Superb job - that does look absolutely spot on. I've not done any weathering with powders yet but watching this vid has inspired me to give it a go with some peco buffer stops I've just bought. Thanks for sharing!
Hi, thanks for those positive comments, appreciated. Yeah weathering powders seem less scary than air brushing or washes. I like them as you can go as dark/weathered as you want by just adding more. I show some weathered peco buffer stops in an earlier video. It will be from last August onwards I think if you want to check them out. Dave
Excellent, thanks Dave, I will check out the buffer stop video :) I had a feeling powders might give a bit more control than airbrushing or drybrushing, as it looks like you can gradually build up the effect and just stop when you think it looks good. Have you thought about adding some graffiti to the bridge sides? There are some excellent transfers available that really add to the effect of 'urban decay' - although they may look more at home on London based layouts! :)
tjf4375 Hi, Cheers. I have some graffiti on my retaining walls on the upper section sides and will be adding graffiti to other bridge sides in time. Graffiti will go on the other side of this bridge girder. Yeah there is some great water slide graffiti out there, we are spoilt for choice really! Cheers
Nice bit of weathering Dave, thanks for giving me a bit of confidence to tackle the things that turn our hobby into a realistic layout, thanks for sharing Dazza
Cheers Jason, glad you think mine is good too. No problem about the mention...I think its good we make mention of each others work in our videos. Its good to publicise fellow modellers. There is not enough of it in my opinion, we are all sharing the things we love doing and we ain't in competition with each other. Ok, I am off to do some more walling...I think I can get a job as a stone mason after this is finished, I have made enough walling to pass an apprenticeship lol Dave
Thanks for sharing this, good insight on the thought process. Good show. I usually use my WP's wet first, dig in some rust then, light dry powders. This seems to work ok to. I really like how these came out though.
Hi Dave excellent tutorial thanks. often the problem is just being brave enough to have a go at weathering. your demo is a simple and effective method which you make look easy. so I will give it a go also.
Hi Alan, I am in the same boat as you...you don't want to weather things in case you make a right mess of it!, but the powders are simple to use...give it and if it looks wrong, just paint over it and start again!
Cheers for your comment Terry, coming from the king of weathering, that is a great confidence boost for me! I plan to start fitting one side of the girder in place over the weekend and continuing my marathon retaining wall project!! Dave
Fantastic instructional video which shows how easy it is but in very understandable steps. I will need to go out and get some Humbrol weathering powders having seen the video. I think they should be available in Australia. One of the issues of modelling in Australia is getting paint like precision or rail match. Neither of these are available in enamels in Australia. Thanks for the insight as to your technique. Regards, Anthony Ashley
congratulations of what you have done, excellent layout and video presentation, really enjoyed following your progress...Now hurry up with the top level I'm getting impatient
Lol, I will!!....I need to get the lower level done first ;-) I am now moving in to the signalling of the lower level, placing the signals, cable trunking, relay boxes etc. Then its ballast, and then the top section can come alive! I am already planning into 2015, where the top section will continue all the way around the layout and the Depot will start to be planned and laid. Lots to do and not enough £££ to do it all this week! Thanks for your support and please keep watching. I appreciate feedback both good and constructive. Dave
Looks great Dave as ever, the layout is really taking shape. I've got some weathering powders myself but I haven't had a go at using them yet, but after seeing your results i think I'll have a go with them!! Mike
nice job Dave, the girder looks smart now, need to try them powders one day my self, watched a few you tube videos, but you made a great job of explaining how to use them Andy
Cheers Andy, I try to make it simple...I hate the videos that assume you know how to do things and don't explain them!, so I try to let everyone know how I do it so others may feel they can try it too. Dave
Great video, again like a previous comment living in Australia is sourcing products.Will start looking as I have a Dapol footbridge in need of finishing.
Yeah I am really pleased with the job...I have one side of the girder bridge nearly built, so it will feature in February's update video in a couple of weeks. Cheers. Dave
It looks wonderful. Nice to watch you doing it. I want to get more into the weathering, I just don't want to destroy all my stuff while I am learning. You've convinced me to try some more, once I get the big curve project completed. Rob
Rob, its easy using the powders. I agree with you, you don't want to make a mess of things. While I ain't brave enough to weather locos I can have a god at the smaller scenic items. If you make a mess, just paint over it and start again! And when do we ever stop learning?! lol. Cheers. Dave
digger evans Hi, thanks! I hope others find it equally useful! Please feel free to share my videos with your subscribers and comment on anything you see. Cheers. Dave
Hi Dave, very good presentation. Well done. I have seen some technique where a second colour is sprayed over the primer then after drying the top layer was scraped off to look as if the rust had come through the paintwork. Think I saw this in an issue of Model Rail. Have you tried this or will you do a video on it?
Not done that yet, but intend to have an industrial area on the other side of the layout in the future which will have some heavy rusting on steel structures. You can use Humbrol Maskol, see the Humbrol you tube channel to see how they use it, its great stuff. I have it for future work. Thanks for the positive comments.
Yeah I did, you've chosen a good topic, I love depots! I will be modelling one at the other side of my layout from the station, so I will be watching out for all of your tips! Dave
Hi, after you've put the powders on, just give a light spray with some matt varnish. I used Humbrol Acrylic matt varnish from a spray. Dries in minutes....job done! Cheers
Ok thanks for that, I wondered how it 'stuck'. Love your layout btw, I missed the last Hornby mag with your article so I will have to get one off Ebay.
Hi, another great video. I'm currently building the wills vari girder kit and i'm wondering do you paint your girders if so in what colour/brand or do you keep the colour the same
Hi, painted them with grey car primer. I used Hycote Plastic Grey Primer 400ml can (I got it online at Amazon), as that's what I had to hand, but Halfords stuff will do. Humbrol also do a spray grey primer. I built them all up and then painted them once assembled. I hope this helps? Dave
Yeah, a light coat of spray on varnish just seals it. Use spray on, as if you brush it on it may disturb the powders. I used Humbrol Spray Acrylic Varnish. Cheers. Dave
Hello please can you do a video or explain how to apply the matte cote to the girder. can it be brushed on or will this spoil the weathering effect as I don't have an air brush
+Daniel Brooks Hi, you can spray on the matt acrylic varnish from an aerosol. Humbrol produce them. You can get fast drying acrylic varnish or an enamel varnish. They come in matt and gloss finishes. If you brush on matt varnish it may upset the weathering powders. Hope this helps?! Dave
Yeah Dave, weathering was outwith my comfort zone, but with these powders its easy to build up your confidence as its easy to keep control of, unlike runny washes.
Hi Dave. I was just wondering what paint (make and colour) you used for your cable trunking, relay boxes and girder bridge for example). Thank very much. Ben
+Ben Tompkinson Hi Ben, for my cable trunking I use Phoenix Precision Paints NEW concrete enamel paint. Girder bridge is just grey primer. For the relay boxes I have used several greys (as they fade and are often a light grey, new ones a darker grey). I will get those paint numbers to you later....I cant remember right now! ;-( If I forget, please remind me!! Cheers. Dave
+DaveClass47. Thank you very much for your help with this. I have had layouts before but just the basic track nailed to a board sort. I am now more serious about the modelling etc and have some trunking and relay boxes as I wanted to get them down before I ballasted. My dilemma now is whether to solder my droppers to the fishplates before I ballast. My soldering iron hasn't arrived yet and I want to get on with it. I am worried about doing it first as I don't want to be able to see the soldering. What are your thoughts?
+DaveClass47. Thanks Dave. I will do that! I have just finished my station layout. Do you have somewhere I can send you a pic? I'd like to get your feedback if you wouldn't mind
The are available at most railway retailers. They are made by Wills - see the Peco website as they are all part of the same company! I got a pack from ebay and then another couple of packs from Hattons online shop www.ehattons.com - They are really impressive and easy and quick to build up. Peco also do a version of their very own, which also look good, but probably suitable for shorter spans.
Its not a race after all, may as well take your time and get it right, which you are! Its taken me 18 months to do my layout to this stage, I 'hope' to finish the station by Christmas! But no set time scale on it, I just work away as and when I can! Work and family take priority!
Superb job - that does look absolutely spot on. I've not done any weathering with powders yet but watching this vid has inspired me to give it a go with some peco buffer stops I've just bought. Thanks for sharing!
Hi, thanks for those positive comments, appreciated. Yeah weathering powders seem less scary than air brushing or washes. I like them as you can go as dark/weathered as you want by just adding more. I show some weathered peco buffer stops in an earlier video. It will be from last August onwards I think if you want to check them out. Dave
Excellent, thanks Dave, I will check out the buffer stop video :) I had a feeling powders might give a bit more control than airbrushing or drybrushing, as it looks like you can gradually build up the effect and just stop when you think it looks good. Have you thought about adding some graffiti to the bridge sides? There are some excellent transfers available that really add to the effect of 'urban decay' - although they may look more at home on London based layouts! :)
tjf4375 Hi, Cheers.
I have some graffiti on my retaining walls on the upper section sides and will be adding graffiti to other bridge sides in time. Graffiti will go on the other side of this bridge girder. Yeah there is some great water slide graffiti out there, we are spoilt for choice really! Cheers
Nice bit of weathering Dave, thanks for giving me a bit of confidence to tackle the things that turn our hobby into a realistic layout, thanks for sharing Dazza
Yeah have a go...all you need are some powders, brushes and some imagination. If I can do it.....
subtle use of weathering powder, nicely done. Great girder bridge, I now need to find on of those.
Thanks for the mention Dave. I think yours looks great. Looking forward to seeing it on the layout. Now get back to that retaining wall!!!! Jason.
Cheers Jason, glad you think mine is good too. No problem about the mention...I think its good we make mention of each others work in our videos. Its good to publicise fellow modellers. There is not enough of it in my opinion, we are all sharing the things we love doing and we ain't in competition with each other.
Ok, I am off to do some more walling...I think I can get a job as a stone mason after this is finished, I have made enough walling to pass an apprenticeship lol Dave
Hi Dave great look , have not done much with the powders but might be a job for the weekend cheers Kevin
Thanks for sharing this, good insight on the thought process. Good show. I usually use my WP's wet first, dig in some rust then, light dry powders. This seems to work ok to. I really like how these came out though.
That looks superb Dave. Thanks for putting this up!
Cheers James, Glad you like it. I really like the humbrol powders and at only £2.80 from Hattons they are decent value!
Hi Dave excellent tutorial thanks. often the problem is just being brave enough to have a go at weathering. your demo is a simple and effective method which you make look easy. so I will give it a go also.
Hi Alan, I am in the same boat as you...you don't want to weather things in case you make a right mess of it!, but the powders are simple to use...give it and if it looks wrong, just paint over it and start again!
the powders do a good job when used in the right way and you nailed it dave the girder looks very effective.......now to see it on the layout.
Cheers for your comment Terry, coming from the king of weathering, that is a great confidence boost for me! I plan to start fitting one side of the girder in place over the weekend and continuing my marathon retaining wall project!! Dave
Very informative video. I can imagine using this technique on mineral wagons. Thank you. Jimmie
Fantastic instructional video which shows how easy it is but in very understandable steps. I will need to go out and get some Humbrol weathering powders having seen the video. I think they should be available in Australia. One of the issues of modelling in Australia is getting paint like precision or rail match. Neither of these are available in enamels in Australia. Thanks for the insight as to your technique.
Regards,
Anthony Ashley
Anthony Ashley Railmatch is good paint! I use it a lot for track weathering. Yeah the powders are easy to use and quite fun to use too! Dave
Incredibly realistic finish. Top job! Cheers, Matt.
Thanks Matt, appreciate your kind words. I hope I have done grimy girder bridges everywhere justice with this one! lol
Hi Dave, That looks amazing, top job and given me some great inspiration for the layout I am just starting out on.
Looks real nice Dave. Thanks for the tips. I have loads to do including some stock, so the tip of using it dry was good advice. Cheers Bob
congratulations of what you have done, excellent layout and video presentation, really enjoyed following your progress...Now hurry up with the top level I'm getting impatient
Lol, I will!!....I need to get the lower level done first ;-)
I am now moving in to the signalling of the lower level, placing the signals, cable trunking, relay boxes etc. Then its ballast, and then the top section can come alive!
I am already planning into 2015, where the top section will continue all the way around the layout and the Depot will start to be planned and laid. Lots to do and not enough £££ to do it all this week!
Thanks for your support and please keep watching. I appreciate feedback both good and constructive.
Dave
any sneak insight as to how the TMD will be incorporated.
I will cover it in my next video....coming any day now. It will be on the other side of the layout.
Looks great Dave as ever, the layout is really taking shape. I've got some weathering powders myself but I haven't had a go at using them yet, but after seeing your results i think I'll have a go with them!! Mike
nice job Dave, the girder looks smart now, need to try them powders one day my self, watched a few you tube videos, but you made a great job of explaining how to use them Andy
Cheers Andy, I try to make it simple...I hate the videos that assume you know how to do things and don't explain them!, so I try to let everyone know how I do it so others may feel they can try it too. Dave
Great video, again like a previous comment living in Australia is sourcing products.Will start looking as I have a Dapol footbridge in need of finishing.
An excellent tutorial Dave I have just bought some of those girders so it's very good timing for me Denis
Yeah I am really pleased with the job...I have one side of the girder bridge nearly built, so it will feature in February's update video in a couple of weeks. Cheers. Dave
A very nice effort and presentation. I like your pace and explanations. :-)
Hi, its nice of you to say so, so thank you very much. I hope you have a crack at doing this yourself..its easy and gives good results. Cheers. Dave
It looks wonderful. Nice to watch you doing it. I want to get more into the weathering, I just don't want to destroy all my stuff while I am learning. You've convinced me to try some more, once I get the big curve project completed. Rob
Rob, its easy using the powders. I agree with you, you don't want to make a mess of things. While I ain't brave enough to weather locos I can have a god at the smaller scenic items. If you make a mess, just paint over it and start again! And when do we ever stop learning?! lol. Cheers. Dave
Very nicely done and useful tips.
Girders look great Dave, top job, cheers Stu
Lookin very good Dave I also think using them dry is better bridge will look spot on when it's on the layout
Cheers, yeah I feel comfortable with the dry powders.
Well done looks great definitely motivated me to try it now.
that came out looking like the real thing, i'm just starting out so i found this really useful thanks
digger evans Hi, thanks! I hope others find it equally useful! Please feel free to share my videos with your subscribers and comment on anything you see. Cheers. Dave
Nice work there mate. It certainly removes the otherwise "toy-like" look to the walls :).
Thanks for this. I have just bought some of these powders.
You wont regret it...just play about with the mixes and vary it as you go!
Looks great Dave, very realistic.
Ian
Hi Dave, very good presentation. Well done. I have seen some technique where a second colour is sprayed over the primer then after drying the top layer was scraped off to look as if the rust had come through the paintwork. Think I saw this in an issue of Model Rail. Have you tried this or will you do a video on it?
Not done that yet, but intend to have an industrial area on the other side of the layout in the future which will have some heavy rusting on steel structures. You can use Humbrol Maskol, see the Humbrol you tube channel to see how they use it, its great stuff. I have it for future work. Thanks for the positive comments.
Very nice job and an enjoyable video, the spray used on the girders is it the same spray used on the card models?
I used humbrol acrylic matt varnish on the girders, as I had it lying about. Suppose you could use normal spray varnish?!
It does look great. I was about to ask how you seal it in but then you just said. Hahaha
Great tutorial. Really like the effect.
Yeah its easy to do, give it a go!
Did get to see my pics Dave of the Tinsley model am doing still in early stage,s yet
Yeah I did, you've chosen a good topic, I love depots! I will be modelling one at the other side of my layout from the station, so I will be watching out for all of your tips! Dave
Great video, do you not have to set the powder?? How does it adhere to the surface please??
Hi, after you've put the powders on, just give a light spray with some matt varnish. I used Humbrol Acrylic matt varnish from a spray. Dries in minutes....job done! Cheers
Ok thanks for that, I wondered how it 'stuck'. Love your layout btw, I missed the last Hornby mag with your article so I will have to get one off Ebay.
Hi, another great video. I'm currently building the wills vari girder kit and i'm wondering do you paint your girders if so in what colour/brand or do you keep the colour the same
Hi, painted them with grey car primer. I used Hycote Plastic Grey Primer 400ml can (I got it online at Amazon), as that's what I had to hand, but Halfords stuff will do. Humbrol also do a spray grey primer.
I built them all up and then painted them once assembled. I hope this helps? Dave
Love the way you say girder :)
Great how to video thanks for sharing
Do u use any sealer like Matt varnish to keep the powder on or not disturb it !??? Great video :) Lewis
Yeah, a light coat of spray on varnish just seals it. Use spray on, as if you brush it on it may disturb the powders. I used Humbrol Spray Acrylic Varnish. Cheers. Dave
Nice video!
Just an question...did you add matt cote mix with the thinner first at the object,before to use color powder?
Anders Gullberg Hi, no I just applied the powders dry on to the primed surface. It was then sealed in place with a light spray of matt clear varnish.
Thanks for the tip!
how do you decide how much of each powder to mix together? Also how do you decide when you have enough on?
Hello please can you do a video or explain how to apply the matte cote to the girder. can it be brushed on or will this spoil the weathering effect as I don't have an air brush
+Daniel Brooks Hi, you can spray on the matt acrylic varnish from an aerosol. Humbrol produce them. You can get fast drying acrylic varnish or an enamel varnish. They come in matt and gloss finishes. If you brush on matt varnish it may upset the weathering powders. Hope this helps?! Dave
Brilliant Dave!!, what did you use to glue together? thanks for sharing the tips. Steve
Just poly cement I use for my airfix kits! Nothing special. Cheers. Dave
Ok thanks Dave
Looks great but do you finish it with a Matt varnish ?
Yeah a humbrol Matt varnish aerosol. Seals it all.
Sure makes a nice job , and as you say better done dry
Yeah Dave, weathering was outwith my comfort zone, but with these powders its easy to build up your confidence as its easy to keep control of, unlike runny washes.
Hi Dave. I was just wondering what paint (make and colour) you used for your cable trunking, relay boxes and girder bridge for example). Thank very much. Ben
+Ben Tompkinson Hi Ben, for my cable trunking I use Phoenix Precision Paints NEW concrete enamel paint. Girder bridge is just grey primer. For the relay boxes I have used several greys (as they fade and are often a light grey, new ones a darker grey). I will get those paint numbers to you later....I cant remember right now! ;-( If I forget, please remind me!! Cheers. Dave
+DaveClass47. Thank you very much for your help with this. I have had layouts before but just the basic track nailed to a board sort. I am now more serious about the modelling etc and have some trunking and relay boxes as I wanted to get them down before I ballasted. My dilemma now is whether to solder my droppers to the fishplates before I ballast. My soldering iron hasn't arrived yet and I want to get on with it. I am worried about doing it first as I don't want to be able to see the soldering. What are your thoughts?
Ben Tompkinson Solder before ballasting and weathering.
+DaveClass47. Thanks Dave. I will do that! I have just finished my station layout. Do you have somewhere I can send you a pic? I'd like to get your feedback if you wouldn't mind
Ben Tompkinson hi, the grey colour I use for relay boxes....Humbrol Satin 166. I have used Matt 28 as well. Cheers
Looks really good :D
Ok thanks that's just all three mixed together?
yup, mixed in different shades depending on my requirements.
I would like to see how much powder you mixed together?
Less than a penny sized pile of each is more than enough. Not a lot is required.
I've had a look and can't find it is there a product code or can you attach a link to the right product please
+Daniel Brooks Just Google. Here's a link www.humbrol.com/uk-en/49-acrylic-varnish-matt-150ml-spray-varnish.html
Dave, where did you get the girders?
The are available at most railway retailers. They are made by Wills - see the Peco website as they are all part of the same company! I got a pack from ebay and then another couple of packs from Hattons online shop www.ehattons.com - They are really impressive and easy and quick to build up. Peco also do a version of their very own, which also look good, but probably suitable for shorter spans.
DaveClass47
Thanks for that Dave. Order submitted to Hattons.
Great, they are so easy to build and take a painted finish well. I used two packs for the girders.
Girders turned up today.
Great...get to work! lol
It's taken two years to get that far as I work away a lot but if I can help you in anyway Dave I will cheers now bye
Its not a race after all, may as well take your time and get it right, which you are! Its taken me 18 months to do my layout to this stage, I 'hope' to finish the station by Christmas! But no set time scale on it, I just work away as and when I can! Work and family take priority!