You are the first pro painter I've ever heard mention (1) the hardners and which temperatures you should use them in and (2) the wait times between base coats and clear coats!! Thank you for that! Now I'm going to watch your video on how to set up the gun.
Some of us didn’t have instructors, uncles, or grandparents to teach us these things. Videos like this are a miracle. Thank you for such an informative, yet simple video!
Orange peel is caused by not enough pressure to make the spray a mist. That's why factory paint jobs has orange peel to get more paint on the car by using a lower pressure to minimize the overspray.
I'm a painter for a living but I don't paint cars or even use those kind of paints. When I watch your videos it's like learning from a master.Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and insights with us.
Keep making the instructional videos... Instructional and then the practical application videos are worth watching over and over. I've learned a lot from your videos and appreciate your straight to the point and pure honesty in your instructions. Keep doing what you do my fellow TEXAN.
Never really knew the difference between fast/medium/slow reducers. This is going to help me a lot. Also wasn't sure about wait times. And little details mean a lot. Like not using a tack rag between clear coats. I was going to. This video rocks. Nice to see cool people wanting to help others instead of trying to show off. You rock buddy. Going to check out that set up the gun vid now.
One suggestion: Sometimes it's because of temp change. (working in uncontrolled climate garage environment) Time don't stand still while spraying so you have to consider the temp when you start, and what will the temp be when you lay down the final coat. Also, end of the day temps, air temp might have cooled to desirable temp, but surface temp of car still warmer then you want. Just happened to me, orange pealed aprox. half my car. Some areas are good, some bad. Surface temp was not all the same on all panels. Recommendation: Spray in the morning while surface temp is low as possible. The air temp will warm as you work, but surface temps take longer to warm. I did a black car in the am and same clear, same mix, same temp, same spray, turned out awesome. This car I did in the evening when temps cooled to 70. But car was little warmer, surface took longer to cool, and ended up with more work to do now. LOL.
I enjoy learning am you speak with confidence because of you common sense guided by experience. My brother-in-law painted cars at home. He would use two different temperatures to reducer and never get in a hurry. He always told me that are the clear coat cures, cross-links into one gigantic molecule, the next coat would melt into it and bond the same way, but thicker. Shops, techs, managers are all about time. They watch the clock to start the next job & have a tendency to hurry it up. It’s subconscious and they are trained to think that way. A truck came into the dealer with 4 cars for us, but the top two where Rolls Royce, one was a two tone Black/Emerald Green the other a Silver Ghost. Not base coat-clear coat, but 27 hand rubbed coats of Lacquer. It was $3,000 extra for the two tone in 1976 dollars. About $18,000 in 2020 dollars. Thanks for the video! ASE Master Tech since 1978 - Retired
I like all of the videos. You give us a lot of gems. Especially during the full length spraying videos (that’s why you can’t forward through it😂😂). You also touch on a lot of topics that we want to know (ones like this). Between you and sprayway....my paint game strong. Thank you for real bro!
Thanks for the info. It was very helpful. I'll be using max 2K clear coat. You clarified and verified the 15 minute waiting period between adding another clear coat. I may play your video again in regards to the right temperature zone for the hardeners used in clear coat application. In the state of Georgia we're about 80 to 93 degrees in the Spring, Summer and Fall.
Great video brother ! In the past I had trouble with orange peel resulting from a combination of smaller compressors, hvlp guns and improper technique. I was always able to wet sand and buff it out. My advice would be to stay away from hvlp guns, ensure enough air supply and dial in the gun properly for the material used. Everyone seems to be looking for the best gun to avoid peel, but I have sprayed clear flat with cheap guns and got peel with the best. HS clears will be more of a challenge than ms clears. 👍
Great video makes alot of since been watching your videos your like one of the most awesome guys that paint cars I've been watching round the world sweet and very well explained.!
In very cold weather when you really shouldn't be painting without a heated booth witch is all of us at home painters you can heat up your paint right before you spray and it flows much better without runs you would probably get without heating the paint
Thanks for the tip, some one did tell me to let an airasol can sit in the sun for a few minutes before spraying. That makes since for spraying paint out of the can or in a spray gun.
Orange peel is basically you paints to thick, add reducer thin it down ! No expert by no means but took 4 years auto body in school ! When you pull the paint paddle out of the mixing cup /paint gun it should drip within 3 seconds that about fight ! 👍if I hadn't got a very good job at a steel mill, would have painted cars ! Good luck ! 👍 loved that stuff !
I just discovered your channel and just subscribed! Great videos, totally appreciate old school painters. I just got back into doing custom work and your videos are helpful to my projects. Blessings to you Mr. Pharr!
Super cool videos I found my new hobby ! Painting airbrushing candy lace graphics the whole works , newbie for sure but here goes Lol thanks bro love the videos
But I want to do the best job I can with what I have. That is why I was checking on the 3M Accuspray system. Thanks so much for sharing with your viewers. Tandy
I'm in West Texas...and humidity NORMALLY isn't a problem (this year, it's been TERRIBLE so far)...10%, MAYBE, on average...it's the temps that will get you out here...110-115F, it's slow reducer, timed to the day (normally morning before 10-am)...orange peel isn't that bad, NORMALLY...one other thing, though...I have a dedicated compressor...and have not one, but TWO air driers on it! Why? DRY AIR is way more critical than atmospheric humidity...from my own experience. I change those things often, mine, I can dry the elements in a low-temp oven and re-use them, too...saves a TON! I can get orange peel down to where a good buffing compound at the end, and it will come out like glass! I can't imagine how guys in really high humidity areas are ever able to paint! (I'd probably have a couple of dehumidifiers running, CONSTANTLY)...
Slow reducers and activators allow the paint to self level and "flow". Many shops use faster chemicals for production not quality finishes. The slower the chemicals the longer the finish will last. The only downside to slow chemicals is you run a higher chance of getting paint runs if you apply the paint in heavy, wet coats. A skilled painter can get great off-the-gun finishes without the need to cut and buff, only de-nib and polish. An uncut finish will also last longer and require less detailing over the years.
I just found your channel! Great explanation by the way It helped me understand my issues Ive been having at home. But, I have to say man at first when I heard you explaining I kept thinking you were Fluffy "Gabriel Iglesias" and I'm waiting for the joke! or a Martin story!
Nooooooow you tell me, after I have gotten VERY GOOD at color sanding and buffing ! Seriously I have NEVER had a paint job that I didn't have to cut & buff, but getting closer !!
Texarkana here! I've been removing runs for the last 3 days .trying to identify my problem before it occurs, I agree and thanks , it's bound to be the cold air
Also back your fluid needle in when you get runs a quarter of a turn till you get the same finish but without the hassle but sometimes your going to get runs it's just part of the process sometimes
Hi Mr Pharraway! Thank you for all the vids and tips .. great inspiration! I’m painting the cowl cavity of my old 58 Chevy and it’s turn out great but later discovers a small pencil eraser size drip , . I guess it dripped from a corner of the masking tape . Can I use the razor blade technique and sand with 1500? But in worst case , after removing I’d like to just blend spot that area. Now blending I would just add 50 percent reducer to left over paint? It’s also single stage and metallic. I’m not really worried about it being weird looking when dry cause it’s in the far side cowl cavity and will be covered with the cowl grille. But I feel like it’s not as perfect knowing there’s a drip .. I know you’ve probably encountered these before. What’s you best recommendation without having to redo the whole cowl cavity ? Thanks again for you time , Frank
hey brotha always good info, id like to mention i think you'll agree sometimes too low of air pressure can add to orange peel.so that pressure setting can add to it as well, agree?
@@PHARRAWAY I do high end model cars and trucks and wanted to Produce better quality end result & this will definitely help me, you should do more videos. I will watch and learn & subscribe & 10 Thumbs Up for Truly Valuable Content explained by a Pro Painter who can teach details like temp, humidity, spray gun tips and tricks and I Know you have more experience to share & hopefully you grow your channel and do Great, well,, Evening Pharraway... Brian...
always have a test panel like an old hood nearby to test your spray before you spray the real piece. blame it on the painter not the paint. the paint only does what you make it do
Thank you for explaining on reducers and activators, im planning on painting in my garage, and other than just throwing paint on a car I never thought of these additional supplies that I would need to achieve a great paint job. But how much would you know to add? Im in the Miami area and normal temperature here is between 80-95.
Thank You! I am tiring to spray a base coat with out orange peal. I found it showing up thorough the coats of clear and color. In this case, ALSA chrome, it shows everything from below. I just watched your film on reducers and that maybe part of it. I have a qt. of Medium and the temp. scale on the can say's below 85 degrees. I am just north of El Paso it gets to 85 before noon currently. Do I just start praying at 7 am or go buy more slow reducer? Jeff Stephan
I sprayed a single stage paint and the data sheet actually told me the dry times between coats. It was 1 hour in my case. Perhaps just read the data sheet?
Hi Pharraway! Thank you for helping me with your great videos. I am doing my first spray job on a dirt bike frame. I am using Por15 2k Urethane. The can days recoat in 6 hrs but that is for brush. How long do I need to wait when spraying?
@@PHARRAWAY Thank you for replying to every single question. You're videos are the best because they simplify the process and I'm getting great results.
First time painter here.. do you add this to the paint? If so what is the ratio? Or are there instructions on the reducers? Im planning on painting my ride coming up and I'm learning alot from your videos, thanks soo much
Thanks this was an awesome video I have often wondered about mixing the different brands reducer, is it the same for hardeners can they be intermixed with different brand also
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You are the first pro painter I've ever heard mention (1) the hardners and which temperatures you should use them in and (2) the wait times between base coats and clear coats!! Thank you for that! Now I'm going to watch your video on how to set up the gun.
Thank You brother
@@PHARRAWAY what part of TX is your paint shop at?
@@javiergarciajr7589 It's south of San Antonio RGV
@@PHARRAWAY name of your shop? Im also from the RGV id like to take you my truck.
@@javiergarciajr7589 You can email me at pharrawaypaint@gmail.com
Some of us didn’t have instructors, uncles, or grandparents to teach us these things. Videos like this are a miracle. Thank you for such an informative, yet simple video!
You are very welcome
Orange peel is caused by not enough pressure to make the spray a mist. That's why factory paint jobs has orange peel to get more paint on the car by using a lower pressure to minimize the overspray.
I'm a painter for a living but I don't paint cars or even use those kind of paints. When I watch your videos it's like learning from a master.Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and insights with us.
Very well explained Pharraway. Keep dropping that knowledge 🤝
Thank You Brother 🤝
Keep making the instructional videos... Instructional and then the practical application videos are worth watching over and over. I've learned a lot from your videos and appreciate your straight to the point and pure honesty in your instructions. Keep doing what you do my fellow TEXAN.
Thanks brother
Never really knew the difference between fast/medium/slow reducers. This is going to help me a lot. Also wasn't sure about wait times. And little details mean a lot. Like not using a tack rag between clear coats. I was going to. This video rocks. Nice to see cool people wanting to help others instead of trying to show off. You rock buddy. Going to check out that set up the gun vid now.
Orange peel is a fact of paint jobs but the things you mentioned definitely help keep it from being terrible
One suggestion: Sometimes it's because of temp change. (working in uncontrolled climate garage environment) Time don't stand still while spraying so you have to consider the temp when you start, and what will the temp be when you lay down the final coat. Also, end of the day temps, air temp might have cooled to desirable temp, but surface temp of car still warmer then you want. Just happened to me, orange pealed aprox. half my car. Some areas are good, some bad. Surface temp was not all the same on all panels. Recommendation: Spray in the morning while surface temp is low as possible. The air temp will warm as you work, but surface temps take longer to warm. I did a black car in the am and same clear, same mix, same temp, same spray, turned out awesome. This car I did in the evening when temps cooled to 70. But car was little warmer, surface took longer to cool, and ended up with more work to do now. LOL.
These videos that give an explanation of the process helps us DYI guys. Great job. Thank you!! Keep them coming.
I enjoy learning am you speak with confidence because of you common sense guided by experience. My brother-in-law painted cars at home. He would use two different temperatures to reducer and never get in a hurry. He always told me that are the clear coat cures, cross-links into one gigantic molecule, the next coat would melt into it and bond the same way, but thicker. Shops, techs, managers are all about time. They watch the clock to start the next job & have a tendency to hurry it up. It’s subconscious and they are trained to think that way. A truck came into the dealer with 4 cars for us, but the top two where Rolls Royce, one was a two tone Black/Emerald Green the other a Silver Ghost. Not base coat-clear coat, but 27 hand rubbed coats of Lacquer. It was $3,000 extra for the two tone in 1976 dollars. About $18,000 in 2020 dollars. Thanks for the video!
ASE Master Tech since 1978 - Retired
All those reducer and room temperature/mixing sure play the role,but one thing I've learned different paint gun brands have different texture as well
I paint in Alabama and we use slow reducer with any and all silver paint. Gives it plenty of time to disperse
Broke it down very nicely, straight to the point. Keep it up!
Thank you I guess it's always good to have two different reducers on hand and that 20 minutes after base coat and before clothes clear
You are correct
I like all of the videos. You give us a lot of gems. Especially during the full length spraying videos (that’s why you can’t forward through it😂😂). You also touch on a lot of topics that we want to know (ones like this). Between you and sprayway....my paint game strong. Thank you for real bro!
Thank You brother GOD BLESS
Thanks for the info. It was very helpful. I'll be using max 2K clear coat. You clarified and verified the 15 minute waiting period between adding another clear coat. I may play your video again in regards to the right temperature zone for the hardeners used in clear coat application. In the state of Georgia we're about 80 to 93 degrees in the Spring, Summer and Fall.
sounds good brother
Great video brother ! In the past I had trouble with orange peel resulting from a combination of smaller compressors, hvlp guns and improper technique. I was always able to wet sand and buff it out. My advice would be to stay away from hvlp guns, ensure enough air supply and dial in the gun properly for the material used. Everyone seems to be looking for the best gun to avoid peel, but I have sprayed clear flat with cheap guns and got peel with the best. HS clears will be more of a challenge than ms clears. 👍
True Thanks
I do like hearing info that will help me do a better spray job.
Yes
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I like your videos. You do nice work. You're trying to improve all the time.
Great video makes alot of since been watching your videos your like one of the most awesome guys that paint cars I've been watching round the world sweet and very well explained.!
Awesome! Thank you!
Excellent teaching my friend....not over everyone's head nor too simplistic
Thank you
In very cold weather when you really shouldn't be painting without a heated booth witch is all of us at home painters you can heat up your paint right before you spray and it flows much better without runs you would probably get without heating the paint
Thank You nice tip
Thanks for the tip, some one did tell me to let an airasol can sit in the sun for a few minutes before spraying. That makes since for spraying paint out of the can or in a spray gun.
It would be nice to combine painting with the information. Show the results of some different hardeners, reducers, gun settings, etc.
YESSIR THANKS FOR ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!! ❤️❤️❤️ straight love fam
Anytime brother
Rock solid content as always...like both the tips and full paint project....keep it up.
Thank You
Orange peel is basically you paints to thick, add reducer thin it down ! No expert by no means but took 4 years auto body in school ! When you pull the paint paddle out of the mixing cup /paint gun it should drip within 3 seconds that about fight ! 👍if I hadn't got a very good job at a steel mill, would have painted cars ! Good luck ! 👍 loved that stuff !
I just discovered your channel and just subscribed! Great videos, totally appreciate old school painters. I just got back into doing custom work and your videos are helpful to my projects. Blessings to you Mr. Pharr!
Thanks brother
Thank you brother times between coats of clear come very useful
anytime brother
Super cool videos I found my new hobby ! Painting airbrushing candy lace graphics the whole works , newbie for sure but here goes Lol thanks bro love the videos
But I want to do the best job I can with what I have. That is why I was checking on the 3M Accuspray system. Thanks so much for sharing with your viewers.
Tandy
Anytime you can go with the black widow 1.3 tip by harbor freight it's an excellent gun
I'm in West Texas...and humidity NORMALLY isn't a problem (this year, it's been TERRIBLE so far)...10%, MAYBE, on average...it's the temps that will get you out here...110-115F, it's slow reducer, timed to the day (normally morning before 10-am)...orange peel isn't that bad, NORMALLY...one other thing, though...I have a dedicated compressor...and have not one, but TWO air driers on it! Why? DRY AIR is way more critical than atmospheric humidity...from my own experience. I change those things often, mine, I can dry the elements in a low-temp oven and re-use them, too...saves a TON! I can get orange peel down to where a good buffing compound at the end, and it will come out like glass! I can't imagine how guys in really high humidity areas are ever able to paint! (I'd probably have a couple of dehumidifiers running, CONSTANTLY)...
Hey bro , your recent videos are awesome and really helpful .
Kindly continue this .
I was hoping people will like it
Good tips brother👍🏾👍🏾💯
Thank you brother
Thanks for all the great tips
Slow reducer"s will work better to allow more chemicals to be released from the paint, use a good paint gun that adomizes good
*atomizes
Slow reducers and activators allow the paint to self level and "flow". Many shops use faster chemicals for production not quality finishes. The slower the chemicals the longer the finish will last. The only downside to slow chemicals is you run a higher chance of getting paint runs if you apply the paint in heavy, wet coats. A skilled painter can get great off-the-gun finishes without the need to cut and buff, only de-nib and polish. An uncut finish will also last longer and require less detailing over the years.
Pharraway is a pro. Id invest in you and put you in a shop if i were closer to you lol. Good video man!
Thank You brother
Thanks for the tips!! I needed that🔥🔥🔥
No problem!!
I just found your channel! Great explanation by the way It helped me understand my issues Ive been having at home. But, I have to say man at first when I heard you explaining I kept thinking you were Fluffy "Gabriel Iglesias" and I'm waiting for the joke! or a Martin story!
I appreciate any learning videos. But also any other cool things your working on!
Thank You will do
Nooooooow you tell me, after I have gotten VERY GOOD at color sanding and buffing ! Seriously I have NEVER had a paint job that I didn't have to cut & buff, but getting closer !!
LOL Thank You
Thought it was Gabriel Iglesias because of the voice lol nice video! 👌🏽
Good video man, I appreciate the information.
I am just a novice painter and have one old truck I am working on so I do not need nor can I afford an expensive paint system
Great awesome; information, mixing up videos is always better than just painting videos.!👌
Glad you enjoyed it
This video was important to me as I had made mistake s and learned from it thank you
Thank You brother keep on learning
Texarkana here! I've been removing runs for the last 3 days .trying to identify my problem before it occurs, I agree and thanks , it's bound to be the cold air
I think so brother
Also back your fluid needle in when you get runs a quarter of a turn till you get the same finish but without the hassle but sometimes your going to get runs it's just part of the process sometimes
Thanks again mate, as usual some bloody awesome advice and tips. Keep them coming!!!! 🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
Thank you brother
Lol painting in new York cold, about 50-55 degrees right now. I think I'll be using the fast reducer/activator
that is correct
Spreading knowledge!!!!
Liked your. Video to the point no bull.
Great information, thank you!
Always remember to show some practical painting
Thanks for the information, Very much appreciated!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Mr Pharraway! Thank you for all the vids and tips .. great inspiration!
I’m painting the cowl cavity of my old 58 Chevy and it’s turn out great but later discovers a small pencil eraser size drip , . I guess it dripped from a corner of the masking tape .
Can I use the razor blade technique and sand with 1500?
But in worst case , after removing I’d like to just blend spot that area.
Now blending I would just add 50 percent reducer to left over paint?
It’s also single stage and metallic.
I’m not really worried about it being weird looking when dry cause it’s in the far side cowl cavity and will be covered with the cowl grille. But I feel like it’s not as perfect knowing there’s a drip ..
I know you’ve probably encountered these before.
What’s you best recommendation without having to redo the whole cowl cavity ?
Thanks again for you time ,
Frank
This my first time painting I want it to look good it's a single stage carribean teal
Most excellent... Just the info I needed...Thanks...
Glad it was helpful!
That video helped me with the flash times, also which reducer to use with temperatures!tks bro, keep the videos comming!
Once again brother!!
Thank you.
Thanks for the tips
No problem!
Great video how many coats of paint should I apply and also primer?
3 coats
good lesson thanks
Always great information, keep up the good work.
Thank You
Isn't this the information that's found in the tech sheets? Why yes. Yes it is. Not sure if orange peel ..or any fruit was mentioned in here.
hey brotha always good info, id like to mention i think you'll agree sometimes too low of air pressure can add to orange peel.so that pressure setting can add to it as well, agree?
Great point!
Very informative video. Well done sir thank you
Awesome Video, Way Thank You,, Please have a Great Rest Your Day / Evening Sir...
Thank you
@@PHARRAWAY I do high end model cars and trucks and wanted to Produce better quality end result & this will definitely help me, you should do more videos. I will watch and learn & subscribe & 10 Thumbs Up for Truly Valuable Content explained by a Pro Painter who can teach details like temp, humidity, spray gun tips and tricks and I Know you have more experience to share & hopefully you grow your channel and do Great, well,, Evening Pharraway...
Brian...
@@freespacejunkremoval Thank you brother I have over 500 videos in my channel and will be adding more thank you for your support
Good clear explanation.
Thank You brother
Thanks for the learning curve... just subscribed.
Great info but one quesion. Is that outdoor temp or body panel temp?
Great video. Do you think your Sata x5500 1.3 cc makes a difference when it comes to orange peel?
Yes it does
I like both kinds of videos brother. These are great, but I love to watch you paint too :)
Thank You GOD BLESS
Love these kind of videos I want more thank you
Thank You more to come
Thank you for more info, have a great new year
Thank You
Orange peel from the cheap spray gun. Guilty. Could use a cut and buff tutorial, have one? I Like your straight up info, keep it up.
Yes I do in my channel I have several videos on cut and buff
Thanks for sharing tips 👍🏽this is really helpful.
anytime brother more to come
Thanks Pharraway 👍🏿
Video was good. I learnt a few things.
nice brother
Great videos keep up the good work 👍👍 Thanks
Thanks
Nice content @pharraway keep'em coming!! 💯
Thank you brother
Great tips. What spray gun for base & clear would you recommend for a small 30 gallon 5 CFM compressor?
The DeVIlbiss FLG 5 with a 1.3
@@PHARRAWAY Thanks!
Few days ago I used slow reducen 50* 60degrees I got 2 runs on my bumper
always have a test panel like an old hood nearby to test your spray before you spray the real piece. blame it on the painter not the paint. the paint only does what you make it do
@@eksine right I was blaming myself lol 😂
Thank you
Thank you for the info
Thank you for explaining on reducers and activators, im planning on painting in my garage, and other than just throwing paint on a car I never thought of these additional supplies that I would need to achieve a great paint job. But how much would you know to add? Im in the Miami area and normal temperature here is between 80-95.
Glad to help
Thank You! I am tiring to spray a base coat with out orange peal. I found it showing up thorough the coats of clear and color. In this case, ALSA chrome, it shows everything from below. I just watched your film on reducers and that maybe part of it. I have a qt. of Medium and the temp. scale on the can say's below 85 degrees. I am just north of El Paso it gets to 85 before noon currently. Do I just start praying at 7 am or go buy more slow reducer? Jeff Stephan
You will need slow reducer
Thx bro, good info help a lot..😎
I sprayed a single stage paint and the data sheet actually told me the dry times between coats. It was 1 hour in my case. Perhaps just read the data sheet?
That's too much dry time 15min tops
Nice video. Thanks
Thanks brother
Can you purposely spray a panel with bad orange peel then show how it's fixed.
Yes just give me some time I have a 66 mustang that I have to finish
Hi Pharraway! Thank you for helping me with your great videos. I am doing my first spray job on a dirt bike frame. I am using Por15 2k Urethane. The can days recoat in 6 hrs but that is for brush. How long do I need to wait when spraying?
30 min
@@PHARRAWAY Thank you for replying to every single question. You're videos are the best because they simplify the process and I'm getting great results.
Good info for diy.
Glad you liked it
Good info 👍, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Information is key 🔑
True brother
First time painter here.. do you add this to the paint? If so what is the ratio? Or are there instructions on the reducers? Im planning on painting my ride coming up and I'm learning alot from your videos, thanks soo much
There in the reducer
I had it wrong and ur video will do me some good thanks I was using a lot of medium I need fast..
keep learning brother never stop
Bien amigo a una pintura automotriz con que la rebajó nomas con reductor o puedo poner otras cosas igual gracias
Thanks this was an awesome video I have often wondered about mixing the different brands reducer, is it the same for hardeners can they be intermixed with different brand also
any time brother
What clear coat would you go with between finish 1 fc720 or tamco 4100? Does the tamco have good longevity?
I will go with Grant 7 for me its much better than tamco go to buycustompaint.com
Can you send me a tutorial how to set up Eastwood p500 and cc500
Will do just give me some time