I think you're being unfair to sociopaths. They don't have 'tactics' they just lack empathy. Kent's just dishonest. Which is independent of any psychopathy.
As a trans woman my experience with Christian love was reason enough to make me an atheist. I used to be an active member of a Christian denomination, I taught Sunday school,directed the Christmas pageant, and represented the congregation at the synod conference . When I came out as trans and decided to transition some in the congregation took it upon themselves to takeover teaching the Sunday school kids , took over my position as a Delagate to the synod , and some even refused to speak to me. I have come to believe that if that is Christian love and how their god wants them to behave then I no longer want any part of it!
I’m afraid that seeing people like Kent Hovind on the Internet has turned me away from religion. I’m not an atheist: I just stopped devoting any runtime to religion because I don’t want to end up being a loon like Hovind. COVID had forced a pause in church attendance anyway, so I just never went back. Because of Hovind and flat Earth people like him.
i'm so sorry that happened to you, my church is very lgbt friendly and I remember going to a night sermon about how we need to pray to stop violence against trans women so when I first heard about christians thinking trump was god's gift to earth it was a jarring contrast
I've always been atheist and I'm genderfluid but I often find myself still feeling compelled to defend religious people that were not acting hurtfully towards others. Granted this is probably because I empathise with them over the reason they are targeted without opening their mouths. That being that some people feel the need to take issue with members of certain minority religions choosing to wear particular headwear. I feel like they are being attacked for the same stupid reason people see fit to attack me for wearing the "wrong" clothes. So promptly the part of me that is like "Are they harming you in any way?", "Nope thought so, now shut it", comes out. I'll also defend them for honestly answering a provocative question designed to give the asker an excuse to be an ass. I'm less sympathetic to those that bring it upon themselves by trying to evangelise to random strangers however. If anything I'd be more likely to step in on the side of the person they are pushing at and ask them to demonstrate their claims. But that is just me I don't intentionally go out of my way to engage such people but I do think anyone openly evangelising ideas in public invites a public response and as such I feel obliged to accept that invitation against any expressing bigoted ideas. Those that live and let live honestly I'm good with, even if that means they choose not to interact with some people more than they have to, I at least respect them for recognising they have nothing nice to say and saying nothing. I just hate those that feel the need to project their hate onto others.
an anglican church near me had a covid christmas church service I watched and said that not only were people of other religions welcome, but ATHEISTS as well. Go to a mennonite church and many of them don't even TALK dogma. Although the response to saying "I'm coming out as trans" would likely be "so? Get back to work". But they also made a point of saying the service was held on unceded first nation land. I don't know what religion a 'synod' is, but there are LOTS of denominations not fundamentalist and don't care about gender issues at all. In fact its embarassing because many ISLAM mosques are not openly friendly and thats less than ONE generation away from fundamentalist countries.
20:40 Absolutely incredible. He goes from "You idiot, you believe in the majority of scientist's opinions?" to "Look at the majority of random American's opinions, it coincides with mine so I'm right" to "Look at this article stating you shouldn't put stock in majority opinion" in the blink of an eye. His viewers must have room temperature IQ!
Room temperature IQ in Kelvin is still too much. Try nearer to 0 Kelvin...electrons barely moving about their skull...surprised they dont stop breathing.
I'm from the US and it is so annoying that people like Kent get so much exposure internationally. He is basically our village idiot, or perhaps more accurately our village snake oil salesman.
He's not on most people's radars, only really the minority who view athiest/theist TH-cam debates. Thankfully we hear a lot from intelligent Americans (at least in the UK media) - but I'm not sure any number could outweigh the insanity of the completely crazy faction of Americans we also hear from (Trump et al)
@@dasreicht not sure that is good , considering the 'orange head tots big hands!' years ...kenny as the 'mascot' of the u.s at least reflects how its government operates in meta terms on the world stage and how its internal politics tryess to avoid the trend of informed educated younger generations starting to tinker with the rigged systems far to good to be ignored :/
A wise person once said that arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how great your moves are the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board, and then strut around like it's won. Aren't you glad that you've gotten to experience that first hand?
With Hovind it's even worse, because he's not an idiot, he's a scam artist. He CHOOSES to play like a pigeon because HE knows he couldn't win the game if he did it properly.
This is *exactly* the concept I had in mind as well. Internet points won by you! And I guess Hovind would rather be a successful pigeon than a mediocre chess player.
Definitely. I'm loving all the comments i'm reading. I wish I could give them all a thumbs up, but I have games to play! So I'll stop it here and leave some words :)
I once tried debating a flat earther, it was fun in the beginning, but it got so boring after a while because any kind evidence just got ignored... was really disappointing, can't recomend
"any kind evidence just got ignored" Yeah, I had a similar experience because I said that a YT flat earther had an interesting experiment. When I pointed out that I had similar evidence showing that the sun actually goes down, he said "f-ck off." I quickly saw how disingenuous he was, and it was very disappointing.
A couple years back when I was a gymnast I was biking to my gym and I saw a guy with a leather jacket that had literally every flat farther claim, like density being gravity, it was a good laugh.
Just wonder how long Matt Powell wants to play 2nd fiddle, he is as narcissitic as Hovind and two captains on the bridge of the MS. Egotism is a heading for desaster.
@@kamion53 Well Kent in going to prison isn’t he? I suppose Eric Hovind might be hurt that his old man chose Matt to replace him over Eric. It is bound to be a hell of a cat fight.
Oddly enough some thiests will admit that micro evolution is possible but deny macro evolution. It's just another form of the god of the gaps or special pleading.
Kent: "we believe that if you think you come from a rock...you're dumb" Also Kent: Believes the literal word of the Bible in which "the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life."
This man has been repeating this same line, the same nonsense for nearly 30 years! He has repeated the exact same lie over and over for 30 years. It's freaking nuts!
@@user-so1wr2oh1t panspermia is just a hypothesis that is untested. No scientist is “claiming” life came from panspermia. We haven’t found any meteorites with organisms.
Yea except the Bible is historically infallible, almost all the fathers of modern science are Christians and our entire time-line is wrapped around the life of our Lord and savior Christ Jesus. There's absolutely no debate among modern historians about the Bible's credibility. Atheism is the silliest religion ever made. Why would you militantly defend a position as ignorant as the universe and all life in it coming from absolutely nothing. Science has laws. Please learn them. Weird how modern science agrees more and more with the Bible as time goes by. At the time it was written, the "scholars" of the earth thought the planet was flat. I thank God for Copernicus and Galileo, a couple of Christians, for inching us closer to the truth of God's glorious creation.
I walked into a friend's home, clearly very frustrated. She asked why I was so bothered. I told her I had been in an argument with someone who said the Earth is 5000 years old... She responded, "That's just stupid! The Earth is 7000 years old!!!" My jaw hit the floor and I said, "WHAT???" "It's in the Bible". I asked "Where? I must have missed that bit when I read it multiple times." She went on to explain that she had never read it and she's not certain the person who told her that had either... And that dinosaurs didn't exist... I walked out not wanting to frustrate myself any further. My point, is that a large number of "Christians" have never done the reading but a solid chunk of non-believers have. These people are so difficult to have a conversation with. I envy that level of blind faith while at the same time pity that level of ignorance. Love your videos!
Emma I love your vids, I am an American and unfortunately your point of having to remind people from the US that the US is not the entirety of the world rings all too true and even we Americans who have a brain have to remind other Americans that we are not the world and that American views don’t translate to other countries and the reason there are so many countries that have issues with the US is because we try to push our views on them. I grew up in a Christian home under a Baptist pastor that believed like KH, and forced me to attend a Baptist college, I had been questioning god from the time I was in the 7th grade, and then the first year I was in the Bible College they had a week long conference with Kent and it was the single most important event in my deconversion process, after it I stepped up my questioning of doctrine and with a year and a half was asked to leave the college and church under the guise of a crisis of faith when the truth was not a crisis of faith but rather a total lack of it and being offered not one good reason to have faith. Keep putting them out there and I will watch everyone of them.
Odds are you wont see this, but when Hovind calls you out and can't defend his position because of it's straw-man arguments and ad Hominids you know you stuck a nerve. Keep up your great content and calling people out for their lies and misdirection. I'm proud of you for being respectful and not just completely bashing this human dumpster fire.
Yeah, he can't argue with her when he knows he won't be able to get in the final word. That's also why he won't debate her, because when he's speaking with her face to face, he can't pause her and gloss over her points without his manipulation showing to the audience.
Omg this is the inception of react videos, Emma reacting to Kent&Powell reacting to Emma reacting to Kent&Powell reacting to Dan reacting to Matt Powell
Aron Ra told him that to his face on three (?) separate occasions, one of which was recorded on a debate on Ra's channel and Kent literally just ignored it and continued making the same claim. That same video even shows Aron Ra trying to get Kent to admit he's lying about the rock claim and Kent literally just brushes it off and continues talking. Kent KNOWS it's not true, but it works wonders on his gullible audience, so he keeps it
"Beware of the majority opinion, it's wrong all too often" Nice quote from Kent. I wonder if this applies to religious opinions. What's the majority religion worldwide, again?
To be fair to him, the majority of Christians disagree with what he's preaching, and I'm guessing (I don't care enough to check) that he thinks that the majority of people calling themselves Christians really aren't.
@@RikardPeterson : agreed, Kent Hovind would certainly be qualified as a nutjob by almost every christian where I live, and most of them are catholic, indeed not actually christian from fanatical evangelists' point of view :)
When Kent decided to start doing the Whack an Atheist series I would consistently go to the episode and debate creationists in the comments, I did it enough and well enough that Kent decided to block me from posting things to his channel 😅
OMG the irony of him quoting Mark Twain is so rich. Twain was fiercely opposed to religion, superstition, ignorance, hoaxes, and basically everything Hovind stands for. Among his quotes: "Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. ... The higher animals have no religion. And we are told that they are going to be left out in the Hereafter. I wonder why? It seems questionable taste." It's also ironic that he says "a majority of the population voted for Hitler," but then, "it was probably a fraudulent election like Biden." Which is it, Kent?? Did a majority of people vote for Hitler/Biden, or didn't they? Is he conceding Biden won the popular vote?
The best part is that even with massive amounts of violence, the Nazi party only won a plurality of the vote to become Chancellor of Germany. Of course, that should be a warning about how dangerous a large, motivated, and violent plurality can be.
On the domestication of dogs: I remember listening to a radio lab about a team of scientists attempting to domesticate foxes and the more they domesticated them the more they began to look dog-like. Pretty interesting listen.
Congratulations Emma, all the work you've done on your channel to build up a brand finally paid off. Now that you've featured on Whack an Atheist, you know you've made it haha...If you want to really enjoy Kent getting utterly ruined then watch AronRa discuss him....Kent gets points for believing his is winning but he really really isn't and looks more comical the more videos appear! *EDIT - I just seen AronRa has replied to you *Edit (2) - You're right. Debating him would not be good for you, you've admitted you're not a scientist and it would be really be a example of "never argue with an idiot, they'd only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
Hey Emma! I know I'm a couple months late but molecular biologist here, If you ever want a few more arguments for these types of debates (though i'm sure they wont listen): We HAVE seen evolution in a short time-frame, notably in bacteria an yeast! The article "Evolution in real time" in the Harvard Gazette does a good job of explaining some nice discoveries on that subject. Great video as always! :)
Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem than most Casual Watchers of any given channel realize. Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it, but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that and therefore limit themselves. After this more-general message, i wanna add: TH-camr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute, while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning to "flood the Office with his Man". Both TH-camrs added to each other without realizing. And very notrworthily: Telltale makes Arguments that not enough Atheists run for Office and we should seriously consider it, especially for small Positions of all Kinds.
The fact that Kent and others like him are able to keep a large enough audience that they're still in business goes to show that their audience DEFINITELY 100% ONLY GETS THEIR INFO from people they already agree with. Somebody hack one of his streams like they do in all them movies where that happens
Exactly. It’s clearly a combination of social media doing their echo-chamber-inducing algorithms and oh, so many folk simply sticking their heads in the holy sand. I get that early-years indoctrination is a bloomin’ powerful thing, but given genuine, credible and demonstrable information is access’s at the click of a couple of buttons, they’ve no excuse.
There's a reason why all the "successful" apologists go to and are in America. I wonder if there's a parallel thing happening in the middle east with Muslims but we just don't hear about it because of the language barrier.I can just imagine a small but tight group of atheists over there fighting for reason and rationality. The ones that haven't been executed of course... In the West technology has certainly given atheists a voice like never before in human history.
@@TheTruthKiwi There are plenty of Englisch Speaking different faiths on YT , just go Look and you will be amazed that Foreigners can actually be bothered to create Content on a Myriad of Topics in a Foreign to them, Language. Arguments that are based on the Language Barrier are Null and Void These days, there is even an autotranslate for Klingon so Do Not make claims you Do Not get any Info about a Subject matter because you are only capable of injesting Spoonfed Content. Go Use the search function and have a lovely Day. Be well
@@dirkdisselpuff7938 Do heed your own advice to broaden your own view that English isn't as universal as you think outside Western countries as education of English language outside them is often poor or rare. English content is consumed mostly by english-speaking people; if you want content directed to a different language speaking majority (ex. Spanish, Chinese, Hindi, Russian, Arab) you'll have to use their respective language to appeal to the audience of that language, not English. Don't take the widespread usage of English within western hemisphere for granted by assuming the entire world uses it just as sparingly.
@@NewNecro It is funny that you assume that i am a person you tagged me as. Taking my main argument out of context provided you with a non existing argument and attack instead of ask or forbid have a discourse. I pointed out that gaining knowledge of something you do not know is not is not hampered by a language barrier. There are more then enough havens of information that you can scavange in whatever language you what on a myriad of topics. I pointed out that the Argument of i do not understand the other persons language or can not read their script is a non existing argument since it is just about using the right tool, like a autoranslate function or translated script. English is not my first or even second language so instead of thinking of me as a dult that has the oddacity to demand that everything has to be spoonfeed to him i am happy to report that i have no problem with actually doing the work in finding the correct tool for myself to converse with my fellow human. Ask any immigrant and they will tell you that language is not the main or even second problem with a foreign society, it is their culture and that is in these days made up of multiple language speaking citizens and that concludes that language is not a barrier set in stone that can not be removed or circumevented it is a catalyst for evolution of a Society. The claim the Person i respoinded to was that no knowldge was available to learn about other religions. With the big ones that is most defiantly not the case, pick one language and you will find information about your faith of choice in that language online or a good boookstore.If you want more in depth information persaonal contact with a person of faith is required and then you have a single example fo the latter faiths living worshipper. Be well
I am absolutely fascinated by both of these individuals. The level of arrogance, manipulation, and falsehoods they use to make their "arguments" is absolutely ridiculous. I keep running into content featuring them and everytime I just cannot believe they are real. They behave like cartoon villains.
I love debunking Kent Hovind, using Christianity. 1) Pointing out how he calls upon users to go to HIS content to learn about God - instead of, per the Bible (and the consistent teachings of Christ), going to God. (this is Blasphemy, according to the Word of God). 2) Kent Hovind being proud of representing physical violence against individuals who disagree with him. (Wrath... hmm... isn't that one of those 7 deadly... things?) 3) Kent Hovind continually calling for praise from his peanut gallery. (Those who look to the approval of men, have no approval from God). 4) A MULTITUDE of bastardizations of the Bible or the Word of God to support himself (literally the #1 worst thing you can do, according to Christianity). So... yeah, he's bunk on every level.
@@gowdsake7103 The Seven Deadly Sins are a Hellenic Pagan idea that Hellenic Roman church fathers grandfathered into the traditions of the Church of Rome, they're no more a part of the actual Bible than Dante's Divine Comedy or Neon Genesis Evangelion. What the actual Bible says is be angry and sin not (anger okay, but channel it positively, don't do evulz), and that's where Dr. Yoshi gets caught with his pants down.
Number 3 can actually go back to Number 2. It's Pride, one of those seven deadly things. And perhaps persecution complex. Number 4: Hovind and (Ken) Ham and their ilks have been called out by Biblical scholars (yes, those who seriously study the Bible) for misinterpreting the Bible. I watch this from the latest AronRa video.
You're a brilliant warrior. I know how weighty and frustrating it is to battle with people like Kent Hovind, and you're doing an amazing job of fending off his abusiveness. Well done! ~Fan from Seattle
This is great. Good on you Emma. Its interesting how he can't seem to tell the difference between scientific fact and political opinion. Because to him they are the same.
@@dragonmystik9120 Quite probably they would quote Matthew 27:52 as precedent, claiming that god must also have protected the inhabitants of Jerusalem (since we hear nothing more about this zombie resurrection). On second thoughts, probably not. I forgot they have already proved their lack of cranial capacity. I doubt such an answer would occur to what little remains of their zombie food. :)
"It's okay, the lord's not real, so I think I'll be fine." Also, it _Is_ gross that he called you "honey". Great work! I'm looking forward to your next video.
4:50 "oh kent hovind's struggling with technology he's fine he's old let it go" Man, good to know which demos the kids think it's okay to ridicule nowadays. "Kids?" Cripes, was that gross?
@@darkpatches For an (often) older man--especially outside of family and friends--to call an adult (or young) woman "honey" is already typically considered creepy, but to do it during any type of debate is diminutive and dismissive of her ability to be taken seriously as well; but based solely on her appearance. It's not ridicule to say an ad hominem went too far. Ridicule: the subjection of someone or something to contemptuous and dismissive language or behavior. (Source, Google)
@@Bjornication Hovind may be the personification of an intellectual creep and being married to him seems to be no cup of tea, but he's not calling anyone "honey" to be creepy. It's to be condescending; even if in this context it's because she's younger and female. A huge contingent of the population in the American South, male and female, still call each other, esp strangers, "honey," in a friendly and, often, unthinking way. Once I got over the surprise at a complete stranger calling me "honey" or "sweetie," I found it quite endearing. Hovind isn't from the South, but he's been there long enough to pick up the lingo. I think hearing "creepiness" from Hovind for saying "honey" is projection due to bias or cultural unfamiliarity (Or because he's old? Ooooh, old people are creepy!). He's clearly co-opted the cultural lingo for his own nefarious purposes: belittling this particular opponent and getting under her skin. Unfortunately, he succeeded. Thorne pointed out that this was Hovind's schtick. He even succeeded in getting under AronRa's skin. I think the definition of ridicule you bring up fits my criticism of Thorne more than Hovind. Maybe it's harder to see when you don't care about the marginalized demo.
@@darkpatches If you're giving ground that "Hovind may be the personification of an intellectual creep" (if I understand you correctly), that he doesn't have a good track record with women, and that he meant to be condescending: are you saying that a creepy seeming person with a history of (alleged) abuse of women, who said something to be condescending to someone they were debating, didn't say something creepy, diminutive, and dismissive, because they live in the South? I think you're trolling.
Hi Emma. I found your channel through your Sci-Man Dan Video. I like your informed opinions. I used to be a Latter Day Saint, and have found that the majority of religious hardliners are very intolerant of the scientific community in general. (I at least had a head start where I grew up with a family who had book club membership, and studied a book on the then understood evolution and life style of dinosaurs among other things as well as the Solar System, back when Jupiter had only 12 moons or so we thought at the time). md will poo poo the idea that dinosaurs even existed, despite the fossil record. A great many number of the people who believe the Earth is flat and that gravity doesn't exist, like to treat the Bible as the only truth in the world. However if you look at mythologies around the world, you realise that a lot of the stories were built to rationalise the things that happened in their part of the world and were truth to them at the time, until other religions stepped in and took over normally through conquering nations and then forcing their views on others. Christianity has a bad track record on this, with the Inquisition targeting people who refuse to think their way and wiping them out. Likewise forcing religion on the peoples of the world during the various colonisation efforts. People with that mindset will never accept change even when proven, and will always twist the narrative to their worldview. Me, I'm still getting used to the fact that the majority of dinosaurs had feathers. Proof that as scientific understanding increases that change is accepted. Very enjoyable video, as was you MLM Body Shop video. Keep up the good work and don't let the ignoramuses grind you down.
When Professor Powell said "she's just a you tuber" i started to doubt Emma had ever been on you tube, despite the fact that i was watching her on you tube at the time. That's the power and influence a person with his credibility has
Powell is a professor?! I thought he was just a guy who got a certificate in homophobia who wants the government to round up all the gays so that they can be executed in the most humane way possible... Edit: Corrected a spelling error, but not the run on sentence because who cares about correcting them, right?
Good on you for putting your thoughts out there! My education is in anthropology. Darwin/Wallace evolutionary processes are what give explanatory power to what we see in the fossil record (e.g., early hominids to H. sapiens sapiens). You hit the nail on the head when you said that people like Mr. Kent Hovind and Mr. Matt Powell do not understand the time scales involved. That's why Lamarck's theory of change never worked - he assumed that change happened within an individual's life, rather than through each generation over very large time scales. Wallace and Darwin were aware of recent geological discoveries that established these long time scales, and why their theory works so well. By contras, there is no model or evidence (the bible does not count) of young earth. They also do not understand that evolution is not a unilinear or progressive process. Evolution is as simple as whatever traits help a population survive ecological change persist and those that don't are left behind. Indeed, evolution can be cyclical. There is no component of evolution that says that organisms must become more complex or lead to a higher order. In fact, very simple animals like the Tardigrade are far better at surviving than humans, and will almost certainly outlast human beings. I've been frustrated by these people my whole life. Giving them more information will not change their minds. A common trait of theirs is deficient cognition and awareness, combined with personality and enculturation that makes them susceptible to this way of thinking. Embracing such a world view is a way for them to feel in control of their lives in an increasingly complex and scary world, provides comfort through solidarity, and the opportunity to feel smart and important by standing up to intelligent people and believing that they are special because they see the truth of it all. Unless these people want to make a change, the likely never will. Meanwhile we need to do better with education and methods/services to help susceptible people from falling into these cults. P.S. If you ever want to learn an amazing story, look up the story of Alfred Wallace and how he independently developed evolution by natural selection. He was a crazy guy.
There is a scandal coming to light about pervasive sexual abuse in the Southern Baptist Church. Suddenly when someone says, "I'm a Christian" they don't seem nearly so harmless as they would have us think.
A good evolutionary item: look up the history of horses and donkeys. The two split, but if they mate they produce a mule. That is their close enough to produce offspring, but that offspring is infertile because of the different number of chromosomes in the two parent species. But this is an example of one animal giving birth to a different animal due to selection. It's usually artificial selection, being that humans do it, but it could happen in the wild as well. A mule is not a horse and a mule is not a donkey. Now he would probably complain about the fact that it's sterile, but that's part of natural selection.
Marvelous response by Emma, I could really feel that internal rage that she vented so eloquently! I'd probably break something if someone did a so poor job of tackling your points. He's just pandering to his flock, only allowing his pet parrot Powell to speak each time Hovind tugged on his tail feathers... Emma got a real knack for this and I'm really impressed by her calm and collected ways!
He knows he won't be winning the discussion if he shows the entire video, so he merely showed a portion of it. I think his ego wouldn’t allow it. He also knows that his followers, will eat up everything he says. Because of them it’s a lot easier to be so ignorant I guess and because he's sexist, he also speaks over you trying to outwit you.
Emma, even Professor Dave has debated him, and he got SOOO frustrated, every time he raised a genuine scientific argument, Hovind deflected, procrastinated, attempted to belittle Dave with condescending clap-trap, or said something along the lines of "I didn't prepare for that!" It's impossible to have a normal debate with him.
His "I didn't prepare for that" comments were very telling. He didn't have answers or responses because all he has are the same pre-written lies he's been pushing for decades.
His "I didn't prepare for that" comments were very telling. He didn't have answers or responses because all he has are the same pre-written lies he's been pushing for decades.
His "I didn't prepare for that" comments were very telling. He didn't have answers or responses because all he has are the same pre-written lies he's been pushing for decades.
There is an old saying that applies to Kent and Matt, it goes like this. . . "Never argue with an stupid person, they will drag you down tho their level and beat you witj experience." -Or- "Never play chess with a pigeon, they will just walk around on the board, shit on everything, an strut around like they won." I believe these are apt in this context.
That actually reveals themselves a lot. These people lie. If they would believe what they say, they would not need to lie, but they have to twist words to not be revealed as what they are in front of their audience.
Mad respect for you Emma. Always acting in good faith and remaining consistently coherent and rational even in the face of those spewing purposeful deceit and utter nonsense.
Love your input re the conversation around all of this, Emma. You commented that your response went on longer than you expected, and that it was frustrating. Yep, that's his tactic and many others experience the same- Hovind lays on the BS so thick because debunking each lie takes up more time than the lie. The firehose of shit method. Keep up your good work!
It's really telling how fundementalist sort of people (religious or not) always leap to attack a woman's appearance when they disagree with her. REALLY shows their character.
While it is well understood that Hovind knows that he is lying, far fewer of Hovind's critics understand that Hovind's fans also know that he is lying, and love him for it. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
This got me thinking about whether Hitler was a christian. Apparently some people call him a kind of christian, but other people call him a neo-pagan, or say that nazism itself was a social darwinist state religion. His beliefs would be such giga-heresy because of their denial of jesus' power to redeem that I think it would be less confusing to think of his religion as a new one. I think he only liked the aesthetics, not the core christian tenets.
Emma. Yeah I have been battling with YEC and Christians in general for years now and can relate to your frustration. Unfortunately, there is no shortage of ignorant deluded folks spewing garbage and nonsense on TH-cam. Thankfully there are folks like you, Aron Ra, Matt Dillahunty, Seth Andrews, Sam Harris and etc. that will go toe to toe with these folks. So bravo!! You are very well spoken and really have knack for cutting through the BS. Cheers
It's actually hilarious that the big point he's holding onto in that video is "an overwhelming majority of the American people, polled 8 years ago, believed in evolution and not creationism." Like, why is he bragging about that? Lol
Nothing says "Christian love" like "Whack an Atheist Wednesday!" If there's one thing I've noticed a LOT about apologists, or whatever Hovind is, it's that they just lie... constantly. Lie about whoever their debating or talking about, lie about the facts. Didn't realize it when I was a believer, but now that I'm on the otherside I feel sick sometimes remembering I used to look up to these people.
..... he's old ..... let it go? I am old and I have been using the internet since I was 18, that is some 40 years. I used it before DNS was a thing, and host tables were ftped between hosts. Age is not a reason to be technologically incompetent.
"things don't get better over time" take that wine tasters. Take that people who wait for fruit to ripen. Take that anyone doesn't do everything instantaneously
Can we take a moment to appreciate Emma's response video to Kent and Matt's reponse video to Emma's reaction video to Kent and Matt's video response to SciManDan's video debunking Matt's video?
"Yes, we have observed it... via the fossil records." Yep! And in the adaptations developed by insects (faster generations) in shorter periods of time! :) The Peppered Moth is a classic retort to this whole "Have we ever observed it?" nonsense - and there are many other examples across insect species.
Let's be honest, he got the 99/97% bit wrong because he can barely run a computer let alone make a powerpoint presentation and likely didn't make it. Man I'm loving this content.
'Hey honey, you need to learn to speak without using profanity. And you're dumb'. Kent might not have evolved from a rock, but he certainly crawled out from under one.
"Dogs always produce dogs." Yeah dude, that's a feature, not a bug. Maybe undersa- oh yeah... it's Kent Hovind and Mat Powell, there's no way they want to understand the actual theory of evolution.
Mr Hovind's approach is deliberately antagonistic - trolling an opponent makes them angry, at which point they lose their cool and can lose the argument, even if they are right; this even happens in your response when you flip him the bird and later tell him to 'f*** off' - although I understand your frustration, this is what exactly what he wants. He starts by deliberately calling you 'Honey' because he knew you would react. It's why e.g. boxers sh*t-talk their opponent before a match. Unfortunately, he has a dogmatic following that respond to this.
Being an American and familiar with southern U.S. lingo/mannerisms, I will let you in on a secret. He is using "honey" in a condescending way. It's kind of like a passive-aggressive condescending term most of the time in the south. Not sure if you have that sort of thing across the pond.
Way back in the late 1990s, Kent Hovind inspired me to become a counter-apologist. He is just a shameless professional liar.
Damn AronRa, you beat me to it! I have come to the conclusion that Kent doesn't believe anything he says. It is all about the power and money.
Kent is so immature, he's like a preschooler. His story hasn't changed in many years.
You speak facts Heavy metal Jesus.
@@lynnbethechange Most definitely. He's been shown the evidence hundreds of times but still continues to lie about what scientists say about evolution
And you're one of the best there is!
Say anything against Kent and he puts you on his show and misquotes you. That's what he's always done. Classic sociopath tactics.
He is a very sensitive soul. Not to mention one of the least Christian people I've come across
Definitely consistent.
Yup, taught the Donald everything he knows, which isn't much except lying, deflecting and going on the offensive.
I suspect it is a very effective way of poisoning the well for his followers, in case they are interested in what the world has to say about him.
I think you're being unfair to sociopaths. They don't have 'tactics' they just lack empathy.
Kent's just dishonest. Which is independent of any psychopathy.
As a trans woman my experience with Christian love was reason enough to make me an atheist. I used to be an active member of a Christian denomination, I taught Sunday school,directed the Christmas pageant, and represented the congregation at the synod conference . When I came out as trans and decided to transition some in the congregation took it upon themselves to takeover teaching the Sunday school kids , took over my position as a Delagate to the synod , and some even refused to speak to me. I have come to believe that if that is Christian love and how their god wants them to behave then I no longer want any part of it!
I’m afraid that seeing people like Kent Hovind on the Internet has turned me away from religion. I’m not an atheist: I just stopped devoting any runtime to religion because I don’t want to end up being a loon like Hovind. COVID had forced a pause in church attendance anyway, so I just never went back. Because of Hovind and flat Earth people like him.
I can tell you as a Christian, be who you want to be…..those Christians are going to not go to a nice place
i'm so sorry that happened to you, my church is very lgbt friendly and I remember going to a night sermon about how we need to pray to stop violence against trans women so when I first heard about christians thinking trump was god's gift to earth it was a jarring contrast
I've always been atheist and I'm genderfluid but I often find myself still feeling compelled to defend religious people that were not acting hurtfully towards others. Granted this is probably because I empathise with them over the reason they are targeted without opening their mouths. That being that some people feel the need to take issue with members of certain minority religions choosing to wear particular headwear. I feel like they are being attacked for the same stupid reason people see fit to attack me for wearing the "wrong" clothes. So promptly the part of me that is like "Are they harming you in any way?", "Nope thought so, now shut it", comes out. I'll also defend them for honestly answering a provocative question designed to give the asker an excuse to be an ass.
I'm less sympathetic to those that bring it upon themselves by trying to evangelise to random strangers however. If anything I'd be more likely to step in on the side of the person they are pushing at and ask them to demonstrate their claims. But that is just me I don't intentionally go out of my way to engage such people but I do think anyone openly evangelising ideas in public invites a public response and as such I feel obliged to accept that invitation against any expressing bigoted ideas. Those that live and let live honestly I'm good with, even if that means they choose not to interact with some people more than they have to, I at least respect them for recognising they have nothing nice to say and saying nothing. I just hate those that feel the need to project their hate onto others.
an anglican church near me had a covid christmas church service I watched and said that not only were people of other religions welcome, but ATHEISTS as well. Go to a mennonite church and many of them don't even TALK dogma. Although the response to saying "I'm coming out as trans" would likely be "so? Get back to work". But they also made a point of saying the service was held on unceded first nation land. I don't know what religion a 'synod' is, but there are LOTS of denominations not fundamentalist and don't care about gender issues at all.
In fact its embarassing because many ISLAM mosques are not openly friendly and thats less than ONE generation away from fundamentalist countries.
20:40 Absolutely incredible. He goes from "You idiot, you believe in the majority of scientist's opinions?" to "Look at the majority of random American's opinions, it coincides with mine so I'm right" to "Look at this article stating you shouldn't put stock in majority opinion" in the blink of an eye. His viewers must have room temperature IQ!
Room temperature in Celsius IQ
Well, more like room temperature according to the Newton scale
its just amazing how some people will just take any bit of info they can and try to somewhat make it a proof of their argument
Room temperature IQ in Kelvin is still too much. Try nearer to 0 Kelvin...electrons barely moving about their skull...surprised they dont stop breathing.
@@1TW1-m5i was just about to say that if you are talking in Fahrenheit the digits might be a gross overestimation🤣
I'm from the US and it is so annoying that people like Kent get so much exposure internationally. He is basically our village idiot, or perhaps more accurately our village snake oil salesman.
It especially sucked when the village idiot was our president for four years 💀
He's not on most people's radars, only really the minority who view athiest/theist TH-cam debates. Thankfully we hear a lot from intelligent Americans (at least in the UK media) - but I'm not sure any number could outweigh the insanity of the completely crazy faction of Americans we also hear from (Trump et al)
Don't insult the village idiot like that
i was raised evangelical. people like him were revered as saints and prophets
@@dasreicht not sure that is good , considering the 'orange head tots big hands!' years ...kenny as the 'mascot' of the u.s at least reflects how its government operates in meta terms on the world stage and how its internal politics tryess to avoid the trend of informed educated younger generations starting to tinker with the rigged systems far to good to be ignored :/
A wise person once said that arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how great your moves are the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board, and then strut around like it's won. Aren't you glad that you've gotten to experience that first hand?
With Hovind it's even worse, because he's not an idiot, he's a scam artist.
He CHOOSES to play like a pigeon because HE knows he couldn't win the game if he did it properly.
@@SchwartzerAdler And even sadder, there are tons who believe and follow him enough for him to have this kind of platform.
@@SchwartzerAdler Also I presume because he makes money at it?
This is *exactly* the concept I had in mind as well. Internet points won by you!
And I guess Hovind would rather be a successful pigeon than a mediocre chess player.
In relation to Kent Hovind, that analogy is perfect.
Having Kent lie about you should be worn as a badge of honor.
Definitely. I'm loving all the comments i'm reading. I wish I could give them all a thumbs up, but I have games to play! So I'll stop it here and leave some words :)
I once tried debating a flat earther, it was fun in the beginning, but it got so boring after a while because any kind evidence just got ignored... was really disappointing, can't recomend
"any kind evidence just got ignored" Yeah, I had a similar experience because I said that a YT flat earther had an interesting experiment. When I pointed out that I had similar evidence showing that the sun actually goes down, he said "f-ck off." I quickly saw how disingenuous he was, and it was very disappointing.
Rational arguments and evidence don't work against creationists and flat earthers. If they did creationists and flat earthers wouldn't exist.
A couple years back when I was a gymnast I was biking to my gym and I saw a guy with a leather jacket that had literally every flat farther claim, like density being gravity, it was a good laugh.
Love when flat earthers do experiments and find out the earth is round and then search for reasons why they did the experiment wrong.
Bro, if they still think the world is flat after becoming an adult, they aren’t gonna listen.
Toxic levels of smugness....Matt and Kent in the same room is dangerous for everyone's mental health.
Matt Powell is the best. Someone has to be the zero on the IQ scale for reference purposes.
Just wonder how long Matt Powell wants to play 2nd fiddle, he is as narcissitic as Hovind and two captains on the bridge of the MS. Egotism is a heading for desaster.
That smugness is almost as awful as the abysmal ignorance
@@kamion53 Well Kent in going to prison isn’t he? I suppose Eric Hovind might be hurt that his old man chose Matt to replace him over Eric. It is bound to be a hell of a cat fight.
"Two minds without a single thought."
Denying evolution while the current pandemic screams that this virus is evolving is absolutely mind blowing.
Denying evolution at any point in the last 150 years or so is imbecilic, moreso as time goes on.
Exactly. How are you going to deny evolution when there's literally a new evolution of the virus every three weeks.
Oddly enough some thiests will admit that micro evolution is possible but deny macro evolution. It's just another form of the god of the gaps or special pleading.
Kent: "we believe that if you think you come from a rock...you're dumb"
Also Kent: Believes the literal word of the Bible in which "the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life."
This man has been repeating this same line, the same nonsense for nearly 30 years! He has repeated the exact same lie over and over for 30 years. It's freaking nuts!
Kent's rock references are pointing to meteorites that have been found. Scientists claim life came from these rocks.
@@user-so1wr2oh1t
Well, that's a lie
@@user-so1wr2oh1t panspermia is just a hypothesis that is untested. No scientist is “claiming” life came from panspermia. We haven’t found any meteorites with organisms.
Yea except the Bible is historically infallible, almost all the fathers of modern science are Christians and our entire time-line is wrapped around the life of our Lord and savior Christ Jesus. There's absolutely no debate among modern historians about the Bible's credibility.
Atheism is the silliest religion ever made. Why would you militantly defend a position as ignorant as the universe and all life in it coming from absolutely nothing. Science has laws. Please learn them.
Weird how modern science agrees more and more with the Bible as time goes by. At the time it was written, the "scholars" of the earth thought the planet was flat. I thank God for Copernicus and Galileo, a couple of Christians, for inching us closer to the truth of God's glorious creation.
Kent Hovind couldnt tell the truth to save his life.
Also, Kent: Stop using profanity.
Emma: Fuck off!
Love it.
Can’t believe they say you look funny or stupid! You are a beautiful, intelligent person! Keep up the good work Emma ;)
Hear Hear.
I wish I was Emma.
I would seriously buy some "show me the evidence honey" merch
😂
I said it before and I will say it again: Being featured on "Whack an atheist" should count as a life achievement.
I don't think Kent Is important enough to count it as "life achievement" 😅
I walked into a friend's home, clearly very frustrated. She asked why I was so bothered. I told her I had been in an argument with someone who said the Earth is 5000 years old... She responded, "That's just stupid! The Earth is 7000 years old!!!" My jaw hit the floor and I said, "WHAT???" "It's in the Bible". I asked "Where? I must have missed that bit when I read it multiple times."
She went on to explain that she had never read it and she's not certain the person who told her that had either... And that dinosaurs didn't exist... I walked out not wanting to frustrate myself any further.
My point, is that a large number of "Christians" have never done the reading but a solid chunk of non-believers have. These people are so difficult to have a conversation with. I envy that level of blind faith while at the same time pity that level of ignorance.
Love your videos!
Matt Powell saying Emma's "just" a TH-camr is funny, since she got 3x his subscribers.
Nice Slam dunk
Especially as Bannana boy is just a youtuber too.
I guess he prefers Hovind, who's just a liar.
+1 more now
😆😆😆
I feel like a proud parent for you to be on "Whack an Atheist Wednesday!" hahah
Emma I love your vids, I am an American and unfortunately your point of having to remind people from the US that the US is not the entirety of the world rings all too true and even we Americans who have a brain have to remind other Americans that we are not the world and that American views don’t translate to other countries and the reason there are so many countries that have issues with the US is because we try to push our views on them.
I grew up in a Christian home under a Baptist pastor that believed like KH, and forced me to attend a Baptist college, I had been questioning god from the time I was in the 7th grade, and then the first year I was in the Bible College they had a week long conference with Kent and it was the single most important event in my deconversion process, after it I stepped up my questioning of doctrine and with a year and a half was asked to leave the college and church under the guise of a crisis of faith when the truth was not a crisis of faith but rather a total lack of it and being offered not one good reason to have faith. Keep putting them out there and I will watch everyone of them.
“Kent Hovind Lied” that’s it that’s the post, that’s his whole deal lol
Newton's final law of motion: "If Kent Hovind's lips move, whatever sound is made is a lie"
Odds are you wont see this, but when Hovind calls you out and can't defend his position because of it's straw-man arguments and ad Hominids you know you stuck a nerve. Keep up your great content and calling people out for their lies and misdirection. I'm proud of you for being respectful and not just completely bashing this human dumpster fire.
Yeah, he can't argue with her when he knows he won't be able to get in the final word. That's also why he won't debate her, because when he's speaking with her face to face, he can't pause her and gloss over her points without his manipulation showing to the audience.
Omg this is the inception of react videos, Emma reacting to Kent&Powell reacting to Emma reacting to Kent&Powell reacting to Dan reacting to Matt Powell
I swear, if I ever met Kent Hovind, I'd grab him by the shirt collar and scream "NO ONE BELIEVES WE CAME FROM ROCKS!!!" He just LOVES that line...
That's wrong, atheists have never thought about that. It's biblical christians who believe humans came from rocks via magic
It wouldn’t do you any good. Many people have told him that.
@@jamesknight5859 Yeah, but it would make me feel better.
@@raestlin86 that would be why he wants to do it
Aron Ra told him that to his face on three (?) separate occasions, one of which was recorded on a debate on Ra's channel and Kent literally just ignored it and continued making the same claim. That same video even shows Aron Ra trying to get Kent to admit he's lying about the rock claim and Kent literally just brushes it off and continues talking. Kent KNOWS it's not true, but it works wonders on his gullible audience, so he keeps it
"Beware of the majority opinion, it's wrong all too often"
Nice quote from Kent. I wonder if this applies to religious opinions. What's the majority religion worldwide, again?
To be fair to him, the majority of Christians disagree with what he's preaching, and I'm guessing (I don't care enough to check) that he thinks that the majority of people calling themselves Christians really aren't.
@@RikardPeterson : agreed, Kent Hovind would certainly be qualified as a nutjob by almost every christian where I live, and most of them are catholic, indeed not actually christian from fanatical evangelists' point of view :)
When Kent decided to start doing the Whack an Atheist series I would consistently go to the episode and debate creationists in the comments, I did it enough and well enough that Kent decided to block me from posting things to his channel 😅
Nice. I'm tempted to follow in your footsteps lol
A hero or a menace wish this had more upvotes [assuming it was just debating and not full on toxicity]
@@sidclauwers5945 always just friendly debate!
@@gabrielroot4948 nice
OMG the irony of him quoting Mark Twain is so rich. Twain was fiercely opposed to religion, superstition, ignorance, hoaxes, and basically everything Hovind stands for. Among his quotes: "Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. ... The higher animals have no religion. And we are told that they are going to be left out in the Hereafter. I wonder why? It seems questionable taste."
It's also ironic that he says "a majority of the population voted for Hitler," but then, "it was probably a fraudulent election like Biden." Which is it, Kent?? Did a majority of people vote for Hitler/Biden, or didn't they? Is he conceding Biden won the popular vote?
The best part is that even with massive amounts of violence, the Nazi party only won a plurality of the vote to become Chancellor of Germany. Of course, that should be a warning about how dangerous a large, motivated, and violent plurality can be.
Apologists love to name drop and make arguments from authority from historical figures they have never actually read about themselves.
Hi. Another Mark Twain quote: " Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."
This is hilariously frustrating 😂 I feel bad for you, but I also appreciate the content, so I’m semi glad this happened? 😂
On the domestication of dogs: I remember listening to a radio lab about a team of scientists attempting to domesticate foxes and the more they domesticated them the more they began to look dog-like. Pretty interesting listen.
As an atheist and secular humanist living in the Bible Belt- please never stop calling out this pernicious mythology.
Congratulations Emma, all the work you've done on your channel to build up a brand finally paid off. Now that you've featured on Whack an Atheist, you know you've made it haha...If you want to really enjoy Kent getting utterly ruined then watch AronRa discuss him....Kent gets points for believing his is winning but he really really isn't and looks more comical the more videos appear!
*EDIT - I just seen AronRa has replied to you
*Edit (2) - You're right. Debating him would not be good for you, you've admitted you're not a scientist and it would be really be a example of "never argue with an idiot, they'd only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
Hey Emma! I know I'm a couple months late but molecular biologist here, If you ever want a few more arguments for these types of debates (though i'm sure they wont listen): We HAVE seen evolution in a short time-frame, notably in bacteria an yeast! The article "Evolution in real time" in the Harvard Gazette does a good job of explaining some nice discoveries on that subject.
Great video as always! :)
Science-Denial is a BIGGER Problem
than most Casual Watchers of any given channel realize.
Science-Channel, Debunk-Channel and Atheist-Channel
are spiritual siblings or blood-related or however-you-wanna-say-it,
but most out of the 3 Fanbases dont really take Note of that
and therefore limit themselves.
After this more-general message, i wanna add:
TH-camr Professor Dave just covered yet-another Hovind-like
Science-Denier-Club: The Discovery Institute,
while Telltale covered a looney-pastor who literally is openly planning
to "flood the Office with his Man".
Both TH-camrs added to each other without realizing.
And very notrworthily: Telltale makes Arguments
that not enough Atheists run for Office and we should seriously consider it,
especially for small Positions of all Kinds.
The fact that Kent and others like him are able to keep a large enough audience that they're still in business goes to show that their audience DEFINITELY 100% ONLY GETS THEIR INFO from people they already agree with. Somebody hack one of his streams like they do in all them movies where that happens
Exactly. It’s clearly a combination of social media doing their echo-chamber-inducing algorithms and oh, so many folk simply sticking their heads in the holy sand. I get that early-years indoctrination is a bloomin’ powerful thing, but given genuine, credible and demonstrable information is access’s at the click of a couple of buttons, they’ve no excuse.
There's a reason why all the "successful" apologists go to and are in America.
I wonder if there's a parallel thing happening in the middle east with Muslims but we just don't hear about it because of the language barrier.I can just imagine a small but tight group of atheists over there fighting for reason and rationality. The ones that haven't been executed of course...
In the West technology has certainly given atheists a voice like never before in human history.
@@TheTruthKiwi There are plenty of Englisch Speaking different faiths on YT , just go Look and you will be amazed that Foreigners can actually be bothered to create Content on a Myriad of Topics in a Foreign to them, Language.
Arguments that are based on the Language Barrier are Null and Void These days, there is even an autotranslate for Klingon so Do Not make claims you Do Not get any Info about a Subject matter because you are only capable of injesting Spoonfed Content.
Go Use the search function and have a lovely Day.
Be well
@@dirkdisselpuff7938 Do heed your own advice to broaden your own view that English isn't as universal as you think outside Western countries as education of English language outside them is often poor or rare.
English content is consumed mostly by english-speaking people; if you want content directed to a different language speaking majority (ex. Spanish, Chinese, Hindi, Russian, Arab) you'll have to use their respective language to appeal to the audience of that language, not English.
Don't take the widespread usage of English within western hemisphere for granted by assuming the entire world uses it just as sparingly.
@@NewNecro It is funny that you assume that i am a person you tagged me as.
Taking my main argument out of context provided you with a non existing argument and attack instead of ask or forbid have a discourse.
I pointed out that gaining knowledge of something you do not know is not is not hampered by a language barrier. There are more then enough havens of information that you can scavange in whatever language you what on a myriad of topics. I pointed out that the Argument of i do not understand the other persons language or can not read their script is a non existing argument since it is just about using the right tool, like a autoranslate function or translated script.
English is not my first or even second language so instead of thinking of me as a dult that has the oddacity to demand that everything has to be spoonfeed to him i am happy to report that i have no problem with actually doing the work in finding the correct tool for myself to converse with my fellow human.
Ask any immigrant and they will tell you that language is not the main or even second problem with a foreign society, it is their culture and that is in these days made up of multiple language speaking citizens and that concludes that language is not a barrier set in stone that can not be removed or circumevented it is a catalyst for evolution of a Society.
The claim the Person i respoinded to was that no knowldge was available to learn about other religions. With the big ones that is most defiantly not the case, pick one language and you will find information about your faith of choice in that language online or a good boookstore.If you want more in depth information persaonal contact with a person of faith is required and then you have a single example fo the latter faiths living worshipper.
Be well
"Stupid Emma. God nobody annoys me more than past Emma."
-Emma
Holy shit I don't think I've related to something so much in months.
Occasionally I thank past myself and warn future myself…… normally about present myself.
"Kent is proving my own point for me." This is what this man has been doing since his inception that he was a "scitentist"
If he had to lie about what you said, you know that you got under his skin as well as him having no valid answer to your points. Congratulations 👏👏👏
I am absolutely fascinated by both of these individuals. The level of arrogance, manipulation, and falsehoods they use to make their "arguments" is absolutely ridiculous. I keep running into content featuring them and everytime I just cannot believe they are real. They behave like cartoon villains.
Just found your channel. our laughter is contagious. Your content is minimum as much. Thanks, Emma!
I love debunking Kent Hovind, using Christianity.
1) Pointing out how he calls upon users to go to HIS content to learn about God - instead of, per the Bible (and the consistent teachings of Christ), going to God. (this is Blasphemy, according to the Word of God).
2) Kent Hovind being proud of representing physical violence against individuals who disagree with him. (Wrath... hmm... isn't that one of those 7 deadly... things?)
3) Kent Hovind continually calling for praise from his peanut gallery. (Those who look to the approval of men, have no approval from God).
4) A MULTITUDE of bastardizations of the Bible or the Word of God to support himself (literally the #1 worst thing you can do, according to Christianity).
So... yeah, he's bunk on every level.
hmm point 2 a tricky one considering how many murders are in the bible
@@gowdsake7103 The Seven Deadly Sins are a Hellenic Pagan idea that Hellenic Roman church fathers grandfathered into the traditions of the Church of Rome, they're no more a part of the actual Bible than Dante's Divine Comedy or Neon Genesis Evangelion.
What the actual Bible says is be angry and sin not (anger okay, but channel it positively, don't do evulz), and that's where Dr. Yoshi gets caught with his pants down.
@@autobotstarscream765 Most of the bible is plagiarized from previous cultures pointing that out annoys the fuck out of the christians
Number 3 can actually go back to Number 2. It's Pride, one of those seven deadly things. And perhaps persecution complex.
Number 4: Hovind and (Ken) Ham and their ilks have been called out by Biblical scholars (yes, those who seriously study the Bible) for misinterpreting the Bible. I watch this from the latest AronRa video.
@@franciscodetonne4797 Ahhh biblical scholars those whose "interpretation" is infallible yet they all disagree Hmmmm
You're a brilliant warrior. I know how weighty and frustrating it is to battle with people like Kent Hovind, and you're doing an amazing job of fending off his abusiveness.
Well done!
~Fan from Seattle
This is great. Good on you Emma. Its interesting how he can't seem to tell the difference between scientific fact and political opinion. Because to him they are the same.
In case of a zombie attack, Kent Hovind and his minions would be perfectly safe.
Ah yes! They both would experience that awkward moment when a zombie looking for brains walks straight past them.
@@alanthompson8515 They'll probably think god protected them. Another proof ! It's hopeless... :crying:
@@dragonmystik9120 Quite probably they would quote Matthew 27:52 as precedent, claiming that god must also have protected the inhabitants of Jerusalem (since we hear nothing more about this zombie resurrection).
On second thoughts, probably not. I forgot they have already proved their lack of cranial capacity. I doubt such an answer would occur to what little remains of their zombie food. :)
"It's okay, the lord's not real, so I think I'll be fine." Also, it _Is_ gross that he called you "honey". Great work! I'm looking forward to your next video.
That was funny he called her that.
4:50 "oh kent hovind's struggling with technology he's fine he's old let it go"
Man, good to know which demos the kids think it's okay to ridicule nowadays. "Kids?" Cripes, was that gross?
@@darkpatches For an (often) older man--especially outside of family and friends--to call an adult (or young) woman "honey" is already typically considered creepy, but to do it during any type of debate is diminutive and dismissive of her ability to be taken seriously as well; but based solely on her appearance. It's not ridicule to say an ad hominem went too far.
Ridicule: the subjection of someone or something to contemptuous and dismissive language or behavior. (Source, Google)
@@Bjornication Hovind may be the personification of an intellectual creep and being married to him seems to be no cup of tea, but he's not calling anyone "honey" to be creepy. It's to be condescending; even if in this context it's because she's younger and female. A huge contingent of the population in the American South, male and female, still call each other, esp strangers, "honey," in a friendly and, often, unthinking way. Once I got over the surprise at a complete stranger calling me "honey" or "sweetie," I found it quite endearing.
Hovind isn't from the South, but he's been there long enough to pick up the lingo. I think hearing "creepiness" from Hovind for saying "honey" is projection due to bias or cultural unfamiliarity (Or because he's old? Ooooh, old people are creepy!). He's clearly co-opted the cultural lingo for his own nefarious purposes: belittling this particular opponent and getting under her skin. Unfortunately, he succeeded. Thorne pointed out that this was Hovind's schtick. He even succeeded in getting under AronRa's skin.
I think the definition of ridicule you bring up fits my criticism of Thorne more than Hovind. Maybe it's harder to see when you don't care about the marginalized demo.
@@darkpatches If you're giving ground that "Hovind may be the personification of an intellectual creep" (if I understand you correctly), that he doesn't have a good track record with women, and that he meant to be condescending: are you saying that a creepy seeming person with a history of (alleged) abuse of women, who said something to be condescending to someone they were debating, didn't say something creepy, diminutive, and dismissive, because they live in the South? I think you're trolling.
How can you even get these people to be accountable for their dishonesty?
This channel deserves more subscribers.
Emma is really smart
"nothing gets better over time" ummm, has he forgot about wine, cheese, pickles, etc?
Christianity got better over time. At least they don't do crusades anymore.
George Clooney, marshmallow peeps, Levar Burton, skill levels with practice too! Time is good!
@@AaronEllisOfficial last time there was a crusade Constantinople got sacked.
Hi Emma. I found your channel through your Sci-Man Dan Video. I like your informed opinions.
I used to be a Latter Day Saint, and have found that the majority of religious hardliners are very intolerant of the scientific community in general. (I at least had a head start where I grew up with a family who had book club membership, and studied a book on the then understood evolution and life style of dinosaurs among other things as well as the Solar System, back when Jupiter had only 12 moons or so we thought at the time). md will poo poo the idea that dinosaurs even existed, despite the fossil record.
A great many number of the people who believe the Earth is flat and that gravity doesn't exist, like to treat the Bible as the only truth in the world. However if you look at mythologies around the world, you realise that a lot of the stories were built to rationalise the things that happened in their part of the world and were truth to them at the time, until other religions stepped in and took over normally through conquering nations and then forcing their views on others. Christianity has a bad track record on this, with the Inquisition targeting people who refuse to think their way and wiping them out. Likewise forcing religion on the peoples of the world during the various colonisation efforts.
People with that mindset will never accept change even when proven, and will always twist the narrative to their worldview.
Me, I'm still getting used to the fact that the majority of dinosaurs had feathers. Proof that as scientific understanding increases that change is accepted.
Very enjoyable video, as was you MLM Body Shop video. Keep up the good work and don't let the ignoramuses grind you down.
When Professor Powell said "she's just a you tuber" i started to doubt Emma had ever been on you tube, despite the fact that i was watching her on you tube at the time. That's the power and influence a person with his credibility has
Powell is a professor?! I thought he was just a guy who got a certificate in homophobia who wants the government to round up all the gays so that they can be executed in the most humane way possible...
Edit: Corrected a spelling error, but not the run on sentence because who cares about correcting them, right?
He is as much a Professor as hovind is a doctor or a Christian.
But some people do call him Professor Powell, he said so himself and he is clearly a reliable source......
@@MrKingdom77 lol indeed, he didn't even buy it from a diploma mill like daddy powel did, he just made it up!
I think the boy child Matty Powell needs just a tiny reality check to realise that "he's just a TH-camr".
cant believe i sat here for 30 minutes watching a reaction video to a reaction video to a reaction video to a reaction video of a reaction video
Good on you for putting your thoughts out there! My education is in anthropology. Darwin/Wallace evolutionary processes are what give explanatory power to what we see in the fossil record (e.g., early hominids to H. sapiens sapiens). You hit the nail on the head when you said that people like Mr. Kent Hovind and Mr. Matt Powell do not understand the time scales involved. That's why Lamarck's theory of change never worked - he assumed that change happened within an individual's life, rather than through each generation over very large time scales. Wallace and Darwin were aware of recent geological discoveries that established these long time scales, and why their theory works so well. By contras, there is no model or evidence (the bible does not count) of young earth.
They also do not understand that evolution is not a unilinear or progressive process. Evolution is as simple as whatever traits help a population survive ecological change persist and those that don't are left behind. Indeed, evolution can be cyclical. There is no component of evolution that says that organisms must become more complex or lead to a higher order. In fact, very simple animals like the Tardigrade are far better at surviving than humans, and will almost certainly outlast human beings.
I've been frustrated by these people my whole life. Giving them more information will not change their minds. A common trait of theirs is deficient cognition and awareness, combined with personality and enculturation that makes them susceptible to this way of thinking. Embracing such a world view is a way for them to feel in control of their lives in an increasingly complex and scary world, provides comfort through solidarity, and the opportunity to feel smart and important by standing up to intelligent people and believing that they are special because they see the truth of it all. Unless these people want to make a change, the likely never will. Meanwhile we need to do better with education and methods/services to help susceptible people from falling into these cults.
P.S. If you ever want to learn an amazing story, look up the story of Alfred Wallace and how he independently developed evolution by natural selection. He was a crazy guy.
Ken and somebody in his 'research' team.
I love your optimism.
There is a scandal coming to light about pervasive sexual abuse in the Southern Baptist Church. Suddenly when someone says, "I'm a Christian" they don't seem nearly so harmless as they would have us think.
Kent "100% of my friends are NOT sexual predators!" Hovind misrepresenting facts and taking things out of context? That's unpossible.
A good evolutionary item: look up the history of horses and donkeys. The two split, but if they mate they produce a mule. That is their close enough to produce offspring, but that offspring is infertile because of the different number of chromosomes in the two parent species.
But this is an example of one animal giving birth to a different animal due to selection. It's usually artificial selection, being that humans do it, but it could happen in the wild as well.
A mule is not a horse and a mule is not a donkey. Now he would probably complain about the fact that it's sterile, but that's part of natural selection.
Are you suggesting the mating of Hovind and Powell will produce a mule?
It's more like the mating of a mule and a hinny.
This was an aesthetic experience for me because i was eating spicy rice the exact color of your shirt and your comebacks are spicy
Marvelous response by Emma, I could really feel that internal rage that she vented so eloquently!
I'd probably break something if someone did a so poor job of tackling your points.
He's just pandering to his flock, only allowing his pet parrot Powell to speak each time Hovind tugged on his tail feathers...
Emma got a real knack for this and I'm really impressed by her calm and collected ways!
He knows he won't be winning the discussion if he shows the entire video, so he merely showed a portion of it. I think his ego wouldn’t allow it. He also knows that his followers, will eat up everything he says. Because of them it’s a lot easier to be so ignorant I guess and because he's sexist, he also speaks over you trying to outwit you.
Emma, even Professor Dave has debated him, and he got SOOO frustrated, every time he raised a genuine scientific argument, Hovind deflected, procrastinated, attempted to belittle Dave with condescending clap-trap, or said something along the lines of "I didn't prepare for that!" It's impossible to have a normal debate with him.
His "I didn't prepare for that" comments were very telling. He didn't have answers or responses because all he has are the same pre-written lies he's been pushing for decades.
His "I didn't prepare for that" comments were very telling. He didn't have answers or responses because all he has are the same pre-written lies he's been pushing for decades.
His "I didn't prepare for that" comments were very telling. He didn't have answers or responses because all he has are the same pre-written lies he's been pushing for decades.
Yes, mostly written 3000 years ago on papyrus!
Interestingly the only thing that threw Professor Dave was Hovind's reference to wattter!
There is an old saying that applies to Kent and Matt, it goes like this. . .
"Never argue with an stupid person, they will drag you down tho their level and beat you witj experience."
-Or-
"Never play chess with a pigeon, they will just walk around on the board, shit on everything, an strut around like they won."
I believe these are apt in this context.
Also
"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person." - Bill Murray
@@theroundone2388 "It is better to be thought a fool and remain silent, than to speak and remove all doubt."
Maurice Switzer
That actually reveals themselves a lot. These people lie. If they would believe what they say, they would not need to lie, but they have to twist words to not be revealed as what they are in front of their audience.
Kent Hovind: The majority is always wrong! Just look at how many sources I have that agree with me!
Mad respect for you Emma. Always acting in good faith and remaining consistently coherent and rational even in the face of those spewing purposeful deceit and utter nonsense.
Awesome to see you one my favorite channel mythvision today!!
You've made it!
I remember 2013 here in the US, we were all scientists back then.
He's like a rooster, that Kent; opens a Hovindow and sniffs the lead paint and says, "Huh. Smells like rain."
Love your input re the conversation around all of this, Emma. You commented that your response went on longer than you expected, and that it was frustrating. Yep, that's his tactic and many others experience the same- Hovind lays on the BS so thick because debunking each lie takes up more time than the lie. The firehose of shit method. Keep up your good work!
Emma Thorne reacting to Kent Hovind reacting to Emma Thorne reacting to Kent Hovind reacting to SciManDan reacting to Matt Powell. Love it xD
For what it's worth, I think you're doing an excellent job without having a background in science.
Congratulations on this important step in your TH-cam career!
It's really telling how fundementalist sort of people (religious or not) always leap to attack a woman's appearance when they disagree with her. REALLY shows their character.
While it is well understood that Hovind knows that he is lying, far fewer of Hovind's critics understand that Hovind's fans also know that he is lying, and love him for it. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
I actually hadn't considered that, not fully.
This got me thinking about whether Hitler was a christian. Apparently some people call him a kind of christian, but other people call him a neo-pagan, or say that nazism itself was a social darwinist state religion. His beliefs would be such giga-heresy because of their denial of jesus' power to redeem that I think it would be less confusing to think of his religion as a new one. I think he only liked the aesthetics, not the core christian tenets.
Emma. Yeah I have been battling with YEC and Christians in general for years now and can relate to your frustration. Unfortunately, there is no shortage of ignorant deluded folks spewing garbage and nonsense on TH-cam. Thankfully there are folks like you, Aron Ra, Matt Dillahunty, Seth Andrews, Sam Harris and etc. that will go toe to toe with these folks. So bravo!! You are very well spoken and really have knack for cutting through the BS.
Cheers
It's actually hilarious that the big point he's holding onto in that video is "an overwhelming majority of the American people, polled 8 years ago, believed in evolution and not creationism." Like, why is he bragging about that? Lol
Nothing says "Christian love" like "Whack an Atheist Wednesday!"
If there's one thing I've noticed a LOT about apologists, or whatever Hovind is, it's that they just lie... constantly. Lie about whoever their debating or talking about, lie about the facts. Didn't realize it when I was a believer, but now that I'm on the otherside I feel sick sometimes remembering I used to look up to these people.
Thou sall not bear false wittness
Kent: Ill pretend I didnt hear that.
“A dog came from a wolf” I have now debunked creationism
I have been screaming "GREGOR MENDEL" at the screen for three videos now and I think Kent may have driven me mad via proxy.
..... he's old ..... let it go? I am old and I have been using the internet since I was 18, that is some 40 years. I used it before DNS was a thing, and host tables were ftped between hosts. Age is not a reason to be technologically incompetent.
"things don't get better over time" take that wine tasters. Take that people who wait for fruit to ripen. Take that anyone doesn't do everything instantaneously
Can we take a moment to appreciate Emma's response video to Kent and Matt's reponse video to Emma's reaction video to Kent and Matt's video response to SciManDan's video debunking Matt's video?
yes, he is pretending that the evidence for evolution doesn't exist, that's his grift
"Yes, we have observed it... via the fossil records."
Yep! And in the adaptations developed by insects (faster generations) in shorter periods of time! :) The Peppered Moth is a classic retort to this whole "Have we ever observed it?" nonsense - and there are many other examples across insect species.
He really do be trying to refute you with inspirational facebook memes
I said on another video Kent saying "son" was the worst thing I'd heard, but now I've heard them say "honey" and I was wrong
Oh no, it's the jebus twins. 😆
I think of them as Dumb and Dumber.
You’d think a Christian would use a different term since “whack” means kill, and they believe in that whole “thou shalt not kill” commandment.
Let's be honest, he got the 99/97% bit wrong because he can barely run a computer let alone make a powerpoint presentation and likely didn't make it. Man I'm loving this content.
The 'Dogs always produce dogs' gave me traumatic flashbacks to the debate between Kent and Professor Dave.
'Hey honey, you need to learn to speak without using profanity. And you're dumb'. Kent might not have evolved from a rock, but he certainly crawled out from under one.
You’re right, Kent didn’t evolve from a rock. He’s still stuck as a mineral.
Emma, Kent Hovind and Matt Powell have convinced me of one thing. They don't believe what they claim to believe.
If Kent was giving me a dollar for every lie he tells, I'd be a millionnaire by now...
"Dogs always produce dogs."
Yeah dude, that's a feature, not a bug. Maybe undersa- oh yeah... it's Kent Hovind and Mat Powell, there's no way they want to understand the actual theory of evolution.
13:03 anyone notice matt powell slightly smirking when emma mentions kent’s phd?
I wonder if the Mayan Calander can be used to debunk young earth creationism.
His tone is so frustratingly condescending I hate it
Just a youtuber! 🤣🤣🤣 we love you Emma.
Bruh I watched the debate with Kent Hovind and professor Dave today and the *"dogs produce dogs"* just melts my brain out
Mr Hovind's approach is deliberately antagonistic - trolling an opponent makes them angry, at which point they lose their cool and can lose the argument, even if they are right; this even happens in your response when you flip him the bird and later tell him to 'f*** off' - although I understand your frustration, this is what exactly what he wants. He starts by deliberately calling you 'Honey' because he knew you would react. It's why e.g. boxers sh*t-talk their opponent before a match. Unfortunately, he has a dogmatic following that respond to this.
You've got a total Emma Watson persona going there. Love it 💘
Being an American and familiar with southern U.S. lingo/mannerisms, I will let you in on a secret. He is using "honey" in a condescending way. It's kind of like a passive-aggressive condescending term most of the time in the south. Not sure if you have that sort of thing across the pond.