Hello all! Serves me right for skipping using my pattern-checker tool, coz we have our first error in ages! R15 should read 3[inc], 5sc, 4[dec], 6sc. If you've started the pattern already and gotten past R15 without the correction, it should make little to no difference on your finished snake, so don't worry about frogging.
Thank goodness for this comment 😓 I got it “right” according to the pattern in the video the first time, but I saw the comment juuuust in time to pull the row and start again.
You are helping me learn to make my own patterns more than absolute anyone else ever has. I’m so glad I found you and that you are not greedy with your knowledge!!
I have been crocheting for about 20 years and I always hated the large holes that came from decreasing. Today, you've solved that problem for me! Thank you so much, I've always gone through both loops of both stitches being decreased and it looked so ugly, but now I have your technique and comparing the snakes head to all of my other amigarumi, this looks so neat and professional!
I'm a beginner crocheter (started 3 or 4 days ago) and I've only just wrapped my head around the magic circle 😵 I'll come back to this when I'm more experienced or when I've finished my current project :')
I wish I could share a picture of how cute this snake turned out using this tutorial! My granddaughter adores it. Thank you for your time and effort to share with us 🥰
I don't have enough yarn to do her, but I can't wait!! It's the first time I do something this big, I usually do little amigurumis but this one is soooo cute. Thank you for sharing your amazing patterns !!
I thought this would be easy peizy but I was wrong. It takes a lot of concentration and counting. Whoever wrote this pattern was a genius. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for this! I got a small skein of a spotted green acrylic yarn in a mystery box & had been struggling to think of what I could use it for. It turned out to be the perfect size for this little buddy!
I would have never thought I could make such awesome crochet animal patterns before I found Complicated knots you are Amazing your teaching style is so relaxed and easy to follow I will be making more patterns in the future.❤
Love your videos! Everytime I watch them I come out of it thinking, I could that. That despite being a complete beginner to crochet I could make something like this. Your directions are awesome and I think that, even through the haze of frustration that is learning a new craft, they actually get into my brain! Which is great!😊
You are so talented! I have made my snake in Cygnet Boho Sprit yarn and the pearlescent gradients really make it pop. I love this patern so much and it worked really well.
For every round do you slip stick into the first stitch also I’ve tried most of your patterns and they don’t turn out right like with the pumpkin turtle for the front loops that are on the outside of the peace they are very far away from each other i know their going to fall i little bit diagram, but mine or really diagonal and another example is with the baby snake I’ve tried it three or four times now and the neck also on the side of the head can you help me understand why I can’t get it right i have always wanted to actually do the baby snake and i like how you show the pattern on screen your my favorite crochet artist and I also can’t wait to see a new video every Thursday
I work in a continuous spiral, so no I don't slipstitch+chain at the end of each round. Because of this, my designs tend to include adjustments for the "drift" that happens when working this way, which might account for the stitch issue you are having. The only other thingl I can recommend is counting at the end of each row to check your stitch count!
I just thought of something, when you get the chest part done you got a good start on making a seahorse. just got to think on the away to go up the make the tail.
I made a couple of mistakes (I was always missing a stitch or two and couldn't find out why), but the snake looks lovely! I started crocheting last week, so this is still a win for me! Thank you for this lovely pattern!
Thank you for this! I will be making a few to donate to our Mortal Angels group to gift to children at Christmas time. I must also comment on the way you hold your yarn for tension. Thank you! I seriously thought I was the only one to guide my yarn that way! Everyone else does the double/triple wrap around their finger and I could never grasp that method haha. Your method is exactly like mine.
If I wanted to lengthen the snake (I'm doing a temperature blanket type situation - except writing process rather than temperature and I'll need closer to 200-300 rows) -- could I just repeat the coils that all have the 22 stitch count and save the final coil/tail for the last bit? Or would that end up being wonky?
With your increases do you do the first sc through the front loop only and the second sc through both loops? It looks like that and ive never seen that before. Happy to learn any benefits to it. Really enjoying your videos, im a recent subscriber after TH-cam kept insisting I watch 'Will it crochet?' 😊
i am in love with your patterns 😩 would you consider making a stag beetle pattern? they're my fav animal but i'm new to crochet and can't find anyone whos made one 😭
I would love to do thus but because if my love of ball pythons and other chunky snakes I would love to make this snake chunky! What would be required to thicken them up a bit at the body?
The shrug I'm wearing is the "granny hexagon cardigan", and there are so many patterns all over the internet for it. Super easy to make, and comes out really cozy!
hi, i recently found your channel. these amigurmi's are amazing. I started a jacket/cardigan project but never continued it and now i wanna do amigurumi or however it's spelled. I want to make my own but i know absolutely nothing about making them. i know the terms like sc, and dec, and inc, etc. Can you do a tutorial if you haven't already on making diy arigurumi
I have never seen an increase how you do it ... front loop for first stitch and both loops for second stitch. Does this make a neater increase or have I just been doing it wrong all these years by doing both stitches in both loops? Love your videos, only found you a day ago 😊
I'd LOVE if you could make a larger version of the christmas frog! I also had a question - when you increase, you make the first stitch in flo before doing the second in both loops; i've never seen it done this way! Is there a reason or is it just a thing you do?
That is called an invisible increase! It makes it so you don't get those little increase holes on your finished pieces. I find it also helps me count :)
I can't do your pattern the way you have it shown,,,do to my trouble with tremors, so I've had to go up to a 6mm hook and double strands....I hope it turns out ok,
how do u get the bigger safety eyes to go through the face? ive never had an issue with smaller eyes but i can never get any of the bigger ones in and i don't want to avoid it again for my snake, i use the same yarn and hook size and single crochet, if i crocheted any looser there would be noticeable gaps, and ive tryed pulling at the hole but i can't get it to fit would u know how to fix this?
You can try working a larger hook through the stitches to open it up a little more. I don't have this issue often, but when I do, I use a 4mm hook and poke it through, then a 5mm, then a 5.5mm, etc until it fits. Silver lining: your tension must be incredible to cause consistent problems!
i have been doing this snake for the last 4-5 hours and dame you were not kidding about counting your stitches cozz it can affekt the curv of the tail well lets just say my brock his back im not going to fix it its my first time making anything like this my brain is mush and yea i just cant be botherd XDD
Nope! It was when I was doing the maths for the chest curve, I think I slightly rotated where the incs and decreases fell, and then reinforced it in subsequent rows. Not very interesting, but basically it came down to human error :)
Is row 15 correct? It looks to me like there's 1 stitch missing. 3 + 5 + (2*4) + 5 = 21 Also since I'm here, if I ever encounter a pattern that has a stitch missing (and can't contact the author), should I: add an sc at the end or just roll with it?
Well spotted! R15 should be 3[inc], 5sc, 4[dec], 6sc. I'll add a pinned comment now. As for the other thing, I'll be the first to tell you crochet is VERY forgiving, so if you can't reach the designer, either approach would likely work. I would just keep an eye on any elements that may need to line up later in the piece, make sure it's looking right. With my patterns I would default to making them as-written, as I've likely made it at least once with whatever typo/error is there.
Hi, ma'am!!! Would love ❤ to make this snake 🐍 7 feet long. Which yarn should I 🤔 use and how much will I require??? Please 🙏🏻 guide me. With love 😍 from India 🇮🇳.
I've looked, and this specific colourway doesn't seem to be available anymore. The brand is 4Seasons Printed Marvel. If you are looking for this kind of "speckled"/confetti type multi-colour yarn though, you can check out a strand of your yarn - if each colour takes 2cm-5cm before changing to the next, you'll get speckles that will pool in different ways (like the stripes on my snake today)
@@ComplicatedKnots Spotlight has changed suppliers and this one is no longer a lovely pastel. Many colours have changed drastically, peacock springs to mind😢
I'm very confused... 😅 I've noticed that you decrease differently than I know it. I go into the next two stitches so that I have three loops on my hook, yarn over and pull through all three of them. Is this wrong or are both ways okay?
What about making a liepard, jangmo- o, noibat, tentacruel, or a drowzee Pokémon ? Or a bigger frilled neck lizard, enchidna, cockatoo, owl, skeleton or just the skull, pangolin ,dead head hawk moth, or crocodile? I think any of these would be awesome.
Hello, new here. Do you have a tutorial that explains all the abbreviations? Like what is inc and how do you do it? I’m newish to crocheting and would love to do this but I can’t follow because you are going fast and I can’t read the instructions . I know sc is single stitch dc is double crochet and that’s about it LOL
I've never done a video on the basics, as there are so many out there and my patterns tend to be a bit...complicated? However if you check the video description, I always include a glossary telling you what each abbreviation is and a reminder on how to do the stitch :)
Okay, so it means two repeats of sc, inc. You repeat the pattern that is inside the brackets the number of times that is on the outside of the bracket.
When I crochet row 15 I am only doing 20 stitches not 21. So I am left with a remaining stitch. I watched you and you just kept going irregardless of that stitch. Should the pattern be adjusted?
OMG I love all of your videos!! It would be cool if you could make Kurama from Naruto(he is a 9 tailed fox) I know it might be hard but I would like to see that in a future video, so I’ll keep my fingers crossed 🤞
I love your patterns they’re so cute. Have you ever considered making a lion, peacock, or a kangaroo with an optional joey? Also is there a pattern for your large owl?
I'll add those three to the list! There is no pattern for the owls, I didn't write them down. I'll possibly recreate the 10hour one at some point to share though.
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Hello all! Serves me right for skipping using my pattern-checker tool, coz we have our first error in ages!
R15 should read 3[inc], 5sc, 4[dec], 6sc. If you've started the pattern already and gotten past R15 without the correction, it should make little to no difference on your finished snake, so don't worry about frogging.
that row gave me such a headache, i kept restarting that row thinking i did something wrong lol
Thank goodness for this comment 😓 I got it “right” according to the pattern in the video the first time, but I saw the comment juuuust in time to pull the row and start again.
Ç SC s❤❤❤ 9:24
Thank you. I’ve been rechecking the video over and over lol.
weird question, but where do you get your safety eyes, I cant find any really big ones like you have 😞
You are helping me learn to make my own patterns more than absolute anyone else ever has. I’m so glad I found you and that you are not greedy with your knowledge!!
Im just glad anyone is interested enough to listen 😆
I have been crocheting for about 20 years and I always hated the large holes that came from decreasing. Today, you've solved that problem for me! Thank you so much, I've always gone through both loops of both stitches being decreased and it looked so ugly, but now I have your technique and comparing the snakes head to all of my other amigarumi, this looks so neat and professional!
I'm a beginner crocheter (started 3 or 4 days ago) and I've only just wrapped my head around the magic circle 😵 I'll come back to this when I'm more experienced or when I've finished my current project :')
Yeah this probably isn't the best one to start out with, it's more difficult than other patterns
@@ImNotActuallySonicTheHedgehog I'm just making it now, i found a really pretty color of yarn and I'm so excited to finish it
aw that sounds cute @@ImNotActuallySonicTheHedgehog
Awesome!! Now, make it even BIGGER!! 🐍
That colorway worked out beautifully and truly looks like scales.
I have been waiting for weeks to do this snake :D its my favorite animal! You are so talented, thanks for sharing your patterns with us
Better late than never :) glad you like him!
I LOVE your channel! Your always so upbeat and easy to listen to and beat of all, easy to follow.
I just finished my snake! I really love it! Thanks for the cute pattern!!!
I wish I could share a picture of how cute this snake turned out using this tutorial! My granddaughter adores it. Thank you for your time and effort to share with us 🥰
I don't have enough yarn to do her, but I can't wait!! It's the first time I do something this big, I usually do little amigurumis but this one is soooo cute. Thank you for sharing your amazing patterns !!
I thought this would be easy peizy but I was wrong. It takes a lot of concentration and counting. Whoever wrote this pattern was a genius. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much : ) your videos are THE thing I look forward to during the week
Hands down a phenomenal pattern. I enjoyed ever twist and turn. Kudos to your superior skills and thanks for sharing
Thank you so much for this! I got a small skein of a spotted green acrylic yarn in a mystery box & had been struggling to think of what I could use it for. It turned out to be the perfect size for this little buddy!
I would have never thought I could make such awesome crochet animal patterns before I found Complicated knots you are Amazing your teaching style is so relaxed and easy to follow I will be making more patterns in the future.❤
Yes iv been waiting for the big snake! 🐍
Sorry bout the hold up! :)
ITS SO CUTE!!!
I would love to see a larger version of the ringtail possum too, I think that would be really adorable
This is beautiful, love the yarn.
I am just excited to have finally found a use for it :)
You are an amazing designer! I’m really enjoying making your patterns! Thank you for sharing your talent!😁❤️🧶
The pattern is amazing and that yarn choice is perfection!
Love your videos! Everytime I watch them I come out of it thinking, I could that. That despite being a complete beginner to crochet I could make something like this. Your directions are awesome and I think that, even through the haze of frustration that is learning a new craft, they actually get into my brain! Which is great!😊
This yarn is sooooo beautiful!!
note to self: completed row 38 21:27
It's been 5 days since I started learning crochet. Today, I finally finished the head for the second time.
I just came across your channel. I saw your slug first Ive instantly fell in love with your channel. you have such easy to follow video.
Making this with a bulky blanket yarn and I SEVERELY underestimated the amount of yarn and stuffing it would take lol this thing is huge!!!
I love that particular yarn, good old Seasons yarn. Although all my variegated yarn makes Jellyfish and one of the fidget slugs 🙂
Oh yess! So Cool looking with your yarn!💙💙💙
You are so talented! I have made my snake in Cygnet Boho Sprit yarn and the pearlescent gradients really make it pop. I love this patern so much and it worked really well.
i sewed on button eyes instead and it turned out super cute :)
I plan on making this snake with bulky yarn for my mom to make a real big boi and I am so excited to try it out
This is adorable!
I am so excited! I have a peppermint snake to make now!
Like a candy cane? 🍬
@@ComplicatedKnots Yes exactly!
that sounds amaze-balls! hope you post a pic in the Discord
@@missykim510 I am not in the discord I don't think. But I can try uploading it to it!
I made this and ur rat pattern with flutterby yarn and its so cute 🤭🤭
I love this!
making this for my partners birthday :3
I can make a snake Crowley now! Thank you!
Brilliant 😊
For every round do you slip stick into the first stitch also I’ve tried most of your patterns and they don’t turn out right like with the pumpkin turtle for the front loops that are on the outside of the peace they are very far away from each other i know their going to fall i little bit diagram, but mine or really diagonal and another example is with the baby snake I’ve tried it three or four times now and the neck also on the side of the head can you help me understand why I can’t get it right i have always wanted to actually do the baby snake and i like how you show the pattern on screen your my favorite crochet artist and I also can’t wait to see a new video every Thursday
I work in a continuous spiral, so no I don't slipstitch+chain at the end of each round. Because of this, my designs tend to include adjustments for the "drift" that happens when working this way, which might account for the stitch issue you are having.
The only other thingl I can recommend is counting at the end of each row to check your stitch count!
I just thought of something, when you get the chest part done you got a good start on making a seahorse. just got to think on the away to go up the make the tail.
I made a couple of mistakes (I was always missing a stitch or two and couldn't find out why), but the snake looks lovely! I started crocheting last week, so this is still a win for me! Thank you for this lovely pattern!
Thank you for this! I will be making a few to donate to our Mortal Angels group to gift to children at Christmas time. I must also comment on the way you hold your yarn for tension. Thank you! I seriously thought I was the only one to guide my yarn that way! Everyone else does the double/triple wrap around their finger and I could never grasp that method haha. Your method is exactly like mine.
If I wanted to lengthen the snake (I'm doing a temperature blanket type situation - except writing process rather than temperature and I'll need closer to 200-300 rows) -- could I just repeat the coils that all have the 22 stitch count and save the final coil/tail for the last bit? Or would that end up being wonky?
I recently made this, and it was my first Amigurumi piece that was full sized! I made him in rainbow, and I think I will name him Kaa or Simmons :D
I keep getting to the end of crocheting the head and mine looks so wonky compared to yours! I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong
Mine head is twisting too. I’ve re-started so many times😞
I have restarted row 6 4 times now. Not coming up with 20 stitches. What am I doing wrong!
I would love to see you do a Gila monster! Such a cool animal that I think would make for an interesting pattern I’ve never seen done before.
Ill have to look that one up, thanks!
Id love to see you make the traditional 'grey alien' both a small version and larger version. Maybe in a glow-in-the-dark yarn?
Saving this pattern to use as eggs "basket"
I'm very new to this Are you going through both sides of the stitch or just the inner one.
With your increases do you do the first sc through the front loop only and the second sc through both loops? It looks like that and ive never seen that before. Happy to learn any benefits to it. Really enjoying your videos, im a recent subscriber after TH-cam kept insisting I watch 'Will it crochet?' 😊
Could you make a snake bracelet?
Beautiful. Kitchen witch please.
19:37 Just marking where I am.
i am in love with your patterns 😩 would you consider making a stag beetle pattern? they're my fav animal but i'm new to crochet and can't find anyone whos made one 😭
I would love to do thus but because if my love of ball pythons and other chunky snakes I would love to make this snake chunky! What would be required to thicken them up a bit at the body?
Oh my gosh this has no right to be so cute! When I have time I need to try this out! Can you make the cockatoo giant next? They’re my favorite animal!
Omg yes the cockatoo would be great 😮
Is there a pattern for the shrug you are wearing? It's very cool!
The shrug I'm wearing is the "granny hexagon cardigan", and there are so many patterns all over the internet for it. Super easy to make, and comes out really cozy!
hi, i recently found your channel. these amigurmi's are amazing. I started a jacket/cardigan project but never continued it and now i wanna do amigurumi or however it's spelled. I want to make my own but i know absolutely nothing about making them. i know the terms like sc, and dec, and inc, etc. Can you do a tutorial if you haven't already on making diy arigurumi
I have never seen an increase how you do it ... front loop for first stitch and both loops for second stitch. Does this make a neater increase or have I just been doing it wrong all these years by doing both stitches in both loops?
Love your videos, only found you a day ago 😊
I'm so confused by this. The decrease as well... i make them both differently
Do you sell the pattern on Etsy? Is love to purchase the pattern. This is such a beautiful snake 💙
I'd LOVE if you could make a larger version of the christmas frog! I also had a question - when you increase, you make the first stitch in flo before doing the second in both loops; i've never seen it done this way! Is there a reason or is it just a thing you do?
That is called an invisible increase! It makes it so you don't get those little increase holes on your finished pieces. I find it also helps me count :)
Can you use a larger hook size?
How much yarn did you use?
I can't do your pattern the way you have it shown,,,do to my trouble with tremors, so I've had to go up to a 6mm hook and double strands....I hope it turns out ok,
Awww. Sssnek needssss hissssss tongue!
how do u get the bigger safety eyes to go through the face? ive never had an issue with smaller eyes but i can never get any of the bigger ones in and i don't want to avoid it again for my snake, i use the same yarn and hook size and single crochet, if i crocheted any looser there would be noticeable gaps, and ive tryed pulling at the hole but i can't get it to fit would u know how to fix this?
You can try working a larger hook through the stitches to open it up a little more. I don't have this issue often, but when I do, I use a 4mm hook and poke it through, then a 5mm, then a 5.5mm, etc until it fits. Silver lining: your tension must be incredible to cause consistent problems!
@@ComplicatedKnots ah tysm my snake can now see i can't wait to finish him :D
i have been doing this snake for the last 4-5 hours and dame you were not kidding about counting your stitches cozz it can affekt the curv of the tail well lets just say my brock his back im not going to fix it its my first time making anything like this my brain is mush and yea i just cant be botherd XDD
It's so cool still prefer your pokémon but this is amazing 🎉 would love to see a Vulpix or one of the eevee evolutions 😊
i keep reading sc3tog as “skeetog” and its makes me laugh every time i see it XD
skeetog
Did you make the little one inside out and thats why it curls differently??
Nope! It was when I was doing the maths for the chest curve, I think I slightly rotated where the incs and decreases fell, and then reinforced it in subsequent rows. Not very interesting, but basically it came down to human error :)
@@ComplicatedKnots as a fellow math fiend, it really is interesting!!
Is row 15 correct? It looks to me like there's 1 stitch missing.
3 + 5 + (2*4) + 5 = 21
Also since I'm here, if I ever encounter a pattern that has a stitch missing (and can't contact the author), should I: add an sc at the end or just roll with it?
Well spotted! R15 should be 3[inc], 5sc, 4[dec], 6sc. I'll add a pinned comment now.
As for the other thing, I'll be the first to tell you crochet is VERY forgiving, so if you can't reach the designer, either approach would likely work. I would just keep an eye on any elements that may need to line up later in the piece, make sure it's looking right.
With my patterns I would default to making them as-written, as I've likely made it at least once with whatever typo/error is there.
Thank you :)
Hi, ma'am!!! Would love ❤ to make this snake 🐍 7 feet long. Which yarn should I 🤔 use and how much will I require??? Please 🙏🏻 guide me. With love 😍 from India 🇮🇳.
What yarn do you use I've tried it with multicoured yarn mine doesn't come out the same it's mainly all 1 colour
I've looked, and this specific colourway doesn't seem to be available anymore. The brand is 4Seasons Printed Marvel. If you are looking for this kind of "speckled"/confetti type multi-colour yarn though, you can check out a strand of your yarn - if each colour takes 2cm-5cm before changing to the next, you'll get speckles that will pool in different ways (like the stripes on my snake today)
@@ComplicatedKnots Spotlight has changed suppliers and this one is no longer a lovely pastel. Many colours have changed drastically, peacock springs to mind😢
I'm very confused... 😅 I've noticed that you decrease differently than I know it. I go into the next two stitches so that I have three loops on my hook, yarn over and pull through all three of them. Is this wrong or are both ways okay?
Both ways are fine. I use something called an invisible decrease, but it produces the same result as what you're describing :)
What about making a liepard, jangmo- o, noibat, tentacruel, or a drowzee Pokémon ? Or a bigger frilled neck lizard, enchidna, cockatoo, owl, skeleton or just the skull, pangolin ,dead head hawk moth, or crocodile? I think any of these would be awesome.
why are't you using a stitch marker? that really gets me confused!
Hello, new here. Do you have a tutorial that explains all the abbreviations? Like what is inc and how do you do it? I’m newish to crocheting and would love to do this but I can’t follow because you are going fast and I can’t read the instructions . I know sc is single stitch dc is double crochet and that’s about it LOL
I've never done a video on the basics, as there are so many out there and my patterns tend to be a bit...complicated? However if you check the video description, I always include a glossary telling you what each abbreviation is and a reminder on how to do the stitch :)
@@ComplicatedKnots thank you, I really want to make this but am a semi beginner lol
R18 is confusing me. It say 2[sc,in] does that mean 2 of each? Same as 2[inc, sc] as well. Help!
Okay, so it means two repeats of sc, inc. You repeat the pattern that is inside the brackets the number of times that is on the outside of the bracket.
I would love for you to make a bigger fox in more of a playful pose!
When I crochet row 15 I am only doing 20 stitches not 21. So I am left with a remaining stitch. I watched you and you just kept going irregardless of that stitch. Should the pattern be adjusted?
Check her note in the top of the comments section of this video. She explains it there.
OMG I love all of your videos!! It would be cool if you could make Kurama from Naruto(he is a 9 tailed fox) I know it might be hard but I would like to see that in a future video, so I’ll keep my fingers crossed 🤞
Je moc krásný ❤,ale šlo by udělat video jak z velkého udelat malý
Moc děkuji za odpověď ❤
I love your patterns they’re so cute. Have you ever considered making a lion, peacock, or a kangaroo with an optional joey? Also is there a pattern for your large owl?
I'll add those three to the list! There is no pattern for the owls, I didn't write them down. I'll possibly recreate the 10hour one at some point to share though.
Me: *runs out of stuffing*
*Uses bernat blanket yarn*
Oh! Guess my green blue and purple snake now has pink spots where decreases are! Cute!
Have you tried doing your decreased using the front loop only? It makes them invisible so the color won’t pop through!
Please show me how to crochet a goat with long ears!
So far mine looks so bad (stitches are surprisingly clean though) but there's one area where it looks like he ate a rat LOL
How about an armadillo???
I made this with jumbo yarn and it came out huge! Thanks so much for sharing the pattern!
I have size 6 jumbo chenielle yarn and I'm anxious to see what size it becomes! 😅
28:55
Kak buat tutorial Beanie hat 🐙
Would you be interested in crocheting a blue footed booby ?
I can't seem to make it colorful.
I’m so frustrated. I cannot get past the neck.
im a beginner, this is no help for me😂
hi there
Hi :)
Can’t see what you’re doing.
How much yarn did you use?