Get better handheld footage with CinePillow (Low Budget CineSaddle Alternative)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2022
- I really wanted a CineSaddle but couldn't justify the price.
Heres my alternative that I've been using for a few months and ABSOLUTELY LOVE!
I've used it on a bunch of client work and also had a few friends try it out. Definitely worth the investment!
Please leave a comment on how you stabilise your footage or any feedback on this video itself, I'd love to improve!
Link to the bag I used:
amzn.asia/d/3AEVPAJ
(not affiliated..... yet!)
Link to the real thing:
www.cinekinetic.com/
Shoutout to Your Story Studios who introduced me to CineSaddle:
/ yourstorystudios
'Dodgy Amazon Alternative' inspired by:
• HOW TO GET BETTER HAND...
SHOT ON:
Atkins Health shots on Fujifilm X-T4 and 16-55mm F2.8
Rest is shot on Sony FX3 (full frame) with 35mm, 85mm, 24-105mm and Sirui anamorphic lenses
Used Dehancer in some shots (see my dehancer video)
Never thought I’d be soo keen to take my pillow out on adventures with me, but I am now!
Great vid! Thanks for the great idea! Excellently presented
Thanks man, really appreciate it 🔥
So good man! I didn't know about the CinePillow but it's such a great idea. And amazing work on the video - that opening sequence was literally me always on the fence about buying a CineSaddle haha
Literally Daniel and I have looked at buying them about 10 times over the last 2 years and it’s always a last minute “naaaah”, then the cycle repeats 😬
@@Isaac_Insoll Legit, I keep telling myself I've got no room in the kit for it but then hate when I'm doing handheld all day 😂
Genius thanks. Was looking at so many things... Ergorig (I'm tall so dont only want to be shoulder mounted for lower perspectives etc), easyrig (big, bulky, complicated, awkward to walk around in tight spaces, bend over etc) and then thankfully came across this. I'm thinking to use something like a football shoulder pad on right shoulder so with this I'll have best of both worlds!
Yep, agree on the shoulder rig not being a good option for tall people and the easy rig being too bulky and limiting even though they are both good options in certain situations. I’m still using the cube pillow a year later so it’s definitely not a gimmick 😀
Very useful video. Can't wait to try it out!
This is a very late response but did you ever end up making one, and if so, how did it go?
Fabulous alternative with a $500 saving - I'll give it a shot - thanks mate.
this is actually amazing lol I never heard of this thing, thanks, will definetly try to recreate it here in Italy haha
Super late response but did you ever get around to making one?
I'm from Gold Coast, Australia and definitely have Italy on the list of places I need to visit one day
Great idea and will make sure to try this myself.
Thanks Daniel 🔥
Great video, very funny + upbeat. Now that Blackmagic pocket cameras will have built-in stabilisation I’m thinking to try shooting with this technique so continuing my search for cinesadle alternatives. Thanks for creating and posting.
This is a very late response but did you ever end up making one, and if so, how did it go?
@@Isaac_Insoll hi not yet but funny I was thinking about it yesterday so prob make one soon . 👍🏿
@@Isaac_Insoll actually I tried it yesterday with a bag and said pillows. Yes it does work well. I love the gimbal steadiness too much though I think 😆..
Love your resourcefulness!
Thanks man. Seeing your IG is what started this whole journey 🔥
@@Isaac_Insoll Glad to be some inspiration ;)
love it man the sakk camera saddle is good just got one today and i think its an oz brand ?
Just dug out my old crumpler bag and was going to look for bean bag refill.
I think pillow works better, during abd especially after shoot... to sleep on. 😅
Awesome stuff
What on camera monitor were you using? Amazing video! Keep it up! Thank you!
My "main" monitor is the SmallHD 702 touch. I love it. Super expensive but totally worth it.
I'm almost 40 years old and wear glasses so I much prefer a 7" over a 5" monitor.
If you are looking for a size down from that I'd suggest the Hollyland M1 as it can be the start of your wireless transmission system
@@Isaac_Insoll Thanks for the response! I see the intro scene is shot with an anamorphic lens? What camera and lens was used? Looks amazing!
Just made one with an old tote bag I cut & sewed together. I used some of those plastic pellets used for filling beanbags and stuff animals, along with a mini pillow form and fill. Works awesome and was about $15 max.
How did it work out for you? Is it helpful or was I all hype?
i have tons of messenger bag lying around and some old pillows or foam from Pelican cases that I don't use
Great video!
Thank you,
If you want to bring all the parts up with you next time you fly up them I’m happy to assemble it for you at a cheap price
do you think a bag dimension of 11.8 x 17.7 would be big enough for a comfortable support?
I’m guessing that is inches? That sounds a little small but I’d honestly just try it and see if it helps. If it works for you then you know you just need a tiny bag for it to get it “strapped”. I’ve heard of other people using pillows without the strap but that sounds less convenient to me
Was this full frame or aps-c, I have mft was just wonder about focal length conversions. So like 16-17 and 42-45 Ish, in mft?
This is full frame on an FX3 so your numbers sound right for MFT :)
Does this also work for tracking shots? For example, when you want to follow somebody who's walking to a different location. Thank you
It’s better than walking without a cinepillow if you are moving slow, but it’s no match for a “following” gimbal shot.
Awesome, congrats man.
I will create here in Brazil.
Thanks man! I’m a tiny channel so it’s still exciting to me whenever I get a comment from someone overseas 🔥
@@Isaac_Insoll But you are in way to be great.
keep with the videos. 🙌
The content is great but the humour made me subscribe 😅👊
Thank you
Saw an old commercial for the original cinesaddle today, thinking it was a joke. It still is to me.
I took my gym bag, put some random poofy flannels in it - done. And they want around 400+ bucks for that thing. Pfegh!
How did it go for you? Did you feel like the footage was more stable? Did it take strain off your arms?
@@Isaac_Insoll
Yes it was and yes it did. And it cost me nothing :D That was my point. I saved a couple of hundred bucks by not buying the product you endorsed ;)
@@wholesome.footage3923 I would say he did the opposite of endorsing the CineSaddle!
Good stuff man! I'll make one with my old pillow's innards
How did it go? Did you actually find it useful?
@@Isaac_Insoll yes, pretty useful, especially sitting down on a chair panning and shooting, you have to tinker with the quality and quantity of cushion though
What were the laundry bag dimensions?
I linked it in the description, it's listed as 22x28" which is roughly 55x70cm in metric, which is clearly the superior measurement unit 😂
What if you used bean bag filler instead of a pillow? Might be lighter but maybe too light?
You could try it if you had a bean bag around but I think the pillow holding its shape is most of what makes this work. You get shape and also “cushioning”
you are like me i need my wife to do the pillows too apparently i dont do it good enough even though im the one sleeping on it haha
I wonder, do you think it would work well with an inflatable pillow?
I feel like it might work if it’s not fully inflated so you still have a bit of “cushion” to it
@@Isaac_Insoll yeah, that makes sense, I waa thinking to figure out a super portable version of it
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The idea is not new, in the days of hand-cams (SONY Z1) we used cases from video cameras! But, a monopod is more practical and more convenient!
I love my monopod and use it all the time. It’s great for stationary talking heads where you want slight movement but I don’t agree that it’s more convenient. If I’m running around a gym or sporting event then this allows me to get more shots from more locations in a shorter period of time in my experience.
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I’m sure half of our “discoveries” aren’t new at all 😀
Does that Charles guy even lift?
Look, I can’t say for sure, I can only say I’ve never seen him lift 😀
Dude- are you hyper caffeinated?
Is this about the super fast talking or some other over-caffeinated behaviour?
@@Isaac_Insoll Please forgive me.
I fear my comment might have been too personal, too critical.
Your mannerism just impressed me as being a little anxious, a little pushed….
Nah, not at all. Appreciate it, it’s something I’m working on 😀
@@Isaac_Insoll Thank you for not getting defensive.
Just remember to breath.
i just took a gym bag that i never used, stuck a pillow in it....voila!
Did you actually test it out? I’m keen to hear if it works well or if I’m full of BS 😂
@@Isaac_Insoll ok, so i never did get to test out the gym bag. with that said, i'm shooting a basketball tournament this weekend, in which i wanted some cam movements/handheld look, but i didn't want a lot of shake. so i dug up an old camera slingbag and gonna give that a shot. but there's still no way in hell i'm paying $200-400 for the bean bags. 😂😂
400 bucks AUD for the real thing isn't exactly the end of the world for a serious operator.
Agreed 100%, and it’s something that would last forever (unlike a camera you are upgrading every few years).
I’m still super happy using this for now though 😀
They look extremely similar and do the same thing. My question is why pay 40x more?
Plus... Add a sewing machine and the proper pillow in the mix and you have the same exact product
Crap... I just bought a gimbal.
Haha, they are both so different, I love both but definitely prefer handheld/cinepillow
@@Isaac_Insoll Me too, Cinesaddle style support is much more natural and organic. Nothing worse than BADLY used gimbals. Robotic pans, shot bobbing up and down when people don't realize they need to walk like a Steadicam operator. Gimbal is far from a silver bullet when used by am amateur.
Yea, 100% that but also in a run and gun “get lots of different looking shots quickly” I can get a lot more different looking shots quickly with a cinepillow handheld than I can with a gimbal
Gut the pillow and fill it full of bean bag beads
I think that's a good idea, I'm currently happy enough with the 'traditional pillow' setup. If i ever switch to the bean bag beads I'll leave another comment :)