G2 Research R.I.P. Shotgun Slugs - FIRST! Tests
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- Using non-traditional ballistic mediums, we test out the performance of the new G2 Research R.I.P. Shotgun Slugs. I don't think we have tested a slug with SUCH a specific application before, short of the bean bag rounds. We received only 5 of these slugs so we showed every single shot. We didn't have any spares to take practice shots or correct for cameraman malfunctions.
The wet magazines were MOSTLY uniform in thickness, but we did have some variations in overall thickness. We measured the depth of the various projectiles the closest we could get. For those wishing we shot at $160 blocks of clear gel, we'll leave that to other channels so they will be able to add something to the discussion.
Check out Gy6's awesome test of the OATH Tango slugs here:
• OATH Expanding TSR 12 ...
G2 Research: (find a dealer, etc.)
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A year ago I got the g2 rip round in .45 and I had to use it once in defence to a break in. The lone bullet definitely did its job and held its name
Yes I understand, the .45 ACP doesn't have much stopping power. Need a specialty slug.
Well, I’m very glad that went “well” for you, unfortunate as it may be, but your willingness to share your experience is very much appreciated.
@@Mr.Robert1"stopping power" is a myth
@@Mr.Robert1"stopping power"😂😂😂
I bet that changes your perspective on the cost of a round! These seem like theyre worth every penny
Very cool test. I can't believe how tough those wet magazines are!
They work pretty well! The hard part is scrounging up enough magazines. lol
Well if you was Scott's size maybe you could haul around enough wet mags to make body armor lol
LOL
Hi scott
@@nicke1903 no need he's 50 bmg proof...
Thanks for the kind words about my review of the OATH Slug. Yeah these slugs look a shit ton better than the OATH Slugs...we will see;-)
Your video summed it up. Don't use o-rings as a gas seal! I think that was the cause of most of the problems. I've shared your video quite a bit on FB on those guys posting a photo of their bad-ass OATH home defense load-outs! lol
TAOFLEDERMAUS
Love the videos guy’s! Wanted to ask a question regarding these, so from my understanding you are supposed to shoot these from a smooth bore with no choke?
And the ebr slugs have y’all tried those? Think that would be the same to use a smooth bore with no choke?
@GY6vids, but still only 10 yards for effective maximum...... I expected more out of G2 Research
AR47vet aka 30 feet from a shotgun come on
Another awesome test video! Liked as always Jeff!
Thank you Jesse and Mike!!! woot!
aint got 10 bucks for a single shotgun slug. A foster from walmart will wreak havoc reliably. I like new tech, but not hype
@Bad Cattitude dump out the shotgun powder from a low brass shell. use all the powder from a .22 LR cut with a .22 LR case full of fine hardwood sawdust. use a cardboard wad on top and fill the rest of the way with .7g airsoft bbs. Don't use the real wad or it will wreck. Fill it up all the way with bbs or it will wreck. Don't use the shotgun powder or it will wreck. Do all this and it should be safe.
Bad Cattitude re-do shells with the soft pellets for airguns?
txchris_z06 10 or 100 yds too for a buck
Even cheap bird-shot will wreak havoc as these rounds have lots of power.Pour some wax into the shot and it acts like a slug and I hit pop cans at 70 yards with them our of my old Mossberg 500 tactical.
@Rebel Yell oh please, do tell me more.
This early in the morning I'll normally just add videos from my subscription to my watch later list and watch them in the evening after work but I've been looking forward to this one. Good stuff.
Have you ever wanted your shotgun to shoot $10 bills
Joseph Stalin $10 bills would be more effective.
Joseph Stalin not really. But I am shopping for a rifle that can shoot fivers.
Joseph Stalin why shoot $10 bills if you can just compress political prisoners into slugs and use them as rounds?
The problem with (up to) 10 yards distance is that the slug stays inside the plastic wad - this probably affects the stability of the slug as well as its penetration.
Did they forget "off" on the box after "Rip"?
Joe Morrell fucking lol
OK you win the comments section.
I think we're done here.
Joe Morrell 😂😂😂
Joe Morrell
They sure did. 🤣
Its a slug made for machinists with OCD.
I'm very unimpressed by these results.
I already wasn't expecting much, but this really is something else...
Agreed... bad news for anyone inside of 10 ft.... but overpriced and under performing
@@AlaskanBallistics yards*
The maximum advertised range of 10 yards is actually pretty good for a purely defensive round. 99.9% of defensive shootings happen within 7 yards, according to FBI statistics. Unless you live in a mansion, you'd be hard pressed to even get a 10 yard (30 foot) line of sight in the house unless you're looking way down your hallway.
Someone's gotta make a compilation video of Greg stickin his fingers in stuff!
TH-cam would demonotize it for inappropriate behavior
@@Sciguy95 this whole channel is inappropriate behavior, just guys having fun and shooting stuff with a good dose of science and "kinetic projector" info thrown in. It's why it's so damn awesome!
@@gweiloxiu9862 I meant that youtube would totally exaggerate and misinterpret the meaning of "sticking his fingers in stuff" like they do with everything else.
@@Sciguy95 right on
I think that's content for a different tube lol
"The only people we hate are ISIS and Justin Bieber" officer Greg 2017
Man you beat me to it x)
Love it lol
Absolutely! I think we should be dropping pork on those bastards!!
Add Justin Trudeau to that list!
Also politicians. Oh and the 1%
Honestly, I'll stick with buckshot for self and home defense. I won't use the RIP pistol rounds either, I'll stick with either Hyrdashoks or Hornady Critical Defense.
Steven Kenney Jr ehh, critical duty's. way too much bad stuff about hydra shocks, and the defense new are too light of a round
Plastikdoom Critical Duty is also the 1st to pass the new FBI tests
If anything it gives you an idea what 00 will do at 10 yards.
TAOFLEDERMAUS what ever happened to the guy who used to shoot in the very beginning of the channel like when you did the gasoline shotgun rounds
I´ll stick to living in a country where i can trust that no one will try to murder me in my sleep.
Great video. Loved the comparison with all the other types of popular rounds.
Keep up the great work.
thank you!
I hope OG let Mrs OG finish the crosswords before he shot up her magazines.
This video was great, a lot of work was put into it! Really liked the numerous tests and comparisons.
Maximum Effective range: 10 yds? They should rename these “The Cleveland Browns Slug”
Most defensive home shootings take place in close distances so this would be effective
Gregg Sanders fo real?
@@greggsanders9635 or you could fill em with 4 shot or AA 😂😂 that stuff hurts and hits a lot further than 10 yards
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again FBI has said for decades that the average is 7 yards. I think they got to that conclusion studying police involved shootings tho. So grain of salt. It's old semi-applicable data.
Ba-dum-tsss.
RIP Radically Inflated Price I wouldnt want to get hit by any of them.
I don't think they can produce them any cheaper than that. If they were greedy, they would have made a slug with more applications and able to be shot out of any type of shotgun.
TAOFLEDERMAUS I agree about the manufacture cost but it just feels like a gilded lily. I solid gold slug may perform as well as lead but it doesn't mean it's a good idea. That being said they do look cool as hell ans perform as advertised
TAOFLEDERMAUS it’s not about how much it is to produce. I can appreciate that it’s a mechanically well made round. But, the trocars are a useless gimmick. It’s like someone putting a LRM rifle scope on a 9mm pistol. The extra cost just isn’t justified. For them to be worth the 10x cost of the federal slug or the 20x difference in the wax slug, you’d have to see a commensurate increase in performance. I just don’t see that.
Thanks for the video, though. I enjoyed it as always.
@@taofledermaus Yep. First of all, copper itself is not exactly a cheap metal. And also, the shape of these bullets is a lot more complex than a simple lead dome.
@@taofledermaus what even is the application of this?
Defense? Do people often walk through normal 12 guage slugs?
Hunting? Penetrations too low for big game. Medium game would be full of bits of copper and a lot of meat would be smashed. For no real difference in how far the deer runs before it drops.
Why does this exist exactly?
Never figured Officer Greg to make a Bob Ross reference. Well done, sir!
What a nice looking piece of machining!
And thanks for the info on the Weatherby & sights, I forgot to ask last time ;)
Thanks again for the vid guys!
thanks Doc!
Well I gotta tell you this is my all-time favorite shooting show. I have been watching all different types of shooting shows and this by far is my favorite. I only wish that I could donate to you guys to help keep you going. I guess you see most of my comments are in the 3, four, five year videos and some I have watched over and over. On some of the videos I have to go back on the video just to put a thumbs-up because I forget because it is so interesting. Thank y'all so much for this and I hope you guys Keep On Keepin On. Have a great day and stay safe and keep your powder dry! PS I really wish you guys could do a few more up-to-date videos.
I can never get past the magic of shootingthebull creating a wound channel as good as (or better than) the g2 pistol round using two 22 pest hunting rounds.
nexviper or almost as good just poking it with his finger
I couldn't wait for this video. I have really been looking forward to seeing how the R.I.P. round would perform out of a shotgun. Thanks fellas you guys have such an awesome channel :-)
The more tests that I see, the more confidence I have in a plain old Foster slug.😀
Those are some great rounds and im glad there are channels like yours and Gy6 videos to show the potentail of these type of rounds thank you so much i really appriceate everything that yall do i love yalls videos keep up the great work man ☺
I love how homemade, you make it we shoot it rounds perform better than these rounds that are sold to the market
Cletus The Stud You get shot in the chest with a slug, you're dead pretty much right then.
hand crafted machining and casting compared to the bottom line.
I wouldn't buy a slug whose maximum effective range is 10 yards
Alaskan Ballistics and barely goes where it's aimed
gromann especially here in bear country... 9mm would do better than these slugs with the right ammo...
Alaskan Ballistics heavy 9mm like 147gr, +p is no joking matter
gromann yeah that stuff leads up my barrel in my glock too much... I'm using Underwood ammo extreme penetrators +p+ and buffalo bore's +p+ penetrator rounds...
do bear in mind theses slugs are specifically designed for home defense, find an area in your home that is longer than 10 yards.
Why don't the police make armor out of the plastic table?
Bee Ell I'm not an officer, but I suspect that walking around with two six foot plastic tables strapped to you would hinder maneuverability. :P
also if the table got shot, the police officers' wives would get really mad
If you lay down the 2 tables would form a tent, camping!
3ountyhunter ftw or would increase movement, two tables gives the officer a +6 in agility.
Sara B. Wan waaaaann !!! Lol
Overpriced "gimmick" round... it didn't ever fly true and stable, just kind of wags it's tail... I'll stick with cheap walmart federal foster slugs... great video Jeff and Greg!
thanks!!
Agreed
@@taofledermaus How did Greg get away with calling the brown man with a rifle "a hadji"?!?!?
I love it, don't get me wrong...just shocked he does also.
@@joemo1033 a lot has changed in a few years
Good to test any slugs, Never know what could turn out to be the next latest and greatest!. 690 kicked butt earlier! For a simple 20$ mold. I'll have to watch your 70cal ball bearing video after again. But great expansion test was waiting for this! Can't wait for yellow beast brother. They went through my steel plate....
*Hole deeper than an OG pinkee. XD* Those wax slugs are impressive in the amount of damage they create. Great review as usual.
The damage to price ratio is very good with wax slugs!
According to Wikipedia:
A trocar is a medical or veterinary device that is made up of an awl, a cannula, and a seal. Trocars are placed through the abdomen during laparoscopic surgery. The trocar functions as a portal for the subsequent placement of other instruments, such as graspers, scissors, staplers, etc.
well damn... my accuracy prediction was pretty optimistic.
Still, another very entertaining video. I love the wacky stuff Greg says.
Moses Lake Micro Armor & Gaming
Thanks man!
The sounds of rounds flying off is awesome
A Trocar Is a large hollow metal spike used to drain fluid from a human chest. It is also the name of a tool used for embalming which is used to drain the blood from the body and replace it with embalming fluid. It is usually inserted into an artery under the collarbone.
At first I thought it was some sort of weapon from Star Trek Wars or something lol
peterthinks thank you
Awesome Spiro Gira reference! I didn't think anyone past southern NY ever heard of them.
The best home defense round is! The round that kills the perp and saves your backside!
yep!
And doesn't take out your neighbor's kid at the time time :)
Lee White lol
I am always grateful when Americans go to the effort of translating their unique measurements to internationally relatable ones. 313.15°K is just so much easier to understand then Fahrenheit.
Hey jeff, everything okay? Just the heat? Seemed a bit frustrated, nervous, rushed, annoyed? Just a concerned long time viewer, keep up the amazing work! Love your content and always look forward to your videos!
Give Academy I noticed that my self hope everything is good for them
I'm fine!
TAOFLEDERMAUS good!
Love your work man. Screw the haters.
Hmm, I think I called it pretty well. It does spin a little bit, but goes sideways/yaws into a flat spin because the fins aren't catching any air until it tumbles a bit. They need to offset the slits in the front blades halfway between where they are now, so the air can flow out of the pressurized front into the valleys of the rear fins.
yup!
Great video as always. Those rounds definitely do what they were designed to do. A bit expensive, but yet it depends on whether you consider the life you are defending being worth more than $10.
thank you !
But on the other hand, ANYTHING you throw at someone out of a 12-gauge shotgun will kill in one center of mass hit or headshot at home defense distances, which are typically 5 yards or less. I can see something like RIP rounds helping in a handgun, because conventional ones suck at killing people fast, but a shotgun is one and done, and a rifle round doesn't actually benefit much from hollow points or anything like that,. FMJ is best for a rifle cartridge, because the tumbling and hydrostatic shock from the 2000-3000 FPS velocity does a crap ton of damage on a rifle caliber. So RIP is only useful-ish in handgun bullets, and from what I've researched, RIPs are decent in that area, though the jagged fronts can cause feeding issues, and they're awfully expensive for how little extra benefit you get.
Trocar
surgical instrument with a three-sided cutting point enclosed in a tube, used for withdrawing fluid from a body cavity.
I've waited two days straight for this video with no sleep at all
Nicholas Rich i am in bed on my phone, Time to see how good my guess was
So have I!
I waited 2 English fathoms.
The sound from the petals flying through the air sounds like someone in awe.
jeff and O.G. making another great video.
thank you!
A Trocar is a three-sided cutting blade enclosed in a tube and is usually employed for the task of collecting fluid from the abdominal cavity or when some such similar procedure is performed.
As always a great video guys! This slug did as it said which seems rare these days but i do agree it would be nice it they make it universal but as for range i agree that for home defense 10yrds is more than appropriate! As always thanks and keep up the great work!!!
thanks Sean!
That was worth the wait - not being a shooter😩 (from the UK - Scotland) it's great to see direct side by side comparisons. As per usual a fantastic video, in very testing conditions (Question - does temperature affect ballistic gel or clay, or would it require a much larger temperature difference?) Just curious.
Ian Macfarlane Considering ballistic gel melts under the summer sun I'd say it's effected. Not sure how though.
The gel will melt if you leave it in the direct sun. We kept it cool, not cold.
TAOFLEDERMAUS Thanks - just curious. After I posted it I remembered that I had seen the first ballistic gummy bear in a series of four or five begin to melt in the previous video. Thanks for answering Jeff (I'm guessing it's you - OG has a cartoonish avatar) take care.
3ountyhunter ftw You say that as if it's perfectly obvious but (a) I live in Scotland so it never gets anywhere near those kind of temperatures (b) I live in Scotland so ballistic gel isn't too common. So what is obvious to you might not be to someone from somewhere else. It's affected, not "effected" BTW. Thanks.
Good vid Jeff! Glad you got to shoot these.
Thanks! I was hoping to see other channels post their results but nothing yet.
I have learned so much from Paul Harrell.
For my pistol, practice rounds will be Remington Green & White box 124 grain jacketed hollow points. For my carry rounds, I will be using Remington Green & White box 124 grain jacketed hollow points. It is rare that for these "hyper" ammunitions, that you get what you pay for. Not always, but rare.
For my shotgun, practice rounds will be Federal 2-3/4" Speed-Shok 12GA Waterfowl Loads using steel BBs. For my home-defense, rounds will be Federal 2-3/4" Speed-Shok Waterfowl loads using steel BBs. These are devastating to soft targets at close range with little chance for overpenetration if shooting inside a structure, while still being able to shoot at longer ranges with effect.
(Don't have a rifle, sorry.)
Basically it comes down to consistency and price for performance. Many times I have seen Remington G&W box have similar or _better_ performance than the "hyper" ammunition, even if that "hyper" ammo has a higher muzzle velocity. One of the few rounds that did impress me was the lightweight Xtreme Penetrator from LeHigh, the temporary cavitation is incredible, but still not worth it - *to me.*
Awesome video guys :)
Survival Russia
Thanks Lars!
As usual another great demonstrational video thanks officer Greg and Jeff the info is greatly appreciated and fun to watch
thanks for the nice words Johnathen
couple things if you shoot someone you shoot them until they are dead and when it comes to rounds it's a toss up you give up range when you get it to wax slugs and buckshot or these G2 rounds but when get into slugs you get over penetration and it could be an issue depending on where you live but your range increases. In my experience with indoor or close range engagements 00 buck is the way to go. You can shoot it out of pretty much every shotgun and it won't penetrate nearly as much as a slug but will penetrate clothing well and knock a man down. Most deadly engagements happen within 20 yards and inside your house much closer. The best way to figure out what type of round would best fit your needs is to measure the distance between you and your most likely farthest shot think about what's behind it and see how different rounds perform at that and closer ranges. 00 buck and a flight control wad May be to tight a group for use in your home remember the goal is to put max amount of pellets into the target but also you want a spread because in a high stress situation your aim is going to be a little off in most cases. And in a home most people don't have anything close to 20 yards of distance most are going to be 10 yards or less. These G2 rounds are great but what if the guy is 20 yards away and running at you with a knife. A person with a knife can stab you from 7 yards in 1 1/2 Sec or 14 yards in 3 Sec that is faster than most people can even identify the attacker and draw aim and get a round off. So that in mind if your ammo only has a effective range of 10 yards it might not be the ammo for you. The point I'm trying to make is that it's mission dependent and if yours and your family's life depends on it you want to make the right choice.
Clifford Flint That is extremely sage advice. Thank you, I will take measurements of my house and set up a "range" on my property an see what is going to work best for me. Hey it also gives me an excuse to try different rounds, make stuff and shoot it lol
Good luck finding any of these or anything else really even if you did want to spend $10 a shot.....where I am in Indiana I have been told it may be 2022 before we see any .410 shells of any kind!!!
You guys watching your videos is very satisfying especially right before I have to go to work
0:11, lmao. I always like how you mess with units for us
haha
I had to look it up... A trocar is a surgical instrument with a 3 sided cutting point enclosed in a tube, and its used for extracting fluid from a body cavity. so the term fits very well.
I had to google "Captain Kangaroo." OG was spot on
We were showing our age there.
$10 a round? Seriously! They won't be selling many of these, I will stick with my cheap military grade 00 Buck rounds, they have good affect on target wether it be the bad asshole breaking in or a day at the range! Thanks for show-casing these news rounds for us OG&Jeff!
Just curious, are you guys shooting in Fresno County? I'd love to meet you two in person someday. It almost looks like your range is along the 41.
I'm pretty sure in another one of their videos they mentioned living in the central valley
Mike Trieu they're from Visalia, been meaning to ask if I can come by for some fun as a Clovis resident myself :)
They are just an hour away then. The site looked like the San Joaquin River?
Mike Trieu they're not to far from Lamore Naval Air station
I want to donate my 590A1 for a video someday lol
Dang a 20min+ episode, what a treat!! And extra thumbs up for the Thunderbirds theme song! :B
thank you!
Hey bro, I see you comment on Jay Leon's Garage quite often, what is your favorite car?
So I have been binge watching your channel for a while now and I came across a video uploaded about 3 years ago where you shot an aluminum baseball bat and talked about the energy transfer and you would try to hit a baseball with it. I noticed that video was never made. I think it would be awesome to see what kind of distance you could hit a baseball or other objects with a baseball bat only "energized" by the slug!
I hope to see it on your channel soon! It would surely help pass the time while in a country where it's 123 degrees (F) daily (thanks to the US Army I'm at the beach without water).
9:10 "Caus you do not want to overpenetrate your target"
Well, you know, it depends. :>
If she's good, well :>
Idea for the witness board that I've seen used only a couple times in ammo test videos:
Use a sharpie to circle the holes after each shot, so that new ones can more easily be identified. May or may not be worth it, but, I figured I would make a suggestion. :D
Anyone else get the idea Mrs OG had something to do with the "tons of old magazines" removal?
Tester Hamsticle, Mrs. OG actually laughed when I read her your comment. 🤣
Officer Gregg
Glad I could raise a chuckle, and warm greetings from sunny (ha!) England!
I'm the same with my japcrap bike and car magazines.
You have to keep the whole mag for that one page of information you may need in five years from now when you could but probably not he possibly be stuck between two nearly identical things you couldn't possibly need for the car/bike/gun you've probably spent too much on already...
Tester Hamsticle, exactly. Some of these were from 2003 and maybe older! No need to keep them now, that's what the internet's for! It's just my OCD wants. E to hang on to them because they were such fun all those years ago.
Guys, I just had this idea watching this at 2:52 AM, hope you guys give it a try.
Could you guys try making homemade 12 ga versions of the .410 PDX1 Defender shells? cut a wax slug in to quarters or thirds and load them along with buckshot, so you get a solid projectile and some extra bits flying around, see what ratio of wax slug-buckshot works best.
Really like the channel, backyard science at it's finest.
I got here early and so I get to say my opinion.
Jeff is handsome.
I think you are the only person to see me walking in the background. lol
C&Rsenal TIMESTAMP?
0:07
Great video guys! G2 has some nice stuff!
40 degree Celcius heat? Yeah, sure i'm gonna wear black t-shirt.
He do it
Only to hide the sweat marks
Yeah. After being in this heat myself I know exactly why Arabs invented that all white clothing...
Real men wear black because we are batman
Interesting desert peoples wear black, as it works well in the shade and is identical in the sun. white clothes are more insulating as they reflect radiation back to the body, so the benefit of reflecting the sun's rays cancels out. Black CLOTHES are hotter - but you inside are cooler. So the man in the desert they made test it says. also don't just wear shorts.
Were used to the heat and cold in California..
Great video liked the wax slug. Was told by a guy from the south that for a cheap slug they take their pocket knife and cut the plastic at the base of the shell on birdshot just enough so that the whole plastic and all go out the barrel like a poor man's slug but have never tried it. Maybe that's something you guys could prove or disprove? You guys are awesome. The shotgun is probably the most versatile gun available for a reasonable price.
Louis Bonasera Go watch Iraqveteran8888 videos about cut shells.
Anthony Desisto thanks That's awesome
Anthony Desisto Seriously I have to thank you for turning me on to his sight I've been having fun watching his vids. Thanks again Lou
I sexually identify as officer Greg. If you disagree then you are a gregophobe. I want to try one of those riperoni slugs so intruders can say pasta la vista
Ricky Cardenas Not funny
Savage. Wow, I didn't realize overused copypastas weren't funny. You must want a medal for your discovery
Yes it was
Hello. I am a person who has difficulty understanding irony and sarcasm when using english text. I must say that your use of words sounds offensive and I must therefore text my opinion of such.
(Nah... just F'n with yah.... keep identifying sexually as officer Greg!! He'd be an awesome Greg-friend).
Ill be your friend.
Hey guys loved the video very interesting, I don't know what it is with some people when they do these types of videos they try to put to much flair than there needs to be you guys straight foward relaxed I don't know how long you have been doing these but keep it up btw I'm new to your channel wish I found you long time ago ...
P.S. The WAX shotgun round , You mentioned it to be D.I.Y , so you create these rounds ?
So is there anyway to tell me how you go about it now I haven't watch this whole video yet but up to the Wax round that interest me the most it done massive damage to me ... if you recommend better by all means ...
Hey thanks again ...
(0:10) Am I the only one that noticed Taofledermaus shows himself?!
psygn0sis, seems like you are!
Lol Jeff has definitely showed himself before
Hey, Jeff, I have a pretty decent idea. Please hear me out here, but in the future when you get more of these slugs, try filling the empty space in the shell with wax just as you do with a birdshot shell. My hypothesis is that it may reduce air resistance and allow for the round to go further with more accuracy. Maybe even try something such as silly putty or hot glue. Once again, great vid!
I doubt we'll ever shoot these again. thanks!
Not bad! Not bad at all! Thats a round for people that just have to have a Cadillac. Well.....I'll stick to my cheaper Chevy. It still gets the job done, but a hell of a lot cheaper!! Great video Jeff And OG. Nice that you did the comparison with the other stuff. 👍🏻. 🇺🇸😎
I wish I had a few more of them so we could have tried them out of my Mossberg, etc. I think they will sell plenty of these, but I can't afford them either!
TAOFLEDERMAUS I dunno. I think anyone could afford a box of them. I plan on picking up a box, loading them into my bedside shotgun and hoping that I never need to use them. the same as my bedside shotgun. These aren't range or hunting rounds so you shouldn't be buying 3-7 boxes a year.
these are like land mines. you buy them once and if your replacing them more than once then you're in a situation that is inadequate for the protection the land mine provides.... so I've heard.
that's a good point!
TAOFLEDERMAUS kinda sad they will sell a bunch. These slugs are garbage. Isnt the point of a gun to stay far away and be able to kill? These arent even 100% accurate at more than 5 yards. I cant think of any use for these besides wasting money. Anyways good video as always jeff and greg
Ro Bc well these are designed to be home defensive rounds. the slug is designed to shread on impact and dump all it's energy so that it doesn't go through your target and the walls behind it that could have your children, neighbors, wife, husband, etc.. in a home defense situation the longest shot you will probable have is about 20-25 ft. these are accurate to 10yds or 30ft. unless you live in an 8000+ sqft house there will be no occasion you will shoot over 30ft with this round.
Remington made a slug like that years back.
My uncle found them and gave me a box of 5. Ask me to try them out see what I thought of them.
2 for sighting in 100 yards within an inch. Third round I hit 160 lb whitetail at about 75 yards. Hit him just above and in back of the heart.
It took out both shoulders, the whole rib cage on the exit side half on entrance side, third of the back strap was junk and shell shock went halfway up the neck. The organs were like a gelatinous blob.
The last two were used to cut down trees.
Fill one of the RIP slugs with wax
That'd be cool
The swat shot was outstanding I'm in a shotgun state so it is good to watch the different loads thank you the slow mo is great
Tremendous lethality with a 12 gauge at close quarters with any round. I probably would just stick with the wax slug since collateral damage is my main concern in a home defense situation. Thanks guys
When did Greg start referring to himself in the third person...
Fred Rogers when he transcended personhood and became an OG
I feel like they are bsing you a bit when it comes to the optimal distance. those slugs tumbled before they hit the target, since they didn't hit the target head on, the petals would not flower out how you expect the, rather they would all go to one side, and possibly not spread out at all.
we are the taoflederers
Hey guys I just wanted to Thank you all for the videos of research and target shooting that I enjoy doing on a regular basis so Thanks again for all the videos and information.
Take care and God Bless
thanks for the nice words Henry
I've been looking forward to this one... **watches**
Okay, I'm not gonna even joke about "home defense" here.. These are straight up expensive, wonderful murder machines :)
Disclaimer: Don't commit murder, kids... it's not nice.
lol
the trocar , is a long, sharpened tube, hooked to a vacuum, & used by morticians, to puncture a cadaver's lower abdomen, and suck out any internal fluids, or organs, & goop that would hasten decomposition. Its also used to puncture the human diaphragm & the heart lungs, etc & suck out any liquids in them as well. it is used in normal surgery too. you CAN find videos on youtube of it being used by a mortician BTW ;) if your curious.
Dude you STILL need new ballistic gel
I'm still not Bruce Wayne
Savage. Don't worry, he also bypasses an offer to pay for new gel, back in January. Among his reasons was this isn't a "ballistic" channel. He even put it in the opening, after turning down offer.
I understand, but trying to help the channel for free, is still free. Oh well! The money went elsewhere.....
PV2Omni I also tried offering free ballistic gel to him and got turned down. He says he's not a ballistic channel so why's he even shooting ballistic gel to begin with? If you're going to shoot it, why not shoot it so we CAN SEE what happened?
Savage. Yeah, it doesn't make much sense! Especially, when he's pulling the "I can't afford it", now. Have some balls, pick a story, and stick to it!
Other than that, I still like the channel, and support it through Patreon.
Suuuure you aren't, Mr. Taofledermausmann ..... suuuuuure you're not.
Fyi a trocar is a surgical instrument with a three-sided cutting point enclosed in a tube, used for withdrawing fluid from a body cavity. Most commonly used by embalmers in the funeral industry. Interesting round more suitable to close range situations it seems.
It did look like Capt. Kangaroo! Lol!
lol yep!
I applaud the effort to try to improve on older slug designs but it just hasn't happened yet.
104 degrees & the man wears a BLACK heatsink shirt? He IS a glutton for punishment!! Id freikin IGNITE!! :))
I always wear a black shirt so it don't get reflection on the camera display.
That round is a NUKE.
Crazy how explosive it is!
HaHa! the Captain Kangaroo reference was awesome.
Greg is hilarious!
Finally! I can’t tell you how often i shoot someone with a slug from less than 30’ away and they don’t notice... thank god for this bullet... really solving real world problems with this thing
You’re fortunate to have such good friends 🖖🏼
You called the magazine dude a "hojie".
PC police r going to light you up.
I got my popcorn...
planbenterprise, it's Hadji and IDGAF.
Is this the real OG?
I'm two rounds into this vid and I'm in awe. That's a good 1 to 2 to 6 slope/angle. Talk about devastation!
I'm curious how a 'home defence' round is judged? Something intended to ensure death? Seems like all these home defence rounds will leave a target with little to no chance of ever pulling through.
If criminals know there is a risk of death, they might think twice before breaking into your house.
iStormUK home defense rounds are rounds designed to neutralize the threat with the least risk of collateral damage.
iStormUK, the well being of the criminal is irrelevant to the task of home defense, survival, and keeping you and your family alive and safe. The goal is to remove the criminal's physical ability to fight (or even pull a trigger) as quickly as physically possible.
Most of the time, that means disrupting the central nervous system, stopping the function of vital organs, or exsanguinating the target quickly enough to cause unconsciousness via insufficient blood flow to the head.
Their safety or well being is entirely irrelevant. In most cases, the means to stop their biological ability to fight comes with the high likelihood that they might lose their life.
To further compound issues, the US criminal court system arguably inadvertently punishes the innocent defenders if the criminal survives while the US civil court system intentionally punishes innocent defenders by encouraging surviving criminals to sue the innocent defender who legally used force against them.
These RIP slugs are actually somewhat underperforming compared to most other 12 gauge defensive offerings. Traditional high-powered slugs will be FAR more devastating than this. 00 buck produces more wounds in more organs over an area to increase the likelihood of a rapid cessation of the threat. Each of the 8-15 pellets are individually viable wounds. Combined, they are highly effective, if prone to a full pass-through, which may cause issues. #4 buckshot does more or less the same thing, but with 27-41 pellets, each of which is a viable wound that won't overpenetrate. The size of the damaged area, the density of the pellet strikes, the sheer number of affected organs, the number of wounds per organ, and the penetration of each pellet makes it an amazingly effective load for self defense within the home.
Firearms are not to be used lightly against non-violent threats. You use a firearm when a bad guy wants to kill or rape you or a member of your family. When that is the case, I guarantee that you won't much care about the well-being of that crazed murderer/rapist.
If, for whatever reason, you really do care about the well being of the person who wants to kill you or your family, such that you refuse to use lethal force even if it means you or a family member will die, then may I suggest using words or defensive tools that are not firearms, such as pepper spray. You'll likely die in the process, but at least you stuck to your morals of refusing to ever use lethal force to defend yourself or a loved one from a horrible fate.
That happens with effective terminal performance. I I have to shoot someone in my home, at that point I couldn't give a rat's ass wheither they die. In fact, you are better off if they do. They can't make up a tales about how you invited them in, and then shot them. Plus, if you maim or cripple them, or they require medical care the rest of their sorry life, they or the family will sue and empoverish you the rest of your productive life. If they die, generally speaking, all that can be sued for is their projected income. If not gainfully employed, that might be zero.
Link-That is golden !
I laughed out loud when the clay block blew apart... I am so broken! I would think the use of the fragmenting load has a very premature wide pattern. I think the Taurus Judge using .410 triple 0 buck has a far cleaner shot. After it goes boom, you own it.
Did I hear the maximum effective range of 30 feet? I'll pass on this one.
And seeing how we had a hard time getting any accuracy at 30 feet...
Considering that it's for home defense, do you need any more range?still overpriced
@@zuccx99 I'm not sure I would consider something specifically designed to do extreme amounts of damage to a person at close range "defense". In the same way that using a machete to hack off someone's arm wouldn't be considered self defense.
Notice the projectile penetrated a lot of dry paper without expansion. Expansion only took place after a deep penetration. On ballistics jell the expansion is very quick. Shoots through clothing and expands in flesh. Just the things for home protection.
2 inches or so is deep to you?
What kind of shotgun and sight was that.... Is that shotgun choked?
Glockazine brand - did you miss the part where he said twice what the shotgun was?
Just to clarify for you:
The sight was a Darude Sandstorm and the gun was an Astley NGGYU.
But really, the sight is a Bushnell TRS-25 and the shotgun was a Wetherby PA459.
LinkHyrule03 I know... I only posted this to be a jackass lol
graveyardrumblers you succeeded
TAOFLEDERMAUS yea okay but what kind of sight was it and can I download it for my call of duty guy?
For the record, I'm 51 and I've never seen Kelvin used for temperature since I was in college taking chemistry and physics in 1993/4, outstanding. 🙂 So much easier given it starts at absolute 0, 273 is freezing temp of water, 373 is boiling temp of water at sea level or 1 atmosphere/101 325 pascals. Rankine is pretty exotic, never seen that either, I suppose given each degree is based on Fahrenheit from absolute zero, it's likely used almost exclusively in the States and I'm about 5km, at this moment, North of the United States, pretty much, permanently on this side.