My thoughts on the release of the 991.2 911
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- My thoughts on the release of the 991.2 and my likely configuration.
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Great video Nick! I love the new looks, the rear especially with the new tail lights, sport exhaust and engine grill. The graphite blue is my favorite color too, I think it's perfect for this car!
+subaruwrxfan Thanks Matt, yes I am back and forth on the color, I am even considering a custom dark green. Like those green cars : )
+Nick Murray, I actually like the Graphite Blue but I think it might be something you'd want to see in person before getting it. Decisions! Decisions! :D
These videos are (what I assume) the easiest to make on your channel, but they're always really pleasurable to watch. I enjoy how you go through all the options and explain why you like/dislike them and which you are planning on getting.
not a quick little video at 26 mins, haha
+Jared Rosenholtz True
Hahaha I was gonna say exactly that! Brilliant
This wasn't a boring video, Nick. It was awesome. I love that shade of blue.
+Vincent Gambini, oh I did not mean boring! he just said quick in the beginning, which is funny because its 26 minutes
I don't think you have to worry about losing the quad exhaust. I think the center mounted exhaust looks fantastic and really exotic.
few things nick
would love to help you order this car, as I work at a Porsche dealership.
1) sports chrono with manual gives u a few things - dynamic engine mounts - which eliminates drivetrain slop during shifts and when you take turns at higher g's. you also get rev matching.
2) sports plus button is now on a Mannetino on the steering wheel.
3) the wheel hop has to do with the tire compound and alignment - not the suspension geometry
Let's do it!
+pksangavaram Thanks for the heads up
for 130,000 i would get a bone stock GT3. won't have all the cool options but its such a pure drivers car.
+Veyronp87 They are like chalk and cheese so I am told! Im with you though. GT3 all the way (although id be reluctant to get the 991)
+Michael Goodwin 997 gt3. :D
+Veyronp87 i could be wrong but i believe there is still a pretty long waiting list for the GT3, used ones are selling over new price here in the UK
+Veyronp87 The GT3 is a limited run of about 500 cars, buying a 'second hand' now, will set you back almost 1/4 more of the price if you'd bought it yourself from a dealer...
You are right, there are more, I don't know how many but they are expensive, no doubt...
You're the only You tuber I can watch for half an hour talking about car options and not get board, great video. Can't wait to see the car when you get it. You picked some really tasteful colours and options. I'm with you on carbon fiber anything, has always stuck me as a bit tacky or borderline childish.
+FSFLIGHTproductions Thanks buddy!
Love these options videos. Always get confused looking at the configurator but you dropped great knowledge here for us. Great stuff
yellow actually looks great on the 911.
+minibus1351 My 2014 Cayman S is yellow with Carrera Classic wheels, and it turns heads everywhere I go. :)
+PLAY_HRD Yellow is a Cayman color, not so much a 911 color...
Yea the 991 pulls it off well. Same with the corvette stingray
+minibus1351 Got to agree with you. I saw a 991 4S Cabriolet in speed yellow the other day and I thought it looked very smart. However I think personally I would choose a colour like Agate grey or a like and stay more inconspicuous.
The most annoying part about your videos is when you excuse the length of them! Your videos are the best Porsche videos out there! one can learn so much from them, don't make them shorter!! When you talk about steering column in leather, then that's what really helps and inspires us all. Thanks for your efforts and all the information.
+uiaiui More LONG reviews coming your way : )
The video was not boring in any way. Thanks for sharing :) And great idea to pick the car up in Zuffenhausen. I visited two months ago and was blown away by the atmosphere and their museum! The Porsche museum is a must :) Thanks again for all your videos. Much appreciated
I for one really enjoyed it, even as someone who is not looking in the price range of the 911. It's interesting to hear your opinions on which options are and are not worth the generally exorbitant prices that Porsche charges.
If I was lucky enough to be able to order a new 911, I'd get the Miami Blue with the Glass Room and Gloss Black styling Package if available. That will look amazing.
Good luck with your move Nick. Exciting times for you with the new car too. Interesting to hear your thoughts on the new model. I almost bought a Macan this week but my heart is well and truly with the 911. I look forward to following your journey over the next few months. All the best.
Hi Nick - thanks for this. I'm looking at buying a 991.2 soon (my first Porsche) and found your run through of the configurator to be very helpful. I especially appreciated your thoughts about which options were worth the money and which ones weren't. Keep it up. You're good at this.
Hey Nick, I don't think the configurator is wrong for the sport chrono package. They moved the sport and sport plus buttons to the steering wheel, just like the 918. I think the rotary dial looks fantastic and they even added a sport response button which maximizes the straight line performance for 15 seconds? I could be wrong here. Anyways, I think that's a decent reason to tick sport chrono package.
+Tian Xu (swein1900) Ahhh yes you might be right!!
You got to get the Sport suspension bc of the front lip looks fantastic
Nick, I agree with you regarding the "double banger" headlights. The single eye looks much better than the double eye per socket.
I am very much looking forward to you being back in a 911.
I myself am in love with the Miami blue, reminds me of the riviera blue (think thats what they called it) which was always my favorite color on the last gen gt3.
I have spent many hours on the old configurator! I would chose a white exterior with the Graphite blue interior!! :) Way too addictive that thing. Can't wait to see your review of the orange one! Orange and light blue would be the only other colours I would consider. cheers.
Not long and boring. Long and interesting. Loved it!
The pic for sport chrono is not wrong. The buttons are now on a dial on the steering wheel.
Hi Nick,enjoyed the video and Im looking forward to your whole European pickup experience in the coming year of your 911:)
Also the graphite blue is AMAZINF
Nick, I saw the Graphite Blue 991.2 at the Chicago Auto Show. The color looks even better in person, especially with the Platinum Satin Carrera S wheels. It's gonna be hard to beat your old 991 though, that was a great build as well.
Nick have you thought about going to the aftermarket for an exhaust system that retains the 4 exhaust tips and gives you the sound of the factory sport exhaust?
I love that new steering wheel!! Very cool and by far the best looking one to date. I always wondered what the European delivery was but never gave it much since I thought it was for the people who ordered it out of the U.S. Silly me!! I will definitely be looking forward to that video. Awesome video as always Nick! Take care.
Glad to see you are looking forward to the new 991.2. Very excited for you :)
Hi Nick, not boring at all. Great explanation of the options. Looking forward to seeing your pick-up and driving around the Ring. If I win the Euromillions lottery before you go I am coming with you to get mine too :) Keep up the great work!!
I'm surprised that the new engines are heavier, but can't wait for your new 911!!! Get the RWD
We definitely have different taste but I'm glad you're sticking to the 911! I absolutely love my 911s. I was wondering, would you consider the GTS? I remember you said you didn't like it, but the new S looks so much like the old GTS. The new front end looks exactly like the 991.1 sport design fascia (that you get standard in the GTS) and it even has the black rear air vent. I have the GTS Cab, and I would definitely recommend it (Minus alcantara of course). So would you consider it at all?
I love Nick's videos as well and I do hope he's going to be more lucky this time with his new P. Good think he didn't choose the fire extinguisher option.. Let it burn to the ground if it has to :p I will agree on everything you said about the new GTS and for me it's an extra plus the fact it's the last and most powerful NA stick P money can buy and it should keep its value over the years. I got the last allocation of my dealership in Las Vegas. I am also supporting the deviating stitching however if you see in person the two tone leather black red, it looks so classy and sporty at the same time! Thank you for the great video Nick.
maverick1715 Yeah I agree. I like the red seat belts, carbon fiber trim, illuminated tread plates, black wheels, led headlights, pretty much all of what Nick supposedly doesn't like.. My old S Cabriolet had the Sport Techno wheels like his old S, and they looked amazing. The GTS (especially RWD) is a lot of fun.
+Charlie Long I personally love all of the GTS touches! My dream 911 is a 991 C4 GTS Coupé with the manual in either Carmine or a P.T.S. pearl red. Manual gearbox for fun and all wheel drive for extra grip and all-year usability.
I really enjoyed your presentation and the rationale for your choice of options
You have to go for the LED headlights, so much brighter and more distinctive than Xenon's when driving at night. (Similar to the jump from halogen to xenon bulbs) I also heard PASM is now standard, even on the "base" 911.
I played around the configurator before watching your video and apart from the LED headlights my configuration is exactly the same as you lol
If you go to Stuttgart to pick it up, you should a meet and greet.
Nick, would you ever consider doing an aftermarket exhaust on the car if you wanted a more sporty exhaust while keeping the quad tailpipes?
The redesigned front bumper of the 991.2 makes the front of the car remind me of the 997.2 front.
twin tailpipes look ace imo, four pipes are a bit of a showoff
glad you are doing so well to buy a new house and a Porsche. I hope when I'm done school I can get to that level. The only thing I don't get is your aversion to flashy colors. it's a sports car, my favorite color on the 911 is yellow, or the purple gt3rs!
Was worth watching till the end for the European delivery announcement. Very excited to watch you in your hopefully "gremlin" free 911 on the Autobahn. Oh and I picked wood in my Cayenne and really happy with the warm not plastic look. So is the M4 being sold to make room for your new baby?
"A bit of a long and boring video." You know, you're not wrong, but I still watched all of it. I'm only 24 and I have a 2013 WRX which pushes my budget now, but I hope I can afford cars like the M4 or maybe even an Aston when I'm in my mid 30's/early 40's. Despite all the waffle waffle I enjoyed the video, thanks for posting Nick.
Sapphire Blue is Gorgeous. The Graphite Blue just looks muddy and dull in real life.
You do get the sport and sport plus button on the right corner of the steering wheel with sport chrono package, just like the one on the 918 Spyder.
+kqian0526 Yes indeed, my mistake
Even though it's way out of my league I enjoyed this.
Beware. If the aluminium trim is anything like BMWs it will scratch really easily.
The price just keep on increasing lol Porsche's options never disappoint
The moved 0, Sport, S+ and I in the 918 Style Wheel.
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Hi Nick, I am of the same opinion as Charlie Long and think the new 991.2 looks like the GTS 991.1 I own as well. I am so pleased with my model and wouldn't want the new models engine but would love to have that new steering wheel in my GTS. I really am not a fan of the brushed aluminium you are considering, I have had it in my last two Audis S5 & SQ5 which I use as my everyday car and this is a base standard option which I feel looks cheap and tacky and scratches quite easily. I really look forward to seeing your configurator when you decide to proceed with the new model. I have already been offered good money from my local dealership for my 4 GTS to consider the new model when it's actually released as I've only covered 1000 miles in mine.
That white gts is the most awesome looking car I have ever seen. Thumbs up!
Sport Chrono adds the auto throttle blip function in sport plus mode. So not completely useless to get it with the manual.
I think there are no sport and sport plus buttons in the center console because those are now selcted via the mode switch on the steering wheel.
Hi Nick, nice video... Best of luck with your new toy, can't wait to see!!! Porsche rules
Yellow 911 actually looks good in real life IMO.
Hello Nick. Another great video! Thanks for putting in the time and energy. Do you think you will get the Adaptive Cruise Control?
Think a few others might have said it, but when you spec the sport chrono package now the 918 style dial actually replaces the sport buttons.
+MJParker1804 Yes indeed, my mistake
Nick Murray To touch on seats I'd definitely recommend the 18 way ones, our 997 had them and they were so comfortable and held you perfectly in place, the 14 ways in our 991 are still good but definitely less supportive when cornering. Look forward to more videos!
Very intersting video, nick. I just have to say that the LEDs are so much better than the Xenons that I would not mind the looks and go for the much better technique.
It's got to be a cabrio in GT Silver with Graphite Blue interior, blue roof, grey/silver seat belts and PCCB. Sweet.
White looks great if you add white wheels and red interior stitching with the dark front headlights👌🏼
+Oscar L. Say no to drugs.
Great video Nick! Wasn't boring at all! Great idea to take your car directly from Germany, althogh it will cost some money to get it back to the states!
Great video, Nick. I'm really looking forward to your European delivery coverage. Will Zuffenhausen be rolling out the red carpet for you or spitting in your coffee?
Greeting from Oz. . European delivery will be amazing! Looking forward to that vid.... Don't reckon you'll see much lag with the twin turbo..
nick
there is no sport plus button on central consol because it is displaced on steering wheel on new models
You spec totally different than i would lol. Bright red, black and beige interior, Red belts, and everything in carbon fibre ^^
+GustavLjungberg Say no to drugs : )
+Nick Murray hahahaha
What about a GTS? Are you going to let the 911 break in before your ambitious trips? How are you getting the 911 back to America? Or you could let me mind in my driveway ;)
I like the quad tips better
After getting rid of the old car, did you ever calculate all of your dealership visit fees? I'm curious to know what was spent even though I know the car was in warranty
Thought you were crazy picking that colour when I watched this video but I saw a video from Frankfurt and now I think that might be the best colour available!
can't wait nick!
Nick, when you do order your 991.2, pls share your "porsche code" especially since as you mentioned in your previous 991 vids, the deviated stitching is not available in the standard configurator. thanks!
I have a 997 c2s and never noticed the issue you mention with backing up. Interesting, i'll try to pay attention to that. By the way the center exhaust makes it look like a GT3 to me...
Nick, I'm not sure the configurator is broken since the image you saw is showing the sport button on the steering wheel per the 918 style wheel. Not sure if you have to order multifunction to get that but it's not a given that the sport button is on the console now.
+vantagesc Good point I think you are correct, my mistake.
Not boring at all! Keep up the good work!
Hi Nick! Very entertaining to see the configuration from your point of view. I never thought of that grey dial in the middle for example.
I agree with you about the engines. Could be very different from previous models but this is the way it goes. Need some boost against the Mercedes GT and all the AMGs and M4s ;)
Spending on exterior colour is worth all the money. It will stand out from the white and silver/grey cars of today. I will go for some funky Carmine Red or Lava Orange too.
Or just try some very old school aubergine, magenta or midnight purple thing. Or even better to get some old emerald green from the 964 era. That Miami Blue is also reminds me of the old 968s which I love so much.
Looking forward to hear from your new car.
+Turbolaser Whack Agree, everyone has silver or grey, get some color in your life people.
Take 2 sorry for earlier typos
Hi Nick/ thanks for such great video footage re cars, helicopters and everything else. Great hands on based information presented with great humour. Take no notice of the idiotic hate mail - people are by nature either jealous or envious...Keep up the great work my friend
Please keep us updated about your european delivery. I live next to the Ring :D
Mmmm, like some have mentioned I too have my doubts on the new 3.0 litre turbo for the new 991.2. First, the sound..seems like all new turbo engined cars have some form of engine induction noise piped to the cabin, I personally don't think it sounds as good as the mechanical cacophony of a NA engine. Secondly, with an extra two turbos, plumping and intercoolers sitting behind the rear axle, the balance of the 911, already rear heavy, may be further erroded. (On the other hand, its a smaller 3 litre engine, which should make it lighter.) And lastly, there's the dreaded turbo lag. I think I will wait for the day when they put out an engine with an electric motor driven turbo.
I wish that at some point I'll be in a position where my biggest problem of the day is how I should customize an all new Porsche 911 to suit my taste.
Hey with the interior choices maybe red would work, as originally on the Bond DB5 it came with a red body and a dark blue grey and black interior, so maybe the reverse would work here, as black and red looked rather striking when you matched them briefly in the video.
also what is the story on the headlights, as when you showed the comparison photo of the two blues next to each other, the older one looked much better in that department. like it seemed to have two bulbs, not one.
The 911 ist in the US so much cheaper than here in germany. That makes my very sad.
Looking forward to your new Porsche anyway, the color looks just awesome.
The miamiblue looks like my toothpaste (at least in the configurator).
With sport exhaust it really looks a little like Cayman - which is a great car but hey, you are buying a 911! Have you considered going with stock exhaust and after guarantee expires upgrade it to some aftermarket one? It would be cheaper and probably sound better.
Those vertical louvers in the back are awful Nick! Other than that,completely agree with you. Always love hearing your opinions; keep up the good work!
You should get a press pass and consider covering the LA Auto Show this November!
Nick - Sport Chrono will give you the throttle blip on downshift which is perhaps useful when speccing the manual?
+spence22 This is true!
You didnt tick the light package. For me it is an essential as you get all interior lights in old style light bulbs as standard.
+Johan Sjöberg True, I will get the Light package, well worth while
I am definitely getting this car (Miami blue exterior & redish interior) in 3 to 4 years once I pay off my bmw 328.
Very excited to see your new 911 when you eventually order it as well as see what the European delivery is all about. European delivery is something I definitely want to do if I ever order a Porsche (or a BMW as I've been told they offer a similar service). Quick question, how does the Bose system compare to the standard sound system in the 911? Is the difference similar to that of going from standard to bose in a C7 (current generation) Audi A6? (that's my only relevant frame of reference) Thanks, and congrats on the new house!
+Ayrton Mutagaana Yes the standard system is very weak so the Bose is a big improvement. Mostly extra midrange and low range but you can tell they hold back the power in the Bose so that the $$$ option has everything.
Nice car choice, and I like the cleaner lines of the 911 vs the GT models. One bone I have to pick w many of these car companies when it comes to options. Say you select the power seats for $2200. You don't get the standard seats which probably costs the company $1800, so really you should pay $400 for that option, NOT $2200. In other words, you don't get paid for the standard options you don't get. Minor point, but it is my beef of the day.....
+John LeGresley You are quite right. Porsche grossly over charge for all their options. $285 for color cap on the wheels, we know that is a 10c item.
Can you demonstrate the noise when reversing with full lock in a future video?
I enjoyed that. I don't watch all you stuff but I do subscribe and those selected few videos that I do view are well done and informative. However, did you say you were "broke" (due to purchase of a home) in which case you'd have to put off buying a $130k car later in the year? Oh, come on! That's not broke. While you are counting your blessings (and gaining some perspective) I will look forward to more Porsche and BMW insight. Thanks.
Nick! As always, love the videos and appreciate your feedback on a few of these options (helping my mom configure a Macan S ) - in your case don't you feel the PCCB Brakes are worth the 8k when it comes to resale value?
No that would be snuck cost. A 2 year old 911 with CCB next to the same car without is about 1k more
Hi Nick, thanks for the video. A lot of good information. I got a question. Have you heard anyone order the European Delivery got a discount from dealer? If Yes, how much is the discount in general? Thanks!
Good video Nick! Damn i would sell my soul for the new 911
Hey Nick. Love your videos. What is your take on buying versus leasing an expensive cars? Which way do you feel is the best way to go.
+7652917 I think leasing is good if you have a business that can claim back part of the expense otherwise purchasing is a far more simple process and easier to work up a larger discount.
+Nick Murray Do you just pay it all at once or do you finance it? Sorry, that's kind of a louche question.
+charlesmcguffy I generally pay cash. If I can not afford to pay cash then I can not afford the car.
+Nick Murray This is why I drive a 5 year old Ford LOL! Seriously, I get so much shit for giving people who are bitching about their car payments this same advice.
That definitely seems to be the sensible thing to do!
Nick, what about GT3? Have you considered that one? Would appreciate if you do a video comparing Carrera S with GT3 from your stand point of view. 👌🏻
The Fabspeed Exhaust sounds better and flows better than the stock Porsche sport exhaust. :-)
Like the vids, Nick, keep them coming.
But have you considered the AMG GT instead. Would definitely be my choice, but then I've never liked Porkers much. :)
Hey Nick. Idk if you'll respond to this but you seem to be on top of the comments that are not ignorant and/or abusive lol so i'll give it a shot. Why not save the money while CONFIGURING your 911 and passing on the "Sport Exhaust" and getting a high quality aftermarket performance exhaust from a companies like Akrapovic, Borla, etc. that could sound even better? Even with the Wheels, you could purchase aftermarket wheels from Avant Garde, HRE, etc. that look similar or better than the ones on your previous 911 at the same price (or more/less) that are lighter and give you a personal and custom look?...
This is a good point and I am looking at some of these options. Thanks for the comment.
Can't wait for you to do the European delivery and watch the video. Should just create a fund so we can all donate to you so you'll be able to get the 911.2 sooner!
+Kenzo Chin That is very kind of you to offer, I just would not feel right about taking donations from my viewers. You guys do your part just watching my videos and supporting my channel.
Ya maybe wanna wait a bit for Hans and Franz to sort the kinks out. First year production issues are known to sour the ownership experience. The color you chose however is rather disappointing. Get the any of the Reds with matching interior or the tan. Moving on go with 2wd and get a Subaru winter unit to suck up the road salt and winter nasties . Good choice on the manual transmission I have one in my new M3. Remember reducing complexity increases reliability. Pick your options carefully to save dough and reduce potential headaches.
Hey Nick you live if you live in Fairfield county CT it could be worse you could live in E. Granby talk about snow.
"Drive high speed on Autobahn", with a new car? Do they recommend that?
Excellent video Nick, as someone just getting into specing what will be my first Porsche I found a few items on the configurator confusing. Your attention to detail and honest feedback was very helpful. I am considering a C4 because I live in Ontario Canada and we get 2 or 3 good snow storms a winter. However here it is a $10k upgrade from the base (rear wheel) Carrera. I see you are in New England and didn't buy the 4s last time. Curious how your experience was and if you now think the 4 is worth the extra money over the rear wheel drive in a wintery climate?
+Chad McBain There is no question that the 4S will give you more get up and go in wet/snow conditions, the mistake a lot of 4S owners seem to make is leaving summer or all weather tires on their cars and wonder why they have such a bad experience. Snow tires on either a C2 or C4 make all the difference as you know and for the two most important maneuvers; turning and stopping where having AWD makes little or no difference. Because the weight of the car is over the driven wheels and those wheels have clever diff locks on them the C2 911 is surprisingly great in the snow. Certainly much better than my M4 or most any other 2 wheel drive car I have driven. Personally I am still considering a C4S for my next car to experience what the AWD and I have been reassured by many C4S owners that they are just as much fun but personally I doubt that I always leave with a bigger smile after driving the C2S but that is just me.
+Nick Murray Thanks...great points. I run snows now on my 20 inch rims now, so I get your point. Hey just curious but if you are ever bored go to the Porsche Canada site and spec out a Carrera 4 Black Edition. It seems to be a better value then the standard Carrera 4, all be it is only available in black lol. I don't think it is available stateside but they are throwing a few goodies at it as standard as well as the only naturally aspirated engine still available in the lineup. Thanks Nick, I appreciate your videos :)
is there is any information about the date of release of the turbo S version of the 991.2 ?
Why do you dislike yellow 911's? I understand that not everyone wants such an extroverted color, but I think they look fantastic. I think silver on black is always timeless for a 911. I agree with you about the dark wheels - cant stand them.
+azaz911c I have a friend with a yellow 911, it is an assault on my eyes : ) Love to give him shit about it.