Warm Audio WA76 vs Klark Teknik KT76 vs Waves CLA76 vs Brainworx MC-77 vs Slate Audio FG-116
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The WA76 really brought out the room on the drums. There’s an open and idiosyncratic response going on that really works. The KT76 does this too, but with a little less vibe. The plugs were all kinda vibe-less, they certainly didn’t bring out the space between the notes the way the WA76 did. Great comparison. I really appreciate how you switched between the WA76 to the other 76 and then back to the WA76. Really helpful. Thanks!
Kt 76 for me, I like clean, not distortion...I know that's what you're going for with an 1176 . But I need transparency. I'm glad they made a 76 that gives you that.
I've always found the Waves CLA 76 to work very well in the context of a mix and quick to dial in. I own a WA76 and use it mainly for tracking and own many other 76 style plugins, which all have differences. I suppose it's all about context and how they work within a full mix. One version of a 76 may subjectively sound better on it's own in solo but if you are rolling off the bottom end, eq'ing or processing afterwards, you may find that another choice is better.
I'm the same, I still love CLA 76 Blue on vocals, nearly always wins for me.
To me CLA 76 is the best vocal compressor I ever tried. And not to say anything bad about this comparison video, but its important to notice that the waves version doesn't follow the same timing options as the original. Which means the fast attack, is faster than the other ones he compares with. So when he cranks the attack at fastest speed, it completely dulls the transients.
To me, the only way to compare these, is to find the sweet spot on each different hardware/software for the same audio clip, since the timings and saturation levels clearly aren't the same, even if the developers claim they are. Also, its worth noticing, its common for very experienced vocal producers, to use the CLA 76 over anything else in the same category, and to me, for good reasons. It sounds amazing if you know how to use it properly. And lastly, there's a reason it haven't been updated for ages, because it works, the CLA 76 is a modern classic.
Great comparison. The WA76 sounds alive, and unveiled. There's no need for a 2nd place at the Warm Audio price point IMHO.
the teknik is half the price imo way better deal
The warm is saturated that is why you think it sounds more open and louder. It is to me a cross between a rev D and a blue stripe. To much saturation for vocal, also you can turn down the input to the waves and push the level harder for a more saturated sound. You see that the different plugs and hardware tend to saturate and different input levels, the warm tends to get crispy faster then emulations. A real 1176 rev d does not get so saturated so soon. I do like the warm audio as color piece but I would not reach for it on a vocal....Stam has the better clone in this case. The bass through the warm causes it to distort even more because it is not very accurate in the low end, basically the head room is low on the warm which causes it to distort in a pleasing way for some things.
I love my WA76. It's great for tracking and mixing. I wish I had space & $$ for more of them.
Go with the LL2A compressor limiter from Little Labs. It's like 3 different compressors in one!!!! It kills these other cheapy compressors.
I work ITB 100% and the only 1176 i use is MC 77, is just freaking awesome
Any idea what the max samplerate support is? I use Reaper and they now let u oversample quite a bit.
@@mentalprogram5256 No idea
@@StereotacticMusic I messaged support ill get back if I get an answer.
@@StereotacticMusic they got back to me. I'm a bit disappointed.
Thanks for reaching out.
The native would be 96k
AAX DSP is 192k
Awesome comparison, thanks Barry
So humble yet very knowledgeable 👍🏾
just a quick suggestion on doing audio comparisons, its useful to flip the phase and combine two sources so we can hear what the actual difference is as well, sometimes that tells me a lot such as if I'm hearing a difference that really isn't there, etc
Good idea
I’m not too sure that’s a good test. It definitely lets you here the difference, however.
A lot of what you’re hearing is the nonlinear nature of the analog gear and even the programming of plugs.
For instance if you put a slate digital plug-in On an audio track and bounce it twice, Then re-import it to perform an old test. You will hear a difference.
The same if you do it with the same piece of hardware. So it does tell you there is indeed a difference, But it doesn’t exactly tell you what the difference is.
For instance if something is brighter then another thing you’re still going to have to use your ears to figure out the difference. All another test will show you is that there is a difference.
Notably logic plug-ins don’t program these nonlinear ‘analogue’ differences. So they do indeed cancel out.
If you do that, how do you know which track is responsible for what’s left?
Great video as usual Barry.
Gotta say that the Warm Audio impressed me a lot, specially on the vocals.
It sounded super great, pristine and with character, at least to me.
This would be a great purchase for that price tag.
Greetings man!
Thanks brother, appreciate the encouragement!
As a bassplayer who owns the WA76 (and the WA2a) I loved the Warm on bass here. Not only tonally but for its compression feel. Maybe a LPF would have got what you wanted..
I got caught up in the hype, and bought a W.A. 76 when they first came out, and were nearly £600. I was suspicious when I unboxed it and came across the Christmas tree fairy lights powersupply. It lasted around two months and sounded very sugary. I’ve had a hardware MC 77 for around 12 years. No contest!
Great video! Another one to consider is the Lindell Audio 500 series FET compressor.
i have never used a real purple but the purple plug in is really something. easily my favourite 1176 plug in by a long way
I think the Purple blows the other plugins away
Appreciate the comparisons and how it was done. It would be great to hear different musical genres in these comparisons. It seems R&B (as in soul, not Hip-Hop) and Jazz (contemporary smooth jazz, not straight ahead and no screaming saxophones) are rarely presented. Rock, Dance music and Hip-Hop seem to be the only genres that get attention.
That’s a great idea, I will try to incorporate that into future videos. Thanks for the feedback as well as watching!
Nice comparison video man!! Camera setup is 🔥🔥🔥 too!
Awesome video - thank you
Man, the high end of the warm kills it for me. I'm got Klark Teknik KT76 for that reason. The hardware is the clear winner though. It is wider.
Once u get yourself an LL2A compressor limiter from Little Labs you'll NEVER LOOK BACK!!!!! Trust me I own one. Those Klark compressors are cool if that's what you're into, but the LL2A is UNMATCHED.
Listening to WA76 vs KT 76 on headphones tbh the KT 76 sounded like it handles the Aggression of the vocal a lot more it’s a lot more transparent then WA, But WA added more body to the vocal it’s honestly what every your flavor, I’d rather have transparency, less color on your vocal again unless that’s what your going for,
Oh snap I'm intrigued. I'm looking at getting the wa76 so this should be fun.
Great video Barry thanks for your hard work. I'm finding it harder and harder to be objective with these reviews. I listen and watch to see which compressor your using and I find that my emotional response comes into play because I want the hardware compressors to win. In truth, everything sounded pretty good to me. I think what surprised me the most is the Klark. There is so much hate on for the Klark every where but honestly, I don't feel like it hurt anything.
Hey Todd, it’s always hard on TH-cam due to the audio compression. The Klark does a great job for the price, if a person can, it’s better to save up for the WA in my opinion.
I use the Klark all the time, but I see it as a compressor and not necessarily a spot on accurate 1176 compressor clone.
@@BarryJohns I agree with you on all points Barry. It is hard to listen for compression on you tube or anywhere else cause if it sounds 'compressed' then you'r probably over compressing? I don't know.
Barry, you need to get an LL2A compressor limiter from Little Labs. I own one, and it is EVERYTHING anybody ever wanted in a compressor. Trust me!!!! It's like 3 compressors in one. I honestly don't know how or why more people aren't "hip" to it. Smh. It's the greatest compressor I've ever used for tracking vocals, and it also has mastering fidelity capabilities (just one unit)!!!!
What interface/convertors are you using? I hear a clear improvement in the Warm. Do you need super high end convertors to see a difference in HW to SW nowadays?
Hi Barry, I run a small project studio relying heavily on antelope audio discrete DSP and a behringer adat 8ch preamp as an addon. I have been considering taking the plunge into the world of analog outboard gear, mainly on the way in. The new Behringer 1273 has my attention, should i start with that so i have two nice transformer based colored pre amps + eq or save for longer much longer and get the UAD 4-710D which gives me a different set of features ,
Great video! Really fun! IMHO Waves falls apart nearly every single time. It's sounds almost as if it phase shifts the signal path to the point where it thins out... Not my thing at all.
KT had some good stuff, it'd get the job done in a tracking setting IMO; but I agree that the Warm was the overall winner here.
Surprisingly, the Branworx wasn't doing it for me like I thought it would. Instead, I really enjoyed the Slate. It sounded the most "analog" despite it being a little grittier and saturated. (But I also like to use a fair amount of saturation when mixing anyhow :D )
I never liked the Waves 1176. Really SUCKS!!!!!
I get it…you love the warm audio 76 lol with that … the kt 1176 is awesome. I run a blue blueberry into a blue Robbie into a kt 1176 and it sounds amazing.
Brother, why are you getting defensive? I don’t understand that. I don’t particularly love the warm audio unit, I simply gave you examples to listen to. You don’t have to agree with my observations, I can understand that. Trust me brother, are way better 1176 units out there, they blow the warm audio out of the water.
@@BarryJohns I'm not getting defensive...everyone has there opinion...thats fine. I simply stated you picked the 1176 that sounded best to you. I don't have a problem with that. I really like my kt 1176. Everyone has different ears.
@@UniqueThaPoet all I ask is, know I own one and use it every day. It has its place and does a good job for the price! Make music with it brother, do what you do!
That Robbie is a pretty penny. My thing is is that if I spend a thousand bucks on a mic preamp I'm not going to run in into a cheesy compressor like the Klarke. I just personally couldn't do it. If my pre cost a thousand, my compressor is going to be one that can hold it's weight against other compressors that are known to be "boss".
Slate on the vocals was distorted whereby I found the Brainworx best on vocals.
Interesting results. I actually thought the brainworx sounded a little inconsistent in the low end of the bass. As if it wasn't compressing it fast enough. It seemed a little unresponsive there, which is why I would probably prefer the waves on that one. Great video!
Thank U Sir.
Great video. Warm audio stands outs good with adding harmonics. Would you consider sharing project files?
Not to get off topic but I'm curious about the new Arturia FX Collection 2 (has a 76 in there) plus seeing the comments. I'm becoming aware that the waves plugins are not the best. I commented that I wouldn't go down that rabbit hole of finding better but im still curious. lol
Can you give me some advice? would love to see a video on this... I want to buy a pair of compressors and I only have enough money to do it once. call it a cap of $1000 per channel. i could go a bit above but prefer not to. I was planning on some 1176 clone but found the RND 543 and am thinking maybe its better to get a neve product over a clone. its cheaper than a wes audio mimas but i dont see anyone really talking about it.
Great video. But if you have to choose only one as the overall one to use in your studio, which one will it be (assuming all have the same price)?
Looking forward to your reply.
If I could only have one, Brainworx MC-77. Simply because you can get a lot more mileage out of plug-in vs hardware even though the WA-76 sounds better.
@@BarryJohns thank you very much for your reply, I like the MC-77 too.
I have used the CLA compressor bundle for many years, especially the 2A. That’s my favorite too. Hope to see your review on this one.
Next to their great plugins, I think that plugin-alliance / bx worx is one of the best plugins company. This is the only company for which I have subscribed to their mega bundle. I pay only $149 per year get vouchers for more than $350 per year and I use them to buy their plugins.
Waves has served me well, but their upgrade plan is crazy expensive. I hope I will get a free upgrade of their plugins, compatible with the new mac platform / OS.
Btw, when will you make a studio tour video?
Thanks for all the great videos! Continue with the great work.
Even on my phone I could hear that the plugin sounds sharp and thin not smoothing the transients of the vocal nor giving any useful vibe
Klark is too transparent for an 1176. Works good but no character
Are we overlooking the fact that plugins only work AFTER the input to digital stage?
This gives hardware a distinctly greater advantage does it not? AFAIK there are no plugins that work BEFORE the audio to digital convertors.
You are correct and I cover that I’m detail on my videos about incorporating hardware into your workflow. That’s said, that’s not the purpose of this video.
@@BarryJohns : Ok! I feel there should always be a disclaimer on the matter particularly for newbies whenever a comparison of hardware to plugins are made, as it may not be obvious to someone starting out who thinks that they are just as good. And many are in fact "just as good" or close enough to being so. This is not a criticism in any form..... thanks for your videos.
@@louiseisobelevans I hear you, but and it’s a really big but, it’s impossible to cover every possible perspective when doing any video.
This is your preference and I get it, but others have other needs they want addressed.
It’s like trying to tell a story from each eye witness perspective, impossible to do, all anyone can do is focus on the overall message of the story.
Hopefully that makes sense.
Seriously, the CLA never got updated! You may as well have thrown the BF76 in there too 😅
I know right😂. Waves throws these old plugs on sale so cheap, it’s important that people know what they are getting.
If it's good enough for major label mixers, it's good enough for me... (I have many other new ones, as well)
It is good enough for Serban Ghenea tho
where are the sample files? i closed my current session so i could import them and a/b but they arent here 😮💨
What about ik multimedia black 76?.. i felt it is better then the wave version on drums.
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It is!!!! Ik Multimedia is DOPE!!!!
Warm is interesting. it has "vibe" to it, but also sounds rough around the edges. also it seems louder for sure in the vocal comparisons
*"also it seems louder"*
Because it is. The comparisons aren't volume matched, and they aren't blind, which makes them veridically useless.
@@ReductioAdAbsurdum yep
@@ReductioAdAbsurdum louder is going to always sound better
no timestamps?
try the Klanghelm MJUC and you will solve all you will never buy a plugin comp again
Facts!!!!!! I have the MJUC Jr, and it goes on EVERY VOCAL I RECORD!!!!
How'd you make the Purple Audio MC77 plugin display as a single unit?
Choose a mono version
Great demo
I heard a pumping in the vocal with the KT that I didn't hear with the WA. WA handled smoother :)
warm punchy
Good info!
Dude really loves Warm Audio 😂
Actually I’ve been pretty critical of them at times on my channel. As a matter of fact it upset their VP of sales and I was threatened, I quickly put him in his place🙏. For the record, same thing with Avid, I literally laughed at him when their VP of product development tried to threaten me with legal nonsense.
Don’t rush to judgement
@@BarryJohns Fair enough. I enjoy your videos
The warm has more character due to better circuit design and better transformers compared to the Klark Teknik KT76.
My experience with both KT and WA for this type of compressor clone is not that great. The KT after a year with less usage got the VU meter not working anymore. Sent it back for repair under warranty.
On the other hand, I ordered a brand new WA76 and attack was not reacting at all when turned. Tested on drums. Probably a defective unit and sent it back.
In the future I will give a try to black lion audio. Those clones are in my budget range.
Try an LL2A compressor limiter from Little Labs. It's like 3 compressors in one, and you can master with it with just one unit.
I just got a Bluey which would have been good for this test as well!
I also want one of those too!
@@BarryJohns can always try it out one time and do a analog shootout with the ones you have. I have a WA76 as well and I’d be curious the differences in sound between two of them. The Bluey is just wow though!
Very well done! Subscription!
barry johns... you like acustica audio stuff?????
Haven’t tried it
Acustica is CPU HEAVY. Good stuff, but wayyyyy too heavy.
@@lightafluident.9950 waaaaaaaay to heavy to the point of unusable.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist Lol, for sure. I just used one today and it tripped my session out, but it made the subject material sound like I had a real piece of hardware on it. I ended up bouncing the stem out with the plugin on it, and then pulling the stem back in by itself after deleting the track that had the plugin on it.
👋👋👋, very useful, thanks
Maybe it's TH-cam or maybe I still suck after 30 years of doing this, but aside from the very clear distortion on the Slate, I swear I can't hear any meaningful differences between any of these compressors on any of these sources. I tried listening blind first and nada. Then I listened again while watching the changes on the screen and I couldn't even use my eyes fool myself into thinking I heard a difference.
Interesting. What were you listening to them on?
@@BarryJohns My phone speaker... 😅
JK. I was listening on my iLoud MTM monitors and various headphones (HD 280 Pro, SHP 9500, M40x).
To be fair I'm a little fatigued from my current bout with the 'rona so maybe it's affected my perception.
@@Hermiel could also be a TH-cam thing. There is quit a bit of difference.
@@BarryJohns I'll give another listen in a few days when I'm back at 💯
@@Hermiel hope you are feeling better, I got lucky, I had very very mild symptoms going through it, but I have had some lingering after effects that I’m finding out is common for a while.
The fret buzz on the bass made the comparisons moot. Garbage in garbage out.
Not to be mean. I like your channel.
Hello! i have a question with the 1176 Warm audio, i hope you could help me some day, i have problem with the input of both of my units, idk if i am doing something worng, but i almost have to go pass by 12 oclock to start moving the needle (VU Meter), also i start hearing distortion in some point
The level you are sending is too weak. Describe the path.
@@BarryJohns ok si for example, im using a c414 to record, but i notice that if it reaches or pass -12db, wich i am doing -16 average, and to solve this problem, after recording i turn the fader all the way up without distorting, and then sending it to my 1176, idk if this is a correct way to do that, i hope u can help me, my father gave this to me as Birthday present lol, but still figuring out how to use it correctly
@@LaWhiteHouse_ that’s just the mic, what mic pre are you using. Tell me about the entire chain from mic to 1176
@@BarryJohns ok so, i do this
c414 > WA273 > Focusrite "18i20" (This is for recording)
Focusrite (output) > 1176 > Focusrite (Input) (This is for printing)
@@LaWhiteHouse_ OK got it. Just had to make sure that you had the basics down. Depending on what DAW you’re using, I’m sure you’ve got plug-in for analyzing the input and the output levels.
Put that on the track post any plugins or other Inserts but before the 1176 inset to see the level you are sending out of your interface to your 1176.
почему все унижает KT76? тут ваш Warm Audio ваще не работал.Только дал характер. А KT76 сжал как компрессор.Нам же нужно сжать трек? Мне очень нравился KT76
Great method for comparison. As always, the software is a joke in comparison to hardware. I think compression is the last thing for software to get right. They get away with EQ because there are little harmonics involved. Compression is adding a ton, and as you can hear, the software sounds 'empty' next to the hardware. Even when they get the saturation right, they smear the structure of each note. Hardware retains punch and definition while adding a bunch of harmonics.
Dude chill out because you damn sure couldn’t tell what was used if you didn’t see it or if they didn’t tell you..
@@BR_READDY225 I'm afraid for your meagre assumptions, that people can indeed tell, and thats why accurate monitoring is imperative if you want to produce high quality work. Also, hearing ability is not equal. Some have better than others, but you can train your ears (brain) to become more capable of distinction. Also with time and experience - but with accurate monitoring.
super
I don't understand why we don't see more black lion audio Blueys in lower budget project studios. I think it's way better than the warm audio for just a few hundred bucks more.
Maybe I’ll buy one and if I do, I’ll certainly do a comparison!
Maybe I’ll buy one and if I do, I’ll certainly do a comparison!
@@BarryJohns the Bluey is really good
@@tytansoundlab its a different beast then the blackface. It is in my opinion the best revision that Urei had. definitely more of a tone beast.
The original 76 that all of these products are copying hasn't been updated in a long time either. Newer no equal better.
Cant hear the difference between them tbh
Clearly the Warm Audio sounds wonderful, but this needs a really key thought, to understand what's going on. The Warm audio - has a digital to analog, as well as an analog to digital conversion, in the pathway. so that conversion will have an influence on the sound.
And one has to think of how these inputs and outputs were calibrated, i.e what audio level is equivalent to 0 DFBS on the inputs and outputs, cos changing this calibration, will introduce a certain amount of different "distortions", so its not going to be easy matching the exact calibration between the hardware and the software versions, unless you really know what you are doing.
Furthermore, in a compressor, oversampling may have a benefit, cos compression is a non linear transformation. So it depends on how well the compressors were oversampled internally to remove aliasing.
An interesting comparison nevertheless. Credit to the producer of this channel, who usually has something interesting and thought provoking to say, and much of the time has a well thought out conclusion, but obviously you also have to do your own thinking. Nice channel. Not too controversial, a good addition to youtube.
From all these comparisons, on several youtube channels, my conclusion is simply, two things - is this going to make a difference to your customer, the person who consumes the final result of your efforts. By consumer I do not mean only commercial consumers, but also those who listen to your results for free, if your audio effort is for a charitable purpose, or just music for friends and family. i.e. in all the energy that it takes to create a piece of music from start to finish, and publish and market it, how much of a difference does one compressor or another make? If your customer is paying a lot and you have a lot of competition, then every single incremental improvement, is a bonus to you, if it helps or you think it helps you come up with a better product.
So at the end of the day, its all about perception, using an inexpensive plugin, will still produce a result that is more than good enough, if you know what you are doing, and understand issues like aliasing. So a lot of this is not just the plugin or hardware, but the knowledge of the engineer. If you know what you are doing, you can make a plugin sound about as good as a hardware unit, like I said - If you know what you are doing!!! At least sound good enough that it should be good enough for your free listeners, to enjoy, with the low cost of your plugin not being the limitation.
Knowing how each tool contributes to the sound will help you bring the sonics closer to what you would prefer the audio to sound like. For most people - I would say - start out with plugins - and until you know how to crank out spectacular mixes with inexpensive plugins, there is no point investing in expensive gear, cos most of what makes a good mix, is the skill of the engineer - their ability to understand what each plugin is doing, and how much effort to spend on different aspects of the audio, cos some things are not as important to the final sound, which is also the real skill of an audio engineer - efficiency. We do not have 10,000 years to create a piece of music, so a lot of this is also about knowing your gear so well, that you can quickly obtain results with the gear.
This I think is where certain well known hardware units are justified, and are worth the high prices you pay for them. In a high value commercial setting, where time is money, and the customer is waiting, this is the real reason to invest in certain gear, cos 9 times out of 10, the controls, and the range of sounds it can produce, can result in a decent result - very quickly, especially the tactile nature of the knobs, as well as the sound.
So if you have customers who are "paying" for you to have expensive gear - sure please get some. Otherwise make do with what you can afford. In today's world where there are hundreds of free and inexpensive software plugins for every kind of processing, there is no longer any excuse, the only thing is each of these tools takes time to learn, and learn to be quick and efficient in using them to dial in the sound you want. This takes months and years of practice - listening, and constantly thinking about the craft, and the learning never stops. This hunger to know more, and apply the the knowledge more, and the countless hours, spent actually mixing and remixing things, over many years results in the "audio" skills where you can very quickly dial in an acceptable sound, 99% of the time, from tools you are extremely familiar with, this is the key, not how much the gear costs. Do you know your gear, and all its limitations, and how to overcome - i.e compensate where needed for its undesirable attributes? This takes months and years of practice, trial and error, making mistakes, and probably an attitude of never giving up on that ambition to be a superb audio mixing engineer, within the budget of the tools you can afford, which I think is mostly time and opportunity and effort, given that these tools in digital format are either available for free or not much money, if you really do not have much money to spend on these things.
The WA76 has "analog to digital conversion"?
You’re not going to tell the difference of any of these in a dense mix. Use the flavor you like!
Also the bass guitar sounds like garbage on all of them. Hire a pro and he will sound better, even with stock plugins.
For the drums example I am going to respectfully disagree. The Slate Digital sounded quite "boxy" *very* different than Warm Audio and very different to 76 - KT, MC-77 and in my opinion the Slate was closer to the Waves, although the MC-77 was closer to both the hardware units, which also for me are slightly different but for the money a single Warm Audio goes for, I would rather get a pair of Klark Tekniks, personally.
Generally speaking there seems to be something in the Slate plug in that saturates, a lot and it was audible in all examples. I don't own the plug in so I hope you're not tied to this sound, otherwise it would be something to reach for, for very specific situations.
I think there is something in the gain structure of the slate that seems off.
can u do this with uad plugins?
Anyone else bothered by the takes of the vocals not being aligned to the song's tempo?
Use the UAD 1176’s. They blow these hardware units away by far. Plus you won’t be contributing to the waste when you try to sell these hardware units but they end up in the trash at some point. BEFORE YOU BASH: I have worked in some of the biggest studios in Hollywood for over 30 years and have done all these tests. Unless you have real 1176’s from different eras you’re wasting your money on these clones because the UAD stuff is spot on.
LOL one thing that's definitely going to the waste soon is the obsolete UAD DSP cards. Hardware 1176s are going nowhere. UA is OK but not even as good as the MC77
I love how you somehow legitimize an "opinion" to make it a fact by saying your ears have decided that compared to the best and most expensive hardware in the world, UAD is better. Well my ears tell me a hardware unit like the KT76 is as good if not better than plugins. It isn't because it sounds exactly like a vintage 1176, but instead because it sounds like a good 1176 style compressor that retains the 3D sound on the kick and the snap of the snare as well as the width of the tone that UAD or plugs just can't get. Analog has more width, separation, and depth than plugins do. EQ's are getting good but compressors and summing? They still make a difference. In my "opinion" of course!
@ Adam .. I feel you I’ve done so many of my own compressor shoot outs where me and all my friends process with our hardware to the best of our ability for a song and share the session. I’ve tried all the cheaper hardware and wanted the warm and clones to hold up… if the sounded better than plugs I’d have racks and racks of them… but they do don’t. I do find some of the reissues blow the plugins out of the water … UA classics La2a,La3a,1176 but the vintage still bring a vocal up on another level.
The retro 176 is on this level to but it’s that fat tube sound not the quick fet.
Even better buy the real hardware and release best quality possible
People should use what works for them.
Waves is just awful.
Sound or policy?
@@HollerAtcherBoi update plan 😆
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