I love your monologue at the end. I lost my husband in April suddenly. This summer my daughters and I have done lots of things with family members and have had a great time. Going for trips out and making memories that’s what it’s all about life is too short. You need to live it you only get one. Thank you Edd for your content it really keeps my spirits up ❤️
@@TheSiameseDreamer I’m so sorry to hear this. It’s hard isn’t it I feel in a permanent state of not being present if you know what I mean. Life can be so cruel sometimes. I hope you’ve got people who you can talk to. It certainly helps.❤️
You're so right edd, i tried this shoe at the local nike store yesterday and boy are they stiff and warm. I still prefer the old turbo 2, a hundred times over this. I think this one is more of a casual shoe more than a performance one
Thanks, Edd!! What a fantastic musical interlude reflective commentary on life, love, regret, longing, nostalgia and all that good stuff… Stay well and hope you get to do more of what matters most, during summers and beyond… Cheers
I don't know what Nike is doing these days. I want 2018-19 back. Epic and Odyssey React, Zoomfly Flyknit, Peg Turbo, Peg 35/36. And they still had the Next%. Not only were these shoes more functional, but they were also more attractive.
I ran ten miles in the Next Natures, and my feet felt good in them; these sneakers aren't as comfortable as the Invincible Run 2s, but they're better than the Zoomfly 5s in that department. Compared to the Tempo Next Percents, the Next Natures are less propulsive, seemingly thinner in the forefoot, and a little less forgiving because of the lack of "squash" in the midsole.
Was waiting for this shoe and I was tempted when it dropped but I wanted to wait for your review, and I'm glad I did. I think I'll go Peg 39. My 38's treated me incredibly well.
Thanks you! How would you compare these to the Vomero 16's? I've put 400 miles on my Vomeros. I am thinking of replacing them with these. And I loved the old Pegasus Turbos, one of my favorites.
I love that everyone is slagging this shoe off 😂 I love it as a daily trainer I never found the turbo 1 or turbo 2 a really fast shoe but they were great as daily trainer. Also like it’s a bit firmer with a bit of bounce as most of my other shoes are soft. Hopefully with all the shoe tubers saying they are bad, no one will buy them and I can pick up extra pairs cheap 😂 but do agree I could do with a pull tab 👍
😂 I think the price is ok considering the old turbo was £160 and I really like the upper works well for me. Horses for courses. Saucony ride is £130 would rather pay the extra £15 and have the turbo also looks so pretty
Agreed. Doesn't feel like a Turbo. It's more comparable to the Pegasus 39 but not great at that either. It's an okay daily trainer, but It's stiffer/slappier/clunkier than the Pegasus 39, not much lighter, and it doesn't feel softer or bouncier. The upper is less practical and comfortable. Basically, it's a worse version of the Pegasus 39 that is more expensive.
I think your thumbnail picture of you in the back is very expressive and tells what you think about the shoe before I watch the whole video. It’s funny and I like it.
Before the advent of the super shoes, I ran a full Mary on a pair of NB Zante and the Puma Faas 500. And, yes, the Nike Peg 36. As a much older runner now spoiled by Invincibles, Rebel V2s and Novablasts, not really blown away by the Nike PTNN, but not entirely let down also. Which brings me to the musical interlude: absolutely on point! Thanks for that.
Hi Edd! I purchased a pair at the end of year’s sale and I felt the same as you did. The midsole is inconsistent between the two shoes. I feel the left foot firmer (like 40% less bounce) and lower stack compared to the right side. I never had a pair of shoes so different. The concept of the recycled materials is good but they need to improve the quality. This will impact the biomechanics of running so I will use them as a sneaker probably. And I won’t buy any Scrap-X shoes again unless they improve this.
Well, you saved me from trying this one EDD. Since I never knew the original Turbo, I was curious. Some reviews have been more favorable but warn, "Do not think you're going to get the Turbo 3." On that, there is consensus!
Turbo 2 was my first ever ‘proper’ running shoe when I got into running during lockdown 1, absolutely flogged them to death and there’s probably still some life left in them. Incredible shoes, still probably the best shoes I’ve run in… Cannot describe how disappointed I am with this ‘reimagining’ of the Turbo… Nike are getting absolutely left behind by the likes of saucony, ASICS and new balance, and even Reebok are producing better (and far cheaper!) daily trainers. Think nike need to start listening to their consumers rather than just releasing lazy ‘sequels’ to existing products… ok rant over, gonna go and walk around the house in my Turbo 2s now and enjoy the nostalgia…
If Nike hadn‘t released any new running shoe model since 2019 they would be doing fine. I don‘t now what happened, have the wokesters invaded the develpment teams now too? I certainly don‘t linger on any of their promotion material anymore, since people who look like me are no longer represented. That’s progress I guess.
I'm SO disappointed. I never got a chance at the Turbo 2 as I began to get into running... I began with a Winflo 6 and went to a Pegasus 37 because the 36 was already out and I was looking to try the upcoming release. Love those and will get the 39! Thanks for clarifying what I imagined when I learned about the nike grind in these smh. That stuff let me down when I tried whatever it was that they introduced them on... LOVE your outro ❤
Great review Ed although this is why with your 30k plus subs you didn’t get sent a pair, as a viewer though I appreciate it though. Whatever anyone says if a shoetuber is on Nikes (send to) list and gets sent a pair they ain’t gonna trash it too much because they will be off that list for the next release. Nike haven’t released a decent show since the vapor 2 and after what they did with the alpha 2 (Rip) I don’t what a vapor 3 with their current mindset
Ed, my old turbos are still my favorites along with the Endorphin Speeds! I will pass on this shoe for sure. Hope the Fall weather comes to the UK soon for you and enjoy your time with family.
Oh dear! Actually though I rather like this one and did 7 miles on Saturday where I just got faster and faster and 16 miles yesterday - my longest run for ages. Not bad for a "lifestyle" shoe. I think I might have found my old railway firm & dry "trail" shoe as most of those miles were on one. I used the previous Turbos a lot for that but never found say the higher stack Speeds as good and so much more a pure road shoe for me. I appreciated the relative lightness. At 333g for me in a UK 13 it is more or less the same as my Alphafly 2 and certainly significantly less than the Zoom Fly 5 (388g) and bit less than the Peg 39 (355g) and I could feel it being both lighter and more nimble. Also it is has a low to the ground feel which I did recall from the previous Turbos. That feel I found ideal on a non Tarmac surface. Modern max cush max stack shoes without a plate would just me be wobbling around too much. Once on the road it was OK and going bit faster has a nice flex at the front which is ideal for my style. For sure if expecting say a cheap Vaporfly because of the "ZoomX" going to be disappointed. OK it is not going to be great in the wet but I have just bought the Peg Trail 4 GORE-TEX for those days.
@@EDDBUD Just checked back to that era (2015-7) as was trying to transition out of Boston (5, 6, 7) when the largest 12.5 just got too small for me but was still racing (even a marathon) in the Adios 1 which came up fraction longer. Good they finally addressed it this year. Anyway I tried the Peg 31, 32, Zoom Elite 7 (I had worn the earlier versions a lot), Streak 5 and looks like I managed about 100 miles in total in them so the "struggle" with Nike daily trainers isn't a new thing for me. In fact thinking about it, other than a spell in those early Zoom Elites and Pegs circa 2000 I only tended to wear Nike flats & spikes. I liked the Streak LT3 in that 2015-7 period but that was basically a spike with no spikes so only a "now and again" shoe. It was really the Peg Turbo and 4% that got me back into Nike on a more consistent basis. What were you using?
Had around 40km in them so far and, although I was so excited when they have been released and I really wanted to love them….well, I just can’t…I will use them for 50/60 Km more and if they don’t break up I will send back to Nike…Luckily I still have three pairs of Turbo 2…I would suggest Nike changes the name of the shoes scrapping the “Turbo” from it because it’s definì misleading in terms of expectations above all for all those who have loved the old Turbos and have been waiting for the 3rd version. Thanks fo the review.
re interlude, Yes of course I have the regrets , You do not ever appreciate youth when you have it as it is always our first time around the block :-) both a Joy and a tragedy at the same time. However, I use those reflective moments as a springboard of positivity .. and have ensured the second half is very full for as long as it lasts my running musical mystery tour of a Shoetuber. btw I managed to get hold of a now discontinued pair of the Altra Escalante racers for £110. (7.9oz in UK 9) light , no plates, no instability & snappy .. I think I got the better of the deal.
On fire 🔥 today ed , you need to strap on your adios 7s and wipe the memory off the turbo 👍 listen to some cold chisel on the way around 😀, will check out this Mr Richmond 👍
Wanted to like these to take a break from max cushion shoes for a little more ground feel… but with the NB Rebel heavily discounted OR even the new Reebok Floatride 3 costing even half the price of these, I'll pass for now. Maybe once it hits the outlets.
just tried it today in the Nike U.S. store. It wasn't a turbo that I hoped for.... Unstretchable upper, midsole felt like a brick, and heavy (Despite the fact that I don't really care much about weight and it still felt heavy).
I was considering sizing down since they do seem a-little long for me. I could only get away with it with a slim sock if I were to. Would you say the eventually there’s any give in the upper loosen up and stretch out even a-little?
Bad shoe, but what a lovely closing sentiment, sir. I never knew a shoe review could give me a lump in the throat… stop messing with my head, man :) Bang on with your words. Bang on.
It’s a weird time in my life as I head back to academic efforts and the summer draws to a close. Always I try and keep the child in me alive. The one who played cricket on the local park and was excited simply for an ice cream. 👍🏼
How do I go back in time to the one and only time I ever saw black 35 Turbos in one of the Nike outlets. I should have taken all the pairs in my size at the £87 they wanted at the time 😂 As a daily trainer the normal 35 was fantastic and then coupled with the 35 Turbo...... Those were the days 😎
Some of the forum posts about this shoe's quality control are hilarious and frightening. Apparently Nike hasn't figured out how to correctly measure the Glue-to-ZoomX scrap ratio. There are ppl receiving shoes where the Left shoe's midsole feels normal, but the Right shoe's midsole is like 70% glue, rock hard, and instead has a shiny/plastic texture instead of soft, chunky, recycled ZoomX pieces.
Great review as usual, Eddbud! Especially nice message at the end. I love the fact that you buy your shoes. 👍 Amazing how Nike could screw the turbo line up. I actually liked version 1 the best. I can just imagine a bunch of suits at Nike making all the decisions. Doesn’t seem like someone who actually runs would sign off on this one. 😑 I’ll pass, Nike.
@@EDDBUD I checked out some Jonathan Richman music, including that ‘summer’ song. Interesting, and I didn’t realize he wrote that them song for the movie There’s Something About Mary!
I wonder why someone at Nike doesn't think, the last version of the turbo sold well, so why don't we make the exact same shoe with slight improvements etc, but basically the same shoe.
I love mine, better than the normal pegasus and much more comfortable in my opinion. Ran better than the invincible as well. I also have wide feet and agree it’s difficult to get on but once it’s on it’s great. Nice quality shoe I’m happy to wear for daily miles. I think if you like the look just try it. I’m surprised you even bought it Edd. You were against buying the shoe months ago?
Great review and especially the heart felt andv emotional advice at the end of the video. I can contest, life is too short and we NEED to take every opportunity to pay homage to things we routinely take for granted. My story is one that I hold dear and I take everyday as a blessing and I am extremely grateful for still existing in this life. As far as the Next Nature shoe, I think I'll pass. Your points on comparison with the original turbo 2 were spot on 👍. Stay safe and keep these great videos rolling. Also, how did shoe shopping go before the start of the school year? or is it still in the works? 🤔
Thank you for confirming it Edd. I think Nike lost their way with this Turbo. The whole point of the Turbo was being lightweight, while maintaining a nice level of comfort. Most are finding this new Turbo iteration overweight, plodding, and stiff. Nothing like the old Turbos.
Obviously it’s gonna be hard to put on if you don’t untie the laces before putting on the shoe. The rubber isn’t carbon rubber so what would you expect? And it’s not like you need a runners knot if the lockdown is already perfect. HOWEVER it is interesting that it doesn’t feel the same considering Nikes using scraps of foam(hopefully not from used shoes)
Why on earth would I try to put the shoe on without undoing the laces? I NEVER do this. Lockdown isn’t already perfect at all in this shoe. It has poor lockdown and lace tension alteration.
Here's a question for you Edd; why do you think Nike don't include the air bags (like on the 39) in their full ZoomX/Carbon Plate shoes like the Vaporfly?
I bought them at Keller sport web with keller premium and got them 10% cheaper so it hurts less, waiting for them to come by friday, and can't wait to try them on, I bought white ones. Never had Turbo 1 or 2, or even any pegasus ever so.. this is new expirience to me. My idea is that Turbo3NN will replace my 4 year old worn Adidas Ultraboost DNA from 2018 for purpose of every day use, walking, going to work, and some running but still be softer than ultraboost dna... Think you compared it good to the Adidas Ultraboost. Edd you just expected to much from Turbo3NN because od great use of Turbo1 and 2. Will write another comment when my come and when I test them.
@@EDDBUD I agree that for recycled stuff its to expencive, is should be less then 100gbp or 100 euro, thats a ok price range for recycled imitation of the real zoomx..
@@EDDBUD I got Turbo3NN's today, and I am returnig them tomorrow. For me upper is ok, outsole ok, midsole crushed ZoomX ok, like that its firmer than bouncy streakfly. But big disapointment is sowed thung, I can bearly put my foot in shoe, and realy hate 10mm drop, heel strikes to much, hurts. Not worth the money, maybe 70euros worth if you ask me. Invincible2 are to bulky like a horse shoe but better than Turbo3NN. VaporflyN%2 are lot better but cost more and they are very narrow in forefoot. Streakfly's are startrek lightyears ahead of Turbo3NN, love Streakfly's. And final Adidas Ultraboost 4.0 DNA are lot better than Turbo3NN... People don't buy Turbo3NN, save your money, thats my advice and my 50 cents to this topic.
waited so long for a substitute to my turbo 2 and now we get this ughhh - I just went to Nike's shoe finder and selected a shoe for "fast speed" with "decent cushion" and "great response" and they suggested the nature, what a joke
It’s not great. The imbalance between the shoes was an issue for me. Some people said “send it back and get a replacement” but that’s not in the spirit of the review. You could get one like mine!
I was wondering if you have had any pain in the balls of your feet when running in these shoes? I have done a few runs in these shoes but I have been getting pain in the balls of my feet after a run but not during. I don’t know if it’s because the insoles seem to be firmer
No surprise when nostalgia is a disappointing letdown..the OG Clifton copy was a flop too..today is the best times of our lives,enjoy it as much as you can cos there might not be a tomorrow..my ma always said "if wishes was fishes the sea would over flow.".the best shoe selection we have is today..nice 👌 👋
@@EDDBUD Thanks. The Invincible and Nimbus and two of my favourite shoes. The Nitro sounds like an interesting wildcard option. Perhaps also the Triumph 20 which reviewers seem to like.
Check out the song 'Time' by Pink Floyd. Why didn't Nike just drop the word Turbo in the name and be done with it. Regardless of it being a shoe of recycled/reused material, there's no excuse for releasing a half finished product and ask £145 for the pleasure. Take Tribe sports and Scimitar for example, running gear made from old plastic bottles, excellent products.
Thank you for this review . It seems Nike sacrifices quality for nature hype . I feel they try to make profit not with awesome products but with nature fanatics and image . Also I feel they deliberately nerf the shoes in order to charge big money for Vaporfly and Alphafly . The only other shoes from Nike I find useful at all is the tempo next % and invincible . -- the zoom fly 5 I did return 3 times since ether left or right food the foam was softer / harder then the other or the weight difference (L and R shoe ) was too much to accept … also I did developed “runners knee “ after my try out weeks with the zoom flys … I did return all of them . ever since the pain never came back . I feel they just can’t put exactly the same pieces in hardness and weight into both shoes equally and this results in one leg compensating for the other leg . 10-15 gram + different softness can keep the body’s natural movement off balance . This was the case for me . I won’t ever buy a scrap zoom x shoe again . Just received a new turbo 2 .. got lucky to find it at eBay in my size . Awesome shoe . Streakfly in cool ;) . Cheers and have a great day And yes … summer feeling . I ask my self this question often … I should play more with my child (i have the time luckyly) I should go out more with my little dog … time is passing … another summer … . But yes it’s not easy to life in the moment is it ?
The original turbos were rocking. But this one is very much a “memory” shoe relying on the old feelings of the turbo. With little of its performance. Thanks for tuning in 👍🏼👊
Wow… i was just waiting for this shoe… i use as a daily the peg 39 and i was waiting the turbo before buy a pair of Invincible 2… now i think i’ll go for the Invincible… or don’t should i?
I only tried them on in store, but that was enough to turn me off them. The upper felt very rough. The midsole didn't feel like Zoom X. But the worst part was fully attached tongues. What is the point of this? For a company that developed multiple ways to make is easier for people with dexterity issues to put on shoes (much more so than any other sneaker company), they seem to go out of their way to make shoes needlessly difficult for people without dexterity issues.
Thanks for the honest review and shelling out your own money on this one. The background music at the start of the midsole section was very distracting, couldn't fully concentrate on your words. But have got the message overall. Maybe the shoe will get a bit better with some use.
I like the black versions of shoes :) oh yeah, I just hate long laces, they undo easily, and they get caught on things sometimes. I would prefer thicker rubber, just because the shoe would last longer. I see that shoe more of Nikes way of just reusing all their scrap from their shoes that they make, its good that they reuse their stuff through.
I disagree with you on the casual trainer bit I think there 10 out of 10 for looks in the black colour way. But I agree with you on the running side of things I don’t think il buy another shoe that has zoom x scraps in because it doesn’t feel anything like new zoom x
Maybe the zoomx needs to break in? One reviewer mentioned it on the zf5 that after some miles it “breaks in” and becomes more lively can’t remember who as I watch that many. My pair should be here today so hopefully get a run in later.
The thing that I find problematic about this shoe is that Nike recognise people loved the original line and yet refuse to bring out a new model. Instead they try and capitalise on the eco market with a dud. It smacks of fake piety which isnt very attractive!
I wonder why Nike can't just make anything simple anymore (InvincibleRun, Pegasus Turbo Nature). Get me in there for their ideas. I would make all these shoes lighter and breathable. Nike seems like it doesn't want to keep up with the competition.
This is called downcycling where the recycled material is of lower quality and functionality than the original material. Shame on Nike for charging a premium price for a mis mash of a shoe. What you beautifully said at the end reminds me of the song " Summer Skin " by Death Cab For Cutie.--- " I don't recall a single care. Just greenery and humid air. Then Labor Day came and went. And we shed what was left of our summer skin."
Sounds abit dangerous if the shoes don't match Edd, could cause some people an injury if they're wearing them as a daily. For that price, people don't deserve some junk Nike was about to throw away..... PS loved the song recommendation, just listened to it. That's going to be on my mind for a few days.
I think when a shoe is described as a Rodney Trotter shoe, that just about says it all! What I don't understand is that given the Turbo 2 is universally adored, you wonder if they actually consulted anyone about this in the development stage at all. It's baffling. And it's further proof that any of their shoes that has 'Nature' in the title is just an excuse to add extra earth credits to the price.
Seems as though everyone reviewing ANY Nike with that chewed up ZoomX, has said it feels like trash. Appreciate you wasting your money, so we dont have to.
@@EDDBUD you could consider returning it to Nike even if it’s worn. Nike’s return policy allows you to take your shoes for a test drive, and if you're not completely satisfied, they'll give you a full refund.
I’ve put 30km on mine this weekend over 2 runs. Certainly don’t feel like the Turbo 2 (had 3 pairs of those), but they are starting to grow on me. Felt nice at a steady pace for 20km yesterday, and legs don’t feel beat up today. Definitely an every day shoe, and not really suited to speed / tempo work.
Good review. Not one other review cast has painted a positive picture of this poor attempt at a shoe that should be a massive success like the Peg39 or Turbo2, they are winners, this is a loser
It’s an ok model, just feels a bit flipper like to me and the upper like an adidas leisure shoe from 2018. Perhaps would have been better to call it the zoomx nature instead. 👍🏼
I love your monologue at the end. I lost my husband in April suddenly. This summer my daughters and I have done lots of things with family members and have had a great time. Going for trips out and making memories that’s what it’s all about life is too short. You need to live it you only get one. Thank you Edd for your content it really keeps my spirits up ❤️
I am so sorry to hear of your loss Claire and I wish you kindness and spirit in this time. ❤️
I'm sorry to hear about your loss. My father died in April. It's so hard.
@@TheSiameseDreamer I’m so sorry to hear this. It’s hard isn’t it I feel in a permanent state of not being present if you know what I mean. Life can be so cruel sometimes. I hope you’ve got people who you can talk to. It certainly helps.❤️
@@TheSiameseDreamer So sorry to hear this. 🙁
@@TheSiameseDreamer So sorry to hear this. 🙁
You're so right edd, i tried this shoe at the local nike store yesterday and boy are they stiff and warm. I still prefer the old turbo 2, a hundred times over this. I think this one is more of a casual shoe more than a performance one
Lots of different opinions on this one, the only general consensus seems to be that it' s kind of a daily trainer, not a speed shoe.
Might wear it to work today to see how it fares!
Thanks, Edd!! What a fantastic musical interlude reflective commentary on life, love, regret, longing, nostalgia and all that good stuff…
Stay well and hope you get to do more of what matters most, during summers and beyond…
Cheers
Glad you enjoyed that one. That summer feeling. 👍🏼
I don't know what Nike is doing these days. I want 2018-19 back. Epic and Odyssey React, Zoomfly Flyknit, Peg Turbo, Peg 35/36. And they still had the Next%. Not only were these shoes more functional, but they were also more attractive.
Some classics rights there. They have taken a weird turn recently!
I ran ten miles in the Next Natures, and my feet felt good in them; these sneakers aren't as comfortable as the Invincible Run 2s, but they're better than the Zoomfly 5s in that department. Compared to the Tempo Next Percents, the Next Natures are less propulsive, seemingly thinner in the forefoot, and a little less forgiving because of the lack of "squash" in the midsole.
Was waiting for this shoe and I was tempted when it dropped but I wanted to wait for your review, and I'm glad I did. I think I'll go Peg 39. My 38's treated me incredibly well.
The 39 is a good reliable model
Thanks you! How would you compare these to the Vomero 16's? I've put 400 miles on my Vomeros. I am thinking of replacing them with these. And I loved the old Pegasus Turbos, one of my favorites.
The Vomero is much better and features virgin zoomx foam. A much better ride and more a daily shoe that this leisure offering.
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I love that everyone is slagging this shoe off 😂 I love it as a daily trainer I never found the turbo 1 or turbo 2 a really fast shoe but they were great as daily trainer. Also like it’s a bit firmer with a bit of bounce as most of my other shoes are soft. Hopefully with all the shoe tubers saying they are bad, no one will buy them and I can pick up extra pairs cheap 😂 but do agree I could do with a pull tab 👍
I don’t like the price. It’s a poor upper design and at £145? No chance
@@EDDBUD Agreed. I think it would be received more positively at roughly $110-$120 like other daily trainers
😂 I think the price is ok considering the old turbo was £160 and I really like the upper works well for me. Horses for courses. Saucony ride is £130 would rather pay the extra £15 and have the turbo also looks so pretty
@@MrYoward I've heard it's really not too great compared to the old turbo
I go them today for 110 dollars, liked them instantly on my feet at store, actually was surprised Pegasus is back. For summer walking in the city.
Agreed. Doesn't feel like a Turbo. It's more comparable to the Pegasus 39 but not great at that either. It's an okay daily trainer, but It's stiffer/slappier/clunkier than the Pegasus 39, not much lighter, and it doesn't feel softer or bouncier. The upper is less practical and comfortable.
Basically, it's a worse version of the Pegasus 39 that is more expensive.
But flipper like on foot. The heel is way over padded for me.
I think your thumbnail picture of you in the back is very expressive and tells what you think about the shoe before I watch the whole video. It’s funny and I like it.
Many of these are carefully created for a little cinematic expression 👍🏼
Before the advent of the super shoes, I ran a full Mary on a pair of NB Zante and the Puma Faas 500. And, yes, the Nike Peg 36. As a much older runner now spoiled by Invincibles, Rebel V2s and Novablasts, not really blown away by the Nike PTNN, but not entirely let down also. Which brings me to the musical interlude: absolutely on point! Thanks for that.
It’s an ok daily. But at £145 here it’s nuts. 🤦🏻♂️🤣
Hi Edd! I purchased a pair at the end of year’s sale and I felt the same as you did. The midsole is inconsistent between the two shoes. I feel the left foot firmer (like 40% less bounce) and lower stack compared to the right side. I never had a pair of shoes so different. The concept of the recycled materials is good but they need to improve the quality. This will impact the biomechanics of running so I will use them as a sneaker probably. And I won’t buy any Scrap-X shoes again unless they improve this.
I think it’s not really appropriate to give it the peg turbo name.
Definitely need a FlyNnit Invincible Run 2 VS this shoe!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Well, you saved me from trying this one EDD. Since I never knew the original Turbo, I was curious. Some reviews have been more favorable but warn, "Do not think you're going to get the Turbo 3." On that, there is consensus!
Great review Edd as always. Loads of detail that others seem to have overlooked. Glad that I passed on this rubbish 🗑
It’s not good at all. I shall try and get something out of it.
Turbo 2 was my first ever ‘proper’ running shoe when I got into running during lockdown 1, absolutely flogged them to death and there’s probably still some life left in them. Incredible shoes, still probably the best shoes I’ve run in… Cannot describe how disappointed I am with this ‘reimagining’ of the Turbo… Nike are getting absolutely left behind by the likes of saucony, ASICS and new balance, and even Reebok are producing better (and far cheaper!) daily trainers. Think nike need to start listening to their consumers rather than just releasing lazy ‘sequels’ to existing products… ok rant over, gonna go and walk around the house in my Turbo 2s now and enjoy the nostalgia…
If Nike hadn‘t released any new running shoe model since 2019 they would be doing fine. I don‘t now what happened, have the wokesters invaded the develpment teams now too? I certainly don‘t linger on any of their promotion material anymore, since people who look like me are no longer represented. That’s progress I guess.
There’s been some terrible Nike shoes in the last 2 years. Who knows who comes up with them!
Awesome review and awesome reflection at the end. Thanks for being you, Ed.
I was in a weird mood at the end there! Thanks for watching Dave 👍🏼👊
Nice review!
a versus video between this and the Nike Invicible Run 2 is in the offing I suppose
Thanks Ed, a very in-depth honest review. And a very poignant ending 👌
It was a bit of a deep ending! 😊
I'm SO disappointed. I never got a chance at the Turbo 2 as I began to get into running... I began with a Winflo 6 and went to a Pegasus 37 because the 36 was already out and I was looking to try the upcoming release. Love those and will get the 39! Thanks for clarifying what I imagined when I learned about the nike grind in these smh. That stuff let me down when I tried whatever it was that they introduced them on... LOVE your outro ❤
Great review Ed although this is why with your 30k plus subs you didn’t get sent a pair, as a viewer though I appreciate it though. Whatever anyone says if a shoetuber is on Nikes (send to) list and gets sent a pair they ain’t gonna trash it too much because they will be off that list for the next release. Nike haven’t released a decent show since the vapor 2 and after what they did with the alpha 2 (Rip) I don’t what a vapor 3 with their current mindset
I buy all the Nike and Adidas models. They never send me any! 🤣👊
Loved the end. Really made me
think. I believe I’ll have lunch with my parents today ❤️. Thanks Ed!
Great stuff 😊
Ed, my old turbos are still my favorites along with the Endorphin Speeds! I will pass on this shoe for sure. Hope the Fall weather comes to the UK soon for you and enjoy your time with family.
It’s cooling off a bit now which is good. Thanks for the positive vibes 👍🏼👊
Hi Edd Turbo Bud, how come nike need glue to hold the zoomx pieces together? Adidas boost fuse them without glue
Oh dear! Actually though I rather like this one and did 7 miles on Saturday where I just got faster and faster and 16 miles yesterday - my longest run for ages. Not bad for a "lifestyle" shoe. I think I might have found my old railway firm & dry "trail" shoe as most of those miles were on one. I used the previous Turbos a lot for that but never found say the higher stack Speeds as good and so much more a pure road shoe for me. I appreciated the relative lightness. At 333g for me in a UK 13 it is more or less the same as my Alphafly 2 and certainly significantly less than the Zoom Fly 5 (388g) and bit less than the Peg 39 (355g) and I could feel it being both lighter and more nimble. Also it is has a low to the ground feel which I did recall from the previous Turbos. That feel I found ideal on a non Tarmac surface. Modern max cush max stack shoes without a plate would just me be wobbling around too much. Once on the road it was OK and going bit faster has a nice flex at the front which is ideal for my style. For sure if expecting say a cheap Vaporfly because of the "ZoomX" going to be disappointed. OK it is not going to be great in the wet but I have just bought the Peg Trail 4 GORE-TEX for those days.
I think Nike are deliberately nerfing the daily shoes. Think back to 2017 and how light and usable they were then? Just a thought
I think Nike are deliberately nerfing the daily shoes. Think back to 2017 and how light and usable they were then? Just a thought
@@EDDBUD Just checked back to that era (2015-7) as was trying to transition out of Boston (5, 6, 7) when the largest 12.5 just got too small for me but was still racing (even a marathon) in the Adios 1 which came up fraction longer. Good they finally addressed it this year. Anyway I tried the Peg 31, 32, Zoom Elite 7 (I had worn the earlier versions a lot), Streak 5 and looks like I managed about 100 miles in total in them so the "struggle" with Nike daily trainers isn't a new thing for me. In fact thinking about it, other than a spell in those early Zoom Elites and Pegs circa 2000 I only tended to wear Nike flats & spikes. I liked the Streak LT3 in that 2015-7 period but that was basically a spike with no spikes so only a "now and again" shoe. It was really the Peg Turbo and 4% that got me back into Nike on a more consistent basis. What were you using?
Had around 40km in them so far and, although I was so excited when they have been released and I really wanted to love them….well, I just can’t…I will use them for 50/60 Km more and if they don’t break up I will send back to Nike…Luckily I still have three pairs of Turbo 2…I would suggest Nike changes the name of the shoes scrapping the “Turbo” from it because it’s definì misleading in terms of expectations above all for all those who have loved the old Turbos and have been waiting for the 3rd version. Thanks fo the review.
It was a chore to running quick in these past 6 or 7 miles. Not one of the top shoes
Great content as always, i love summer that summer feeling. Dreading winter 🥶
Though I do like the light rain and cooler conditions for those threshold efforts as I had this morning! 🥵🏃🏻♂️
re interlude, Yes of course I have the regrets , You do not ever appreciate youth when you have it as it is always our first time around the block :-) both a Joy and a tragedy at the same time. However, I use those reflective moments as a springboard of positivity .. and have ensured the second half is very full for as long as it lasts my running musical mystery tour of a Shoetuber. btw I managed to get hold of a now discontinued pair of the Altra Escalante racers for £110. (7.9oz in UK 9) light , no plates, no instability & snappy .. I think I got the better of the deal.
Sad sad day, been waiting for these for a long time and from your review I'm heart broken. On the bright side my bank account thanks you
Honestly they are a great shoe ! Loving mine
Can’t say it’s a must have. If you want an ok ish daily go for it.
On fire 🔥 today ed , you need to strap on your adios 7s and wipe the memory off the turbo 👍 listen to some cold chisel on the way around 😀, will check out this Mr Richmond 👍
I have yet to get the turbos back out the box. More a family car feel!
Wanted to like these to take a break from max cushion shoes for a little more ground feel… but with the NB Rebel heavily discounted OR even the new Reebok Floatride 3 costing even half the price of these, I'll pass for now. Maybe once it hits the outlets.
Rebel is good. Avoid the FloatRide run fast 3. Energy 3/4 is superb.
Came here for the shoe review left with a life lesson. Top work!
I will never be the fastest. But I try and be me as well as I can be.
Early upload from you Edd! Waited up until 3am for your latest video to drop! 🥱
Sorry I ran out of time and upload speed was snail slow 👍🏼👊
just tried it today in the Nike U.S. store. It wasn't a turbo that I hoped for.... Unstretchable upper, midsole felt like a brick, and heavy (Despite the fact that I don't really care much about weight and it still felt heavy).
Yeah what’s with that super tight opening to the shoe. Should come with a shoe horn
I was considering sizing down since they do seem a-little long for me.
I could only get away with it with a slim sock if I were to.
Would you say the eventually there’s any give in the upper loosen up and stretch out even a-little?
It gives a little but not all that much. A bizarre shoe. Who tests this stuff?! 🤣
Congrats on 30k
got these for at half the price of other shoes you recommended. i think at this point it's definetly worth it over them
At that price it’s ok
I see a Takumi sen 8 case here… it will grow on you… mellow down and blossom on the full review… hopefully 😬 Great review as always!
Not the same shoe at all. The sen got better. This is getting worse! The right shoe now almost collapses into the midfoot medial side.
Thanks for sharing, Edd. Hope that you’re having a great day.
Running early is the key to a good day 🏃🏻♂️👍🏼
Bad shoe, but what a lovely closing sentiment, sir.
I never knew a shoe review could give me a lump in the throat… stop messing with my head, man :)
Bang on with your words. Bang on.
It’s a weird time in my life as I head back to academic efforts and the summer draws to a close. Always I try and keep the child in me alive. The one who played cricket on the local park and was excited simply for an ice cream. 👍🏼
Well it comes across, never let that part die out!
How do I go back in time to the one and only time I ever saw black 35 Turbos in one of the Nike outlets. I should have taken all the pairs in my size at the £87 they wanted at the time 😂
As a daily trainer the normal 35 was fantastic and then coupled with the 35 Turbo...... Those were the days 😎
Yes a perfect combo.
Love your videos btw
Thanks for tuning in
Thanks for the videos as always mate. 👍👍
I appreciate you tuning in Nathan 👍🏼👊
Some of the forum posts about this shoe's quality control are hilarious and frightening. Apparently Nike hasn't figured out how to correctly measure the Glue-to-ZoomX scrap ratio. There are ppl receiving shoes where the Left shoe's midsole feels normal, but the Right shoe's midsole is like 70% glue, rock hard, and instead has a shiny/plastic texture instead of soft, chunky, recycled ZoomX pieces.
The left and right shoes today feel like different models!
Great review as usual, Eddbud! Especially nice message at the end. I love the fact that you buy your shoes. 👍 Amazing how Nike could screw the turbo line up. I actually liked version 1 the best. I can just imagine a bunch of suits at Nike making all the decisions. Doesn’t seem like someone who actually runs would sign off on this one. 😑 I’ll pass, Nike.
I don’t get sent a fair few these days. But I try and agree to review things that will work out well and fit the rotation.
@@EDDBUD I checked out some Jonathan Richman music, including that ‘summer’ song. Interesting, and I didn’t realize he wrote that them song for the movie There’s Something About Mary!
I wonder why someone at Nike doesn't think, the last version of the turbo sold well, so why don't we make the exact same shoe with slight improvements etc, but basically the same shoe.
I am constantly baffled by their models.
I love mine, better than the normal pegasus and much more comfortable in my opinion. Ran better than the invincible as well. I also have wide feet and agree it’s difficult to get on but once it’s on it’s great. Nice quality shoe I’m happy to wear for daily miles. I think if you like the look just try it. I’m surprised you even bought it Edd. You were against buying the shoe months ago?
The upper is overbuilt in the heel. A mass of padding that is simply not needed. It’s a lifestyle shoe if ever Nike made one.
@@EDDBUD whatever makes you happy Edd, personally I love it and it does a great job for me. Each to their own
@@tomharrety Absolutly. If we were all the same we would all play gibson SG’s and sound the same. 👊 Happy running and thanks for watching 👍🏼
Great review and especially the heart felt andv emotional advice at the end of the video. I can contest, life is too short and we NEED to take every opportunity to pay homage to things we routinely take for granted. My story is one that I hold dear and I take everyday as a blessing and I am extremely grateful for still existing in this life. As far as the Next Nature shoe, I think I'll pass. Your points on comparison with the original turbo 2 were spot on 👍. Stay safe and keep these great videos rolling. Also, how did shoe shopping go before the start of the school year? or is it still in the works? 🤔
Thank you for confirming it Edd. I think Nike lost their way with this Turbo. The whole point of the Turbo was being lightweight, while maintaining a nice level of comfort. Most are finding this new Turbo iteration overweight, plodding, and stiff. Nothing like the old Turbos.
It’s a bit of a flipper! Lots of glue in the right shoe that feels very unbalanced to the other one.
@@EDDBUD , they should probably call this shoe something else, perhaps the Nike "Recycle" model. It certainly doesn't deserve the Turbo branding.
After hearing your initial review, I wonder if Nike made this shoe so people would stop asking for the peg turbo 😅
I don’t think it will work! They will still ask for it!
Thanks for the big honesty sir. It looks to be a real loser reported by many.
Ok leisure shoe but that’s it
This review is a masterpiece 👌
That’s very kind. Perhaps not a masterpiece that will make us happy. But not all such things give us good feelings 🤣
Obviously it’s gonna be hard to put on if you don’t untie the laces before putting on the shoe. The rubber isn’t carbon rubber so what would you expect? And it’s not like you need a runners knot if the lockdown is already perfect. HOWEVER it is interesting that it doesn’t feel the same considering Nikes using scraps of foam(hopefully not from used shoes)
Why on earth would I try to put the shoe on without undoing the laces? I NEVER do this.
Lockdown isn’t already perfect at all in this shoe. It has poor lockdown and lace tension alteration.
🙏 for a non Nature version(regular ZoomX)
Yes I hear you! Let’s hope it happens
Here's a question for you Edd; why do you think Nike don't include the air bags (like on the 39) in their full ZoomX/Carbon Plate shoes like the Vaporfly?
Alphafly?
@@RowOfMushyTiT not airpods. The pads thag fit in bedded into the midsole. So not external.
Weird they don’t use more zoom air units on the trainer models. Great in the Jordan 11!
Thoughts on using this as an alternative to the Invincible 2 as a daily/recovery option….🤔
It’s an ok daily. Just very pricey for such mediocrity.
@@EDDBUD would only get it in the annual winter mega sales. Just thinking you could be a slighter lighter and more nimble version of the Invincible..🤔
They should've just made them like the pegasus 39 but with proper zoom x in the midsole like the turbo 2 and call it the Turbo 3.
I bought them at Keller sport web with keller premium and got them 10% cheaper so it hurts less, waiting for them to come by friday, and can't wait to try them on, I bought white ones. Never had Turbo 1 or 2, or even any pegasus ever so.. this is new expirience to me. My idea is that Turbo3NN will replace my 4 year old worn Adidas Ultraboost DNA from 2018 for purpose of every day use, walking, going to work, and some running but still be softer than ultraboost dna... Think you compared it good to the Adidas Ultraboost. Edd you just expected to much from Turbo3NN because od great use of Turbo1 and 2. Will write another comment when my come and when I test them.
Not sure I expected too much. Just that this isn’t a great shoe really especially for £145.
@@EDDBUD I agree that for recycled stuff its to expencive, is should be less then 100gbp or 100 euro, thats a ok price range for recycled imitation of the real zoomx..
@@EDDBUD I got Turbo3NN's today, and I am returnig them tomorrow. For me upper is ok, outsole ok, midsole crushed ZoomX ok, like that its firmer than bouncy streakfly. But big disapointment is sowed thung, I can bearly put my foot in shoe, and realy hate 10mm drop, heel strikes to much, hurts. Not worth the money, maybe 70euros worth if you ask me. Invincible2 are to bulky like a horse shoe but better than Turbo3NN. VaporflyN%2 are lot better but cost more and they are very narrow in forefoot. Streakfly's are startrek lightyears ahead of Turbo3NN, love Streakfly's. And final Adidas Ultraboost 4.0 DNA are lot better than Turbo3NN... People don't buy Turbo3NN, save your money, thats my advice and my 50 cents to this topic.
waited so long for a substitute to my turbo 2 and now we get this ughhh - I just went to Nike's shoe finder and selected a shoe for "fast speed" with "decent cushion" and "great response" and they suggested the nature, what a joke
It’s not great. The imbalance between the shoes was an issue for me. Some people said “send it back and get a replacement” but that’s not in the spirit of the review. You could get one like mine!
I was wondering if you have had any pain in the balls of your feet when running in these shoes? I have done a few runs in these shoes but I have been getting pain in the balls of my feet after a run but not during. I don’t know if it’s because the insoles seem to be firmer
Not like this but a feeling the midsole on the right shoe is slanted somehow.
No surprise when nostalgia is a disappointing letdown..the OG Clifton copy was a flop too..today is the best times of our lives,enjoy it as much as you can cos there might not be a tomorrow..my ma always said "if wishes was fishes the sea would over flow.".the best shoe selection we have is today..nice 👌 👋
I like that vibe on the fishes. I remember racing in the peg turbo 2. This one isn’t a patch on it.
Could I ask what you think are the top three max cushion shoes in 2023 ? My Invincible 2s are starting to wear thin....
Max cushion wise the invincible 3, nimbus 25 and perhaps the foreverun nitro. In no particular order. 🤣👍🏼
@@EDDBUD Thanks. The Invincible and Nimbus and two of my favourite shoes. The Nitro sounds like an interesting wildcard option. Perhaps also the Triumph 20 which reviewers seem to like.
Check out the song 'Time' by Pink Floyd.
Why didn't Nike just drop the word Turbo in the name and be done with it. Regardless of it being a shoe of recycled/reused material, there's no excuse for releasing a half finished product and ask £145 for the pleasure. Take Tribe sports and Scimitar for example, running gear made from old plastic bottles, excellent products.
It does look a bit unfinished and rough.
Thank you for this review . It seems Nike sacrifices quality for nature hype . I feel they try to make profit not with awesome products but with nature fanatics and image . Also I feel they deliberately nerf the shoes in order to charge big money for Vaporfly and Alphafly . The only other shoes from Nike I find useful at all is the tempo next % and invincible . -- the zoom fly 5 I did return 3 times since ether left or right food the foam was softer / harder then the other or the weight difference (L and R shoe ) was too much to accept … also I did developed “runners knee “ after my try out weeks with the zoom flys … I did return all of them . ever since the pain never came back .
I feel they just can’t put exactly the same pieces in hardness and weight into both shoes equally and this results in one leg compensating for the other leg . 10-15 gram + different softness can keep the body’s natural movement off balance . This was the case for me . I won’t ever buy a scrap zoom x shoe again . Just received a new turbo 2 .. got lucky to find it at eBay in my size . Awesome shoe . Streakfly in cool ;) . Cheers and have a great day
And yes … summer feeling . I ask my self this question often … I should play more with my child (i have the time luckyly) I should go out more with my little dog … time is passing … another summer … . But yes it’s not easy to life in the moment is it ?
The original turbos were rocking. But this one is very much a “memory” shoe relying on the old feelings of the turbo. With little of its performance. Thanks for tuning in 👍🏼👊
Wow… i was just waiting for this shoe… i use as a daily the peg 39 and i was waiting the turbo before buy a pair of Invincible 2… now i think i’ll go for the Invincible… or don’t should i?
Invincible 2 all the way 👍🏼
More of a expensive lifestyle shoe for me this one, Ed. Could use this for your gig this weekend if you have one 😎🎸
Yes it’s probably going to go into that sphere of use to be honest!
Thanks Eddbud. Think I'll pass on this one. You saved me some Earth credits. Holding out for the Rebel v3.
So the Streakfly has a better performance than the new Turbo???
Better shoe to me really.
@@EDDBUD thanks Buddy, you’ve saved me time, money, and frustration once again. Cheers 🍻
I only tried them on in store, but that was enough to turn me off them. The upper felt very rough. The midsole didn't feel like Zoom X. But the worst part was fully attached tongues. What is the point of this? For a company that developed multiple ways to make is easier for people with dexterity issues to put on shoes (much more so than any other sneaker company), they seem to go out of their way to make shoes needlessly difficult for people without dexterity issues.
Yes good call. Some with limited mobility will struggle a huge amount getting these on foot.
Is there a release date on these???
Out though very underwhelming.
The biggest letdown to any shoe release. I cannot think of anything positive for such an expected release.
Thanks for the honest review and shelling out your own money on this one. The background music at the start of the midsole section was very distracting, couldn't fully concentrate on your words. But have got the message overall. Maybe the shoe will get a bit better with some use.
I like the black versions of shoes :)
oh yeah, I just hate long laces, they undo easily, and they get caught on things sometimes.
I would prefer thicker rubber, just because the shoe would last longer.
I see that shoe more of Nikes way of just reusing all their scrap from their shoes that they make, its good that they reuse their stuff through.
I like the recycled premise but the upper is poor. Really poor.
Hmm, the crushed up zoomx insole i could use for my shoes at work 🤣
Perfect use!
I disagree with you on the casual trainer bit I think there 10 out of 10 for looks in the black colour way.
But I agree with you on the running side of things
I don’t think il buy another shoe that has zoom x scraps in because it doesn’t feel anything like new zoom x
Yes it’s zoomx but not as we know it.
I’d rather have them bring them back the Epic reacts 2. That one was perfect.
Yes they seem to have gone backwards in almost all shoes.
I reason those holes at the back were for a pull tab but they skipped the manufacturing stage out to get them released lol 😂 imo or save more weight 😂
It could well be!
good looking casual shoe
Maybe the zoomx needs to break in? One reviewer mentioned it on the zf5 that after some miles it “breaks in” and becomes more lively can’t remember who as I watch that many. My pair should be here today so hopefully get a run in later.
I hope that’s the case. The right shoe is very different to the left!
A little like listening to Old Shep at the end there Edd. Not too late in the Summer for a Jolly Boys outing, go and enjoy yourself! 😄🍻🍕🍨
When I was a boy…..
The thing that I find problematic about this shoe is that Nike recognise people loved the original line and yet refuse to bring out a new model. Instead they try and capitalise on the eco market with a dud. It smacks of fake piety which isnt very attractive!
Yes it should be made as a non next nature model with proper zoomx foam
Yes, but is it good for walking while wearing cool clothes?
Not even good for this!
@@EDDBUD 🤣
10:50 For our American viewers, Rodney Trotter (A.K.A. Dave) is a famous plonker in the UK.
Only fools and horse. Amazing show
great review. very disappointing to hear. was excited about this shoe. maybe i will give it a shot when it's on sale
I wonder why Nike can't just make anything simple anymore (InvincibleRun, Pegasus Turbo Nature). Get me in there for their ideas. I would make all these shoes lighter and breathable. Nike seems like it doesn't want to keep up with the competition.
Aside from the upper on the invincible it’s pretty simple. The Pegasus NN has all sorts going on!
Eddddd!
At last we are here!!! 😭😭😭😭
Yes it’s a bit of a shocker this one. Marketed as a Pegasus turbo, more nimble than the standard model. Yet not really lighter or improved at all.
Pegasus Turbo 1&2 are the GOAT of versatile shoes 👟
Yes this isn’t that shoe at all
This is called downcycling where the recycled material is of lower quality and functionality than the original material. Shame on Nike for charging a premium price for a mis mash of a shoe. What you beautifully said at the end reminds me of the song " Summer Skin " by Death Cab For Cutie.--- " I don't recall a single care. Just greenery and humid air. Then Labor Day came and went. And we shed what was left of our summer skin."
The right shoe appears to have more glue but less foam under the ball of the foot. Feels like I’m running to two different shoes!
Sounds abit dangerous if the shoes don't match Edd, could cause some people an injury if they're wearing them as a daily. For that price, people don't deserve some junk Nike was about to throw away.....
PS loved the song recommendation, just listened to it. That's going to be on my mind for a few days.
The right shoe is seemingly getting worse! Feels like two different models.
@@EDDBUD sounds awful Edd!
Strikingly similar to Adidas’ “Boost” and Puma’s “NRGY”… probably not identical material, though 🤔
I think when a shoe is described as a Rodney Trotter shoe, that just about says it all! What I don't understand is that given the Turbo 2 is universally adored, you wonder if they actually consulted anyone about this in the development stage at all. It's baffling. And it's further proof that any of their shoes that has 'Nature' in the title is just an excuse to add extra earth credits to the price.
Rodders was not without his strengths and weaknesses. The shoe just feels a little naive and built by someone who doesn’t run all that much.
@@EDDBUD Sounds like a 'ROONEY' bracelet of a shoe Edd - good intentions but lacks on the detail 😂
Seems as though everyone reviewing ANY Nike with that chewed up ZoomX, has said it feels like trash. Appreciate you wasting your money, so we dont have to.
I shall attempt to get some use out of them. It’s an “ok” shoe but still not as good as a standard Pegasus.
@@EDDBUD you could consider returning it to Nike even if it’s worn. Nike’s return policy allows you to take your shoes for a test drive, and if you're not completely satisfied, they'll give you a full refund.
I’ve put 30km on mine this weekend over 2 runs. Certainly don’t feel like the Turbo 2 (had 3 pairs of those), but they are starting to grow on me. Felt nice at a steady pace for 20km yesterday, and legs don’t feel beat up today. Definitely an every day shoe, and not really suited to speed / tempo work.
Yes it’s an everyday beast. Just wish the upper was a bit more configurable.
Good review. Not one other review cast has painted a positive picture of this poor attempt at a shoe that should be a massive success like the Peg39 or Turbo2, they are winners, this is a loser
We are on a similar page with this one…. 🤦♂️
It’s an ok model, just feels a bit flipper like to me and the upper like an adidas leisure shoe from 2018. Perhaps would have been better to call it the zoomx nature instead. 👍🏼
How is the toebox
It’s wide enough but very rigid and a little low. Closer to the peg35 turbo than turbo 2.
Lovely video Edd. I will give these a miss.
Thanks Ian! I appreciate you tuning in.
Right at midnight here
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