... the car shown in the driving scenes is not the same you use when standing next to it... the one that drives is crayon..
A luxury car with those cheap ugly cup holders in the rear armrest. Tacky.
How many of you talking about which you would take can actually afford this thing?
This because it is more bautiful and more practical. I am from Germany.
Sport Turismo Turbo without a shadow of a doubt, as an Autobahn mile eater..
Porsche should make a Panamera R , just like the 911 R , with complete weight reduction and less electronics
Slickpete83 or just make a new 928 with an R version 👌
They wouldn't sell 3 of those. It's basically like making a racing version of the Honda Odyssey. The Panamera is supposed to be comfortable, luxurious and then sporty. Not in any other order.
that is utterly retarded
that must be the most ridiculous idea i have ever heard
don't give them ideas, they already have a million different version of the same car.
I bought the 2.9 hybrid It is jaw droppingly good , I love it
I agree that Stefan's 20% of overall Panamera sales is an underestimation of how popular the Sport Turismo will be and it's what I'd buy versus the coupe (disclosure: my dream Porsche is Carrera 2WD GTS with manual trans, regular PASM and any murdered-out blackwheel and trim nonsense returned to regular silver and chrome; digression over). The practicality, quasi-shooting brake + performance of the Sport Tursimo pushes my romantic grand turismo motoring travel buttons. I live in NYC but in a year or two will return to my native northern California. Now, mind, if money were truly no object and I wanted to carry 1-3 passengers + some luggage in style in a variety of conditions, I wouldn't get either. I'd forgo rear doors and get a Ferrari GTC4 Lusso.
It's not underestimated, it's cause offside of north America the grand turismo has an older and cheaper station wagon cousin called the RS6(605HP) .
Personally would take the RS6 over the sport turismo, more power, more practical and still great looks.
But on the other hand, the turbo S will be my way to go, just beats the rest in every aspect. And even the RS7, by a quite good amount, now that I mentioned Audi.
It's strayed you only mentioned BMW, MB, CAD as a comparison... I think the RS6/7 are both a good example for comparison for the turbo s and the sport turismo respectively.
Regards from Costa Rica
I would chose this for the extra trunk space. I live in the US.
I'm from Portugal. I usually dislike station wagons, but this Sport Turismo is a delight to look at. I would certainly buy one, probably the 4s (with the 2.9 V6) or the E-Hybrid (2.9 V6 Hybrid).
I would choose a Mercedes CLS shooting brake, because it's available here in Australia at HALF the price. In fact, my father recently bought a CLS500 SB (with the 4.7L V8 TT) and it's a pleasure to drive!
I ordered my Sport Turismo Hybrid (my 3rd Panny) because of the rear bench seat, so that my large dog has a place to lie. I'm from Montreal, QC. I have to admit, that the looks of the Turismo are growing on me as well. Nice review!
Gorgeous shot at 14:47 , but would go with the sedan all day just looks sportier
I would prefer the sedan (or limo) simply because I don't need the extra horse power with the Turismo Turbo. Also, I can sit much more comfortably in the Panamera with its slightly less aggressive side bolstering in the seats than the other Porsche models. I have to admit being a fan of all the "techy" features that Porsche offers. Given the cost of ownership with the various Porsche models, I've found that I can easily rationalize the many different optional features. I'm an inmate, er, uh... resident near Sacramento, CA.
Shooting brake for the win! PNW, Washington state.
RS6! I really feel sorry for you yanks you can't get it.