Scoring struggles plagued the Leafs as they lose their 7th straight winner-takes-all game

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  • The Maple Leafs came back from down 3-1 in their series against the Bruins to force Game 7, but ultimately lost in overtime of Game 7 to see their season come to an end. TSN's Leafs Panel breaks down the heartbreaking loss, how much adversity Toronto faced in the series, and what change could be ahead for the Leafs in the future.
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  • @steverobinson8771
    @steverobinson8771 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +127

    They played 7 games... only scored 12 goals... and went 1-for-21 on the power play. You're never gonna win a series with that 🤷‍♂

    • @cindybates68
      @cindybates68 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      they are just a regular season team

    • @wade7196
      @wade7196 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Holy mackinaw

    • @angiebee532
      @angiebee532 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I wonder when they're going to realize that passing Matthews the puck for a one timer in the playoffs doesn't work?

    • @willyupshaw
      @willyupshaw 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@angiebee532 Really? That's your takeaway? When they won two games without Matthews?

  • @sportsfan_913
    @sportsfan_913 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    I'm not here for the "well they battled back/they fought thru" crap. Their lackluster effort is why it was 3-1 Bs. This core has run its course.

    • @Dougie-ex1ov
      @Dougie-ex1ov 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @wade7196
      @wade7196 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Ho,y mackinaw

    • @GizmoBeach
      @GizmoBeach 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yup. Keefe can be all “Well, I’m proud of how they played etc.” but if he still has a job after Monday *and* that Playoff Disappointment Core remains by October, fans will keep seeing these moments play out for awhile longer.

    • @Mitch-ui8ps
      @Mitch-ui8ps 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Most overpaid and overrated core

    • @kode-man23
      @kode-man23 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Keefe got the guys to battle back from 3-1 and get the series all the way to OT of game 7. He’s earned another- 😂😂😂😂
      Sorry I can’t even troll anymore, it’s beyond sad at this point 😅

  • @kode-man23
    @kode-man23 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    As an outsider, this looks more like Nylander’s team than Mathew’s. He actually steps up and scores big goals.

    • @tydance8865
      @tydance8865 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      i feel like it's been his team for years i agree he's like the true heart

  • @sportsfan_913
    @sportsfan_913 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

    Boston's big time, highly paid star scores when it matters. Tavares? 2 points in 7GP. Marner 3 in 7. Matthews 1 goal. Rinse. Repeat.

    • @Mitch-ui8ps
      @Mitch-ui8ps 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yup most overpaid overrated core

    • @donaldcodes
      @donaldcodes 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      to be fair Nylander did show up.

    • @brianrokita253
      @brianrokita253 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      marchand love him or hate him has three goals and five assists in this series 5 mil a year...with a cap hit 6.125 mil..

  • @WW3_Soon
    @WW3_Soon 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Mitch Marner was the scapegoat with just one goal. Morgan Rielly didn’t come close to having a stupendous series that he had against the Lightning last season.
    Their combined total cap hit = $10.9 M + $7.5 M = $18.3 M could buy you two top pier defensemen, extend Max Domi long term and acquire a solid goalie.

  • @nightrain9288
    @nightrain9288 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    Stop blaming goaltending or defense. 12 goals in 7 games and 1-21 on the powerplay? Come on

    • @michaelcalland801
      @michaelcalland801 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That’s it right there. Look no further. 1-21 on PP is an failure on an epic scale.

    • @brianrokita253
      @brianrokita253 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      that doesn't get you deep in the playoffs..as a bruins fan i'm mostly happy with our success over the past twenty years..not epic or dynasty worthy..but pretty good overall.

  • @scottbaron121
    @scottbaron121 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    As a non-Leaf Fan...here's the bottom line: IF you try and run this same crap back? Expect the same results. THUS...there HAS TO BE A CHANGE. No more "tomorrows". It STARTS with the coach...but it ENDS with the players. There NEEDS to be a significant roster shake-up. And that's not the 3rd or 4th line.

    • @shanemccarthy3170
      @shanemccarthy3170 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Management was so bad under Shanahan and Dubas they all have no move clauses. No real change can happen for another year. Just need to hope Shanahan is gone before that.

    • @pajamatime5750
      @pajamatime5750 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@shanemccarthy3170Why do people say this? A NMC is not set in stone. Marner and / or Tavares can still agree to a trade or provide Treliving with a list of places they’d go. Meaningful change can happen despite their NMC’s.

    • @shanemccarthy3170
      @shanemccarthy3170 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pajamatime5750 It won't happen. Both have families in Toronto and grew up there. They can just play out next year and choose where they want to go themselves after. less than a 1% chance they aren't on the team next year

  • @AndreaHaupt14
    @AndreaHaupt14 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Great players elevate their game when the coach “calls them out.” They don’t throw their gloves.
    Marner needs to go.

  • @pomerlain8924
    @pomerlain8924 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    It's going to be more than a coaching change Dreger. Shanahan is a good as gone. It's been 10 years.

    • @cashflownpv
      @cashflownpv 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I hope you're right

    • @stangsswang8355
      @stangsswang8355 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      FKN Right!!! This guys an INSIDER?? A NUTLESS one. Shanny's plan sucked and it's over last year when Dubas basically bailed for PITT. It was a SHET PLAN to begin with!! Shanny and the coaching staff are gone.

    • @billboggs6641
      @billboggs6641 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There are dozens of names on the Stanley Cup that most people have never heard of. Some GMs know why. Leafs need to find out what type of players these are and make an adjustment

    • @shanemccarthy3170
      @shanemccarthy3170 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Shanahan should have left with Dubas. Ownership isn't worried about winning they care about being relevant and making money. They will come out with the same we are close message and run is all back and we know the result

    • @cincinnati8087
      @cincinnati8087 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's exactly the point though - it's been 10 years and he HASN'T gotten fired yet. Why would he get fired now?

  • @HANKGAGNON
    @HANKGAGNON 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    That hog wash. The Bruins Centers are not Hall of Famers by any means, but to say the Bruins have 3 3rd line centers is not true. Tell me one team in the entire league that has 3 or 4 centers on their roster that are legitimate 1-2 line centers. none. The league is competitive and talent is spread out and watered down.

    • @reannekewsh8618
      @reannekewsh8618 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      100% if we are being fair everyone would call bergy and krejci legit top 2 centers but the Bruins top 2 centers this year had more points then those 2 last year so like I don't know why people are discrediting them so much

    • @Sourmilk69
      @Sourmilk69 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro Zacha is their number 1. Zacha. Lol

    • @HopefulNihilist
      @HopefulNihilist 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Probably only Vegas.

    • @Sourmilk69
      @Sourmilk69 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HopefulNihilist Edmonton. RNH is a good second line centre, drai and mcdavid are number one centres. There’s also Vancouver

    • @scooter29
      @scooter29 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sid and Geno

  • @Killerjy
    @Killerjy 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    5 players have a combined 400 season points. 1 goal in game 7. Can’t blame goalie ever with that kind of pathetic display from the big 5

  • @raph8505
    @raph8505 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    cant say im suprised...
    it's the same old story that we've heard for the past few years; first round exit and losing againest the Bruins😮‍💨

  • @Desert-Father
    @Desert-Father 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    A 65 year tradition of the Leafs getting mulched in Boston.

    • @DANNY40379
      @DANNY40379 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      what tradition?

    • @shanemccarthy3170
      @shanemccarthy3170 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Boston has nothing to do with it. Leafs lose to everyone don't feel special

    • @tedcity5861
      @tedcity5861 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@DANNY40379pay attention

  • @AlwayzFresh
    @AlwayzFresh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Never thought for a single second this team could beat Boston. Insane to expect a different result.

  • @patrickkavanagh5335
    @patrickkavanagh5335 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    58 years and counting. Absolutely loving it 😍

    • @Smartphone-im7bw
      @Smartphone-im7bw 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What's there to love?

    • @patrickkavanagh5335
      @patrickkavanagh5335 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Smartphone-im7bw well lots. Toronto make believes suck!!!!

    • @alexwind7123
      @alexwind7123 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Smartphone-im7bwleafs losing again lmao

  • @rogerkniffen3670
    @rogerkniffen3670 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    If Dreger is right and Shanahan is not fired then nothing changes what so ever. This is his team. He has pulled the strings behind the scene. It is time for a tear down of management.

    • @sempcast
      @sempcast 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i agree, if Shanny isn't gone.. expect this insanity to continue one more year...hooray!

  • @craigharrison5406
    @craigharrison5406 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Last four game 7's the Leafs have scored a total of three goals.

  • @blakeley38
    @blakeley38 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    As a leafs fan I’m done with this team and management

    • @cincinnati8087
      @cincinnati8087 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're full of shit. You and I (as another leafs fan) BOTH know we're going to begin watching them again three weeks into next season.

    • @tedcity5861
      @tedcity5861 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A great comment from 2018

  • @johnwicks4936
    @johnwicks4936 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Weakest Bruins team in 10 years that will get munched by the Panthers but this star studded Leaf team STILL couldn’t get it done. Samsonov was not the issue. Look at that winning goal and Marner didn’t even try to catch Pasta as he passed him into the Leaf zone and the defence was fully asleep.

    • @BratatoChip
      @BratatoChip 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’m gonna laugh my ass off if we beat Florida

    • @DANNY40379
      @DANNY40379 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That goal was a set play by the Bruins, Sammy was too far back he should have poked the puck away

    • @johnwicks4936
      @johnwicks4936 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@DANNY40379 I keep seeing people blame Sammy and if Woll had played it would be different. Well, if you’re going to believe that then I will add, if the Bruins hadn’t been silly in game 2 and stayed with Swayman the Leafs would have been swept in 4. Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

    • @bradleyhenry2411
      @bradleyhenry2411 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@DANNY40379 seen a different angle. He had no chance to come out and make a play against Pasta's speed on the dump.

    • @sempcast
      @sempcast 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sammy WAS a MAJOR issue, but I agree Panthers will lose first game due to rust... then dust the Bruins in 5... that is unless Sway becomes the Bob of last year and they goto the Cup finals!?!!!

  • @24theMoney
    @24theMoney 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Leafs score first, then all of a sudden their defensive play strategy goes down the drain.

    • @shanemccarthy3170
      @shanemccarthy3170 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They scored 12 goals in 7 games. Defence was not the issue. Paying Mitch Marner and Tavares 22M to be invisible is the problem. Unfortunately they both have no move clauses so nothing can really change for another year. Need to fire Shanahan and get a new vision for roster building

  • @charles6180
    @charles6180 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Changes should have been made to Leafs management and CORE when they blew their 3-1 playoff series lead against the lowly Habs 3 years ago. Little has changed since.

  • @GSonDunn
    @GSonDunn 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    The fact that if they were even 25% on the PowerPlay, they easily would’ve won the series.. that’s an extra what four or five goals?

    • @JohnSmith-jb2jf
      @JohnSmith-jb2jf 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not really a realistic expectation vs a #7 league PK.

    • @robrick9361
      @robrick9361 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@JohnSmith-jb2jf Tell that to the Oilers 45% powerplay against the team that was number 2 at the pk during the regular season.

  • @wainber1
    @wainber1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    To a claim made by Jeff O'Neill (from the 6:38 mark) about Tavares, there IS a precedent for stripping an NHL team captainship: that of winger Blake Wheeler, from whom in mid-September 2022 then-Winnipeg Jets' head coach Rick Bowness (still for now the Manitoba team's HC) stripped the captaincy. It IS about results, and late-summer 2022 had been near the end of an offseason that'd started with the Jets' having not qualified for postseason play.

    • @02smithm1
      @02smithm1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      JT needs to have the captaincy stripped. The league's most boring captain on the team which needs a strong leader the most. Leafs need more then just 'leading by example' on the ice. They need passion, screaming at the underperforming players in the intermission, dragging them back on the ice when they aren't putting in enough of a shift.
      JT is NOT the man to lead this team (his playoff record has been poor going right back to his time with the Islanders).

    • @wainber1
      @wainber1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@02smithm1 JT no doubt needs the Blake Wheeler treatment although TBD will be whether Sheldon Keefe, or whomever succeeds Keefe as Leafs' head coach, will find his inner Rick Bowness on pulling-the-Wheeler on JT.

    • @47moochy32
      @47moochy32 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jt the rag doll captain

    • @DaBenzo923
      @DaBenzo923 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Guys got 1 year left. What's the point?

    • @wainber1
      @wainber1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@DaBenzo923 A culture change is necessary, and stripping JT of the captaincy would send a message to him and the team that things are going to change whether or not he wants things to change.

  • @Jeff-nf9ii
    @Jeff-nf9ii 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Tavares also sucks as a leader what are they talking about holy. These panels are weak compared to American

    • @michaelreid5615
      @michaelreid5615 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ya Frankie Corrado is a joke

    • @joeyparm9887
      @joeyparm9887 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree,.. they all look like upset whiny brats except for Dragger. Toronto is a regular season offensive team with zero credibility even sniffing the playoffs

    • @raptorsfan6076
      @raptorsfan6076 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Finally some fans aren't blindy loyal to JT. I said it before he's overpaid and overrated. He's a no show in the playoffs. He's going to get worse. Old and slow....

  • @Nowhere_Man_1953
    @Nowhere_Man_1953 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    As soon as I saw that goal I wondered where the hell was there any urgency from the Leafs to get to the puck that was shot in the Leafs end. Reilly was nowhere near the puck after it bounced off the boards. Only Pastrnak saw the play & responded. Poor effort & game over for the Leafs. They were outhustled in the end.

    • @DANNY40379
      @DANNY40379 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It was a set play the Bruins practiced over and over, Sammy should have been further out and poked the puck away

    • @pajamatime5750
      @pajamatime5750 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Set play or not Sammy, Reilly and Marner all performed poorly during that play. If one of them 3 played that with heart it wouldn’t have resulted in a goal.

  • @pomerlain8924
    @pomerlain8924 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Amazing how a team that is built so top heavy has scored 2 goals or fewer in 13 of their last 14 playoff games. And the one game where they did score more than 2, was when they scored 3 in Game 2 of this series.
    That is not good enough. For what the Core is being paid, they are supposed to elevate their game in the playoffs. And once again, they pulled a disappearing act.

    • @angiebee532
      @angiebee532 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nylander almost single handedly won this series, keep that in mind.

  • @justinharasyn1574
    @justinharasyn1574 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Lol the core won't change. We'll be having this conversation the same time next year. Boston always has more heart.

  • @kyledelcotto4550
    @kyledelcotto4550 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Samsonov not poking that puck is rediculous

    • @raptorsfan6076
      @raptorsfan6076 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yea it's Sammy he will screw things up for them. Can't believe they didn't get rid of him early in the season and still find a way to give him so many chances. That will haunting them this offseason...

  • @DeeAnthonyz
    @DeeAnthonyz 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a Canadian one thing I noticed about our own sport pannels/ commentators/ analysts is that they breathe life into the opposing team. Our home teams will be winning, and our own commentators will end up talking about what the opposing team needs to do to stay in the game. You can't be a homestead commentator and doubt them at the same time

  • @swavekbu4959
    @swavekbu4959 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have to agree, suddenly lots of open ice in overtime. Leafs were doing a great job the rest of the game tying up the Bruins. WTF happened?

    • @stangsswang8355
      @stangsswang8355 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not one guy stuck with Pasta and Sammy hid in his net,,,,,GAME OVER

    • @GizmoBeach
      @GizmoBeach 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stangsswang8355
      Samsonov comes out the crease and misplays that puck, he’s excoriated for it forever.
      The problem was Pasta gives it to Lindholm who slings into a deep corner purposely (icing the puck) and Pasta turned it on while the Leafs basically switched off.
      Lyubushkin was on the Left Side of that play and HE was as close or closer to Pasta when he scored than any Leaf on the Right or Down The Middle. He showed a bit of urgency while his mates hit the snooze alarm puck-watching.

    • @sempcast
      @sempcast 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      set play... a good one, that caught everyone off guard!

  • @Moyopheus
    @Moyopheus 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Nearly statistically impossible to lose 7 of game seven games....

  • @pierresoorden5975
    @pierresoorden5975 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    1.71 goals per game in the playoffs

  • @jonathanquintan3871
    @jonathanquintan3871 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    No more excuses, the leafs need to change, or else the fans will burn the arena, riots will ensue , and chaos will reign down in Toronto . Thanks a lot Sheldon Keefe u bastard!!!!!!!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

    • @sevenlevels234
      @sevenlevels234 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nothing will change

    • @ivansilva1580
      @ivansilva1580 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree 👍

    • @Mr4one6
      @Mr4one6 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      There will be absolutely none of this.

    • @pajamatime5750
      @pajamatime5750 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤡🤡🤡

  • @davidforestieri4784
    @davidforestieri4784 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When Keefe's postgame involved him talking about the 'Leafs' in third person, seems clear he already knows he's gone

  • @jackdavidson4548
    @jackdavidson4548 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    3 3rd line centers gets stuff done pal

  • @droppin_sik_beets
    @droppin_sik_beets 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Toronto loses in the playoffs...what a surprise. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the NHL. 😅

  • @armandolarade7861
    @armandolarade7861 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Marner will never amount to anything in the post season unless he gets in the dirt, he has the hands to get it done...we're still waiting for that to happen.

  • @jimlangdon1947
    @jimlangdon1947 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Matthews likely would make an elite playoff winger. Matthews is a nobody in the playoffs at Centre ice.

    • @sempcast
      @sempcast 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the old Toews/Kane thing? maybe... hmm

  • @shinobi7742
    @shinobi7742 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    MLSE does not know how to build a Stanley Cup winner. They know they will still profit even if the Leafs have a losing season. Stanley Cup is just extra icing for them. What year was it the last time the Leafs won a cup? I rest my case.

  • @NycktheDyck
    @NycktheDyck 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally now that the Leafs are done, I can go back to watching playoff hockey without my phone blowing up all the time with TSN and SN spamming Leaf notifications!

  • @jared2232
    @jared2232 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dad's a die hard leafs fan. So, I've followed them closely for years and watched too many games to count. My personal opinion is that the leafs have always had the same type of team structure. For as long as I can remember, they've always been front heavy with finesse forwards. Guys that can put the puck in the back of the net but are scared of their own shadow. Come playoff time, you need guys with grit who aren't scared of playing physical. Trade away one of the finesse guys and get some help on the back end.

  • @johnefrederick1590
    @johnefrederick1590 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This isn’t the most painful (at least not for me). Nothing will top blowing it against the Habs. That is when this team should have been blown up…..this team wasn’t going anywhere with Samsonov in net, and that’s not to blame the goalie it’s just if you’re going to build your team like this you better have a top 5 goalie back there.
    Woll showed glimpses but can’t seem to stay healthy. We all know the entire pay structure of this team is out of wack, but I’m afraid we may be stuck in cap purgatory for another year before we find relief.

  • @angiebee532
    @angiebee532 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It starts in the regular season. The focus has to stop being on Matthews personal achievements. The team has talent. Other players can play. But they have no clue how to play together as a team because they are conditioned to play strictly for Matthews to get a goal. If that mentality and coaching style continues, you will continue to suppress the rest of the players abilities. They are throwing their own players under the bus every year heading into the playoffs. You never trained them to work as a team in the regular season and didn't give anyone else enough ice time to give them confidence to play. Then, in the playoffs every year, Matthews is one of the most unreliable players and you need the rest of the team to play and they don't know how because Matthew's one timers are not an option in the playoffs. So fix that. The proof that this is 100% a problem is that nylander wasn't there for the first 3 games and we barely made it. As soon as matthews was out the team played. Matthews came back for game 7 and that mentality instantly defaulted back to Matthews has to score. So the rest of the team said screw it. And we lost.

  • @xaviergrande2819
    @xaviergrande2819 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I needed this video to help me cathart.

    • @garymurphy4063
      @garymurphy4063 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lrt Marner go, did nothing..

  • @ianmartens5286
    @ianmartens5286 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why did they not load up the top line when needed? I only saw Matthews Marner and Nylander together once.

  • @bl4ckmac
    @bl4ckmac 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Need goaltending and score goals when being defensively sound. Who gets moved?

    • @stangsswang8355
      @stangsswang8355 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Marner,,,Jarnkrok,,,Kampf,,,Reilly,,,Liljigren

  • @willzimjohn
    @willzimjohn 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A coach's speeches have little to nothing to do with winning. The players aren't going to think: "oh crap, we have to try harder because the game is really important; why didn't I think of that?!" You need a good system based on the talent you have. Marner and Matthews don't have the compete level in them to pay a physical price like Bergeron. Domi has the drive but not the talent or the smarts, again, like Bergeron. Their system is built around their elite scorers yet they had more success with below average scoring games without the best scorer in the league and the stars were a backup goalie, and just one of their core, Nylander. They thought Tavares was going to put them over the top when actually it likely led to years of failure. They already had prime scoring. They needed a stud defense that they could have got moving up in the draft or overpaying a declining team with what they resourced to JT. Instead, they overpaid JT and Marner by a lot.

  • @goodflop255
    @goodflop255 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    4 overpaid forwards with no trade deals. What could go wrong. They only show up sporadically in the playoffs, well 3 of them, Marner doesn't show up at all and should have been traded last year if he wasn't given such an asinine contract. Who would you rather have on your team Marner or Zack Hyman? 8 years wasted with this bunch and I would be surprised if even one of them cares. Too much money for too little effort and too little return. Why should they play hard?

  • @user-yg1dg6xm2g
    @user-yg1dg6xm2g 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If Tampa Bay had Swayman in net during the playoffs last season instead of Vasilevsky, the Leafs would have lost in round #1.

  • @shakrmakr
    @shakrmakr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He put the 4th line out after the Leafs scored and he put Gregor who fuckin sucks and took a wide angle shot and bobbled the puck twice giving it away which caused the tying goal.

  • @user-vh9vw7un9b
    @user-vh9vw7un9b 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Matthews wanted more ice time. Lou and Babcock would not change their style to fit any player even if it is their highest scorer. Enter Dubas and Keefe. Keefe had to eat his own words to sooth Matthews et all.
    No one wants to talk about the elephant in the room because he scores 69 goals. Remember when Matthews was ragged dolled and the entire Leaf bench looked on with zero interest. Zero response. Anyone how has played hockey, has followed hockey knows why.

  • @TheFernzilla
    @TheFernzilla 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another disappointment for the Leafs and the "greatest American born player" provides little in this series. Toronto fans and media need to reevaluate what they say and the titles they hand away to players that haven't led their team to success.

  • @andygrenn680
    @andygrenn680 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Let’s play this series again…it was that good. Go Bruins!

  • @1stVARifleman
    @1stVARifleman 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've seen a lot of comparisons of the Leafs to the Sharks recently. Maybe Patty and Jumbo brought some cross-over curse. Obviously, not, just kidding as a Sharks and Leafs fan. For the Sharks, at least they got to the Western Conference Finals 5 times and the Stanley Cup once.

    • @sempcast
      @sempcast 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      lost to Sid the Kid, dual Sharks/Leafs fan here as well :)

  • @jamesp.3951
    @jamesp.3951 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In Keefes defense he would had played Woll but he was injured. Leafs goalie could had attempted a polk check on that Pasta game winner but that was a 50-50 gamble also. Lindholms shot pass to the corner boards was definitely a play they had practiced. The defense should had at least tried to stop Pasta even if they took a tripping penalty in that situation.

  • @gdeyell9471
    @gdeyell9471 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Their primary focus down the stretch was to get Matthews 70 goals; however, it should have been to prep for round 1 and figure out how to play playoff hockey starting at Game 1 instead of Game 5. Blame Marner all you want, but Keefe (and probably the higher ups) chose to focus on Matthews' personal stats over team success.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    continue developing team play without puck, active defense zone coverage?

  • @TH-tl6sy
    @TH-tl6sy 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sad to see another Canadian Team fall, first the jets now the leafs. Next round another will be out. Just want the cup to come home. 😢

  • @donvanraay5051
    @donvanraay5051 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:00
    "They don't score enough. I never thought that would be a problem"
    Huh?
    That has been the problem in the 2020 (Nylander & Kerfoot were highest scorers),, 2021, 2022 and 2023 playoffs.
    .... with the exception of Mathews 1st series of 2023.
    .... Mathews and Marner have pooped the playoffs bed since 2020

  • @scott70
    @scott70 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    People in Toronto have to....LEARN THE GAME !

  • @MicroSausage
    @MicroSausage 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You calling Charlie coyle a 3rd line center? Get out of here.

  • @danmaja6275
    @danmaja6275 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Taveres is not the issue, There were others that played all four losses that are. Not much of a panel when the men don't let the lady voice her opinion.

  • @gorgeousgeorge5173
    @gorgeousgeorge5173 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Toronto Sports Network acting like Leafs playoff exit is an aberration and not a yearly thing.

  • @jamesdecember7323
    @jamesdecember7323 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What is the panel praying for?

  • @darrenbc6751
    @darrenbc6751 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imo if they aren't tearing it all down Marner will be in St.Louis or Chicago next season

  • @yvespetit2004
    @yvespetit2004 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watch CH next year that will be the surprise....GM, Coaches this is what the Leafs should work right NOW.........reconstruction this is the key ...........

  • @caitlincaitlin4703
    @caitlincaitlin4703 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    they played better than i thought they would.

  • @jonathansmith9765
    @jonathansmith9765 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really don't think the Leafs can move on from this era without getting rid of Shanahan. I agree that Marner, Tavares, Samsonov, and Keefe all should be gone, but if I'm Keith Pelley, the first order of business is firing Shanny.

    • @mikesmith6543
      @mikesmith6543 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Totally agree with all your points

  • @haysbrickell9579
    @haysbrickell9579 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Are the Leafs going to make some changes? probably Will the changes have little to no effect on their on-going post season failure? probably Is Marner being unfairly scapegoated? probably Will the Leafs be a relatively competitive tier 2 team in the EC for the forseeable future? probably

  • @JakeMCGreen
    @JakeMCGreen 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel so sorry for Leafs fans. The players are absolutely to blame. They almost look like they’re expecting to lose. Poor Sheldon Keef too, he will probably get blamed for his player’s LACKLUSTER post season abilities

  • @tontsanthony5766
    @tontsanthony5766 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think if Woll played Leafs probably win , Samsonov should have poke checked Pasta, that's goaltending 101

  • @swavekbu4959
    @swavekbu4959 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Allowing Pasta to get behind your D like that in OT is inexcusable. Leafs didn't allow that for 60 minutes! First two minutes of OT and they forgot how to play D. Being "cautious" in OT doesn't mean playing slow and forgetting how to play D!

    • @Tommy-bf8rh
      @Tommy-bf8rh 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      1 word!!!!!!!!!! Reilly

  • @user-sk8jx4rx7h
    @user-sk8jx4rx7h 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've been telling all over the internet for the last 5 days if matthews plays next game they will lose..!!!!.....I WAS SOOOOO RIGHT ABOUT THIS..!!!!

  • @anthonydurante1149
    @anthonydurante1149 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it me? Or is O-Dog slimming down? Looking good Jeff!

    • @donsparkes3080
      @donsparkes3080 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He wants to lay Pounder

  • @AlfredDelia1
    @AlfredDelia1 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If we find a way to get Marner and Tavares off this team next year I think even Sheldon could get us to the third round. But fire Shelly too lol i’m so beyond done with this org running the great month of May

  • @maggotthemadman8142
    @maggotthemadman8142 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Horrible power play, teams aren't afraid to bully them around and get penalties because they know the Leafs PP is the worst in the league. Just watching that OT winning play is so frustrating too, and I'm not even a Leafs fan. All Leafs barely skating, watching the play while on the ice, with Samsonov just sitting inside his net looking like he just seen a ghost with Pasta coming in.

  • @jeffyfielding3360
    @jeffyfielding3360 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank You Boston...from the majority of Canadadians who hate the CBC, the Leafs and the city of Toronto in general. The armpit of Canada...

  • @brianrokita253
    @brianrokita253 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bruins fan here...i know people love to trash marchand..some of it is deserved but he's trying..lol. but he has three goals and eight points total in seven games decent stats so far.

  • @chuckysith
    @chuckysith 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just can’t get over the line

  • @mhart9279
    @mhart9279 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Brad Treliving is not the guy to lead the Leafs out of this mess. He was a failure in Calgary and he was a lackey in Dallas.

  • @shabazzed
    @shabazzed 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    tavares is the sleepiest and most ineffective captain in the league but of course tsn analysts will still come to his defense

    • @raptorsfan6076
      @raptorsfan6076 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      JT is overrated and overpaid. Glad to see some fans not blindly loyal to him.

    • @mikesmith6543
      @mikesmith6543 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes true. I often wondered whether that big hit he took a few years ago affected his motor skills

  • @tryingtobefairandobjective3480
    @tryingtobefairandobjective3480 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Roll it back. Roll it back. Roll it back.

  • @paulmarimootoo2059
    @paulmarimootoo2059 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dreger and everyone on this panel except for o-dog needs to be fired. They are all atrocious.

  • @stevenb590
    @stevenb590 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Didn’t play bad and they showed some gumption this series but the results are the results and to many cracks at this to keep having the same results. Gotta change it up

  • @rapideye85
    @rapideye85 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stop talking about stripping the C from Tavares or trading him. He barely touches the puck unless he's advancing it while the team barely sets him up for 3 straight years. How can everyone not see what is obvious?..the guy routinely finds open ice in the o-zone...and play after play after play since Sheldon Keefe has been the coach Tavares doesn't get set up! Look at how much a player like Sam Reinhart gets the puck or Patrice Bergeron when he played. It seems that all Top 6 centre in the NHL get lots of setups except for John because he plays with such diva Core 3 players. HIS ONLY GOAL OF THE PLAYOFFS CAME FROM A SILLY LOOSE PUCK IN THE SLOT - AND THEN HE BURIES IT WITH AN ELITE AND ELUSIVE SLAP SHOT - IF THAT LOOSE PUCK DOESN'T HAPPEN, JOHNNY DOESN'T SCORE AT ALL BECAUSE THIS TEAM CAN'T PASS FOR GOALS. Other than that he was battling his ass off, winning draws, puck battles and nobody was passing back to him...This forward group hasn't set him up routinely since Babcock was the coach. Tavares sacrificed his legacy by joining the Maple Leafs and should be thanked immensely for puting up with this bull. IMHO, an excellent captain. This current iteration of the Maple Leafs is what has held Tavares back. Get rid of the coach and get somebody old school again so that John can finally be set up again. Marner and Reilly should waive, sign everybody else. TAVARES cannot be replaced until about 36. There's no other C in the league that can do what he does. Be honest. His skating is his weakest point, but he is way above average in every other area. If he gets the puck then his 5v5 numbers will increase along with his plus/minus.

  • @zascorpusa
    @zascorpusa 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Did anyone really expect a different ending. Start by firing Keefe, next Matthews gone for 5 first round picks, Marner gone, JT gone, Nylander traded for top Dman, Sammy gone forever, bunch of losers chokers don’t deserve to wear a Leaf jersey. Reilly gone too

    • @kyledelcotto4550
      @kyledelcotto4550 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Might want hang on to willy and Matthews lol

    • @shanemccarthy3170
      @shanemccarthy3170 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Matthews and Willy aren't the problem Marner and Tavares are. Unfortunately both have no move clauses and are from Toronto. They are stuck with those pussies for another year. Need to fire Shanahan and get a new direction for this team enough of that clown

    • @Neillybob63
      @Neillybob63 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What are you talking about? The Leafs are a perennial loser team, so those aforementioned loser players absolutely deserve to wear the Leafs Jersey, end of story....

  • @worldswatchdog
    @worldswatchdog 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Watch again, Lindholm doesn't make the red line when he shoots. The play is icing.

    • @sempcast
      @sempcast 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      agreed, they let icing go now for set plays for some reason.. since they removed the red line it happens a lot! i noticed the one icing that Swayman played too (the Canadian announcer "Simmer" Craig Simpson i believe correctly said what the ... as well, it didn't lead to anything so we don't talk about it... but def strange call)

    • @worldswatchdog
      @worldswatchdog 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sempcast I am trying to find out why it was waved off.

    • @sempcast
      @sempcast 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@worldswatchdog it’s because Pasta wound up like McDavid in the neutral zone.. typically if no player will reach the puck on the dump-in team they’ll blow it dead as soon as it crosses the icing line… in this case, they could observe Pasta moving in on a set play to retrieve the puck first so they let it go.. make sense?

  • @brucekrygowski1926
    @brucekrygowski1926 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Boston16 goals , Toronto 12 goals 7 games. Boston av 2.287, Toronto av 1.743. Playoff scoring. Anemic production by both. You don’t win much in the NHL with that type of scoring, even against the worst teams.

  • @agi2160
    @agi2160 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Props to Mathews for coming back for game seven with a bruised anus. That's a warrior you build around!

    • @Neillybob63
      @Neillybob63 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey.... just because you carry a purse doesn't mean you suffer from a perennially bruised anus.......

  • @jayboo8495
    @jayboo8495 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    keefe once again completely out coached. how the fuck did the pp go 1 for 21 with zero fucking changes?? the big guys minus nylander have no fucking heart. tavares is simply not a leader. no way he should keep the c.

  • @user-qo1gk2kj3e
    @user-qo1gk2kj3e 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Willingness to work hard every shift....this is what Toronto lacks. Nies stood out for his ability and work ethic...thats it.

  • @doug7170
    @doug7170 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bruins fan here boy i hope they just fire keefe and keep the shanahan plan in place its working out so well.

  • @daniellomas8954
    @daniellomas8954 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So funny how every single Toronto media outlet is trying to hammer home this "gutsy" effort to come back...dude they managed to win 2 games in a row...wow so impressive. I guess Boston got their gutsy effort out of the way early...now they are gonna go get pumped by the Panthers and everyone will realize any "gutsy effort" from either team this series was pointless cuz neither had any chance against Florida.

    • @sempcast
      @sempcast 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i agree, probably Panthers in 5... Sway is the x-factor, and could be this years Bob

  • @wizwaz5529
    @wizwaz5529 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing how none of these experts want to say anything bad about management! Guess they are afraid of losing their boys club pass!

  • @raredreamfootage
    @raredreamfootage 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How was that not icing?

    • @bogeybichon7000
      @bogeybichon7000 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      exactly what I thought....it was close, but Boston D-man shot it on his side of the centre line

    • @BillDalby
      @BillDalby 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is it icing if the Boston player gets to it first

  • @Freshlygrazed
    @Freshlygrazed 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Marner - Gone
    Rielly - Gone
    Sammy - Gone
    Keefe - Gone
    Treliving - Menh?
    Shanahan - Gone
    And fire the entire Leafs Kitchen staff for getting their players sick with food poisoning

  • @harveywalters2285
    @harveywalters2285 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Woll hot , why change game 7
    4 top players, not a team makes
    Coach and management don’t know what doing. Players on ice play the game

  • @TheBandit025Nova
    @TheBandit025Nova 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You know what I want to see this stupid curse die it been 31 years since an Canadian team won the Stanley either Gary Bettman has to allow them to win or get an New GM and flip on which team hasn’t won an Stanley in the 30 years by age of the drought

  • @steventrevis4573
    @steventrevis4573 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One player I agree with getting rid of is marker, to little can’t go to tough areas and just pathetic in the playoffs. Get a top end defender and that’s all I would like to see changed

  • @shawncordeiro5078
    @shawncordeiro5078 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    omg you guys its o/t coulda went 50/50 Im worried about ep40 makin nylander money with beer league heart physicailness & stats