Jeep Liberty: No Start / No Crank
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- In this video I look at a Jeep Liberty that was dragged in with a no crank condition. It came from a local shop and they had made the call on the ignition switch. Let's have a quick look before slamming any parts on it. -Enjoy!
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Sadly the new DeWALT DCL050 light worked well for the job, it is not "camera friendly." The flicker did not show up until I was editing. It makes the frame rate look really slow. Thought I'd throw this up here before I got thousands of comments. Guess I'll be throwing it on the back burner in future vids. Good thing DeWALT is #notasponsor...
I thought Napa was your sponsor lol
The frame rate didn't bother me. I just hate the color. Too much blue, not enough red.
Anyone who complains about the minor light flicker due to refresh/frame rate can kick rocks. It ain't that big of a deal and it ain't a problem IMO. We are here to watch your process & procedures not to worry about "oh no the light is flickering waah waah waah". 🤦♀️🤣
Keep on keepin on, Eric & SMA.👍😊
Oh Relief, I thought my Monitor was on the way out!
Lots of LED lights of various types have that effect with cameras. Not a big deal but I never noticed it with the Astro lights.
That shimmer on the light is the pulse width modulation used to control the intensity. The Astro light uses a linear technique so there's no flicker at all.
To the kind man in this video, this is what was wrong with my no start Jeep Liberty. Thank you for saving the day from a miserable and costly bill at the jeep stealership. God bless you and your family
"I can steal anything with the key" Love the SMA humor. Thanks Eric and Marie!
Amazing how quick you can diagnose the problem that other shops can’t. You make repairs so quick and easy, makes it look like kids play.. THAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
Ohhh... no thumbs down. Scotty must be sleeping in... Great vid Eric O!
Unfortunately scotty must've came in.... theres now two dislikes
Scotty must of hit the dislike while he was staggering
@GM Kof hard that's odd.. it showed two for me
GM Kof hard Scotty hates Jeeps and all FCA cars. He’s like a complaining gold man, never happy unless he’s bitching. I always give his videos a dislike after watching a minute or two.
@@Dave-lm3th How? He's an idiot. 😂
Appreciate the troubleshooting steps. In the end I had the exact same problem, but it was nice to have a bit more confidence before pulling the ignition apart.
I have an '05 and waiting for you to diagnose what sounds like a front wheel bearing, 4X4, but after replacing noise still there. Love your diagnosis, and speed at which you go after it. Helps save the customer money on labor considering it is more then the part on this fix. Unbelievable the engineering that goes into a simple start switch.
Ball joints mostly. Check them very well, or loose a tire.
Nice to see you miss Marie! You were in rare form in this video. Speaking as someone old enough to be your grandfather or just about, the young man that catches your eye and more importantly your heart will be blessed. Eric O another fine example of troubleshooting. Right off the bat you said it didn't feel right. A lot about cars is listening and feel. I had a piece of my torque converter break off on Interstate 40 near Little Rock Arkansas. I could hear it driving down the road I had the car towed to a hotel where we spent the night. And then I took it to Aamco! Transmission transmission people what could go wrong? Numbnuts said I needed a valve job! I asked him nicely to close the hood of my car. It was obvious to anyone with a half brain the noise was coming from the bellhousing. So I took it to another shop and they couldn't hear anything. Finally I found an old timey Exxon station! Had a guy about 55 or so and I told him I tale of woe. He came outside and said startup can we pop the hood. He looked at me and said you heard that going down the road at 60 miles an hour? I said sure did. I hit the rest area just to the west of Little Rock and I could tell it was coming from the bellhousing and didn't feel it was safe to drive. He replied I'm amazed you even heard it. Show up on the lift my car went drop the transmission and a chunk of torque converter fill out. it's the part that connects the torque converter to the front pump on the transmission. Mechanic looks at me and says I've been in this business for 35 years and I've never seen this before. He couldn't get the part on a Saturday so I was there until Monday afternoon. if you pay attention to your car it'll talk to you. Either to feel or sound
I had a 1975 AMC Matador Wagon with the 258 six and Mopar torqueflite transmission . At 99 K the neck of the torque converter snapped and a chunk of metal broke off . I was younger and pulled it out in the street . No trans. jack. I dropped it on my chest . It was a surprise . I had done the 4 speed manuals that way. But the automatics are HEAVIER . It is easier on a floor jack . But the not on FWD. You really need trans. jack . I did one with a floor jack - NEVER AGAIN ! Too heavy and off balance .
Are you Puerto Rican? They have a six sense for mechanical things.. LOL.. Good musicians too.
23:50. That was so funny. I wasn’t expecting it to fall apart. Great video
Eric you are the man you take pride in your work you are a true mechanic love your channel
GREAT to hear Ms. Marie helping you out, and interjecting comedy as well!
Knowledgeable, straight to the point, and humorous. Love it. After watching this video, I felt like I actually learned something! Thank you for taking the time
As soon as you said the ignition switch felt wonky I knew what went bad! Common problem on Jeep junk
Ford problem too...except in my 88 F250 it was a z-shaped rod that was in the column that actuated the actual start circuit...Disassemble the whole steering column to change it, 5 cents in aluminum and an hour of tearing apart the column to get to it. Not a bad repair just annoying due to all the crap you have to remove first.
Lol never had an issue like this on any of my jeep or my current 2007 liberty. I remember going down the road with my buddy in his Ford Ltd and the colum literally started on fire. Also...gm ingnitions??
I’ve done two of them. A Chrysler 300 and a Jeep Liberty. Seems like a fairly common issue due to a shitty design. That little sliver breaks off and you’re fubared.
It's not only Chrysler/Jeep with this sort of problem. As an example - I've diagnosed and replaced many ignition switch 'lock housings' over the years on 08-12 Ford Escapes for 'no start' conditions. It's a more time consuming job on those cars (steering wheel has to come off, column partially torn down), the part is more expensive (~$95), and equally as likely (if not more so) than the Chrysler part to fail and leave the owner with a no start condition. Similar deal on GM products such as the 1st generation Chevy Colorados.
"If they didn't want us to take it apart, they wouldn't have put it together with screws." Hahaha!
as a kid, rivets didn't stop me much either....
Yeah but they are continuously coming up with new types of heads on those screws which require the purchase of new tools. I smell a conspiracy
I actually put words to that effect on a job application once where they wanted a 'personal statement'. I got the job but I turned it down because 1) not only would I not want to work anywhere that wants personal statements but 2) I wouldn't want to work anywhere so desperate that they would have me.
Apple: "and i took that personally!"
You are a freaking GENIUS. If I lived closer you would do all of my work. I hope you charge accordingly to Difficulty and not just by the hour!
Keep cranking out the videos, Eric!!
Wow, i can't believe that i found this video! My accessories had stopped working about 3 weeks ago and then yesterday it wouldn't start at all. I followed your instructions and the exact same piece of metal was broken. You saved me a lot of money and headache! You sir are the best! Thank you sooooooo much!
Jeep = just empty every pocket. Great job as always Eric O.
Not with this one, I've had my liberty for 17 years and only put about two grand into non-routine maintenance. Almost all of that went to fixing the fcussing windows. Mind you, I do all the work myself.
Thanks for the video. Had the same problem and solution on my 2007 Liberty, broken cast metal bit on the shaft extending into ignition switch. Local O'Reilly's had the ignition actuator pin in stock, so must be used in many years and Chrysler models and prone to failure. Replaced and all back to normal. South Main saved me a lot of money and time.
Love the vids. So informative. Sometimes too much...haha.
You sir, are the only person besides one of my favorite high school teachers, Mr. Leggett, to use the phrase ... "Quick like a bunny."
I'm 51 years old, so you know if it's still in my head it's a great phrase.
And are the only person other than my wife to use the word ... SLICKERY. She uses it to describe her favorite quality in pajamas.
Wow once again you didn't south main auto 🚗 unbelievable I wish I knew 1/4 what you know, thank you for teaching👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍and God bless you🙏
I always love guessing before I watch the video what the problem might be. I honestly was thinking this was going to be another Jeep Computer failure. Glad to see it was something reasonable!
Hi, Eric. I am enjoying the trip through the past with SMA. This episode was intriguing. True detective novelette! Ya otta make it into a movie! Oh, ya did that already. Mystery, action, suspense... You have it all. Oh yeah, a sweet helper and humor too! What a life, you lucky dog. Thanks for sharing! Stay Healthy!
Great diagnostic skills there Eric. Fiddly job, as you get older you get less flexible which makes it tough going to get under stearing columns and dashboards. Though you're still like a Ninja at this.
You are fortunate to have helpers Mrs O, Hanna and Marie.
Eric, I'm halfway thru this video, and i'm thinking that the actuator pin is broken. Also, the brake shift interlock is right there when you were looking at the underside. FYI for those who don't know- The actuator pin is a shaft that is between the key cylinder and the ignition switch. It's getting pretty common to see them breaking on Chrysler Corp products of the early to late 2000's vintage. EDIT; Just got done watching the rest of it, good job! That part where the screw for the ignition switch goes into is pretty fragile. Have seen a few PT Cruisers with that part broken and the switch moving around, making it difficult to start the engine. That part breaks, have to replace the column.
David B. Fishburn
I’ve done two of them. A Chrysler 300 and a Jeep Liberty. Seems like a fairly common issue due to a shitty design. That little sliver breaks off and you’re fubared.
I'm a Chrysler dealer tech myself, have done quite a few. I agree that it is a shitty design. The older Saginaw steering column was a better design, aside from the bearing issue on the tilt versions.
You are the coolest and the most original mechanic that i had watched ! Thank you for all the great help with Jeep's. I manage to solve several problems by myself with input that you gave. Thank you very much. These days training to solve this "no start/no crank" problem. Best
Yesterday this came up on my feed - watched with interest, never encountered this problem before - had Jeeps for 30 years. This morning my Liberty (Cherokee here in UK) would not start, or crank - opened it up to find it was exactly the same piece broken as this video - seriously spooked !
If I sent you all my Jeeps I wouldn't have much to work on! 😂😂😂 Have a great weekend Eric!
Thanks for the helpful video and instruction, and for knowing the difference between a switch and a lock. I must have started watching a dozen videos only to find they were calling the lock and cylinder the ignition switch.
I teach IT at San Jacinto College in the Houston area. I caught myself saying enhance, enhance, enhance when I was showing my students a close up of a computer component yesterday......
TYPICAL CHRSLER KRAP LIKE FORD CHEVY TOO
GET A VOLVO TOYOTA SUBIE ETC
E Kop ??? What does that have to do with his comment?
FishFind3000 probably meant to do a general comment.
@@ekop1778 a vovlo😂😂😂😂😂 man you have me dead
THANK YOU!! I have the same vehicle (just purchased it), with the exact same problem. I was prepared to go ahead and try to change the neutral safety switch which is up inside the transmission and a horrible job. But thanks to your video I was able to diagnose the problem (by finding no power to the blue and pink wire). My problem is actually the cylinder not turning all the way to start but it makes no difference, without your video I would have been completely lost. I can now drive the vehicle, starting it with a screwdriver, until I get a new key and lock cylinder set. So thank you so much your videos are not only informative, they are highly entertaining as well. As soon as I get a few extra bucks I will definitely order a hat. So again thank you.
Just showed Marie how to steal a jeep liberty. Next day the yards full of them. lol
That's the punishment...
Had to watch just to see if your cylinder actuator was broken like the 1st 1 I ever did, was. After I took the lower cover off, all the 'bits' hit the floor, along with my jaw... BUT I was thankful for 2 things. A. The cylinder linkage assembly came pre-assembled, so not too much of a puzzle. B. No one was there to see the look of panic on my face after the old 1 fell apart before I could see how it worked. Nice job once again by SMA
Glad the car came to you before the parts cannon went off.
Have the same year, same outside color, same color inside too. Same problem at my 86,000 miles i have only. No security torx T10 i had so i pried off the inside tab of the bolt with a small screwdriver and used a normal torx. To reinstall, the Actuator and key cylinder must be aligned well before joining them together both on the 1 oclock or ON POSITION. Careful aligning also the ign switch to the metal weak part that broke before, easy to break it by forcing the alignment.
_Marie:The Wizard's Apprentice_
atticstattic wrong channel ? Isn’t that hoovie’s job
@@Mrflash222006
I see what you did there....
Mrflash222006 Weeeeeezerd
@@vdel7418
True...
Thank you for the video. Saved me a major repair bill on my 2005 Jeep Liberty.
I LOVE to see a new SMA video pop up in the notifications!! Keep em coming Mr.O 🇺🇸🇺🇸🤙🤙
I'm waiting on the episode when Scotty has the Starship Enterprise towed over because the warp drive won't start or engage.
"These things are notorious for problems."
"A real money pit."
"Wanna know how to avoid this problem? Buy something from a reputable manufacturer like Toyota or Lexus."
Eric, what can we say other than another good video. Thank you for sharing and have a good weekend Artie 👍👍👍
Ivan would have glued that piece back on lol.
And Abom would have spray welded the part back up and machined it to size.
What no duct tape?
"No parts required!"
"Ivan" -- If you ever traveled to Ukraine or Russia the pronunciation of "Ivan" there isn't anything like the way it sounds in the U.S.. When Cyrillic natives hear Americans pronounce that name (and Boris, Igor, Vladimir) they don't recognize it, to them it's a strange name from the U.S. If you were a Russian guy named "Ivan" you'd never know an American was calling your name.
There is a video on TH-cam of a guy saying these names correctly, I can't post the link here, it can be found by searching for *5 Russian Names You're Pronouncing Horribly Wrong* Start at around 2 minutes for "Ivan"
As for Russian last names - forget about it - only Russian native speakers can ever figure those out.
Nice of Chrysler/Fiat/Jeep to sell just the guts. I was expecting you to have to buy the entire lock housing and take the column apart. Nice camera angle. Didn't notice any DeWalt light flicker. I also enjoyed Ms. Marie's play by play commentary at beginning. She's adorable.
My jeep didn't want to turn back on and this video helped us find out it had the same problem thank you sir
Thanks so much the actuator worked ordered the part yesterday got it this morning take me about 10 minutes tearing apart about 15 minutes to put it back together your video is a big help thanks
One of these days them hoodie laces are gonna get you into trouble …………….
Every time he leans over a running engine with his hoodie strings flopping around it drives me crazy. A serpentine belt and pulley is going to get him one day.
😂😂😂
You think it's this and it ends up being that .. I love your check everything diagnostics.... rule out everything till you hit the problem that's the cause no guessing .. wish all mechanics did that.. at least it was a simple fun fix .. tedious but fun :) thanks for bringing us along for the ride .
"Aluminium" oh Eric, you've finally got it. English 101.
Your welcome 😁
I opened the ignition system according your procedure. I did not find any problem and then put it back. It worked great somehow. I did not find any broken part. I wonder why it did not start but it starts now so I guess its all good now.
Until 3 days later it won't start again lol
Is still starting normally or do you present the problem again? I have the same issue when the car is exposed to the sun all day (hot). When the sun goes down, the car start. I opened the ignition system and everything was ok. Now the car is starting but I think it will present the problema again
I sold my Jeep Liberty last year. Good luck, you guys!
Hey Eric, in all these videos I missed the last of your entreaties. So I was wondering why my boxes or tools don't glow and sparkle with the promise of a new day, with new adventures in repairs.......NO not just repairs but glorious repairs that help our fellow Brothers and Sisters go out and make a DIFFERENCE? When I open my small garage to greet the day, all I hear is a low but still discernible groan. Just asking.......... you did want questions..no?
The Liberty and Patriot are great little cars IF your a good patient mechanic or know one who won't kill you on repair costs.
Nice job, my friends wife had one like that it was POS looking thing but it had over 260k miles till the engine started bottom end knocking then it was junked
242k on my 2003. She runs great. Still strong
casinostuff1 265,000 on mine runs great, mostly original, they’re very easy to work on, I like mine.
Oh man, I'd have had those jiggly bits flying everywhere, lol. And great 2-stroke dirt bike impression there -that was friggin great!! 😂🤣😂
I need to write a book of the story of my life ... everyone tells me it would be a best seller. 😁
We should do one together 😂
@@SouthMainAuto - Now THAT would be a guaranteed best seller! 🤣
You got some good comedians sidekicks in Hannah and Marie
Yes, the good ol' tamper proof screw. Of course if one was going to "tamper" (steal car without the helpful key) one could just insert your trusty slide hammer in switch and pull.
It is amazing how many parts that used to be bullet proof from door handles to ignition switches to pump impellers and everything else fail because of poor design/manufacture/material choices. They keeping reinventing "cheaper wheels" - just means more work for you! One again, it was a great diagnosis - chasing logic paths to see what's working and what's not..
"In the picture, it looked HUGE!" That's what she said!
2005 called, they want their joke back
All those problems you described at the beginning of the video come standard on that vehicle!
Funnily enough, I had an ignition actuator pin sheer off on my dodge charger about 3 weeks ago. I felt like I was having a flash back... XD
so what was the exact thing you had to do to get it to crank mine did the exact same thing today
Great help for a present intermittent problem I'm having... Sometimes the key just won't turn from the off/lock position. I "assumed" (we never should say that hey!), that it was the lock barrel, but maybe its the ignition switch.... hmmm, Investigation required.
Thank you for this Video. This exact part, Ignition switch actuator pin, was also broken on my 05' liberty. Much appreciated.
Also, the turn signal switch. If you hold the switch in the turn mode while turning the steering wheel past the click off point, it may shear off a little plastic tab in the switch and then won't cut off automatically anymore. I had a Plymouth van with a bad transmission so I pulled the switch from it and did a swap.
whats this guy the only person who can fix cars in his area
They keep dropping and towing cars to his shop every day.
Its because hes the only one with enough patience to actually troubleshoot the problem without just throwing parts at it till it works right.
all these guys that make these videos do is take most off the dionastic work that every one else has to do most off theese cars all have same problems with youtube you dont need all that fancy stuff this guy has most off your answers are right on these youtube videos ,
Thank you so much for this video. I fixed the problem with minimal swearing.
This looks like part of my problem on my jeep. Lights come on, but no crank. Also Shifter stuck in park. I noticed to that the key is able to be pulled out when it shouldn't. Thanks for the video.
You've got far more patience than I do---I hate working on fiddly stuff like ignition locks. But you proved once again that testing saves the day, no guesswork
Man Eric. I even asked Ivan, how come Eric isn't making as many videos these days. He said it's hunting season so he's probably out hunting. That's right. I forgot. Hope you got a nice one. If you did, let's see it, or at least hear the story of the big one that got away. Keep those videos coming, because it's great to watch a master at work. Take care. Jpol. I keep ringing that bell but it hardly ever rings back! Lol.
Ahh, shop banter with Ms. Marie!!!
Nice work Eric,always good content!!!
Watching Eric's videos makes me distrust all of the shops in the Tacoma,Wa area. We paid Larson Dodge over $1800 to replace a ignition switch in a 2011 Dodge caravan.
Most of that $1800 was probably the cost to ship it to SMA so it could actually get fixed.
@@jeffhartman7000 My comment is about Larson Dodge not SMA
Edward Lincoln, that was a joke. They would charge you a lot more than $1800 to flat-bed your van from Tacoma to Avoca and back.
wrong size- story of my life!
Had the exact same thing happen to my daughter's 01 VW Golf. Luckily it broke in the driveway so no tow truck was required. VW also used tamper proof bolts that required me to grind the head off just to get it apart.
Welcome BACK Ms. Marie 😊 We Missed you. How WAS College? GOOD Grades? All A's we hope! 💓 NYC
DUDE!!! Your a lifesaver. Thank you
same thing happened to my XJ,new actuator pin soon fixed it.
had similar repair on a voyager it was amazing how many "Jeep" parts were available all over town not so with voyager found part at junkyard
thank you for the video just had a Jeep with the same problem i was able to watch your video and do it myself I am no mechanic
wow I hope I can fix my Jeep no start, no crank........thank you for the great camera work and your expertise.
Did it fix your Jeep?
@@michellesnyder816 Yes I did. Thank you for asking. It was the ignition switch. Ordered one off Amazon and was able to fix it myself. A learning curve for sure. Feels good when it's all back together and working again.
We tried the ignition switch, not the issue. Not starter or batte actry. Thinking it might be actuator switch. I take it looking for rocks. Was driving stopped turned it off. Went to start.....nothing. I also think it has something to do with security system. I know nothing about fixing it nor does my son. Any easy ideas??? Thanks
@@michellesnyder816 I'm sorry. I meant the actuator was the problem. The ignition switch was ok. The key turned and did nothing..replaced the actuator and it started up and is still ok today.
Thanks for this video -that was exactly the problem and this helped me save a ton of $$$$!
Great info as always learning from each vid especially with the wiring and electronics. Can bus cheers man
Great job ! Now i can hot wire mine and hopefully find out why when it gets hot it wont start? Baffeling to say the least...starts just fine when cold...thinking starter motor has no shielding?
Hi Bruce! I have the same issue! Jeep doesn't start on hot weather but as soon as it get cold it starts perfect. Did you find the problem?
@@vika76 not yet but might be something to do with vapor...near transmission there are two sensors that are wired to the brain that dictate gas vapor....one in and one out...supposed to help with smog control?
@@brucemyall945 I think it may be something related with false contact of metal expanding due to hot weather..
I will let you know when I find something!
@@vika76 one site said it is the it breaths..intake / outake carbon emissions clogging connected to brain sending engine light to light ?
This video was very helpful for me!!! Thanks a lot!!!
Well done. Thanks Dr. O!
Nice!! Great work!! :-)
That T-pin pliers test light move!
Great job! This saved me big time! 2007 jeep liberty. Thanks
23:51 that's the sound of Murphy announcing his arrival.
Chekhov's hand grenade.
"Gone in an Hour and 15 minutes"
Like the video thats the same problem i now ive look at other videos but none of them help thank you so much
You are REALLY AMAZING .....!!! Something like that would drive anyone else Nucking Futz .....!!! It's nice they are made so repair friendly ..... Good God .....!!!
Excellent troubleshooting!
Marie is back!
I had to do that same job on my jeep that part was about $45 and took a bit of head scratching and dumb looks till I found it, I hate the security torx didn't have any that small but in regular torx I did tiny punch took care of the pin in the middle and got the job done
Problems like this are the reason I would never own a Jeep. Important technology like this should have been mastered decades ago.
Its Twelve years old not probably a 3rd Owner and not well maintained have owned many Mopar's including Jeeps up to 150K miles ever had one ignition switch failure on any of them. But people like you who hate Jeeps are the reason I can get $5,000 off sticker MSRP so keep on trolling dude.
I was just watching the Jeep video where the cam sensor put two coils in meltdown. Issues like that will make you question what to buy.
Mywindo,
I would Bet a lot of cars have something similar. Maybe more complicated than it needs to be.
(23:10) Oh boy! That looks like a little hand grenade! LOL
Getting the ignition switch out looked pretty similar to replacing the switch in my stick shift 94 Ranger. With that said, the rest of the job looked almost like a bigger pain in the hoo-ha than replacing the shift tube/plunger assembly in my friends automatic trans 01 Ranger! $50 part and 4 hrs of my time later it was good as new. The worst part of that job was that I'm 6'2" and about 260#. Laying upside down, under the dash, with the steering column on my chest and having to remove/reinstall 2 torx screws from BEHIND the column was NOT fun! I hope you made out better than I did...I charged him $100 and a 12 pack!
Next up for MY Ranger...the 302 swap! It's been an ongoing project for the past 3 years in my little part time shop, while working on other peoples junk to finance it lol!
Siemens USA, designs, builds and markets cyber security equipment in addition to loads of other electronic. Early in my 20 year career with the US Army Signal Corp I used a lot of their equipment built for military encryption purposes.
year. damn spellcheck. There, now it's edited.
Just one criticism, why do you make everything seem so easy. 😂 Another great video and fix Mr. O, thanks for all you do to show us how it’s all done.👍
I thought there were cartoon voices dubbed in but it was Marie. Love the videos. I learn to have more patience in my work when I see others that have much more than I do.