Yes a vectra video project 😉 I love these cars , ive had four of them. I had the dual mass fly wheel and clutch replaced on my 2.0ltr diesel . Cost me £700 , and had the oil seal rings replaced as if you don't air gets trapped and causes it problems changing gears again .
That’s a lot of work dropping subframe out You can get gearbox out by taking the subframe bolts out on nearside and just loosen the driver side ones and remove bolt on bottom of steering column to gain enough space to remove gearbox especially if there’s 2 of you doing it together Also are you replacing the clutch whilst the gearbox is out. You’d be mad not to
Yes but it's better for him to do it in multiple parts so he can add up some more views and ad revenue for each video. I saw that he puts most of the money back into the channel so I don't mind waiting for multiple videos. He needs the support.
Nice. The Vectra C subframe is a right pain although have done a couple by just dropping the passenger side down saves a lot of time. Also mark up the subframe bolts as they are concentric so take it to be good alignment specialist to get tracking sorted. Also worth doing clutch, CSC and definitely rear main seal. Good luck. Its a solid weekends work!
Nice work James this is going to make a pretty good mini series, I agree with what someone else in the comments said Tom is lucky to have a mate like you to help him out with his car 👍
OMG whats the chances! randomly came across your channel via the Mondeo ST jobs, Looked through your videos, Found this video series.... and ITS MY OLD VECTRA :D I sold this back in 2014 :D
Hi Savage Garage love your vids and content especially Mk3 Ford Mondeo as have purchased one my self recently the Zetec S model. The knocking noise you are hearing sounds like it could be the DMF ( duel mass flywheel ) so maybe something to look at while the gearbox is off. Anyway hope you get to solve the noise issue soon. Keep up the great content and look forward to seeing the next installment 👍
Done this job on the mrs’s 1.9 cdti… her gearbox was grand… the dual mass was knackered… i left the rack in the car… It was a pig of a job even with a ramp..🔨🔨
GM gearboxes have problems with bearings. If your gearbox begins to emit extraneous sounds, you should dismantle it immediately and change all bearings, otherwise you will need to replace the whole gearbox. I had the same problem with my 2008 Astra GTC with Z17DTR engine, replaced bearings and have no problems now 😀
Tom is very lucky to have a friend like you even if it does feed the content of the channel. Think I will stick to working on classics - much simpler !
Great tutorial! How much would you expect to pay at a garage all in for such a job, including new clutch and flywheel - have the same car, and tbh this is the only thing that would write the car off for me (no weird noises just yet) - I have the same car exactly in this video, 138,000 miles, picked it up for £1k last year - been a bargain motor, first VX I have had, underrated solid cars I think.
Just doing the gearbox on my s3 8l subframe down on that rear propshaft disconnected and transferbox out with it being 4 wheel drive all good fun great video as always
Obviously the whining noise just starts when it's under load. Here in Australia our big fords get diff whine after like 380 thousand kilometers (YES you read that right). It's when you go 100 but you drop it back to like 95 and it's barely there, and at 90 it won't happen. And it MAY be because our speed limit is 100 or maybe because of the faster you go the loader it gets.
What you should have done is, taken the driveshaft out and then listened for any noise. That way you could be more accurate using process of elimination.
Are they not spraying salt on the roads in the winter in the UK? My Vectra C is from 2008 and compared to this Vectra C it looks like CRAP from underneath, with rust everywhere 😞
Great content James, I’ve had a few of these vectras and I’d say it’s gearbox bearings, I love the cars but they are shite, oil leak might be oil cooler mine leaked and threw it all over so hard to pinpoint ,and try J&R driveshafts snd transmission components on eBay for driveshafts, I just got two for my Corsa c cdti for under £30 each with Cv joints etc, probably more for vectra but worth a look before buying 2nd hand
Good tip for you on any sized job get some label bags for about a pound and just label anything that comes out that way if the job sits for some time less guessing where things came from
Great video. I look forward to the vectra ones. As I have a vectra c myself. The F17s are very fragile. Mine has the F40 which stronger but very notchy.
Definatly do the clutch whilst at it makes sense great videos by the way i look forward the them when they get uploaded its a lot of work especially off camera editing videos. Keep it up man.
Don't these Vectras have a problem where the flywheel looses true motion, which therefore destroys the clutch and input shaft bearing. I'm sure I've heard of at least two diesel ones this has happened on.
The gearbox has probably leaked oil out. My mum had a zafira and it did that. I filled it up again and it stopped the whinning noise. I tested when jacked up like you did and it didn't make any noise either.
Unbelievable, same thing happened to my Vectra C 1.8 started like Toms gearbox but mine actually failed and oil leaked over the clutch, could just about drive it. When the garage changed it for me they said fifth gear shaft bearing collapsed and it made a noise in every gear. Only makes a noise under load. And the fifth gear shaft is at the top of the gearbox. Common fault and theres a Service Bulletin to replace the gearbox oil for different oil apparently.
Thanks for the great video. I have a sound that is a bit what you described in the beginning so I was like Sh't but my noise is nothing like that LOL. I don't know if anyone answers questions here.. I have searched the whole web but just can't find how to check the oil level on an easytronic gearbox. How hard can it be? It sends me straight to the video's about replacing the whole gearbox. I just want to check if there is enough oil in it.. Anyone know where the control hole or pin is located ?
Hi l have vectra 1.9 diesel is it big job to change gear selector manual gear box.keeps slipping into 3rd gear instead of first gear right pain at times
If you want some more content i have a zafira 1.9cdti with a winey gearbox worn end bearings typical chocolate m32 gearbox can be done with gearbox still on just pull off the end case , nobody has done a repair video for it so could be good for your channel ? , im thinking of tackling it at some point but if you wamt to make a video on it let me know , great vid as usuall keep up the great work.
@@moski322 I dont agree with this. A brand new inner joint can be bought from around £15 and the shaft is already off the car so about ten minutes to swap over
Making alot of work for yourself. No need to remove subframe only need to remove passenger side bolts n loosen drivers side drop it 1 side gearbox will then come out
@@SuperSonicSpeedGuy thanks, my mondeo mk3 is on 133,000 and even after bleeding the clutch 100% it still doesn't fully disengage even if you push the pedal to the floor. It makes getting OUT of gears hard! I'm thinking the fins on the pressure plate have just bent out of shape over time, so they don't pull the clutch apart enough. It's a gearbox off job, so will need to hold the engine up. 👆
@@davidanderson2145 The 1.8s the F17, The 8V 1.9 Diesel the M32, the 16v 1.9 Diesel, 3.0 cdti, 2.0T, 2.8T the F40, the 2.2 petrol F23, the 2.2 Dti and 3.2 V6 the F35.
@@marianmarian1821 posibil, nu am dat jos sa ma uit. eu am avut rugina la puntea spate ( masina din zona Munchen care a stat mult), a trebuit sa o schimb cu totul. Si acum mai nou are si la puntea fata rugina sub aparatoarea de plastic de langa cureaua de accesorii.
I had a cavalier 1.6 many moons ago made a noise of whining under load particularly up hills , yet down hill and jacked up next to no noise from it, it was a main shaft bearing failure, gearbox swap wise move. 👍🏼
Well you should thought of replacing the axles before jumping to conclusion that the gearbox is faulty,what if it was not? and all the sound cause by the axle,as turning it by hand made a noise,so imagine the sound with weight of the car and so on...always think of the simple case scenario not the worst...
Same sound as my m8 vetcra 1.9 tdci sri and that was 100% the same sound and it was the dual mass flywheel dont know if the petrol ones have a dual mass ??
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Gearbox not under load which is why it don't sound as bad. But great vid.
Continuous whiny noise whist driving? That’ll be the missus then! 😆
Yes a vectra video project 😉 I love these cars , ive had four of them. I had the dual mass fly wheel and clutch replaced on my 2.0ltr diesel . Cost me £700 , and had the oil seal rings replaced as if you don't air gets trapped and causes it problems changing gears again .
That’s a lot of work dropping subframe out
You can get gearbox out by taking the subframe bolts out on nearside and just loosen the driver side ones and remove bolt on bottom of steering column to gain enough space to remove gearbox especially if there’s 2 of you doing it together
Also are you replacing the clutch whilst the gearbox is out.
You’d be mad not to
Yeah got to be a better way than taking that subframe out! I hope my clutch lasts as that's one job I could do with out lol
Good content. By the way, there's nothing wrong with a nice long video where you finish it all in one episode :)
Yes but it's better for him to do it in multiple parts so he can add up some more views and ad revenue for each video. I saw that he puts most of the money back into the channel so I don't mind waiting for multiple videos. He needs the support.
Nice. The Vectra C subframe is a right pain although have done a couple by just dropping the passenger side down saves a lot of time. Also mark up the subframe bolts as they are concentric so take it to be good alignment specialist to get tracking sorted. Also worth doing clutch, CSC and definitely rear main seal. Good luck. Its a solid weekends work!
Nice job James , this vec is a good car for your self, I have the same car, z1.8xe GTS
Sort the oil leak out while no subframe is in the way
Nice work James this is going to make a pretty good mini series, I agree with what someone else in the comments said Tom is lucky to have a mate like you to help him out with his car 👍
OMG whats the chances! randomly came across your channel via the Mondeo ST jobs, Looked through your videos, Found this video series.... and ITS MY OLD VECTRA :D
I sold this back in 2014 :D
I got a lot of respect for this channel
It's not the gearbox that's gone, it's the flywheel and pressure plate, had the same issue on mine
Looking forward to part 2 and maybe 3 👍👍👍 keep up the good work , great content
I wouldn’t have bothered replacing gearbox on that lol it’s got a major oil leak too by the looks of the sump ✌️
Hi Savage Garage love your vids and content especially Mk3 Ford Mondeo as have purchased one my self recently the Zetec S model. The knocking noise you are hearing sounds like it could be the DMF ( duel mass flywheel ) so maybe something to look at while the gearbox is off. Anyway hope you get to solve the noise issue soon. Keep up the great content and look forward to seeing the next installment 👍
Done this job on the mrs’s 1.9 cdti… her gearbox was grand… the dual mass was knackered… i left the rack in the car…
It was a pig of a job even with a ramp..🔨🔨
I did this couple of years ago. Fitted a recon box and still going strong 💪🏻
GM gearboxes have problems with bearings. If your gearbox begins to emit extraneous sounds, you should dismantle it immediately and change all bearings, otherwise you will need to replace the whole gearbox. I had the same problem with my 2008 Astra GTC with Z17DTR engine, replaced bearings and have no problems now 😀
Lovely Jubbly, looks a very clean Vectra, shame about the mechanicals.
Tom is very lucky to have a friend like you even if it does feed the content of the channel. Think I will stick to working on classics - much simpler !
This series will be one of your best.
Great tutorial! How much would you expect to pay at a garage all in for such a job, including new clutch and flywheel - have the same car, and tbh this is the only thing that would write the car off for me (no weird noises just yet) - I have the same car exactly in this video, 138,000 miles, picked it up for £1k last year - been a bargain motor, first VX I have had, underrated solid cars I think.
1:10 - 1:17 what i imagine having a girlfriend is like 😂
That is fucking funny 👍
😂😂😂😂😂
@@alexascs2679 he's right tho had this noise 10years then worked out its coming from the wife
Just doing the gearbox on my s3 8l subframe down on that rear propshaft disconnected and transferbox out with it being 4 wheel drive all good fun great video as always
nice work guys, keep them videos running
Good video but PLEASE stop calling driveshafts axles! You must watch american youtubers
Tie rod instead of track rods too
Sway bars instead of anti roll bar's
everyones using american lingo as of late. "part out" no. breaking.. etc
How do you call it?
@@grazianolaudisio3644 by phone
Did you check for leaks and check the oil level prior to ripping it apart? I always start with the cheapest option and go from there 😎
Northerner 137 yep plenty of fluid
love your vids but I'm not convinced gearbox is the issue hope I'm wrong , drive shaft sound knackered to me also, atb Steve
I agree, cheapest fix first.
Driveshaft is knocking but gearbox was whining
@@TheSavageGarage was whining ? I take it it's fixed then with a new gearbox, nice one.... keep up the good work..
Considering you're doing on the floor on the driveway, done well there 👍
Layshaft bearing? Had a laguna with same noise, really projected under load. Enjoy the videos, Keep it up 👍
Never liked that shape ,preferred the earlier version I had a gsi in silver lovely motor ,good vid as always mate 👍
Obviously the whining noise just starts when it's under load. Here in Australia our big fords get diff whine after like 380 thousand kilometers (YES you read that right). It's when you go 100 but you drop it back to like 95 and it's barely there, and at 90 it won't happen. And it MAY be because our speed limit is 100 or maybe because of the faster you go the loader it gets.
Does sound like the driveshaft . Had a couple of Vectras in my time and would recommend changing the clutch as mentioned.
What you should have done is, taken the driveshaft out and then listened for any noise. That way you could be more accurate using process of elimination.
Make your mind up axle or driveshaft but it is a drive shaft.
Why does it matter lmao
@@oliverloseby4966 don't really matter but he changes his mind about what he calls them. Just be good to stick to one.
Are they not spraying salt on the roads in the winter in the UK? My Vectra C is from 2008 and compared to this Vectra C it looks like CRAP from underneath, with rust everywhere 😞
Great video James! Just a quick tip, leaving a car battery on concrete can drain it and decrease the life of the battery itself
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That's a new one lol
Do a video where you split the box
agreed
You would need a hydraulic press for changing the bearings.
Cars don't have axles...
That's my OCD coming out again.
I did mine - I just pulled the engine out completely. All done in a day.
Great content James, I’ve had a few of these vectras and I’d say it’s gearbox bearings, I love the cars but they are shite, oil leak might be oil cooler mine leaked and threw it all over so hard to pinpoint ,and try J&R driveshafts snd transmission components on eBay for driveshafts, I just got two for my Corsa c cdti for under £30 each with Cv joints etc, probably more for vectra but worth a look before buying 2nd hand
Would consider renting out a shed would be alot handier would be nice for winter etc etc
I'm sure his neighbor's would chip in for that 🤣
Good tip for you on any sized job get some label bags for about a pound and just label anything that comes out that way if the job sits for some time less guessing where things came from
Great vid once again, always enjoy your content 😊 interesting for me as I'm currently looking to buy one of these cars
Great video. I look forward to the vectra ones. As I have a vectra c myself. The F17s are very fragile. Mine has the F40 which stronger but very notchy.
Definatly do the clutch whilst at it makes sense great videos by the way i look forward the them when they get uploaded its a lot of work especially off camera editing videos. Keep it up man.
Don't these Vectras have a problem where the flywheel looses true motion, which therefore destroys the clutch and input shaft bearing. I'm sure I've heard of at least two diesel ones this has happened on.
Since you will have a gearbox out, why not replace a clutch as well? Kill 3 birds with one stone
And give that rusty sub frame a paint job... 4 birds.
Well for a car that’s going to be sold it’s not going to bring up the extra expense so fuck the new owner I guess
good point
Great vid as usuall 😁, you Should defiantly do the clutch whilst you have it out
Sounds very much like a DMF noise James. The gearbox may be fine.
retrorestore Hello Mart
There’s no DMF on the 1.8 vvti engine, just solid flywheel, I changed one last year, bastard of a job
The gearbox has probably leaked oil out. My mum had a zafira and it did that. I filled it up again and it stopped the whinning noise. I tested when jacked up like you did and it didn't make any noise either.
It's probably the input shaft bearing which has gone bad... It's only a £10 part but a pain to replace since you have to disassemble the whole gearbox
Que transmisión usaste para ese vectra? Hay que re programar la computadora para hacer esto?
Unbelievable, same thing happened to my Vectra C 1.8 started like Toms gearbox but mine actually failed and oil leaked over the clutch, could just about drive it.
When the garage changed it for me they said fifth gear shaft bearing collapsed and it made a noise in every gear. Only makes a noise under load. And the fifth gear shaft is at the top of the gearbox. Common fault and theres a Service Bulletin to replace the gearbox oil for different oil apparently.
think yor issue there wasnt the gearbox bet if you changed the driveshaft that noise will be gone
paul bingham no
The savage garage.. did you even have to take out the bolts from the starter to remove the gear box?
This gearboxes are common to fail
Thanks for the great video. I have a sound that is a bit what you described in the beginning so I was like Sh't but my noise is nothing like that LOL. I don't know if anyone answers questions here.. I have searched the whole web but just can't find how to check the oil level on an easytronic gearbox. How hard can it be? It sends me straight to the video's about replacing the whole gearbox. I just want to check if there is enough oil in it.. Anyone know where the control hole or pin is located ?
Thanks I was looking forward to seeing a vectra video
how did you move ford fiesta out of way to get vectra on drive as you got lot of cars good video
What size are the gearbox mounting bolts at the back underneath the oil filter?
Great video James keep it up. Am I being silly but should the car stall when your going into gear one and letting clutch out?
Wheels are off the ground, so no.
Thrust bearing ?
Hi l have vectra 1.9 diesel is it big job to change gear selector manual gear box.keeps slipping into 3rd gear instead of first gear right pain at times
Don't forget to replacement gearbox oil seal rings
If you want some more content i have a zafira 1.9cdti with a winey gearbox worn end bearings typical chocolate m32 gearbox can be done with gearbox still on just pull off the end case , nobody has done a repair video for it so could be good for your channel ? , im thinking of tackling it at some point but if you wamt to make a video on it let me know , great vid as usuall keep up the great work.
Buy a new inner joint rather than a second hand drive shaft
It’s easier and cheaper to replace with a used one
@@moski322 I dont agree with this. A brand new inner joint can be bought from around £15 and the shaft is already off the car so about ten minutes to swap over
@@Alanw74 That will be utter crap for £15
@@davidhaygarth4763 hence the word from. Everyone has a budget. Still better than second hand
Back to your best! Thanks
Gearbox not making the noise when jacked up because it's not under load.👌🤦♂️
Making alot of work for yourself. No need to remove subframe only need to remove passenger side bolts n loosen drivers side drop it 1 side gearbox will then come out
You don't need to remove the drive shafts, just pull out the diff and push them out the way
Y 7 dislikes the lads doing good well done mate
I have vectra c 1.8 aswell and just wondering or 6 speed gearbox would fit from insignia z18xer engine to vectra z18xer engine?
is a M32 Gearbox? Sounds like a failure of the 3 endcase gearbox bearings, it´s a common failure, that´s happend in mi Vectra CDTI with 314.000km
For supporting the engine, would a block of wood under the sump and a floor jack work?
Yeah, that'd be fine. That's how i did the clutch on my car
@@SuperSonicSpeedGuy thanks, my mondeo mk3 is on 133,000 and even after bleeding the clutch 100% it still doesn't fully disengage even if you push the pedal to the floor.
It makes getting OUT of gears hard!
I'm thinking the fins on the pressure plate have just bent out of shape over time, so they don't pull the clutch apart enough.
It's a gearbox off job, so will need to hold the engine up. 👆
Sounds like thrust bearing 👍
Very very common vectra fault, carried on into insignia as well.
Would this need to be done to fit a new clutch kit on a 2008 vectra estate 1.9cdti?
Did you jack front of car up on subframe?
M32 box no doubt, common for all sorts of problems!
you can clearly see, that its a 5-speed gearbox. 5:43
the m32 is a 6-speed. There was a Version called m30 but its not found on the Vectra
Its a F17!
@@THExPsyGamerx Ah sorry my mistake!
My car did this too and was the bearings on the f17 box
M32 was the chocolate box never heard of a m17 in a vectra
Both the Z18XE and Z18XER 1.8s had the F17.
Dash Cam Das thought the Vectras only had 32 box and the 40. Every days a school day 👍🏼
@@davidanderson2145 The 1.8s the F17, The 8V 1.9 Diesel the M32, the 16v 1.9 Diesel, 3.0 cdti, 2.0T, 2.8T the F40, the 2.2 petrol F23, the 2.2 Dti and 3.2 V6 the F35.
@@DasArab were any of them compatible between models?
You can get away with just dropping the n/s of the subframe, I had to replace my 52 plate vec c 10 years ago.
Good work m8
Tried to following you on Instagram but your page is private. Sent you a request weeks ago mate ?
Hi, my name is Marian, I'm from Romania, please tell me if Opel Vectra C rusts with time underneath or not ?! Thanks!
Clar
@@BunikuXXL rugineste? Am vazut ca si pragurile au niste aparatori din plastic, acolo rugineste?
@@marianmarian1821 posibil, nu am dat jos sa ma uit. eu am avut rugina la puntea spate ( masina din zona Munchen care a stat mult), a trebuit sa o schimb cu totul. Si acum mai nou are si la puntea fata rugina sub aparatoarea de plastic de langa cureaua de accesorii.
I had a cavalier 1.6 many moons ago made a noise of whining under load particularly up hills , yet down hill and jacked up next to no noise from it, it was a main shaft bearing failure, gearbox swap wise move. 👍🏼
Had this where it sounded like a gearbox but was a wheel bearing
F17 type gearbox?
Shit myself when the bricks and pallet came out jammer !! 😰
How many km or miles has this car?
What Vectra model is?
But when driving drive shaft knocking 👍
Im good a sorting boxes if u want too do a vid on gearbox rebuild
Agree, could make a decent amount by selling it on with uprated bearings
Well you should thought of replacing the axles before jumping to conclusion that the gearbox is faulty,what if it was not? and all the sound cause by the axle,as turning it by hand made a noise,so imagine the sound with weight of the car and so on...always think of the simple case scenario not the worst...
Most likely bottom end bearings on the gearbox if it’s an M32 gearbox, vectras and zafira suffer this problem massively M32 is a terrible gearbox
Actually the OpelVectra that I have , when its running its looks like the engine is not turn on, so its not good so much noise
Wow that clunk was awful
I’ve never heard anything like that before .
It might not be the gear box then so why replace it
Same sound as my m8 vetcra 1.9 tdci sri and that was 100% the same sound and it was the dual mass flywheel dont know if the petrol ones have a dual mass ??
I know father bishop brennon gives good mass
Ok
project Corsa vxr
sound ?
Are the light xenon or projectors? Thanks
Those are just halogens behind eliptoid lenses