@@omarhany4369 Yeah def, a musem. The same goes for gameplay. Boring museum. Forza is at least fun. Get GT if you wanna zoom in on cars, get Forza if you want fun online racing.
@@br4kecheckdTrue Forza is a game that focuses on racing. Channels like Automotive are mostly watching cars in the garage, but thats not what Forza was made for. It is a game to actually drive them on real tracks, have good physics and real race cars instead of fantasy creations. The more tracks and cars will be added to FM, the more GT7 will fall behind in that regard.
Gt 7 is far more realistic. Rain doesn't make turn the track into a mirror, like it does in FM. Not to mention how rain impacts grip is far more realistic in GT vs FM@@sebastiankostelecki8514
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je the car detail is very close? Umm why don't you take another look at the video and compare the tail lights, engine,paint colour, interior details and see if they're close.
In gt7, we used to have, not car on rails, but the suspension module, either didn't show or didn't trully represent the suspension compression correctly. It never felt on rails, just didn't gave enough feedback of what was going on. Since the last update, it is much more transparent what the suspension is doing, so you can play better with the dynamics of it. Great improvement over all!
Forza reminds me of Outrun with those flames constantly shooting from the exhaust. Forza has definitely improved, but GT7, even with its issues, just seems more inviting. It's also more pleasing to the eye. Want I don't understand is GT7 replays looks great, smooth and easy on the eyes at 60fps. But Forza replays can be bothersome to some folks as it looks as if it's only 30fps and it's very noticeable. Even in performance mode it's still looks to be 30fps. How do they let that happen on the so called most powerful gaming console.
Car Model: Forza Environment: Forza Sound: Forza Lighting: GT7 Texture: GT7 Shading: Forza Reflections: GT7 Damage: Forza Customization: Forza Community: GT7 Sim/Handling: neither 😅 SFX: Forza Atmosphere: GT7 Winner: iRacing 😂 The sound engine in Forza is a 10. Listen to the car go under those structures omg. GT7 adding deeper textures and creating a better light engine gives it a better sense of realism visually. It doesn't matter that Forza has better environments or car models. Light can make or break the fantasy and Forza to this day needs to trash that generic light engine. It looks like the GT7 designers want most of the focus on the cars. It looks like Forza designers wants equal attention on everything to look good but ran out of hardware. Which do I prefer? Forza
Forza has way better simulation. The physics are not even close. Gt7 feels too stiff and no it isn't because the camera is locked. It's literally the suspension physics
@@vyasrushi5177 Tell me you don't know about simulation without telling me you don't know about simulation: GT7: zero damage, fake collisions, PS2 level environments, no racing engineer. More arcade fictional tracks than real-life racing tracks. More fictional "vision" cars than racing cars added w every update.
You must be brain dead. How can something be even called a simulator when it doesn't have any damage effects? 😂 The cars are basically the same with the Need for Speed series 😂
@@Fxrt1it just doesn't. As seen with the rear lights, Forzas are actually round. And on the rear carbon defuser, GT has what looks like rivots or bolts holding it on, there are none, go and check. So why add in details that aren't there??? Just to make it look like you have more detail?? Also the carbon fibre body panel on the rear is actually The shiny carbon fibre that is supposed to be. On GT it isn't shiny, and it isn't even carbon fibre. The interior in forza is just better, and I've got a proper run down of the car on my channel. So what were you saying?
@@nihilityjoeyThen you're not looking hard enough. Forza's interior has a lot of errors that GT7's doesn't; the carbon weave on the steering wheel is too pronounced, the texture pattern on the hand grips for the steering wheel are wrong, there's no stitching visible on the alcantara, the bezels around the air vents have the wrong grip pattern around them, the inside of the door looks like a soft material rather than carbon fibre and most shocking and lazy of all, the led shift lights don't come on in the steering wheel. All this is correct on GT7. Not to forget, GT7's interior camera is adjustable, you can look back through the rear window and VR mode while driving is at another level of immersion when it comes to judging corners and spacial awareness. That's being specific. Just giving an opinion and being vague doesn't count as fact.
@@cookedityou do realise you are pointing out trim differences dont you???????? I am talking about detail, resolution look etc. Both cars have different trims, which customers can choose. Forzas looks better. What I pointed are faults. Proper faults. The same as forzas model not having the badge on the rear panel. That's a fault in the forza model.
The 430 in Forza sounds trash just like the rest of the cars in that game. Quite embarrassing when even FM3 had a better sound for the 430 Scuderia than this "built from the ground up" forza title
The latest FM game is one of the worst for me and I was always a true die hard FM fan. I always hated GT but 7 feels like a very special game, it’s a massive shame because FM always ruled. I feel like it’s the effect of game pas, either that or MS just don’t really care anymore.
Given the hideous act of Replacing Employees every few months at Turn 10 just so they could avoid paying benefits, I'd argue its far more the latter. Microsoft has just been making a bunch of terribly impatient, ill advised and poorly thought out decisions across multiple divisions and Forza Motorsport was sadly a victim of this thinking. There's no way your game will ever be a quality product when the same people who started the project aren't even the ones who finished it.
GT7, a cross gen title, superior to a current-gen only title hyped AF ti have been built "from the ground up". Turn 10 has become an embarrassment in a long list of Xbox embarrassments.
bueno las comparaciones que veo, en forza no se si es la temporada pero los niveles se ven mas vivos en base a objetos en el circuitos y personas, etc, en gran turismo los reflejos en el vehiculos son mucho mejores y realistas, y la iluminacion sobre el vehiculo con el destello de luz del son es increible, y tambien los colores se sienten un poco mas vivos, en forza los arboles son mas detallados y cada rama se muestra como un sprite sobre otro lo cual se crea como algo de realidad en cambio los arboles en gran turismo son cartones fijos los cuales los oscurecieron bastante para que no se noten lo que son, no se ven mal pero da entender que estan ahi para salir del paso, y por ultimo el auto en el garage se ve mas realista en forza por los reflejos y y el ambiente que lo rodea, en gran turismo es un espacio vacio y el color del vehiculo sobresalta demasiado
If you race in third person view then you can't be taken seriously as anything other than an arcade racing gamer. It is the most unrealistic view in racing games. This isn't Mario Kart where you need a 3rd person view to avoid bananas. GT7's onboard view is much more realistic and has customizable options, and that's not even counting VR, where it makes the immersion, feeling of elevation, the judging of corners and spacial awareness at a completely other level from Forza. Your priorities are all wrong. Keep trolling!
@@cookedit 3rd person is crucial especially racing online, neither Forza or GT7 is asseto Corsa so if you not utilizing chase cam you sleeping on the competitive advantage. Friends that use cockpit or hood crash all the time lol
@@JohnnieButtersonline - "Friends that use cockpit or hood crash all the time lol." - nope. Actually much more beneficial to use either as you can judge the kerbs better. EDIT: Besides, even the stiff 3rd-person camera offers some benefits when judging a corner.
@@JohnnieButtersonlineYet 3rd person is utterly unrealistic. Never once when I see TH-camrs get great lap times do they use the 3rd person view. You call it an advantage, so basically a crutch to help you overcome the difficulties of approaching the game in a more realistic manner. That's the same as me turning all the assists on while racing and then claiming that's a superior way to race.
@@cookeditGT7 "Pros" like Rory or Super GT play in hood view, thats the same in terms of unrealism as chase cam. Nothing better with that cause no one plays via camera on hood. Now that GT7 made the physics from super simple to a bit more difficult, they already failed. 😂 Forza already had more advanced physics than GT7.
You may judge FM is better than GT7 by visual watching this video, however GT7 is a completely different game compared to FM. I couldn't believe people compare these two games after I have played FM, GT7 just feels so much better for a driving simulator.
Forza focuses on everything tye grass the gorgeous trees the car scenery, ht7 has up scaled cardboard trees same copy paste job around the track, but car models are a thing of beauty 👌🏼 me I'd rather have a bit kf everything then JUST A nice detailed looking car tbh so forza it is
GT7 has accurately placed trees. Forza literally just spams trees around real world tracks with no care to accuracy. 2d or not, the attention to actual real world details is far superior in GT7. Forza even claimed they Lazer scanned but all the bends and kerbs are wrong or stripped right from older non scanned tracks. 3d trees don't make up for the absolute disrespect turn10 has towards actual motorsport fans. No one there is the same from when FM1-4 was developed. They literally lied about this game to everyone.
@@aaronsmith7143 low resolution 2d trees in 2024 being "accurate" is the most pitiful excuse I have seen people use to defend Polyphony's mediocrity in making racing circuits. This is a technique from 20 years ago. ACC, Forza Motorsport, F1, Even Project Cars 2 (2017) all have fully rendered foliage. None of these games have 100% "accurate" trees, and nobody will be comparing tree by tree when you're racing. But GT7 extremely poor environments can be noticed at high speed.
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je imagine relying on foliage and stuff like that, because your "beautiful game" doesnt even have well scanned tracks nor a good sound design or even worse driving that feels slightly better than the horizon games but not even on par of gt.
@FedericoFroebel-dw4je Non scanned tracks and low res car models ripped from 5-10 year old games is quite a bit more pathetic don't you think? Not to mention GT7 has physical based rendering and simulates atmosphere on top of the vehicle physics.
@FedericoFroebel-dw4je Track side landmarks both natural and man made is one of the most important things in motorsport outside of the cars and tarmac. You are really digging a stupid hole you can't crawl out off. Going off real footage, GT8, iracing, acc, and rfactor2 have the best scans and trackside accuracy in the industry. The differences are only with when the scans were done. FM23 literally has not one scanned track. Which is something that has been done in other racers for at least a decade. So what is the excuse there moron?
Gt7 is just so far ahead, before gt was ahead but during the Xbone era there was no quality update to Forza and it's just a skeleton of itself now, gt7 just kept moving up and it just has no comparison, only other racing game I play now is ACC
The exhausts and the contour around the rear lights in GT7 looks so squared (multi-line) rather than perfectly rounded... GT7 has a bit more detail in some other areas of the exterior, but Forza wins in the interior w this car. And Forza also has better circuit detail.
But the circuit is wrong. You are mistaking stupid spammed trees like this isn't a real world track and GT7 has actually accurately represented the track.
@@nicolaslabra2225 god of war and horizon both sold fantastically you couldn’t be more wrong about that. All hell divers proved was that no one likes live service games. PlayStation titles are selling like crazy on steam. GT7 would sell like hotcakes on steam too
Because the video in GT7 was made in time trial mode, where there's no spectators on the stands. In races, the stands are filled with people. In FM, there are spectators all the time.
Strange how stiff and ugly FM interiors are, the oil pressure gauges dont even move while GT7 often has a gauges fully animated. I was hoping Forza would have a good updated interior view for cars but its very lacking...
Forza parece jogo de celular, GT7 é simplesmente o melhor conjunto, não é melhor em tudo, mas no que se propõe a fazer, ganha disparado dos concorrentes!
@@scatered1 Well, it does. Picture quality and look are much better and more realistic in Forza despite a lower rate of micro details. When you look into it though in GT7 there are many more details, but overall looks less realistic or appealing when playing. Not hard to understand.
@federicomeneghini6947 you've got to go get your eyes checked man. GT7 is sharp and clear while FM8 has some sort of odd white filter over absolutely everything I see in every video and in gameplay on the Xbox itself.
Ngl, videos like this tend to be breeding grounds for petty ass fanboy conflicts with very little nuanced comparisons. So much hyperbole in these comments.
Not gonna lie: Proceeds to make a very obvious statement. Good let there be discourse, you're not high and mighty for just being in the middle of the road/sitting on the fence in absolutely everything you like.
@@ZA-7 people very interested in a hobby doing something as simple as arguing over details, y'know in a community and industry where very tiny details can make all the difference it's just so awful.
True however, they gotta make sure that every tree input must be accurate from where it was irl, some Nordschleife drivers use trees as a reference for braking or atleast in any other tracks Although I might sound bias but I do love some vegetations from fictional tracks from GT4, sometimes it gives you a fresh of breathe of air seeing large trees giving shades on the track while the sunlight glares around it
Escenarios, motor, físicas, iluminación, detalles de las pistas, reflejos en vehículos…. Podía seguir más. Forza Motorsport enmudece al mundo y se pasa por la piedra y se limpia el culo con GT7. Lo sabéis todos, son hechos; solo hay que jugar a ambos para saberlo.
Unfortunately, Motosport is slowly dying, the creators of Forza haven't done anything with their game for a long time, instead of fixing the game they add senseless nonsense, which is a pity, and the creators of Gran Turismo always add something cool that Gran Turismo will always be number one, great free cars, and not as in Forzie, great routes for free, beautiful and realistic voices of cars and in my opinion it is a cool driving model, I will always have a fondness for this game, I played it when I was a little boy and I still play it sometimes🎮😏
@@michaeljablonowski5014 In my opinion, there is a small chance that GT7 will be released on PC and why let it remain as it has always been, only the Sony console, it's better not to touch it, have a nice day and greetings from Poland🖐️😎
How? Plenty of evidence to the contrary. They actual level of detail in every car model and road surface is far superior in GT7. Forza literally has old models from older games and it is clearly visible regardless if you play on a series x or PC. If anything, forza is literally a generation behind every sim or simcade that has come out the past 5 years.
@@aaronsmith7143 In GT7 real play,even when you pause the game,or just rotate the car,the LOD will change.Photomode or replay of that game is much much better than the gameplay.Forza literally has the old models, but it still has the best lighting and reflection among all these RAC while GT7,has just an enhanced PS4 last-gen visual
The 3rd person view? Basically the worst, most unrealistic, unusable type of view in racing games. Yes Forza can have that. Same with Forza's better trees. Drive, paint, tune and customize those trees since they are so important to Forza players.
Forza mucho mas realismo , fisicas , escenarios mas realistas , cambio de clima en tiempo real , sonidos mas reales etc . Forza mucho mejor juego en general .
@aaronsmith7143 I have and forza sounds better and more realistic than gt7 no ferrari no matter what kind sounds so soft and dull when you fully on the throttle That's always the one sentence gt fanboys come up with lol "you've never seen this car or heard it in your life" learn to accept criticism you gt fanboys never wanna hear something is doing better than gt
I hate to say it since FM is such a dunpster fire, but I think the car model might be better in Forza. The interior looks nicer, especially the alcantara. But GT7 version is still better in every other way.
That car in specific looks frankly terrible compared not to the one in GT7. But compared to the one in GT6 ☠️ (a game from PlayStation 3, an almost 2 decades old console)
It is a fake review with FM in low quality or Series S console, Forza Motorsport is at least 2 gen ahead of GT7, if you go to compare for a regular player you can notice every detail like marcs we leave in the asphant, ray tracing, and go on, you need to play it to feel it...
Good bait man, its other way around gt7 is like 2 gens a head of fm, Fm has disgusting inaccurate car models, copy paste sounds and terrible sounds overall, who cares about raytracing when their is so many cars that looks like crap in forza, They should have focused more on the cars, Gt7 is crossgen game and even without raytracing its putting fm to shame, Details is much better in gt7 as well, But i hardly supriced with that response coming from forza fanboy
Forza looks good
GranTurismo is magic
I still prefer GT7 over FM8.
@@stefanschuchardt5734 GT7 has good car selection
Forza has magic car selection
Forza Gameplay + GT7 Physics = Perfection
@@andrededecrafi prefer gt7 for both.
@@andrededecraf i prefer FM for both
Theyre both hood but gt7 is basically a digital car museum.
Forza Motorsport 7 was also a digital car museum.
Couldn't describe GT7 better than this, even though I'm a forza guy.
Fm7 is a joke@@purwantiallan5089
@@omarhany4369 Yeah def, a musem. The same goes for gameplay. Boring museum. Forza is at least fun. Get GT if you wanna zoom in on cars, get Forza if you want fun online racing.
@@br4kecheckdTrue Forza is a game that focuses on racing. Channels like Automotive are mostly watching cars in the garage, but thats not what Forza was made for. It is a game to actually drive them on real tracks, have good physics and real race cars instead of fantasy creations. The more tracks and cars will be added to FM, the more GT7 will fall behind in that regard.
Not to mention, the cars in GT7 always look better.
Sure. The weather effect in GT7 was also on another level.
@@purwantiallan5089 weather effects are far better in FM, especially rain.
Gt 7 is far more realistic. Rain doesn't make turn the track into a mirror, like it does in FM. Not to mention how rain impacts grip is far more realistic in GT vs FM@@sebastiankostelecki8514
@@sebastiankostelecki8514no its not, rain is extreamly basic in fm,
@@sebastiankostelecki8514no, only the FM7 has beautiful rain compared to the GT7, FM8 is just a downgrade, It's the same rain as FH2
Those little exhaust flames are corny.
After the update GT7 finally has better suspension mechanics. When the car bends the corner it finally wobbles. Before it would be stiff af
Cars can fly😂😂😂
@@pacomc90 yea if you make an op broken car
Forza looks amazing, I can feel and hear that speed! 🤩
GT7 car model detail is exemplary forza Is a generation or two behind car detail
No
Yes
False. They're very close.
Forza circuits' detail is superb. GT7 is 2 or 3 generations behind in circuits detail
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4jeand this isn't even using the visual mod with RTGI and such... forza looks quite a bit better with them enabled
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je the car detail is very close? Umm why don't you take another look at the video and compare the tail lights, engine,paint colour, interior details and see if they're close.
Les Ferrari dans GT7 ont leurs propres sons moteur , que pendant ce temps la sur Forza les Ferrari ont tous les mêmes sons moteur..
4:50 wow that transition between interior views… GT is on another level
Its the lighting
wish FM had more detail sound profiles for the cars, to me sounds too artificial
Listen to the car as it goes under the structures. I prefer the FM sound engine.
Both Games are Awesome in their own way! Personally I like Forza, Something strange with GT7, it looks like the cars are on train tracks!
Some cars also have light effects outshone the overall car exterior.
Wtf train tracks??? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Forza is for 3rd person view players...
In gt7, we used to have, not car on rails, but the suspension module, either didn't show or didn't trully represent the suspension compression correctly. It never felt on rails, just didn't gave enough feedback of what was going on. Since the last update, it is much more transparent what the suspension is doing, so you can play better with the dynamics of it. Great improvement over all!
Forza reminds me of Outrun with those flames constantly shooting from the exhaust. Forza has definitely improved, but GT7, even with its issues, just seems more inviting. It's also more pleasing to the eye. Want I don't understand is GT7 replays looks great, smooth and easy on the eyes at 60fps. But Forza replays can be bothersome to some folks as it looks as if it's only 30fps and it's very noticeable. Even in performance mode it's still looks to be 30fps. How do they let that happen on the so called most powerful gaming console.
Forza is a very good game now.
No its sadly is not,
Took em long enough 😂
It would be perfect if you add the real-life car after each new scene for the ultimate comparison of the video games.
Real cars wouldn't sound anywhere like here in both these games.
GT7 is on another planet !!!
@@alexsalis8605Yes, while Forza is on Earth, GT7 is located on planet perfect
@@alexsalis8605 yes. In the moon, with it's fake physics. Lol
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4jecry more lmao
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je FM Physiscs outclass GT7 and also the immersion in races. Of course you have got your carmodels that are better in GT7.
GT7 sucks
Car Model: Forza
Environment: Forza
Sound: Forza
Lighting: GT7
Texture: GT7
Shading: Forza
Reflections: GT7
Damage: Forza
Customization: Forza
Community: GT7
Sim/Handling: neither 😅
SFX: Forza
Atmosphere: GT7
Winner: iRacing 😂
The sound engine in Forza is a 10. Listen to the car go under those structures omg.
GT7 adding deeper textures and creating a better light engine gives it a better sense of realism visually.
It doesn't matter that Forza has better environments or car models. Light can make or break the fantasy and Forza to this day needs to trash that generic light engine.
It looks like the GT7 designers want most of the focus on the cars. It looks like Forza designers wants equal attention on everything to look good but ran out of hardware.
Which do I prefer? Forza
GT7- Real Driving Simulator
FM- Real Cartoon Network Simulator
Forza has way better simulation. The physics are not even close. Gt7 feels too stiff and no it isn't because the camera is locked. It's literally the suspension physics
@@vyasrushi5177 Tell me you don't know about simulation without telling me you don't know about simulation:
GT7: zero damage, fake collisions, PS2 level environments, no racing engineer. More arcade fictional tracks than real-life racing tracks. More fictional "vision" cars than racing cars added w every update.
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je exactly.
@@vyasrushi5177 Bro GT7 is the cartoon simulator looks all way too clean and colorful
You must be brain dead. How can something be even called a simulator when it doesn't have any damage effects? 😂 The cars are basically the same with the Need for Speed series 😂
The 430 Scuderia in Gran Turismo 7 sounds a bit quiet but on FORZA MOTORSPORT 8, its sounded quite loud.
It sounds more accurate in gt7, fm just make everything loud and call it a day
GT7 é uma obra de arte, não tem como...
GT needs to tone down the light refraction. Overdone all the time, even blasting off the steering wheel.
@@CT-ud7yk no kidding. when you're racing along other cars, those reflections look like a discoball show Lol
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4jeGT6 even have better light reflections.
Yall are tripping GT7 is polished
It's called bloom effect, not light refraction.
@@NCSiebertdesign nice to see someone who actually knows something for a change, and specifically its the bloom effect from the specular highlight
GT7 looking like FM4, especially how the light bloom is off the car. Forza lost the way.
😂😂😂😂 par contre ton cerveau c'est celui d'un âne
If only GT7 the cars in FM I wouldn’t play FM ever
Like what cars does FM8 not have?
Great vid. You have the most fair comparisons, without manipulating the image to make Forza look worse (as many YTers like AutomotiveBS and Calem do).
It's nice to see someone who sees this with those ytubers.
but forza looks worse, thats fact
@@Fxrt1it just doesn't. As seen with the rear lights, Forzas are actually round. And on the rear carbon defuser, GT has what looks like rivots or bolts holding it on, there are none, go and check. So why add in details that aren't there??? Just to make it look like you have more detail?? Also the carbon fibre body panel on the rear is actually The shiny carbon fibre that is supposed to be. On GT it isn't shiny, and it isn't even carbon fibre. The interior in forza is just better, and I've got a proper run down of the car on my channel. So what were you saying?
@@nihilityjoeyThen you're not looking hard enough. Forza's interior has a lot of errors that GT7's doesn't; the carbon weave on the steering wheel is too pronounced, the texture pattern on the hand grips for the steering wheel are wrong, there's no stitching visible on the alcantara, the bezels around the air vents have the wrong grip pattern around them, the inside of the door looks like a soft material rather than carbon fibre and most shocking and lazy of all, the led shift lights don't come on in the steering wheel. All this is correct on GT7. Not to forget, GT7's interior camera is adjustable, you can look back through the rear window and VR mode while driving is at another level of immersion when it comes to judging corners and spacial awareness. That's being specific. Just giving an opinion and being vague doesn't count as fact.
@@cookedityou do realise you are pointing out trim differences dont you???????? I am talking about detail, resolution look etc. Both cars have different trims, which customers can choose. Forzas looks better. What I pointed are faults. Proper faults. The same as forzas model not having the badge on the rear panel. That's a fault in the forza model.
GT7 Wins by far...
😮 Where the fuck is mario
The 430 in Forza sounds trash just like the rest of the cars in that game. Quite embarrassing when even FM3 had a better sound for the 430 Scuderia than this "built from the ground up" forza title
Forza looks like a unfinished game. I Hope turn 10 keep improving It, even Horizon is years ahead in car detailing,graphics
With the new update 9 for FM the graphics have improved to me its a close one, but The environments I think we can all agree look better in FM
C'est beaucoup plus laid sur FM8
Not with the fictional ferris wheels and flood lights.
forza looks like mobile compare to GT7 haha
@@tadrian-c7i why can't the PS5 add any graphical enhancements?
@@DepresjaToFikcja You must have a really good phone
The latest FM game is one of the worst for me and I was always a true die hard FM fan. I always hated GT but 7 feels like a very special game, it’s a massive shame because FM always ruled. I feel like it’s the effect of game pas, either that or MS just don’t really care anymore.
Given the hideous act of Replacing Employees every few months at Turn 10 just so they could avoid paying benefits, I'd argue its far more the latter. Microsoft has just been making a bunch of terribly impatient, ill advised and poorly thought out decisions across multiple divisions and Forza Motorsport was sadly a victim of this thinking. There's no way your game will ever be a quality product when the same people who started the project aren't even the ones who finished it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 FM régnait 🤣🤣🤣
Gran turismo 100 millions de jeu vendu depuis sa création
Forza 16 millions seulement.
the in-car view on both....when you see the steering wheel being turned the actions you see don't appear to reflect how the car is actually turning 🤔
GT7 ❤❤
Esses reflexos no gt7 são belíssimos!
Só precisa melhorar o ronco dos motores.
GT7, a cross gen title, superior to a current-gen only title hyped AF ti have been built "from the ground up". Turn 10 has become an embarrassment in a long list of Xbox embarrassments.
bueno las comparaciones que veo, en forza no se si es la temporada pero los niveles se ven mas vivos en base a objetos en el circuitos y personas, etc, en gran turismo los reflejos en el vehiculos son mucho mejores y realistas, y la iluminacion sobre el vehiculo con el destello de luz del son es increible, y tambien los colores se sienten un poco mas vivos, en forza los arboles son mas detallados y cada rama se muestra como un sprite sobre otro lo cual se crea como algo de realidad en cambio los arboles en gran turismo son cartones fijos los cuales los oscurecieron bastante para que no se noten lo que son, no se ven mal pero da entender que estan ahi para salir del paso, y por ultimo el auto en el garage se ve mas realista en forza por los reflejos y y el ambiente que lo rodea, en gran turismo es un espacio vacio y el color del vehiculo sobresalta demasiado
GT7 10/10.
motorsport 6/10.
After updates Forza gets a 7
Carmodels: GT7 10/10 and Forza 7/10.... but driving physics... Forza 10/10 and Gt7 7/10
@@michaeljablonowski5014 so there both 8.5????
@@michaeljablonowski5014 Everyone with a brain agrees GT physics are simply far better than forzas
@@Ignacio.Romero Gaystation fanboys agree for sure.
Good
Thanks
That locking chase cam is so Arcady, I’ll never take GT serious because of it. Also the sun reflecting on the car is super distracting
If you race in third person view then you can't be taken seriously as anything other than an arcade racing gamer. It is the most unrealistic view in racing games. This isn't Mario Kart where you need a 3rd person view to avoid bananas. GT7's onboard view is much more realistic and has customizable options, and that's not even counting VR, where it makes the immersion, feeling of elevation, the judging of corners and spacial awareness at a completely other level from Forza.
Your priorities are all wrong. Keep trolling!
@@cookedit 3rd person is crucial especially racing online, neither Forza or GT7 is asseto Corsa so if you not utilizing chase cam you sleeping on the competitive advantage. Friends that use cockpit or hood crash all the time lol
@@JohnnieButtersonline - "Friends that use cockpit or hood crash all the time lol." - nope. Actually much more beneficial to use either as you can judge the kerbs better.
EDIT: Besides, even the stiff 3rd-person camera offers some benefits when judging a corner.
@@JohnnieButtersonlineYet 3rd person is utterly unrealistic. Never once when I see TH-camrs get great lap times do they use the 3rd person view. You call it an advantage, so basically a crutch to help you overcome the difficulties of approaching the game in a more realistic manner. That's the same as me turning all the assists on while racing and then claiming that's a superior way to race.
@@cookeditGT7 "Pros" like Rory or Super GT play in hood view, thats the same in terms of unrealism as chase cam. Nothing better with that cause no one plays via camera on hood. Now that GT7 made the physics from super simple to a bit more difficult, they already failed. 😂 Forza already had more advanced physics than GT7.
You may judge FM is better than GT7 by visual watching this video, however GT7 is a completely different game compared to FM. I couldn't believe people compare these two games after I have played FM, GT7 just feels so much better for a driving simulator.
Forza focuses on everything tye grass the gorgeous trees the car scenery, ht7 has up scaled cardboard trees same copy paste job around the track, but car models are a thing of beauty 👌🏼 me I'd rather have a bit kf everything then JUST A nice detailed looking car tbh so forza it is
GT7 has accurately placed trees. Forza literally just spams trees around real world tracks with no care to accuracy. 2d or not, the attention to actual real world details is far superior in GT7. Forza even claimed they Lazer scanned but all the bends and kerbs are wrong or stripped right from older non scanned tracks. 3d trees don't make up for the absolute disrespect turn10 has towards actual motorsport fans. No one there is the same from when FM1-4 was developed. They literally lied about this game to everyone.
@@aaronsmith7143 low resolution 2d trees in 2024 being "accurate" is the most pitiful excuse I have seen people use to defend Polyphony's mediocrity in making racing circuits. This is a technique from 20 years ago. ACC, Forza Motorsport, F1, Even Project Cars 2 (2017) all have fully rendered foliage. None of these games have 100% "accurate" trees, and nobody will be comparing tree by tree when you're racing. But GT7 extremely poor environments can be noticed at high speed.
@@FedericoFroebel-dw4je imagine relying on foliage and stuff like that, because your "beautiful game" doesnt even have well scanned tracks nor a good sound design or even worse driving that feels slightly better than the horizon games but not even on par of gt.
@FedericoFroebel-dw4je
Non scanned tracks and low res car models ripped from 5-10 year old games is quite a bit more pathetic don't you think? Not to mention GT7 has physical based rendering and simulates atmosphere on top of the vehicle physics.
@FedericoFroebel-dw4je
Track side landmarks both natural and man made is one of the most important things in motorsport outside of the cars and tarmac. You are really digging a stupid hole you can't crawl out off. Going off real footage, GT8, iracing, acc, and rfactor2 have the best scans and trackside accuracy in the industry. The differences are only with when the scans were done. FM23 literally has not one scanned track. Which is something that has been done in other racers for at least a decade. So what is the excuse there moron?
Forza It has better car sound and gear shift sound.
Never, gt7 use real car to make their car sound
a cross gen game destroying a full next gen game.... the car interior in Forza are a generation behind gt7
Gt7 is just so far ahead, before gt was ahead but during the Xbone era there was no quality update to Forza and it's just a skeleton of itself now, gt7 just kept moving up and it just has no comparison, only other racing game I play now is ACC
GT's cars, sky and lighting are better.
GT7 easy….
The exhausts and the contour around the rear lights in GT7 looks so squared (multi-line) rather than perfectly rounded...
GT7 has a bit more detail in some other areas of the exterior, but Forza wins in the interior w this car. And Forza also has better circuit detail.
But the circuit is wrong. You are mistaking stupid spammed trees like this isn't a real world track and GT7 has actually accurately represented the track.
Also. The lights in GT7 are actually modeled in 3d. In forza they are flat sprites.
My man FM interior literally looks like TDU2
Kudos to Turrn10 for how they improve Forza's looking tho. Now it looks really nice.
Gran Turismo would make a shit load of money if it came to PC
Facts they’re sleeping
Not everything has to be on pc.
Playstation games don't really sell well on PC, helldivers is an exception that proves the rule
@@nicolaslabra2225 god of war and horizon both sold fantastically you couldn’t be more wrong about that. All hell divers proved was that no one likes live service games. PlayStation titles are selling like crazy on steam. GT7 would sell like hotcakes on steam too
GT7 Bloom Edition...
its so weird of gt7 to make all their cars sounding like they have dcg gearboxes, no character...
Gt just looks so sterile
Because the video in GT7 was made in time trial mode, where there's no spectators on the stands. In races, the stands are filled with people. In FM, there are spectators all the time.
In trial mode there's no spectators, like in real life
GT7 is impressive in every way, perfect details! Forza is so lacking, it looks like a game from the last generation! Gamepass effect?
Ray tracing is turned off in Forza, look in the side mirrors
GT is the best game for CAR and simulation. Details, sounds, graphism is better than FM.
O GT7 só tem um defeito: Câmera externa. Pra quem joga no controle, isso faz falta!
Strange how stiff and ugly FM interiors are, the oil pressure gauges dont even move while GT7 often has a gauges fully animated. I was hoping Forza would have a good updated interior view for cars but its very lacking...
Forza parece jogo de celular, GT7 é simplesmente o melhor conjunto, não é melhor em tudo, mas no que se propõe a fazer, ganha disparado dos concorrentes!
Forza looks more realistic but less detailed, GT7 looks like a videogame but with a little more details.
What? This comment doesnt make sense
gt7 looks so good at sunset though
@@scatered1 Well, it does. Picture quality and look are much better and more realistic in Forza despite a lower rate of micro details. When you look into it though in GT7 there are many more details, but overall looks less realistic or appealing when playing. Not hard to understand.
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@federicomeneghini6947 you've got to go get your eyes checked man. GT7 is sharp and clear while FM8 has some sort of odd white filter over absolutely everything I see in every video and in gameplay on the Xbox itself.
Seems like your recording is clearer for GT7 . Forza image looks soft.
Ngl, videos like this tend to be breeding grounds for petty ass fanboy conflicts with very little nuanced comparisons. So much hyperbole in these comments.
Not gonna lie: Proceeds to make a very obvious statement.
Good let there be discourse, you're not high and mighty for just being in the middle of the road/sitting on the fence in absolutely everything you like.
I agree, it shows how shhh... The racing community is
@@ZA-7 people very interested in a hobby doing something as simple as arguing over details, y'know in a community and industry where very tiny details can make all the difference it's just so awful.
3very single car in Forza shoot flames.... some how... for some reason..
ray tracing in gt7 is much better
Toycar vs real
Where got car keep on spitting flame…only in arcade
Forza Motorsport Wins! Your videos are crystal clear my video came out grainy and low volume. 🙃
Everything static = Gran Turismo, but for physics and dynamics I'd pick Forza.
la physique de Forza c'est de la gnognotte c'est complètement bidon
I usually get the forza horizon 2 game
Gt7 lightning engine nextgen ...no match for forza
GT7 way batter!!
Parece la comparativa de un iPhone y un Samsung!
Forza's car models are laughable compared even to older gran turismos
Forza looks worse in every single way, exept vegetation, but nobody cares vegetation in racing games. 😂
True however, they gotta make sure that every tree input must be accurate from where it was irl, some Nordschleife drivers use trees as a reference for braking or atleast in any other tracks
Although I might sound bias but I do love some vegetations from fictional tracks from GT4, sometimes it gives you a fresh of breathe of air seeing large trees giving shades on the track while the sunlight glares around it
Not anymore.
I care about vegetation, and thats why I couldnt stand Forza Horizon 5 at launch, the trees looked horrible with their gimmicky antialiasing 😅
GT7 win
Forza!!!
Escenarios, motor, físicas, iluminación, detalles de las pistas, reflejos en vehículos…. Podía seguir más.
Forza Motorsport enmudece al mundo y se pasa por la piedra y se limpia el culo con GT7.
Lo sabéis todos, son hechos; solo hay que jugar a ambos para saberlo.
😂😂😂
@@omaralcaraz3173 Lo sabes..
😂😂😂😂😂fuck off please and open your eyes xbox kid fanboy
Nah i take Gt7, fm8 doesnt looks like a build from the ground up
Same models since fm4, that tells everything
Unfortunately, Motosport is slowly dying, the creators of Forza haven't done anything with their game for a long time, instead of fixing the game they add senseless nonsense, which is a pity, and the creators of Gran Turismo always add something cool that Gran Turismo will always be number one, great free cars, and not as in Forzie, great routes for free, beautiful and realistic voices of cars and in my opinion it is a cool driving model, I will always have a fondness for this game, I played it when I was a little boy and I still play it sometimes🎮😏
If they release GT7 on PC i buy it instantly... but for sure i wont buy a Gaystation as a PC Player for this one game.
@@michaeljablonowski5014 In my opinion, there is a small chance that GT7 will be released on PC and why let it remain as it has always been, only the Sony console, it's better not to touch it, have a nice day and greetings from Poland🖐️😎
@michaeljablonowski5014 tell us how you're 10 without telling us you're 10.
The only advantage of GT7 is interior,In 3rd view,Forza looks a generation ahead
How? Plenty of evidence to the contrary. They actual level of detail in every car model and road surface is far superior in GT7. Forza literally has old models from older games and it is clearly visible regardless if you play on a series x or PC. If anything, forza is literally a generation behind every sim or simcade that has come out the past 5 years.
@@aaronsmith7143 In GT7 real play,even when you pause the game,or just rotate the car,the LOD will change.Photomode or replay of that game is much much better than the gameplay.Forza literally has the old models, but it still has the best lighting and reflection among all these RAC while GT7,has just an enhanced PS4 last-gen visual
The 3rd person view? Basically the worst, most unrealistic, unusable type of view in racing games. Yes Forza can have that. Same with Forza's better trees. Drive, paint, tune and customize those trees since they are so important to Forza players.
@@cookedit Forza still has dashboard view for wheel players while GT7 doesn’t,and GT7 has the worst 3rd view I’ve ever played in racing games
Hahahaha blind boy
Forza mucho mas realismo , fisicas , escenarios mas realistas , cambio de clima en tiempo real , sonidos mas reales etc . Forza mucho mejor juego en general .
brrrrruhhh you know NOTHING about realism
Jajajajaja vale fanboy
Va te jeté fanboy Xbox de pacotille bigleux reste dans ta merde de Forza
Forza looks like a movie, GT looks like... a game
Keyboard😂😂??
I think if Forza cam outside were fixed loke it is in GT7. I would play
Forza > GT
GT7 💙💙👍👍👍
FM8 💩💩👎👎👎
Gt7 clearly looks better but the fans and stuff are non existent. Shame as it adds something
That’s because these videos are filmed in time trial and GT7 doesn’t fill the stands in TT mode. If it were a race, the stands would be full of
If we could get the cars of gt7 with the gameplay of fm7 the world would be complete there i said it for everyone in the back
Pas question d'avoir un gameplay pourri de Forza sur Gran turismo
Forza is better to play from driving dynamics and better scenery rendering
Physique de Forza 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
Physique de GT7 💙💙💙💙💙
Why gears so fast in gt7
Because this car irl do that, otherwise gt7 would not have done it like that
Its so sad to see how bad forza is these days.
Forza sounds and looks better
It's like you've never seen a car or heard this one irl.
@aaronsmith7143 I have and forza sounds better and more realistic than gt7 no ferrari no matter what kind sounds so soft and dull when you fully on the throttle
That's always the one sentence gt fanboys come up with lol "you've never seen this car or heard it in your life" learn to accept criticism you gt fanboys never wanna hear something is doing better than gt
🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫 ferme là
Ce Forza bidon ont les pires sons des moteurs des jeux vidéo
Hahahahaha good joke blind boy
FM2023 = GT7
GT7 starting to mess up car sounds just like this
GT7 Still need room for improvement, not perfect enough
Gt7 sounds better here what drugs are you on, gt7 have better sound design than fm and also far better car models,
FM needed a LOT of improvements because it ain't perfect either. GT7 is great but it can improve whatever it needs.
@@andreasmoller9798 I think he took too much Methamphetamine, that's what happens.
Gt7 wins here easily better sound more details wtf happen to forza,
Fm cars looks like toys campared to gt7
GT7 sound bad.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Forza sounds worse, what does that then say about fm then
Gran Turismo is TRUE NEXT GEN
Forza looks like Trash 🚮 in comparison
GT7 clearly wins on graphics, engine sound and overall detail. Forza was butchered after Forza 4
I hate to say it since FM is such a dunpster fire, but I think the car model might be better in Forza. The interior looks nicer, especially the alcantara. But GT7 version is still better in every other way.
That car in specific looks frankly terrible compared not to the one in GT7.
But compared to the one in GT6 ☠️ (a game from PlayStation 3, an almost 2 decades old console)
forza is a freaking beast in autosim, way better than gt7 in every detail
Sure, salty fanboy.
Par contre ton cerveau n'est pas très détaillé pour sortir un commentaire complètement débile
@@JesappelleFREDO FREEDUROV
@@bookbrain9863 Je confirme ce que j'ai dit ton cerveau est mal détaillé
Forza to kpina 😂😂😂😂
Silly rabbit Forza is for kids!
The stands in GT7 are empty, Forza the best.
Yeah because it's a time trial.
GT7 is also cross gen, while Forza is not
Dit moi fanboy Xbox de pacotille, ils sont où les commissaires de piste sur les abords des circuits sur Forza.
Ces 2 jeux sont aussi nul l’un que l’autre 👎
Forza c'est de la merde comme ton commentaire et Gran turismo c'est génial
Forza is pure shit
Gt7 ❤❤❤❤❤
It is a fake review with FM in low quality or Series S console, Forza Motorsport is at least 2 gen ahead of GT7, if you go to compare for a regular player you can notice every detail like marcs we leave in the asphant, ray tracing, and go on, you need to play it to feel it...
Good bait man, its other way around gt7 is like 2 gens a head of fm,
Fm has disgusting inaccurate car models, copy paste sounds and terrible sounds overall,
who cares about raytracing when their is so many cars that looks like crap in forza,
They should have focused more on the cars,
Gt7 is crossgen game and even without raytracing its putting fm to shame,
Details is much better in gt7 as well,
But i hardly supriced with that response coming from forza fanboy