@@anthonyviscusi4042 Sure! I carry X-Bull traction Boards, Come-along winch, shovel, axe, clipers, saw, yang strap, tree strap, tools and jack. I have a high lift jack I bring if we expect big rocks.
David Smith Thank you so much. Comments like yours really motivates us to make the videos and in return my videos are motivating you to get out there! Win Win! 😂👍
Wait a second ... youre telling me a 4runner can off road like this without a shovel and axe, a rooftop tent, 500lbs of bumpers, LED light bars aiming in every direction and 5 cans of fuel hanging form every corner? Impossible! What kind of black magic fuckery is this!? .... :)
Nic Restrepo 😂 That’s funny! I’m definitely a minimalist when it comes to off-roading. These trucks perform so much better without all that extra weight. The only thing I keep in the back is recovery gear, tools, and a cooler.
Jim/Erin Rose i see so many more trucks upside down on trails now days now that everyone thinks roof top tents are so ...necessary ? It really is crazy how i used to maybe catch one truck a year that got a little on its side, almost never saw any totally go over, but now days its a regular occurrence and they always have like 400-500lbs of nonsense on the roof, starting with them roof tents. And these poor 4runners already suffer on power, then they add about 1000lbs worth of bumpers and tents, now it needs a downhill and a tailwind to get up to 75mph.. never mind performing on a trail.
Nic Restrepo Absolutely true!!!! A light rig with a low center of gravity makes all the difference in the world. Plus with my setup I can hit 115 on the highway!😂
Jim/Erin Rose and your tires are not wobbling you to death! So many 4runner owners that do all this crazy heavy “upgrades” on 4runner forums trying to figure out why they can’t keep their tires balanced 🤷🏽♂️
Nic Restrepo I did have that issue when the truck was new, but when you change to new tires there are some tricks. Tire manufacturers put a ink dot on the side of the tire. It’s usually red or blue. Line that dot up with the valve stem on the rim and your tire will balance a lot better. If you still are having issues you can do a road force balance. If a tire won’t balance right on the road force return it for one that will. I’ve found stock rims are made to a higher standard then most of the aftermarket ones, this will also cause issues with balancing. Make sure after off-roading to clean the entire backside of the rim. That will throw off a balance too. Tire pressure also comes into play. Each tire is different but on the highway 30-32lb is the sweat spot for my C load BFG’s. Having to much pressure will magnify any balance issues.
I had a TRD Off Road as a rental for a month and took it off road a bit (enough to need the diff lock and low range). Such a beast! I can’t wait to get one when I move back from Japan. Cool video.
Finally took my 21 venture here based on the performance results in your video. Stock height, arb breathers, and wildpeak tires. I tried everything except the big hill climb 😅 including the quick sand pits and couldnt get her stuck (longer tham 20 seconds). Love your vids.
Great! Footage ❤ I did Hard Rock trails twice with my 01 Mercedes ML320 did concord the same roads, but I did not do the one that has the Boulder rocks do to the ML's ground Clarence, the 4runner is an amazing vehicles
It took me a while to find a 2021 without KDSS,that thing is more than capable without it.I gotta say you wheel that 4Runner like I wheel my K5 Blazer👍
I thought KDSS was supposed to add more capability because of better articulation. Is that not the case? I’m in the market for one of these and have been looking for one with KDSS but if it doesn’t really have much benefit I may as well skip it.
@@MrPrincecharming88 Hey Harry I can't see paying 1700 extra for it.Not that long ago that system was on alot of Lexus SUV's lots of issues with it.Super expensive if it needs work.
Wow!......good to know how capable this thing IS! I have a 16 set up very similar to yours but I didn't think it could get up a few of those hills! My 89 SR-5 V-6 was so much smaller but just as capable.....I guess I underestimated the 5th Gen but you opened my eyes!
Those sliders gettin a work out! Great vids. I own some property in Marion county and had no idea this place existed. Gonna make a day trip one day from Jax.
James Delaney Thanks! 😉👍 Yea my skids and sliders don’t have a easy life!😬 you definitely have to go. It’s better in dry season. We went in summer one time and some of the trails were impassable.
Love your videos!! Would love to meet up with you at this park sometime. My family lives in Clermont not too far from there and we hope to get down there this summer!
Cache Moola Thanks! 😉👍 90% of the time 4Low will get you through anything. For that 10% I’ll usually turn on the rear locker and A-trac. The other stuff is fun to play with but you really don’t need it.
Dude. These vids are the best. Great content and really show what the 4R does. I live in North Orlando area. Just took over my wife’s 2011 limited. With 170k on it. Since it’s now mine, I’m wanting to do OME lifts etc. would love to know the place you go in central FL area. I found the park in this vid. Where is citrus? Address? Keep up the great work and don’t forget to thank your wife for walking all the time while you ride!! :)
Thanks for the nice comment. Don't worry I always thank my wife for her hard work. LOL I highly recommend OME lifts they are tough as nails! If you google search "Citrus Wildlife Management Area" you'll see it on the map. It's West of Floral City and 41. From Orlando you'll probably want go E Stage Coach trail road to trial 13 make a right. Make sure to find the caves off trail 22. Park by the yellow gate and walk about a 1/2 mile it's on the left. Lots of cool trails, Trail 14 is fun. 19 is a hard one but it was closed down this time. Let me know how you like it. Thanks again!
I’ve had my 4Runner and want to build it the same way. Moderate lift with armor underneath and sliders. 🔥 simple and effective. What kind of mileage are you getting? With gas being over 4.50 now weight is a huge priority with my truck.
Cool! If it helps I have a mods video on my channel th-cam.com/video/Zrtd5qsXDbQ/w-d-xo.html We just drove to Atlanta and averaged 17.5mpg going 75mph hand calculated.
The mercedes g series has a front diff lock. Do you think there is this deficiency in 4runner's ability? Would it be better if it had a front diff lock? is it necessary, do you need it? Does it benefit if it were? Can front diff lock be attached?
Türkgeldi Group Atrac allows the front diff to act like it has a locker. Applying brake to the wheel that is spinning so the power will go to the other wheel. It’s not as good as a front locker but it gets the job done.
Is your side steps/rock sliders... bolted on or are they welded or both?? Mine I have appear to be the same as yours.. but are bolted on...I was thinking of having them welded on for extra strength..
Insane! Well done again! I am just curious to know if going down the steep hills, did you ever need the downhill assist ? The suspension is brutally incredible ! So, you mostly had it on L4R ? No Crawl Control? You were moving pretty fast at times on those bumpy roads. Hence, this shows the true force of the off road 4 runner! The 285’s did help indeed but you have experience. Well done again! Proud to be a 4 Runner owner! 🥂
Thanks again for the nice comments! For me the crawl control/takes the fun out of it. I just used 4low/and kept it in first or second gear. Rear locker/Atrac when needed. It’s hard to tell in the video but the hills were way more steep and slippery than they looked. I usually go slow to be easy on the truck but you really needed momentum to make it up some of the hills. Going down I didn’t use Crawl Control/downhill assist either. Just put it in 1st gear, traction control off and pump the brakes, makes it way more exciting 😂
@@jimerinrose6235 Awesome! If ever you write a book on this, I will be the first to buy it! Everything seems to be situational when having at disposal all those tools you can use with this type of machine. Hence, using the low gear ( S mode ?) kind of puts less strain on the engine and provides for better control. There was a time you seemed to be about to " TIP OVER" but the 4Runner held ground and I assume at that point in time, the rear locker /altrac was needed ? I guess the Crawl could be used in worst case scenarios whereby you really get stuck like in sand or mud and the wheels just keep spinning. Anyhow, you guys rock big time! Many cheers! Alex ;-)
Alex Polidoro Thanks! No book plans soon. Lol Yea these rigs have a ton of tools at your disposal. When climbing a uneven surface Atrac and the rear locker come into play. Rear locker allows both rear wheels to spin at the same rate so you don’t lose traction on one wheel if the other starts to spin. With Atrac the computer applies brakes to a spinning wheel so the opposite wheel can get power and traction. If the rear locker is on atrac is still working on the front two wheels. I like to use manual mode on the shifter so I can stay in the gear I want. 1st and 2nd is good for going up steep hills. Going down hill put it in 1st gear to keep the speed down. And apply the brakes as needed. You could also use crawl control/ hill descent. When it starts to tip going down hill the key is to have the wheels pointed in the direction it is tipping towards, that way you can just let off the brake and the rear will drop back down. Going up hill if it’s starts to tip just let off the gas, let it roll back a few feet and brake lightly.I’ve had lots of practice!😂
@@jimerinrose6235 Thank you for taking the time to write. Much appreciated. These tips will help indeed. I will have to practice and get better at this. You are right regarding the 1st and 2nd gears. They come in handy when needed. I use it sometimes for sudden stops and you notice the vehicle reducing its speed much more quicker without even applying the breaks.Thanks for the great support! If there is no book on the landscape, maybe a 4 Runner Off-Road driving school may make us all happy campers! Cheers!!!
Nice video! Can you run both the crawl control and multi terrain select at the same time? I tried it on my 2020 TRD off road, if you turn on the MTS first before the crawl control it seems like it works because the light on the dashboard says they are on. But I'm skeptical because I heard that you cannot run both at the same time. Any thoughts?
Thanks! I have played with that too and both seem to be on. Whether or not the multi terrain is really working with the crawl control I have no clue.To be honest hardly ever use Crawl Control/MultiTerrain. The rear locker and Atrac gets me through all of the tough stuff.
Do you find yourself needing to lock the rear diff often, or does ATRAC work sufficiently? Have you noticed a change in performance or mileage with the TJM snorkle?
I do use the rear locker and ATRAC on really steep climbs. Otherwise just 4wd low. The locker really keeps the rear planted and Atrac helps with the front gain traction. I do think you could do it all with just atrac. Might need a little more momentum in some spots. I have not noticed a differenceeither way with the Snorkle other than it sounds really cool.
did you have the spc uca's when you got your lift or did you get it after? i don't remember. if not, did you notice a difference with and without the aftermarket uca's?
P JB I got them installed at the same time. When my truck was new I wasn’t happy with how it drove on the highway, it wondered a lot. To fix this I bumped the caster to +4 degrees . Made a world of difference. When I did the lift I wanted to make sure I could still adjust the caster so I got the SPC adjustable UPC and set the caster to +4. Truck drives perfect on the highway even with the lift. I’m super happy with the set up.
@@jimerinrose6235 thanks so much jim! i appreciate it. looking forward to more vids. have you don't the GA traverse yet? i plan on doing it in the spring.
Very good video, love the Toyota’s. I have an off road Tacoma, if you don’t mind how much lift did you put on the 4-runner?. I’m trying to decide on level or lift.....
Got the same truck/ year/ color/ trim!!! Just had Toyota do my Bilstein 5100 install (got a great deal/ hookup) and I wanna do new tires. BFG KO2 or Nitto Ridge Grapplers?? 90+% FL highway driving. Gonna stick with stock size and C load as it’s my daily and I drive over 25,000 miles a year. Any advise would be very very appreciated!!!
@@ZaneBezesky I just watched some videos of slick rock. Looks like a fun one! Don’t remember it but there were a few obstacles that were pretty tore up and there was no way my 4 runner had the clearance to do them. I know my limitations😂
Jim/Erin Rose Hey, you were doing some pretty gnarly stuff! So I thought maybe you figured out some crazy line, haha! And I think knowing your limits instead severely pushing your limits is what intelligent people do 👍
Jim/Erin Rose I have the exact same rig color everything. I use the crawl control once in awhile mostly on steep down grades. I am heading to the Moab tomorrow. My 4 runner is stock except for the tires, do you think I would be okay without rock sliders?
I was just about to message you on your last video and wonder where you two went. Recently went down to South Mountain State Park, though me and the S/O are headed to Fowler Area of PA to look for those trails you did in Portage. Would love a link to the GPS area where you two were back in the summer!
LOL Yea we stayed in Florida this weekend. I found the place in Portage on google satelite maps. It was pretty easy to spot. I'd have to look and see where it is again. I'll get back to you.
Great video. A simple, quality lift plus some armor and you're making stuff look great that I'd never imagine doing in my 4R. Do you remember and mind sharing your thoughts on your specific OME setup? I'm dead set on OME shocks and front springs, but the rear springs start at "medium", and ARB says not to use them unloaded...
Thanks! Really Appreciate it. I do have the soft springs in the front and medium in the back. Absolutely love that set up. I tow a car trailer and a double jet ski trailer and the medium springs work awesome. I only notice the rear sitting a little higher when it’s totally empty. On trips when the back is loaded down with gear it’s level. The ride empty and loaded is perfect. Way better than stock. I think arb is referring to the front springs when they say don’t use medium unless you have extra weight. Like a steel bumper and winch. Medium Spring in the rear is perfect for stock.
@@jimerinrose6235 Thanks for the response, Im a big fan of your videos. Have a 2018 trd off road premium, hope to lift it and put all terrain tires on it soon!
We got a 2019 4Runner limited new about 6 months ago and have only put 3k miles on it, we love it, I love the 4.0 v6 and that it’s awd, never buy another suv
Great content Jim and Erin, just subscribed after running through all the videos. I have a question, can you run the 285/70/17 BFG KO2's on the stock suspension set up or did you need to do the lift kit and adjustable UCA first? Your videos have convinced me to go back to the 4runner, had one many years ago. Was looking at the rubicon recon edition or the TRD Off road premium. Really need the towing capacity of the 4runner for our small travel trailer but was not sure how capable the new ones were off road. As you have shown this baby rocks off road without a ton of added BS and it is much less expensive than that rubicon recon. Thanks and keep up the great work.
Randy Shoemaker thanks. Really appreciate the comment. I did a 3in old man emu lift and adjustable UCA before I put the 285/70/17s on. I also had to remove the front mud flaps and move the inner fender that attaches to the bumper out about a couple inches. I tow my one car trailer with a car all the time and it’s a great tow rig.
Jim/Erin Rose Thanks for the quick response. I think i will start with the 275/70/17s since they fit on a stock setup dont have the cash for lift right now. ATB
Thanks! Citrus is about a hour south of Hardrock. Citrus has a ton of trails we just recorded a small section of trail 14. We did both in one day and we are 3 hours south of Hardrock.
Anonymous Suomynona Never undercoated the 4Runner. I live in Florida so it doesn’t see road salt. It does see some salt from beach driving and launching our jet skis. When I bought the truck new I sprayed fluid film in/on the frame and spots that might rust. I wash the underside after every use and don’t really have any rust besides surface rust on the skids and sliders where the paint got scratched off. Once in a while I just rattle can those spots. I try my best to keep it in good shape.
Nothing I live in Quebec and the road salt they use here is brutal! I had a 2011 that I had rusrproofed every year using Krown and the underside looked almost new after five years. After totalling my 2011 I picked up a 2013 that had been rust proofed every year using Metropolitan rust proofing and the underside looked like hell!
Anonymous Suomynona We’re still hear!😉👍 Last couple off-road trips were in Florida and repeats of other trips we filmed. Our big trip this summer is going to be in Colorado. We’ll probably plan some others on the east coast before then.
Thanks! Mods include 3inch OME 4R20 lift kit from Toytec, 285/70/17 BFG KO2's, SPC adjustable UCA, RCI full steel skids, RSG sliders, TJM Snorkel, and home made diff breather.
Jim/Erin Rose exactly what I was looking for! Great video nonetheless. Just found it today and now I’m more convinced about getting a 4Runner for the family. Thank y’all! And stay safe out there.
Nope, Just a little crazy!!! Watched your video's looks like you're right there with me!!! LOL We have similar hobbies I also Drag Race for fun. We run the Immokalee and Bradenton FL tracks over here on the west coast. Looks like you'll be needing a Snorkel on the Taco pretty soon!!!! After about the 20th time with water over the hood I figured my luck was out and it was due. LOL
bob roger TRD off road and pro have identical 4wd systems if you want full time 4wd I get a Lexus GX, LX or Landcruiser. Unfortunately most of those don’t have rear lockers. Pick your poison. I’ve owned all the above vehicles. 40,80, and 100 series Land Cruiser. Lexus GX and LX 470. By far the 4Runner TRD platform is my favorite for off road trails.
Bro...2 things. 1 get some underbody skid plates before you rip something off. And get a "skidmark 4x4" skidplate which is super affordable but a lifesaver. Doing this kind of off-roading with zero underbody protection other than stock is tempting fate big time. And this is an TRD Off Road as well, an indication it is missing a number of skid plates most would consider a requirement. What are you doing when you inevitably get stuck Jim? I love to wheel as you do at roughly the same trail ratings (3 it looks like) so the questions are of genuine interest.
I have full RCI skids and RSG sliders I carry traction boards, yank straps and hand winch. 3 year and 85k miles off roading this truck all over the country never had a issue we couldn’t handle.
@@jimerinrose6235 well, how in the hell did I miss the underbody protection? RSG makes the best sliders IMO as well. I haven't used traction boards only MaxTrax. I thought they were just for snow. Shows what I know.
Music was perfect
DGK 😂
Jim could you tell us what you have as far as recovery gear? Thanks...I enjoy the videos!@@jimerinrose6235
@@anthonyviscusi4042 Sure! I carry X-Bull traction Boards, Come-along winch, shovel, axe, clipers, saw, yang strap, tree strap, tools and jack.
I have a high lift jack I bring if we expect big rocks.
@@jimerinrose6235 Jim, what portable air compressor do you use?
ALL off road videos should have this music!😊
Best 4 runner offroad action I've found. Hope more people find your videos. Keep it up, makes me want to take mine out. 👍
David Smith Thank you so much. Comments like yours really motivates us to make the videos and in return my videos are motivating you to get out there! Win Win! 😂👍
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Wait a second ... youre telling me a 4runner can off road like this without a shovel and axe, a rooftop tent, 500lbs of bumpers, LED light bars aiming in every direction and 5 cans of fuel hanging form every corner? Impossible! What kind of black magic fuckery is this!? .... :)
Nic Restrepo 😂 That’s funny!
I’m definitely a minimalist when it comes to off-roading. These trucks perform so much better without all that extra weight. The only thing I keep in the back is recovery gear, tools, and a cooler.
Jim/Erin Rose i see so many more trucks upside down on trails now days now that everyone thinks roof top tents are so ...necessary ? It really is crazy how i used to maybe catch one truck a year that got a little on its side, almost never saw any totally go over, but now days its a regular occurrence and they always have like 400-500lbs of nonsense on the roof, starting with them roof tents. And these poor 4runners already suffer on power, then they add about 1000lbs worth of bumpers and tents, now it needs a downhill and a tailwind to get up to 75mph.. never mind performing on a trail.
Nic Restrepo Absolutely true!!!! A light rig with a low center of gravity makes all the difference in the world. Plus with my setup I can hit 115 on the highway!😂
Jim/Erin Rose and your tires are not wobbling you to death! So many 4runner owners that do all this crazy heavy “upgrades” on 4runner forums trying to figure out why they can’t keep their tires balanced 🤷🏽♂️
Nic Restrepo I did have that issue when the truck was new, but when you change to new tires there are some tricks. Tire manufacturers put a ink dot on the side of the tire. It’s usually red or blue. Line that dot up with the valve stem on the rim and your tire will balance a lot better. If you still are having issues you can do a road force balance. If a tire won’t balance right on the road force return it for one that will. I’ve found stock rims are made to a higher standard then most
of the aftermarket ones, this will also cause issues with balancing. Make sure after off-roading to clean the entire backside of the rim. That will throw off a balance too. Tire pressure also comes into play. Each tire is different but on the highway 30-32lb is the sweat spot for my C load BFG’s. Having to much pressure will magnify any balance issues.
It's impressive how these 4RUNNERS are so well build
Yes! Bullet Proof!!!
Video doesn’t usually do the hills justice but they do in this. Jesus buddy that was great
Alex Trebek Thanks! 😉👍
That was awesome! Thanks for taking us along💪
Thanks my pleasure! :)
So cool. Thanks to you it’s now on the “to do” list of places to hit. Thank you.
Thanks!!! You’ll have a blast!!😉👍
Amazing vehicle. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks really appreciate it!
Such a quality video! Need more like this 😍 love seeing 4runners work technical trials
Thanks really appreciate it! 😉👍
I had a TRD Off Road as a rental for a month and took it off road a bit (enough to need the diff lock and low range). Such a beast! I can’t wait to get one when I move back from Japan. Cool video.
chrisridebike8 Thanks!😉👍
Great job, thanks much to the cameraWOMAN!!
We both thank you!😉👍😉👍
Thank you so much for sharing your videos!
My pleasure, love making them. Just posted this one in in 4k I guess it takes some time to fully process on youtube.
I went here recently and going down the big hill is scary as hell in person lol. Thanks for the great videos !
Thanks! You’re welcome !
Thanks for posting...
Thanks!😉👍
Nice driving!
Thanks!
Finally took my 21 venture here based on the performance results in your video. Stock height, arb breathers, and wildpeak tires. I tried everything except the big hill climb 😅 including the quick sand pits and couldnt get her stuck (longer tham 20 seconds). Love your vids.
That’s awesome! Glad you liked it!i
I think you need to plan a trip out west to Moab. It’s a surreal trip, you’d absolutely love it!
Great! Footage ❤
I did Hard Rock trails twice with my 01 Mercedes ML320 did concord the same
roads, but I did not do the one that has the Boulder rocks do to the ML's ground Clarence, the 4runner is an amazing vehicles
Thanks!
That's impressive!
It took me a while to find a 2021 without KDSS,that thing is more than capable without it.I gotta say you wheel that 4Runner like I wheel my K5 Blazer👍
Thanks! 😉👍
I thought KDSS was supposed to add more capability because of better articulation. Is that not the case? I’m in the market for one of these and have been looking for one with KDSS but if it doesn’t really have much benefit I may as well skip it.
@@MrPrincecharming88 Hey Harry I can't see paying 1700 extra for it.Not that long ago that system was on alot of Lexus SUV's lots of issues with it.Super expensive if it needs work.
@@MrPrincecharming88 Here is everything you need to know.
www.autoblog.com/2020/01/23/toyota-4runner-suspension-deep-dive/
Wow!......good to know how capable this thing IS! I have a 16 set up very similar to yours but I didn't think it could get up a few of those hills! My 89 SR-5 V-6 was so much smaller but just as capable.....I guess I underestimated the 5th Gen but you opened my eyes!
Thanks!
best off roading vidoes
Thanks really appreciate it.
You got a new subscriber from India
Thanks! :)
Great video, I love it man!
Thomas Head
Thanks! Glad you liked it!😉👍
Those sliders gettin a work out! Great vids. I own some property in Marion county and had no idea this place existed. Gonna make a day trip one day from Jax.
James Delaney Thanks! 😉👍
Yea my skids and sliders don’t have a easy life!😬 you definitely have to go. It’s better in dry season. We went in summer one time and some of the trails were impassable.
I'm not amazed at the 4Runner, I'm amazed Florida has terrain like this!
It is rare, but it is definitely there.
I freaking love this channel.
Sean Paul Marroquin
Thanks!!! Comments like yours make it all worth it!😉👍
Ah yes another video that gave me anxiety. Great driving! So many close calls!
ZEDXROM 😂Thanks!
This looks like a ton of fun, I want a 4runner so bad! Looking for a 4th gen.
Insomniak Studios Thanks it was!!!
Good luck in your search! 😉👍
Love your videos!! Would love to meet up with you at this park sometime. My family lives in Clermont not too far from there and we hope to get down there this summer!
Thanks! Hard Rock is 4 hours north if us try to make it up there once a year. Usually in the Winter.
Love the off road action! Can you put on text or narrate what setting you put the 4Runner in your next video so us newbs can learn from you.
Cache Moola Thanks! 😉👍 90% of the time 4Low will get you through anything. For that 10% I’ll usually turn on the rear locker and A-trac. The other stuff is fun to play with but you really don’t need it.
Jim/Erin Rose Nice! Thank you.
Hey guys. Love your channel!!! Was wondering if your 4Runner has KDSS? Trying to figure out if OME lifts are compatible with KDSS.
Thanks! We do not have KDSS
Dude. These vids are the best. Great content and really show what the 4R does. I live in North Orlando area. Just took over my wife’s 2011 limited. With 170k on it. Since it’s now mine, I’m wanting to do OME lifts etc.
would love to know the place you go in central FL area. I found the park in this vid. Where is citrus? Address?
Keep up the great work and don’t forget to thank your wife for walking all the time while you ride!! :)
Thanks for the nice comment. Don't worry I always thank my wife for her hard work. LOL
I highly recommend OME lifts they are tough as nails! If you google search "Citrus Wildlife Management Area" you'll see it on the map. It's West of Floral City and 41. From Orlando you'll probably want go E Stage Coach trail road to trial 13 make a right. Make sure to find the caves off trail 22. Park by the yellow gate and walk about a 1/2 mile it's on the left. Lots of cool trails, Trail 14 is fun. 19 is a hard one but it was closed down this time. Let me know how you like it. Thanks again!
@@jimerinrose6235 Thank You! Will do
Where is that trail ?. Great video.
Thanks! Ocala Florida
I’ve had my 4Runner and want to build it the same way.
Moderate lift with armor underneath and sliders. 🔥 simple and effective. What kind of mileage are you getting? With gas being over 4.50 now weight is a huge priority with my truck.
Cool! If it helps I have a mods video on my channel th-cam.com/video/Zrtd5qsXDbQ/w-d-xo.html
We just drove to Atlanta and averaged 17.5mpg going 75mph hand calculated.
The mercedes g series has a front diff lock.
Do you think there is this deficiency in 4runner's ability?
Would it be better if it had a front diff lock? is it necessary, do you need it? Does it benefit if it were?
Can front diff lock be attached?
Türkgeldi Group Atrac allows the front diff to act like it has a locker. Applying brake to the wheel that is spinning so the power will go to the other wheel. It’s not as good as a front locker but it gets the job done.
Old video but I have a question. Did you install differential drop kit with your lift?
No worries
No diff drop installed. 135k miles still going strong.
Is your side steps/rock sliders... bolted on or are they welded or both?? Mine I have appear to be the same as yours.. but are bolted on...I was thinking of having them welded on for extra strength..
They are bolted on. I’ve jacked the truck up using them and they are pretty dam strong. Never felt the need to weld them to the frame.
@@jimerinrose6235 Thank you so much for the reply! 4runner fam!
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Insane! Well done again! I am just curious to know if going down the steep hills, did you ever need the downhill assist ? The suspension is brutally incredible ! So, you mostly had it on L4R ? No Crawl Control? You were moving pretty fast at times on those bumpy roads. Hence, this shows the true force of the off road 4 runner! The 285’s did help indeed but you have experience.
Well done again!
Proud to be a 4 Runner owner!
🥂
Thanks again for the nice comments! For me the crawl control/takes the fun out of it. I just used 4low/and kept it in first or second gear. Rear locker/Atrac when needed. It’s hard to tell in the video but the hills were way more steep and slippery than they looked. I usually go slow to be easy on the truck but you really needed momentum to make it up some of the hills. Going down I didn’t use Crawl Control/downhill assist either. Just put it in 1st gear, traction control off and pump the brakes, makes it way more exciting 😂
@@jimerinrose6235 Awesome! If ever you write a book on this, I will be the first to buy it! Everything seems to be situational when having at disposal all those tools you can use with this type of machine.
Hence, using the low gear ( S mode ?) kind of puts less strain on the engine and provides for better control. There was a time you seemed to be about to " TIP OVER" but the 4Runner held ground and I assume at that point in time, the rear locker /altrac was needed ? I guess the Crawl could be used in worst case scenarios whereby you really get stuck like in sand or mud and the wheels just keep spinning. Anyhow, you guys rock big time! Many cheers! Alex ;-)
Alex Polidoro Thanks! No book plans soon. Lol Yea these rigs have a ton of tools at your disposal. When climbing a uneven surface Atrac and the rear locker come into play. Rear locker allows both rear wheels to spin at the same rate so you don’t lose traction on one wheel if the other starts to spin. With Atrac the computer applies brakes to a spinning wheel so the opposite wheel can get power and traction. If the rear locker is on atrac is still working on the front two wheels. I like to use manual mode on the shifter so I can stay in the gear I want. 1st and 2nd is good for going up steep hills. Going down hill put it in 1st gear to keep the speed down. And apply the brakes as needed. You could also use crawl control/ hill descent. When it starts to tip going down hill the key is to have the wheels pointed in the direction it is tipping towards, that way you can just let off the brake and the rear will drop back down. Going up hill if it’s starts to tip just let off the gas, let it roll back a few feet and brake lightly.I’ve had lots of practice!😂
@@jimerinrose6235 Thank you for taking the time to write. Much appreciated. These tips will help indeed. I will have to practice and get better at this. You are right regarding the 1st and 2nd gears. They come in handy when needed. I use it sometimes for sudden stops and you notice the vehicle reducing its speed much more quicker without even applying the breaks.Thanks for the great support! If there is no book on the landscape, maybe a 4 Runner Off-Road driving school may make us all happy campers! Cheers!!!
Alex Polidoro My Pleasure. I can talk 4Runners all day!😉👍
Nice video! Can you run both the crawl control and multi terrain select at the same time? I tried it on my 2020 TRD off road, if you turn on the MTS first before the crawl control it seems like it works because the light on the dashboard says they are on. But I'm skeptical because I heard that you cannot run both at the same time. Any thoughts?
Thanks! I have played with that too and both seem to be on. Whether or not the multi terrain is really working with the crawl control I have no clue.To be honest hardly ever use Crawl Control/MultiTerrain. The rear locker and Atrac gets me through all of the tough stuff.
Do you find yourself needing to lock the rear diff often, or does ATRAC work sufficiently?
Have you noticed a change in performance or mileage with the TJM snorkle?
I do use the rear locker and ATRAC on really steep climbs. Otherwise just 4wd low. The locker really keeps the rear planted and Atrac helps with the front gain traction. I do think you could do it all with just atrac. Might need a little more momentum in some spots. I have not noticed a differenceeither way with the Snorkle other than it sounds really cool.
did you have the spc uca's when you got your lift or did you get it after? i don't remember. if not, did you notice a difference with and without the aftermarket uca's?
P JB I got them installed at the same time. When my truck was new I wasn’t happy with how it drove on the highway, it wondered a lot. To fix this I bumped the caster to +4 degrees . Made a world of difference. When I did the lift I wanted to make sure I could still adjust the caster so I got the SPC adjustable UPC and set the caster to +4. Truck drives perfect on the highway even with the lift. I’m super happy with the set up.
@@jimerinrose6235 thanks so much jim! i appreciate it. looking forward to more vids. have you don't the GA traverse yet? i plan on doing it in the spring.
P JB My pleasure. I have not done the GA traverse but it’s in my to do list!
Outstanding wheeling skills and definitely getting the most of out your well setup rig 👌. Did you remove the sway bars or keep em?
Tim Yarnell Thanks!😉👍
Didn’t touch the sway bars
Most unnatural! Love it!
Thanks!😉👍
Very good video, love the Toyota’s. I have an off road Tacoma, if you don’t mind how much lift did you put on the 4-runner?.
I’m trying to decide on level or lift.....
Michael Hanna Thanks so much!!
I have a OME 3 inch lift front and back. Gives it the factory stance.
Is this 4runner lifted???
Yarl Wise Yes, 3inch lift and 285/70/17 tires
What was your tire pressure on these hill climbs?
24psi
Upload more and tell us if this truck has any problems
Hey, new to the channel and probably one of my favourite 4runner channel. Is this beast equipped with kdss?
Thank you!!! :) I do not have kdss.
lookin good dude, I haven't taken our truck off road yet...….still has less than 5k on it
a j Thanks man!! 😉👍
Let me borrow it for a few days I’ll put some miles on!😂
Got the same truck/ year/ color/ trim!!! Just had Toyota do my Bilstein 5100 install (got a great deal/ hookup) and I wanna do new tires. BFG KO2 or Nitto Ridge Grapplers?? 90+% FL highway driving. Gonna stick with stock size and C load as it’s my daily and I drive over 25,000 miles a year. Any advise would be very very appreciated!!!
Fire Medic Cool!!!!!
I absolutely love the BFG KO2’s
Personally wouldn’t get anything else. Awesome on and off road.
Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s face it, the guy can drive. Let me ask, did you happen to do the slick rock obstacle?
Thanks for the compliment! 😉👍 Didn’t see a slick rock obstacle at Hard Rock? Must have missed it?
Jim/Erin Rose
You might have! So slick rock is probably the most difficult obstacle at Hard rock. It’s totally worth checking out on the tube.
@@ZaneBezesky I just watched some videos of slick rock. Looks like a fun one! Don’t remember it but there were a few obstacles that were pretty tore up and there was no way my 4 runner had the clearance to do them. I know my limitations😂
Jim/Erin Rose
Hey, you were doing some pretty gnarly stuff! So I thought maybe you figured out some crazy line, haha! And I think knowing your limits instead severely pushing your limits is what intelligent people do 👍
Do you use your crawl control much?
Not much.
Jim/Erin Rose I have the exact same rig color everything. I use the crawl control once in awhile mostly on steep down grades. I am heading to the Moab tomorrow. My 4 runner is stock except for the tires, do you think I would be okay without rock sliders?
I was just about to message you on your last video and wonder where you two went.
Recently went down to South Mountain State Park, though me and the S/O are headed to Fowler Area of PA to look for those trails you did in Portage.
Would love a link to the GPS area where you two were back in the summer!
LOL Yea we stayed in Florida this weekend. I found the place in Portage on google satelite maps. It was pretty easy to spot. I'd have to look and see where it is again. I'll get back to you.
Found it Puritan rd/164 and country lane
@@jimerinrose6235 Thanks again! Going this weekend with the S/O!
You ever come back to PA, would love to meet up for some jamboree!
Sensei Operator Sounds good!! 😉👍Let me know how it goes.
Great video. A simple, quality lift plus some armor and you're making stuff look great that I'd never imagine doing in my 4R. Do you remember and mind sharing your thoughts on your specific OME setup? I'm dead set on OME shocks and front springs, but the rear springs start at "medium", and ARB says not to use them unloaded...
Thanks! Really Appreciate it. I do have the soft springs in the front and medium in the back. Absolutely love that set up. I tow a car trailer and a double jet ski trailer and the medium springs work awesome. I only notice the rear sitting a little higher when it’s totally empty. On trips when the back is loaded down with gear it’s level. The ride empty and loaded is perfect. Way better than stock. I think arb is referring to the front springs when they say don’t use medium unless you have extra weight. Like a steel bumper and winch. Medium Spring in the rear is perfect for stock.
@@jimerinrose6235 good information.
Hey Jim, what size tire are you running?
Hi Ray,
I have BFG KO2’s 285/70/17 load range C
@@jimerinrose6235 Thanks for the response, Im a big fan of your videos. Have a 2018 trd off road premium, hope to lift it and put all terrain tires on it soon!
Ray Torres My pleasure! Thanks for the comment and good luck on your build.
😉👍
Outstanding best performance made
better than bmw.
Thank you!
Hey how many miles have you put on the 4runner
Over 60K
We got a 2019 4Runner limited new about 6 months ago and have only put 3k miles on it, we love it, I love the 4.0 v6 and that it’s awd, never buy another suv
Matthew Durrence Yea, they are great trucks!!!! Put some miles on that thing!😂
We are trying to preserve it for future generations 🤣
Your suspension stock? Kdss or not?
No KDSS
3inch old man emu
Did u even use ATRAC?
Adr1282 I do use Atrac and the rear locker on the tough stuff.
Great content Jim and Erin, just subscribed after running through all the videos. I have a question, can you run the 285/70/17 BFG KO2's on the stock suspension set up or did you need to do the lift kit and adjustable UCA first? Your videos have convinced me to go back to the 4runner, had one many years ago. Was looking at the rubicon recon edition or the TRD Off road premium. Really need the towing capacity of the 4runner for our small travel trailer but was not sure how capable the new ones were off road. As you have shown this baby rocks off road without a ton of added BS and it is much less expensive than that rubicon recon. Thanks and keep up the great work.
Randy Shoemaker thanks. Really appreciate the comment. I did a 3in old man emu lift and adjustable UCA before I put the 285/70/17s on. I also had to remove the front mud flaps and move the inner fender that attaches to the bumper out about a couple inches. I tow my one car trailer with a car all the time and it’s a great tow rig.
Jim/Erin Rose Thanks for the quick response. I think i will start with the 275/70/17s since they fit on a stock setup dont have the cash for lift right now. ATB
NICE! I can't believe Florida has such high altitude areas. How far apart is Citrus Trail #14 from Hard Rock? Is this all doable in one day?
Thanks! Citrus is about a hour south of Hardrock. Citrus has a ton of trails we just recorded a small section of trail 14.
We did both in one day and we are 3 hours south of Hardrock.
Jim/Erin Rose
Awesome! Thank you
Petros Haldoupis 😉👍
Hardrock is a old quarry. All of the hills are 100 year old spoil piles basically. The ponds are the old pits.
Awesome video, like always!!! Hey Jim, did you remove the KDSS system when you installed the lift kit? Thank You, stay safe!
Weekend Warrior Thanks! 😉👍
My truck never had KDSS.
You get 1000 extra points for not adding that shitty rave "music" crap!!! Well done!
😂thanks!
Do you have diff breathers?
4Runner Godfather it has factory front diff and transfer-case breathers I installed a rear diff breather.
Hey jim, quick question do you under coat your 4runner yearly? (Anti rust) or every other year is fine? Thanks.
Anonymous Suomynona
Never undercoated the 4Runner. I live in Florida so it doesn’t see road salt. It does see some salt from beach driving and launching our jet skis. When I bought the truck new I sprayed fluid film in/on the frame and spots that might rust. I wash the underside after every use and don’t really have any rust besides surface rust on the skids and sliders where the paint got scratched off. Once in a while I just rattle can those spots. I try my best to keep it in good shape.
Jim/Erin Rose lucky you jim! Here in canada during winter, salt everywhere! Thanks for the reply! Keep up the good work boss!♥️
Anonymous Suomynona 😉👍
Nothing I live in Quebec and the road salt they use here is brutal! I had a 2011 that I had rusrproofed every year using Krown and the underside looked almost new after five years. After totalling my 2011 I picked up a 2013 that had been rust proofed every year using Metropolitan rust proofing and the underside looked like hell!
Tim Brown I live in SW Ontario - Krown is the best undercoating in my opinion. Only way to go..
Jim/Erin you guys taking a holiday break!? It’s been over a month since last upload! Hope everything is alright!! Just checking in.
Anonymous Suomynona
We’re still hear!😉👍 Last couple off-road trips were in Florida and repeats of other trips we filmed.
Our big trip this summer is going to be in Colorado. We’ll probably plan some others on the east coast before then.
Thats amazing!!!! Did you do any mods on your 4 Runner?
Thanks! Mods include 3inch OME 4R20 lift kit from Toytec, 285/70/17 BFG KO2's, SPC adjustable UCA, RCI full steel skids, RSG sliders, TJM Snorkel, and home made diff breather.
Jim/Erin Rose exactly what I was looking for! Great video nonetheless. Just found it today and now I’m more convinced about getting a 4Runner for the family. Thank y’all! And stay safe out there.
Man i hope u are at least aware that you’re a legend.
Nope, Just a little crazy!!! Watched your video's looks like you're right there with me!!! LOL We have similar hobbies I also Drag Race for fun. We run the Immokalee and Bradenton FL tracks over here on the west coast. Looks like you'll be needing a Snorkel on the Taco pretty soon!!!! After about the 20th time with water over the hood I figured my luck was out and it was due. LOL
这坏蛋车 性能 真好
Not sure what that says but thanks!
And not a lightbar to be seen. Pay attention kids.
U guys have an Instagram account?
Cristian Ortega We do, but we don’t use it for our Off-Roading stuff just TH-cam.
It sucks that this version doesnt get full time 4wd, not even the TRD PRO gets it.
bob roger TRD off road and pro have identical 4wd systems if you want full time 4wd I get a Lexus GX, LX or Landcruiser. Unfortunately most of those don’t have rear lockers. Pick your poison. I’ve owned all the above vehicles. 40,80, and 100 series Land Cruiser. Lexus GX and LX 470. By far the 4Runner TRD platform is my favorite for off road trails.
Bro...2 things. 1 get some underbody skid plates before you rip something off. And get a "skidmark 4x4" skidplate which is super affordable but a lifesaver. Doing this kind of off-roading with zero underbody protection other than stock is tempting fate big time. And this is an TRD Off Road as well, an indication it is missing a number of skid plates most would consider a requirement. What are you doing when you inevitably get stuck Jim? I love to wheel as you do at roughly the same trail ratings (3 it looks like) so the questions are of genuine interest.
I have full RCI skids and RSG sliders
I carry traction boards, yank straps and hand winch. 3 year and 85k miles off roading this truck all over the country never had a issue we couldn’t handle.
@@jimerinrose6235 well, how in the hell did I miss the underbody protection? RSG makes the best sliders IMO as well. I haven't used traction boards only MaxTrax. I thought they were just for snow. Shows what I know.
@@JasonWh I call them traction boards they are actually called X-bull same as max tracks just way cheaper.
This is why you don't buy a used vehicle folks... Haha
How is this even fun???????????? I have been riding HARDROCK for years.... dirt bike! The idea of driving my 4runner on this is simply a snore fest!
Yes it would be a lot easier on a dirt bike.
@@jimerinrose6235 Easier and FUN! That does not look like fun! It looks stressing.