I want to see the latency between the G2 footage and the navigation camera that you're using to fly. I insist that it should be possible to use that G2's SDI feed for navigation. Keep up the good work btw. It looks outstanding.
You could use the sdi output to fly with if you had to but it would require a transmission system like DJI Transmission. You couldn't use the goggles and literally nobody would or should do this because it is untested and not designed for doing this, No gain from doing this neither when we have such good fpv systems.
@@Bludz Oh, do we have good fpv systems with better low light sensitivity than a speed boosted m43 camera? Wow. Those tiny cell phone analogue sensors have come a long way. Now we can even defy the laws of physics!
Thanks man, this setup doesn't provide a live view of what the G2 sees, I'm only seeing what the drone see in my FPV goggles. There are devices like the new DJI SDT Transmission that can be used to transmit the live video. Here's an unlisted test I have done with it, th-cam.com/video/YAKqbxiU47w/w-d-xo.html
One thing i see in movies that use drones for establishing shots is they always do a sharp cut the the next shot as the camera never slowls down. Can you show an example of the camera whoop slowing down to a stop while keeping the horizon locked, or near locked?
@@Bludz @2:20 in this video where the camera goes from the side of the futbol pitch to over the tree tops is the kind of shot that would be used in a movie, especially if there was a castle or something behind the trees. I wonder if you could slow down and stop once you clear the trees and keep the shot looking smooth. Thanks for your reply.
I see what you mean. Yea, I could stop and hold at any point. Position holding is quite hard to do unless you set the drone up to do that, mine is not so I would manually hold position. You can build them to use GPS and hold position like a DJI drone, but not something I have done myself yet.
@@Bludz thanks for your reply, Sir. WHat you say make sense your type of drone has to keep moving and most people d0o not train to stop or maybe turn on a gps model just ofr that part of the flight. Tenks!
Not that silly really, I wondered the same thing. I'm pretty sure it cannot playback the footage, no mention of it in the manual. You will need to plug into a computer.
I'm curious about the data related components you're using, from usb c cables to ssd enclosure and ssd model, could you provide links to those in your description please?
The gyro still has issues but I did a slightly better job with gyroflow this time and the mount works a lot better than the resin printed one I used last time. The result is definately better. As for the low light, I kind of think it was just me not exposing enough, I'll get out again when it is not full sunlight and see if I can get better results.
@@Bludzyou can definitely expose to the right and pull it down in post, especially because you’re shooting BRAW. so don’t be afraid of overexposure in low light, that camera sensor is too small to worry about that
@@CartyCantDance Thanks man, I thin kI was a bit thrown by not getting the same results using the same settings as my pocket 4k, but I'm noticing quite a few minor differences like that.
Thanks man. I do plan on releasing it along with the adjustable mount. The mount is available on the websiet now, but I have not finished the battery bay design yet, bit too bust at the mo but should be able to soon.
this is pretty awesome, Im honestly considering getting this camera instead of using my komodo. keen to know if you will be selling the battery bay / SSD drive mount with the power distribution on your website! :)
Hi. Well I don't think the quality will really compare but in terms of how well it flies on a drone it will be night and day. Komodo is a fat boi. Check the description for a link to the mount, battery bay will be coming soon, I've still got some testing to do over the next couple of weeks.
Again, awesome . . . I was thinking about getting this camera for this exact thing and got mine late last week after seeing you do this. Unfortunately I am having a bit of rolling shutter issue. I typically do 60fps with f125 (or f120) and it takes care of the problem. Your footage has none of that, would you mind sharing the camera settings you used? It would be a great help. Thanks!
Thanks dude. Sorry to hear you are having issues. F120? Do you mean shutter at 1/120? I use degrees not angle. 60fps at 1/120 I think is 180 degree shutter. I find this to produce to much motion blur on a drone, even a slow one. Usually I use 120 degrees on my slower cinewhoop and 90 degrees on my faster drone as it creates plenty of motion blur with the fast movement. Are you running your footage through Gyroflow? My footage has been and it has rolling shutter correction built in, so I never notice it.
Ahh that might be it, thanks. I will change to angle and try that. It def has some motion blur. I’m doing 5:1, and yep I meant 1/120. Will try yours and let you know. By the way, any idea when your mount might be out? It could also be my mount without enough dampening.
Btw, I did run it thru GF but the rolling shutter was so bad it didn’t remove it. Also I’m starting to get flashing footage even though I’m using a recommended drive. Anyhow…thanks again though!
@@Bludz Thankyou! I am comparing it with the kd50S, both look nice in my opinion. But really hard decision for my indoor flights haha. Love the small size.
@@JelmerFPV they are essentially the same footprint. I didn't use five inch props because they don't have as much thrust as five bladed four inch props, so I don't think the kd50s would have as much power if I'm honest. I love flying the Kali, the noise is really low so you can push the pids high which is what you need on these cinewhoops.
@@JelmerFPV the setup I use in this video is the same as my BNF Kali, and hovering is around 45-55%. I've actually developed a modification that makes flying the G2 much better. Basically allows you to bottom mount the battery and put the camera right in the middle for better balance. It does fly a bit nicer. This isn't a problem with naked cameras, the G2 is quite front heavy.
Nicely done! I've been thinking about building a smaller cinelifter to run this very camera when Blackmagic released it! Serves as a damned good entry level competitor to rigging full video cameras onboard, but wasn't expecting a 4" to handle it so well :) Is the footage straight out of camera..? Could look even better with a little colour correction :)
Blackmagic have sample footage on their website. This 300g studio camera won't compare to an Arri, but check out the Blackmagic 6K Full Frame, it's amazing what they have given us for £2k.
I wondered about it but really I think that will only add weight and no other benefit. What do you thin that would be good for? I was thinking about something similar but made out of carbon but after testing this I can confirm it doesn't need a cage to keep the camera secured to the drone well.
@@BludzI will try this cam on my cinelifter. It’s my first cinelifter flight. What settings should I use in cam? Base ISO 400. 60 fps and ND with 1/120? What aperture and focus setting did you use?
@@sickshots 400 ISO 30FPS 90 - 120 degree shutter angle (I don't use shutter speed, it is shit). WB to suit the light, apature in the middle around 5-8, infinity focus and use ND filters to set exposure.
If by doing the same job you mean fly around a boring field for footage to put on TH-cam then yea, a GoPro would be fine. This camera and setup will be used by people who are much better at using them than me. People who shoot professionally can't always use GoPro because in the world of TV and film, GoPro footage is a joke. I know that a lot of the time my own footage isn't much better, but by someone who is better at using it than me it always will look better.
the bmmsc is leaps and bounds ahead of a go pro in terms of picture quality and dynamic range. This test footage isnt the best example of it (fairly harsh lighting conditions and a bit overexposed with youtube compression on top of it). Also good luck convincing any director that your gopro footage will look great next to their RED/ARRI footage when this camera shoots in BRAW with a ton of flexibility and can easily pump out an image that can be graded back to back witih RED footage. For less then twice the price as a gopro and less then double the weight, this thing is a game changer for the cinematic FPV world imo. Hyped to see some more info on these plates/mounting system for the bmmsc and will for sure snag up a Kali to build up once you offer up a kit with the new plate @bludz!
Thanks man, I agree totally. Should have the first production batch of the camera mount today and will try and get it added to the website over the weekend.
Just saying that for such a bigger camera with a longer lens it is easier to break if you crash ...and costs alot more to replace than the go pro....as long as you don't take chances with flying crazy then ok...but I race with my quadcopter and have crashed into the other racers and have crashed into air gates ,trees,and the ground going quite fast...I have broken one of my go pro cameras and that put me out 399.00 dollars so like I said if you don't fly as crazy as my self racing then sure use what you got.😊😊😊
I knew it wouldn't be long before these cams starting flying!
Yea man, I first flew mine on Christmas eve, but the weather has been shit until recently :) It is not bad at all.
Great video and your frame is bang on what I've been looking for
Thanks a lot man, glad you like it.
Yusss. Love flying this camera. Looks great!
Yea man, it's pretty good, and now a little bit better.
You are an amazing pilot, in my opinion!
Wow, thanks!
wooowww so nice,this is what im waiting for,smooth flying bro
Thanks a lot dude :)
Hi m8 that Kali frame looks clean. Nice to see you still producing great content hope it's going well for you.
Hey man, thanks. Yea, I'm still at it :)
Amazing drone, fly like a ruler! Smooth and straing like a miniwhoop
I like that.... fly like a ruler, hahahahah. Thanks a lot man.
You just got another subscriber. We use these cameras and think they are great, and hankering to get into FPVs too LOL!
Thanks man, it's a great little camera for sure. Thanks for the sub :)
Brilliant work. I need see more
Thanks man, should have more coming soon.
Amazing work
Thank you :)
I want to see the latency between the G2 footage and the navigation camera that you're using to fly. I insist that it should be possible to use that G2's SDI feed for navigation. Keep up the good work btw. It looks outstanding.
You could use the sdi output to fly with if you had to but it would require a transmission system like DJI Transmission. You couldn't use the goggles and literally nobody would or should do this because it is untested and not designed for doing this, No gain from doing this neither when we have such good fpv systems.
@@Bludz Oh, do we have good fpv systems with better low light sensitivity than a speed boosted m43 camera? Wow. Those tiny cell phone analogue sensors have come a long way. Now we can even defy the laws of physics!
hhhhmmmm
@@Bludz 🥰
Can you share the raw video for this? I would love to do a color breakdown
Sorry this was over a year ago and I have no way of supplying such large files.
Great setup, How do you control the camera? How do you see what the camera captures from the ground?
Thanks man, this setup doesn't provide a live view of what the G2 sees, I'm only seeing what the drone see in my FPV goggles. There are devices like the new DJI SDT Transmission that can be used to transmit the live video. Here's an unlisted test I have done with it, th-cam.com/video/YAKqbxiU47w/w-d-xo.html
One thing i see in movies that use drones for establishing shots is they always do a sharp cut the the next shot as the camera never slowls down. Can you show an example of the camera whoop slowing down to a stop while keeping the horizon locked, or near locked?
Can't find an example where I do that but sometimes I fly up to things and just hover on the spot for a few seconds before flying off.
@@Bludz @2:20 in this video where the camera goes from the side of the futbol pitch to over the tree tops is the kind of shot that would be used in a movie, especially if there was a castle or something behind the trees. I wonder if you could slow down and stop once you clear the trees and keep the shot looking smooth. Thanks for your reply.
I see what you mean. Yea, I could stop and hold at any point. Position holding is quite hard to do unless you set the drone up to do that, mine is not so I would manually hold position. You can build them to use GPS and hold position like a DJI drone, but not something I have done myself yet.
@@Bludz thanks for your reply, Sir. WHat you say make sense your type of drone has to keep moving and most people d0o not train to stop or maybe turn on a gps model just ofr that part of the flight. Tenks!
I just got my g2 aswell and i have one silly question. How do you playback the footage from the camera?
Not that silly really, I wondered the same thing. I'm pretty sure it cannot playback the footage, no mention of it in the manual. You will need to plug into a computer.
You can't yet. Not sure if they are adding it.
the quality from this is really surprising for such a small package
Yes I agree, Not really anything out there of this size that can compare really.
Nice. Was that stabilized in post?
Yes it was, with Gyroflow :) Not perfect but not terrible
@@Bludz looks great 👍🏻. What motors you running on your Kali?
I run the same setup I sell as a BNF, F60 T Motor.
Also, what gyro data did you use to help stabilize it in Gyroflow?
@@wolfefpv the camera sends gyro data too
I'm curious about the data related components you're using, from usb c cables to ssd enclosure and ssd model, could you provide links to those in your description please?
Hi. I created my own SSD drive bay, you can see more details and order here halorc.com/products/professional/LP-E6-SSD/
Can the Blackmagic Micro Studio 4K G2 save gyrodata in braw?
Yes, I stabilised the footage in this video.
Looks like gyros working better now? How about the issue with low light you had last time? Thanks for great channel 💫
The gyro still has issues but I did a slightly better job with gyroflow this time and the mount works a lot better than the resin printed one I used last time. The result is definately better. As for the low light, I kind of think it was just me not exposing enough, I'll get out again when it is not full sunlight and see if I can get better results.
@@Bludzyou can definitely expose to the right and pull it down in post, especially because you’re shooting BRAW. so don’t be afraid of overexposure in low light, that camera sensor is too small to worry about that
@@CartyCantDance Thanks man, I thin kI was a bit thrown by not getting the same results using the same settings as my pocket 4k, but I'm noticing quite a few minor differences like that.
The back battery try is crazy good, do plan to relase/sell the plans or the product?
Thanks man. I do plan on releasing it along with the adjustable mount. The mount is available on the websiet now, but I have not finished the battery bay design yet, bit too bust at the mo but should be able to soon.
Has blackmagic released an update to fix the gyro yet?
They have not fixed it yet
this is pretty awesome, Im honestly considering getting this camera instead of using my komodo. keen to know if you will be selling the battery bay / SSD drive mount with the power distribution on your website! :)
Hi. Well I don't think the quality will really compare but in terms of how well it flies on a drone it will be night and day. Komodo is a fat boi. Check the description for a link to the mount, battery bay will be coming soon, I've still got some testing to do over the next couple of weeks.
Again, awesome . . . I was thinking about getting this camera for this exact thing and got mine late last week after seeing you do this. Unfortunately I am having a bit of rolling shutter issue. I typically do 60fps with f125 (or f120) and it takes care of the problem. Your footage has none of that, would you mind sharing the camera settings you used? It would be a great help.
Thanks!
Thanks dude. Sorry to hear you are having issues. F120? Do you mean shutter at 1/120? I use degrees not angle. 60fps at 1/120 I think is 180 degree shutter. I find this to produce to much motion blur on a drone, even a slow one. Usually I use 120 degrees on my slower cinewhoop and 90 degrees on my faster drone as it creates plenty of motion blur with the fast movement.
Are you running your footage through Gyroflow? My footage has been and it has rolling shutter correction built in, so I never notice it.
Ahh that might be it, thanks. I will change to angle and try that. It def has some motion blur. I’m doing 5:1, and yep I meant 1/120. Will try yours and let you know. By the way, any idea when your mount might be out? It could also be my mount without enough dampening.
Btw, I did run it thru GF but the rolling shutter was so bad it didn’t remove it. Also I’m starting to get flashing footage even though I’m using a recommended drive. Anyhow…thanks again though!
You still prefer the alphagels rather than hardmounting it?
I think so yea, hardmounting can lead to issues with the gyro data and with naked cameras the card can disconnect itself.
Would love to see this from someone who can actually colorgrade and compare it to a gopro so I would see the advantage.. nice vid tho
Yea, thanks.
Has the gyro data been fixed on this?
No updates since release :(
What is the Amper output of the 12V BEC, that you are using to power the camera?
3amps. I don't think it is a great option if you intend to use 22volts or more, they keep popping on me and it sends full voltage out the other end.
Seems no more need the tear apart a camera to make a "naked" version for flying.
If you are happy with 4K then you could be right, although this Studio camera is a bit awkward to adjust the settings.
Do you think I can add a DJI SDR on this drone?
If you are happy with a couple of minutes flight time you could.
@@Bludz Thankyou! I am comparing it with the kd50S, both look nice in my opinion. But really hard decision for my indoor flights haha. Love the small size.
@@JelmerFPV they are essentially the same footprint. I didn't use five inch props because they don't have as much thrust as five bladed four inch props, so I don't think the kd50s would have as much power if I'm honest. I love flying the Kali, the noise is really low so you can push the pids high which is what you need on these cinewhoops.
@@Bludz sounds great! And what is your throttle percentage for hovering this setup?
@@JelmerFPV the setup I use in this video is the same as my BNF Kali, and hovering is around 45-55%. I've actually developed a modification that makes flying the G2 much better. Basically allows you to bottom mount the battery and put the camera right in the middle for better balance. It does fly a bit nicer. This isn't a problem with naked cameras, the G2 is quite front heavy.
OMG!! Brilliant!! 😮😮❤❤
Thanks dude
Nicely done! I've been thinking about building a smaller cinelifter to run this very camera when Blackmagic released it! Serves as a damned good entry level competitor to rigging full video cameras onboard, but wasn't expecting a 4" to handle it so well :)
Is the footage straight out of camera..? Could look even better with a little colour correction :)
BRAW looks a lot different to this (so no, not straight out of the camera) and it has been stabilised.
where can i buy that smallest SSD??
Hopefully coming to my store soon, I was taking a short break.
Wery good. Do u think it could carry this camera whit a gimbal?
Hi. Glad you like my drone, it can carry around 800g of camera and lens combo. It won't be good for a gimbal.
Do you have any retailers in EU? And also i was looking at your website for this configuration of camera.
Either direct from us in the UK or DroneIt in Sweden :)
what the lens is
Laowa 7.5mm :)
Brilliant work! I’m a colorist and regularly color commercials & films- would love to see how the footage holds up against sony/arri/red footage.
Blackmagic have sample footage on their website. This 300g studio camera won't compare to an Arri, but check out the Blackmagic 6K Full Frame, it's amazing what they have given us for £2k.
This camera is a Pocket 4K with a better IR filter.
You should get a cage for the camera. XLCS.
I wondered about it but really I think that will only add weight and no other benefit. What do you thin that would be good for? I was thinking about something similar but made out of carbon but after testing this I can confirm it doesn't need a cage to keep the camera secured to the drone well.
Wow! You are a legend! It made me feel a bit anxious at the take off but It handled the weight well. What motors are you using on the 4inch cinewhoop?
Thanks man, I really love how this setup can carry all that weight so well. T Motor F60 1950kv with Gemfan D45 props is the best combo I have found.
Hi. Is it possible to share your Gyroflow Lens Profile??
I just used the Pocket 4K profile for the same resolution and lens, as they are the same thing effectively.
@@BludzI will try this cam on my cinelifter. It’s my first cinelifter flight. What settings should I use in cam? Base ISO 400. 60 fps and ND with 1/120? What aperture and focus setting did you use?
@@sickshots 400 ISO 30FPS 90 - 120 degree shutter angle (I don't use shutter speed, it is shit). WB to suit the light, apature in the middle around 5-8, infinity focus and use ND filters to set exposure.
@@Bludz Perfect! Thanks! So shutter angle was my fault. I’ve got 180 because this should be 1/60. But this makes my footage too creamy.
@@sickshots Yea, 180 degrees is going to be quite blurry. I like 120, or 90 if I'm going fast.
Seems to me a go pro and play with the settings would do the same job...with less weight...
If by doing the same job you mean fly around a boring field for footage to put on TH-cam then yea, a GoPro would be fine. This camera and setup will be used by people who are much better at using them than me. People who shoot professionally can't always use GoPro because in the world of TV and film, GoPro footage is a joke. I know that a lot of the time my own footage isn't much better, but by someone who is better at using it than me it always will look better.
the bmmsc is leaps and bounds ahead of a go pro in terms of picture quality and dynamic range. This test footage isnt the best example of it (fairly harsh lighting conditions and a bit overexposed with youtube compression on top of it). Also good luck convincing any director that your gopro footage will look great next to their RED/ARRI footage when this camera shoots in BRAW with a ton of flexibility and can easily pump out an image that can be graded back to back witih RED footage. For less then twice the price as a gopro and less then double the weight, this thing is a game changer for the cinematic FPV world imo. Hyped to see some more info on these plates/mounting system for the bmmsc and will for sure snag up a Kali to build up once you offer up a kit with the new plate @bludz!
Thanks man, I agree totally. Should have the first production batch of the camera mount today and will try and get it added to the website over the weekend.
let me know if you need any help
With what?
Just saying that for such a bigger camera with a longer lens it is easier to break if you crash ...and costs alot more to replace than the go pro....as long as you don't take chances with flying crazy then ok...but I race with my quadcopter and have crashed into the other racers and have crashed into air gates ,trees,and the ground going quite fast...I have broken one of my go pro cameras and that put me out 399.00 dollars so like I said if you don't fly as crazy as my self racing then sure use what you got.😊😊😊
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